Prometheus review and film industry chat

right there. Hey, Jeremy, get us some sort of... ...on skidroadstudios.com. We are broadcasting from downtown Los Angeles, California. Don't you wish you were in Southern California, soaking up the sun? I like to make people really jealous. We're joined here tonight by my friend and filmmaker, actor Gabriel Romero. Thanks for coming, Gabe. Glad I could be here. Thanks for having me. You're awesome, man. So, dude, you saw Prometheus this morning, did you not? I did. 9.30 a.m., early screen. What kind of maniac goes and sees a movie at 9.30 in the morning? The kind who doesn't want to pay more than $6 to see a movie. Genius. And that was the AMC Theaters. Yeah, AM Cinema is what they're called. How early do you have to get there? Any movie that starts before noon is only $6. So if you can catch a screening at like 11.59, it's only $6. Wow. Cheaper than the new Beverly Cinema at $7 or $8. That's amazing. But popcorn will set you back. Yeah. I like to go. I have a whole thing. My buddy Adam and I used to do it all the time. Now my girl does it with me. We go get a bagel at Noah's. A little schmear. A little coffee. I'm Irish. I have no idea what you're talking about. Schmear. Cream cheese, man. Come on. I need potatoes in the morning. No, we go. We get a bagel. We get some coffee. Eat, you know. And then go see a movie at 10 o'clock in the morning. Butt ass early in the morning. I think that's great. It's a great way to start the day, man. I went to go do that at the Grove out in Los Angeles. Great theaters there. Good 3D and all that. Good rot. And I go to see something. I don't know. Social network or something early in the morning. One Sunday or something. Fucking mommy night. One day. And it's all babies and it's all mommies. No, if you go early enough, if you go like to a 9.30 or 10 o'clock, you're going to get a bagel. You're going to get a bagel. You're going to get a bagel. If you go to a 9.30 or 10 o'clock show, there's nobody there. Like usually it's me and my buddy and that's it. Or me and my girl and that's it. You know? Like watching Wolf with Jack Nicholson in the theater. Yeah. Just me and my buddy. Watch Wolf. You know. You can do that whole Mystery Science Theater 3000 thing. Oh, absolutely. You know, nobody cares if you're because nobody else is there. I saw Pulp Fiction like that like in some torn down mall now here in the valley. But it was like a little 30 3 seat screen. It was well after it had come out and I'm, yeah, of course blown away by Pulp Fiction. Well, and the best part about it though is like you can go see a movie that you wouldn't normally see in the theater. You don't want to pay the you know, the $18 and you know, plus popcorn, plus a drink. And you can go see one of those movies in the theater. Because it's only six bucks. It's ridiculously expensive to see movies these days. And I had read a great article about adjusted pricing. A big action movie costs $100 million to make. Sure, we're going to charge you $18 to see it. Some little cheap independent rom-com, something in like 60 theaters. Alright, $5.50, we'll let you in. I don't know if the theater experience is going to last. I did read tonight that the studios are committed to last prints will roll out in 2013. That's it. It's over. Well, yeah, but just because the last prints are going to roll out in 2013 doesn't mean the end of movie theaters. They're just, I was, when I was working with Warner Brothers, they were talking about they had set up systems where they could digitally stream a movie to a theater. So they didn't even have to send like a hard copy of it or you know, like a digital copy on a hard drive. They just stream it. You know, and then it goes right to the projector digitally. You know, and it's the same quality. You're not losing anything. Once all the technology's developed, wouldn't it be cheaper eventually to distribute? I know it is now and they're paying less than prints, but more than it really costs for the digital. The digital prints, because it costs nothing. One, two, zero, zero. Make a bunch of those. Actually, release it to some kids. Let them make a bunch of copies. Then we'll put it into the theater. I was working as a producer and I ended up not staying with the project because the guy running it was insane. But he was shooting, like, a movie about a classic film star and he was set on shooting it black and white film. And I'm like, dude, in this day and age, shoot it on a digital camera and convert it to black and white. Like, you can put it through a filter. It can have that classic... The artist was shot on color and then converted to black and white later. Yeah. Yeah. Like, this guy had a tiny budget, like microscopic budget. And probably three quarters of it was spent on film stock processing. It's like, you are wasting money. You're burning money. Literally, you're burning money. And it's just... It boggled my mind. I'm like, do you have any idea how much you could actually have for the production of your film if you shot it on digital? And then convert it to black and white? Because you've got to convert it anyway. Nice sets that look flat or graphic sets that look... Really? Wow, that was rich and beautiful. I'm kidding. And you could... It's fine now. What's the bottom level for the camera that you can't tell the difference? Like, a hundred grand? Oh, God. Not even that much. Really? Yeah. No. These days, maybe ten grand. You can get a really good camera. You know? I mean, I'm getting a Sony EX3, and that's ten grand. You know? I mean, it's... And, I mean, the guy is just... And on top... On top of that, you're... By shooting the whole thing in black and white, you're limiting your distribution. Like, this guy was making a movie for himself. And don't get me wrong. I'm a big fan of make the movie you want to see. But there's a difference between making the movie you want to see and making a movie just for you. You know? No, I want to make movies that other people want to see. Yeah! Like, isn't that the point? They like this, but I want to kill them here. I killed them here. Really? I'm on page 88. No. I was going to do this big, you know, rip the rug under convention. I'm going to kill the lead character off in 30 pages. That's original. I was reading about this one writer who was writing a movie, and one of the characters dies in the movie, but in his first draft, he died three times because he just couldn't figure out where he wanted to kill him. He just... So he had three different death scenes for the same character in the original draft, and I have to imagine somebody reading that draft would have been like, alright, so he's dead. Wait a minute, he's got lines on this next page. Were they in a row? Yeah, were these scenes in a row? Bro. His next death scene. We did one each act. Yeah, it's like one at the end of the first act. I loved Living in Oblivion and that three-act structure. You've seen Living in Oblivion and Steve Buscemi, the ultimate working on low-budget movies. The things you have to do, even with a lot of money and a lot of people on a big, big movie, there's still weird shit you've got to do that pretty much ain't legal. On a film set. There's a car on the way. Really, there's a car on the way. Oh, what do we do? What is it? It's a little VW. Let's blow it up. Go get tiny. Okay, go get like four other, get the grip, get electric, bring them over here. Guys, we need to move that over there. And I've seen guys pick up a car and move it. And you get hurt, you get, you know, cut and things fall down, things blow up, and it's fun. But on a low-budget movie, well, that's, it's even rougher. Oh, yeah. Well, you've got to be so much more creative. So much more creative. Money is the evil to, the poison to creativity. Oh, yeah. Find a really great independent director that self-produced their first movie and just, you know, really, wow, throw a bunch of money at them and you get the fountain. It's awesome. No kidding. Well, no, it was like, I was, it's like that, there's the old story about the guy who made a movie for, I think he made a movie for four million dollars, then his next movie was for two hundred and seventy thousand dollars, and the producer is just, you know, under his desk crying the whole time, you know, next movie, thirty-six million dollars goes to the producers. Like, there's a problem. Oh, fuck that. Throw some more money at it. That'll fix the problem. Just throw some money at it. What was the, what was the budget for Prometheus of all things? Which was, I thought it was, what did you think? What was your opinion on the movie? To be perfectly frank, I was disappointed. Wow. I, okay, I'm not supposed to go see scary movies because they scare the shit out of me. Like, after I saw the second, um, what was it? The second, um, the movie with the, the, the documentary style, like the found footage film with the family. No, no, no. The family with the possessed, like they had the demon in the house or whatever it was. Oh, what was it? Oh, uh, the, uh, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. The, yeah, like the first one was made for like, that one. Twenty-five bucks in a box of Doritos and then the second one was made for thirteen million. Ooh. Um, what was it? Huge franchise now. Uh, Paranormal Activity. Yes, Paranormal Activity. Paranormal Activity. But no, I saw the second one, I could not sleep for three days because every time I'd start to drift off to sleep, I'd see the woman like standing in my doorway. I'd be like, fuck! The twins from The Shining were at the foot of my bed for a while. Right, right. So I'm not supposed to see scary movies. I even made a movie about how I'm not supposed to see scary movies, The Night In. You know, you can find it on Facebook, The Night In. You know, um, self-plug there. I'm, I'm not too proud. It's a gorgeous movie. It looks great. Um, but, so I went into this like fully being prepared to shit my pants. Like, I just, I was ready to be scared. And, you know what? That's your job as a director. Like, I paid my money. I paid my six dollars. I want to be scared. And it just didn't scare me. At all. And there's a bunch of stuff that didn't make sense and stuff that like, there's no reason why that was done this way. And, you know, I just, I was disappointed. If later you have to, and I do that, I go, well, I'll connect. Damon Lindelof partially wrote it. So there's shit where he's like, oh, we'll go out over here on this limb and I don't know how to figure that. We'll let the audience figure that one out. And you do. You try to. The puzzle of it is trying to, you know, figure out and what's the metaphor of that and how is that connected. They'll give you little breadcrumbs to do it, but I've been, if a movie kind of a stinker or really bad like, you know, Phantom Menace, episode one, I think people had problems with Star Wars one. They go, well, maybe I'll see it again and it'll be better the next time. So I saw it again. And Prometheus was, was, you know, the original alien. It layers over certain scenes. Like, is that a note from your friend? No, it's a, I just got a text from the guy I saw the movie with this morning. Oh, yeah? Yeah, and he's like, because he too was very upset about it. He was, although, like, I'm just disappointed. He was angry. He was very upset. And so I just got a text from him and he's like, I'm feeling better about it now. You know, I'm okay. Nice to see you've calmed down. You know? Well, I thought it was, I thought it was terrifying. Really? I really did. I thought it was terrifying. I thought it had, um, they'd set him up all innocent as these cute little scientists going off and, oh, let's go figure it out. And look, oh, there's a robot that's into T, you know, T.S. or T.S., uh, who is, uh, uh, Lawrence. Uh, oh, uh, Lawrence. He's watching, uh, Lawrence of Arabia to get mannerisms and hairstyles. That was great. What was the other movie that, oh, no, it was a dream he was looking at at the beginning. Yeah. Were there any other movies referenced he was watching or something? No, I think it was just that one. Lawrence of Arabia is still around in 2097 or whenever the movie. Yeah, he was watching Lawrence of Arabia and he goes, he burns the match on it. Right. Oh, that hurts. The secret is not to care. Yeah, yeah. The secret is not to mind. Yeah. Um, the trick is not minding it heads. That's it. And he, that, that was telling, uh, building up into, uh, how the robot is used. Um, I, I, so, you know, was scared at a nine-year-old kid as the original alien. So perhaps there's more into it for me. You know, I don't know. And the second one I was, I was sweating, was fearful for actual aliens in James Cameron aliens to be in the theater under my seat. I was, my, my girlfriend was, was afraid of aliens for a long time. She thought aliens were going to come and abduct her and take her away. Who wants to have a chestburster, you know, come out. And they, they played with a lot of those, uh, tropes from, uh, the original alien. And so this one was, how do we do it different and get their, um, the holograms. Did you like the holograms? I did. I thought it was, I thought it was an interesting way of telling backstory without, you know, hi, I'm so-and-so. My job is to deliver backstory. I'm exposition man. You know, like, it gives you a sense as, you know, I liked the parallel of weapons of mass destruction. Like, you know, these people were smart enough not to build it in their own backyard, but it still bit them in the ass. Do you think that, uh, maybe there was just a rogue one that was like, oh, I'm gonna piss all over the project you did instead of like same race creatures that create us wants to destroy us. I don't get that. That was part of the plot thing that didn't make sense, but I made it make sense by having the, um, the one who survived. Yeah. And he's the one that let it lose. George was trying to kill the rest of them. Um, and am I really wheezing like that? Uh, he's the one that maybe killed the rest of them and, and that he, um, was like, I'm gonna destroy the race. Maybe he was like a, uh, cane to, uh, Neo or something of their race. Maybe there was a destroyer. Dick Cheney got up on the rocket ship. He's like, I'm gonna press the button. You guys can piss on you. Um, I was always trying to figure that out too. Um, I like the whole kind of premise of, uh, of being tricked there for whatever reason. I, yeah, I don't know. I, I, I thought it was, I, like, the guy who kills himself at the very beginning, I don't get. And, you know, I, I just, I felt like the, the, there was so much, I don't mind a bit here and a bit there that the audience has to figure out. I think there are, I think we have smart audiences and, you know, I, I, I don't think you have to tie everything up into a cute little bow, but you don't get to leave all of the loose ends. You have to tie up some stuff. You've got to answer some questions. You have to, you know. I'll answer them. What questions do you have about Prometheus? Why does the guy kill himself at the very beginning? Why does the guy kill himself? Oh, that's, that's, uh, that's easy. So, they need to move. They're losing their world, whatever. They need to set up, uh, maybe a new place. To go to. But they, uh, they aren't the same physiology as the planet. It's close. You know, a percentage off here and there's a little more carbon dioxide. A little, maybe not, maybe a planet that won't at the time, you know, allow that kind of size or bulk. At our most ripped NBA players that are 6'7 and 6'10 and the ones that work out in our centers, they kind of look about that size. The human race could be that kind of model of a god. Um, we, seriously, I mean, I know he's big and very strong, but he's been very scary and had weird things around his neck. Um, they had, uh, they go, we need to move, but we can't, we can't go ourselves. We need to send our spirit, our DNA, we need to send our essence, basically. So, they went down with a, uh, a sacrificial one that used the goo, the alien goo that does everything, the xenomorph goo, let's call it. Okay. Uh, and this, spoiler alert, uh, and so he had to, at the new matrix, take this goo, which will, when he dies, it went in and started messing with his DNA. It destroyed his DNA. It didn't just mess with it like you watch it, it just, it disintegrates. Yeah, but it went into the planet and it went into the water and it went into the earth. And the little compound that he drank was, yes, in this Jesus Christ like sacrifice, in this in my death you will live. He was there, he had religious overtones, it had uplift wars, if anyone reads David Brin. Uh, it had, uh, you know, the creation, the God theory. And it was almost literal of like through the mud, through the earth, man was created. And so it can fit into the ideas of the Bible. And it was right at this gushing water, where, you know, we're water born, um, in terms of life on the planet. Maybe that's what he was going for, and I can see where you're going. Yeah, he told it in two minutes, visually, with no dialogue. No, I, I, yeah, and I can see that. My problem is, in the visuals, you see the DNA completely disintegrate. You see it dematerialize. It doesn't change and spread out. It, it, it is gone. You know, and, like, you actually see the double helix turn black, and then just pfft. And so, and that's why I didn't. And it was an experiment that went wrong and I fucked up. And they couldn't get over here. So they're stuck in limbo at this other side experimental planet. Well, and that's the other thing, like, okay, if that's where they're living, if that's where they're living, then they're living in spacesuits. Because the guys have to wear spacesuits. You see them, you see them wearing it. They're wearing a headpiece, they're wearing, you know. Yeah, but they had bioengineered the inside of that dome, where their spaceships were, as their hangar, to be, have breathable air. Right. For them, too, because he doesn't have a spacesuit on. The, um, engineer doesn't have a spacesuit on at the end, when he's standing there and killing everybody. Yeah. He doesn't have a helmet on. No, and, and you see it, like, there's, there's the part where they get in, and they're, you know, when they first take off their helmets, oh, look, it's breathable air. I can tell them I, you know. You know, my iPhone, I can tell that the air is breathable. I have an app for that. And so the guy takes off his helmet, you know. It's purer than earth air. Schmuck. Um, it, well, it did have all the, um, echoes and resonances of the first one. I felt it. It's like, these aren't military vehicles, these are science vehicles. Mmm. Their little, uh, track, their all-track terrain track looked similar to how the marine transport is in aliens. But it was more like, these are experiments on here. We don't have weapons. Um, of course, played out in the end. I like to spoil everything. It was so hard not to talk about it before you had a chance to see it. Um, great, uh, alien cesarean section abortion scene. Well, and that was the other thing, like, as soon as, because the girl goes up to it, Shaw, who, and I loved her. I thought she did a great job. Um, she goes up to it, and she punches the thing, and this is only calibrated for men. And so, the first thought was, you know, is Charlize Theron transsexual? Like, is that what it is? And then I was like, no. The old guy's there. Right. Spoiler. Waylon. You know. He never reunited, or hasn't with you, Tony, yet. Here's the thing I don't get. Why not just be on the ship with everybody else? Why does it have to be a secret that you're there? Why, you know, like, you paid for it. You know, why the lie? Okay, because I also think maybe he wasn't in stasis on the two-year trip, because they said he goes, she wakes up, and she goes, how long? And David, uh, and of the four robots in the movies, there's Ash, Bishop, Call, and David. Right. Uh, David goes two years, four months, sixteen days, and thirty-two hours, or whatever, and thirty-two minutes. Right, right. Which is interesting, that had the, like, almost had the numbers from Lost in there. Um, and she's two years, and they also mention the exposition. They go, oh, yeah, your little pod, your little separate little ship there that you have in our ship, that you have enough stocks on there for two years. Yeah. So, was that, was he not in stasis, because of his health, and maybe being, waking up, and puking, and everything? They did a line of something like, oh, are you awake now? To him. To Weyland? Mm-hmm. So, I was confused of what was with the purpose of the exposition of two years as a pod. Maybe setting up a sequel. Two is the time it takes to get back. Right. Time it takes to get back home. And they might not be able to go into stasis because they're aliens? I don't know. Well, no, because in her thing, she didn't have a stasis pod. In her special little thing, she didn't have a stasis. Oh. So, the med kit thing was that, that was for Weyland. That was programmed for him. I love it. I also thought, I brought up a thing to my wife. I said, hey, you know why they did the bit about, oh, this isn't programmed for a woman? She's like, why? I said, because, uh, when they said, she goes, foreign object, abdomen, remove that shit. Beep. Thank you. When she does that, then finally, men can actually identify with what's about to go down. If you kept it only on women's terms and said, cesarean, men go, what? I'll be out smoking a cigar in the lobby. Mentally. But when you say, foreign object, abdomen, remove it. All of a sudden, men can now identify with her. She's pretty androgynous. At that point, she's wearing the fifth element bandages, around her boobies. She looked good in the bandages. I thought you were an eight-year-old boy. No. She gets in there, and that was the scene for the whole movie. Earlier, though, they'd set this up a few times that it's very, very sexual. The scene with Two Days in the Valley. Charlize Theron. Scene with her, and was it David, in the hallway, where she's basically almost raping him against the wall. She throws him against the wall, and her face is up to his, like she's going to kiss him, yet they're arguing the whole time. Just the physicality of the scene looks like, come on. And then the first time the worms come on, and the snake breaks the guy's arm, and then comes down his throat, which is a little foreshadowing to later at the end when other things are rammed down throats to the engineer at the end. Very sexual. Actually, graphic R-rated like, copulation sexual enforced mouth rape. That I've screamed. The whole helmet melting, and then that thing going in the guy's. So that was the setup, and basically the inception for our birth scene in the movie. Was the audience screaming? Was there any sort of reaction to that? I laughed a couple times. There were some things I found funny. I don't remember what they were, but although I do remember laughing when the ship rolls over her. Rolls over. And here's the other thing I don't get. Like, this is stupid, and they do this so often. Like, there is this giant wheel, chasing you down. Just turn left. You know? Like, there's shit falling down, but there's shit falling down everywhere. It's not like there are fissures in the ground. You don't have anything coming. Like, there's nothing keeping you running down this bowling alley. You know? Like, just turn right. Kind of like, because there are protagonists and stuff, and our antagonists both running from it. The main women, and they're both women. Interesting on Ridley Scott's part. And they're running from this, uh, thing to get crushed. Side note, Two Days in the Valley. What's her name? Charlize Theron. Charlize Theron, with an Oscar and all that good stuff. She, uh, they said that behind the scenes, she's a heavy smoker. And that she had problems with all the running and would be out of breath and take time between takes. And it's interesting, she can't run quite as fast as me. Me. Well, you know, what I thought was really funny, what I thought was really interesting was, you know, when all of the hubbub was made about the size of Michael Fassbender's penis, after he was, when he did Shame, she actually commented. She commented about how nice it is. So, apparently they were getting intimate on the set. Because she made a very, she made a very, you know, He's her brother. Basically. Not in real life. I questioned her humanness, but, uh, if she was, looked like she just finished puking or was working out to not puke. Yeah, my buddy asked me that. My buddy asked me, he's like, you know, do you think she was a robot? And I'm like, I've thought about it, but not really. Like, and that's part of the whole, like, that's, that's part of the emotional undertone is, you know, Waylon says, you're the closest thing to a son that I have. And you, like, they cut to Charlize Theron. I just realized something. Maybe they took DNA from her or the dad who's got gray hair and she's got blonde hair and Michael Fassbender's got blonde hair as the original. But he dyes it. You see, I'm not saying that. You see him in, in that sequence before they all wake up when he's watching Lawrence of Arabia. He's, he dyes his hair. You see him dye it. Just, uh, Ash from the first movie had that great shock of, uh, gray hair, that white hair. I just remember him, uh, oh God, such a great, uh, the original alien, that whole scene where they knock off his head. What do you got there? This way. So you. Don't forget. Ooh. Just keep it up there. I can't. Ooh. So every time you look at it. Charlize Theron. Charlize Theron. Charlize Theron. Char. We could just call her like Char- Char-thay. Shari. Hey, Shari. How you doing? Charlize Theron. On the radar with Two Days in the Valley, the bathroom fight with Terry Hatcher. I forget who I was talking to, but I was like, haven't you seen, you know, because, because Two Days in the Valley came out right after she did Playboy. Like Playboy was her. Entry. Entrance into the entertainment world. Who? Charlize Theron. Yeah. She was in Playboy? Oh yeah. That was. What year and issue? I'm sorry. I was. I don't know. I'm gonna look for it. Well, the internet's. Google it up. But no, that, that came out, you know, and it's her and James Spader in this very, you want to talk about very sexual scenes. Like I think it's right after they kill the guy, you know, and she's in her little negligee. Playboy, May, 1999. Taking you all the way back. Yeah. Yeah. And she's got. Back to the last century. Back to the last millennium bitch. Boobies. I see boobies. Oh, there's boobies. That's okay. I've seen better. Very talented. Well, lovely. Don't get me wrong. You're nice, but I've seen better. The, that's pretty much it for Prometheus. I mean, I loved, I, I actually pretty much enjoyed the ride. I thought that it was starting small instead of big monsters coming after you. It was little and bigger. And you know, I judge. Well, yeah. And that's, I mean, you got to do it that way. And I judge, I judge all movies by expectation. And I was really looking forward to this, you know, but like I was really looking forward to Avengers. Avengers delivered and exceeded my expectations. Prometheus, it didn't meet up to them. Um, I think that's a good question. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. talking to them about it. It's my birthday. Wish me a birthday. And there's another one. It is a TED talk. And it's Wayland talking about future technologies from a future TED conference. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Oh, I'm a total TED junkie. It was like 2029 TED conference. And there's Wayland, but younger. And you finally recognize, I didn't recognize Guy Pearce at all. No, me either. I kept wondering, you know, who's playing that. Finally, at the end when he was dying, oh, spoiler. Finally, at the end when he was dying, laying on his side. Yeah, spoiler. The guy who's 198 years old dies. Yeah. All hell's breaking loose. And, oh, yeah, absolutely. I'll give you a second to go do that in that little part right over there. Yeah, Wayland, Yutani, I think that's how you pronounce it, tied, the universe tied in with Blade Runner, another amazing film. Released 1981, starring Harrison Ford, Sean Young, Joanna Cassidy, Ridley Scott created Los Angeles 2019. Is it 2019? Yeah, Blade Runner. So we're just seven years away from the actual year Blade Runner took place in. We're getting there. We're close. You know where I went for my birthday one year? Where's that? The Bradbury building. Such a freak. Was she there? Who? What? Chris? Yeah. No, no. Just sitting there. We, future things predicted in these movies. Now, Spinners, we don't got no flying cars. And Brad was like, where's my flying cars? You promised me flying cars. Speaking of TED conferences, there's a TED conference where a woman talks about flying cars and how we don't have flying cars, but we now have drivable planes. It's a plane you can buy. It's a plane you can buy. It's like 150 grand. You have to have a pilot's license. You do have to have a pilot's license. But you buy the car and you drive to your local small airport, take off, fly to wherever it is you're going, land at their local small airport, and then drive to, you know, wherever from there. Great getaway car for bank robberies. Well, it's just, it always makes me think of, you know, Doc, we got enough road. Where we're going, Marty, we don't need roads. I can't believe you mispronounced it. Gigabyte. I did not. No, he did. Oh, yeah. But they weren't using it. It wasn't in popular enough usage to nail it down. Oh, come on. They made it up. It's a fictitious unit of measurement. It's gigawatts. It's, you know. I don't have to get it right. It's the movies. It's a Google. You know. Which Google probably has a Google pages index. Google. Future technology is projected in these movies. Uh-huh. What? iPads, iPhones, tricorders, all that good rot. Self-adjustable shoes. The clamshell design of mobile phones was because of the tricorder. People were so used to seeing you just flip it open. So, the cell phone company said, because the very first flip phones flipped down. You had this bulky body and then the thing flipped down. Those never took off. And so. They started doing the clamshell that flipped up. And that's. That was based on. They're like, you know what? Star Trek. People. People already. Are already familiar with this movement and this image. So, let's. Let's play into it. Steer into this kid. All cool technology. CDs, lasers, cell phones. All that was here 50 years ago for Roswell. And they've just been piecing. Piecemealing it out to the public ever since. They're reverse engineering it from Megatron. Holograms have got to be coming. I have got to be coming. They're here. No, that's a fake one with a glass plane that is projected. And if you're too far off the axis, it doesn't look good. I'm talking a true fucking hologram. Like in Prometheus. Like in Buckaroo Bonsai across the eighth dimension. Like in Star Wars episode four, A New Hope. A few good holograms out there. I really like the hologram usage in Prometheus. It was probably the best. It was more like projected heads up displays. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You project, why just project a speaker? Why not project the whole room the speaker's in in front of you? And they redid the paneling and the ceiling and the floors. That was fucking cool. And what I liked about it was it wasn't a crisp, clear image. It was essentially like dot matrix. It was just the green dots showing you enough that you understood the movement. You understood who was what and what was going on. But not, it wasn't like a crisp, clear reenactment almost, you know? And the really degraded ones, the echoes on the ship. Going up and down the halls. I got confused between the probes they sent out to go map it. And then those signals coming back. Or was that something that David had hit something? And all of a sudden they were seeing the old echo of the engineers hologramming down the hallways. What caused that to go off? I don't remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were cool. They were running around. Hey, look, space jockeys. He said space jockey. So there's a pilot or something. Yeah. That maybe wears. And we actually thought in the late 70s, early 80s, that could be a suit. That doesn't necessarily have to be what the alien looks like. We thought maybe that is a suit and a helmet. Good religious symbolism, sacrifices, beheadings. There's at least two good beheadings. And the fire and the phoenix rising from the fire as well. The character that got burnt. Right. We left him for dead. Oh, don't worry. We'll pull a die hard on you. We'll bring him back. And a little bit to scare your ass. I love it. They start thrashing and breaking into the ship. And the guy up on the bridge is like, what the fuck is going on down there? I didn't get as much working class struggle with management. It did have the classic trope of there's something weird going on. Let's open the door and find out. No, leave the fucking door closed. What a stupid movie, though. That's like, hey, there's a signal coming from this planet. Fuck it. I'm getting some cheetahs. I ain't going there. Terror and blood and the screaming. What was that in? Oh, but the terror of the blood. Oh, Event Horizon, which was actually pretty terrible. That was a scary fucking movie. Well, that's tapping into deep religious. There's a real hell. Don't worry. It's dimension and ships come in and out of it. I believe it. I believe in a real hell. I don't like that shit. I read the jaunt. The jaunt by Stephen King. And it's either a Ray Bradbury story or a Stephen King short story that's meant to be like a Ray Bradbury story. Right. May Bradbury rest in peace. The things that, honestly, the movies that scare me the most, the stories that scare me the most are the demon possession movies. Like, they had a house at the end of the street. They had a preview for that. But they also had this one, and I don't remember what it is. But it's with... Oh, what's the guy's name? From... A guy in the movie? Oh, the comedian? Jeffrey Dean Morgan? Jeffrey Dean Morgan. He's got this new movie coming out where he's, you know, dad, divorced, single dad. And, you know, it's called The Possession. And basically what happens is they buy this kitschy little box at a yard sale with Hebrew writing on it. And the girl opens the box, and apparently there's this demon in Jewish lore that comes after children. And so it possesses the little girl. And I just... Demon possession just, it scares me. Oh, Amityville Horror. We had all of them. Yeah. And we'd watch them from front to back. Amityville Horror is great. Exorcist is terrifying. Yeah. And I think that's the thing that really scared me about paranormal activity is because that's what it is. It's demon possession. It's demon possession. And it's like, ooh. Because I, you know what? Say what you want about me. Mock me, laugh at me, whatever. I believe it. You know? Like, I don't mess with that stuff. You never know, you know. I don't mess with a Ouija board because you don't know who you're calling. You know? You don't know who's on the other end of the phone. Not interested. Thank you to those out there who do it. Great. More power to you. Have a blast. Nowhere near me, man. That stuff is way more powerful than I am. That thought has crossed my mind, but I've done Ouija when I was a kid, right? Mm-hmm. Now, I even did a, when iPhone first came out, I actually created a Ouija app. Yeah. It was a web app. It's like a picture of a Ouija board. Right. You touch it and it changes to a different picture of a Ouija board. Ooh. Themed. It's gone. It's ripped off the internet. I don't even think you can find it in, like, internet archive. It's gone. Yeah. Tarot. I will read you Tarot. No, you won't. Really? You are afraid of that? No, no. I'll even use the Crowley deck. How's that? No. I don't care what it is. I'm out the door. You break out those cards, I'm gone. You'll see nothing but assholes and elbows, man. I'm just, uh-uh. I want nothing to do with any of it. Wow. Interesting. I'm not, and let me be very clear. I'm not disparaging on those who do. I'm not, you know, I'm not one of those people who's like, you're a witch. Let's burn you. No. That's not me. I'm not one of those guys. But I will have nothing to do with it. That stuff is- Fun. Cool. You know what? You don't know who's on the other end of that phone, man. Like, you don't know who you're inviting into your house. So, I'm not going to do it. Neurotimus. No way, man. I'll sit down and I'll watch a movie with you, man. But you break out those cards, I'm out the door. I'm gone. Go see the, uh, what was it called? The unholy, the unclean, the un-oh, God. Some- I- Bad. I love really, really bad. What was the one? Uh, I can't. I can't remember. Come on. That's too bad. Moving on. A lot of great scary movies out there. Holograms, Sleep Chambers. All right. Yeah. No. Holograms are coming. Yeah. They're almost here now. We're going to have glasses free 3D. I've already seen it on a Sony 3D camera they have. They had a huge- You know what I want to do? Like a big flat screen and then you had to wear the glasses flat screen. I want to start. I want to start a pool. Like what iPhone model will have the 3D FaceTime? Glasses free 3D. Oh. You know? Like the, because we have FaceTime now. We now have, because that's another thing that was predicted, like video calling. Like you don't just, you don't just pick up the phone and call somebody. You now look at them while you talk. So, like I want to set up like a pool. You know, everybody throws in like 10 bucks and then you, you, you guess the generation. You know, iPhone 16, you know, or iPhone 7. Like, because we're up to 4S, you know. Well, they already have, have you seen the 3D Sony and the flip out screen, which is like, you know, five by three inches or whatever? Mm-hmm. It's glasses free 3D and it's a trip. Oh yeah. You open it up and you're like, whoa. No. Okay. And there's a knob and it controls depth of field. And you can push it way out or you can make it come foreground, be flat, or you can make it really deep. Well, you know, they have, speaking of TED again, because I'm a TEDaholic, there is this guy who has developed a like heads up display anywhere. So like what you, basically what you're doing is, is you wear a little camera around your neck with, with a computer attached to it and a projector. It's a tiny little projector and it shoots up onto the wall. And you can. Yeah. Browse the internet. You put your hand in front of it and it has the keypad for a phone and you can make a phone call. It's like, it's, you're literally, you are now a roving media hub. You know, you could project a movie onto a screen, stand there and you can, you know, like. The behavior detection, like motion detection. Kind of, yeah. Like it, it senses your, your movement and your, it, it. Yeah. And the camera is like, like almost like a, a connect, like what you have on the Xbox. It's in there. And so like you, you know, and you just wear it around your neck like a lanyard and it's trippy. I like, I like. Anything else from those movies? Oh, the little stim pack painkiller shot thing. Oh yeah. Like the EpiPen. I'm sure that's, yeah. Epi, thank you. Done. Thanks Bones. Appreciate that. Yeah. I've seen all sorts of like live cat scan kind of things they got to with magnetic resonant. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like you no longer have to necessarily get into the giant tube. Like you just. No, I had a little problem with the giant tube. You claustrophobic? Yeah. I don't like to. Yeah. I'm pretty freaking claustrophobic. I am. How you doing in the studio, man? I don't want to get. It's fine. It's fine. Because our, the doors of our perception are opened here. It's fine. It's fine. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Just open it up. Touch of a button. Ooh. I just like for talking sub-vocal like that. It's really fun. I'm Batman. Harvey Dent's coming. Okay. Ray Bradbury died. Oh, that's really sad. I got it. He inspired me greatly. Dandelion Wine and RS for Rocket. Martian Chronicles. Good stuff. My favorite is the Veldt where the kids have the virtual reality room and stick their parents in there in the African Veldt with lions and lock them in and let the lions eat them. I like that one. He was part of my formative years both reading and then doing one project for him. And it was a scholastic, you know, funded kind of public broadcasting sort of thing. It would play in schools all summer in a day. Kids on Venus and rains all the time. Except for once every 10 years, the sun comes out for an hour. Have you seen that? No. All summer in a day? No. There's a little girl there that's from Earth and she saw the sun when she was younger, three or four. She kind of has memories of it. Right. The kids make fun of her. You never saw the sun. You're a liar. These kids have never seen the sun. Right. And she's like, no, I have. It's beautiful. It's warm on your face and this and you love it. And it's coming and they're preparing. They're talking about, you know, how to use sunscreen and protective goggles and whatnot. Their whole society exists with like rain gutters and rain gear and it's all waterlogged. So the sun, the sun finally does come and the kids run out in the fields and flowers instantly bloom on Venus, the planet, and they're running around and having fun playing with each other and feeling the sun on their face and they turn around and they go, where's, where, where is she? Where's, where's the girl? I played the character that locked her in a closet for the one hour while the sun was out and she doesn't get to see it. So we pick a bunch of flowers, go back and I try to apologize to her and she's like, you're a fuck. Cry, cry, cry. Cue the, cue the theme music. Shot out at this like artillery bunker in Long Beach near San Pedro and it's this military, it's still there, but it's all graffitied up and they've used it in a bunch of movies. It's this battery and it's really cool. So it's very industrial kind of a sci-fi as if maybe the Soviets built everything on Venus. Right, right. And I'm really, really proud of it. And so you can go see that on YouTube. There's a full, full like half hour version of it. You know, not in three parts and all summer in a day and some pedophile on tier at the top, little kids in their bathing suits. They have to, part of their daily routine is to stand in front of sun lamps and get their vitamins. Yeah, because there's no sun. It rains all the time, right? Right. They do that and then they start their studies. You know, it's just this routine that they have and then, then all hell breaks loose when the sun comes out. I'm really proud of that and didn't see or meet or anything like that Ray Bradbury at the time, but went on, it was at the Academy on Wilshire and they had a screening of the re-release of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Ray Bradbury was going to be there. So I brought a magazine. I brought this scholastic magazine that actually had a picture still from the movie we'd done. Yeah. Like, Ray, would you sign this? I'm so, you know, totally, totally signed it. Later, I'm like looking around for like, hey, what are these worth? Like, Ray Bradbury signs everything. It's worth like a dollar. There's no, his signature isn't, wasn't, wasn't worth anything. We'll see now. Check again. Like it's worth $2. That's right. I keep it. That's sad. We also, who do we lose tonight? Somebody, somebody obscure. It's funny though, try to do the rule of threes for celebrities, but they'll have to pull in someone that's like a composer or a DP, a race car driver. You're like, that's not, that doesn't really count. Really? Lindsay Lohan, truck driver is a liar. No, calling Bios. Oh, the truck driver's allegations were that she tried to flee the scene in the accident and bribe him. This is just allegedly and according to TMZ, Harvey Levins, the lawyer, go sue him. And she says, that's just, and then she tried to bribe him to shut up about the accident. You never saw me. I'm not here. Take some money and we'll just disappear. It's God swap. So you say back home, that's God swap. Oh, really? What? God swap? Or cod? Cod swallow. Cod swallow? I don't know where it comes from. I don't know. It sticks to the bottom of your shoe. It means it's horseshit. It's cod swallow. So Lindsay Lohan was due on set. I'm sure at some point today, I don't know what call time is for most people that are starring in a show, but it's usually like pretty early in the morning. It's lifetime. You could be on an afternoon scene. So she, the picture was heading north on the PCH under the California incline. Nor, I don't know how many sets are out there. Maybe they've got a nice set in Malibu for it. Wreck, big 18 wheeler. They're not allowed on the PCH. So I don't know what the 18 wheeler was doing on Pacific Coast Highway there. Interesting. Totaled a rental Porsche, Lindsay Lohan and her assistant in the car. And what, you know, she was injured, like bruises and scrapes and oh, there's bleeding. Her and the assistant went to the hospital. And now the story is unraveling that she was trying to just leave the scene of the accident and bribe the person. This is all allegedly. Of course. And she ran to the set and go, she's obviously in shock. Within hours, she was back on set after going to the hospital, getting treatment and then asking wardrobe and makeup to cover this shit up. She shows up to work, man. You don't get into the car wreck in the first place, but. And then the article, first article said something about heading back to set. So I'm like, this on a lunch break? Flying bad out of hell up into Malibu? What? Where, where's the studio? Oh, it's from, Burbank. You're not getting back to set on time. He had the wreck on purpose just to cover her tracks. it's Lindsay, you know, we go back to work when she shows up. We shoot around her. Yeah. Yeah. It's called Dick. No, they already made that movie. Oh. Maris Orvino. Very talented. Very, very entertaining too. I like that one. Kirsten Dunst and Maris Orvino. I like me some dick. Dan and Adia. That's what I hear about you. Oh yeah. No, I like cock. I like, I like, I like trying to be supposed to Kirk Cameron. I am a, that's right. I am a cock. That's right. That's right. I'm also a dick, but that's okay. I try to play Mr. Nice Guy, but sometimes I'm just a fucking asshole. Uh, so yeah, I mean, you know, she's still kind of having a little bit of a breakdown. Even if you show up on the set, oh no, it's not a problem. How, how hurt are you? How hurt are you going to be tomorrow? Are you going to be sore? Are you going to be, is that going to bruise? Uh, we're going to be able to tell in the final product. She'll be fine. At home, she's got all the painkillers she needs. Stop it. You know, like, do a little blow. She'll get right to work, you know. Well, everyone else, if you care about your health, you can get the Nutrition Action Newsletter. It's on available online. It's like $10 a year. You can get like a monthly. That's too much to pay for health. Workout. You don't have to pay anything. Google it. $10 a year. On YouTube, you can get like Tybo. It's all pirated and stuff. YouTube doesn't count for pirating. You can see something on YouTube. Great. Okay. They got plenty of ways to track and find and, you know, search for content. Any company that wants to take down content can submit a master file and they take the logarithm of the math of the audio and the video and get a good print and then anywhere it shows up, they can have like auto-finding software that finds it if it shows up, you know, uploaded onto YouTube episodes of, you know, Big Bang Theory or something like that. And their instant DMCA takedown because we've identified this as a match to one of our signals and boop, which down sends a notice. Enough of those and they yank the YouTube user account. Yep. So there's some very diligent people that go out there and keep creating YouTube user accounts, put up, get a good week of back episodes and a season of this, a few of this, you know, maybe all the premieres of everything that week and yeah, it's gone within a few days but it's just constantly cycling. It's this constant battle for them to keep this pirated material off of YouTube. Yeah. I, you can see almost anything on YouTube. Commercials, back stuff, weird, you type in something you want to see or a star's name and the word's full movie or full episode and there's plenty to watch. I brought up an ad that was, that's in front of the AMC trailers. If you go to an AMC theater, you see like the three kids going into the movie theater and then they sit in their chairs and they're sipping on their Coca-Cola in the chair. They're morphs into this like fairytale jungle thing and they're watching, you see the AMC on the clouds. I found it on YouTube. I was looking for it for something and I had to post it on something and so I found it. It's like. You can get the, you know, coming soon preview coming attractions on YouTube. You can rip, like download that off of YouTube. You can get the THX look. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. alert in marching band a trombonist. One of our warm-ups was to come out into the field and do the THX. You played the trombone? Yeah. I did too. You weren't a trombonist. I played the slide trombone. Your parents are still together? No. I don't know. They split up years ago. Oh, good. No. We had nine trombonists in high school and for some reason the teacher was like, you know, if you're raised in a family that's kind of separated or if you're from a divorce, raise your hand and all nine trombonists raised their hand. Broken home, man. Yep. Yep. You were a T-boner. That's great. Yeah. No. Yeah. Absolutely. Carried that fucking thing every day on the bus. Yep. I walked with the damn thing because you couldn't ride your bike with it. Nope. It's like my parents were always into like old and antique and this is original. This isn't the new and shiny that you want. This is something else. And it would be I had a trombone case that was wood and felt and the stuff inside of it and old good thick brass, not like new thin, you know. Ooh, it's an amalgam. This was like heavy ass trombone. Oh, and the spit valve. Oh, how gross was spit valve. Personal. It's great if the guy sitting next to you starts to bug the crap out of you. You just empty it, you know. Oh, I'm sorry. Was that your shoe? My bad. The trombones are in the front row. Well, yeah, because you don't want to hit anybody in the back of the head. 76 troms. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Stop it. Ow. Well, what a great show. We have four minutes, 20 seconds left. We appreciate everybody listening in to our discussion. And really, you know, this is about a few things here on the call sheet. We have many shows. It's kidrostudios.com. There's sex shows. There's sports shows. There's news shows. There's morning zoo shows. We thank you for choosing to listen to the call sheet. Before we sign off, this has been Gabriel Merrill. Hey. How you doing? Good times. All you got is hey. How you doing? Good times. My name is Keith Coogan and I did some movies and I know with which I kind of sort of am talking about. Doesn't that sound shitty? And I also, you know, ain't Christian Slater. Thank God. I like your movies. Some of my favorites. Who could, yeah, no, I've always, I had a problem growing up as a kid. All teenagers are like, oh, he throws the ball better or this guy's got a better bike. So, oh, he got you know, Gremlins or he got Rudy or he got. I still can't watch Gremlins. I still cannot watch that movie. You can't watch Gremlins? No, no. When I was a really, when I was a little kid, during the day when my mom would go to work, she dropped me off at a neighbor's and this neighbor was like a demented woman. And I must have, been like five, four, five years old. And she sat me down and made me watch Gremlins and told me that if I misbehaved, the Gremlins were going to come and get me. What a cruel woman. I know, right? Like, talk about a bitch, you know? But so, and even like when I went to work at Warner, when I first moved out here, my very first job out here was a tour guide at Warner Brothers Studios. It was one of the most fun I ever had as jobs go. And one of the houses, still to this day, on the back lot is the house from Gremlins where the woman comes flying out of the window. Cool. You know? And so one of the things I made a point to do when I started working there was any story that I told in my tour, I made sure to watch the movie so that I could, you know, kind of recreate that moment for the guests. And I sat down to watch Gremlins and I just couldn't do it. Couldn't make it through it. I don't know, you know, like, it's ingrained in me from like childhood that these, these things are going to come and get me. Like, if I misbehave, if I'm bad, like, er. My parents made me watch 1941 and said if it was ever bad again, they'd make me watch 1941 again. Um, that was almost a spit take. That was nice. Uh, no, I was raised on a nice diet of, I live next door to one of the DPs of Close Encounters and Spaceballs down the street from Lou Adler who produced Rocky Horror Picture Show. Larry Hagman and Burgess Meredith were neighbors. One of my favorite, to this day, one of my favorite lines in a movie is in Spaceballs. And it's when they're combing the desert. It's like, you found anything yet? No, sir. I haven't found anything. Have you found anything yet? No. Nothing yet, sir. You found anything? We ain't found shit! Shit! That's good. That's the only blazing humorous type, blazing saddle humor. Spaceballs, I didn't like it as a kid. I didn't like Spaceballs. I liked Ice Pirates. I loved Spaceballs. Ice Pirates is the best. Well, uh, well, thanks, uh, sci-fi. Best favorite sci-fi movies? Uh. Fifth Element, Alien, Star Wars, Star, Trek. I, I, there's so many, I gotta admit, and this is where my, this is where my geek credit comes out. Serenity for me is one of the best, like, you know, I mean, cause it's got that Joss Whedon humor. It's, it's, there are times where it's scary, it's a badass, like, you know. Somebody describes Serenity as a spaceship where everyone on board is Han Solo. Well. Thanks for listening, everybody. Have a great, uh, great day, night, morning. It could be like three o'clock in the morning. Whatever time you're listening to the podcast. Yeah, thanks for tuning in and, uh, uh,