Interview with Krysten Ritter on Jessica Jones and collaboration

Come on, people. It's time to live it up. That's right. Live it up. Live it up. Come on, people, now. Live it up. Go together now. Live it up. This together. Come on, people, now. Live it up. Boom. I make song of my music. Oh, really? Yes. Exciting. Hi. Hi. This is Rosemary Rodriguez, your host of the director's chair at WePlayRadio.com. For those of you who are turning in for the first time, I'm a filmmaker, TV director, and one of the shows that I directed that was my favorite experience, no bullshit, not because she's sitting right here, is Jessica Jones, the Marvel Netflix series. And I'm, like, beyond excited. Super excited. I swear to God to have Kristen Ritter here. Hi. I'm so excited to be here. I just wanted to hang out with you. Oh, my God. This is the best way. That's if I wanted to do it. Perfect. I get to see you. Oh, my God. It's so awesome because, okay, well, because you're Jessica Jones, that's one thing. But also, what people don't know about you, why I wanted to have you on here is because not only are you a kick-ass actress and a kick-ass human being, but you're a great collaborator. And I wanted to do this show to talk about collaborating, you know, artist to artist, and so I was just really excited because I had a really good time working with you. And I sort of learned from you, and I felt like it was just really, it was a lot of pressure, that job. Yeah. Yeah, I felt a lot of pressure on that job from the first audition. There was always a lot of pressure because, you know, it's a big financial investment for a lot of people. It's a part of a bigger scope. You know, it includes four shows and The Defenders. Mm-hmm. So five shows, and Jessica Jones appears in not only Jessica Jones, but The Defenders. So it was always a lot of pressure. And a lot of fans. And a lot of fans. And a lot of expectations, right? Yeah. Major fan base, Marvel's fan base is huge. Right. And you want to make them happy. And, you know, it's Marvel doing something they have not done before with a female lead. It's a psychological thriller. It's not this big, crazy, you know, testosterone-driven, stunt-heavy show. Right. And additionally, when I read the scripts, they were so amazing. It was so groundbreaking in how this woman was portrayed, never being gender first. It was the first kick-ass, vulnerable, strong, tough, powerful, flawed, complex character that I've seen. And so I put a lot of pressure on myself. I felt pressure, but there was some self-inflicted as well. And then on top of that, there's a lot to shoot every day. Right. You've got to make your days. As you know, television is a grind. You go and go and go, and it's a heavy load. People don't know, like, I think, you know, actors and people in the audience don't necessarily know that when you're number one, we call it number one on the call sheet, and you're the lead of a show, that, and your name, and also when your name, the character's name is the name of the show, chances are you're going to be in almost every scene of the show. Yeah. Because the story is sort of hooked around you and what's going on with you. Yeah. And for Jessica in particular, the story was also told through her POV. Mm-hmm. So I was not only, like, in everything, but I was the entry point for the show. Right. So it was, I mean, I've been the number one on a show before, but it was nothing. It was nothing like this. Well, that's what I was going to ask you. So The Bitch in Apartment 23. Yeah. You were number one. Yeah. That's a totally different show. Network show. Totally. Completely different with our friend James Van Der Beek. Who we love. I love him. I love him. I love James Van Der Beek. Me too. He's heaven. He's such a good guy. He's so positive. We had such a great time on that show. And he has this gorgeous family. Gorgeous family. I know. He's a good guy. I'm very happy for him. Like, ever-expanding gorgeous family. I'm really happy for him. Me too. So what was the difference? How was, did you feel the same amount of pressure on that show? No. It was a very different experience in every way. I think it starts because the roles are so different. Right. And the tone is so different. When you're doing... And the reason why I love doing comedy, I love doing drama as well. I like to switch it up. But I've always loved doing comedy because you're laughing all day. And that translates everywhere. Right. So if you're laughing in a scene and having a great time, chances are that's exactly what's happening in between takes. Right. I know that's probably not the case for everybody. I mean, I hear stories and I'm like, it's like that? But for The Bitch in Apartment 23, it was like that. But if you have great chemistry with your co-stars, then it's easy, right? We had great chemistry. Nanachka Khan, our showrunner, and I, we're just like, we like share a brain or something. There's some kind of chemistry between us that is pretty special. And it was just like kismet. Yeah. We had an amazing open dialogue. I was always like trying to come up with ways to get her to laugh because she's so funny that if you can make her laugh, then it's the real deal. Well, you're pretty cool because that's one of the things about you. Sometimes, you know, look, I'm a guest director and I go around here to there to there. Sometimes you notice that thing. And I want to make this conversation about girls, but you can't help but notice sometimes people are more comfortable with guy directors than female directors. Some people, you know, it's just a different vibe or something. And I felt like from the beginning, we had a great first AD, Betty Ann Fishman, who I think like sort of paved the way a little bit. And also I had gotten in touch with James and said, hey, put in a good word for me, like let her know I'm cool. Well, I had already heard so many great things about you that we like from day one were, you know what I mean? It worked. See, I felt like I had like a champion. I mean, one of the challenges of my job is like people don't really necessarily know, but, you know, I read, I read all of Alias. Like, you know, I read all the scripts. I watch whatever they allow me to watch. Yeah, you would come like having done so much research. I did a lot of research. And so, and I do that everywhere I go, right? So people don't necessarily know that like when I show up for a job, even though that's not my home, it's my home for that moment. Like I am fully in that planet. I put my heart. My soul, like I'm there. So sometimes people don't know that because I'm just a stranger. I always feel like the directors in television is like the aunt who comes at Christmas and like you want her to bring good shit, but then you want to get the fuck out because like. And it's interesting how different personalities sort of handle that because some people come in and like, I'm the boss. No. Listen to me. And then other people come in and they're like unsure, like maybe deferential because it's not their home. And then some people come in like you and own it and they're positive. And they're like, where do I start? How do I fit in? Let's make it fun. Yeah. And but you help that. That's because that's also important to me. And that's how I like to work. I know it was really good. It was just it was so great. And I find I just find, you know, more and more as I've gone through this process, how much I love actors like I just I just do. And that's just grace. That's just like I just love you guys. I love what you do. I can't believe of everyone on set. I can pretty much do anybody's job, not nearly as good as them. I can pretty much do their job. But your job. Like this is hard enough. Doing a podcast is awesome. But knowing that it's on YouTube is a little painful. It's like I'm just a behind the camera kind of person. But the way you guys put yourselves out there is astonishing. I got to say, like, I, I, I am also a behind the camera kind of person. It's weird. Acting is one thing. I don't this to me doing something that's going to that's an interview or any kind of press or talk shows. Things like that are much. More difficult. And it's different. And then acting and having a character and having like this machine set up. And you don't feel like you have a lot of I don't know why, but you don't feel like you have a lot of eyeballs on you when you're doing it. Right. But also you're not you're not. I'm not me. You're not. I'm not playing Kristen Ritter. You're not like I've done your homework and like saying your lines. Right. And like this is like loose and we don't know what we're going to say. And there's a certain vulnerability to it. Yeah. You know, but I like that. I mean, that's fun. And for me, this is as close to being on set as I'm going to be without. Actually being on set. Right. We get to hang out with you for a little while. Right. Totally. Which is fucking cool. So going back to like Jessica Jones. So how did you like how much did you play a part in like deciding what her like costume, what her outfit was going to be or how much did you how much do you feel you had an opportunity to create that character all around? I you know, I'm I'm really fortunate in the experience that I had a lot to say about about how I was going to play her and and what she was going to wear and look like. And feel I had early conversations with Melissa and with SJ, who was our pilot director, as you know, about like SJ had like already like all of this like mood board set up. And she had really like done a lot to establish the look. She did a great job. She really did a great job. She she's like you like she is a great leader, works really well with actors and knows the technical stuff like the full package. Yeah. And so she had a lot of mood boards and the vision. The visuals all already established and she knew what she wanted. So when it came to like choosing the outfit for me, it was about a certain feel and a physicality. And I I'm not really like Jessica. So I needed that armor. I needed that that thing that made me feel like like her, like a badass, like someone that's very powerful. Someone wants to hide from the world, but yet will stand up for herself. And I took a lot of weight. Thank you. But no, I'm not talking about your character. I'm just talking about somebody who's who's like just again, an artist who's very confident and sort of knows how to make decisions and knows what she wants. Yes. I doesn't apologize for sure. For sure. But in terms of my posture, the way that I walk. And so I got you for me. Like it was I built Jessica first, like with doing a lot of research and a lot of prep work and hours and hours with my acting teacher and physical training. And that started to help me find her body and like her weight, meaning like weight, weight on her. Right. And then finding like the right outfit and a walk. Like I usually like start I build my characters. I start to first find their physicality with a walk. And I can do like the Chloe walk. That was the first thing I came up with for Chloe. Yeah. Which was the bitch in apartment 23. Right. And then for Jessica, the walk was really different. And that that's sort of like how I helped find it. Okay. So what was the heroine walk from Jessica from Breaking Bad? Well, that walk like that was like sort of she was sluggish. She was like, you know, she's a little bit through life. You know, she's someone she's such a sarcastic, you know. I loved her. Yeah. I loved her, too. That was an amazing opportunity for me to to get to be on that show because it's the best. Great. I mean, you're only as good as your scene partners. And with Aaron Paul and Bryan Cranston, you have the best on television. Amazing. And obviously David Tennant. And I've got some good ones. I'm lucky. Of course. Of course. What is your do you feel like there's there's a collaboration or an example of a collaboration that you feel like? You can go back because you have done so many movies. Like, yeah, I was looking at your IMDb. I mean, you have done how many movies? I've been around a while. I would say the best the sort of the best collaboration collaborations I've had would be in an Oscar con from Don't Trust the Bee. Jessica Goldberg. I worked with to do this tiny movie called Refuge. The movie was made for like one hundred thousand dollars. I'm really proud of it. I think if there was maybe like five extra dollars to be had, we could have made the movie. Even better. Right. And you don't even have to tell me names. Just like an example of like, yeah, what it was like. Why it was so good. Why it was so great is I got the script originally and we I met first. I work on everything with my acting teacher, who is my biggest collaborator. That's awesome. She's her and I go through everything. But then Jessica and I would sit with the script every day. I'd go to her house. We'd sit at her table for hours and go through it and read the scenes and make sure like, OK, this line maybe doesn't quite fit in my mouth. Because the movie was originally a play. And so it felt playish. Right. And so we were just like we were working really closely on that before we even went to shoot the movie, which was awesome. When you have that with your director and you just. Yeah. It's such a it's such a specific relationship that when it hits, it can be like one of the most special things. I think when it hits, then you have then you're able to like something else happens. Yeah. It's almost like another. Entity. Something else happens. Yeah. That's bigger than both of you. Yeah. That makes sense. I know it makes sense. Totally. I felt that way on Jessica Jones with SJ in the beginning because I relied on her so heavily because I was so nervous. There was so much pressure. And then I just kind of like we were just in it together. And that's how she works, too. You know, I have a lot of scenes where I'm by myself. Right. And don't trust to be like I was really in it with my scene partners. Right. I was with the same people all the time. Right. With Jessica Jones. I was alone a lot. Right. Or maybe like Rachel Taylor didn't work for a week and I was just like by myself. And so I really sort of hung on to SJ and connected with her and was like, OK, I guess that's my constant on set. Right. And then she left. And then you got to like. And then what happened? Adjust to the next guy and the next guy. And then luckily someone like you comes along. And it's it's like it's like it's jarring at first because you're like, oh, my gosh, I'm dealing with a whole different personality. I still need that thing. Right. So it's about it's about getting in there and communicating with someone. And hopefully there's a great open. There's good chemistry and there's an open dialogue. Right. Right. It's always hard. I mean, I always find it hard. Sometimes, you know, television is so difficult for people or, you know, Netflix, streaming, whatever. They don't understand, like that a lot of times we're doing things and then we don't know what's coming ahead. Right. Sometimes the writers don't even know yet what's coming ahead or things evolve and change because, again, this is creative. Right. It's storytelling, but it's not locked in stone. Right. And so that's always a challenge for me. Is that a challenge for you? How do you deal with that? Well, I think with Jessica Jones, I because I was in it so much, I didn't have time to get frustrated by that. Got it. And I sort of Jessica is so informed by her past. That was enough. As long as I understood that and I knew how to respond to everything coming from that place. Then I could handle anything. I think it's when you're unsure when you don't do your backstory work. That's when you're not grounded. So that's why I wanted. That's one of the things I want to ask you, too. When you go into a role, do you often find or more often than not that you have to create your own backstory or not even Jessica Jones apart because she has such great backstory? Yeah. I mean, if for a film, for sure, you know, you can sometimes it's hard for TV. Maybe you find out an episode later. You were an alcoholic and you're like, I wasn't in there. But you have to trust that your face to the audience. I've had to be the character. I've had to be the deliverer of that. And you're like, what? And then I watched their whole head like spin. And I'm just like, oh, God, they didn't know that already. Oh, no. You know, with Breaking Bad, I didn't know what was going to happen. No, right. I knew I knew I was doing just a handful of episodes. I think I I thought I was doing even less than I did. Yeah. So I ended up being a cool run. But I don't I don't think I knew that I was a former junkie. So right. Right. Maybe I did. I feel like I didn't. I really. Because the scene that I auditioned with was my first appearance in the show. It was just, you know, Aaron Paul's character, Jesse, comes to rent my apartment. Right. And that was that's it. That's all. That's all I read. Right. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. That's just the beginning. That's just the beginning. And the director at the time, like. Sat me down. I was like, OK, so this is what's going to come. So you have to be really cool. And and I remember Aaron and I had really lovely chemistry. So when we're doing the scene, I think we're both like lighting up a little too much. We're like giggling or something because we're like having we're enjoying each other so much. And they really like made a point to like bring that down. Right. And bury that, which is which is probably why our chemistry was came across so well because it was all. Yeah, it was all under the sun. All shoved down deep. Which is cool. Which is cool. Which is which makes it more real. That's the best thing. Like when when stuff is there, but shoved down. Deep. It's the best. You see it. I know. Because that's what we do. Yeah. Look, I just told you like before we came on, I just told you about my sister. Yeah. And like she just ended up in ICU and like the whole family's there and we're all standing around and our sister is dying. And that's what the doctors are telling us. And yet none of us are talking about that. None of us are crying. None of us are wearing that. It becomes about this other weird dialogue and other things happening. Mm hmm. But underneath. But underneath, we're all freaking out. Right. And that's what you're talking about. That makes it more real. That's real. That's what that's how people are. That's how we are. And that's I think the difference. You know, when you see like a great performance, it's somebody who's like knows that isn't pushing, isn't like, you know, hamming it up. Right. Right. So interesting. So working with your acting, you have an acting coach that you've worked with for a long time. A really long time. But what's cool about that. OK, you can put in a plug for her. It is Marjorie Ballantyne. She's amazing. But I've been working with her since 2005. That's awesome. Back when I was so poor, I had to crash in her house. I love that. That's so cool. Yeah. What happened was I was a New Yorker. You know, I came to L.A. to do a pilot. No, I came to do like groundwork. And then I was like, enough. I'm not an L.A. person. I got to go back to New York. And I had a really bad living situation as well. I think like I was living with some like people that were into drugs. Yeah. In a bad living situation. I didn't know these people. Where were you? Just like in Los Feliz. OK, got it. And so I and I also I didn't I wasn't digging L.A. I thought it was really cool at first. I was like, oh, I like this isolation. I'll just be at home. But then like you're like you drive to these auditions. You just audition and you get back in your car and you're alone. And after three months, like I was like, I'm used to like seeing all these people on the street and having adventures every day. Even if you don't try. Right. So I was like, that's it. I'm out. Of course, you book a plane ticket. You book a job. Right. So I booked a pilot and I finally told Marjorie what was going on. And she was like, what? She's like, get over here. I have a bed. Get on this bed. Exactly. There again. Exactly. And all we did was like, like girls like talk about acting and work on my auditions. That's awesome. Yeah. I love that because because then that makes it I didn't even know about her. But it makes it even more amazing to me that you're so open with directors. That's so cool. You're just used to collaborating. I and you know what? I always have been. And even when I'm writing something. I've written a few screenplays. I made a movie. I've written a couple of pilots that have gotten picked, gotten, you know, are sold or whatever, but have not been made, which that's how it goes. How it goes. But I love writing with people. Well, the movie that you wrote was Search Party. I know. No, no, no. Search Party is coming out. Right. Life Happens is the one that you co-wrote. Yes. With a friend of yours or did somebody put you guys together? No. At the time we were actresses. I was like just hustling, doing pilot season. I was still living in New York and she's like, come stay at my house. And we were just so hungry. We were just like, right. We wrote three features together. So have you, have you, okay. What happened to the other two? We, you know, it just kind of like moved on. I've gotten busy. Gotten real busy. So it's about, you know, time management. Do you find like that part of you? Do you still have the desire to write or no? Yeah. I love writing. And I also, you know, I have my company, Silent Machine. Right. So I get to sort of. I feel that creative side of myself when I'm busy doing Jessica Jones or something else. Coming up with ideas, collaborating with writers. I always feel like not only do things get done so much faster, but you, you get better. I agree. I remember like I would write a scene and send it to my, my writing partner and she would make it better. And then I'd get, because of something she just wrote, I had a couple ideas for a joke and, and things would get done faster. And I always felt like two heads are better than one. So I've always been really, I'm, I've always been really into collaborating, whether it's with my costume designers, whether it's with writers, whether it's with directors, with the showrunners of my show. Yeah. So that's how, how I work. And I've been fortunate to work with people who encourage that. Right. What's an example of like something, again, you don't have to name names, but like something where it just didn't work. And why? Like why made it? Like, is there a job that you're ever just like, I can't wait for this fucking job to be over? And again, you don't have to say which one, but like a movie, a TV, anything. Yeah. I definitely, I have felt for sure that I have felt like there, you know, sometimes in life there are people that you just don't really get along with. Yeah. And then there are some people that instant love fest and that's all there is to it. Right. And so when that happens and you're stuck, it's, it's a bummer. So how do you do your best work under those circumstances? I kind of just like put my head down and kind of. Kind of keep going and just like kind of compartmentalize. Okay. I just focus on what I have to do. I try not to get sucked into it. Got it. Got it. It's easier in TV because you know, it's temporary. Yeah. In a movie, has that happened in a movie or just like, okay, or there's a co-star. You're just like, I've just got to get through this movie. Yeah. Or like, or a play. It could be anything. Cause that's, I'm sensitive. I think when I was younger, if I didn't get along with somebody or the collaboration wasn't there, I would get upset and like want to fix it. Like, what can we do? Like, and now it's like, well, it's the same. You are in charge of your own experience. Right. So you can always make the best of things. Right. So I guess, I guess now I'm older and I'm more experienced. That's, that's what I try to do. I think sometimes you're, I think that sometimes having a level of confidence. Yeah. Experience gives you a certain openness to just like let people be. Yeah. And you can still focus on yourself. Yeah. Do the best you can. And confidence only comes with, from time. And, and, and being prepared. I think so. I think being prepared. Being prepared is it. I feel the most confident and the most free when I have done all of my work. Me too. Because then I can show up and like, let it all go. And be totally free. Yeah. Like I don't need to improvise. Yeah, exactly. But I know, isn't that funny? If I'm not prepared, I won't be able to sleep. Like I'm not, I can't procrastinate. Right. Even as a little kid, I was never, I couldn't go outside and play until my homework was done. That's probably a big part of the reason why you're successful. Besides being beautiful and super talented. Yeah. And being so talented, that discipline. It is, it is 100%. Because there are quote unquote beautiful, talented people everywhere. Right. People more talented than I am. People more beautiful than I am. But I work really hard. Right. And I think that, that definitely gives you a bit of an edge. That's good. I feel that way too. I feel like I work all the time. So sometimes I work so much. So much that it's too much. That is too much. And I'm finally like figuring that out. I'm trying to let go. Yeah. It's a, yeah. Yeah. The world doesn't stop if you like. Say no to something. That's, I guess that's the truth. I know. Which I'm just figuring it out. Well, I think. It's about balance. It's also when you have so many projects going on at a time. Like I find myself with a lot of things. And then like I, you know, for my creative like life. For my, to keep myself like fulfilled. Like I have to go. You like get a lot of different things. Okay, got it. And so the movie becomes like my baby. And the first movie was very difficult. Because everything was like so big. And it's like, it's just, I took it to heart. Like I was so sensitive. And now I'm just too busy to like only be focused on that. So I kind of feel like it's forced me to step back. And let go in a way where, okay. Universe is going to take care of it. Yeah. It's going to happen. It's on its own time. Yeah. I can just focus. And that's the gift of directing television. Is like when I'm on that planet. Jessica Jones. I'm on that planet. A thousand percent. Nothing else. It's amazing to be able to have like that much variety. It's awesome. It is awesome. It's my favorite thing. That's why I started my company. It's why like, I like to do this. I like to do this. And even when I was doing Don't Trust the Bee, I was producing a pilot at MTV. Like I always like to have my hands in a little bit of everything. I know. That's good. And also I just, I think that helps. Anyway, I think that helps me to let go. Right. Of the results of what's going to happen with them. Right. Do you know what I mean? Because you put your heart in everything. But then you can keep your heart in it, but not feel like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I'm trying. I don't know what I'm trying to say. You know what I'm trying to say. Just sort of to feel free. Yeah. To play and not bear down so heavy. Right. I'm like, this is it. This has to be like, and it ends up being great. It ends up being great. Because you're more relaxed in it. Yeah. Does that make sense? Totally. Does that happen to you? Yeah. You know, Tim on Jessica Jones had said to me like halfway through, because I was like, this has to be great. Like I have to be great. We can't like shoot anymore today because I have to learn these four pages tomorrow. That's a big scene. He's like, Kristen. Kristen, you got this. Like you can, you don't need, you'll be fine. And I'm like, no, no, no. What are you talking about? I have to do this. I have to do this. I have to do this. And then it ends up being fine. I know. It ends up being fine. Because you do know it. You do know it. And I love Tim. And you got to let, and the magic does kick in. It does kick in. I know. It's just sometimes, I don't know what it is about like maybe just being a human being and an artist on top of it. It's just this idea of like doubting sometimes. And sometimes I'm like, I don't want to have to use that. I don't want that to fuel me. I don't want the doubt of like it's going to work this time. Is it going to be there this time? I have so much proof that it's there. And yet sometimes I go into things and I can't sleep well at night. Or I just like, I just have this anxiety. Like what if this time it doesn't work? Yeah. But I think that kind of, that's good. You do? I think it's good to be nervous. I think it's good to put, to feel those kind of stakes. Because that means you're not complacent. You know what I mean? Like you're, you're still like. You put a lot of pressure on yourself because you're, because you want to be great. Because you want to be great and you love it. I know, but I'm tired. I know, I'm tired too. I'm so tired. I'm so tired. Sometimes I'm just like, can I just get a good night's sleep, please? I would, I know, I know. Right now I'm like, well, tomorrow I have to set my alarm. But, and these days where I don't have to set my alarm, like it's like the most exciting thing. It is. Like, wait a minute, I don't have a meeting until the afternoon. That means I don't have to set my alarm. I can wake up organically. Oh my gosh. Oh, it's the best. We get up so early. We get up so early. When we work, we get up at like 4.30, 5 o'clock. When we work, we work for 80 hours a week. We are really crazy. It's a lot. Our unions have to do something about this. It is too many hours. I think that for television, especially when, because it's, because it's, it's not a sprint. Like with a movie, I've found with a movie, you can kind of just like get by. You got to have a Diet Coke, have a Diet Coke. You need some Advil, take an Advil. With television, you have to take such good care of yourself to be able to endure, endure the schedule. Right. I think, I think it's, I think the hours are a little too long in television when, when a 17 hour day is not that unusual. Right. That's a little too long. I think I would, I would love for them to do 12 hour days. 12 hour days. 12 hour days. And for me, that would be 14 hour days because you, actors come in early. I try to do 12 hour days. That is awesome. For the most part. I mean, most of the time, that's, that's what we did. When I say that to people outside of the industry, like to my family, I'm like, you know, if we could just do like 14 hour days, they're like, what? Like my dad, my boyfriend's dad, they're always like, what are you talking about? Well, I hit a wall. I hit a wall at 12 hours. I don't even have to ask like the first AD, like what time it is. I just know I'm at 12 and it's time. Yeah. Time to wrap it up. It's like, it's all going to be good. And I stay on that clock like all day long. How much time? Where are we at? Where are we at? Just because I know it just feel like it keeps everyone's energy going if you're just aware. Yeah. And keep it moving. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, keep it moving. Well, television does keep moving. You know, I think that there is a misconception that there's a lot of sitting around. I mean, I guess there is not if you're Jessica Jones. There was like a joke with, I don't know if you remember Nick, our adorable first team PA. I would like go to sit down in my chair. Okay. They're ready for you to do something else. And I'm like, okay. I don't even know why you bother sitting down. But that said, it was good for the part. Because like, I was like so immersed in it. Right. I knew I could handle anything. How did you relate? Did you relate to her and all her character, her trauma, anything that she's been through? Like, did you relate to her as a broken? No. I mean, I could tap into like that vulnerability. I think that she has in that toughness that she has. But I just spent a lot of time like trying to figure out who she was. I would like be alone in my apartment with the scripts. I had to move to New York to do the show. And I am somebody who has a lot of girlfriends. I have a lot of girlfriends. And I see them a lot. So being in New York completely alone and isolated and in an apartment that doesn't have my furnishing and being on set, it all helped. It all helped like find that, that just isolation. She didn't have anybody. I didn't have anybody. I didn't have my friends there. I didn't have like my cast members there every day. Right. So just kind of just like all, it was one of the craziest experiences of my life. But the most like creative. Yeah. Like creatively fulfilling because that was like full immersion. And I've never worked that hard on anything. Right. Like really building a character from the boots up. I know. It was great. And did you have any idea? I mean, I think everyone was a little surprised at how much people loved. I mean. I'm sure. You're all having fun. I'm sure everyone was. I'm sure people are surprised. But I am. I'm really stoked about it. It's really exciting. Listen, I knew that we were making something good. I knew. I was working my ass off. And I've always said to everyone I've ever met, younger girls, my sister, hard work pays off. Right. Because I've believed that up until Jessica Jones. I believed that. Right. Because I am from a farm in Pennsylvania. And at one point I had 60 bucks in my bank account. Right. I had a girlfriend show up with Indian food and I know the hard work pays off. And doing Jessica Jones took it to another level. And I was like, this is going to. Right. This is going to be good. No one, all of these people from our grips, our sound department, our craft services, everybody. Everybody is sludging and crushing it and bringing their A game. I was like, this is going to be really good. And when I saw the final product, I cried. I saw it with Jeff Love at his office. And I'm pretty sure that he didn't know what was happening. So I had my publicist with me and it ended. And I was just like stuck. I was like, oh my God. And he was like, he doesn't know what to do with me. You know what I mean? He's also stuck. He's seen it how many times. And he's a man. And he's a dude. He doesn't know how this actress is going to respond. So and I was just like, oh my God, thank God it's good. And he was like, oh, sigh of relief. Yeah. And once they like sprinkled that fairy dust on there and the special effects and the music and oh God, the performances from the whole cast. I was just so blown away. I was, I really was happy with the script that I got. I thought your episode was fantastic. Thank you so much. I just loved it. Episode 10. Episode 10. I loved it because I felt like, again, every time you go into. You got a good one. I got a good one. But every time I go into any episode, right. Again, I always do my homework and I looked at what the actors have done and I'm tracking the characters. And then I'm like, well, what if there's, I'm always hoping and thirsty for a script that will show me something different in the character. Right. And so I felt so happy with the opportunity to see you, you know, Jessica Jones sort of so vulnerable, even wearing a dress and just like a different side to her. And, and, and to sort of be able to have that moment was like such a gift. Yeah. To me, that was such a gift. And we got to do that fun stuff with Hope. Oh my God. And the nooses. Oh my God. I got to go up on the, on the, on the wire thing, like pulling yourself. Oh my God. That was a big episode. But that stuff with Carrie Ann Moss and, and Wendy. Oh yeah. Hogarth and Wendy. Crazy. I mean, that scene was, was very effective when I watched it. It was so intense. I know. I thought Carrie Ann Moss did really great work in that episode. We did a great work and Robin was great. I mean, I love all the actors. Yeah. Robin was really great in that too. Robin was great. And let's just say Christopher Place, our stunt person. Love me some Christopher Place, the man who taught me how to throw a punch. He was great though. Yeah. It just, it just, again, great collaboration. Really great. I really enjoyed the, the stunt team because I've never done stunts before. I've never. I've never had to do anything like that. And they wouldn't, he would kind of come over and just be like, Kristen, make sure you keep your foot like this. Yeah. So you look strong. I'm like, okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He would like, he would look out for me. So I would look tough. Yeah. Which is, that's what you want him to do. Yeah. And I don't want him to like yell across the room like, Kristen, you look like a wimp. I know. Come in, like, just tell me and help me. That would be bad. That would be like. It's fine. I can handle it. I know, but it wouldn't be good. So, so, okay. So the screenplay that you did, what was it like? Because you also starred in that movie, Life Happens. Yeah. So how was it writing, like creating, you just said, Jessica Jones, you created that character from the boot, like from the boots up, right? Yeah. So how was it? I mean, because the scripts were good. I didn't do, I have to give credit to Mel. You know what I mean? No, no, of course. But in terms of like how she feels and how she looks and all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll take credit for that. No, no, no. Melissa Rosenberg rocks it out. She's amazing. She rocks it out. She's amazing. But when you created this character for Life Happens, how was it? Creating that character yourself completely and then playing the character? Well, interestingly enough, that was not the character that we created for me. Oh. I was going to play the other role. Oh. That Kate Bosworth played. And then we went through like, here's the thing, like that took, that was a long time. And I'm curious to hear how the process of your movie was. We first had like this great little independent, edgy, raunchy script. And it got a lot of attention in town. We started getting a lot of fancy phone calls, fancy meetings, all of that. We switched agents. Like it was a moment. Yeah. And then we set it up with like a big producer to do like big studio style. So we did that first. Then it did not get greenlit. And then we retooled it with the television side of this fancy producer and took it out to ABC. And changed the name and all of that. But same concept. For a series. For a series. For a TV movie. Yeah. For a TV, for a series. Totally changed. Got it. And then that looks good. Also did not get greenlit. So then we were like, you know, why don't we just go back to like, before it was a TV version. Back to the raunchy version. Before it was a studio film version. Let's just do like the thing that it was. And it wasn't like the same exact draft. Of course, we had learned so much and done so much development. The script got better. But we went back to what we started with. And raised money. And WME, our agent, helped us find the dough. And we did. We put it together with actors that we knew. We were so scrappy. I called up like Kristen Johnson, who's amazing and so funny. Like, will you play this part? Yes. Justin Kirk, will you play this part? Yes. Jason Bigg, will you play this part? Yes. It just went on like that. Right. And when Kate Bosworth read the script, we brought her in as a collaborator to help, you know, sell the movie on her name. And the combined, you know, batch of names. And she wanted to play the Dina role. So we're like, okay. Just like that? Just like that. And then, you know, there came a time we kept doing rewrites. And then when we got to filming, I mean, I just took the script as if I didn't write it. And went to my acting teacher and we worked on it and broke it down like that. So that was, oh, that's cool. I was able to sort of take the hat off. Got it, got it. Well, the first movie that I made was very autobiographical. Uh-huh. So, and it was about a dark part of my life. Like drug addiction, craziness. Uh-huh. Homeless, like really insane. And so, sometimes people would ask, like, what's your favorite movie? What's your favorite movie? What's your favorite movie? What's your favorite movie? And they would ask me, like, how hard was that? And it was like, it wasn't, because I was being a director. I wasn't reliving my life. Right. Like, I had a script that I spent years writing. And it was actors doing it. Like, it was. It takes on a life of its own. Yeah, and you kind of separate yourself from what this role to that role. And it just happens naturally. Yeah. But how long was that process? Four years. Four years. Yeah. Well, that's quick. For me, it takes me fucking way longer. But four years. Like, really depressing. Four years for, like, a 26-year-old who's like, ah. I don't know. I know. That's where we start. I don't know. I think the first movie took me about eight years to get it made. And then we were at Sundance in 2001. Yeah. And then I've been in festivals with this movie now for the past year. Yeah. And it's still winding up its festival route. So, and I shot it about two years ago. So, yeah, that's like a lot of years. Yeah, it definitely, like, is a chunk of time that you spend with a movie. It took me, like, 12 years to get it made. Yeah. Which is why then I got super into television. I know. For Don't Trust the Bee, I was like, when I was doing Life Happens, I was like, I just want to do cool indies like this. And then I had such a great experience with Don't Trust the Bee. Like, the pace, like, you do a pilot and then it's going to get on the air. Hopefully. Usually it doesn't. Yeah. And then it's just like a schedule. It's definitely more about instant gratification. Yeah, it is. And for me as a director, too, I'm sure as an actor, it's like, I get on set. At least I have time on set with actors doing what I love and with cameras. And, you know, like, I get to do it. Yeah. I get to play. Yeah. And, God, I've got to get it down to four years, though. That's my new goal. Totally. Four years. Four years. And maybe less. And maybe less. That's true. Why not think big, right? I'm like, oh, my God. But going back to, like, your preparation and stuff and how disciplined you are, is there anything that you do, like, when you're preparing, just on a daily basis that helps you get through the day? Or does all the shit that you do really come in between jobs? For, like, a specific? For a specific role? Yeah. Or just for a role or just in life, just to keep yourself centered? Or what do you do? Like, what kind of, how does your routine vary when you're working versus when you're not working? Yeah. So, and there's different kinds of working. Obviously, if I'm on set, if I'm on a movie, that's it. Right. And I'll try to, like, balance what I can with, like, my production stuff and answer emails that I can and think about it on weekends and do, like, a weekly call or something. But when you're doing something like Jessica, like, maybe you can't even do that. I know. Because it's so hardcore. I can't either, by the way. Yeah, I mean, and that was hard for me to accept at first because I've always been able to, like, handle everything and then all of a sudden I can't. I'm like, why? Is it me? Right. Oh, it's okay. I just have to, like, and if you're okay with it, then that's one less thing to worry about. Well, that's what I'm saying. Before, that's what I was saying. Like, it's almost, like, forces you to let go. Yeah. In a good way. Yeah. And I've actually, like, read interviews with some actresses that I love who, I think it was Elizabeth. Elizabeth Banks, I hate to paraphrase her and butcher it, but she said something like when she's acting, then it's like 12 hours a day where nobody can reach her. Which is good. It's like vacation. Right. And it's like being in school. Like, you're like, oh, I'm in school now. I always think it's like being, like, in front of the slot machine or the casino or something. Like, nothing exists except that. Totally. I love a slot machine. I just went to Vegas recently because I usually win at slot machines. And I, like, how'd you do? No, it wasn't Vegas. Where did we go? We went to Joshua. We were trading on the way back. We stopped at Morongo. Oh, shit. I know that place. It was dark. Nasty. Go ahead. It was dark. And I lost, like, 60 bucks in 10 minutes on, like, penny slots. Just one more time. One more time. One more time. Like, I gotta go. I gotta go. We just did that, too, in New Mexico. And then we went through the airport. We connected in Las Vegas. So, you know, all the slot machines were Las Vegas. That's probably why I just said that analogy. Well, because there's, like, urban myth that, oh, the person in the airport, they lost it all in Vegas, then went to the airport and won $4 million. And so that urban myth, like. I know. I was wondering how many people actually missed the plane. Oh, God. It's pretty sad. But we actually won. We actually won. Oh, good. I always win. But I always, I just equate it. I think because my dad was a bookie. Oh, really? And so, like, going to the track is the same thing. Oh, yeah. We talked about this. Because remember, I would get lottery tickets for the crew. You told me. You had scratch tickets. Yeah. So I always equate. For me, it's like when you're planted somewhere and nothing else matters. Basically, it's like what I really get to let go of is all my bullshit. Yeah. All my fear, my anxiety, my stress. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just go be, like, whoever. Yeah. I always think that I love being on set. I love it more than anything. I feel like I'm very, I feel very alive. Me too. I'm kind of joking around. Like, I have a really good time. I know. Me too. It's the best. I know. Being on set is the best. It is. But then there's different parts of working. Because then, like, you have to promote things. I know. Which is, like, a whole other muscle. Right. And then now, like, I'm doing, like, I'm reading a lot of scripts and taking a lot of meetings, which is a totally different muscle. Do you enjoy that part? I don't enjoy that part so much. I think, well, I have right now because, you know, the show is kind of doing well. So it's not a terrible time to go take meetings. No, no. You're getting good shit now, right? Yeah. This shit has, like, gone up a notch, right? Yeah. So you're getting the scripts that are actually good. Yeah. Well, you should be. It's, you know, the bar is high. I will say that after Jessica Jones. Right. But, yeah. So how do you go about then making the next decision to what you want to do next? I mean, we know Jessica Jones is going to come back for season two. Yeah. And I'm going to also do The Defenders. But do you feel the pressure of I want to make this? You know, in our careers, we're both successful in our careers. So people don't necessarily understand that you're just happy doing what you're doing. But, like, I want more. Yeah. I always want more because more means more creative opportunities. Right. And to, like, have more opportunities to tell stories from our heart. Right. Right. And more creative control. Right. Over the material that we're going to do. And so do you feel, like, pressure about what your next move will be? Yeah, I do. Because you have people being like, oh, you can't do a bad movie on your hiatus. And you're like, oh, because I like to act. I like to work. Yeah. So that's scary. Also, I think, you know. People meaning? I haven't, you know, like people in the. Like friends? No, no, no. Agents, managers. Those kind of people. Yeah. Got it, got it. And who knows what they. You never know. Nobody knows what that means. Nobody knows. I know, I know. Okay, go ahead. For me, I want, you know, it's got to be good. It's got to have a message. I like to play strong women. And I like to have great scenes with another actor. And it could be a big movie. It could be a little movie. It could be a play. It doesn't really matter where you find it. It's really about. It's about the script. Okay, so that's good. Yeah. I mean, so that takes a lot of pressure. Because I don't know. I mean, for me, I'm like, the pressure in my mind is always. Okay. I want to direct the next James Bond movie. Okay. Like, I literally go, like, that's where I'm trying to get to. Yeah. I'm happy to do other things in between. Right. That's where I'm like, that's the bar I've, like, set for myself. You shouldn't put it on your refrigerator. I'm like, I'm putting it out to the universe on my podcast. Totally. Rosemary Rodriguez. The next Bond movie. But do you do. With a female Bond. Exactly. No, of course. With. Starring Christian Ritter. Yeah. You heard it here. But do you. Do you put that pressure on yourself? Are you really. Are you really just like, I just want to find work that I want to do. Right now, I want to find work that I want to do because. Right. Because I'm. Because I'm beat up. I'm tired, you know. Right now, I got to find, like, a balance. I got to take care of myself. I have to prepare for. For what's next. Physically. Meaning working out. Yeah. Working out. And just getting my. My. My immune system up to where it needs to be. Which takes a lot of discipline and time. Yeah. And get it like. And just to have also a little downtime for myself. So if I go to work, it's going to be. It has to be. It has to be really worth it. And really great. I think. I think the other thing. It's not. I worked for almost a year straight. You know what I mean? No, I get it. That's a long time. Without a break. Without a break. I know. It's a long time. So, you know, it's good to, like, take a break when you can. Right. Again, because. Okay. Other people might say, oh, well, a year. Big deal. It's a year of, like, 17 hour days. 16 hour days. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, of course, anybody would say, like, oh, you worked for a year. Between 60 and 80 hours a week. And you have no friends. And you have no life. And. Look what's going to happen when you're in season seven of Jessica Jones. Yeah. I'll be. I'll be half broken. Oh, my God. But, you know, I think the important thing for me is to. I put a lot out. I have to put stuff back in. Right. Because I don't think you could be a great artist if you don't have anything to say. If your experiences are only on set. Or they're only at, like, talk shows. And. And events. Right. I want to, like. I've been reading books. I need to read books. Which I don't do. You're a big book reader. And I didn't read a single book when I was shooting. Right. So, this is, like, me getting some time back. And what else do you do besides read books? Well, right now, I'm going to Pilates and to yoga. Nice. Which is awesome. Nice. And when I say now, I mean, like, for the past two weeks. Yeah, no. But that's okay. Yeah. And just having, like, a little bit of a staycation. Mm-hmm. And I've. So, what do you do? What's for fun? Like, what's really fun? I really like knitting. You do? Yep. I like knitting. I mean, honestly, like, a perfect day for me right now would be, like, sleeping in, reading my book when I wake up. Because I like to read first thing. While I'm still, like. Yeah, yeah. Cozy in my jammies. Nice. And then go to, like, a great Pilates class or something. Or a yoga class with my girlfriends. And then go to the spa. Like, the Korean spa in L.A. Mm-hmm. Do you ever go to those? No. In New York, I go on 96th Street to this Chinese bar. It's probably a similar thing. But they're very, very inexpensive. Yeah. And you go and you soak and you sweat. And it's not expensive at all. It's not even, like, that luxurious. Mm-hmm. You just, like. It's just really about taking time for yourself. Well, that's awesome. I mean, the final thing that I wanted to talk about. Because I know, you know, our jobs make us go on the road. And you talked about being in New York. Yeah. I'm a New Yorker. I'm a New York director. But I'm, you know, feel that my home is in L.A. And I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. I travel. Last year, I was in Pittsburgh for a couple months. This summer, I'll be in Atlanta. Like, you're all over the place. And something, I think, that makes it difficult is the fact that we're away from our loved ones. Right. Like, so much. Yeah. And sometimes, you know, that might affect the collaboration of other people. Because I just like to feel that my person, like, my husband, is, like, there. And, like, my cheerleader at the end of the day. And he's great. Even if it's just on the phone. Yeah. Like, it helps me to, like, get rid of all the shit. And then go in, like, starting fresh the next day. Yeah. That's. You need support. You have to have support. Our jobs are crazy in that way. Getting a job means leaving home. Right. 99% of the time. I mean, really. What shoots in Los Angeles? I know. I don't. I mean, I saw a movie they sent me a couple days ago. And I hadn't even read it yet. And saw that it shoots in LA. And I was like, I'll take the meeting. You know, that's an exaggeration. No, but I feel that way. But it never. It never really happened. It never really happens. So, taking a job means leaving home. And living in hotels. And getting out of a routine. And I find, like, now as I get older, I really like having a routine. So, that's definitely an adjustment. But having, like, having either your significant other. For me, it's my dog. Mikey. Mikey. I'm just going to show him off. Mikey. Hi, Mike. Mikey's so cute. Hi, Mikey. And I take him, as you know. Mikey was sick during. In our episode. Remember? He got sick twice in New York. He was like, where did you take me, lady? We went to the moon. We got on a spaceship. And he went to the moon. And now I'm in a puffy coat. And I had to put these little, like, balloons on his feet. Because we went outside. And I didn't know this. Right. And the salt that he put on the sidewalks. I take Mikey out. And all of a sudden, he starts screaming like I've never heard anything. And I pick him up. And I try to wipe it off. I take him upstairs. Just wipe off his feet. It was like burning his paws? It's the salt. It was burning his little paws. So, then I had to put these balloons on his paws. Because he was, like, miserable. And then. He's like, get me on that spaceship again, please. Yeah, let's go back on the spaceship. And then there was an accident when I was working. Somebody opened a door. And his little paw was under there. So, he had, like, a little cut on his paw. Oh, my God. And, of course, I was working when it happened. I'm like, I'm sorry. What happened? Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. But he's all good now. But he was good. He got better. He got better in our episode. He's home in L.A. And he's actually gained a few LBs. That's good. Yeah. I'm like. I picked him up. I'm like, what happened to you? Yeah. Oh, my God. All right. Well, we have just a few minutes left. So, tell me, before we go, what your company, Silent Machine? Yeah. What kind of stuff are you trying to do? Are you trying to do movies and TV? Mostly TV. Because that's just. We have one movie in development. Okay. Which is based on a book that a girlfriend of mine found. And it's set in Nashville. A country music scene. Which is something I love. People don't know this. But I'm from a farm. So, I, like, grew up with country music. I am, like, country all the way. Nice. Nice. Nice. And so, a lot of TV stuff, I try to work with a lot of women. I think we have one or two guys in there. But mostly, our slate of writers is all women. They're in the back of your mind. Yeah. And they're, like, ones that I'm really comfortable with. Like, I don't know. I could, like. They're guys that you can still, like, hang out with your pajamas and eat ice cream. They're guys that get it. Yeah. Guys that get it. They get me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is a thing. I'm not everybody's cup of tea. And your family must be super proud of you, right? Yeah. You know, I think I'm in the paper a lot. You are. In the little small town that I'm from. But you're in magazines a lot. Right. And I'm in real magazines. But I mean. Killer, like, photo shoots. Thank you. Can I just say that? Thanks. Some of the stuff you have on and what your look is, like, amazing. Yeah. It's fun. It's fun to change it up. It's fun, right? Yeah. Do you feel like when you're doing that, that you're playing a character of Kristen Ritter versus, like, Kristen Ritter? Or is that just, like. Is it, like, awesome? Yeah. I mean, it's definitely not, like. Oh, that's me. And my cat's how I look. When I go to the grocery store. I don't see you like that. No, no, no. And nobody should. I wear, like, my boots that I've been wearing for 10 years and black jeans. And that's it. But it's fun. It's fun to get dolled up. Also, because, like, my makeup artist is my best friend. And my stylist is my best friend. So I have, like, this great luxury. Every time I have to go to work for one of those things, I'm with my best friends. Right, right. Which is awesome. Which is awesome. Which is awesome. And how is it when you go and do, like, the Comic Con? How is that? How is that? You know, Comic Cons are so new to me. Obviously, I've never done anything in the genre before. But it's so rad. I mean, it blows my mind how getting that fan reaction face-to-face. Like, how affected people are by Jessica Jones. Right. And the message and how she doesn't let trauma define her. Like, that's really resonated with a lot of people. Yeah. Women especially. Yeah. And so I've really appreciated having that interaction. I've only been to a couple of them. Right. But I was like, this is awesome. I'm out there. I'm walking the floor. I'm looking at the artwork. No, it's cool. I mean, I think people that have so much enthusiasm, it's like I decided only because of Jessica Jones, I decided, okay, I'm going to get on Twitter now. Yeah. Oh, really? You're new to Twitter? Totally new. Yeah. And just did it basically and planned it because I'm like, okay, start streaming. Have you felt a difference since Jessica Jones came out in terms of meetings and opportunities or conversations? Um, I'm not sure, actually. I mean, I just got an episode of The Walking Dead. Oh, I don't know if that influenced or not. But basically, I came from an actor, Jeffrey Dean Morgan on The Good Wife, who's like playing this badass character on Walking Dead, like next season. He just came on this season, the end of the season. And like he put in a good word for me with the, you know, producer there, but I'm sure it must help. I don't really know concrete ways. But what I do like about the Twitter thing is like, there's things I don't like about it. What I did like about it, like I planned it so that I knew it started streaming Thursday. Okay, episode 10 will be sometime Saturday and Sunday. Yeah. So I'm going to hit it hard over the weekend and get on. And what I didn't know was that I was going to connect with people who actually notice shots. Yep. They notice things like they're really in it. The people do. They notice everything. And sometimes people are finding things that I didn't even realize at the time. It is amazing. It's amazing. And it's also because we work so hard with so many people and everyone's always on to the next. The next, the next, whether it's the next episode. Sometimes they forget to just say, hey, good job or thanks or whatever. They, I don't hear feedback. Right. And so while I'm like, wow, this woman in like Ohio or whoever is like noticing that shot or that performance. I totally agree. Or they get that there's a director involved in it at all. Right. You know what I mean? You're just like, that's so cool. Like, I really, I really appreciate that so much. Yeah. We got really lucky. Obviously, like the work has paid off. And also, you know, the critics got behind the show, which is amazing. I think without them, the show wouldn't be as big as it is because they're the ones that are watching everything. There are so many shows now and they're the ones that are being like, these are the ones to watch. And so I'm really grateful to the critics, also to our fan base. And I feel like we just came out at a really great time in terms of the conversations that have been happening around women and inequality and the things we want to see in female protagonists and the rape culture. We just really... And also to take these superheroes and like, make them so different than the movies. Oh, yeah. To really focus on like being on the ground and in the world, like real characters. I mean, I feel like Jessica Jones is the most character driven thing that Marvel has done because it's slow at times. It's quiet at times. It is just Jessica Jones. I mean, it's 13 hours of Jessica Jones. Right, right. Which is awesome. I'm so glad that they did that. I mean, I knew the scripts were great. From the second I read them, there is no other part I would want to play on television. Well, can I just tell you honestly, from the bottom of my heart, I'm super fucking happy for you. I'm super fucking happy for you. You really deserve like all the success. I just loved working with you. I love that you were like, I'll come down and look, social media has kept us in touch. Yeah. That's fucking brilliant. Totally. I mean, I love it. It can be a little distracting. Oh, my God. I gotta put it down. Me too. It's like, it's like crack. I know. So distracting. I know. I had to turn it off. I had to turn it off on my iPad because it was starting to like bleed into my iPad, which I only, that's how I read my scripts. Right. On planes, especially. Me too. I start reading something and get like, oh, you got a new text message or something. You gotta turn that shit off. You're like off. I don't get notifications from any of my social medias. That's good. I only get like text messages. Well, I'm glad that you're, that we can stay in touch like this. I know, me too. It means a lot. So, okay. So you're in this movie search party that's coming out, I think in May. Is it? I think so. I don't know. Okay. I think in May. And we'll look for you season two. Is there, do you want to tell listeners anywhere else or anything else they should be looking for or where to find you or whatever? Yeah. Well, you can find me at Pilates. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. I'm going to be in Jessica Jones too and the Defenders. I'm not allowed to talk about when or all of that, but. We're looking forward to it though. We are definitely looking forward to it. Big shit's popping. Big shit is popping. Oh my God. In April Fools. There was like a thing put out. I was going to send you the link to this article. I saw it. I saw it on your Facebook. Did you see that? I was like, whoa. I know. Isn't that cool? I was like, how many superhero shows are there going to be now? There's like 30. That would be 30. I don't know. But I'm the only director mentioned in there. You are. You're helming all of them. That's because of Jessica Jones. Totally. See, that's what happens. I have like new fans. Anyway, it's all good. So you are going to be helming She-Hulk. With, yes. With what? Something else? Yeah, I don't know. That's it. That's it. He is James Bond. Jane Bond. Jane Bond. Jane Bond. Come on. Oh my God, happening. The lost wife. Happening. But a total badass. Sister. Sister. Sister. I like that better. Younger. Okay. Younger sister. All right, good. Well, thank you. Thank you for coming on. And all you guys, thank you for listening. You can find me at RosemaryDirects on Twitter and Instagram. Kristen, what's your thing there? Okay, so I'm just at KristenRitter on Twitter. And I have the unfortunate handle of the real question. KristenRitter on Instagram. And let me just tell you why. Because at one point, Instagram changed their policies. And they were going to like own everything. So my publicist was like, that's so annoying. My publicist, you know what I mean. That's okay. Was like, you should get off Instagram. So I did. And then some time went by, they didn't do whatever said policy. And I got back on and they wouldn't give me my name back. Why? I don't know. Nobody else had your name. No one else has my name, but they just wouldn't give it back to me. So Instagram, hey. Maybe you can give me your name. Maybe you can give me my name back. It would make life a little easier for all of us. Totally. I just post pictures of my dog and my knitting projects anyway. No, it's true. Well, it lets everyone know how down to earth you are. Totally. And what a cool chick you really are. I love that. Okay, so you can find me on Facebook and on Twitter and Instagram. And look for Silver Skies. All right, Silver Skies, the movie on Facebook. Silver Skies is screening at Tiburon Film Festival Saturday night, this Saturday. It's going to close the Palm Beach Film Festival. Next Thursday. Amazing. And the following Sunday, it's going to play at Cinema Village in the Manhattan Film Festival. So I have a New York City screen. Is it on iTunes yet? It's not out yet. But it will be soon. It's heading to distribution. Got it. Inching forward. Totally. Amazing. All right, cool. Thank you, everybody. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Come on, people. It's time to live it up. That's right. Live it up. Live it up. Live it up. Live it up. Come on, people, now. Live it up. Go together now. Live it up. Let's together. Come on, people, let's live it up. Boom. Boom.