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A Connecticut woman has been arrested for domestic violence after allegedly handcuffing herself to her husband and repeatedly biting him.
The estranged couple Robert Drabow and Helen's son were attempting to talk things out.
Drabow says he fell asleep and awoke to find his wife had handcuffed him to her.
Some claims it was the only way to get him to talk.
Drabow can be heard on a 911 call he placed screaming for help.
My wife has handcuffed me.
I need assistance right away.
What happened?
My wife has handcuffed me.
She's attacking me.
She's handcuffed me.
She's handcuffed me.
She's attacking me.
I have not done anything to hurt her.
She has a record of violence.
Please come and help me get out of here.
Where is she now?
I'm holding her down so I can call you.
Please send someone.
Is there any way that you can lock yourself in another room?
No.
She's handcuffed herself to me.
Please send police.
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And your name, sir?
My name is Robert Jabba.
Are there any weapons in the house?
I don't know.
Knives and such.
I don't know what she got before she handcuffed me.
There could be...
Ow!
Ow!
What is she doing now, sir?
She's digging her head out!
She's biting me!
Are they almost here?
I can't get to the door to open it.
Okay, is it locked?
The door is locked.
Okay, so they're going to have to break in?
Yes.
What started this, sir?
Do you know?
Why did she do this?
Because I divorced her.
I decided to leave her.
And...
Ow!
Ow!
What is she doing?
Ow!
Ow!
What is she doing?
Oh, God!
What is she doing that's making...
She's biting my arm!
Is there any way that you can put something so she can't bite you?
No!
I'm just trying to use every hand to keep her away from me.
No pillow?
Ow!
Ow!
Ow!
Ow!
I need help!
Okay, don't...
They've been on the way since you first gave me the address.
I'm just trying to keep you on the phone to make sure that everything's okay.
Does she have any knives or anything that she can grab or anything?
I don't know what she has. 833 Punk...
The Pale Road.
I know, sir.
I already have the address.
They've been on the way for a couple minutes now.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm so sorry.
I just...
She just came out of nowhere and handcuffed you?
Yes, when I woke up.
Where in the house are you?
I'm in the back bedroom.
Back bedroom?
No, back bedroom.
Drawbell was treated for bite marks in the torso and arm area, as well as a laceration to the forehead.
We'll do it live.
Broadcasting from downtown Los Angeles.
We'll do it live!
Fuck it!
It's the More Music Radio Pod.
Do it live!
I'll write it and we'll do it live!
On skidrow.la!
Fucking thing sucks!
In... 5... 4... 3...
Hey, what's going on, everybody?
It's the More Music Radio Pod.
It's July 7th, and we're having another party here at Skid Row Studios.
All right.
Hey, I was just thinking, this is episode 13, and these are like two hour long shows.
And that means that we've like wasted an entire day of our fucking life doing this.
That's right.
I mean, it's cool.
I mean, it didn't sound like it's cool when I said that.
Is that what 13 times 2 is?
No, well, this is 13.
Like a day.
So we're starting a whole other day.
We wasted like a day.
I wasted many days.
Introduce me!
But this is going to be good.
Jesus!
Jesus!
Jesus!
Jesus!
We're starting a whole new day, and this is going to be good.
Hey, so what's been going on, Dan?
What's, uh, what's, uh...
Hey, can we swear on this thing?
Uh, yeah, sure.
Hey!
Let's GD great!
No, but this is going to be special, man.
We got a pretty hot guest.
It is a special night.
We have Dino Stamatopoulos.
You may know him from Mr. Show.
He was a writer on a bunch of stuff.
David Letterman, Conan O'Brien, he was part of the first team that created that thing.
Moral, oral.
Moral, oral.
But more, more importantly...
Right?
Right.
I don't know if anyone knows this, that anchor woman who just did that story about biting the arm?
Right.
She's hot.
I sat right next to her just now, and I felt her, I felt, I felt her pussy.
Cool, man.
I like to do that, man.
Which is weird, because I'm sitting next to you.
What did it feel like?
Yeah, the other side, Joe.
Oh, wait, are we going to introduce Joe?
Are you always here?
No.
No, uh, and we also have Joe Russo of the band Remake Remodel.
Very hip band.
Yeah.
And, uh, we got Jeremy, we got Dan, and, um, we're going to talk to, uh, Dino Stamatopoulos.
Are you cool?
You got, you want to talk to us?
Yeah, I'm cool, but first time for a song.
Yeah, all right.
Why don't we jump into a couple songs?
Oh, really?
Jesus.
Oh, man.
That was perfect, man.
I knew it.
Because we're late right now.
God damn it.
I just want to jump into shit, just play the shit, and then we'll get right into talking.
So bored.
Talking to, uh, Dino Stamatopoulos.
More vodka.
And, uh, we will be right back on the More Music Radio Pod.
Don't take this offensively.
The More Music Radio Pod.
Oh.
Did you tell me not to do that?
Skinroad.la.
Oh.
Oh.
We'll be right back.
We accept you.
We reject you.
We're living in a, we're living in a, we're living in a soft world.
We're living in a, we're living in a soft world.
And we sink to holy hell on a motherfucking tour.
But I can't get my fucking balls off the fucking wall.
My body's cock getting rusted.
You catch gangrene trying to hop on that nasty shit.
My crotch looks like the elephant man.
Take my hand and get the hell in the van, bitch.
I was grabbing my fuck and my hand got stuck.
Sound like wet Velcro when I stand up.
It's the 8-Bit Crew, so who the fuck is you?
Cause my shit don't stink, but my mustache do.
Better pay my ass and stop being an oaf.
And I'm a bitch.
And I'll pay you back in muscleball and soup, ho.
You can get me in the VIP.
I'll take a whiff of my big ass queen.
Bye.
Back wings.
Back wings.
Back wings.
Back wings.
Back wings.
Back wings.
Back wings.
Back wings.
Get your balls.
Get your balls.
Get your balls.
Motherfuckers.
Get your balls.
Get your balls.
Back wings.
Back wings.
Stop the drop.
Stop the drop.
Yeah, so like, um, they smell like shit and they suck live.
And I totally gave them my cherry.
I will fly.
The shuttlecraft needs a new AC.
It's hot as hell and my nuts are stuck to me.
Drippin' round, itchin' like a prostitute.
But I could jump out a plane without a motherfuckin' parachute.
Face jumpin' while the bass is plumpin', ho.
But I stop to do a pinch and roll.
These damn robots will tour the world.
But we're just like Rocky the Squirrel, ho.
I believe I can fly.
My back wings can't touch the sky.
I dream about them in the night and day.
Sweaty sack take me away.
I believe I can soar.
With my slug stuck to a hole.
I believe I can fly.
I believe I can fly.
Don't you know my balls are swellier than I fresh air clean?
And the way that I fix them use some Irish spray.
Don't you know my balls are swellier than I fresh air clean?
And the way that I fix them use some Irish spray.
Don't you know my balls are swellier than I fresh air clean?
And the way that I fix them use some bachelor's name.
That's what I'm saying.
Okay.
This is Eddie Murphy.
Party all the time.
You know, I have a friend who caters his parties.
It's a true story.
And he just sits on his balcony and watches everyone party.
Before that, I'm Bubble Hill. 8-Bit with Batwings.
And Nutra, before that, Soft World Vahe, a good friend of mine.
What up, Vahe?
Vahe's a good friend of ours.
Is he listening right now?
Hopefully.
I told him that you were going to.
Why doesn't he call in?
I know.
Why don't you call in, Vahe?
He's probably working right now, man.
That guy works like a fucking maniac.
But I do have a friend who caters Eddie Murphy's parties.
And he tips really well, apparently.
But he never sees him.
He's always up in his room.
He's always overlooking the party in his robe.
All the time.
All the time.
Do you think he tips more if you let him see your feet?
Does he have a foot fetish?
He has like a feet thing, yeah.
Oh, that's interesting.
He has like a man's.
I do, too.
But I don't have a man's foot fetish.
No?
He's just like women's feet.
Yeah, I love them.
I like hourglass feet.
Are you into like shoes and stuff, too?
Like the shoes that women put on?
Only if they show feet.
Like a...
Like invisible shoes?
Or my kind of thing.
Only if they're smashing your balls.
Hey, come on.
That's the other fetish.
We're only talking about one at a time right now.
Jesus.
You move too fast.
Well, if you guys are just, quote unquote, tuning in to the More Music Radio Pod, we have Dino Stamatopoulos in studio.
All right.
Yeah.
Yay.
Woo!
I'm clapping for myself, because there's only three of us, because Joe won't even clap.
I have the clap.
Yeah.
But I literally clap for myself.
Is that a humblebrag?
I don't know if it is.
Sound of a thousand crabs clapping.
I'm still unclear about the humblebrag.
You don't know what a humblebrag is?
Explain the humblebrag.
Well, it's not mine.
Well, the concept.
It doesn't have to be yours.
It's this guy named Harris Whittles.
He created it.
And it's just a Twitter account where you can contact him if someone humblebrags.
And a humblebrag is like, ugh, had to go to this red carpet tonight in a limo, and they got a flat.
Can you believe my luck?
I'm such a loser.
That's a humblebrag.
But the best humblebrag I ever read was a woman, and she just said, all these motherfucking dildos are too big.
I love that he picked that as a humblebrag.
You can tell that she was, like, really angry about it.
I don't think she was bragging.
She was bragging about having, like, a really tight vagina.
Yeah, tight, sweet vagina.
She's got a tight box.
Women don't.
Man, why does pussy gotta be so tight?
It sucks.
Women don't brag about that.
They hide that shit.
Because they know I'm out there for them.
Yeah, FM.
Well, let's test your humblebragging skills, man.
Yeah.
We're talking to David.
Dino Stamatopoulos, and it's just really cool to have you in here because you've written on Mr. Show.
You've been on Mr. Show.
Yeah, I wrote on Mr. Show, but, boy, long hours.
That's a pretty good humblebrag.
Man, Conan O'Brien.
Conan O'Brien was fun.
That was at the beginning, but, boy, was I green.
I didn't know which way was up.
And David Letterman, you've hung out with him.
Oh, David Letterman, yeah.
He's always been my favorite, but I wasn't very good.
I wasn't very good on that show.
Actually, I wasn't.
So where did you get your start, man?
I know you're from Chicago, so what is a young boy growing up in Chicago?
Well, what do you mean start?
Because, you know, I mean, I take things literally.
Do you mean when did the sperm enter my mother?
Do you mean when was I interested in writing?
Start from when you popped out of that tight box, man.
Okay, them's fighting words.
And we're both going to...
Punch the shit out of my cock right now.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
Okay, so, yeah.
Well, like, I know you from Mr. Show.
Like, Mr. Show is, like, one of my favorite...
It's, like, in the top three.
There's probably, like, five or six in the top three.
You and what army, buddy?
Everyone loves that show.
I know Dino does.
Yeah, you're not so hip.
But I am getting lessons to be hipper.
Doing the graphics on that show is such a drag.
All right, Joe.
Snort his way in.
Dino does a lot of behind-the-scenes work.
You know, he's mostly a writer and stuff.
Behind-the-scenes work?
You mean, like, doing shows on Adult Swim?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well, I'm just saying, you know, you're not in front of the camera too much.
But in case people...
Actually, I saw the dueling Lincolns today on YouTube.
Oh, nice.
That was pretty good.
Yeah, but he's...
That was not pretty good, by the way.
I thought it was good.
Really?
Okay, well...
But, yeah, before I came down the show, I was watching reruns.
I was watching reruns.
Of Community, and Dino's on that show.
So just in case people can, you know, paint a picture to the voice.
Yeah, my community.
He's a...
Was it Mr. Side...
Starburn?
Mr. Sideburns, I think they call him.
Mr. Sidestars.
That's the name of our studio, too.
Mr. Sideburns Industries.
There's no connection between Starburns Industries and Starburns, the character name.
Okay, well, here's the story.
No one knows what you're talking about.
I'm just clarifying that, just in case everyone ever wants to reference this podcast.
I know, I'm being a dick, because I...
That's inside jokes, of course.
Because you just realized where you're at right now?
You're like, oh, shit.
So, yeah, I played this character called Starburns on Community.
With Chevy Chase, man.
Yeah, with Chevy Chase.
But then we opened a studio, Dan Harmon created Community, Joe, here.
Yep.
Me and James, who...
James.
I mean, I don't think we're...
I don't think we're...
I don't think we're...
I don't think we're...
I don't think we're...
I don't think we're... saying anything bad, but, you know, he's gay, right?
Yeah, he's...
Hey, I think he likes us talking about him.
He loves us.
We should probably give out his number.
It's probably good for his game.
Shit, it is, you know?
He's...
But, so, we started it, and we didn't know what to call it, and either Joe or James, was it you?
No, it was me.
It was me.
Yeah.
I came to Dan and I and said...
Let's call it...
Or Dan and me.
Let's call it Starburns Industries.
And it's my character, and Dan created the... the character, so we both, being egocentric narcissists, said, yeah, great name.
Plus, it was...
It made for an easy logo.
You can't see that on radio or podcast, but...
Just like a star.
Someone help me.
No, I'm gonna let you drown right now.
As if I haven't drowned already.
But, yeah, so...
So, yeah, man, tell us about your start.
You started as a stand-up comedian or something.
I mean, how did you get into the comedy?
I started at...
Oh, you guys don't even turn off your phones.
That's Dan.
We can right now.
He said, don't talk about Starburns.
Wait, who's calling?
Is someone calling to talk to me?
Is it a fan?
No, it's just actually a neighbor saying we're being too loud.
So, I kind of keep the voice on.
Hello.
Hello, caller, you're on the air with Dino Stamatopoulos.
This is Fast Curry.
I'm trying to get in.
I got your bucket of kimchi outside.
No, I can't get in the door.
I'm trying to get in.
We'll be right there.
Everybody...
I'm trying to get in.
You ordered some food, right?
Yeah.
You want to come in and bring that kimchi?
Show us your feet, too.
There's nothing like hot kimchi on a warm summer night.
Come on, guys.
Don't ruin my fetish.
So, what's going on?
Who is that guy?
That's Patrick from our band, The Mormons, and he's outside the door trying to get us to go and open it.
So, we got Dan running downstairs to go and get it.
I guess we got to do that.
Yeah.
I think it's about time for another song.
I think it's about time for another song.
I think it's about time for another song.
I think it's about time for another song.
Tell him to grab a beer on the way up.
Oh, no.
Wait, what?
We have to go through the whole timeline of your career, man.
Okay, so here's what happened.
I went to Columbia College in Chicago.
It's not Columbia University by any stretch of the imagination.
It's spelled with Ks, basically.
Right.
That's kind of like the equivalent of PCC over here.
Columbia College of Chicago.
They're all Ks, even Chicago.
I'm not going to say that.
I'm going to say that.
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No wonder you're so famous.
No wonder I'm so funny.
Where's kimchi?
Okay, so Andy at some point came out to L.
A.
I'm skipping a lot of crazy shit because Andy from day one said to me, you know, I'm going to be famous.
And this guy is such a fucking crazy freak.
I can't tell you.
Andy Dick?
I mean, even back then.
And I looked at him and I said, yeah, you are.
I knew he was going to be famous even then.
Just from the shit that he'd do.
Oh, yeah.
He'd be famous for a different reason, right?
Completely driven.
Well, no, he'd be famous for the exact same reason.
Grabbing guys' dicks.
Is that why you made him the voice of Jesus?
Yeah, I thought it would be funny if Andy Dick played Jesus.
You know, it's not the most hilarious thing.
But he even said to me, why is it funny?
Because I'm the devil?
You think I'm the devil?
And I said, Andy, I had him play Jesus for my show, Mary Shelley's Frankenthal.
Okay.
Don't pay attention to the phone, Randy.
This is really distracting.
And he said, you want me to play Jesus because I'm just the devil and you think that's funny, you think it's ironic.
And I said, well, you know, you're not the devil, but Jesus wouldn't have a bracelet on his ankle.
Right now, monitoring his alcohol intake.
And he started laughing.
He's like, you got to put that ankle bracelet on Jesus.
And we did.
We actually put it on Jesus.
Oh, man.
You should give him a call, man.
You think he's up right now?
What's he doing?
Oh, he's up.
Actually, he quit drinking for a while.
So let's see.
Again?
That's not me calling Andy.
So, um.
You worked with Andy on the Ben Stiller show, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he kind of got me the job.
I mean, he definitely wanted people to read my stuff and they ended up liking it.
He maintains that he made them like it because he's a narcissist.
Hey, Andy, you're on the air.
It's Dino.
Hey, can you hear me?
You know, we can call him and then he can, everybody can hear him.
Andy, can you hear me?
Yeah.
He hung up on your ass, man.
Oh, yeah.
He couldn't hear me.
Well, you know what?
We'll try to get him on the line.
But from what I read, you actually.
You know why he hung up?
Because I said you're on the air.
Oh, really?
And he didn't know.
You think he's like uptight or something?
Well, no, he got a new phone and he probably didn't put my name in it.
And I said, you're on the air.
And he probably thinks it's just an asshole.
And he's not.
Partially.
By the way, he's not going to answer anymore tonight.
Probably.
Oh, man.
Because I fucked up.
Oh, shit.
Well, leave him a voicemail or something.
Text him and let him know that we're going.
Yeah, text him, man.
We have the technology nowadays.
Yeah, I'm going to text him.
You guys.
Joe, you talk about your career.
Well, I was a competitive roller skater in the 80s.
Right.
That's not inline skating.
This is.
No, this is old school.
This is like when men were men.
Eight wheels and some polyester.
Hold on a second.
But only on the off season.
I played.
If there's a lot of people.
If there's a lot of people.
If there's anybody that wants to be a screener, please contact the More Music Radio pod. 800-893-9562.
Yeah, just call and interrupt the show with your.
Nice.
But the Ben Stiller show is actually where you got your start, right?
You notice how I'm not interesting at all.
Yeah.
Just keep cutting me off.
I'm typing here and he's asking me questions.
Yes, it's where I got my start.
Yeah, no.
Andy got the.
The.
The.
The.
The job on the show.
I think they call it acting.
You wrote something like that you submitted to the Simpsons.
Yeah, I wrote a.
Well, first, Andy and I wrote a Ben Stiller show together and where we wrote Skank and a couple of other bits.
And.
And then they said, well, we don't know what you wrote.
We know Andy's funny.
We don't know.
Maybe he wrote most of this.
So I submitted a Simpsons spec that I wrote when I didn't even know what a spec was.
I was just.
It was fan fiction.
What is a spec?
I don't know what a spec is.
Oh, a spec is what you give.
It's an already existing show and you write a script for it and you give it.
You usually give it to.
Jobs that you want to write.
And then you see if you're good or not.
Yeah.
So Andy Dick is actually.
Oh, he says I couldn't hear you.
Oh.
So I'll call him on the other phone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what?
Maybe we can after after we like play another couple of songs in a little bit, maybe we can have you call him and we'll get him on the air in the next in the next segment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I worked on The Simpsons, too.
Yeah.
What'd you do?
I was an artist.
I didn't.
Are you serious?
But you're not even listening.
I didn't work on The Simpsons.
I wrote a Simpsons spec.
Hold on.
I never got paid.
I'm just trying to be relevant.
Yeah.
But you're irrelevant in your relevance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Every time I talk, someone cuts me off.
You got your foot in his spotlight.
Well, because you don't know what you're talking about.
I do.
I did work on the show.
I know that much.
You said, too.
I didn't work on The Simpsons.
You didn't?
Ever?
I mean, I know someone did.
Conan.
Okay.
So he worked on The Simpsons, too.
As well as Conan.
And speaking of Conan, you actually worked on like the like the first like incarnation of The Simpsons.
Yeah, I was hired as the director of the Conan O'Brien Show when he took over for David Letterman, Yeah, I was hired before the show began.
Andy Richter was there.
Smigel was there.
Robert Smigel and Conan was there.
And I showed up.
And it was my first time in New York, and I was really excited.
And that was after the Ben Stiller show was canceled?
Yeah, I was going to drop out of show business because I didn't like working on the Ben Stiller show, to tell you the truth.
Why not?
Because I had just gotten off of working with Andy when we could do whatever we want.
And I just felt like there was a very narrow kind of point of view, and it wasn't allowing us to really be funny.
And I'm like, well, I hate TV.
Really?
I mean, because I thought the Ben Stiller show was actually, you know, one of the shows that kind of started that kind of, like, humor, you know?
And then when Conan O'Brien came out with his first show, at first, like...
No, I don't think so.
I think...
I think, like, Letterman started it and The Simpsons.
And I wouldn't give that credit to the Ben Stiller show.
I guess I would credit David Letterman for that because I remember when I was a kid, I mean, I fucking loved the David Letterman show.
And then when he decided to move to CBS, I was like, oh, man, look at this guy who's going to take over, this fucking big, giant fucking copperhead guy.
And I'm like, oh, man.
Yeah.
You know, he looked strange to me.
Because he's white?
Not just that.
It's usually the gingers that look the most freaky.
Yeah.
With, like, freckles and stuff.
I understand he's, like, 10 feet tall, right?
Well, not quite.
I mean, you know, he's, like, nine.
But, I mean, when I saw the first episode of Conan O'Brien, I was just like, holy shit.
Did you watch the very first one?
This guy.
Yeah, I saw the very first one.
Yeah, no.
He was awkward.
Did I write the first episode?
It's a talk show.
Yeah, I wrote his awkwardness.
I'm like, okay.
He has stammer here.
No, but his audition, I feel like still, to this day, his audition is better than I've ever seen him on television.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's on the Tonight Show set.
And he's just being natural.
And he's not trying too hard.
I still feel like he tries too hard.
I like Conan.
You know, I kind of sense that, too.
You know, I think he's, I thought that he might be able to do more now that he's on TBS.
You know, he's on a cable station.
I haven't seen the TBS version of him.
You know what?
To tell you the truth, I've only seen like two episodes of it.
You know, it's a...
He does a lot more.
Give it a chance.
Yeah, you know, man, I fucking, I love Conan, you know.
But it's the same thing with like when David Letterman went to CBS.
Like, it seems like he like lost some of like, some of his like his oomph.
You know what I mean?
Like he kind of gave up a little bit or something or had to fit into these narrow like constraints that you're talking about.
And...
Maybe you just hate change.
What do you mean?
You just don't like change.
You like things the way you like them.
And then when things happen that are different...
Well, you think you know me or something?
I do know you.
I do know you.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
That's right.
I want to see you guys fight.
That's another fetish I have.
It's a hot night, too.
They'll get all sweaty.
So tell us about like, how did you get your foot in the door and get in with the Conan O'Brien show?
Did you know Conan before or it was just through friends of friends or what?
No, I actually, after the Ben Stiller show, I had an agent.
And she sent...
I remember writing a packet of ideas that I narcissistically, egocentrically titled The Blackjack of Comedy.
It was 21 ideas.
And I was like, every idea is going to be amazing.
And Robert and Conan actually ended up liking it a lot.
So...
Yeah, I was going to drop out.
I was going to like ride my motorcycle across the country.
Instead, I flew first class across.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Did you wear a leather vest in first class?
Yeah, exactly.
I had a fan on my head, like make sure my hair was blowing back.
Yeah, and I got there and it was Andy and Smigel and Conan.
And I was like, okay.
I'm in New York and the best food in the world.
And they're like, we went out to dinner and they said, hey, you know, I want to check out the Planet Hollywood.
It just opened up.
I just came from fucking LA.
We're going to a Planet Hollywood.
They wanted to make you feel at home.
Yeah.
They didn't give a shit about me.
They wanted to make you feel at home.
So when you turn your back, they stabbed you in it.
Yeah, exactly.
Taking you to Planet Hollywood, like taking Chinese people to Pan Express, kind of like that.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
It's good that you're here.
Let us take you to your food.
Yeah.
I hear these chicken strips are shaped like Sylvester Stallone.
What?
So did you enjoy working on the Conan O'Brien show?
I mean, it is TV.
Yeah, that was a lot of fun, actually.
I had a lot of fun working on that.
And Conan was, you know, I don't know if he's still the same, but we would be sitting there writing, and he would come in and play guitar and just make us laugh.
Like, he was entertaining.
He was writing for us.
Yeah.
And that's the one thing that, like, struck me when I first saw Conan on, you know, the first late night with Conan O'Brien.
He seemed like a really cool and, like, smart dude, and, like, he had, like, really great timing, you know?
And it even, it superseded his freaky look, because since that first show, I fucking love Conan O'Brien.
And to this day, I love Conan, and I'm always, like, you know, I'm always, like, rooting for him, you know?
We have to specify to the audience that the guy who's saying Conan has a freaky look is this dark little, what are you, you're Mexican, right?
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, you know, you're kind of stout.
I got papers, man.
You're the opposite of Conan, basically.
Pretty much, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's like this long, stretched red guy.
Mexican boy.
Mexican Belushi.
But, yeah, man, so how long did you work on Conan O'Brien?
And what was some of the stuff that you did on there?
What was some of your stuff?
Nothing anyone will probably remember, but I worked on it for the first year, and I did a bit called Conan Babies, where it was, like, Max and Andy and Conan and Babies having crazy adventures.
Yeah.
I always had...
Max say caca for some reason.
I just always liked it.
And then I did this bit called Slim Organ Body, which was like Slim Good Body, only instead of...
Yeah, the guy with all his parts on the outside.
Instead of the patterns on his clothes, he actually had his innards on the outside of his body.
Wasn't that guy like a public access guy or something like that?
Yes, the original guy.
Yeah.
What was the original guy's name?
Jesus, I don't know.
I'm talking about my bit.
Did you write for him?
He was great.
That guy had some good bits.
Do you have his number?
We're trying to book next week.
I had his record.
It's like Spinal Tap coming in.
It's like, you guys know Metallica?
Not exactly.
But yeah, man.
So what are some of the other stuff?
Whoa, you really did your research.
Man, I fucking love...
And tell us what happened.
I know we talked about...
I'm testing you.
You do anything else?
You want to make sure you get it right.
What?
Wait, everyone's talking at once.
Don't worry about it.
We tend to do that here on the More Music Radio Pod.
Hey, speaking of more music.
Hey, it's about time for a little more music.
No, no.
So wait, what are some other things I did?
Jesus, you're really making me work.
Because I think like the...
After Conan, I...
For me, the first year of the Conan O'Brien show was like the best.
Hey, I really...
I've done a lot of stuff other than...
I've done a lot of stuff other than Conan, actually.
Right, we're going to get to that.
That's what he's trying to get to.
We're going to get to that.
But I'm just getting to the media.
I mean, thanks for helping.
We haven't even got into the Mr. Show shit yet, man.
Yeah.
Well, after that, I left and I was like, I'm getting out of show business.
This sucks.
No, I didn't.
I just needed a break.
You know, the thing about doing the first season of Conan is two months are spent writing one episode because it was the first show.
Right.
You know, and it hadn't aired yet.
So we're spending two months like picking the best bits and working really hard on this show.
And then it premieres and we're like, woo, yeah, it's over.
All right.
Now we get to...
No, it's every day after that.
What's the schedule like?
It was bad back then.
I can only assume it's gotten better.
But because Smigel was in charge and, you know, we had like a bit in every act.
But it was like we worked till like two in the morning, you know, three in the morning.
But it didn't matter because I was like 27, didn't have a girlfriend.
I was in New York for the first time in my life.
I didn't know where to go.
So I was happy to be working.
Now, forget it.
You're over it.
Yeah, I don't.
I go home at fucking...
When do I go home?
Sometimes I don't show up.
Sometimes.
So you stayed there for a year.
And why did you leave?
I just got burnt out, basically.
Just the schedule was just too good.
And I felt like the show was on firm legs at that point.
I've never been on a hit show, really, in my life.
You know, I've always left either before it became a hit.
If you want a show to be a hit, get rid of me.
Now, first, you'd have to hire me.
So, you know, I kind of got that shit covered.
But, yeah.
Yeah, I've never been on, like, a real hit show.
I've been on critically acclaimed shows, you know, like Louis' other show that no one...
The one on HBO.
Yeah.
Oh, man, that's another fucking show that I was like, oh, man, this show's going to do something, you know?
Yeah.
And what happened?
It just, nothing happened to it.
Yeah, because I was on it.
Yeah.
You'd notice his other show.
So you didn't leave before it got canceled.
See, that's the thing.
They got to fire you first, or you got to leave before that happened.
They should explain that.
Like, dude, just give us two more months.
We're going to fire this dude, and we'll be fine.
Exactly.
I was actually...
Where was it?
Oh, I was...
We were doing the commentaries on Community, and we were talking about third season and, you know, how to really make it.
And I said, guys, fire me.
That's really all you have to do.
They might do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, maybe they'll keep you and just fuck themselves.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I don't think so.
And you, on Conan, you worked with Louis C.
K.
Louis C.
K. is like, in my opinion, like one of the best comedians ever.
Well, why don't you have him on your stupid, shitty show?
You know what?
Let me talk to Joe and see if he knows him.
You know?
And maybe we can get Joe to get him on too.
I know Louis.
I could do something for this show someday.
Well, hey, tell you what.
Let's take another break and play a couple songs, and we'll get into it.
Spend some discs.
I'm going to show...
Dino my feet, and he's going to masturbate to them on him.
God damn it.
That's it.
I didn't say anything.
I've lost my heart on public knowledge.
All right, bitch.
Hold up.
How the fuck up?
You got to stop this.
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Kettle wine, I love it And beer And beer, oh And some pot And some A little bit of that A little bit of that A little bit of the Yeah, yeah, a little bit of the I know, a little bit of the We got uppers, we got downers You know, a little bit of the I actually really slapped my face Oh God, careful I'm not there, I'm supposed to do that No, really, we used to have a bit Where I would Every time I would do it, he would say Next time, hit me harder Yeah, and then every other time I'd be like, you dislocated my jaw I hear a ringing in my ear Just so you know I can only talk for a couple minutes Because we're right at the tail end Of a movie, me and my family Oh yeah, what are you watching?
You're at the theater, that's really cool That you made this call to the theater Isn't that sweet?
What are you watching?
We're watching Funny People Oh my God, that's so perfect Shut up, yeah You're throwing gum at the screen Yeah, you're not funny I'm funny You're impression of me, I love it Dino's one of my best friends I've known him for like 25 years Yeah, he was telling us I was telling the stories Yeah, there's a lot of stories There was just one from last week Yeah Do tell, we heard What was the one from last week?
Just where I went to your office The drawing room Looking for you You were at your real office Right, the drawing room's a dime Yeah, I love that bar Right across from you from the rest again?
Oh yeah, I write there Yeah, exactly But he writes his scripts in there But he really was at his real office in Burbank And I was there and the bartender called him I mean, he has that close of a connection with the bartender Called him, he ran over because I forgot to sign I didn't know why you were I thought you were coming to see me But then he pulls out this paper that I forgot to sign When I did Frank and Hole Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah I do like seeing you Oh, I loved I was so excited to see you I was kissing you all over You were like my aunt It was hilarious But anyways, what is this podcast?
What are you doing?
Oh, well, let me tell you I don't know I don't know I said, Dino, let's go do a podcast And he goes, okay, cool And I said, do you want to hear some of the old ones?
And he goes, I don't care He just likes to have fun.
What, do you know these people, Dino?
Well, Joe, who got me this gig, is my partner at Starburns Industries, The Castle.
Yeah, and I play in a band with Vince over here in a band called Remake Remodel, but he's doing it through the Mormons, which is another band.
Andy, you'd love it.
They play a lot of cool, hip songs.
Oh, you have, Dino, Dino has such good taste in music.
And he always turns me on to really fucking good music.
By the way, these are two grandmothers talking, yeah.
How about some Nick Cave nowadays?
Oh, you love this band.
You love Simon and God, Bob Cole.
I heard Jackson Browne played the other night.
Did you hear of the Femmes?
Saw him at the Hall & Oates concert.
Did you go?
No, actually, I didn't.
My best friend did.
Wow.
All right, your family's waiting.
Yeah, they really are.
They just walked in the room and walked out.
I understand you're not drinking right now.
His family's waiting.
I'm not drinking, I know.
I can't believe your family's waiting, and he's digging for dirt now.
Well, let me tell you.
I know, listen to him.
But listening to you guys, I wish I was over there drinking, but, you know, this is fun, too.
I love being with my family.
You should be.
So you're just hanging out in the shed watching funny people, right?
No.
No, he's letting the house.
Oh, they let you in.
Yeah, sometimes they let me in the house if they put some papers down.
These fucking assholes.
I'm hanging out.
I love you so much.
All right, bye.
Thanks a lot, Andy.
Bye, buddy.
Thanks, Andy.
Thanks, man.
Thank you, Mr. Dick.
Wow, thanks, guys.
That is such a surprise.
I really wish that Funny People wasn't on pause right now because there's a lot of shit I wanted to ask him.
Holy shit.
I think you heard about the not drinking question.
Hey, you know what?
Have me back next week.
We'll hear all about Andy Dick.
Maybe you shouldn't have ostracized him by, hey, you're not drinking anymore.
Hey.
I don't know if that was ostracism.
We're drinking Kettle One right now.
What are you doing?
Watching Funny People?
It's so cool.
No, Andy is one of the sweetest guys when he doesn't drink.
No, seriously.
He really is.
Well, that was really sweet of him to come on.
That was cool.
Wow, man.
That was really fucking cool, man.
Thanks for interrupting his movie.
Yeah, yeah.
This is big stuff for you.
It is, actually, man.
I know.
Now that you're here.
You can see us in person and realize how much, you know, whatever.
Never mind.
Maybe, you know, next week, who knows?
Maybe I'll do a Melrose Larry King for you guys.
Oh, my.
I actually have a Melrose Larry King Andy Dick story.
I think I have his number.
I think you do.
Andy Dick tried to get me out here because he wanted to write a Willy Wonka 2 script where he played Charlie.
But as Willy Wonka, like, he's taken over the chocolate factory.
And we'd get Willy Wonka to be, like, the old, the granddad.
And he's like, I know someone who knows Gene Wilder.
And I was like, wow, that's interesting.
And I don't remember.
Maybe I was excited.
Maybe I'm playing it down.
Maybe I'm trying to be Mr. Cool.
Maybe that's why I came out to L.
A.
I doubt it.
But the guy that he introduced me to who knew Gene Wilder was Melrose Larry Green.
Yeah.
The guy who holds signs up for Howard Stern.
Who I didn't know at that time.
And no one knew.
And then years later, he's, like, you know, one of Howard Stern's crazy.
Yeah.
Are you a fan of Howard Stern?
I love Howard Stern.
Yeah.
I fucking love that guy, too, man.
I listen to him every day.
Were there a lot of fans of Howard Stern when you were working on Conan?
Because Howard always says that, oh, man, these guys are stealing my ideas and stuff.
Is there any, like, validity to that statement?
I don't think so.
I mean, he, you know, he...
I think he said he was doing the lips, clutch cargo lips thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Before us.
And, you know, that's one of those things where, you know, I grew up on that.
Yeah.
I brought it up.
I brought it to everyone's attention.
But everyone knew about it, you know.
And, you know, I think, you know, Howard probably had the same idea.
Right.
You know, I know Howard isn't as original as he says he is.
There was a guy in Chicago named Steve Dowell who started, like, in 78 who did almost the exact same thing as Howard.
And I felt like in a very more...
Like, I think Howard plays it up a little bit more.
Right.
I mean, he's more of a showman and he's great.
Right.
This guy, Steve Dowell, was really good at just being himself and having his wife yell at him in reality.
And I knew it was a great show because I would turn it on.
And I always had...
I had it tuned right there.
And I turned it on and for the first three seconds there would be silence.
Because there was just lulls.
It was like...
You turn it on, click.
Yeah, so I don't know what happened.
It was like...
It was just talking to your friend.
Right, right.
Like, he wasn't a showman, Steve Dowell, but he was very real.
And he was doing, like, crazy shit for radio in a way that wasn't crazy.
Like, you know...
I mean, he did the, you know, throwing shit out the window and stuff like that.
Mm-hmm.
But he was also just...
And then David Letterman ripped that off, right?
So everybody's ripping off this Dowell guy.
Well, that's what...
That wasn't what was great about Dowell.
Dowell was ripping off Steve Allen, probably.
You know?
What Dowell did great was he was not afraid to be boring on the radio.
Which is like, you know, back in the 70s.
Everybody's talking like this.
And so afraid to be dull.
And he was like, yeah, I don't know.
I just...
Ten seconds of silence.
I love that shit.
I'm not even brave enough to do it now.
And no one's getting paid for this, right?
I am.
I don't know about you.
Oh, okay.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Take it out of your pizza.
So, yeah, man.
So you left the Conan O'Brien show.
What did you do after that?
Little unemployment.
Just hung out.
And saw Dominatrix's.
And then went to the Dana Carvey show.
Robert Smigel quit.
And Louis C.
K. quit exactly the same time I did.
To steal my thunder.
Like, I decided first.
You know?
I actually wanted to do the Louis show.
I was like, I want to do the show called Louis.
Where a guy's a dad.
And trying to get stuff.
He's like, I'm going to do that.
He had the name.
So...
But we did the Dana Carvey show after that.
So, like, what made you want to get into that kind of grueling schedule again?
Because you said that you quit Conan because it was just too much for you right now.
Right.
It wasn't as grueling.
It was like one day a week as opposed to every day of the week.
Oh, okay.
You know, it was like prime time.
A lot more money.
Robert promised that it would be like a show for comedy writers.
And, you know...
Charlie Kaufman had a job on that show.
Is that how you met him?
Yeah.
That's how I met Charlie and Louis C.
K.
And John Glazer and Robert Carlock.
And, like, a lot of great writers started there.
And there were a lot of great sketches that didn't get on because, you know, we had a lot of premises that were premise-driven.
And Dana does characters.
Right, right.
There weren't a lot of character writers on that show.
What was some of the stuff that didn't make it?
One of my favorite bits...
One of my favorite bits...
One of my favorite bits was Charlie Kaufman had an idea called, you know, Weird Al Yankovic had a brother called Weirder Al Yankovic.
So, where Weird Al Yankovic would take Beat It and turn it into Eat It, Weirder Al Yankovic would take Eat It and turn it into Shmeat It.
And then you find out in the middle of this documentary, this crazy documentary, that he has another brother.
He has another brother called Normal Al Yankovic who takes Eat It and makes it Beat It again.
Yeah.
And they didn't want to use that.
Yeah, I don't know why.
It seemed like it would have been perfect for Dana.
Why is a lot of this stuff rejected, do you think?
Well, like I said, I don't know.
I mean, that seemed perfect, you know.
It also seemed very premise-driven.
I can't tell you.
There were a lot of ideas that were...
There was one idea, I don't know if it was Charlie's or maybe it was Glazer's or Carlock's or someone's, but where it was a character who always had to be audible with his internal bodily functions.
Like he would have to, like, with his heartbeat, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
And, you know, blink, blink, blink, blink.
You know, he'd have to just do that.
And Dana could never get the rhythm down, you know, perfectly.
Like he's like a genius.
He's a genius on some level and on other levels.
Oh, he's a pretty good drummer, too.
You'd think he'd figure that out.
Yeah, you'd think he would.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
I think he probably just didn't like the bit.
It probably would have died, I know, to be honest.
But, yeah, so...
No, that's better to blame him.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah.
You know, Robert, I think, turned down a lot of ideas because it was the Dana Carvey show and it was about character instead of, you know, this conceptual idea that writers think is funny.
And, you know, like what Mr. Show did really well because it was performed by the comedy writer, you know, kind of like Monty Python was.
Right, right.
But that wasn't the case with the Dana Carvey show.
Right.
And do you think it's because the networks have, like, different kinds of constraints than...
Well, we didn't listen to the network, certainly.
I mean, the first episode showed Bill Clinton breastfeeding dogs with his six nipples.
And babies because he wanted to be more motherly to the country.
Louis wrote that.
That was the first sketch that went out there.
And that's what killed us, apparently.
You know.
How long did the Dana Carvey show run?
I think either six or eight episodes.
Did you stay on that one till the end?
Aha!
Yeah, I stayed till the end.
It lasted three minutes.
Whoa.
You really did it.
I climbed that midget's shoulders.
Yeah, man.
So, after the Dana Carvey show, I mean, how many shows are you working on at one time?
Oh, just one.
Believe me, I don't have that.
Really?
Yeah.
Because, like, in these notes here, it shows, like, some stuff, like, overlapping and...
Like what?
Let's see.
It said you were working with TV Funhouse, like, in 96.
And...
Let's see here.
Maybe I'm just full of shit, man.
Maybe I'm just drinking.
No, you know, I mean...
I'm not trying to read that.
No, IMDB is full of shit.
Yeah.
But sometimes, like, you know, Conan, they just asked me back for one episode to do, like, the Thanksgiving Day Turkey.
Did you get close with Conan?
I mean, all this time, like, well, for the year that you were there, like, riding with him, did you get, like, really close?
Yeah, we were, you know, I mean, we were friendly.
I don't think we ever connected on a spiritual level.
But we, yeah, I mean, we were friends.
You know, he gave me...
I remember one time he gave me his phone number, his home phone number.
And that night, I got really drunk and I gave it to this girl.
And she called him immediately.
And I'm like, okay, that's it.
Oh, man.
He might hate me.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
When was the last time you talked to him?
I can't remember.
There was one time...
I don't know.
I visited Chicago when the Conan show was there.
And I went backstage and it was the end credits and a marching band went out and I walked out with them.
I was actually in the end credits, pretending, like, miming a trombone or something like that.
And I was like, okay, they're going to cut this out.
And then I watched it, like, later that night.
And I'm still in it.
I'm just, like, walking around.
Just me, this long-haired weirdo.
And I saw him backstage.
He was, you know, he's friendly.
He's not a confrontational person.
No.
No.
No, he's not.
I don't know.
He might like me.
He might not.
I don't know.
I only think that people hate me because I'm such a drunk.
I don't know what I do to people.
I started a business with you.
Yeah.
But you know that people hate me.
Well, you know, they tell you not to start business with your friends, so...
Right.
So, Joe knows what he's doing.
Friends.
Yeah.
I know.
So, after the Dana Carvey show, you went to the David Letterman show?
Yes.
Went to the David Letterman show.
I wanted to work.
And that was when it was the late show, right?
He moved to CBS earlier.
Yeah.
And he was really struggling to keep up with Leno.
And I just wanted to go because he was a hero of mine.
Right.
And I knew it wouldn't be a good time.
And it wasn't.
It wasn't?
What was wrong with it?
They just, you know...
They, nothing.
It was both of us.
Really?
It was a 50-50 thing.
That cunt.
Let's get dark.
I hate her.
Let's just get dark.
That Letterman show.
I just, I wasn't that into it.
I wouldn't write the top 10 lists.
Finally, I remember one time they said, you got to write the top 10 list.
You're working on the show.
And...
Which one did you write?
There were...
Do you remember?
It was a Clinton one.
Because I remember I just...
I wrote the hackiest shit.
Like, eating McDonald's burgers.
Jogging.
Jogging, right.
You know?
And before that, I had tried to write, like, some smart ones, quote unquote, you know?
And they never got on.
And when I tried to be hacky, I got, like, six.
Six jokes on.
So, what's it like being on a show, like, just joining a show for writing for one of your heroes?
It was...
It was...
Great, because I got to go through the library and watch all the old shows again.
And remember, you know, I remember, like, watching them first run and thinking, wow, these things are killing.
They're so funny.
And then I'm watching them, you know, as a comedy writer, and I still think they're funny, but I'm not laughing out loud.
And I realize the audience isn't laughing at all.
On those tapes, on those old 80s tapes.
And realized that I was drowning out the non-laughter in my living room, you know, just by Catholic.
So, that freaks you out when you put your stuff out there and just there's no reaction, right?
When you're a comedy writer and that happens...
And they're not laughing?
It depresses you more than anything in the world.
And it was kind of uplifting to watch the old Letterman shows and seeing that that never got laughs.
But I know that was the funniest that show's ever been.
You know, back in the early 80s.
But see, with, like, those studio audiences, though, I mean, those are, like, mostly, like, just, like, lame tourists.
That's what it was at first.
Yeah, they didn't know the show.
It was like, well, there's this late-night show, and I guess we could be on the boob tube.
You know, and a bunch of families go on, and they're like...
Let's go see this David Letterman.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, that's what it was like on Conan.
I remember the first season, the first season, the first month, I wrote a bit called Conan's Opposite, and it was a short guy, and his hair was up in the back of his head, and, you know, just...
It was Vince.
Yeah, and I thought, come on.
The show's been on for a month.
Everyone gets it?
No, it took, like, two years for audiences to understand who Conan was.
You know?
Yeah, I mean, but the thing is, is, like, the most, like, funniest stuff is, like, stuff that usually the mainstream people aren't going to get, you know?
And, like, you're usually trying to get your stuff in there, but still pandering to the people who are going to, like, bring ratings in.
You know, so that's kind of...
Yeah, the funniest stuff to you, because you like that kind of humor.
I mean, who knows?
What's the funniest, maybe the lamest shit, as far as I know.
Yeah, I mean, and look at that.
Jay Leno is still on top, right?
Yeah, it's like when Conan got kicked off Tonight Show, and everyone said, Leno sucks.
Well, no, everyone didn't say that.
Right.
The hipsters...
And, you know, the comedy people said that.
Right.
Most of America said, Leno's amazing.
You know?
I mean, Leno got the Tonight Show back for a good reason.
He got ratings.
Right.
I mean, the thing is, though, is just, like, when I see, like, the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, I think it's just, like, this is, like, complete shit, and, like, I can't understand, like, why so many people are fucking into this fucking lame fuck.
Yeah, a lot of people like it, but don't worry.
They'll be dead in two years.
I mean, they're, like, 90 years old.
Unfortunately, they're the guys that turn on the TV the most.
I mean, what do you think about what happened to Conan, man?
I mean, because that was really fucked up.
I mean, he...
That was his dream to have the Tonight Show, right?
I don't think it was that fucked up.
I think what happened was what happened to everyone in show business.
If your show's not good enough, it gets canceled.
Right, but, I mean, Jay Leno didn't have to jump back on the...
The Tonight Show.
I mean, the first...
The reason why he got it...
What would you do?
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, if you tell somebody...
You would jump back on the Tonight Show if it was you.
You think...
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, like, does Jay Leno, like...
Does he have a soul?
I mean, is there anything about this guy that's, like, a real person, or is he just, like, a fucking...
I don't know. ...empty-headed fucking robot, you know?
I don't know.
I mean, look, does Conan have a soul?
Does Letterman have a soul?
I think they're nice guys.
Hey, go easy.
I don't know.
Dino might have to work for him.
You don't want to fucking blow a job, man.
Come on.
No, I'm shitting on everyone.
Believe me, I'm fucking myself all across the board right now by saying people who really want to be popular on late-night television, I mean, are they real people?
I don't think so.
They're nice guys, you know?
They're funny, but they want to do that more than anything else in the world.
I would...
I don't...
I would rather spend a night with my daughter than... have to spend it trying to be funny on fucking stage.
So, I don't know.
Well, I mean, because Conan looks so happy on The Tonight Show.
It's just like, here's a guy, like, accomplishing his dream.
Yeah, that's fine.
And everybody knew he wasn't going to...
But does that mean he has a soul?
No, it means...
I don't know.
If that's your dream in life...
Is there something about Conan we should know?
Am I liking the wrong dude?
No, no.
I think you're liking him for the right reasons...
Right. ...because you like that, too.
You probably want to be that.
You probably don't have a soul.
But when he took the Tonight Show...
When he took the Tonight Show job, I knew that he would...
You're right. ...that he would have to give up.
He would have to give up a little bit of his edge because he has to pander to the people who are going to die in a couple years.
Right.
And I think that maybe that was, like, a conscious kind of decision where he just kind of waited and he's just like, fuck it, I want the Tonight...
What is it with this Tonight Show?
Right, he wasn't true to himself.
He probably should have...
He should have done what he was doing all his years.
He should have done Late Night, which is just be true to yourself.
That's the way you're going to make it.
Right.
And, I mean...
Look at me.
I'm making $20 an hour and I'm, like, preaching to Conan.
Yeah, but, I mean, I just don't understand what is it about this Tonight Show that everybody, like, wants it so much, you know?
Because even, like, with Johnny Cobb...
Well, I'll tell you, that's really fascinating because the reason Conan wants a Tonight Show is because Letterman wanted the Tonight Show.
Conan doesn't give a shit about Johnny or Leno.
He cares about Letterman.
Letterman wanted the Tonight Show because of Johnny.
And he was obsessed with Johnny.
Right.
Conan is like Letterman, only instead of being obsessed with Johnny, he's obsessed with Letterman, you know?
Okay, so...
Johnny was probably obsessed with Jack Parr.
He was obsessed with fucking Steve Allen.
I can keep going, kids, but you're not going to be entertained.
Yeah, man, I mean, I just, like...
Because, like, I was always more of a fan of Late Night with David Letterman.
And then when he left and went to CBS, there's something about that time slot where it just makes you lame.
Yeah, they were doing something that wasn't true to themselves.
And did you feel that when you were working on David Letterman?
Like, just like, oh, man, this is lame.
Did you feel bad for him or anything?
I didn't feel bad for him because...
Well, because he's a rich motherfucker.
Well, yeah, I mean, and he made who he is, you know?
I mean, people are in charge.
They're in charge of their own happiness, you know?
I'm never going to be happy or sad for someone because they have money, but, you know, who they are as people always kind of touches me in some way.
Did you have any interaction with David Letterman while you were working there?
Yeah, a little bit.
When I first met him, he smiled a very strange smile and shook my hand.
But one time I was waiting on the ground floor for an elevator.
There were three elevators, and two were for everyone, and one was for Letterman.
Okay.
And the one for Letterman was worked by this, you know, this black elevator operator.
He had a black guy pushing him.
I don't know if he had two, but he had one.
And so we were waiting for our two elevators, and Letterman walked up and kind of just as an aside said, Anyone want a ride?
And he walked in.
And it was my first...
It was my first time.
It was my first time.
It was my first time.
It was my first time.
It was my first time.
It was my first couple days there, and I said, Sure.
And I realized no one else moved.
Right.
And I'm like, Oh, shit.
Okay.
Pussies.
No, I...
No, believe me, I turned into an instant pussy.
But I still walked into the elevator.
And instantly...
Well, first of all, Letterman's using...
He's, like, working the lever.
Like, the black guy is just standing to the side.
Yeah.
Because Letterman's in control.
I'll be the black guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Letterman, like, has race cars.
So he loves...
This is, like, you know, his two minutes of race car driving during his day going up with the elevator.
And...
But he starts in talking to this elevator operator, and he says...
And I know it's a fucking scripted, in his head...
It's a bit.
Bit, where he just says, Oh, so you make gallons of it, huh?
And the guy went down...
Gallons of what?
I don't know.
Okay.
Yeah.
But the elevator operator...
He's a fucking weirdo.
That's right.
Like, without missing a beat.
Oh, yeah.
It's great.
He's like, Oh.
Letterman's like, Ooh.
Just tubs of it, huh?
And it just sounds so fake and phony.
But I know he's just doing this so he doesn't have to talk to me.
That's the only reason.
And we get up to the seventh floor, and we're on the eighth floor.
I can't remember the actual floors.
Not you specifically.
Not you specifically.
Just whoever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
You're watching my back.
I got you.
I got your back.
Yeah.
I think he's afraid.
But also someone who's going to take him up on riding the elevator.
He's like, Oh, this guy wants something from me.
You know?
This guy's going to pitch his pilot.
This guy's fired in one week.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wish.
But so we get up to the seventh floor where he is, and I'm on the eighth floor, and the door's open, and no one moves.
And I just...
Oh, I guess I can walk up from here.
And I walk out.
And as I walk by, he just whispers in my ear, good luck.
Like, good luck walking.
I'm a flight asshole.
But I also have to say that I don't think, you know, I know what it's like to have like a bunch of sycophants around you.
Right.
And I mean, I don't know what that's like.
I've never had it.
But I can imagine, you know.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And so I don't blame him.
But...
What did you think about him?
I did back then.
I was like, you know, a cocky asshole.
What did you think about him as a person, like with that interaction and...
Well, I mean, I thought he wasn't a person back then.
Now I've rethought it, and I realize he gets hounded a lot by people.
Right.
You know?
But back then, I was like, come on.
I just came off of Conan.
You want to...
Right.
You want to find me and dine me, basically, to come on the show, you know?
They wanted Conan writers on that show.
And I was the only guy who quit.
Besides Louie.
Louie was on there, too.
Oh, man.
So you had that interaction with David Letterman.
And, like, did anything improve?
Like, did you feel like, oh, you know, I can kind of stick around?
Or you were just like, oh, man, this isn't working out.
Or, you know, I kind of...
No, I...
I'm not having fun.
Did you have fun on that show?
I just had fun.
I just had fun walking around and talking to people.
I never really wrote anything.
I mean, I wrote, like, a few things that got on.
But it wasn't...
You know, I mean, I think part of me was spoiled by, you know, everything I wrote on Conan got on.
And very little of what I wrote on Letterman got on.
So I was, you know, I was kind of a jerk, you know, about it.
Hey, back then, did he have that sex room where he was fucking all the interns and stuff?
Was there anything like that going on?
I refuse to answer that question.
I don't even think you want to know.
I do.
I do want to know.
Are you kidding?
I built that place.
No, I don't.
I have no idea.
I do know that he used to pay a...
Let's just say I heard that he used to pay a head writer to watch him.
The head writer would...
He would buy the head writer a Kobe steak every week.
Because Letterman apparently didn't eat on Fridays.
And he would just watch him eat.
At all?
What a fucking weirdo.
And that guy is, like, so, like, strange to me.
And I love the guy, you know, but he's just, like, so uncomfortable.
Maybe for that reason that he just has to kind of draw up, you know, draw up those walls, you know, because everybody's coming at him.
I don't know if this is true.
And I also don't know the legality of saying this on a podcast.
I would totally eat a steak.
That's pretty awesome.
Oh, no.
I mean, I...
Is that good?
And also, I understand watching someone eat.
When I would fast, I would watch the Food Network constantly.
That's torture.
I'm a masochist.
Yeah.
Oh.
Now I get it.
I feel like we're running out of steam.
So, after the David Letterman show, you went to Mr. Show.
Now, this is where I know you from.
This is where I saw you come on the scene, you know, because, I mean...
I had no idea up until, you know, more recently that you wrote for Conan and you did a whole bunch of stuff.
And I'm like, oh, man, this guy's coming in?
Yeah.
And then I looked back at you and we winked at each other.
Yeah.
And then I went on.
Yeah.
I mean, that was actually, apart from Conan, that was like the most fun I've ever had on a show.
I mean, that was like every idea that was funny got on, you know, and in some way or another.
Certainly, you had...
If you had a funny germ of an idea...
It grew on both sides.
It was like, okay, so what makes this idea funny and how can we expand on it and how can we create a bigger, more universal view of this idea?
You felt like you had more space to, like, work and you felt more comfortable working on that show?
Yeah, it was freedom mixed with a very strict idea of let's make this bit universally funny.
Let's not just make it a goof.
He bit.
Why is this funny?
Why is this funny on a social level, you know?
Right.
And that was what was fun about that show.
Was that because of Bob Odenkirk and just his...
I think Bob definitely drove that side of it.
He definitely wanted every funny idea to have a backbone, you know?
Like audition.
Yeah.
I mean, that came from just, like, doing a bit.
You know, I did a bit.
I would get together with my friends and we would go on stage and do fake auditions.
And that's where that...
That one stands out.
I fucking love that one.
One of my favorite ones ever.
But, yeah, and then that kind of bled into another scene and it bled into a whole, you know, just idea.
But, yeah, I mean, yeah, definitely Bob.
One of, you know, people compare it to Monty Python.
Where one...
One sketch leads you to another.
Yeah, right, right.
But the big difference was Monty Python used it as a crutch in a way.
In a fun way.
Like, if they couldn't think of an ending, they went off to another idea.
We had to think of the ending to the sketch before we went on to the other idea.
Every sketch had to stand on its own, you know?
Yeah.
If you look back at all those...
Yeah, the transitions are both, like, seamless.
Right.
Yet going in a completely opposite direction.
Yeah, they're like rerunning them on IFC and, like...
My friend was watching them.
Like, that's the first time that he's seen them as an IFC.
And, like, they got the...
I think those will always...
The interruption, you know, the commercial interruption.
And it kind of, like...
I told him, like, you kind of, like, need to see it, like, completely uninterrupted to, like, really, like, appreciate the whole...
I think those episodes will hold up because they're not just a gimmick.
They're actually strong sketches.
And there's bits and pieces of stuff you don't even know about.
Like Minocchio.
I worked on...
On those sketches with you guys.
And until I saw you, like, Facebooking that Minocchio was Minocchio.
Oh, right.
Well...
Oh, yeah.
Minocchio.
Yeah.
Jay Johnston wrote that bit.
And...
There it is.
And...
I heard that on the commentary.
Yeah, it was...
It was ridiculous because I got mad at him.
I'm like, that is a great joke.
He's like, I was too embarrassed.
Like, that embarrassment would have gotten you an Emmy.
Yeah.
Me no see you.
So, I was reading your...
So, you won an Emmy.
Is that right?
Yeah, that was right at the beginning.
That was Ben Stiller's show.
That's pretty...
The show I least respect.
Where is that Emmy right now?
Where is it sitting?
I gave it to my parents immediately.
Because they were...
I actually won it on the date that my dad first came to America from Greece.
Wow.
Like, that date.
Yeah.
Is it an honor?
What?
Is it an honor?
Is it an honor to get an Emmy?
Or does that just mean like, oh, man, the fucking 70-year-olds think I'm funny?
I would like one for something I like doing.
You know, Ben Stiller's show was my first show.
And I was, you know, I had just come off of just doing whatever I wanted.
And I didn't feel like that show held up as a comedy show.
And I still don't.
I don't think it's that great.
I don't know why we won that Emmy.
You know, I think, you know, maybe Ben's a Satan.
I have no idea.
And the Ben Stiller show is where you met Bob Odenkirk, right?
Yeah.
And what's Bob like?
Is he like a weirdo like David Letterman?
Does he have any weird quirks or something?
Bob tries harder than Letterman.
Like, he wants to be a normal guy.
It's like he read a book on how to be a normal guy.
And he sees you on the street and he's like, hey, Dino.
God, it's good to see you.
And you feel like he really wants to say that, but it doesn't feel like that.
Like the prototype of a human being?
Yeah.
My girlfriend actually was at Gelson's and she's like, you know, I saw this fucking really uncomfortable looking man at Gelson's and it was Bob Odenkirk.
Yeah.
Nice guy.
Never had a problem with him, you know.
I mean, I just think he, you know, every comedy writer is awkward in their own way.
He has like a genius sensibility, though.
You know, it's just like even just like some of his like mannerisms and stuff are funny.
Right.
And I mean, that's what I like the most about like Mr. Show, especially his character where he's like at the donut shop and he's like, I guess so.
Yeah.
And then when he's at the museum, it was a museum.
He has amazing insights.
You know, when they were working on the movie, I wasn't working on Ronnie Ron Ronald, but there was a draft of it where.
It was Bob Odenkirk as a character.
Ron Ronald was your show.
Run, Ronald, run.
It's run, Ronnie, run.
Oh, right.
Sorry.
Run, Ronald.
There was a Mr. Show.
It was a little Mr. Show.
See, I'm confusing everything.
And I'm drunk.
Mary Shelley's Frankenhold called Ronnie Ron Ronald.
Here you go.
Yeah.
Did that have anything to do with run, Ronnie, run?
It had to do with Ron Howard fucking himself as a kid.
Yeah.
No one's seen the episode.
Boy, they love that.
That was great.
They love that pitch.
I miss that episode.
No, I was thinking of Ronnie.
Run, Ron, run, run, run, run, run.
Well, I didn't work on it.
And I didn't actually see that movie.
No one did.
But there was a great first draft where Bob played himself having to move back to Libertyville, where he came from with his parents.
And that was the funniest part.
It was hilarious.
The episode or the movie for me.
I thought the animated titles were really good.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Were there animated titles?
I did them.
Oh, did you?
And were they in the actual show?
Yeah, they made it.
They made it to the cut.
Oh, okay.
Is that a humble brag?
No, that's just a brag.
That's just a brag.
So how long did you work on Mr. Show?
Part of second season and all of third and fourth.
Oh, all the way to the end.
Yeah.
And then it died.
See?
Yeah.
I mean.
You should have quit.
You should have quit, man.
I know.
I mean, once it died, it took off because I was nowhere near it.
Where did you go then?
Like right then?
Then I went to New York and worked on TV Funhouse with Smigel.
Why did Mr. Show stop?
Everyone got exhausted.
I mean, sketch comedy is, after a while, is exhausting.
Right.
You know?
And it's almost kind of good that it ends before it jumps the shark.
You know?
Yeah.
It's like nothing to cap on it about.
And we felt like HBO kept moving it around and not giving us a real time slot.
And then money just kept, like it kept staying the same instead of like creeping up.
Like they kept promising.
I can't remember that.
Well.
To tell you the truth.
I was in that conversation.
Right.
So then you worked on TV Funhouse.
Yeah.
Cool.
Yeah.
Next.
And that's a wrap.
But I mean.
Well, we're done with.
You're like.
Mr. Show.
You're like a.
You're like a.
Yeah.
Mr. Show.
Mr. Who.
Mr. What.
Like.
It's almost midnight.
You essentially like.
You said an hour.
Worked on Saturday Night Live.
Right?
No, no.
This was the.
Well, yeah.
It was TV Funhouse.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
So you worked on the Comedy Central show.
Did you have anything to do with the ones that were on Saturday Night Live?
No.
I think I helped Robert very slightly work on one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I'll tell you the seasons I liked.
I don't even like the Belushi seasons that much.
I liked the, there was one season with Harry Shearer, Michael McKeon, and Christopher Guest.
That was amazing.
That was like maybe the third or fourth season.
And they did amazing like National Lampoon type shit there, you know.
Martin Short was on that season.
You know, I read something that you actually wrote something for a Saturday Night Live that didn't make it.
Oh, yeah.
It ended up on Mr. Show's, the folk singers who sang about like, they tried to be liberal.
They didn't really know what liberal meant.
They're like, well, we love the Indians.
We should forgive them, you know.
Or we should say you're welcome to black people for freeing them.
You know.
And I actually, yeah, I wrote it for SNL.
Ginny Garofalo said you should write something.
So I have this idea.
And Michael McKeon learned the song.
And G.
E.
Smith, you know, taught him the song and shit like that.
And it was, and we went to the read-through.
And the read-through is like four hours long around an office and a table.
And I wasn't even at the table.
I was like outside the office.
It was like so crowded.
And I was like.
Happy not to be there.
I'm like, okay, I'm going to keep my distance.
I'm going to watch how it goes.
I'm going to run, you know.
Yeah.
And it came time to do the first song like after three hours of waiting.
And my, I think my bit was last or second to last.
It came time to do the song.
And Michael, you know, G.
E.
Smith played a chord.
Michael McKeon said, I don't know this song.
And G.
E.
Smith said, where's the guy?
Meaning me.
Oh, man.
So you had to go up and do it?
I had to go up and sing the song.
And I'm like.
Do you think he really didn't know the song or he was just trying to fuck you over?
I don't think either.
I think he didn't.
He didn't like it.
He didn't believe in it.
Oh, okay.
I think he saw how the rest of the read-through was going.
He saw where it fell.
He's like, yeah, it's not going to do well right now.
I'm not, I'm not going to.
Wouldn't you just say like, I just don't want to do it.
No, because he's a fucking coward.
So I had to do it and bombed and, you know, the only thing I took away from it was a mediocre story that I told on the show.
Well, cool.
Why don't we play a couple more songs and we'll be back with more mediocre stories from Dino Stamatopoulos.
Hey, can you play the Mormon's High School Dog Kid?
Yeah.
Sure, we'll play that soon.
Okay.
That's brand new.
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we uh we got together and and he said i want to do this thing because i don't like where i with this studio i'm working with and i said will you guys do this for me and and they said well why don't you be a partner yeah i said why don't you just do yourself and he's like i don't know how and i said i do and and then we did so this is like all the like stop motion animation stuff yeah yeah it's actually a great place it is the facade is an actual castle you guys got to come by friday night you can't think okay we will yeah we'll take the the mormons mobile unit and we'll bust the show for you how about that all right don't even tease me don't even bullshit yeah and don't act like it's a new idea joe already told me yeah right i know all right yeah fuck it up all right sounded great we're not show break down the fourth wall but uh yeah every friday night we show weeklies which is like the week's worth of work uh which is like five minutes yeah with stop motion so and then we have beer and fried chicken and then the mormons play all right cool yeah we'll show you our feet come on i didn't say shit so no no i mentioned you're you're not even listening to this podcast these are really nice headphones he's got like he's got a whole new show on who knows so are you happy are you happy with your career so far i mean yeah i'm happy i mean who wouldn't be happy no i am i'm actually very happy i uh not on thursday here and i i like i like being a loser you're saying you're saying i'm happy as you're caressing the kettle one bottle right now he's actually he's actually you're not lying i'm very happy you're not lying uh no i am i i i uh uh you know i i guess everyone wants to be liked a little more right i mean don't make me cry what are you barber i thought uh so you're an emotional person i am an insecure yeah sometimes i cry and it's really i miss my mouth with the kettle through my eyes uh but uh yeah i don't know if i'd want to be you know i think i think if i wanted to be i don't know i don't know i don't know if i'm happy so where do you see yourself i mean right now you're working on uh frankenholer you're working on adult swim is that like a glamorous lifestyle no no but i don't know if i'd want a glamorous lifestyle hey man cartoon network man all right i i feel like i could have stayed on uh conan if i wanted to be more successful when when i when i finished actually uh the ben stiller show my agent said uh fox offered me a um uh a big deal like a big uh development deal if i would go on and write for the uh what's that show uh married with children oh shit yeah and i didn't like marriage with children at the time yeah uh and i and and my agent said come on this could work it in it could be millions of dollars and i said i don't i didn't want to do it you know so i didn't do that now am i a little bitter about it now i have a kid yeah i'd like her to eat for the rest of her life but if i did do it i probably wouldn't have met her mother i don't know if i would have met her mother i don't know if i would have met her mother and we probably wouldn't have had a kid right so it's hard to say am i happy i don't know i'm never gonna be happy it could be a billionaire how did you meet her mother she was uh my dominatrix leading question i did a little bit of research yeah she told me never to say this on podcast but i figured i i i follow you guys on twitter you got 24 followers we're on deep deep deep internet like i could say anything you did your research yeah i fucking murdered a guy yesterday this is gonna be careful this is a reach of cops in 40 years apparently that doesn't matter as long as you tried in florida whoa when is this airing that's a little too topical no he's not hot enough you know i'm not hot enough he's not gonna get off so um tell me you're you're actually you were talking about uh mr star sideburns uh that's a reoccurring that's what you called him mr sideburns mr starburns no mr sideburns mr sideburns yeah well there's a character that you're a kind of a reoccurring character on community kind of he's constantly almost reoccurring and chevy chase is on that show and you got any che stories i mean i understand that guy's kind of a dick right i mean i like him and i kind of like that i will i will preface the answer to that question with i'm kind of a dick you're kind of a dick right uh right yeah he's kind of a dick in the way that he's a human being yes yeah i mean and you know i uh he was you know he was probably more of a dick than us at some point but he was also way more famous than us um he he actually was on he was a guest on conan that followed one of my bits that i worked on for like weeks and he came on after it and said conan that bit that you just showed that that was pretty dumb and i hated him for years but then i i came did you admire him like back in the day or something and and then he says this thing to you i you know i i was not i didn't know him at all but i was kind of a dick in the way that he was doing it and i was kind of I did not admire him the way I admired Monty Python or Albert Brooks or Woody Allen.
You know, I mean, he was definitely someone that.
Did you berate him the way you berated Eric Idle?
Can we do one story at a time, please?
That's the only transition I have.
Well, you know, you derailed.
You didn't transition.
Well, that's because you didn't follow.
Yeah, but I was talking about Chevy Chase.
I was on Chevy Chase.
I know he's a dick.
Well, like for me.
I'm talking about you.
I'm like really kind of afraid to meet people that I admire because they're like dicks to me.
Then it kind of like ruins the whole dream.
You know what I mean?
I will say I admired him enough, but not enough to be heartbroken when he was, you know, he was a dick.
But he was never a dick in a way where I felt like it was personal.
Is there anybody that you ever met that you admired that was a dick to you that just totally fucked up the dream for you?
Well, I mean, Letterman, I guess.
At the time.
Right.
I mean, I really admired him.
Yeah, that was about it.
I haven't really met anyone else that.
That's the kind of feeling that I got from you.
You were telling me the elevator story.
You know, this guy, you're like, oh, man, I'm in an elevator with David Letterman.
Yeah, I mean.
He's being a fucking dick to me.
When that story was fresh, believe me, I would tell it like that guy's a dick.
Now I feel like, OK, he's not a dick.
Now I have perspective on it, you know.
Right.
Yeah.
Eric Idle story.
Tell the Eric.
I'm exhausted.
Eric Idle from Monty Python?
Yeah.
Tell it.
All right.
So I'm a huge Monty Python fan.
And my friend Jeff Davis is friends with Eric Idle.
And he would always talk about him.
And I'd be a little jealous, you know, that he's always hanging out with Eric Idle.
And one day he said, you want to hang out with Eric Idle and me?
And we'll come to Little Dom's, which is my favorite restaurant.
And, you know, we're hanging out.
And I.
I.
I'm all over Eric Idle.
I'm talking about Monty Python.
And.
You're trying to impress him and stuff.
I'm not trying to connect with them.
I'm not even trying to impress him.
I'm excited.
And I'm actually very curious about certain things.
And he loves it.
I mean, he's definitely taking it all in.
And he's like, oh, my God, that's so nice of you to remember that.
Right.
And that spurs me on even more and more.
Right, right.
And at one point we end up back at his place.
And there's cocaine.
I don't know if he did it.
I certainly did.
And a lot of us are doing it.
And I keep asking about Monty Python stuff.
And he's very receptive to it.
And at one point I ask him about the Ruddles.
Right, right.
And, you know, I ask him about Neil Innes, who played John Lennon in this Beatles parody called The Ruddles.
Right.
All you kids out there.
And he said, well, Neil Innes, I don't really talk to him.
I feel like he's kind of a dick.
And I said, wow, so he's the Lennon and you're the McCartney, kind of how it is in The Ruddles.
And he's like, fuck off.
I'm not McCartney.
Oh, man.
And he's, you know, he's insecure because McCartney is the sellout, which Eric Idle kind of is.
I mean, it was always in the back of my head when I was hanging out with him.
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Monty Python reference.
He says, quit living in the past.
Oh, man.
You just didn't know when to stop.
You just kept your mouth shut.
No.
No, no.
But I say to him, I should quit living in the past when you, everything you've done for the last 20 years has been living in the past with Monty Python and rehashing all their bullshit and just rehashing.
And I just start screaming at him.
Oh, shit.
And I'm like, don't fucking pull the carpet out from under me when you're standing on it, too.
What did he come back with?
He came back with, you're right.
He took me in the kitchen.
He's like.
But the best thing, didn't he give you like a DVD of his?
Then he gave me a DVD of the Holy Grail musical.
And I hope to God that was a joke.
Because it's the best joke ever.
And I actually left it there.
I didn't take it home.
We have a real.
I remember you showing up in the studio and telling me that story.
I'm like, oh, God.
It's the best.
Wow, man.
So did that make you cry?
Like on the inside?
What makes you cry?
Do you cry a lot?
I think.
Josh Groban?
No, the ideas of my daughter make me cry.
Like, where's she going to be?
Anytime someone's.
Also, when someone's nice to her, it makes me cry.
I'm like.
Oh, that's so sweet.
I'm getting choked up now.
But I, you know, when she was a baby and I'd watch Mr. Rogers neighborhood, I'd be like, he says he'd love my daughter.
You know, the day my daughter was born was the happiest, saddest day of my life.
I'm like, I love her more than anything in the world.
But oh, my God, she has her work cut out for her.
It's a fucking horrible world.
And she's a female.
Now I know why cultures rejoice for males.
I mean, it's so much easier.
Oh, it's so much easier because like when you have a daughter, you're like, eventually someone is going to stick their dick right into my daughter's asshole and jizz all over her.
But like when your son, like whatever, like you find out your son gets a blowjob, you're like, right on.
All right.
That's my boy.
I've never been more offended.
Someone, Dino, is eventually going to fuck your daughter.
I know.
But also.
I'm like, son, apparently.
Like, what a dark universe you live in.
Thought my boy would make it all right.
Really, I'm pissed off that I never got fucked in the ass.
Jesus.
Those Greek stereotypes aren't true.
They're still gone.
Oh, they're true.
I remember my dad would get mad when anyone would make a Greek buttfuck joke.
He's like.
It's the Romans that forced us.
It's like, wow.
He's bringing fucking ancient history in his defense.
God damn it.
That is some homophobia.
It's like you had to like dig deep into the books.
And now all you have to do is look into my office.
Why?
James.
Oh, James.
Yeah.
James.
You know, I heard he's a top, which is crazy.
He's a switch hitter.
Really?
Yeah.
Whatever.
Oh, that way.
Maybe we have some.
Some hope.
There's a.
There's a.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
I think I'm on my eighth vodka right now.
Kettle eight.
It's going to be kettled 20 by the time we're done.
Kettle eight.
It took me this long to get that.
I'm just.
That's how slow I am.
You could use that one if you want.
I had to look at the label to see what it said.
Oh, it says kettle one.
Yeah, it's one.
It's one.
All right.
So I, you know, heard Andy Dick playing Jesus in Frankenhole.
Is he going to be doing more stuff on that?
Or has he just got that?
He's playing Jesus season two also.
Oh, is he back again?
Yeah.
I actually wrote an episode for him where he played himself, where he hung out with death is a character.
He's a character that's in the show, like the Grim Reaper.
And he sees Andy Dick.
Look, really?
Joe's taking a phone call right now.
Yeah.
He sees Andy Dick hanging out with celebrities and them dying.
And.
Oh, wow.
What are you talking about?
Let's let's find out what what.
Because we are going to be really interesting.
You're on the air.
What's your name?
No, you had to put the weekend.
Jose, my card.
Can you keep it for a little while longer?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. on right now.
Yeah.
I parked on the street.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Well, you know what?
While Joe gets his parking situation on, why don't we...
I'm at 650.
He's at 650.
Do you want to just get some tunes?
I was in the middle of a story.
Yeah, well...
To the front desk.
All right, do we get to hear the Mormons sing High School Dog Kid now? 650 Spring, yes.
This is an undisclosed location.
I love Joe thinks this is cutting edge radio.
Hey, man, I'm going to take...
Hey, call me up.
Yeah, I'm going to talk to my parking guy.
Okay.
Can you please hold my car for another 10 minutes?
Okay, well, we're going to play some music while we get the valet up here.
Yeah, cool.
And we'll be back and we'll wrap it up with Dino Stamatopoulos on the More Music Radio Pod.
The guy's like, I'm close.
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We are working with what we got.
But luckily, there's only 24 viewers.
They're looking at their, what do they look at now?
Their laptop or their iPod?
Maybe their phone even.
Yeah, man.
You can pick this show up on your phone, man.
Dude, don't say that.
David Liebhard just looks up to the sky and just gets the show.
How do I get the show?
Beamed right to his brain at skidrow.la.
There's also an iPhone app.
But anyway, on Saturday, you can go.
If you're in downtown here, you go to a pool party at the Standard.
I don't like my body.
I have too many scars.
Bat wings, cat wings.
A lot of C-section scars.
You don't like your body?
Let's trade heads.
See how you like it.
See how you like this body.
I like your head.
I've been looking at your head all day.
It's fine.
But then that will bring us to Sunday.
And I don't know.
I got nothing for Sunday.
You guys, you can watch, like.
Uh, episodes of, uh, Moral Oral.
No, it's not.
No, it's not on.
They took it off.
No, you could totally fire up the internet and do that and watch for free.
No, they're not even on the internet.
That's not true.
I was watching.
Wait, no, wait.
You might be right about that.
Yeah, they're not on YouTube.
I was watching Frankenhold today, though.
Yeah.
But you can totally watch that on there.
You can get it on iTunes if you want.
There you go.
But I wouldn't pay.
They're, like, $1.99.
It's too much.
Oh, yeah, man.
Two bucks, man.
That's way too much money.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm not a kid nowadays.
Everybody, please watch the first season of Frankenhold or Dino's going to cry again.
Yeah.
It's true.