Basil Nestor on poker, G-Food Plus, and club promotion

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Now, growing up in Toledo, is that, I mean, is it a small town? Is it considered a... It's a nightmare. Really? It's not like a pole dunk, like nothing. There's large cities. The Mud Hens are there. It was an interesting nightmare, hopefully. Yeah, it was an interesting nightmare, yeah. Wasn't Clinger from Ash from there or something? Yeah, I think so. So it's not a big city, but it's kind of a medium town. Yeah. Katie Holmes is from there. Katie Holmes is from there. Well, we'll forgive them for that. Yeah, it doesn't really make a difference because Michael Jackson was from Gary, Indiana. Really, it's the butthole of Indiana. Really? I think that was the murder capital for a while of Indiana. Oh, my God. There are potholes there that will eat Priuses. Really? So, like, if you have a Prius, do not drive in Gary, Indiana. You will lose your car. Indiana, not the best road maintenance there. Just Gary, Indiana. Like, ours was fine. It's just... That particular area. They're just like, ah, Michael Jackson, we quit. We're done. Right. Thank you and good night. They just dropped the microphone. Wow. So what prompted you to move to L.A.? I mean, you're the queen of Toledo. What prompted you to move to L.A.? I like that you said that. I really just wanted to surf. So that was my whole goal, yeah. And I am an awful surfer, but at least I've done it and I can do it. Okay. I'm awful at it. But that was my whole goal and dream was just to surf. Yeah. What prompted this dream? I had no idea. I loved the water when I was a kid and I just kept going with it. And then I just would watch all the surfers on TV and I'm like, I want to do that. I don't want to be here in Ohio, you know, packed into the house with a bunch of snow. I want to be out doing whatever it is I want to do. And yeah. And so when did you start doing clubs out here? And what's the difference between getting clubs started here and in Toledo? Well, in Toledo, there was nobody really at all to go to the clubs. You had to actually really search from here. You kind of do an event and people come. And you know, you can meet people and meet really fascinating, interesting artists. And I really like to bring the arts into the nightclub. Well, that's the thing. And that's what Liquid City Productions does. And that's what really sets you apart is that you have artists exhibiting their arts while people are dancing and drinking. Yeah. I'll have anywhere from 20 to 50 artists displaying their work. Right. And I also curated Second Street Cigars and Gallery in downtown. So I'm able to have a lot of the artists in the gallery. And then pull them into the shows and vice versa. And I mean, doing their showing their art in the club. I mean, does it does it help sales for them or? Yeah, it does. It does. Because so many they get so much different exposure. Right. You know, from a totally different crowd that wouldn't normally go to a gallery. Right. I know that I bought a couple of pieces from her shows. Right. OK. And you weren't the glow show, right? Glow Crazy? Which one was that? That was in late April where we did all self-illuminated art. No, no. I remember that. The reason why. I don't remember. That is because art was flying off the walls there. People were literally. It was a really great show. Kendra and I co-produced it. OK. And people were coming to me and saying, can I take the art now? Right. I'm like, yes. Yes, you can. It was an excellent show. The artwork was amazing. Oh, that sounds great. I wish I was there. The concept was is that we'd done so many shows together where lighting was an issue. You know, it's like and you always got it right. But lighting is a huge extra thing where you always have to have the lights and where the lights. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. or it was incandescent or it was, you know, in some way creating its own life. And then all the other elements that Liquid City Productions had been very well known for. Right. And, boy, it was hugely successful. I mean, we're talking the place was packed and we had to, like, kick them out at the end of the night. Literally, go home. Right. Go home. Wow. I'm sorry I missed that. Well, we'll make sure that you're – Yeah, please. The next time we do it, yes. But – and that's obviously Basil speaking. And I didn't know Basil was such a big deal. I've seen Basil at the clubs. We've talked. Yes. And then I do research on you and you're telling me about his new food venture and we will talk about that. But this is a guy – I didn't know you were such a big deal. I didn't know you wrote the Playboy Guide to Casino Gambling. Yes. And you've written – Eight books, seven of which are about gambling. The first one was about – was the biography of Judy Garland called Judy Garland to Life in Pictures. I was wondering if that was you. That was me. I was wondering if you were gay. No. Well, I just was always – No, no, no. But you wrote a book about Judy Garland. I know. It's just that that's the correlation. I became – when I wrote that book, I kind of became very well-known in gay circles and everyone just was like, oh, please come to our parties. And I was like, I am so straight. By the way, I get invited to those parties but for a completely different reason. But what is it about Judy Garland that appeals to gay men so much? I – you know, I think – You're the expert. Yeah. I think what it is is just the life that she led that had to do with aloneness and perseverance. And I think that one of the things that identified her was that she was obviously incredibly talented. Sure. She was very attractive to people. People thought she was attractive but she didn't think she was attractive herself. She knew what her worth was but she had low self-esteem often. Right. And I think that – Yeah. A lot of people that are suffering being in the closet or in some way integrating into society can – You almost said suffering for being a homosexual but please, not everybody is suffering. Yeah. Well, obviously. But what I mean is that the idea – I think that everyone who in this society to a large degree, it takes a leap of faith and you have to come to grips with who you are. Sure. And I think that when that happens, people can relate to what – Yeah. Judy Garland went through and they want to – they understand just the experience of being very, very – having a lot to offer and feeling uncomfortable in the interaction with society. Good point. That sounds like my story. But now as a straight man, what prompted you to write a book about Judy Garland? Well, I – now we're getting into the serious stuff. I was always actually a big Liza Minnelli fan. Okay. So you are. And Dark Mark, here's my revelation. This is – I mean you just brought it out of me in an interview. And that is just that when I was very young, I saw the film Cabaret. I don't know if you're familiar. Bob Fosse. I've heard of it, yes. It's an amazing film. It's amazing, isn't it? Yeah, it is. It is an amazing film. And when I saw it, it served sort of as a blueprint to my own life. Okay. And for a million different reasons. I mean there was a vision in it. There was a – There was a style in it. There was something that – You were persecuted by Nazis? No, it had more to do with – although sometimes, you know, in society one feels that way occasionally. But no, it had more to do with the idea of art and life and sensuality being fused and not being – those things aren't separate. They're actually together. They always exist together. And so when I saw that, it just really affected me as, you know, a boy. I was a boy at the time. It's fusing together right now because I can't look at you. Because both these women are just intently looking at you, hanging on every word, and they're just so bold, so beautiful. I can't do it. Actually, they are. They are. The direction I have under my desk has nothing to do with you, Basil. Let me tell you something. Look at that. Am I making myself comfortable? There you go. But actually, here's the point. Actually, you're making my point for me, and that is that when I saw that film, I had a vision of my own life. Right. And in many ways, that vision involved being here tonight. With these women. Ah. And I'm telling you the truth. This guy's smooth. He's very smooth. I'm telling you. We're both like, aw. But anyway. I want to be you, man. That's good. That was good. Anyway, that's Liza to Judy. But being a poker player, you probably clean up with the women. You can see the tells. Well, here's the thing. And that is the most important thing about poker isn't necessarily being able to play your hand. It's being able to play someone else's hand. Right. Exactly. Well, I know you're reading the players. You're not reading the cards. Yeah, exactly. You're not reading your hand. Right. Right. Right. Right. So, but when you go out and you're talking to girls, or I mean, with the Liza, Judy thing, I'm still confused. But if you're going out and you're talking to girls, you can tell what they're reacting to and you can change based on that reaction, right? That's absolutely correct. Because I can't. I don't know what women are thinking. I don't know what women are thinking. I don't know what women are thinking until it goes horribly wrong. That's me. So you get smacked in the face? I'm going to give you like one thing that like one tell. Okay. And that is that when you're talking to a woman. And obviously we all, if there's a pretty girl, you want her to like her. You want her to like you. I want her to like herself as well, but that's not in this town. But if, and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. But if you're unsure and you're talking to her and you're having an honest conversation, reach out and touch her gently on the shoulder like this. Okay. And what she leaned in, that's a tell. Exactly. What she does with her body tells you what kind of opportunities you might have. And if that woman angles herself to you and also touches you back, you've got a chance. She pulls back or she crosses her arms. I'm used to that. You know, even if it's a good conversation, you might, you're like, oh, I'm not going to do that. You're like, you know, it's not always about you, but actually that's one of the thing. And I'm going to just, um, 90% of the things that happen, especially the bad things that happen don't aren't about you. If someone's in a bad mood, it's not necessarily all about what you did. It's about what's happening. Right. And you never know what that person's been through that day or even their year or what was their last experience like with the opposite sex or whoever it is that you're dealing with. Right. You know, it could just be like you remind them of something. Right. You remind them of somebody. And so, you know, maybe that makes them a little bit more closed off too. Right. I, I, I start, I'm increasingly, as I get older here, uh, you remind me of your father, which is fine. Cause I, I, I, I make him, uh, I make him go to bed before I fuck up. That's good. Anyway, Kendra, um, you know, you know, they got school in the morning, but Kendra, now let me ask you a question cause you are a club promoter and we're going to talk about the art and everything else, but what is it about the goth culture that, that, that it's, it's eternal? I mean, clubs go, come and go, scenes come and go, but the goth culture just keeps going on. I don't know. Okay. Do you have a theory on this? I think those people are always going to be a little depressed and they're always going to like the mysterious and the odd. So you put those things together and you know, you're, that's always going to continue. You're always going to get that little bit of depression, but you're also going to get people that are, I think that the whole goth community is very cultured and I'm also very eccentric. I think people like that and they're going to follow their, their roots, you know, they're going to follow their way back and then just going to keep going. I don't think there's any way of stopping that. Right. And then also your Liquid City, and I don't know if you had a question, Janet, but. Oh, well I was going to also just kind of make a comment and see if you agree as, as well is, um, along with that, um, when you said the depression, right? And so I think just society in general, everybody deals with that, but a lot of people put on a happy face and they're like, oh, if I do this and this and this, then I'm going to, you know, I'm going to be depressed. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. Like, hey, I don't believe this. We fall in love with their art because we see their heart within it. We also have an outlet for our depression. Yeah, there's definitely an outlet. I think the community is also very, the concept is very triumphalist, meaning the idea is that people that are very involved in goth culture actually hold up things that are dark and death and sadness and say, they say, here it is, I'm not afraid of it. I own it. Absolutely. I like you guys' answers better than mine. Thank you. I appreciate that. Actually, no, no, no. I totally see it when you talk about the art and the art that you offer. When we go and we look at these things, I see people's heart. I don't see people who are just trying to make money. It's about like this is who I am and I accept me. Here it is on a canvas. And within that, we're able to go, I relate, and then take that and feel acceptance and validation. And like you're saying, we go, here it is. We're not scared of it. We're not scared of it. We're not ashamed of it. This is life. You in particular, Jenna, dress up. You put fangs in. You dress up. I love to have fun like that. You get all sorts of stuff. Totally. I think everybody likes to do stuff like that. But within that, like with our groups, we can go and have an absolute blast at, say, like Noise Factory. Or then we can also go and experience art and the same music and go home feeling just as fulfilled by going to Kendra's stuff as well and being able to all have that kind of experience. And I think that's what we're able to do. And I think that's what we're able to do. And I think that's what we're able to do. And I think that's what we're able to do. And I think that's what we're able to do. And I think that's what we're able to do. Actually, actually, here's a good example of what I think the goth culture embodies. It's actually the night that I met you, which was, I want to say, two years ago. This guy's smart. Probably. Oh, and watch this. You remember that? Yeah, I do. It was because it was very memorable to me. It was, we were at 333. And if I'd seen you before, I mean, I'm sure we had been like in the same room before, but we were introduced by... By Crumb Girl. Yeah, Shannon. And yes, and when she introduced you to me, you made eye contact with me. You looked at me and you said, and it's a pleasure meeting you. And we shared a moment where of actual acknowledgement as opposed to, oh, it's a busy, loud room. And that kind of contact that people actually have is much more prevalent and present in what I would consider to be the goth culture than in a lot of other cultures. No. I completely agree. Yeah. So, yeah. And it's people's hearts that we see when we go out and we're like, hey, I accept you. And let's go dance. Well, while Jenna and Baz will get a room, let me ask you this question. And it's a similar question, but your clubs always have 80s music. Usually. Usually have 80s music. Not always. Okay. Usually feature 80s music. What is it about 80s music that it's still, the kids love it. It appeals to everybody. It appeals to everybody. But why not 90s music? I don't know. 90s music, the whole grunge scene was awful. But I mean, there's more to 90s music than the grunge scene. Because I remember, and I don't know how far back, but I remember even when the 70s were coming back and then people were like, well, 80s would never come back. It's stupid. And then the 80s came back. And then you're like, okay, well, then 90s clubs are going to start popping up. And a couple of people tried it. And it failed. It failed. It always failed. I liked it. I liked it. I went to a 90s club once. I was really drunk, but I liked it. But they're playing Vogue and Bjork and stuff like that. But it was just like, what is it about the 80s music that even the 70s never really came back? And the 90s and the 2000s, I don't think it's going to have the same impact. I don't know. I think it was the beats of the music. It's so easy to swirl around to and you can act out because the lyrics are great. And each song has a little story that you can actually dance out. Right. So I think maybe that's what it is. That's definitely something that's missing is the story. Yeah. In a lot of music. Yeah. And the 80s music really tells a story. It does. Most of the time it does. Yeah. What's also good, you were talking about how like, you know, it's almost kind of like almost a simple beat. You can take that and then remix it and it's just as fresh and just as much fun as it was the first time you heard it back in the 80s. And so I think that's why it's really popular. It's easy to come back and remix and make it new and exciting again. Right. So like pizza is always pizza, but you throw something new on there and you're like, oh, it's new pizza. Oh, so there we go. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. 80s music is like pizza. Everybody loves it. Yeah. There you go. 80s music. Yeah. Bad pizza is good. Good. Good pizza. Yeah. That's true. Okay. Anyway, like I say, I met you a couple of times and I'm sure you don't recall when we met and our eyes met and all that. Maybe you do. I don't know. But. It was at Borders. Here we go. See, he does remember. But. And I didn't know you were such a big deal. Kendra's like, oh, he's coming. But you. When did you start playing poker? Years ago. Many years ago. What happened was. Was that when the poker boom was like 10 years ago? No, no, no. Before that, actually. What happened was, is that I eventually, because of the visions that I was telling you about, I ended up going to film school and I became a commercial director. Really? Yes. And I ended up doing a lot of TV commercials and many of which were for Merv Griffin. And he and I were just famous friends. And I loved him. I loved him. Judy Garland and Merv Griffin. I know. I'm telling you. Oh, no, no. Anyway. How was Merv Griffin? He was an awesome man. He was incredible. He was so creative and so personable. He was the kind of person that made you just forget everything except being creative. I mean, he just made me a better artist. So he took care of all the business end of it and said, just create. Pretty much. So you say, I need this. He got you that. Yeah. Actually, one of the things. He would do is when we would work together, he would give me just as a creative freedom. He would literally say, just do whatever it is you feel you want to do. I trust you completely. In fact, that's the very first time I ever met him. He said, I trust you completely. Do what you feel is best. And by the way, I got to explain, especially for kids in the studio and people under 30 that might be listening and watching. Merv Griffin had a show. He was in the 70s. He had a talk show at night and in the afternoon, I think. Really big talk show. And by the time you met him, I think he was doing more producing. He pre-created Jeopardy. He produced a lot of shows. He created Jeopardy. He created Wheel of Fortune. Wheel of Fortune. So the man, I mean, he. And it was. He started as a singer, right? Yes. Yeah. I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts back in. Right, right, right, right. And so, and when you met him, it was, he was, I mean, he was older. He was, yeah, he was, you know. But he was still doing commercials and. Well, what he was doing, the reason why, the way I got into gambling was he owned casinos. Right, right. And so I was doing, he was. Oh, yeah. He owned a casino. Yeah, yeah. He owned them. Okay, so I started doing commercials for casinos. And then one day I thought to myself, you know, I like this business. This is a great business. Right. And although being a commercial director was very lucrative, I thought to myself, there's even more money in the gambling business. Right. So essentially what I did was I transitioned. I still do media and video and I'm still do a lot of things that involve marketing. Wow. But I started writing. Well, I started gambling professionally and I started writing books about it because I wanted the royalties. So you quit commercial directing and just gambled full time? And wrote. Yes. And how much money did you have in the bank? Well, a lot. Okay. As more after. Six figures or? More after I was playing. No, no. What kind of pop did you start out with? Oh, yeah. He wants to get jacked on the way out. We're not talking about what's in my pocket. How much do you have in your wallet? But I will tell you this. I will tell you this. One of the things I love. But it was in the thousands. Oh. One of the things I loved about when poker was more accessible online was that way back in the day, I made one deposit online and then for the next five years, I did nothing but withdraw. Wow. I think he knows what he's talking about. So that's crazy. And that's not possible anymore. And the reason why is just that the federal. The federal regulations have changed online poker. Eventually, we're going to get back to being able to play online poker legally. Right. But right now, it's very, very difficult. In the early 2000s, when it really boomed, you could still do it online. Yeah. And then there were so many people doing it. And there were so many people that were bad at playing poker. You could earn. You could flee some. Yeah. You could earn money. Here's the thing. As long as you declared it, and God bless the IRS, I always declare my income. Right. Okay. That was the most important thing. And people literally would just come online and they'd almost essentially give you money. The poker boom really started. I mean, you know. 2002, 2003. When Craig Moneymaker was his name, I think. Chris Moneymaker. Yeah. Okay. He was a guy that he got in through an online tournament. Right. And won the World Series of Poker. Right. And it was televised. And then after that, everybody I know was playing poker and quitting their job and starting poker. Okay. That's why I'm asking you. Probably if you got a couple. You ran the bank and you're going to do poker. I was. I was. I was. I wrote my first books before that happened. Right. My first books came out in 2004, 2005. And here's the other question I have now. And I actually brought some cards, so we might do a hand or two. But you wrote a book on how to beat slots. Yes. How do you do that? Okay. All right. Well, here's the thing. Because I understand blackjack. I understand poker. There's a skill to that. You can actually look at a slot machine and know how much it's going to pay back. Okay. I'm going to Vegas at the end of the month. All right. All right. All right. I'm going to Vegas. I'm going to Vegas. I'm going to Vegas. I'm going to Vegas. For example, one of the magazines I write for, Casino Player Magazine, has slot charts in the back. And what are the slot charts? What they do is every major jurisdiction is required by law to report how much the slot machines earn. Right. And so you can actually look at those charts and see, like by denomination and oftentimes by casino, which slots pay back more than others. And so, for example, I can tell you that at a certain time last year, I had a slot machine that was going to be much tighter than a dollar slot machine at a Borgata. Where do you get these charts? They're at the back of Casino Player Magazine. And Casino Player collates all this information from all over the country. That was a nice plug, but yeah. Okay. Well, I write for them. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, once you're familiar with... With how machines pay back, you can literally choose your machine based on how much you want to get back, essentially. And what the loosest machines are. Okay. But probably stay away from... Because all the machines now are like gimmick machines. They're all like TV show machines and Batman machines and Twilight Zone machines and Gilligan's Island machines. Well, I'll tell you, just... Stay away from those, right? Penny, yeah. No, I don't want to say... Generally speaking, penny and nickel slots are the tightest slots. Penny slots are the tightest slots of all. Nickel slots, progressive. Progressives are very, very tight. If you want to get a really, really good return for your money, what you want to do is you want to play video poker for the most part. Right, right. And not just any video poker machine, but there are certain pay tables. You can actually look at a video poker machine pay table and determine based on what the pay table is, what the payback is. Right. So, for example, if you're playing... And I'm just going to be very simple here because this is a little bit... I understand, yeah, yeah. If you're playing a straight Jax or better game and the pay table has nine credits for a five-year payback, you can actually look at the pay table and determine what the payback is. So, if you're playing a full house and six for a flush, that will give you a 99% payback. But if it's six for a full house and five for a flush, that's going to drop it to 95%. That's 5% less that you're going to get paid back. Right. And over time, when you're just not getting as many paybacks, it's going to not push you as far and give you as much room to get that jackpot, which is the Royal Flush. Okay. So, you can look at a machine and say, okay. I want this pay table over that pay table and... So, I just subscribe to Casino Player Magazine is basically the... Yeah. Actually, buy my book first and then... Right. Okay. Yes. Yes. It's on Amazon right now. So, let me do this here. Hold on one second because... Wait. Let's play some strip poker. Come on. Here you go. Strip poker. Strip poker. Oh, there you go. Did you actually... Well, that is the flop. Okay. We know what that is. So, that's your card. You want to burn that card. Okay. We'll burn that card. Okay. We'll burn that card. There's a card. All right. I'm putting my vest back on. You're out of control. Okay. Here's one for you. Thank you. Here's one for you. Here's one for you. There's one for me. These are like win-win cards. Even if you lose, you win. Then you put three out, right? Yes. Okay. So, here's the flop. Okay? Yeah. And I would actually might call this hand for... Okay. So, it's a queen and eight and a four. Uh-huh. Okay. So, I bet my left shoe. Okay. And I would generally fold at this point. Okay. So, what's my tell? The fact that you just bet. I have no money in the pot at this point unless I put in a... We're all anted in, you know, let's say. All right. Well, if you anted in and you bet, how much did you bet? Well, it's one shoe. It's a small bet. Okay. When I'm saying if it's a small bet, depending on the size of the pot, what's in the ante, I would still fold because it's like I just... The cards that are here and the cards that I have indicate to me that I don't have... So, you're not playing me. You're playing your own cards right now. No, I'm also playing you because you're first to act. In other words, it's like if I was... I don't mean to get too complicated here. If I was first to act, I would probably bet even though I had no cards. Okay. Okay. And then you would have the same decision I would. You'd have to look at me and say, I don't know, is he betting for a reason? Is he trying to build a pot or whatever? But you said you went first. Kendra, do you call or do you raise? I'll call. Okay. All right. I'll raise my fishnet shirt. Okay. I had to say something. This can go. So, you're both... So, you're betting your shirt. I call and you're calling too, right? Yeah. Okay. And you're folding. I'm folding. Okay. Do you know who has the best hand already? I would say that I would probably aim my possibilities at Jenna. I think she's probably... I don't mean to like... Okay. I'll say I think she's probably got a pair. Okay. All right. Let's see what happens here. Okay. Okay. So, Kendra, you bet. First action to you, actually. Oh, first action to me. Okay. I'll check. And then Kendra. Kendra. No, it's Kendra. And I'll check. My belt. I raised my belt. You raised your belt. Uh-huh. So, so far, it's my shirt and my belt. And your shoe. And apparently, my shoe. Yeah, because I bet the shoe first. That's cool. I don't care. It's a shoe. Okay. So, I'm going to bet the shoe first. So... By the way, before you reveal your cards, I want to try to see if I can predict what they are. Okay. Okay. I call. I think I'd probably be out at this point. You're going to fold? Yeah, I think so. Okay. All right. Now, you know who has the best hand? I know who I think is betting. Okay. So, that's a five. Okay. That's our last card, right? That's our last card. So, action is to you since she... Okay. I was out. I'll go all in. You're going to take all your clothes off? Yes. All right. That means I have to take all my clothes off. That's the best. I didn't shave, man. I had to fold. Okay. All right. Don't... No, okay. So, analyze what just happened. Yeah. I'm going to say that my guess is that she had either a pair of queen... This is a... That's a queen. A pair of queens or... These are my Betty Page playing cards. Yeah, I know. Either a pair of queens or a pair of eights and probably... Or she was on a draw. And you... I would say that since I wasn't involved with the hand, I would either say that you were completely bluffing or you also had a pair or better. Okay. And what did you have, Jenna? I had two pair. Aces over twos. Oh, wow. There you go. Yeah. I'm glad I got out. I had a pair of sevens. By the way, where's the ace? That's a four. Never mind. Anyway, but I... I can't see from over here. I had a king and a queen, so I would have won the hand. Yeah. Okay. Now, what I had was a king and a nine. Right. And so I knew that for the most part, because there was action ahead of me, that even though... I also had... Isn't that a flush? Oh, I would have got naked. Okay. There you go. All right. I had the flush when I first started and then I saw... What I thought was an ace. You know, these cards are so weird. I didn't see the... It's really hard to assume. Here's a good example of a good fold. And that is that... And by the way, saving money on a good fold. And that is that you had a king and a queen. A king and a nine heads up is reasonably strong, but against four people. And with you leading out, a king and a nine unsuited, just drop that hand. Right. Don't spend money. Okay. When you can win, you can save your money and win on a hand where your cards are better. Okay. Well, there we go. You were actually pretty accurate. I mean, as accurate as you can be. She did have a better hand. You would have seen me naked. You should have called. And that tells you how much she wants to see me naked. Anyway, Kendra... I'm so sorry you didn't know. I went all in for a reason. I was like, I'll risk it. You figured someone was going to be naked. Yes, exactly. So anyway, Kendra, when is the next Liquid City? What do you got coming up? The only thing I have coming up right now is that Second Street Cigars and Gallery. I'm going to have about 30 artists September 26th. Friday, September 26th. Now, how did you get involved with Second Street Cigars? Second Street Cigars and Gallery. I actually knew Victor, who was the old owner. Well, my friend Patty Peach, who was a radio DJ for years. Okay. She actually introduced me to this guy named Victor. And this is the first time you've been on the radio. Yeah. Yeah. Patty Peach never put you on her show. That was a while ago. I believe it was Jack FM that she worked for, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was Jack FM. It was years and years ago. But she introduced me to this guy, Victor, who had been the drummer for the Bay City Rollers for a little while. Oh, wow. Yeah. I thought he was a pretty fascinating character. So I heard he had the Cigar Gallery. So I went in there and he was like, hey, you want to bring some artists in here and start doing this? And I was like, yeah, let's give this a whirl. So I started, you know, posting out on Craigslist, which I still do, and on Facebook and ask for artists. And then... It's not as good as it used to be on MySpace. Let's be honest, right? I liked MySpace. I'm not a fan of Facebook. Everybody that promotes shows tells me that. Yeah. They're like, MySpace, I was able to reach out and really get a lot of people. Now, Facebook sucks. Yes. And, you know, you got to look at other things. I have to have four Facebooks. Yeah, you have four Facebooks. Christian Vox has four Facebooks and she's frustrated. She doesn't know what to do. Yeah. And then they still stop you when you're sending out messages, like individual message people to invite them. Right. Facebook will be like, oh, sorry, too many messages today. Too many messages. So it just takes forever to do anything. Corporate scum. Yeah. And actually, the scary thing I think about Facebook is that so many of us depend on it socially. And it's not a public utility. It's not like the phone company. It's not like the electric company. It's a private enterprise. It's a private enterprise. And they can just cut you out anytime they want. And when are you as an entrepreneur going to come up with a better Facebook? There is a... Actually, it's the very next thing. The very next thing after we, after GFood+. I can't believe somebody has either, either people haven't gone back to MySpace or they haven't come up with a new thing that's better. Everybody hates it. That's true. And I don't know why everybody just hopped off MySpace to Facebook. The only reason I hopped off there is because everybody else did. Because I was like... Oh, that's why Uber Murdoch bought it. So everybody's like, oh, I don't want to be involved with this corporate scum. And now it's even worse. Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, Facebook was used for the college students initially, right? Right, right. So the college students just all moved back over there. And then everybody else who wasn't in that certain little group still tried to cling to the MySpace. But, you know, everybody else is not on there. So I don't like it. All the kids are on Instagram now. My 90s. I don't like Instagram either. My 91-year-old grandmother's on Facebook, which is cool. I mean, but... That's why all the kids are on Instagram. Because, yeah. They don't want my grandmother looking at their crazy pictures. How do you feel about Twitter? I just, I can't master it. Yeah? And it's funny because... Laugh all you want, Basil. But because comedians are really... Are we going to start talking about our lumbago now? Oh, I got pain here. Oh, my God. No, no, no. After the Twitter. What I'm saying, Basil, and don't let me call you a faggot, please. Just don't do it. No, but Basil, let me tell you something. It's not... I'm old. But the thing is, there's comics older than me, younger than me, same age as I am, that are really blowing up because of Twitter. And for some reason, I'm not. I can't get retweets like they can. And I don't know what's going on. I've bought Twitter followers. I've done all the things that... I've followed these formulas that people are at. And I can't get that many Twitter retweets. Do you have an answer for me? It's his next book. Young Hitman. Yeah, there you go. How to get retweets on Twitter. I would say just generally that it's just a marketing skill. It's like the fact that you have a radio show. It's like you had a particular marketing skill and you have the show. Right. It's another marketing skill, Twitter. Okay. So, thanks for the answer. But so... And yeah, you don't have to... I don't like Instagram either. I like Instagram. I like Tumblr too. I don't like either of those. I don't like any of the social media sites that I have to use. I'm not happy about it. Do you actually like Twitter or do you not like it? Because if you don't like it, then you can't really succeed at it. Twitter's okay. It's just... It's hard to condense my thoughts to 140 characters. I have a lot of funny stuff that's a lot funnier with 200, 300, 400 characters. And you got to... So, you start posting. And the other thing is I'm always posting clever things. Like, a little bit late. The only thing I really caught right when it happened was the U2 shitty album that just put out. I caught that right at the cusp. But everything else, I'm usually a day behind because I'm out doing shows. And by the time I get the news, like, everybody's tweeted about it. What's wrong with the album? I haven't heard it. Well, it sucks. But... There you go. That's fine. I mean, their last few albums have been really bad. And old U2's great. You know, War, Unforgivable Fire is great. This song... I mean, the first song is called The Miracle of Joey Ramone. Yeah. Like, ooh. Yeah. Which is better than their last album, which had a song called I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight. The lyrics are so shitty these days with U2 albums. And the music's just not that good. It's not exciting. It's really boring music with bad lyrics. All right. There was a comedian, I think... I can't remember. Maybe it was Conan who was saying that they actually released something on how to delete it from your iPhone. Right. Is that true? They did. They had to. Because so many people wanted to delete it from their iPhone. And I was... I was talking to them. I'm like, well, you know, what's the big deal? And they're like, well, you got iCloud, you got a shuffle, and it's all hip hop or whatever. And you got the fucking... The Miracle of Joey Ramone coming on. You're just like, dude, let me get this shit off my phone. All right. But it's... I mean, you know, whatever. And, you know, whatever. I mean, if you like U2 or not, it's fine. But, yeah, this is not good. Okay. The last couple albums have been really bad. And you caught that. You were right on the cusp of that as it was... Yeah. I said it was worth every penny. I was tweeting all sorts of stuff. And, yeah, it was... But... So, cigar culture. Are people still smoking cigars? Oh, yeah. Because, like, when poker came out, when poker really boomed about 10 years ago, that's when cigars were really big, too. We actually sit there and play poker. We actually play poker, yeah, at the cigar place. That's cool. That's fun. It's great. And so you're a girl that smokes cigars. I do. I like a cigar. I like more of the girly cigars. Don't get me wrong. But I'll... The cigarillos with the little tips on them? Well, yeah. I like them. Really? I've never seen you smoke a cigar. Yeah. Well, you haven't... You haven't been in the gallery. No, that's because I... I'm not a big cigar smoke fan. My ex-girlfriend used to smoke cigars. Well, you should come there and at least check it out. I will. I will. Yeah, I mean, you should. You would have a good time. I'm sure I would. Well, yeah. So you can fleece me in poker. And that, and plus you can walk. It's like, what, six blocks away from you? Right, right. And, yeah, sure. Whenever you... I always mean to do it. I never get down. Next show, September 26th. September 26th. Will I be in town? Oh, I'm doing a show September 26th. She does it every Friday. I'm doing... I'm doing a show in Huntington Beach. Hopefully, we'll see what happens. But, I mean, where does the time go? It's nine minutes to go. You've got to tell me about your new invention. Oh, yeah, I have. By the way, so since you're the official co-host, then I guess the other half of the prize goes to you. Oh, yeah. So you're expanding what you're doing. Yes. Okay, so... So we can even talk about the Las Vegas show that you produced. It's in the way. Things are in the way. All right. This is G-Food Plus. Here you go. Oh, awesome. Two for you. Two for you. Oh, thank you very much. Oh, thank you very much. And it's instant food, essentially. What happens is you add water, and it's all the nutrients that you could possibly want. And you can live on this if you want. I like it in the mornings for breakfast. I'm going to put one of these up in the camera here. You want me to hold it like that? Yeah, yeah. There you go. So that's Tanya's Mexican chocolate. Yes. And we have four flavors. We have Mexican chocolate. We have churro. We have pineapple. And we have mocha. How did you come up with those flavors? And I actually have a pastry chef, 14 years of experience making delicious things. And we brought her on board. And she's the person that created the flavors for the G-Food Plus. Okay. And the idea is that when you're in a hurry, let's say I was coming to the studio tonight. I wanted to make sure that I was on time. And you want to have something that's filling. You want to have a meal. You can't be hungry. But even a sandwich is going to take 10 minutes, 12 minutes. You have to make it. You have to put the this. And eating chips or Snickers or those things aren't good for you. Or those 7-Eleven Doritos fucking bullshit things. What you do is you rip open one of these pouches. You take a cup of water. You dump it in. Cold water. Cold water. Or you can also heat it if you like it warm in the morning. Sometimes I'll have it warm. Mix it up. And you drink it. And it's delicious. And it's filling. It's filling. It's 500 calories. And it's everything that you need nutritionally. This is awesome. I mean, even. Yeah. It has. I don't know if you can see. Am I even in the. And. Is it on? Try this. Try this. Try this camera here. This one here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. This. It has. Let me read. Let me read what's on there. So. No. No artificial colors. No artificial flavors. Right. And 100% nutritionally complete. Right. You've got vitamin A. You've got all these vitamins. Yes. 160% of biotin. Whatever that is. Biotin. Biotin. Excuse me. Vitamin A. Vitamin C. Over 50% of your vitamin C. Vitamin D. Vitamin E. And Jenna is obviously in great shape. So she. You eat right. I'm so thrilled about this. I mean, I usually have. If. I try to always keep like a food bar or something. That way I'm not tempted to get, you know, some hamburger or french fries. Yeah. Exactly. I keep it on me. Same thing. In my bag. So this is better than a balance bar. This is. Yes. It's more complete. It's more complete, actually. A balance bar are balanced, but they're not complete, meaning that you can't live on balance bars. Now, I like to eat. You know, I like food. But this is also very inexpensive. It's less than $2 a meal. Okay. So for people that are eating top ramen. Right. This is a better alternative to that. It's a healthier alternative. It's actually really good. I tried the chocolate one. Well, it's not just that. When you. Well, no. I'm going to have the chocolate one for lunch tomorrow. It's good. Because I'm going to be running around. If people were more forward thinking. Right. And they realized, okay, no matter what, I'm going to be spending money. Yeah. So either if I eat top ramen or I just eat the really cheap stuff, you're going to pay a doctor. That's true. To make up for the difference. Or you're going to have to buy vitamins to make up for the difference if you don't want to spend the money at the doctor. So $2, this is awesome. I can't. I'm like really, really excited about doing this. If we can buy it in bulk, that would be better. The answer is yes. It says. I mean, you've got. So you've charmed Jen in all sorts of ways today, man. And I'm so sorry. Well, and you even have your email on here. Yeah. It's basil at gfoodplus.com. Easy. Yeah. Yeah. So if you want. If you want to order the G-Food, how do people order the G-Food? Well, okay. Tonight is literally, I wasn't even planning on being here a week ago. So I'm telling everybody about this tonight, but it's going to be coming out in approximately a month. Oh, really? So we're ahead. You guys are ahead. I'm getting this. I'm getting a free preview on the G-Food. We're going to have pre-orders with a Kickstarter. And then at the end of that, we're going to roll it out and deliver it. So this is the first time anywhere on earth that anyone has heard of this other than within our very closed. You know, the corporation and, you know, the people that are doing our testing. Wow. So once I tie this, can I talk about it on Facebook? Yes, I want you to talk about it. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't sure because we like, you know, hate Facebook. No, no, no. I just want to make sure that wasn't a negative. I'm wearing a radio show. That's why I came. I thought, here's the thing. I went through the big decision. I said, you know what? It's going to be here in a dark mark. This is where we're going to debut. It's a dark mark exclusive. Exactly. It is. G-Food. Actually. G-Food. I mean, I'm surprised G-Food wasn't taken. Actually, G-Food isn't taken. No, but I added the plus because there's a plus. So it's G-Food plus PLUS.com. Ah, okay. I look forward. I'm going to have the chocolate for lunch tomorrow and we're going to see how it is. Chocolate's the best one. And I want you to have more. Yeah, actually, you know, yeah, chocolate is my second favorite. Mocha is. Mocha? Does mocha taste like coffee? It does. Coffee and chocolate. And then I have to say, Chris, I, you know, I just, I just love them all. Pineapple's good. The pineapple. Yeah, you knew it. You knew what I was going to say. So you got the pineapple here. Yeah, the pineapple just sort of just bursts, you know. Oh, my God. And what is, what is the other one? Churro. Churro. Churro. Yeah. Churro. That's interesting. So, I mean, but when you put the water in, what kind of, is it like an oatmeal? Is it like a shake? It actually, the consistency is like a milkshake. So it's a shake. Actually, I'm going to Wasteland. How many of these can I purchase before heading out? Since it's going to be a month. I'm like, oh, come on. The answer is, is that you can purchase, you can purchase none, but I'll give you many for free. Ah. There you go. Yeah. And I'll advertise at Wasteland. It'll be like, Jen, how can you stay up for 24 hours, four days in a row? Just give me this. This? Yeah. Cheap food plus? Exactly. Bitches. I'll add that part. What is Wasteland? What is Wasteland weekend? It's similar to, I'm going to get crucified for this. It's similar to Burning Man, but it's smaller and cheaper. I know what it is. Yeah. It's like the cool Burning Man that people love. It is. It is, actually. It's very intimate. It's very intimate family, post-apocalyptic type of get together. Like Mad Max. Right. When is that? That's this coming weekend. Not this weekend, but the next weekend, the 25th through the 28th. Okay. And you can still go. I mean, they didn't put a cap on it this year, so you can still go and camp and it's just like a hundred dollars. That's it. What were you going to say? So go to wasteland.com. I was going to say, ask me why I'm not going to Wasteland weekend. Why are you not going to Wasteland weekend? Because I love Wasteland weekend. But unfortunately. I was going to say, Deontward is playing at the Palladium on that Saturday. And it was like, I bought my tickets. I was like, oh my God. You know, I like, I love Deontward. I love Deontward. Okay. So. Well, I think you're feaky. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly. That's exactly. So anyway, boy, you guys are just some of the most charming people I know. Kendra, how do people get ahold of you and tell us about that next event at the Second Street Cigar? Just get ahold of me on, unfortunately, Facebook. Just look up Liquid City. Liquid City. Liquid City. Liquid City. Liquid City. Yeah. Kendra. Kendra and crying. Kendra Liquid City crying. Yeah. And what was the other one? Kendra Artist. Kendra Artist crying. Yes. Okay. C-R-Y-A-N. Yep. That's right. And the next event, like I said, will be at Second Street Cigars and Gallery. That's on Second Spring Street in downtown Los Angeles. There'll be about 30 artists there. We always have a poker table and we'll have wine and some snacks and just amazing art. Just smoke a blunt with Kendra. Yeah. Come on down. And Basil, how do we get ahold of you? And how do we get ahold of you? How do we get ahold of this G-Food today? You can go to gfoodplus.com. And if you're looking for any of my books, just go to Amazon or Barnes & Noble. Type in my name, Basil Nestor. Is it Basil? I've been calling you Basil the whole time. That's okay. My British friends call me Basil. But it's B-A-S-I-L Nestor, N-E-S-T-O-R. Right. And then just all my books will come up. And, you know, whatever you're interested in, whether it's craps or poker or blackjack, I've written a book about it. And speaking of Nestor, stick around if you're listening to Skid Row Live because Nestor Rodriguez is up next. With the story is public radio. And, Jenna, how do people get a—we're going to see you at Wasteland Weekend, of course. I'll be at Wasteland. Now, what outfit are you going to be wearing at Wasteland Weekend? I have several different ones. My friend Steph and I went to Goodwill. My favorite is that it's just this V, like a V or a triangle-shaped scarf that I'm literally just wrapping around me and tying around my neck. I was going to say— That's it. It's too hot sometimes to, like, overdo it there. Well, Jenna, the— So it'll be leather at night and, you know, black leather at night and then— Tiny little scarf during the day. Tiny scarves during the day. That's a song, black leather at night and tiny scarf during the day. The less the better, Jenna. You're beautiful and we all— Thanks. And thanks for coming. Thank you. I said thanks for coming. I'm just going to thank everybody. Have a wonderfully creepy week, everybody. Thanks, Mark. Thanks, Mark. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.