Jason Jesse and Chris Pontius talk skateboarding and knives

People have powerful feelings about the traffic in Los Angeles. It says something that local officials warned motorists about a temporary roadwork closure on the 405 last year by calling it Carmageddon. Angelenos took the hint, and this weekend they're expected to steer clear of the latest 405 closure, named, of course, Carmageddon 2. That's how it is in L.A., a snarl of overstuffed freeways and commuters who keep their cool, except when they don't. KPCC's Stephen Cuevas has this profile of a punk rocker whose music expresses the insanity of L.A. traffic while extolling the virtues of public transit. Couple of things you need to know about Eddie Solis. He lives in L.A., loves the band Kiss, and does not own a car. Being someone who's from L.A., born and raised, and, you know, having a few cars in my past, I saw the city much differently through a different perspective through the eyes of a bus rider. Come on, just all the way to the back. Line 18, Wilshire, Western Station. Just steps from the front door of his home, across the street from a tortilla factory in L.A.'s Boyle Heights neighborhood, Solis catches a bus that connects him with the city's subway, and the commuter train he catches to his day job at an indie record label in Hollywood. It just opened me up to, like, little neighborhoods, galleries, clubs, bars, just everything, just seeing what's out there, little pockets of the city. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. Solis' journeys aboard L.A. buses and subway cars informs a lot of the material on The New Los Angeles Part One, Through the Eyes of a Bus Rider, the latest release by the singer-guitarist band It's Casual. The New Los Angeles. No one has learned much. In Solis' vision of a new Los Angeles, people abandon their cars, climb aboard public transit. and rediscover their communities. One song extols the virtues of the L.A. County Metropolitan Transit Agency's E-ZPass and the urban underbelly it introduces to the rider. And that's, like, a nod, an homage to, you know, the people who know what you can even go cheaper and really beat the system and really steer away from spending money on gas and oil profits and all that. Fifty dollars is all it takes for me to get to work. Fifty dollars is all it takes. Fifty dollars is all it takes for me to get to work. It's not just for me to witness racial tension, for me to witness illegal aliens. It's not to paint a negative picture. It's just my perspective of what is seen. Off the bus and back on the street, we make our way past a jazz saxophonist playing for pocket change and down a long escalator to catch a train. So, where are we now? We're at the Red Line Station. We're at the Red Line Station. We're at the Pershing Square Station in downtown L.A. And what's our destination? We're going to go downstairs another tier and in about five minutes we're going to get on the Red Line going northbound. Okay, let's go. The Metro Red Line snakes from North Hollywood to downtown Los Angeles. It's the train that inspired its casuals signature tune and spawned a viral internet video. It was partly filmed late at night on a moving train as it hurtles from station to station. Solis thrashes away on his guitar and barks the lyrics. Which celebrate the Red Line and call out the congested freeways that coil around Los Angeles. This is a Metro Red Line train to North Hollywood. The 210, 605, the freeways are not so nice. The I-5, the 210, the freeways are not so nice. The thread that comes out of the record that ties everyone together is just like, be alive, don't be a victim of having a car. The 210, 605, the freeways are not so nice. The I-5, the 210, the freeways are not so nice. The Red Line. The Red Line. An MTA spokesman said he couldn't comment on Eddie Solis' furious pro-Metro message, but the Red Line video was a hit at the offices of Move LA. Eddie's done a good job. Thank you, Eddie. Thank you, Eddie. Thank you, Eddie. The public transportation advocacy group headed by former Santa Monica mayor Denny Zane, he liked the juxtaposition of Solis blissfully riding LA public transit in one scene with scenes of the band raging against those notorious freeway jams. Eddie is all frantic when he talks about highways and so mellow when he's like grooving on a skateboard and on the bus and on the Red Line. There's a metaphor for the transformation, you know, from the, you know, my God, I just got to get out of the. I can't stop. I can't stop. I can't stop. I can't stop. I can't stop. I can't stop. I can't stop. I can't stop. Hey, this is cool. I can mellow out. Or you can blast the tune like too many people as you claw your way across Los Angeles, car, bus or skateboard. Too many people could also be a motto for its casual. Over the years, the band whittled itself down to a power duo of Solis and a rotating cast of drummers. So you may think the burly bearded punk rocker just can't get along with freeways with people or his native LA. Not true. I love it. I love everything about it. I've traveled throughout the US many times and I could never look forward enough to coming back. The weather, the different cultures, the landscape. I was just like, you know what? Now I know everyone who's LA. Solis will bring the love and the volume during a Redline mini tour next month. Its casual will play a different venue within walking distance of several Redline Metro stops from Union Station to West Hollywood. For the California Report, I'm Stephen Cuevas. I was my driver last night. And that's the California Report, a production of KQED Public Radio in San Francisco. Our director this week is Nina Thorsen. Ceele Muller is our technical producer. We had additional engineering from Danny Bringer and Howard Gelman. Thanks to Hank Hadley at KCBX. Our online team includes Lisa Pickoff-White, David Marks, and Don Clyde. Our interns are Catherine Borgeson and Rachel Johnson. Tykee Hendricks is our elections editor with production, and our editor, Danny Bringer, is our editor, Danny Goggin, This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. This is the California Report. We'll never be friends Be no peace There'll be no love Life's too short to not Hold a grudge You fucked me over You hung me out to dry You swept me under You said goodbye Life is too short to not Hold a grudge No concessions I will not budge Won't forgive There'll be no compromise Meet you halfway I'd rather die Meet you halfway I'd rather die Meet you halfway I'd rather die Meet you halfway I'd rather die Meet you halfway I'd rather die To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... To be continued... Do we have any callers? Do we have any callers? Oh, God. Yo, welcome back to Los Angeles Nista episode 139. In-studio guest, Jason Jesse. What's up, Jason? Hi, how are you doing? Good to see you. You know what? I thought Jason Jesse and Clayform was coming. Do you remember Clayform, Jason Jesse? Streets of Fire? Barely. I just know that he had two first names like me. Did he? Yeah. I don't even remember that. I was asleep. You were asleep? You were asleep? You know what? I want to ask you, man. We want to do the definitive Jason Jesse interview. We want to talk about lowriders, penaltons. We want to talk about guns, motorcycles. Oh, my gosh. And frontside ollies. Oh, okay. And converse. Okay. Let's maybe... Let's shy away from the... Let's... Oh, my God. Let's shy away from the guns, the lowriders, but not the penaltons. I'm going to clear my throat a lot. You're going to clear your throat? Okay, that's fine. Yeah, but it's a nerve. It's a nerve. That's fine. It's a nerve. It's a nerve. It's a nerve. It's a nerve. It's a nerve. It's a nerve. It's a nerve. And... You're worldwide right now on Los Angeles Nista. Okay. Everyone's watching and listening. But let me ask you this. How the heck are people watching on... Yeah. I need a wingman. Isn't it a wingman? I need a wingman. Let's call you a wingman. I need a wingman. Want to call him on the phone right now? No, I'll text him. You're going to text him? Yeah. Okay. Okay, I got to ask you. You're up and down the coast. What's your hometown? In San Clemente. But... I would have to go San Clemente. San Clemente is right down. Yeah, since... And my grandparents lived in Santa Ana. You have a lot of roots in Orange County, SoCal. Yeah, Santa Ana, Orange County. And there's a Jesse Street. There is Jesse Court. I think there's seven houses on it. It's because of my grandpa. Yeah, tell that story. That's huge Southern California history right there. I... Well, I... I drove by it. And there's seven houses. And I was like, we did good. We did. And we pulled it. In Santa Ana, too. I love Santa Ana. So, that's where my grandparents... Bristol Street, man. Yeah, Bristol. And we had an appliance store on Main Street. Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah. And that's... My mom had a midwife, like a midwifery nursing birth center. She had a birth center in Orange County. Okay. In Orange Circle. Orange Circle, yeah. For sure. In Orange. Yeah. Yeah. And then my dad had saddleback pools. It was out of Tustin, Orange County. Oh, wow. And then my brother... My brother lives in San Clemente. Brent, my oldest brother. He's cool. Awesome, man. Now, when was the first time you stepped on a board and committed to the sport? What year was that? Probably... Probably... I don't know. It's the late 70s. What was your home park, would you say? Flower Street. Flower Street? Big O. Big O. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I need to clear my throat a lot. Yeah? A lot? Really? I'm so sorry. Yeah. Don't worry about it. It's fine. Clearing throats is great. Oh, the water. No. If I drink water, I'm going to wet the bed. You're going to wet the bed? Yeah. That's okay. That's okay. You know what? I don't want to hydrate. Okay. Let's talk the fall book ramp. Okay. You have a lot of video parts on that. Now, how often would you skate that ramp back in the day? I would just go there whenever the mood felt right. Probably every day. Who owned that ramp? I don't know. I don't know. This kid, Tobin. Tobin? Yeah. He was cool. His dad was really cool. I think his dad built the ramp. Okay. It was fun. We used to drive out there and meet my friend Steve Clare there. It was really, you know, I was like 18, 17 or 18. So, that was, yeah, that was fun. What were the specs on that? Like how high was it? How wide was it? I have no idea. I don't even know. I would just show up. You just tore it up. I have no idea. It was pretty big. I think. It wasn't anything like it is nowadays. It was probably now it would be considered a mini ramp, but it was. Like 12, 11? I don't even know. It was just so fun though. Anything bigger than that was just, I wasn't, I wouldn't be prepared for. How about your favorite trick to do on that ramp? What? Trick? Yeah, on that ramp. Just dropping in was great. Just dropping in was fun enough? Yeah. We would, yeah, it was just, that was, that was super fun. Yeah. I mean. It was fun. It was fun. It was fun. It was fun. It was fun. All the videos, I mean, have documented you taking these runs and just blasting. I don't even know what I was doing. I'd fall asleep. I would just go to sleep. I would drop in. Just let it go? Yeah, I would just, I don't even remember. Hey, you know, I heard a rumor that when the Streets of Fire video was filmed, the parts of you in jail, that was in East LA somewhere. Yeah, that's correct. Really? We filmed it in one, one, one day. I think I'm going to immediately, like if I hear this live or if I hear this. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to be like, why did I say any of that? You're going to go back and say, can we do it again? Heck, is it? What? Yeah, yeah. What is wrong with me? I just total, total, I must have ate too much chili cheese dogs. Chili cheese dogs? Yeah, in my, when I was younger. Oh, when you were younger. Not, not, not, not, not today. I don't know what. No, no. I just been, I just took a shot of ginger earlier and that was it. Dude, you're all healthy. No. I love it. Barely. You're barely. Barely right now. Yeah. You look great at your age. Hey, thanks. I know. I'm like 29 years old. Yeah, I was going to say you're 21, right? 29. 29. No, I'm actually just a little bit younger than Steve Olsen. He's a little bit older than me. He's a tad older, right? Yeah, he's a shit though. I love Steve. He is a shit. Yeah, next week is the 11th. We're, we're, he's got his birthday. Everyone meets and we go dirt bike riding. That's killer. Yeah. You know what? Going back to the, the Streets of Fire. I want to talk about the past and I'm bringing up relevant, but one thing I want to talk about is that jail scene. Cause I was like, you know. installed into that skate video. And like a lot of kids growing up would be like, watch that and like recite your, your lines out on the streets. I would recite my lines. He would. Cause I would only. All the Groms, you know, all the Groms would. Yeah. I would only communicate with things that I've said on video. From, from those days on, I'd be like, okay, no, I have no idea. But yeah, we, it was fun. The LA, we filmed all that in one day. The, the jail scene, everyone's like noticed. Everyone, that whole like skip was there. Yeah. all from five in the morning to like 10 at night. And then, and I was like, I think I was 16. You were 16? I was 16 years old. Yeah. Cause I just had got my license and I drove up there five in the morning. And that was early. It was in East LA at a police station? No, at the jail. It was a county jail. Yeah. No, it was a bigger, it was like a, it was a big county jail. It was Twin Towers? Maybe. LA County? Yeah. It was abandoned and it was, it was LA, East LA. Wow. I had no idea. It was cool. So, hey, let's talk about where you, where you get your Pendletons at. Oh, well. Let's name, check the place. Yeah. The only, okay. The only place to get your Pendletons would be Greenspans. Right. And since I wish I was born in the twenties, I would be going there ever since then. But I went there, I used to go there. The first time I went there was with, with Mark Gonzalez. He showed you? And Mike Gonzalez. Yeah. Oh, okay. Mark grew up in Southgate. Yep. Southgate. The house he, the house he grew up in, he's, his mom lives in. Still there, right? Still, yeah. And there's a skate park in the park across the street. And, you know, Southgate's responsible for Mark Gonzalez, Slayer, and Cypress Hill. Okay. Three pretty cool components. Yeah, yeah. He, okay, so wait. I'm sorry to interrupt. No, I did not mean to interrupt you. That's so rude. No, no, no. That's rude and I don't want to be rude. No, no, no. You're a good person. Oh, thank you. Hey. Chris, what's up? How are you? You're, you brought a wingman, right? Yeah, Chris, because. Chris. The Pawnee is. What's up, man? Thanks for joining us. He's. Hi, how are you? Look at this drink I got. Look, that's a really big drink. Look at. It's like a sundae. We're on audio and video right now. I wish I had longer hair, you guys. Nervous. Both of you guys have nice. No, I'm not. Nice growing my hair out. I'm growing my hair out. You're going to grow your hair out because of us? Yes, I am. Correct. Hey, Chris, thanks for joining us. Yeah, thank you. Tell me about Slayer. Okay, Slayer played at Mark Gonzalez's high school at lunchtime and they weren't called Slayer. Oh, yeah. What were they called before Slayer? Oh, shit. I don't know. Hopefully, someone could call us at 800-893-9562 and tell us what Slayer was called. But, you know what? Didn't they steal something from a cemetery around there? Yeah, and I think the Southgate High Annual, if you look at it, because I just saw a friend's. Hopefully. Like, they played lunchtime and Tom Ryan's wearing like totally short, short, white, OP corduroy shorts. He still has those. And they're playing nothing but Beatles songs. No way, really? Yeah. In white corduroy shorts. White corduroy shorts. OP shorts. What if nobody called today? They're just like, you know what? Those two guys are not. We're not. Don't call. Don't call. Nobody calls. Can we do some fake phone calls? Okay, look it. Look it. Can we have a second? Wait, are we going to, are you going to a break right now? No, no, no. We're going to take a caller, actually. Oh, okay. Oh, there's a caller. Okay, put your headphones on. Oh, shit. Okay. Oh, sorry. Okay, you're on the air with Los Angeles, Nista, Chris Pontius, and Jason Jesse. Awesome. Who's this? It's Andrew from Orange, California. What's up, Andrew? Oh, not much, man. I had a question for Jason. Okie dokie. I wasn't old enough. I grew up in Orange, but I was not old enough to actually get to skate the big old skate park. But I was curious, Jason, what were some other spots that you skated? Like, did you use, I know you used to skate like Lloyd's Bank, but I was just curious if you ever skated, like, I heard there was this park out in Irvine that was like a snake run back in like the late 70s, maybe, and it got torn down in like the early 80s. But I was wondering. Did you ever skate at that? Yeah, the, oh my God, my voice sounds really different. Do you want to just call the whole thing off? Yeah. No, no. Yeah, that was a concrete wave. And my brothers took me there. Were those your own stomping grounds? Well, kind of. The concrete wave was close to my house. Oh, cool. Yeah, that was really fun, actually. Yeah, I've only seen videos of it. And I mean, it sucked kind of growing up when I did because all that stuff was already gone. But I, you know, it was like the mythical, like, legend. There's stuff you'd hear about. But the skate park is now a strip club. Yeah. It's bottomless. Bottomless. Yeah. Bottomless. Yeah. So that means he's served beer. Well, no, they, they wear double extra large T-shirts with belts. So what's going on in Orange County, man? The Orange Crown. Oh, man, not much. I actually live up in Oakland now. But have you been to the why I do it yourself spot in Oakland? Where Raven Torshagos? Yeah, I actually, I haven't skated it, but I went through it when they were building it. Yeah, that place is amazing. You've come up and skated it? Yeah, yeah. I live up in that area. Yeah. Now. But it's, yeah, super good. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I haven't skated it yet. Just got to see it when they were building it. But yeah, it looks really fun. I want to go back to school and learn how to talk properly. Totally. I feel like I don't know how to talk and it sounds amply. Bro, thanks for the call, man. Yeah. I appreciate it. Yeah, thanks, guys. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Thank you. Call me back later. Okay, so as we're talking about, Greenspans. Yeah, okay. Can I take these off? Yeah, yeah, you can take those off. Oh, my God. I don't like them either. Normal? Take those things off. Weird stuff, right? Well, it's just hard to get used to. It's been taking another 19 years. So, how long have you been going to Greenspans for? Because that's like an L.A., you know, like an L.A. institution to get your Pendletons and your hats. Yeah, yeah. That's the first place. That's... Mark Mahoney sent me there. He knew. When I was like 18, he's like, you're going to want to get suited up here. So, he sent us... So, Ben Davis, Dickies. But back then, Dickies and Ben Davis weren't available everywhere. No. Right? Yeah, no, no. So, you could get them, but I told Mark I was getting married, and I was maybe... No, wait a minute. I take that back. The first time I went there was with Mark and Mike. So, then... And then, we just bought Pendletons. And then, it was amazing. I was terrified, too. You were terrified to go in there? Oh, yeah. At first? It wasn't... Back in the 90s. Well, back in the 90s, Southview was a bad area. Yeah, it was in the late 80s. Oh, late 80s, dude. It was actually really sketchy. I didn't like it. And Mark loved it. And then, his brother, Mike, was a little more... Mike was a coward. No, no. Mike was tougher. Mike was really tough. Mike Gonzalez? Mike Gonzalez, he ruled. He ruled. He ruled. He ruled. He ruled. Yeah, he's tough. Yes. Who... Have you ever had a guest on here? Like, maybe, like, they were a famous person. They were a jerk. Yeah. Can I cuss? You can totally cuss. Well, I'm not going to really cuss, but, like, a dick? Who was the biggest dick? Yeah. You know what? Everyone's been super sweet and nice. No one was mean. No one was mean. Because they get in here... Because you get them in here, and you take them out of their element, and they're scared. We've got AFI in here, Alkaline Trio, Send Off from Cypress Hill. You know, Alva's been in here twice. Was Alva mean at all? Cossack wee man? Uh, no. Because Alva on the streets is... Hey, man, on the streets of Dogtown, bro. Yeah, he's mean. But I like Tony. He's cool. Yeah. I don't know if he likes me, but I love that guy. Really? Yeah. No, I don't know. I've never... I just... I opened the door for him a few times. I love Tony. Yeah, he's just shit. Like, whatever. Dude, so... Him and Jay. I don't know. I'll go around. So, as far as the Pendletons and Greenspans, are they the total hats? Yeah, those fucking love Greenspans. I mean, that's the best selection, man. Dude, you cannot beat it. You can get everything the rest of your life there. You don't ever need... You can be shunned from society and just go there and dress yourself. Are you from Southgate? Dressed to impress? No, I'm from Whittier, Pico Rivera area. Pico Rivera's badass. Yeah. My mom and dad are from there, too. Did you know them? Pico? Pico Rivera? No, Whittier. Whittier? Really? Whittier's big, though, huh? Yeah, it's a big city. Maybe... Yeah, you might have seen them around. Go on, guys. Sorry. Now, okay, so you know Pico Rivera? Yeah. He's really cool, yeah. He's really cool? No, yeah. Pio Pico. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Pico Rivera. He's cool. I know a Rivera, actually, but... Jose Luis Rivera. Well, yeah, and... I gotta ask you. I gotta ask you. Before motorcycles became above the surface again, like younger people having them and racing them around, you were always on a motorcycle. Okay, wait, let me ask you something. Yeah. From where you're sitting, does it look like I have a clown nose on? It's not... It's not there, because look at... Because it's just a... Look at... Yeah, it's like home of the clown. What? Right? Okay, go on. What do you think of Edward James Olmos? Is a... Are you Mexican? Yeah. What do you think of... Do you think he's bullshit playing... Like the Mexican mafia and all that stuff? I don't know what the word... Yeah. Well, I think that he's actually... I think that Edward James Olmos is filling a void in the industry, because I don't know what the word... Because obviously no one's talked about it until him. You know, all the jail gangs and shit like that, and the way it operates. Yeah. Once you get in, it's a different situation. Yeah. It's like all the gangs unite. It's regional. I won't even comment on that. It's Thudaniels and Northdaniels and all that stuff. Comment on that. Or American Me. Or American Me. How many we changed history. Yeah, yeah. But I think... I don't think he's full of shit. No way. I think he filled a void when it needed to be done. But I don't think his recent work... He doesn't have much recent work, right? No. Yeah. Yeah. No. He's legit. No. Stand and deliver, I think, is a great... You think he's a middle man between the white man and the brown man? Is that what you're saying? No. I just think he's full of bullshit. He's trying to get me. I got a big bullseye right in front of me, right? No, that's what I have. You have the clown nose. Yeah. My neighbor went out with his son. She was engaged. Wait, did he play congas? I don't like... Probably. Did he play congas? Yeah, I don't like to say that. He was on Battlescore Galactica. Battlescore Galactica. Mexican congas. Yeah. But then she caught him looking at porn on the internet and she got mad. Did you have to stop at him? People do get mad. That's their first initial. He had a porno pen pal. Oh, boy. And he said really dirty things. And she read it all. Was she bummed out? Yeah, they were engaged. God, I shouldn't be saying all this private stuff on the radio. No, that's okay. They were engaged and everything. Maybe he was... The way I heard it, it was like he was cheating. Through the internet. Yeah. He learned it from his dad, though. He learned how to cheat. All of a sudden, Edward James Olmos is in the house. Whoa, wait a minute. Now, but come on. American Me, that's a good movie. Yeah. I'm not saying cheating is good or bad. Well, however... But that's what it's called. That's what it's called. Now, as far as American Me goes, I mean... Womanizer. Which one? Who? Him or his son? Both of them. Both of them. You know, to be completely honest, I mean, everyone connected with it. Because everyone had... Yeah, people. People in jail. People in jail from the streets, right? Yeah. I don't like to talk about this, but yeah. That movie caused some harm. Did it? Well, no. I mean, people got hurt. People in the movie got hurt. I liked the bald guy. Yeah. J.R. J.D. Yeah. He was the shit. The best scene was the slow motion and then the gunshot when they're playing handball and they go from kids... Cholo handball. Yeah. I play handball. They go from kids. Remember when we played handball? Yeah. Yeah, we did. We actually played... You guys want to start a Cholo handball league and challenge everybody? Well, we already started it. You guys are doing it already? Yeah, we already did. Yeah. We already started it. Cholo handball, right? Uh-huh. Yeah, he's a member of a club. Yeah. Handball club? Yep. Are you serious? What's it called? The Dolphin Swimming and Rowing Club in San Francisco. Yeah, yeah. We're going to talk about the rowing. They still do handball tournaments. They do. With South End Club in San Francisco and they've been doing it since 1874. I got another influential movie that's even more influential than Stand and Deliver. Colors. Okay, I haven't seen any of those. You haven't seen any of those? You haven't seen any of those? You haven't seen any of those? I haven't seen either of those. I have not seen. I'm not familiar. Chris, you've seen Colors, right? Yeah, like that naked lady that when they arrested that- At the very end? Of course it's Thursday. The naked Mexican lady when I think they arrested somebody and she was there and she just comes out in handcuffs, like nothing, just boobs and vagina. Wait, that really happened? Yeah. They handcuffed her? Maybe they arrested- Why would they do that? Maybe the fat guy. Oh, so. Maybe it was him. I can't remember. I've never seen it. I remember. I remember. You saw this lady. Not the one lady. Remember they shot the one guy in the back? Yeah. They was having sex and he thought he was going for a gun? T-bone, yeah, yeah. At the very end. He's like, you shot it. You killed a man, mister, for reaching for his pants. Exactly. They actually said the pants. He was reaching for his pants, but the guy thought it was a gun. But that wasn't, and there was a naked lady with him too, but that wasn't the one that I remembered. I liked that one that was arrested. She's pretty, huh? Totally. Totally. Have you had her on the show? No. Let's get on the show. You know her agent's number? I don't. He might. He might. I don't know. I don't know her. I never had a special agent. But you know what? But to be honest with you, I think that Colors, I mean, the weekend I came out, when everyone came back to school Monday, everyone was out of skateboarding and in gangs. So that's the most influential. Oh, I've never even seen it. I swear to God. Really? You've never seen it? Yeah, I've never seen it. Never seen it? Uh-uh. I've never even seen the Twin Towers go down. Dude. I'm not kidding. I never watched it. You refuse? I just didn't have TV at the time. I want to see it now, but I... You're ahead of the curve, man. No, I won't. Most people are just getting rid of their TV. No. No, I want to get a TV. Now. You were just at Lucasfilm doing that commercial for Santa Cruz. Yeah, I met George Michaels. You met George Michaels? Yeah, George Michaels was there. What was he doing there? He owns it, right? George Lucas. George Lucas? George Michael? No. For Wham? Well, I met someone named George and I was like... Do you like Wham, Chris? That's like Michael Myers and Mike Myers. Yeah. I met... Totally different people. The guy in the mask is the guy in all the funny movies, right? Yeah. Yeah, he's hilarious. So, yeah, I met George and I was like, you know that song, Faith? That's a powerful song. And he's like, I know. I was like, I never liked it, but it was powerful. But I didn't own the 45, but my friend did and we had listened to it and I was like, that's powerful. And he's like, I know. And then that was it. But yeah, that was at Star Wars, I guess. I never got into Star Wars. I never saw that movie either. I want to watch it. I want to see it. You want to see it? Yeah, yeah. Was Andrew Wrigley there? I have no idea who that is. What did that guy in Wham do? Oh, that's the other guy? Yeah. See, I have no idea who that is. He only bossed George Michael around. Maybe he was the top. He was the boss, right? Yeah. Maybe he was the top. George Michael was the bottom. Are they still friends? No, I doubt it. But I know Thomas Campbell was surfing in Portugal and he saw Andrew Wrigley out there. No way. He just surfed now. This was years ago. I wonder what kind of style he had. He said he was pretty tan. Bad style, probably. Bad, of course, yeah. Andrew Wrigley pushed, because George Michael was originally more of a rapper. Do you think he pushed him into waves? Oh, yeah. Wait, George Michael was a rapper? More of a rap, yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is kind of like right when rap was sort of starting, I guess. Especially in England, huh? Pretty good raps. George Michael got... Andrew wanted him to write more like top 40 songs, just hits. Yeah. And he's pushing George to write like, you know, all those ones, Wake Me Up Before You Go. Yeah, right. And, you know, just commercial hits. And he's using them. He's using George Michael for everything, you know? George... Wait, Wrigley was... Wrigley was the boss. He wasn't doing anything in the band, really. Nothing. He would have George Michael write the songs. George Michael would be like the face of the band. And he'd fuck George Michael. No way. That's the truth, right? Yeah. There you go. Poor George. I think, yeah. No one puts it like that, but that's the truth. That's the truth. Yeah. So he was on top and George was at the bottom. George's power bottom. Power bottom. Not even... Not just bottom. No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just heard that term on some... Some show I liked it. I don't know if he was a power... I don't know. I don't know. What would the other... His power forward... In basketball, what is that? Power forward? What's the other kind of forward? You know, when I look at you, I look at a well-traveled man who's shot movies in India and... Oh, God, yeah. Africa with Jackass and Wild Boys and all that. Where haven't you gone? It didn't teach me anything, all that traveling. It just made me more ignorant. And not only a video game. I'm looking for... I'm looking for... I'm looking for a picture to show you, by the way, just to let you know. Oh, okay. We've been texting back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. Eddie's so cute. That's what we're writing. You think? How many guns do you own? I don't... What? That's... Who would... Who could say that? Who could answer that? I don't... I only own... I brought a bunch of knives. He did, actually. What is that one gun that you own? I own... I have a registered, legal, registered AR-15. And when the... And it's a Colt Sporter. At 223. I've had it for 25 years or something. And the FBI asked me, why do you have this... Why do you have this manual with me? With you? On the airplane. I'm like, oh, I just found it. Blah, blah. And they're like... Look at all those knives he brought. Okay. I'm not even going to finish my... Are we going to Southgate? I'm not even going to finish this. Are you going to Southgate? No, I don't have any knives there. We don't need knives there. But I just wanted to... I just have... I went to Cold Steel showroom in the... In the... In the... There's a knife company in Ventura. They have this showroom that I didn't know. And so I went there because I wanted a new machete. And I got all these rad knives. They're pretty amazing. Yeah, yeah. Hold them up against... Right here. You hold them up. I'm not going to put my fingerprints on them because we're going to use them later. Are you going to use them? Well, we might have to. Yeah. Self-defense. Look at that. We're going to go on the subway. That one's rad. That one's called the Marauder. That one, I like that one a lot. That's a good car. I had no idea you were a knife enthusiast. That's a Mercury car. Knife enthusiast. That's killer. When people are handing them to you, you got to be a knife enthusiast when they're just like... Yeah. This is Manny's signature knife. That's the best knife ever. You know, Manny, the Tarzan guy that I film with sometimes with the long hair? It's his... That's his model. Oh, shit. Like a pro model. That's his pro model? Yeah. Wouldn't that be rad if you did something where you have a pro model knife? Pro model knife. Dude, look at that. I like how there's a shark engraved. Look at that shark. He's the shark man. This is... That's a... Whatever, push knife. I like those. That one... That's really what you need. I think those are the best knives to have. I'm calling in. You're calling in? Yeah. I saw that one over there. Let's talk about knives. Do you ever get in an argument with your girlfriend or your mom or your dad and you're like, fuck, and you just go off and you walk around at night and you just want someone to like... To like... Come and give you trouble so you can fight them? That's what those knives are all about. No. This one is about that. That one's not. That one's about... This one is to look cool on TV. On TV, right? Yeah. You're not going to use it on anything. Yeah. It's really just to look cool. How long have you been collecting knives and using them? I got all these in about one day. One day? Yeah. That's funny, man. So, yeah. As far as your... Look at this. How can you hear that? Crap. Really? I wanted to call in and talk to me. I wanted to finish the story that I'm so rude to you. You should walk out the door and call. No, I... You should use this effect for your band. Yeah. I called it. It's an effect. It's delay effect. You'd be like, you too. She looked at me. She asked, are you calling in? And then she left. She disappeared. Just hang up. Just hang up on us. Chris, how long have you been playing guitar, man? You've been playing guitar for a while. You've been playing guitar for a while, right? Yeah, but... I'll never be good at it. Yeah, yeah. For a long time. But I don't always play. But I have... I've had guitars for a long time. No, no. I don't know. Like, yeah. I don't know. Since whenever... How old... When did we get... Guitar... How old... Fuck. 14. Yeah. Yeah. Whenever everyone starts to be a guitar player or a bass player... I was 14. Yeah, I got a lot of guitars, though. You do? Yep. What's your favorite guitar? Well, like... Like, is there a favorite manufacturer? No. I think they all do something wrong a little bit. I always change them. But I got this really rad Yamaha guitar the other day that's from the 60s that they only made a few hundred. It's like the one Link Ray played. Okay. It's really, really rad. That's rad. And it's really rad. And it... Yeah, it's... I can tell every time people... If you play it, you're like, wow. You know what I love? This is the first time there's been huge knives. Yeah. And the first time there's been cheese. Yeah, right here. At the same time. And this is the first time that maybe Nick Blinko will call in. Nick Blinko. Was Danzig ever on the show? Here. No. Why not? Not yet. I don't know. I mean, we just really haven't... Don't you hang around in a circle? Yeah. What if Robert Gordon called in? Robert Gordon? Because he heard the Link Ray guitars. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right. We're going to take our first music break. Thank you, you guys. I thought this would never come. I'm like, what? We're going to whip out the knives and the easy cheese cheddar. Yeah. I don't even eat crackers. And we'll be right back. We just jazz our face up with it. We'll be right back. Keep the children occupied after school. Got a mask to deploy them to do. When they come home, nobody's around. Keep them occupied after school. We're going to take our first music break. Keep the children occupied after school. Never ever Get the children occupied After school Gotta find something for them To do When they come home Nobody's around We gotta get them occupied After school Gotta find something for them To do Occupied I got used to making mistakes I got used to making mistakes I got used to making mistakes I tolerated phonies and fakes I opened myself up And let myself down I gave them the rope And now I'm hanging around Hanging around Like a fucking piñata Must be open And you'll find nothing Hanging around A puppet on a string Slice me open You'll find nothing Hanging around I'm just hanging around Hanging around I'm just hanging around Hanging around Like a fucking piñata Must be open And you'll find nothing Hanging around A puppet on a string Slice me open You'll find nothing Hanging around Just hanging around Hanging around Just hanging around Just hanging around Just hanging around Just hanging around Just hanging around Just hanging around Stupid is as stupid says Fool me once, water under the bridge Fool me twice and I'm the fool Fool me three times, man, fuck you Hanging around like a fucking piñata Must be open and you'll find nothing Hanging around, a puppet on a string Slice me open, you'll find nothing Hanging around, I'm just hanging around Hanging around, I'm just hanging around Hanging around, I'm just hanging around Hanging around, I'm just hanging around Hanging round, hanging round Hanging round, hanging round California, California's not an empty Amazon California, California's not an empty Amazon California, California's not an empty Amazon California, California's not an empty Amazon California, California's not an empty Amazon California, California's not an empty Amazon California, California's not, it's Japanese California, California's not, it's Japanese California, California's not, it's Japanese California, California's not California, California, California, California's not California, California, California, California's not And I can't get my shit I guess hope springs eternal In idiots like me I loaded my car And I put my good selfs out to sea The handshakes mean nothing And the best word is to slide I can't believe I went along for the ride Knife in the face When I was down and out Knife in the face It left no doubt Knife in the face This is reality Knife in the face That's what you think of me See? Friends are just roles We choose to occupy Splits on the radar Passing in the night And all of the good times They're only in bad And all of the laughter It always turns sad You lied The handshakes mean nothing And the best word is to slide I can't believe I went along for the ride All the way Knife in the face When I was down and out Knife in the face It left no doubt Knife in the face This is reality Knife in the face That's what you think of me It's the sound Of a broken heart I buried my soul And I had it ripped apart This is the sound Of shattered dreams They flew too high And above their means And all of those knives That were buried in my back Not one of them Could stop me in my tracks But the knife that got me That put me in my place Is the one that you stuck Right in my fucking face Knife in the face Knife in the face Knife in the face Knife in the face Knife in the face Your handshakes mean nothing And a man's word is just lie I can't believe I went along for the ride The ride Yeah, well, I'm not sure I want to ride Just you and me, man We're gonna go down that highway together We're like a dynamic duo It's like Batman and Robin Or Superman and Superdog Which one were you? Which one am I? Oh, yeah I'm a fucking fool You're a fucking liar Knife in the face Knife in the face Knife in the face Knife in the face Bridges are burning I just watched them burn Another one down, man When will I learn? When will I give up? When will I quit? Opening my life up To other people's shit A hand takes me nothing And a man's word is just lie I can't believe I went along for the ride Knife in the face When I was down and out Knife in the face It left no doubt Knife in the face This is reality Knife in the face That's what you think of me That's what you think of me Knife in the face Knife in the face Knife in the face Knife in the face Knife in the face Knife in the face Hello, I'm Isabel Rojas-Williams with the Mural Conservancy of Los Angeles. You're listening to LA Nista at skidroadstudio.com. This episode of Los Angeles Nista is brought to you by Lama Scotta Bakery. A family-owned business serving the community since 1952. Tamales and sweetbread. 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What's your history for? Which one is your math book? Which one is your history book? Which one is your English book? Which one is your science book? Sharing is not calling Sharing is not calling Which one is your math book? Which one is your English book? Which one is your science book? Which one is your history book? Where is your math book? Where is your English book? Where is your history book? Where is your science book? Sharing Sharing is not calling Sharing Is not calling Calling, calling We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Well actually yeah But all of our Chevys are in Japan now So that's okay What about yours? No they're in the garage What years you got? Just boring 60 Chevy that I bought From my friend It's pretty lowered and tricked out You got the rims on it It's not tricked but I mean it's vintage low Yeah no it's You know Supremes, Astro Terms that a lot of laymen Wouldn't understand Astro Supremes, Premium Sportways PCP What not If you're cruising on a low rider And smoking PCP then anything can happen Anything and you're amazingly strong How can everyone try to stop cars Naked when they're on PCP? Because they can Party boy? Do you see these microphones that we're talking on? Well we're talking on these ones And then I noticed these mics that we're not talking on That mic It's It's affectionately known as Donkey Dick mic Really? Did you know that? No It's an EVRE20 But it's like a broadcast mic These are always in radio places but they call it the donkey dick That's my favorite microphone I don't like talking on this one I want to be talking on that one Is it the same thing? Will it work? They record a lot of my favorite albums on this mic Nice Like which ones? There's this one Clash album they recorded on it Coincidentally I didn't know that but I read There's like all these albums and they brought the titles up And there was like three that I really liked That happened to be recorded on it And that's not really common Recording these albums on the donkey dick mic On donkey dick mics yeah It makes a great If you're ever going to make another record You might want to try it out Because it worked for like Joe Strummer It worked for those guys right? Bob Dylan? I think he used that Probably my favorite one It's probably my favorite Bob Dylan album And then this other really good album I can't remember They used the donkey dick And look it looks rad One time we were doing these interviews And there was this black girl And she was really horny And I was talking about the donkey dick mic You had to talk into the mic for us to hear you Luckily I didn't go to the thing But Dave England and I ended up sitting by her You had to talk into a mic to hear you Oh I'm sorry I wanted to talk into the donkey dick mic That's why I put my head over there He keeps staring at it You know what? Usually you say to me I can't tell a story It's not about me It's about a friend of mine And actually nothing happened But if it was me It wouldn't have been like that I would have been slutty You're a great man You're so full of information And knives Information Information society I felt safe coming up here Do you have any ninja stars on you? We don't need those You don't need those anymore on Is that a thing of the past? Yeah he has Yeah Yeah! Hammerhead Hammerhead Yeah because the head is bigger I mean it's not like deformed But the head is bigger than Than like Let's say like If I was like Going to be like Come on baby Let's Let me put it in door number two It would Like The most painful part would be At the beginning Like so So that idea Warhammer Is not like on the table But yeah So I I don't know Some basic basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic Some basic basic basic But I'm pretty sure I was retaining a lot of water. Do you know any girls that have cankles? Four different girls, and I quit talking to them. I know two. Do you still talk to them? I don't really see them, but if I did see them, no. That's the first place I look, I'm like, oh. My brother's like that too. If there was a thing that would kill it for you with a girl, it would be that. That would be the thing that would make her ugliest. I wouldn't care. Actually, it would make me more happy. It would make me more, I'd want to make her feel good to make her not feel ugly. You'd go out of your way to make her feel special. Yeah, I would. Because of the cankles. Yeah, I'd want to make her forget about her cankles. That's thoughtful and considerate. You're a good person. And I like that. I just get nervous around them. God. Because I want to talk about it. I'm like, man, what should we do about that? Is there a remedy? I keep just looking at that donkey dick mic. Me too. Why didn't you guys set us up with that? You want donkey dicks in front of your mouth? Can we reshoot that? Yeah, if we start it over. Yeah, let's start everything over. Seriously. There'll be more food delivered, knives, more knives. Yeah, yeah. And bazookas. So, I got to know, what's the worst you've been hurt filming something for Dick House? I mean, because you do a lot of risky stuff. Have you ever gotten hurt? Nah. No? Have you ever been scared of a sheep? No, I got hurt. Well, I got hurt in pain. But, I mean, probably not any more hurt than people getting rid of their life. But, no, I did get, there's one thing that is, it's a kind of ant, and they did this like rite of passage thing. It's like a, it's an Amazon Brazil thing that you put this glove on, and it's got all these ants that are like, they're woven into it. And they're called Tucangero ants, and they're bullet ants. And they sting you, and you got to wear this glove for like, you know, like eight minutes or however long the song is. So, this like, chief is singing. And then, you know, this poison goes into you, and then you're just, I didn't know how bad it was. But, anyway, like, it sucks when they're stinging you, but then you're poisoned for like 24 hours, and it's like the most intense pain ever. And that's, that was way worse than anything else I've ever, ever pained. And it was like, like, you know, you want to saw your arm off, literally. And nothing will make it better. Nothing. Like, like, it'd be better to stick it like a spiky baseball bat up your ass. Yeah. Than get this. It's crazy. It's like, it's like, um, in, um, that horror movie, um, Evil Dead 2. Evil Dead 2. When the devil, or the demon gets in his arm, it's like that. Would you put it, would you do it again? If, yeah, no, no, I wouldn't. I mean, I did it. If I hadn't done it, it's, I was, because everyone always says like, oh, you guys are going to get fucked up. It's just going to hurt so bad. And they don't know. And so, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then this one really was bad. And me and Steve-O were both, we both did it. And it was like, it was between, but he did a second. So all the poison was gone. So he didn't get, get fucked up from it. But, um, it probably hurt like when they were sticking, sticking him, but there was no poison left. But, but, um, I, I'd been stung like once by one in a different, in a different time. And it was like, it sucked for like an hour. Like, I was really bummed. And, but then this was like hundreds. And, but, um, I didn't, it was either like get all the poison. I shared needles with the other guy. And I didn't want to share needles with him. Um, yeah. So I got, I did the ants. But, um, yeah, it was bad. It was horrible. Yeah. And poison doesn't really translate. I mean, it translates to a point. But yeah, that was the worst thing. That's, that's the worst period for. Oh, that's the, that's the worst pain of anything I've ever had. But a hundred times worse than anything else. Really? How long have you guys been together? Nothing else compares. You guys used to smoke PCP together, right? Me and Chris? Yeah. We've never. We've known each other since Thrasher Thones. Yeah. Since Thrasher Thone five, maybe. Yeah. 86 or something? Yeah. 86. Actually, yeah. The first time, you know, the first time I met Jason, he, um, I was like, um, the skate camp was in my town. And, um, he, um, I think it was like probably right when you turned pro, you were, he was there like, cause all they bring different pros in. And then there was like a skate shop that like a local shop had like at the, I wasn't like the skate camp was in my town. So anyway, I'd hang out there and skate and stuff. And, and, um, they had a shop for the campers and stuff. It was like in these dorms and they, they had like all the pros that like staying in dorm rooms at this college. And so I was in this shop or whatever, talking to a kid or something or looking at a skateboard and Jason comes in and he's like, Hey, this shop sucks. There's a better, way better shop down the hall. And he's like, and then, um, he like takes like a bunch of the kids down the hall and there's like a sign that said skate shop, like that he made on his room and he had like his room. And then he had his room turned into a skate shop with all this stuff. And he was, he was like pulling customers out of there. And this was all pre jackass, of course. This is pre teens. It was, that's when I was 12. Prom days, right? I was 12 for sure. Yeah, this is pre teens. So you've been chewing tobacco for a while? That was the first time I met him. He just started chewing today. Yeah. Chew, right? It was an impulse buy. Yeah, it was an impulse buy. Impulse buy. Yeah. I was like, do it. $7.99. I've always wanted to try this. It was on sale. It was like two, it was, yeah, if you bought two, there were six. So I have two cans. And yeah, I'm going to chew. He's going to chew every last bit of it. I haven't started yet. I was going to just start later. He can pack, he packs it though. I pack it. Which I can't do. So I just. Did you guys bring any kook repellent? No, kook repellent. Remember that? Remember that? From Run Man? How do you know about that? That's amazing. I still have some. Yeah, I do. I have two cans though. It's silly string with a sticker. It's incredible. Drew Steele and Ray Kleinman actually made it, but. You know Drew Steele and Dennis Dragon? Yeah, dude, surf punks. Yeah, exactly. I have a question. In the Run Man, I get, maybe it was 69 one, when the two guys are, the guy poos on the guy's car. Yeah, yeah. Who, and then they get in a fight. Who is, who are those people fighting? I'm not sure, but Christian Fletcher was there egging him on. Yeah. He was. He wasn't one of the guys poos. No, no, no. He was, he was an antagonist. I wasn't sure if one of them was him. No. Two local Malibu dudes or something. Oh, okay. And they were real fired up. And Christian, they were egging. But they knew each other. Yeah, yeah. They were mad. Were they friends at all before that? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. And, and who won the guy that, I think the guy that did the pooing won. Yeah, because he, he felt better. Yeah. He felt better. He got rid of the poisons in his body. Yeah. Yeah. His body rejected it onto the hood of somebody else's car. It wasn't his car. And so then, he left satisfied. For those who don't know, it's the surf video. And there's, there's a, out in front of some surf spot, there's a car. And this one guy goes and he poos on the guy's car. And, and then the other guy comes in from surfing. And he sees the guy pooing on his car and they get in a fight. And the guy that pooed kicks his ass. Pretty much kicks his ass. Yeah. Yeah. Even if the guy that pooed got his ass kicked, he'd still like. Win. It wouldn't have mattered. No, it's like Gigi Allen bringing his own makeup. Yeah. Yeah. But he also won. Yeah. He probably felt bad. Maybe not. No, he couldn't have. Because he's. No. No one brings up kook repellent to you, huh? No, that was amazing. Because you're stoked. You're like, whoa. I have two cans. And I always wondered like, what is it? Oh, it's silly string. It's silly string. Do you ever use it? Yeah. One's almost empty. And the other one feels about as heavy as this easy cheese. There's a can here on the table. You should make Jason Jesse kook repellent, man. Make it available at skate shops. Or give it to people and they could spray me. Spray. I would be the kook in their town. Hey, Chris. So I'm sure there's people from all walks of life listening to this. How did Jackass start? Tell them. Quick backstory. I know. No, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. It was. It was. This. When we tried out. We heard the sauce add in the paper and we tried out. I saw a flyer at Guitar Center. There's no way. You saw a flyer at Guitar Center? No. It was. It was from this magazine that we all worked for called Big Brother that we worked for for like 10 years or something like. And we made skate videos. And then in between it was our dumb shit. And then. But we wanted to eventually not have to have the skating anymore. Just dumb shit. But. Or I don't know if that was something we thought about. I thought about it a little bit. But. And eventually. Then we got bought by like Larry Flynn. That made us like kind of near Hollywood. And it just evolved after overall. All that time. You know. Into. You know. Not being a magazine anymore. And being a TV show. I mean. MTV and all that. Yeah. It just. It. They made a pilot. And then. And then it ended up doing well. It was really. Unexpected. But it took a long time. Took a while. And the magazine. You know. Was like something you did because you liked it. It wasn't like a. It was. And people in skateboarding. I was like. Really liked us anyway. Like. We had the first premiere of one of our videos. No one was there. A lot of people didn't like us. In the beginning. Certainly didn't like me. I mean. Yeah. Yeah. I had a lot of enemies. Have a lot of enemies. Really? Yeah. Is that what you have on your knives? No. I don't. I never really did. But you're chewing tobacco on your knives. Are you kidding me? Let's see another caller. Let's see another caller. Uh oh. Oh boy. Oh there's a caller. Hello? Yeah. What's up? You're on the air with Los Angeles Nista episode 131. Jason Jesse and Chris Pontius. Yeah. I called in to talk to you guys. My name is Mark. I'm calling from Los Angeles as well. Real quick. Chris. I was wondering. How long. You play guitar right? I'll go ahead and answer that. Yes. Thanks. Yeah. No problem. Chris. What kind of music do you play? Reggae. Oh. That's pretty cool. Fusion jazz. Yeah. He plays. Go ahead and answer that question. You chew tobacco when you play guitars too? Sometimes. Today. Today I do. And tomorrow I will too. Unless I chew both cans. But I have to. I have two cans if that's what you're asking. One's happy. Like a bird? Like a chew can? I'm going to tell you something. I have five cans. I bought the whole roll. And that's the truth. I bought it at two something in the morning last night. I got wild. I was walking my dog and I saw this special in the side and I went into the store and I said I'll take the whole roll because it was it was a deal. It's not the band that's either. It's Copenhagen. Yeah. And yeah, it's it's the. Yeah. It's not a kid stuff. It's the real. It's the mouth cancer. Yeah. It's the mouth cancer stuff. So the real deal. Yeah. Not not some pussy. Hawkins or whatever. Not the candy. Not 12. Big chew. It's not that. But when I was 12, I did. I did chew it. You know, the Hawkins a little bit. Then I took a call. Then I quit for like years. I just wanted to ask you guys about tobacco. We want to keep you on the line. We're trying to gauge where you're calling from. We're tracing your number. We're trying to get you on the line. We're trying to get you on the line. We're trying to get you on the line. We're trying to get you on the line. We're trying to get you on the line. We're trying to gauge where you're calling from. We're tracing your number. Mark. Thank God. He was he was stressing us out. Conversation. I don't I don't think he hung up on us. He just hung up. He was like, no, he was like, these guys don't need me. He's all the question was answered like 20 minutes ago. No. Maybe he doesn't like he was just no. I think he the reception went bad. Do you know anything else about Edward James Olmos? A little bit. PQ, could you let us know about it? Well, the first thing I found out, I don't want to like just slander people. I like Edward James Olmos. I admire womanizing, but I don't admire it. But I think he has a reputation for being a real Don Juan, maybe. But I was kidding. No, playboy. This is what are you playing? A lot of shows. I'm not a playboy. I'm not a playboy. I want to see this is like coming on my ass and it might not be true. But the first time I ever heard a story about James Olmos was not Edward James Olmos. James Olmos, Edward. E.J. L.O. Anyway, I used to know a bunch of people in Fresno and this one this one Mexican girl. Her name is Marisela. And she's a high school girl and she's really pretty. And Edward James Olmos, I think, went and talked to their school. Yeah. asked her, he told her, he like, this is like, was around American me, this is gnarly. I shouldn't. No, I didn't know that anything happened. Is it okay, Jason? This is what I was told. And then he thought she was pretty and like offered to fly her down to LA. so I think she's like, oh, you know, was like stoked and she got to bring a friend. Then he took her to a club and she, and I guess he'd say her name, like Maricela, like act like she was kind of like um, like she basically thought he was bullshit. I think like, kind of like tried to like like like, I don't know what you would call it. Like, um, beat her along? Like he was not a, he was maybe a I don't, God, I, no he was just bullshit. Like he couldn't even speak Spanish. Like, you know what I mean? He was, yeah, he was it was like that. I mean, this girl was like, was, was this what she was saying? I mean, through her eyes, she would, he would kind of like try to act like, like try to fit in more. I don't know. Maybe he grew up like in like, um, Riverside? Yeah. Or maybe somewhere like really like, like Kansas or somewhere, you know, maybe his mom and dad were Mexican but he never knew them. You know, he was like, um he was like a cracker. What about Marino Valley, dude? Marino Valley. He was a fucking cracker. And, um, no, I don't know. I'm just now I don't know where I'm going with this. Anyway, anyway, but this girl, she was she was young and, and I don't know um, some scandalous shit. I gotta just shut my mouth right there because this is, I don't, I don't remember everything and I'm just going through it with my head and I can't really say this from my point of view. I was just pissed because he didn't ask me to go down to LA and go and get me a, like fly me down there and call me Marcel. I know, that's, that's sad. And so I felt pretty bad. I felt pretty ugly and I wondered if I had tangles. Don't feel ugly. Don't feel ugly. We could jazz up your face with like jewelry or something. You'd be fine. But that guy in there to me, the guy that really was the JD guy, he was pissed. He was in prison and he was really I think he tried to sue the he probably wanted to kill. People got 86. They peaced out permanently, right? Big time, yeah. Um, but, but, um I want to come I wanted to acquire That reminds me of the leader of the hoodie. Oh, right. Do you like, uh, Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a white guy. I'm sorry to interrupt. No one's ever asked you about a kook repellent ever, really? No, that's amazing. Yeah, and I don't even, I can't even believe that I have a couple bottles. Still. That's years ago. Do you like Black Flag? Do I like Black Flag? Yeah. Which part? Well, I'm just curious because remember the Des Cadena? I like Des and Chuck. I like What I Know by Chuck Dukowski. What's your favorite? I want to live. I wish I was dead. What's your favorite singer? That would be Chuck Dukowski. That would be Chuck. Because of What I Know. The song. Because of What You Know. Yeah, I want to live. I wish I was dead. The best song ever. You always had Blast or Black Flag on your skate parts. Is that because you I took them off. You took it off. You took it off. You changed. You changed. After I went born again. No, I'm just kidding. After you went born again. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah, because, you know, that's the kind of music that got people pumped. Yeah, you were pretty excited back then. You know, when you're in your late teens, you want to destroy everything in front of you. Search and destroy, right? You can't help it. You just want to go. Starts a machine, dude. Buzzer, yeah. And then as you get older, you realize, what, total fruitcakes? A lot of them are? Yeah. And you're over it and you're back into Merciful Fate. One King Diamond, right? And you're like, fuck those guys. Because he thinks he's a devil. He's badass. You're like, okay. You get older and you're like, you know what? I'm down with some more. He's a good looking guy. But like Gene Simmons sued him. I don't know. Ah, Gene Simmons. Gene Simmons, I don't like. Well, I don't know him as a person, but he was at this metal. A lot of people, a lot of guys have been sued people, huh? I could talk shit about him for sure. Who is that? He is the bass player of Kiss. He's got a tongue. Oh, God. I remember those dolls. He like, um. Cute. Cute as dolls. Yeah, they are rad. Cute as dolls. So cute, yeah. It's at that metal school or Steel Panther or whatever. Back when like they were called metal school, like different rock stars would like go to their shows and like they'd be like, hey, blah, blah, blah. You know, like, hey, Lita Ford, come on, let's play Kiss Me Deadly. And they know they go sing. I just, that came off the top of my head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though it was true. Good call, though. But anyway, so Gene goes. He hears that he's going and then they're like, hey, Gene, let's play a Kiss song. And, you know, the audience was like, yeah, you know, you know, like that's rather they can play whoever's their song. Yeah. And Gene just like rub his fingers together like, you know, like give me money or something. Like pay me like this? Yeah, and that's not a very rock and roll attitude at all. Not at all. So maybe. He needs tobacco and he needs big knives from Ventura. Is that where they're from, Ventura? He needs to stop pretending that he's something that he's not. Exactly. MC5 was a different story. Cougar Pellant would be good on him, huh? Well, I don't even know who you're talking about. Gene Simmons. I don't either. I don't know who you're talking about. All I know is this barely. I like rock. Dude was rubbing his fingers together at a show. That's weird. He was like this. I think he's a pervert. He's probably from I wasn't ever into that kind of music. Right, right, right. I have no idea. So I have a question for you, Jason. New wave and romantic. New romantic. Big day glow, skinny ties. Well, okay. What was the question? Okay, so how long have you had your own shoe on Converse? I think it's just the colorway. It's just It just came out. I mean, the Santa Cruz collab one. Yeah. That just came out. That just came out, right? It was like a birthday collab. Hopefully next year will be different. I was stoked, though. Like, Converse is the best thing that's ever happened. But let's talk about other stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about I have another question. Yeah. I love Converse. It's hard to talk about yourself. You know what I mean? Right, right. I love my shoe. Thank you. I think we should talk about Converse. Let's talk about You've never been We should call this video show the Converse halftime hour. You've never seen Star Wars, right? What's that? You've never seen Star Wars? No, I have not. I want to start collecting it. Collecting Star Wars stuff. I just, I heard about it recently. I just wanted to start One time after a Converse meeting, I heard that you went to get some Star Wars games in your new blue Converse. No, yeah, not the red ones. Let's talk about D&D, Dungeons and Dragons. Yeah. I was never into that. I was never into it. But I want to get into it. I also want to start I've never done Acid and I want to start. You want to start? Well, I want to take I want to do Acid once. Try it once? Bad idea. I've never done that or Shrooms. I never have. I have done those He says bad idea. I'm not going to do it. Especially, yeah, you shouldn't do it. At my age, yeah. You are the demographic. I mean, it's a horrible drug. And when you're 15 and you don't really think about anything, you know, the problem with Acid and there's a few problems with Acid. There's actually a lot of problems. Tell us, tell us. One of the problems with it is it lasts way too long. It's like, it is like golf. Like, actually, when I was playing golf, when I had to play golf with this charity thing and that's where I'm boring. where your cousin or your nephew was. Yeah, yeah. But it's like, it reminded me of being on Acid when I was 15 because it just, it lasts so long. How boring. And yeah, it's like eight hours. You're like, you're like tripping out. I would never do golf. It's funny for a few hours, you know, and like looking at things, things transforming, you know, whatever. So weird. You know, if it's, you know, make you hallucinate or whatever, but eventually, like, it's not, you want it to be done and you just feel weird. So it's a horrible drug and it's getting popular again. Like, like some kids, a few kids have come up to me recently, like they were like, hey, blah, blah, and they were on Acid. Like, and I was just like, I didn't know that people did Acid anymore. I thought you guys had better drugs now. Yeah, right. Like, whatever. You're like, I don't even know the names of. And, you hear names like Molly's and what's that, Bath Salt? What's things I don't know? What is that? I mean. Bath Salt, they got a big reputation when it was eating people, but. What about Huffing Turds? I want to do that. I want to get into that. What's that called? Well, Cheech and Chunk has done that already. That's called a Jankum. Jankum. I want to get into Jankum. Have you done? Have you huffed turds? Dog turds? I've been involved in a Jankum session. I mean, I've set it up. I didn't do the Jankum, but I like helped to get process. The guy pooed where the gas could get. I basically did it. I was like the maker. I mean, like the technician. No, but I did. You facilitated the content. Yeah, I made it work because we had, there was the poo and we had to get the poo into like, into like some bottle. So I had like, I found some ingenious thing. It was like, I got a bag or something. So it would like go through it into the, because there's a little, we don't want the poo. It wasn't our, it wasn't my poo. It wasn't, it was some kid's poo that had to happen to have to poo at the time. And so no one wanted to touch it to get into like the bottle. So anyway, Jenkins, for those that don't know, is you, well, everyone knows what that is. No, I assume it's the gases. You put it in the microwave with like a, in like a plastic bottle and with a, got to get all confused when I talk about Jenkins, but with like a bag, like a plastic bag over, I can't remember how it went, but you heat it up and all the gases go up to the top like a hot air balloon. And then you inhale all the gases and it gets you, it gets you high. Like if you look it up on YouTube, like there's always newscasters like talking about like kids strung out on a Jenkins. Or there's newscasters high on it trying to talk about it. You know what sucks? Like when you're a kid and a dude gets out of jail after 10 years, like a big gangster and he's all pissed off and buffed and smokes PCP in your neighborhood. Yeah, it's over. It sucks. Dave England was telling me about this guy that his friend met in jail that this big black dude that he'll, for like, you know, I can't remember how much it was. It was a reasonable price for the service. He'll go to their house. He'll go to their house and some, you know, if there's some dude you don't like, he'll rape him, take a Polaroid of it and give it to you as proof. That's better than murder. I can't remember how much the price was, but even for a few thousand dollars it'd be fucking worth it. And you couldn't get in trouble as bad as if he murdered him. No, that was the service he provided. That's his service. He went and got a fictitious business name for that. Or in a bank account. Have you met the, like you wanted to send that guy to? Maybe four people in my life. Four? Maybe two. Does one of them play guitar? No. Actually, yeah, yeah. I've worked with him to like put some pedestal pushers in the, in the, people that, in, you know, people that rip me off in, in, in, in, you know, like lawyer types, you know? Those guys. Yeah. They give you the double talk. Yeah. Suits. You know, those people. Fuck those guys. I want to send, I don't want them killed, but I want them raped. But what if they're like, that was bitching. And I want to actually send them over here and go into it. Thank you. And then they're paying him. Then my attitude about the guy would change. And then, and then, and then you bring the donkey dick mic and it's over. And you know what? Just jank them all over again and everyone's high on. This episode of Los Angeles 131 is over. Two hours. This kid's dying on jank him every day. Right now. Every day? Yeah. I'm stuck because now I want to get into it. It's like the new thing. Do you have a connect? Jank him is good in moderation. Do you have a connect? It's great in excess. No, we can all, no, you don't need a connect. Oh, you just make your own. Yeah, you can make your own. No common sense. In a microwave. That's terrible. Well, thanks for bringing the knives. You can make so much jank him. Oh, sorry. No, thanks for bringing the chewing tobacco, the knives, the great story, the cheese. I didn't bring anything. Thanks for bringing the lawnmower. Okay. Thank you for the commodity. I'm just tagging along. No, I'm sorry you guys for coming. I'm sorry. Yeah, this is great. Jason, Jesse, Chris Pontius, thanks for being a part of episode 131 of Los Angeles Nista. I want to give a big shout out to Flood Control Skateboards and Two Felon Skate Shop and AmpsandGreenscreens.com. That's a wrap. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.