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I have a dream. And in this dream, I'm walking away from myself. Walking into a desert. Where the last of my former self would simply burn away. Leaving nothing behind but pure energy. And then I'm my breath. And my breath is the wind that blows breezes in and out of people's lives. Nothing you can see or hear. But only feel. And see the effect I have on everything. And when a group of us get together, they say the wind picks up. And we roam in and out of buildings. And people let us in through their windows and doors. And we play in their clothes and in their hair. And some like it. And others are bothered by it. But they don't know it's just us. They don't know they too could be the wind. Maybe even tonight. In their dreams. This is my dream. This is Jack Hunter Cohen. Welcome to the Healing Hour. We're hanging out. We're hanging out. We're hanging out. We're hanging out. All over town. You can hear that beat. It's quite a sound. He knocks you off your feet. We're hanging out. We do what we want. No one tells us what to do. We're hanging out. We're hanging out. Soon they grow up. They don't understand. After they're gone. We'll remember them. We know the rights. They think we've got a plan. No one tells us what to do. We're hanging out. We're hanging out. We're hanging out. We hang out. Wherever we go. Where we end up. We don't know. We go. We don't know. Tomorrow night is like the way we hang out. Yeah. And we're hanging out. We're hanging out. We're hanging out. We're hanging out. Wow. Wow. Wow. From coast to coast and all over the world. Everyone knows we all hit the streets. Every girl and every young man. No one tells us what to do. We're hanging out. We're hanging out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. Just hangin' out. This is Jack Hunter Cohen. This is the Healing Hour Radio Show. That was We're Hanging Out by The Tan. And I have a couple of guests today in the studio. Marvin Ezioni, who is the producer of that song. And he'll let us know a little bit of background about that song. And I've got with him, he's brought Zach Penaloni. A new artist, which he has just recorded. And he is from Peru. And he's going to play a live song for us tonight. This is going to be a really cool show. But I'm going to say hi to Marvin. Hey, Jack. How are you doing? I'm doing all right. Good to see you. Yeah, great to hear The Tan. Yeah, isn't it? So tell us, before we introduce Zach. Yeah. Tell us the story behind The Tan. Well, just briefly, the way that I met Zach was through... Through Brad Knack. And Brad was one of the members of The Tan. And it was officially the first band that I had produced. And We're Hanging Out was the single. And one of the singles off the record. And they were based in Santa Barbara. And this is in the early 80s, about 81, 82. And they went to Peru to play. So We're Hanging Out and the B-side Bad Party. Was actually a single in Peru. I think it was on Columbia. And actually had a hit in Peru. And I wanted to dedicate We're Hanging Out to Manuco, who is Zach's father. Okay. And Zach's father, Manuco, was a big fan of The Tan. And he loved We're Hanging Out. It's his favorite song. And recently, earlier this year, Brad and Manuco were talking on the phone. And Manuco said, you know, my son's into music. And Brad said, you know, you should have him call Marvin. So Zach and I talked on the phone. He's in Peru. Sent me some of his songs. And I just loved his voice and his vibe. And then we just spent maybe about four or five months on the phone, in email, going through songs. We put about two albums together. Narrated it down to an album. And then he said, okay, I'm going to come in town. Let's do an EP. And first time I met him, I didn't know what he looked like because we didn't Skype. And I picked him up from the airport. I just went up to this guy and said, you're Zach, right? He goes, yeah. And it's been uphill ever since. Very cool. Well, so Zach, tell me your side of it. How did you, what was your end of it? How did you find out about Marvin? Well, it was actually thanks to Brad and my father, like Marvin just told, because they like stayed in touch for all these years. And one day he, my father asked me, we should send some of your songs to Brad to see what he thinks. So we did. And Brad sent them to Marvin. And then like for the past five months or something like that, we've been in touch and going through songs. Okay. So we all owe a debt of gratitude to Brad. And Manuco. And Manuco. Yes. And Zach's dad for having him, basically for planting the seed. So to speak. Hence, we're hanging out. And what I'd like to do is there's one of the songs. We should start a bring back the tan campaign tonight. Okay. Okay, go ahead. I think we've begun. Okay. Thank you. There's, hey, Jeremy, song number four. It's called There Is Friction. This is a song that Marvin wrote some time ago. Why don't you give some background of this? There Is Friction was the last song that I showed Zach. And he showed me his songs. We co-wrote some songs. And just out of the blue one day, I thought, wow, it'd be an interesting full circle that on the tan record that I had produced, one of the songs was There Is Friction, a song that I wrote and that they performed. And so that was about over 30 years ago. And I sent it to Zach. And the next day, I get an email with his version of it. And it just sounded fantastic. He was in Peru at the time. Okay. Still there. Still there. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you come in town i have another song for you and um uh he sent it back and it was the most natural sounding thing i i didn't expect him this is friction yeah there is friction and then uh when i heard him do it i said well if you want to record it that'd be great it just fits you like a sonic glove okay so so that people know what we're talking about we're going to play there's friction now okay and uh thank you this was the first time we met when we didn't know what we did when we didn't care what we meant when i see you i see myself too whenever there is friction there is friction i wish you were someone other than you tonight you know my every move there is nothing i can hide when i see you i see myself too whatever we're alone there is friction between your heart and mine I wish I didn't live for your love anymore I wish I didn't hear your footsteps I never would have opened up the door When I see you I see myself too Whenever we're alone There is friction When I see you There is friction I see myself too Whenever we're alone There is friction There is friction There is friction There is friction That was Marvin Anzioni's There is Friction as recorded by Zach Panioloza and so I want to ask you Zach what appealed to you about this particular song what inspired you to want to record this one Well actually during the time Marvin and I were talking over the phone I sent to him many songs that he listened that he reviewed but one day he sent me There is Friction and he told me if you like it we can record a song and I just heard it and I thought I must do that I liked it very much and I thought I like it very much and I felt it mine you know I kind of made it It felt like it was yours Yeah You made it your own I tried How different is this than what he sent you The version that he sent you How different is it It's not Oh it's not Okay so basically you heard the song and you liked it and you just basically recorded it straight Yep I liked it very much I didn't want to like pass the opportunity of recording it Okay well I consider myself very fortunate in that I heard the five songs that you recorded just the last week or two and there's some beautiful stuff in there I don't know Spanish A lot of people in LA do There are a lot of Spanish speaking people in LA so they'll understand what this song is about but I wanted to ask you if you'd play just for kicks just do a live version of this song It's called It's Just an Illusion Yeah Is that right Yep Okay this is a Spanish language song and I just I don't understand what it's about but I think it's just beautiful so I'd love for you to play that Okay actually it's a quite a dark song but Do you want to talk about what it's about It's basically about a girl that murdered her boyfriend and is gonna spend the rest of her life in Yale but I don't say that during the song Fantastic I love it love that love that We'll go ahead and play that song I told you it was dark No no no we like dark that's good okay So you want me to play it Hit it Okay Yep! So this islikelike Aaron was on additional guitar and keyboards. And sometimes we had two nylons going, you know, so which was really a nice sound. And then Derek Anderson was on bass and he also plays with Susanna Hoffs. And then Jim was on drums and he does like Beatlemania, plays with all sorts of folks. And it was just, and then we recorded it at Sheldon Gomberg's studio out in Silver Lake called The Carriage House. And he's done a lot of big records there and we're good friends. And so it was nice. It just felt like it was a real natural circle of friends just working together. And we did a lot in a short amount of time. Yeah, the songs sound great. And we played the one of them. There's one other song I'd like to play and we're going to play some other stuff tonight as well. And we'll talk a little bit about your other endeavors. But there's a song I really like a lot. This is an original and it's in English. It's called Hypnosis. And we're going to go ahead and play that. Thank you. Thank you. Don't wanna remember being in love Being in love I said talk every day I'm empty and lonely Something is missing But I don't know what I feel like I am now a different man As if I've lost a part of who I am Don't wanna remember a single moment Don't wanna remember being in love Being in love I said talk won't you help me forget her smile Just for a while Just for a while Don't wanna remember a single moment Just for a while Just for a while Just for a while Just for a while Don't wanna remember being in love Being in love Being in love Being in love Being in love That was Hypnosis by Zach Penieloza. And is there a story behind that? Is there anything that inspired that song? Yeah. Like usual, it's a song that I wrote It was about a girl. And I just like the idea of going to a shrink and asking for help, you know? Like, if hypnosis is what it takes to forget the girl, then let's do it. Alright. Alright. Well, thank you so much, Zach. What are your hopes for this? What are you hoping to do with these tracks? Well, I just hope people would like them, would like the songs. And if I'm lucky, perhaps I can come back and record some more songs and perhaps play some gigs. That would be great. Cool. Well, thank you so much for being here and sharing your music with us. I'm gonna go ahead and play a song by Sid Straw from... It's a title track from a record, Pink Valour, from a couple of years back. And we'll come back and we're gonna talk a little bit to Marvin. A little bit about his stuff and some of his... a little bit of his background. And here we go. I went home again Just to prove that you could I went home again And it looked pretty good Flora and fauna And it looked pretty good How I have missed you guitar solo guitar solo Into the rain Which turned to snow Modern wagon train Westward ho Jump in the back Wear your blue dress And pack the pink billower We'll save our best For when we get there Mama never did say why She just said We have to try We have to try In California There's room to spare We'll have lemon trees In our backyard there But somehow she Ran out of luck And in the middle of it all We got stuck Stuck in the quicksand Please don't take away My pretty dreams They are all I have And I'm not gonna They are all I have And I'm not gonna Take away I tried to honor you Sometimes it's tough But anyone ever Loved you enough Into my In my Mind In my In my I am my father's girl. I look so much like him. Of all the dreams I ever had, my favorite one's the one where Mom and Dad and my big brother Pete, my sister Sally and I rattle down the highway in our blue Boneswine bus by the river. And we're all of us happy together if only for once. And I wish for you when I'm wishing on a star. And I always check the weather where you are. You never know. You think you do. Yeah, how life can fall and land on you. It's hard to ask for help, It's hard to ask for help, It's hard to ask for help, When you really need it. I've loved you all this time. I wonder If you can feel it. Where in the world are you now.itositositos We only see you in movies And I wish for you When I'm wishing on a star And I always check the weather Where you are I wish for you And oh I do When I'm wishing on a star And I always check the weather Always I always check the weather Where you are I wish for you I still do When I'm wishing on a star I always check the weather Always I always check the weather Where you are Always check the weather I always check the weather Where you are Always checked the weather Always checked the weather Always checked the weather Always checked the weather I never met him in person Somehow I feel like I know Why I wish I could go back in time Just to look in his eyes And say goodbye Grand Grand His song was bigger than the sky His voice could make a dead man cry Grand I wish I could go back in time Just to look in his eyes Just to look in his eyes And say goodbye Grand Grand Grand Grand That was Marvin Ezioni from his record Marvin Country. It was called Graham Revisited. And I gotta ask you, I mean, obviously it was inspired by Graham Parsons, but do you want to elaborate a bit on that? Sure. Well, the reason it's called Graham Revisited is I originally recorded the song for the album in Nashville when I started the record many, many moon ago. And it was just called Graham. Okay. And then one day I was at home and I just had a little cassette machine, my Casio, and I was just reworking the song. Sometimes I'll rewrite songs. And in the background, you can hear a little boy going, Daddy. And so to me, that was like the inspiration to finish this cassette recording of it just for that one moment. And so I took it to David Vaught, the engineer, and told him what I was up to. And he said, it's going to be pretty noisy. I said, perfect. And let's make it as noisy as possible. So the idea that it's actually getting played on a radio station is fantastic. And on the actual, that recording, unlike the original one that we did, on that recording, there's a sample of Graham Parsons. And that recording came from, I think it's from 1972 at the Palomino. I think it was Linda Ronstadt playing. He's in the back bar area. And someone had recorded him. And he was just sitting there talking. And I just sampled it. Most of it was inaudible, but the line could have been Dolly. It kind of popped out on the tape. So we sampled that. And at the very end, it seems like he's talking about Emmylou Harris when he says, you know, she'll knock anybody's knickers off or something like that. So that's where the song ends. And I got permission to use it from the person who recorded the tape and also Graham Parsons. My daughter, who lives in Austin. And I had played a Graham Parsons tribute, which is actually a DVD, a tribute to Graham Parsons. And we played the Universal Amphitheater, played the Santa Barbara Bowl. And I was the mandolin player in the group. But the headliners were Keith Richards, Nora Jones, and Lucinda played. Light White's another. Yeah, right. And so it was great. And I actually got Keith Richards to autograph my mandolin. So it was worth the trip. Yeah, that's where that happened. So just so people know what we're talking about, we're talking about a double CD, double LP you released a couple of years ago called Marvin Country. Right. That is, it's 22 songs. And they're all over the map. It's like your White album. Yeah. It's like there's just every different kind of vibe on the record. And it's, and, and I, you know, and I tell you this, you're my friend, so I'm biased, but it's a great record. Thank you. And I listen to it all the time. And I'm always hearing more and more things. So what we're going to do is we're going to, we're not so much tonight, but we're going to come back and we're going to do another one next week about the record and about your stuff. And, and cause I just want to, I really want to focus on that because you've got, you've had such a rich musical life. Oh, well, thank you. And, happy to come back. Yeah. And what we have, what I'd like to do, there's a song. Can you find it on the, on the, the playlist there? It's a song called Who Invented Yesterday. Can you find that? You see that there? It's further down. Got it? Would love to play that. And this is, this is more recent and this has not been, this has not even been released. Correct. But, but I want to, I do want to say Marvin Country. If you go to MarvinCountry.com, you can purchase, you can purchase the, the, the double CD or the double album for, you know, very, very reasonable price. And, and I want to encourage everyone to do that. But this cut is from your slow album. Right. So the, the, yeah, I, I've been working on a record for a long time and it called the slow album. And, earlier this year, I contacted the engineer, David Vaught. And, I, I've been working on the record for, for like on and off for like 15 years. And, I called him one day and I said, you know, I really want to finish up the slow album. And he started laughing. He said, okay, come on by. And I had a couple more songs. So he finished up the record. And as we were finishing it up, I was looking for something in a closet and I found a box. And inside the box was a CD of a song that I thought I had lost. I, I couldn't find a copy of the song on tape, CD, anywhere. And there was one copy. I, of this, of a song. And it was Who Invented Yesterday. And so I took it to David. I said, I think this would fit the record. And he goes, oh, absolutely. So what we did, we took the original two track because that's all we had and just added cello to it. So I think there's, Erica Duke is on cello. Okay. And, I think that's what we did to that song. But it was just a complete fluke. But what was interesting that in the box was a, a beautiful piece of stained glass. Um, with a figure on it. And it was from, I think the new, New York museum. And that was part of where this was. So I think I had meant to give this stained glass, uh, as a gift to someone, you know, but, uh, it never got that far. Okay. So this, so this is actually that original recording. Yeah. That is the original recording. I think we, from when? Uh, it was probably in the last, you know, 15 years or something like that. Yeah. Okay. So, um, and so it, it just, you know, it just fit the album thematically. Um, and I'd been looking for it for years and I just couldn't find, I couldn't find it at all. And I just saw it. And what was interesting is that, uh, the, the, the sadness is that David Vaught passed away and the Slow album was the very last album that we completed together. And, um, when he was, he, he, he passed away of cancer and, uh, I called him when he was in the hospital and he said, I, I ain't getting out of here. And he wanted to close the album with a particular song. And when we were working on the record, I, I said, well, let's come up with another sequence. And we did, we had, I had two copies. And one day he was in the hospital and I listened to the album with the sequence he wanted. And, uh, it was, he was right. And so I called him up and I said, David, I just want you to know, I just listened to the Slow album with the sequence you wanted it, the way you wanted to end the record. And I said, you were right. And I said, I just want you to know the album is going to say produced by David Vaught. And he was silent. And, you know, um, so this is, you just choked me up. Oh, this is for, this is for David. And, uh, you know, we go back 30 years, you know, and, uh, you know, I can still hear him in the track. So what was the last song that he wanted to, he wanted to close the album with a song called Stardust Time. And that's how the album closes. Okay. So what we're going to do, we're going to, we're going to go, we're going to play Who Invented Yesterday and, uh, and then we'll talk a little bit more. Sure. Thanks for listening. Here is my song. Or is it your song? It doesn't matter now cause we don't belong. Honey, hold me. Honey, don't let go. Oh no. Now it's coffee for one. God, and the sun is mighty strong today. Who invented yesterday? Who invented yesterday? She's in my blood. She's in my veins. Who invented yesterday? yesterday? Anyway, I wish we could wake up again. For the first time, let the light in. But reality is setting in. Oh baby, where ya been? been now it's coffee for one god damn the sun is mighty strong today who invented yesterday who invented yesterday she's in my blood she's in my veins who invented yesterday who invented yesterday that was marvin etzioni um produced by david vock uh who invented yesterday uh that's just beautiful thank you very much yeah um anything else about that you want to add well it's erica duke on shallow and uh we recorded it at uh uh uh with richard barron at sonora studios on los feliz boulevard uh in los feliz right near headwater village uh so yeah uh very grateful uh i i continued i continue to be surrounded by um really great uh gifted musical people like my friend zach yeah yeah and you and you inspire that you're uh and i know you as being real supportive and i know you as being real supportive umlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike yourlike your We are in fact one country as is a beautiful beautiful song from a record from about 20 years or so ago called blue sky mining Um, this is uh midnight oil with one country Who'd like to change the world Who wants to shoot the curl Who gets to work for bread Who wants to get ahead Who hands out equal rights Starts and ends that fine And not rent and raise Or end up asleep Who can make hard won gains Fall like a summer rain Who can make hard won gains Every man must be What his life can be So don't call me The churn I will walk away Who wants to please everyone Who says it all can be done Still sit up on that fence No one I've heard of yet Don't call me baby Don't talk in maybe Don't talk in maybe Don't talk in maybe Don't talk like has-beens Sing it like it should be Love's at the neck and down Lying on a neon shroud Running around here Just gotta touch someone Hey, I wanna be So don't call me For tune I will walk away Don't call me For tune I will walk away Don't Hey Don't call me For tune I will walk away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!likelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelikelike God, she won't God, she won't God, she won't God, she won't Oh, why don't you sit around God, she won't Turn it up, turn it down God, she won't Only a man can be God, she won't What his life can be God, she won't One vision One people One land mass We are just faithless God, she won't We have a lifeline God, she won't One ocean One policy Sea bed light One passion One movement One instant One difference One lifetime One understanding God, she won't Yeah, yeah, yeah One country Yeah, yeah, yeah One country Yeah, yeah, yeah It's one country Hey, hey, hey One country Yeah, one One One country One country One country One country One Understanding Thank god Transgression Redemption One island Blue outpaces One firmament One element One moment One fusion Yes, in one time Highland Venice, Los Angeles, right. Here. Yeah, that was one country from midnight oil. And I dedicate that to everyone who is being squeezed by the government shutdown. And I don't want to say a lot about it because it's really infuriating. But this is it's October 1st, 2013, Tuesday. And last night at midnight, basically the government shutdown held hostage by House Republicans. And so, you know. I'm moaning about it a bit. But we got Marvin Ezioni and Zach Penaloza. I want to thank you both sincerely for coming on the show. You made this real special tonight. And I'm going to have more people live in studio. Marvin, you're going to come in again. We're going to do a little show on you. Happy to do it. And what I'd like to do is. What did I want to do? I just want to acknowledge that, you know. Marvin's been around for a long time and he's been a real supportive performer for a lot of people. I know I'm repeating myself here, but I wanted to just express my gratitude for him because he's a real humble guy. And he shows up for people. He really does. And it's a real pleasure to to feature some of his stuff on the program. Thank you. And I want to close fittingly with with a song that you mentioned earlier that David Vaught had had wanted as the final. Yes. On your slow album. Yes. And these and these cuts from the slow album, they are not available anywhere. No. Except here. That's correct. So enjoy. And this hasn't been. I mean, we have the album. It's done. We mastered with Bernie Grumman. And, you know, so as of right now, we'll, you know, we'll figure out what to do with it in 2014. But in the meantime, the album is done. I appreciate you playing it. And whoever is listening. Thank you for listening. Absolutely. And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to sign off. This is Jack Hunter Cohen. This is the Healing Hour Radio Show. Special guest tonight were Marvin and Zach Penulosa. Zach. Thank you very much for having me. Yeah. As a pleasure. Have a safe flight back. He's going back to Lima, Peru in the morning. That's right. Early in the morning. Yep. And we hope to see you back again here soon. Hopefully. And I'm going to turn it over to Marvin, who's going to introduce this final song. And then we're going to be out of here. This next song. This next song is a song I wrote a while back. And it's the closer to what I found a very emotional album that finally I had to finish. And it goes out to David Vaughn. If it wasn't for David, this album wouldn't have been completed. And I can say the same for Marvin Country as well. But this one takes on a different emotional. Landscape. And David really wanted to close the album with this next song called Start Us Time. And Jack is kind enough to want to close his show, The Healing Hour, with it. And thanks for listening. Thanks for being there. The government will reopen soon. And drive safe. Thanks.! Sleep tonight. Dream tonight. Till the morning light breaks through. It's alright. It's alright. 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