All right. Thank you, buddy. How you doing? Oh, rough. A lot of these white people are really, a lot of them are so mean. I know, right? Yeah. I might as well have been in the deep south. I saw people who I work with on the Tim and Eric show, this girl named Caroline, who was an office director. She played like I didn't even exist with her girlfriends. Wow. Yeah. That sucks, huh? You want to hear something? All these young white kids stood in line by the thousands to get autographs from me, signed Tim and Eric t-shirts. Now they see me out here by myself. They treat me like dirt under their feet. Do they know you from Tim and Eric? Oh, they do. Put on your seatbelt. They do, buddy. But I'm just letting you know, even with my fame, that I still face discrimination. They're phony. I was visiting this Hispanic church downtown L. A. And this white woman with her husband was so mean to the people in the Spanish church. Do you want to tell your story and I can record it? Oh, sure. All right. Hi, my name's David Leibahart. And it's really sad that racism is alive and well against Hispanics and African Americans. A lot of whites that confess to like all people equally are hypocrites. I'm an ex-Navy veteran. I sell my portraits at La Brea Tar Pits. They play like I don't even exist. My friend, Javier Rodriguez, who sells fruit in front of La Brea Tar Pits. They treat him very bad. They don't even say no thank you to him. They treat him like he could be the wall or light post. Me the same way. The same whites that I'm not going to give any names who I work with. Well, what names? Just say I have a couple. Like famous people. Well, I don't want to. I don't have money. I'm just going to say there's a lot of people that are white that confess to like all people equally. And they're racist against blacks and Latinos. And it's wrong. You know, and they you you all know who you are. When I was standing in line, you all stood in line to get autographs from me. When I did the Comic-Con at the Tim and Eric Awesome Show. Great job. When I toured with Tim and Eric and I've stood up and took your phone calls. And 90 percent of the people that call me that like me are white. But when they see me selling my portraits on the street or see me filling out an application for a regular job, they play like I don't even exist. I could be the wall. I could be the wall. And you all should should should be more legitimate. And what do you think it is? Why are they acting like that? They've been raised from their conservative Republican parents and their grandparents. They have no tolerance for minorities, you know, and it's you all need to be a law unto yourself and think for yourself and not be prejudiced against Hispanics and blacks. Because, you know, the Hispanics and the blacks have given so much to our car. The white community and and and you all should be more humble and be receptive. And you shouldn't put on this phony plastic that you like everybody. And then when you see a minority on the street, play like they don't exist. You know who you are. And and and you and you need to not follow your Republican conservative race racist parents. You need to be a law unto yourself and think for yourself and love all people equally. We'll do it live. Broadcasting from downtown Los Angeles. We'll do it live. Fuck it. It's the more music radio pod. Do it live. I can write it and we'll do it live. On Skid Row dot L. A. Fucking thing sucks. Yeah. Five, four, three. Hey, what's going on, everybody? It's the more music radio pod over here at Skid Row Studios in downtown Los Angeles. All right. Hello, Vincent. Hello, Dan. How are you today? I'm doing fine tonight. And we are also joined by Jimmy. What's going on, Jimmy? Hello. How are you? What's going on, Jeremy? We got Jeremy working the board. Hey, what's up? And we have a special guest in tonight. Surprise guest. Wait for it. Wait for it. Let's not tell him. Let's not say anything. It'll be a secret. It'll be a secret. Maybe you could guess the voice. All right. Any guessers? Boom. What do you think? The phones are blowing up right now. Give the number. See if anyone can guess. Well, why don't you call 1-800-893-9562 and talk to Brian Whitman. Hi, guys. Yeah. You may know him from Conway and Whitman on KLSX. Yeah. You may. He's from a couple years ago. Yep. And he's going to sit in and teach us how to do a radio show. Well, I don't know if I'm going to teach you how to do a radio show. I mean, you guys are off and running. You're doing your thing here at Skid Row, and it sounds good, and it looks good. Everybody looks good. I see the booze is going. You got a little weed going here. A little bit of God's gift. Little uppers, little downers, little poppers, little zippers. And I'm drinking ginger ale. Little peppers. But I'll be fine. But there's pizza coming, right? Right. We got some pizza coming. No, this works out fine. Nothing but the best over here at Skid Row Studio. Vince, I left it up to Patrick to... Oh, shit. And what will he... I met Patrick. Can he be... Can he get like a peanut butter and pumpkin pizza or something? Can that dude... Yeah, can he be trusted with that judgment call? It's early in the evening. He might be okay. Maybe meat lovers? Could be fun. Yeah. Vince, it's nice to meet you, dude. Good to meet you, man. And you're Dave, and you're Dan. Jimmy. That's right. And I'm Dan. No, you're Dan. Where's Dave? Oh, Dave's the... No, you're Dan. Dave's not here. He's not here. He's not here, man. Dan, you're the guy trying to win 10 grand from Jack in the Box. Yes. Right. Guy comes in in a Jack in the Box t-shirt. I had Jack... Hell yeah, man. I had Jack this morning, and he tells me they're giving away 10 grand. I didn't know they were giving away 10 grand. I'd still be there. I wouldn't be here. Just, you know, you just gotta stroke their ego, call them. I can do that. What are they giving you 10,000 for? You guys are great. You're doing a great job. Oh, you're wonderful. Jack in the Box. Love what you do. You just keep buying stuff. Oh, shit. And then fill out a survey, tell them, give them a big thumbs up. And the fattest fuck wins. Pretty much. I think I'm almost there. You might want to tell them about your doctor's bill, too. Yeah, man. Incidentally, I have a $10,000 doctor bill for the coronary I'm having. We're doing another show here at Skid Row Studios, and last week we had James Quall. James Quall I've never met. I know the name, but I've never met him personally. Vince, tell me. He's great, man. He does impressions. He's also a fellow impressionist. Oh, I love people who do impressions. Right, right. You do some impressions, too, right? I dabble in them. Yeah. I dabble in them. And he does really good ones. Well, he's a special guy, okay? He's on this show, Tim and Eric. It's kind of a strange show, kind of like short attention span, just like weirdo kind of stuff. Right. And this guy's like an eccentric kind of special person, and he came in. He's an older dude, right? Yeah, he's an older man. He's like 61 years old. Okay. Even though he's been seen on TV, he's working at Little Caesars holding that sign. You know what I mean? Pizza, pizza, man. Shaking that sign to get people to come inside and buy that pizza, pizza. Shag it. He needs more hours, so, you know. Hey, you know what? Hit up the Little Caesars on Vermont and 3rd. You know, I wanted to play a couple clips of actually giving him a ride home, but you know what? Right now, it sounds like we have a caller on the air. Caller, you are on the More Music Radio pod with Brian Whitman. Hello. It's Carrie from Phoenix, Arizona. Hello, Carrie from Phoenix, Arizona. This is Brian. How are you? Hello. Hello. I am fantastic. This is the first time I've ever got to speak to you, listen to you since you're on 97.1. Thank you so much. It's very kind of you. How are you tonight, Carrie? Yeah. I am fantastic. How are you guys? Yeah, well, good. I mean, you're in Phoenix. Way to find the station, by the way. Well, you're probably on Facebook, right? You're a Facebook friend, and we hooked it up. Yeah. Yeah, I'm the one that keeps saying, I need my Brian David Whitman, man. Yeah, man. Well, it's a little fix. It's a little fix. It's going to give you a little. You know, if you're a Whitmaniac, or somebody says Whitmaniac, Walt Whitman fans call themselves Whitmaniacs, so I can't use that. So you get a little fix here, Carrie. So you're just going to get a little. This will help you, right? This will help you through the next week or so, and then you'll have to like, maybe I should give you my home number. You can call me up, and I'll do like a show over the phone for you. Yeah. That would be awesome. Carrie, how old are you? How old are you, baby? I'm 32. Really? Baby. Yes. Uh-huh. Could be worse. What's your cum size? What? You sound like an attractive woman. And you're single? I am. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. She's calling us. Okay. All right. All right. And what's going on? Brian, are you single? Yes. Hey. You got one on the line right now, man. I'm going for it. Reel her in. Vince, I don't know if you see my rod out there in the lake, dude, but I'm. Well, you know, I have heard what a slamming Sammy Phillips has said, so. Sam Phillips gave me high reviews. You know, we had sex for, I was doing a podcast a few years ago. And we thought, it was my first podcast. And I said, it's like, maybe it was three years. It was 2009, early 2009. You know, I was the first KLSX personality to podcast. I want to say that. I don't get credit for that. But God damn it. Somebody needs to say it. So Sam came out and said, let's have sex tonight. And let's review each other. And the next day, well, Carrie, you remember. I mean, I got good reviews for testicular size, actual ball size. Ah. No, I did. I did. I got, and she said I was at paid attention. No, she said I did not. Nice, right? Is that what she said? Yes, she did. She was very impressed. Yes. And that. Oh, my God, you guys. Sure. And did that turn you on, dear? Holy shit. You know what else to say, Brian? Yes. My favorite impersonation that you do is Beaver. Beaver Cleaver. Oh, Beaver Cleaver. Well, you know, I do, you know, I make it all, you know, I make it very sexual, you know. Well, she was, well, she would be kind of neat to kind of pal around with Lumpy Rutherford. Maybe do some. Wheelbarrow and do some fucking and junk. I couldn't really do that bit on the radio, but podcasts, you can do that bit. Wow, you're good. Hey, bring back Tom, man. What's going on? Tom, where you been, man? Well, I am, I am at my ranch in Santa Barbara. Oh, that's your new voice that you have now. Yes, I have allergies. Oh, okay. And, but my contract will be up April 1 of 2012, so we'll see what happens there, dear. All right. Carrie, you're nice to call. You're just awesome all around. Thank you, sweetie. Thank you very much for calling. I was just about to ask Tom for taking me out with a bong. Yeah, have a good night. Here you go, Carrie. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. Tom, you think you might be able to take Carrie out with a bong hit? Uh, yes, I can do that. And if Carrie wants to be taken out, here you go, dear. All right. I love that. All right. All right, man. See you, man. See you, man. Hey. Damn, damn. Put it down, dude. That's enough, Dan. I mean, the sound effect. I mean, we got the sound. But Dan's really going for it. Jesus Christ, man. Jesus Christ, man. Mad about. Mad about. So, it's nice to be here, man. You're all big studs, man. Yeah, man. So, check out this guy, man. Like, I was telling you, this older dude. Yeah, James Qualls. He did the show, everything. And this lady wanted to go home. Like, right from the beginning, she's just like, oh, James, I want to go home. And she's a crazy lady. Are they married? They're married. Yeah, they're newly married. They just got married in June. And so, they're newlyweds. And they met at a liquor store. James doesn't drink. I wonder what they were buying. I think she was buying vodka. And I don't know what. James was probably buying chips or something. But, you know, people will hear that, Vince. They'll go, met at a liquor store. It's not going to work. I have had some of the most beautiful relationships in my life started at pharmacies. You know, I would right there, right there at CVS, man, waiting on that long line for my, you know, for my prescriptions, man. Yeah, what are you picking up from the pharmacy? Well, back in the day, you know, it was whatever was really, whatever wasn't bolted down. But, no, so they met at the liquor store. Are they heavy drinkers or? The one, the one, the lady is kind of a heavy drinker. And she got to drinking. And at the end of the show, she finally got to go home. But she was, she was just like totally out of it. And she didn't want to walk. She didn't want to go downstairs. And we have a couple clips that I caught on my phone. I gave him a ride home. And here's the first clip. Oh! Yes, start playing. Go! Come on, Susan. She's a little bit crazy. Go, Susan. Go ahead, I got you. Go! You all good? She didn't want to walk down the stairs. That's leaving this studio. Right. Yeah. There we go. She's very just like uncooperative. She might hear a repeat of that 90 minutes from now, man. Somebody help Whitman down the stairs. I hope to be able to get that rent paid so. Oh, and in the elevator, she had a cup. And she just threw it on the floor. She was just so pissed. She threw her trash on the floor. It's funny. Out on Malibu Lake. There it is. Okay. You're done with the cup. Okay. You're done with the cup. Okay. Okay. You're done with the cup there. Okay. Yeah, he's funny. He has the best voice. What you do is you basically, you drive your guests home and tape them. Yeah. That's cool, dude. No, that's cool, dude. Of course, I get their permission first. Yeah, absolutely. It's just you didn't hear it. No, of course. I cut that out of the clip. I think that's a cool angle, dude. Yeah, man. So we finally get out the door. And I tell her we got to take a little bit of a walk, but she does not want to walk. Play the second clip. All right. So now we got to walk a little bit. I can't walk. Sorry. I can't. No, I'm not walking. I'm sorry. No. No. No. No. No. No. If you want to wait here, I can bring the car around. How's that? Oh, that'd be all right. I have to actually walk to the car and get it. Okay? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And then I handed the phone off to Jimmy who was watching. No. No. I was just getting the car around. Can you watch them real quick? I want to go grab the car. He can't get anywhere. Yeah. He's going to come around with the car. Go get the car. All right. Come on. Go grab the car. Now, Vince, when people hear that, and just so people know for benefit of the audience, that's what? That's vodka? I mean, what did that to her? That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. That's vodka. He's tired. I think she's a bit tired. She sounds tired. Oh yeah. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Okay, Susan. All right. Wheel bitch. We'll be all right. Now where are we? We'll be all right. Please don't worry. Please don't worry. Oh, hell no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. How are we going to get home? We've got to get that car here. He's bringing the car around, Susan. She kept asking, how are we going to get home? That's a fair question. I mean, it sounds like a woman who needs help getting home. She had 10 favorite questions. Oh, there he is. That's him. Okay. All right. This will be free? Yes, it's free. No charge. The car's that way, though. You need to go over there. Oh, wait. Should I do this? Oh, it feels early. No. It feels early. He's such a nice guy. He's a nice guy. Question. They took Susan home, or they took her to the home? You know what? It was actually a home that they've somehow managed to have together. It's weird. They built a happy life, those two? I always wonder how they're able to... They sound great to me. They sound in love. I mean, really. Yeah, you know what? And yeah, he is really in love with his wife, too. He calls her beautiful and all this stuff. Even when she's in that state? Right. He loves it. Yeah, because, you know, it's funny. Most dudes, like, we've all had girlfriends or wives who get, like, really plastered. And, you know, the beauty... I'm thinking of one girlfriend in particular. I won't name her. Okay. But, like, after... You know, she was charming after one drink. After two drinks, charming. You know, three drinks, kind of sexual, you know, and all of that. But after five drinks, six drinks, the beauty evaporates. You know, the beauty slowly leaves the equation. You know, you see the beauty slowly slip away. Right. And I just get really red hot with anger. And you're nicked. And your neck tightens up. And it just gets, like, annoying. Yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. What a bitch. What a bitch. So, I... Okay. So, now I think... Is this a clip where I'm smoking in the car? This is James choking. Okay. So, now you're driving them home? So, now I'm driving them home, okay? Are you driving me home? Yes, I am. Oh, all right. One of us is driving you home. We'll get you home, Brian. All right. Don't worry. We'll get you home. Roll tape. Roll tape in the car. Hopefully, you want to walk down the stairs. No, because... In the car, driving home, I'll tell, like, Rick D's stories of the Greg thing. Next week, you can play Whitman in the car telling Rick D's stories on the way home. So, we're in the car. Okay. And so, I'm smoking. All we have to do is get up to... Get up north to streets like... He's a driver. Like, first street to Temple Street. Yeah. What I'm thinking of doing is going over to 2nd Street. Okay. Yeah? You like that one? Okay. Here he comes. This is great. Okay. All right. It's out. Okay. Sorry. I got a bad smoking habit. Oh, sorry. Oh, I don't smoke at all. Yeah, I don't smoke. No, I can't. Well, I can't smoke because then there wouldn't be enough left in my vocal cords for imitating voices. Which is true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's true. Do you smoke? I don't smoke. No, I don't. I smoked. I tell people I smoked, like, three packs a day for a week in the third grade. And that's true. Wow. Back on Staten Island. Growing up, somebody, we were smoking Parliaments. Really? Yeah. I was like, what was it? Third grade. I was eight. Third grade's a little stressful. Third grade's a bitch. I mean, really. Mrs. Green. Mrs. Green at Eltingville Lutheran School. Nice lady, but she ran a tight ship. You know? Every night, reading and math homework. You got to knock out a page from that math workbook and do that reading assignment. And sometimes just need to cut away and get a smoke. Yeah. So we'd go into the woods. My brother and all our friends were out there. You know, we'd get nude. And we would. We would get nude. We'd go into, we would go. It's getting kind of weird. My friend Joey Potenza down the street, he had a tree house. And we'd all get nude in there. It was the first time I ever saw a girl naked. I was like in the third grade. And I won't say her name, but she had Smurfette panties. The Smurfs. Smurfette, man. Right. Oh, buh-boom. And we were smoking. And we would smoke every day. We would, you know, share Parliaments. And then one day, like this lady from the neighborhood, she was like walking, you know, nearby the woods. And she saw us. And we thought we were hidden. And she came over, you know, real New York style. And she's like, what are you doing over there? What the fuck? What the fuck are you doing over there? She takes the cigarettes out of our hand. She screams at us, you know. Wait, so you guys weren't naked when she came over to take your cigarettes? We mostly got nude. Because I was thinking that would have been weird. No, no. It was not weird, man. It was not weird to be smoking Parliaments nude in the third grade. What I found was we were mostly nude in the fort. Like we're in the tree house. We'd get nude. Okay. Yeah. It was really actually kind of disgusting what happened in there for eight years old. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. But the smoke. What happened in the tree house stays in the tree house. Do you need mud on your little turtle? No, no, no, no, no. You couldn't. I found, you know, this. What has happened to my career? You can't do that at eight. You couldn't. You can't. I mean, I didn't. We didn't do that. You know, I waited. I waited to an appropriate time to do that. I was 11. Okay. So we. No, we smoked. I haven't smoked since. And I find it probably helps the vocal cords. But some great guys like, you know, great radio guys with like great radio voices. They're hardcore smokers, dude. Right. If you're an impressionist. It's probably better not to smoke. But if you're an announcer. Go for it. It's kind of okay. Like remember. Might as well. You guys probably don't remember like Robert W. Morgan, who was on in L. A. for years. Big smoker. I mean. Yeah. Like a chinning. You would say Good Morgan. Yeah. Good Morgan. Right. Yeah, man. That's right. But like Rick Dees doesn't smoke. Oh, no. I don't smoke cigarettes in no way. I don't do that. And here she is, Kelly Clarkson right now. Oh, shit. That sounds fucking great, man. Oh, man. Where's Willard Wiseman at? I'm right there, buddy. I'm right there. I'm right. I'm Willard Wiseman. I'll be right there. Oh, Willard. Get out of here. I'm right there, buddy. I used to like how they'd always fight and he'd kick them out of the studio. That's exactly right. That's right. And the fight. Come on. Yeah. Come on. All right, Kevin. Whatever. He's great. 8.09 right now at Kiss FM. Fuck, man. That sounds fucking great, dude. That's some good shit. You ever go play like pickup basketball? And then there's. It's like, dude, just like hardcore dunking everywhere. Like, man, I probably shouldn't be on this court right now. Does it look like I play basketball, man? Honestly, come on. On the radio. Yes. It does look like you play basketball. Dan, seriously. I almost played pickup in Encino. There's a park right there by Balboa by the Johnny Rockets. They sell hot dogs out that cart right on Ventura Boulevard. And there's always dudes. I mean, and they're they're like slamming and jamming. Right. And I like a lot of black dudes. And they're like, really, you know, you know, you know, your blacks can play basketball. Here's what I'm saying. There's an NBA strike. They could be out there. And there's like white dudes there, too. But these guys really, you know, for me, I need like kind of like an entry level, you know, you know, I'd like to play maybe like, you know, around the world. Just like shoot, you know, but these guys are really, you know, so I sometimes just last week I almost went in there. I said, guys, can I get in on this? But I thought, no, these guys will eviscerate you. Ask him if you can play horse with him. Really? Try it. At Will Rogers Park, I used to ask guys that in Beverly Hills. I could play horse with him. It had a whole different meaning. You'd be like. If I beat you a horse, you'll let me play, right? Come on. Well, you mentioned black people, man. And the lady, Susan, we asked her about black people. And this is what she said. Go for it, Jeremy. David Lieberhardt. I was distracted. He was distracted by a beautiful woman. Gloria Gaynor White? My best friend. Is she white or is she? No, no. No, she's black. African American. That's right. Are you disappointed? I'm not prejudiced. Do you like black people? Well, not necessarily. That's a good way to start any response. That ain't a rush. That's okay. It's raw sand. It seems like you're the more tolerant one, though, right, James? Oh, well, no. And he is. He's the more tolerant one. He doesn't have any of that. He sounds like a real progressive. Yeah, he is. No. No. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Me too. And what do you think Susan thinks about Mexicans? Oh. Let's check it out. I never, ever, ever want to go to Mexico. Why not? It's so beautiful. She said she visited Tijuana. She's not like Mexicans either? Can we get away from that subject? Well, some guys out in Tijuana were not very kind to her. You know, I'm of Mexican descent. She was raped. I can speak as much Mexican as you want to. Speak Mexican. All right, okay. Did you have a bad experience in Mexico, Susan? Yes, they stole my passport. They stole everything from me. In Tijuana. Yeah, unkind people. Well, that can't be every Mexican, right? Well, I am not Mexican. I have no Mexican blood in me. Are you grateful for that? I don't know. I hope so. Well, whatever. Well, whatever. Well, whatever. That's just my wife. They stole everything from her. Yeah. Including her sanity. Everything. Everything. I think they took her teeth, too. She got some missing chiclets? Yeah. Yeah. She has a couple gaps. But you can buy chiclets there on the street. The kids sell them. Exactly. Five cents. She just shoved one in. That's right. So we finally got to drop them off. And, you know, I like James Qua a lot, and I try to sing one of his songs, his style, and we finally say goodbye to these guys. Please. We're gonna go to Beverly, and we're gonna drop off James Qua and Susan. Okay. And it's gonna be a night of passionate, hot, sexual encounters. Little pitch, you dog. Where are we at? All right. All right. So... Gotta keep his eyes on the road, you know? Yeah. Yeah, the pizza restaurant people love. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. You bid him farewell. Very sweet. Went to sleep. I had such a nice sleep, too. Nice to meet you, Susan. It was a great night. Yeah. I don't know you anymore. No. No, no, no. Thank you, sir. Thank you. She thinks you're a taxi cab or what the fuck? She kept thinking I was a taxi. She kept asking me, and I clipped out six clips of her asking the same question. Do I have to pay for this? You know what it sounded like, the audio? It sounds like the geriatric version of the bang bus. It sounds like after that, it's really going to get rolling. Susan's going to take the artificial limbs off and really start going for it. It's not like the cash cab. You know the cash cab show? Oh, man. I love it. I was watching that show. I'm like, oh. I was getting most of the questions right, too. You should be in the cab, dude. Holy shit. You should not be watching. You should be in the cab. I never catch a fucking cab. I know. I know. But that's the thing. It's like winning the jack-in-the-box 10 grand. You got to be there all day. To get in the cash cab, you got to just be hailing cabs all day. At some point, it's not cost efficient. Well, hey, man. Let's get rolling. We're going to play a couple songs, and we're going to come back and talk more with Brian Whitman on the More Music Radio Pod. Hold up. Wait a minute. How? You got the right bit. Hold up. How the fuck up? How? You got the right bit. The More Music Radio Pod. Broadcasting internationally from downtown Los Angeles. On skid row. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. LLL. Time went out a while ago And now we'll have to wait to die We might have been too late for them Cold start Cold start No need to worry We'll carry on We're gonna make it out of this We will make it out of this We'll make it out of this We're gonna make it out of this Somehow The rescue party's gonna come And all our troubles will be done Lost out in the woods And we're running out of light too This is what we'll have to do Right? Found us Found us Now we're lost in the sea and our ship has started sinking How much of that poison have we all been drinking? How fast How strong No need to worry We'll carry on It's not too late for me It's not too late for you We're coming back from nowhere And I think we're staying here No need to worry No need to worry right now We're coming back from nowhere And I think we're staying here We might be staying here And if they never come I guess we'll have to Save ourselves We keep Keep Keep on Keeping on We keep on waiting for We keep on waiting for someone else And if that rescue party never comes I just will have to save myself Everything went fast enough We sit here feeling blue They never came to me and they never came to you What are we supposed to do? How are we to make it through? We can't be lost, this can't be true There must be something we can do Even if we have to wait There'll be a time to celebrate And if that rescue party never comes I just will have to save myself I just will have to wait I just will have to wait I just will have to wait I just will have to wait I just will have to wait I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know Hey, what's up, guys? It's awesome to be here, man. I'm totally stoked. Yeah, no, you guys are awesome. I have stories of Dr. Drew doing blow off the tip of my penis, man. He said to me, Jim, I love cocaine, man. And I don't know anything about that. I know Dr. Drew, nice guy. I don't know anything about what happened with him and poor man, but I do know the poor man does not like Dr. Drew. Yeah, you know what? What happened was... What happened was, I guess, poor man got in trouble. He was telling us a couple weeks ago when we had him on the phone that he got a prank played on him. I guess the Kevin and Bean people had one of their dudes go into his house and, like, wake him up. It was pretty funny. Yeah, Kevin and Bean do that kind of thing. I was working with Rick Dees and Kevin and Bean. You know, Rick did not come to work at 6 o'clock. You know, he didn't. That's the truth. Most people know that. What was he doing? He had everything pre-recorded? Oh, well, you know, thank you for asking, Vince. I had a lot of work to do. A lot of things I'm doing. Hey, Rick. Hey, what's going on? Oh, no, you're wonderful. Hey, thanks. I appreciate it, man. I was listening to you when I was a little child. That is great. Thank you. But I'd get there at about 6.30. So Kevin and Bean sent a guy over to Rick's house to sit and wait to see what time Rick left for work, right? And Rick, because he's, like, blessed by God, he's, like, lucky in ways that you and I could never possibly be lucky. The one day of 20 years that he actually did leave his house at 10 to 6 was the day Kevin and Bean sent a guy over there to try to see him leaving at 6.30. And Rick came in, and he said, Brian, I was just stalked. Can you believe that? There was a guy outside my house, and he was following me. And I've been, you know, I thought my wife... This is what he said. He went on with Pat Harvey and Kevin and Bean. They put him on KCAL. I just thought that, you know, I was fearful for my family. I thought they were, you know, they were gonna rape my family. That's what he said. And Kevin and Bean are sitting there going, Rick, what are you talking about? You know, it's just a radio bit. Oh, okay, but, you know, whatever. But good God almighty. Rick kind of sounds kind of like a douche. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want to give that impression at all. He's a great guy. He's giving me more... They're coming to rape my family. Well, that's what he thought. They were sitting outside. You know, imagine you come out at 6 o'clock. It's dark, right? There's a dude in the car on the phone talking to Kevin and Bean, but you don't know who he is. And he's just kind of watching you, and it's like a private street. There's nobody on the street. I mean, I could say I could... And you're a full-grown man, and you know about morning... Like, that could be happening right now. Oh, no, you're right about that. I mean, please don't take that morning wood into my home. Rick sounds so straight. I wonder, like, if he ever cusses or curses. Is he that kind of personality? He doesn't... Like, he won't say, God damn it. He'll say, God dang it, because he is a pretty religious guy. But he'll... I can tell you a funny story. This was... I don't think I've ever told this story, this Rick D story. It was at... It was, like, 1990. I remember it was 1991. Howard Stern had just started it in Los Angeles on KLSX. Right. And Rick was on Kiss FM, obviously, for years and was number one, and Howard was coming in saying terrible things about Rick. Right. And Rick was really concerned, and Rick was saying to me all, you know, hey, Brian, I know you're from New York, and you probably like Howard Stern. I said, well, I do, actually. Well, you know, he is evil. You know, he's evil. I mean, somebody's kind of evil about what he does. So that was Rick's vibe. So we go to lunch, and it's Paul Joseph, Rick's producer forever, my best friend. Rick and myself. We're sitting at the Smokehouse in Burbank, if you know where that is, and it's lunchtime, and the waiter comes out, and he's, you know, hands out the menus. Oh, and of course everybody reckoned, oh, Rick D's. Hey, Rick, how are you? Oh, doing great. Thank you so much. And the waiter says, I love to listen to you. My girlfriend loves to listen to Howard Stern. And I know that makes Rick crazy, but Rick puts a face like, oh, no, Howard's wonderful. Thank you so much. And then the guy... I fucking hate that. Well, you ask if he ever curses. The waiter comes back. Now he's bringing the salads. Rick, I love you. Howard Stern, my girlfriend was, oh, no, Howard is wonderful, really. The guy leaves, and Rick says to Paul and I privately, you know, why is he doing that? Why is he bringing up Howard Stern? You know, good God almighty. You know, he thinks I want to talk about Howard Stern. Waiter comes back the third time, and you play the part of the waiter, Vince. All right. And you just say this, Rick, I just called my girlfriend. This morning she was listening to Howard Stern, and Rick does this to the waiter. He asked if he ever cursed. This is what happened. Oh, hey, Rick, thank you. Hey, Rick, I called my girlfriend, and she was listening to the Howard Stern. She called him. Yeah, tell her to get fucked. He said that. And I went, you know, you talk about like the spit take, right? He was sitting there, and he said, my girlfriend, tell her to get fucked. He was furious. Girl, fuck yourself. He was so angry. But he was being nice, you know. But the guy was an idiot. I mean, to keep coming back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you're serving Jay Leno, you're going to bring up David Letterman when you come to the table three times? No. I didn't blame Rick, and it was really very funny when he. It's a classic. So you worked with Rick Dees. Yeah. I used to do the voices on his show and the characters on his show from 1991 until he left. I was there on his last day, and then I worked with Ryan Seacrest for a year and a half after that. And then I went to 97.1. Did he get fired or something? What was happening with him? Rick didn't get fired. I mean, Rick doesn't get. I don't think you fire Rick Deeser. Maybe they did fire him. Well, they took him off the air, and they didn't re-sign his contract. So that's being fired. And they replaced him with Ryan Seacrest? Right. Rick was not. Rick was not. What a fucking slap in the fucking balls, huh? Well, he was not. You know, Rick didn't want to take a salary increase and all of that. And he would tell you now. He said on the news, I saw him, because he's back on the air now, on Hot 92.3 in L. A. But he would say, you know, I made a mistake. You know, I made a tactical mistake. I didn't negotiate and all of that. And they had Ryan ready to go. And Ryan's great. You know, Ryan's a really nice guy, too. People, you know, when I tell people I worked with Ryan Seacrest, they want me to say bad things about him. Right. But I don't have anything. I want you to say bad things about him, too, to tell you the truth. I know you do. And I understand that. And I want to give you a fix. But I can't, because the guy was really good to me. I'll tell you one interesting. Ryan Seacrest, he's like a normal guy. We were doing the show at Hollywood and Highland. Remember you had a daytime show called On Air with Ryan Seacrest? No, I don't. All right. It was a syndicated show. When he came to Kiss. It was doing the morning show. And right. We did the morning show at Hollywood and Highland. And just down the hall was the television studio. He was doing a million things. Right. Do the radio show, the American Top 40 show. Then go do the TV show. But he's like kind of a normal dude. But he had a really big dressing room. Obviously, he's a star. And that was his studio. So and I have a thing for public restrooms. I can't crap in a public restroom. So I go into the right across the hall from the studio. It's like 10.05. The show's ending. I go in there and I'm urinating. And I'm in there by myself. And Ryan walks in. And he goes, hey, Whitman. I said, hey, dude. And he goes into the stall. And I'm going, really? In my mind, I'm going, dude, you're like the next Merv Griffin. You're going to shit in this public restroom? You're not going to take the elevator to your dressing room and really go shit like a celebrity upstairs? You're going to. And pants come down. He's in there. And he's like talking to me. You know, so Whitman, you know, great bit this morning. Anything we can do tomorrow. I'm like, dude. I'm like, you're Ryan Seacrest. You don't shit and talk to me. You shouldn't talk to me anyway. But why would you be S-ing in a public restroom? You're Ryan Seacrest. Go like you use a gold-plated toilet in your swank dressing room. That's the kind of guy he is. Normal dude. Pretty normal dude. He's all, Brian, I'm about to masturbate to gay porn right now. But how's your day going? I'm fine. That guy, though, he really does get a lot of ass. But he does have it. But now he's engaged. He's getting married. I mean, he really, I mean, I've never seen anything like that. I mean, just. The quality of talent that Ryan Seacrest brought by occasionally. Really? Why do I hate him so much? Well, because, you know, because he makes a lot of money. And because he's very good looking. And there's a million reasons to hate him. But he has that kind of voice. You know what I mean? Yeah, you know, he might not be your cup of tea on the radio. But, you know, the thing is he can't. Look at what the guy. I mean, he's got Rick Deezer's job. He's got Casey Kasem's job. He's got Dick Clark's job. He's got, who else's job does he have? He's got someone else's job. He's got that. He's producing all the Kardashians. Yeah, he's producing the Kardashians. I mean, please. The guy's probably making probably. Congratulations on all your success. I hate you. And that's it. I think that's true. Very well said, Dan. It is Dan, right? I don't know if it's necessarily the success. I don't look at the guy and go like, oh, he's so successful. I hate him. You don't? No. I don't look at him and say I hate him. But I do look at him and go, wow, that's a lot of success. I don't want to have to change my flavor that much. That guy is hiding something. I look at that guy and I'm like, there is something. There is something underneath the little pretty boy smile and stuff. The guy has to have taken a dick in his butt once. But we haven't seen it. He paid me to keep a secret. We haven't seen it yet. I think people with Ryan Seacrest, they're waiting, right? I mean, he really manages his image very well. So, you know, unlike some of us. You know, I don't know. I say keep going. He was very nice to me. He really. The kind of guy would like call at night and just say, hey, good job this morning. Yeah. A lot of guys don't do that. I know what you mean. It's really hard to talk bad about somebody who's been really good to you. Yeah, he paid me well and was real nice to me. And I left, you know. And then I went to KLSX and he, you know. I saw him once. I saw him at a Christmas party after that. Well, you know, until he's nice to us, I just hate him. That's fair. Because he's so cute. Right. You can hate him until he's nice to you. I think that's acceptable. I think it's acceptable to hate him until he's really kind to you. You don't need any basis to hate anybody, by the way. I mean, we all hate people for just the wrong reasons anyway. And we love them for the wrong reasons. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly right. Right. Well, if he'd like an apology, he can call 800-893-9562. We're still taking calls, right? Yeah. You can call 1-800-893-9562 and talk to Brian Whitman. And if you want, you can probably talk to Tom Likas, too. Yes. And I want to thank Carrie who called because that was a nice call to kick the show off. So what happened to Tom Likas' voice, man? I don't know. You know, I'm not a doctor, so I don't know. But I can tell you that the time... During the time I was at KLSX, I'd listen to Tom. I'm a fan. I've been listening for years. Something got into that voice. And I don't know if it's... He says it's allergies. I think that's... I have allergies. And then I think at one point he was saying he had black mold in his house. So I don't know what's going on. Racist. Yes. Yes. But there's something... You do have a call. But there's something going on. I don't know what it is. People have speculated. He doesn't smoke. He doesn't smoke. I don't know what his diet's like, although I know he does enjoy wine and lamb. Because he did that tasting room show. I don't know if a combination of Merlot and lamb can F up your voice. But the doctor might want to run some tests on that. Well, you know what? We got a caller. Maybe it's Tom Likas on the line. Maybe he's been listening right now and monitoring. Is this Tom Likas on the line? Caller, you're on the air. No, it's Elliot. Oh, hey, even better. Elliot, man. I know this guy. You know this guy? Yeah. You do? Yeah. He wants a plug. I know he wants a plug. Uh-oh. What does that mean? Is that AT's friend? No, Elliot's a great guy. Elliot's a great guy. By the way, he's in Orange County. Is that true, Elliot? Elliot. Yep, that is true. Elliot? Elliot. Yeah, Elliot. Thanks for correcting. Everyone makes a mistake. I know. Aren't you too poor to afford a team? Oh, he's not poor. No, no, no. This guy bought Astro Pops. You remember Astro Pops as a kid? Did you ever have an Astro Pop, Vince? Yeah. Yeah. I bought Astro Pops, too, so. Oh, you mean like the whole thing? The Astro Pop. The candy. Did you? Okay. Never mind. He's cool. Did you ever have an Astro Pop? Ask him. He bought it. You bought it. You own it. He laughs. He should. Wow. Wow. And they're bringing them back. I know exactly what that laugh is. The guy owns Astro Pops. Why does he have to rub it in like that? Geez, man. No, I called him to just say hi, that I thought it was a great show so far. Very entertaining. Oh, cool, man. But seriously, let me ask you, because I can't ask you this off the air because it's too embarrassing, so I have to ask you. How much did you pay for Astro? I mean, when you buy Astro Pops, and you bring them back, and you own Astro Pops, you own the Astro Pop. I mean, is that, can we just play high-low? You don't want to admit? No, there was, no, because there's more to it than that, because it was the company I bought it from, I had negotiated for almost two and a half years, and plus, we had to do a lot of legal work with some of the trademarks that were running out. So we took that on, and knowing also that they sold off the equipment. They sold the equipment for scrap, which doesn't help. So it was a lot of work to get the thing back up. They just had a ton of money. It's all money talking. And they knew that. Right. Yeah. Oh, all right. So, and you can, if you want, you can go to the official Astro Pops fan page on Facebook. So I'm on there. I've liked it. I clicked like. But that's not the real way I'm calling. I'm calling because . You're calling to send us some Astro Pops. They'll send you Astro, you'll send these guys. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Vince, Vince, I mean, that's your compliment. Yeah, man. You know what I'm talking about, motherfucker? Thanks a lot, Elia. Appreciate it. Yeah, we gotta expand this, and hopefully we'll have five million listeners pretty soon. Yeah, man. Well, do we have to- So we're gonna lose like a million listeners? That's terrible. Yeah, man. Hey, we're looking for that sponsorship, man. See that, Elia? Send these guys some money for the Astro Pops. Let's talk some business. Yeah, he'll talk business with Vince later, Elia. Sure. Thank you, buddy. Thanks, man. Thanks for calling in, dude. He's a very nice guy. Yeah, he's a nice guy. He's a good guy. He's gotta have a ton of money. Yeah, man. Shit. I mean, if you own Astro Pops- Right, dude? Right? I mean, you own effing Astro Pops, right? I mean, you gotta- that's what I'm thinking. But it's hard to read. Like, sometimes you meet guys and you're thinking, oh, that guy's gotta have money, right? But you don't wanna ask. It's unfriendly. Yeah. It's not courteous. You know, I wanna meet the guy who made the ass gasket. You know those things that you put on the toilet seat before you take a shit? Well, you don't know because you don't like to take a shit in public places. Right, but is it the protective paper that you put- It's the protective paper, yeah. Okay. And I wanna complain, too. I hate when you have to take a shit and you're gonna shit your pants, but you have to take the paper out, unfold it, and then you have to tear the perforations. Mm-hmm. And by that time, pee is already dribbling down my leg and I have to shit, so I would like to speak to the ass gasket inventor. Well, we can get to that. I mean, I don't know if you're a fan of Astro Pops, but I'm not a fan of Astro Pops. I'm a fan of Astro Pops. I'm a fan of Astro Pops. I'm a fan of Astro Pops. I'm a fan of Astro Pops. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. I don't know. It's always when I was a kid in school, you know, I crapped my pants in the fourth grade. And, oh, we got a call. Oh, we got another caller. Hold that thought. Hold that thought. We got another caller on the More Music Radio. But a caller, you're on the air. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Tom? Yes. Hey, I heard you were in Korea recently. Is that true? Well, I do enjoy going to the Korean Peninsula. And I go there and I get a lot of Korean tail. I love that laugh. That laugh just feels it. I enjoy that. And I was down there. And I got some Korean tail. And I'm not ashamed. Who'd mess that, dear? I like it with the new fucked up voice that he has. By the way, thank you for that call. I actually, that is really what tipped it in. That's when he really started getting pissed off at me during the time at 97.1. When I started doing this. When I started doing the, you know, Because I think he felt understandably vulnerable. Well, because his voice was such a good radio voice. He's got one of the best voices in the history of radio, right? That's coming out. And that's embarrassing. But that's what I do for a living is do impressions. I don't mean to make fun of him or make him feel bad. But when I started doing that, I think that's when I started to get more pushback from management at the station. And Tom. So, did you get along with Tom Likas? Well, you know, if he came in. If he walked into Skid Row Studios right now. What would he say? Okay, I'll tell you exactly what would happen. I'll do me and him. Okay. Oh, hi, Tom. Hello, Brian. How are you? Good. How are you doing, buddy? Good, good. Thank you. And your first time over here at Skid Row Studios? And I'd say something like, oh, no, I've been here before. It's quite a setup, right? Yes, yes. Oh, wow. And that would be the extent of our interaction. We'd shake hands and all that. I'll tell you. When we did our last show, Tim Conway Jr.'s last show on KLSX invited me back on. Doug Steckler was there. We all did the last show. Tom came on. And I did Tom to Tom on the last show. And the studio was filled with people. Everybody who worked there was there. It was just a great big party. And there was hundreds of people there. And the show ended. This is the last time I've seen Tom in person. I've heard from him through, like, his attorney since then. But we walked out of the studio, and I said to him, I was leaving, going to my car, and he was leaving. And I said to him, and I thought this was kind of an appropriate thing to do. I said, thank you, Tom. I said, thank you for the great radio that we've been able to do here. And he said, thank you, Brian. And I shook his hand, and I said to him, and I want you to know, it's never, ever been personal. And he said, I know that. And then I said, no, really. Do you know that? Yes, I do. And then I said, it's all just for the radio. And then he said, Brian, that's what you and I do. And I said, thank you, and have a good night. And he left, and I left. And that's the last we've spoken to each other in person. But that was our relationship in person was like that. It was cordial and nice. But when he got in his car, he's like, that Brian. Right, when he got in the car, he called his attorney. Let's send a cease and desist to that fat bastard. And let's drop it on his front porch by 8 a.m. tomorrow, dear. I don't think he likes me, unfortunately. No, he doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. I don't want to be his friend. I really don't want to be his friend. But I don't, I guess, I mean, I want to say I don't dislike him. But it's hard for me not to. You know that he's being phony to you. Yeah. And the thing, you know, the legal letters and all of that. You got letters for what? Oh, I did this podcast called the Fake Likest Podcast and what I was doing. And he sent me letters threatening to sue me and all of that. And I would have appreciated. So he asked me if I like him or not. I don't like that he had his attorneys. I've known him since I'm 18 years old. He could have called me up. He could have just called me and said, Brian, I don't like that. So please stop doing that. And I got another call. But he didn't like it. Hello. Caller, you're on the air. The More Music Radio pod. I want to talk to Tom Rikus. Tom Rikus? This is like a KLSX. This is like right back. Hey, father. Hello, son. How are you? How are you, dear? I'm really good. I want you to blow me out. Well, how about with a bong whip? Because I don't know if we have an explosion. Yes. Yeah. I want you. Yes. Here you go, dear. It's going to be Flesh Friday. Flesh Friday? Flash Friday. Yeah. Show us your cans, dear. I want you to be a part of that with me. I like talking to you. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. you. Sure. Sure. Sure. Thanks for the energy, guy I love that Oh, I love that I like when he says dear Thank you, caller This is what I attract I mean, this is what I brought to you I hope it's alright It's great, man These are my people You know what, man? Let's play another couple songs And then I want to talk more with Brian Whitman When we come back on the More Music Radio Pod Yo, motherfucker You are listening to the More Music Radio Pod From Skid Row Studios In downtown Los Angeles, California At skidrow.la Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Skid Row Studios Lin, bitch. 1-800-893-9562. Ichi, Hapyaku, Yakuza, Kugoroni. Welcome back to the More Music Radio Pod. I just wanted to give a shout out to the bands that we heard today. We heard 400 Blows with The Rescue Party. We heard Horns with Evil Ending. We also heard Wiz Wars with Game Boy Rock. And just now you heard 8-Bit with Aw Hell Nah. Aw Hell Nah. Aw Hell Nah. That's a great tune. Vince, you picked the tunes, obviously, right? Yeah. Yeah. I like the music. Yeah. It sounds like we got a caller. Do we have a caller? Caller, you're on the air. Hello, Jack. Hello, son. How are you? That's all they want to do. They just want to play. They just want to get drunk and play on the phone. How are you, dear? Good, good. But now that you're on the show, I really got to know. So is like is really the reason for the demise of 97.1? No. No, no, no, no. No, I don't believe that. I think that the radio station went. Here's what the industry was told, right? That it was more cost effective. And I believe that. More cost effective to put on. Amp Radio, which I think is a great station. I love the music. I like Amp Radio. But you have to understand, music formats, they're cheaper. You know, at KLSX, I had already left the station. I was gone nine months before they went on. We're musicians. We know. It's cheap to not pay us. And DJs don't make as much as talk show hosts make. You know? And, you know, so I think that was the reason. I wish it was still on the air. In fact, I was listening today and listening to Amp Radio today. And I love, I mean, I love contemporary. What's your favorite song on Amp Radio? Like right now, Katy Perry. Katy Perry. Katy Perry. The Friday song, TGIF. Because she packs a lot of stimulation into Friday nights. I mean, she's throwing flamingos in the pool. She's having menage a trois. She's, you know, dancing on the tabletops. You know, that's a lot of activity for a Friday. I would like schedule the menage for like Wednesday. And maybe throw the flamingos in the pool on Friday. And, you know, just spread it around. But I like the station. But I missed it today. I missed KLSX today as a listener. I was in the car. I heard KLSX do the conversion. I almost cried. Say that again, caller. You know, I'm a fan of that format. And I followed 97.1. And I followed just about everybody on that station to their podcast. From the Heidi and Frank show to Corolla. And I'm just wondering now, what's it going to take for, you know, podcasting to take over Terrestrial Radio? I think it's a, my opinion is that it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a tough nut to crack. I mean, there's a very big difference, I think, in my experience. And I've obviously did, done radio for, you know, 25 years. I've been hosting a show for a number of years now. But, but there's a very big difference between broadcasting and being on the radio and podcasting. It's just different because the audiences are different. Podcasting is much more narrow focus. I mean, the people who are calling in tonight are people who, you know, I'm blessed to have support me and listen to me. You know, and they, they kind of know every, you know, little bit and all the different voices. And so, you know, I think that's a big difference. Broadcasting is just so much larger. You know, you just, you're playing to a much larger room. I think the impact that traditional broadcasting has on people is greater than, than obviously podcasting can do. However, there are exceptions. Adam Carolla, I mean, look at that. I mean, that's, you know, he's reaching an audience, certainly larger than a lot of radio hosts are reaching. So I think it's great. I think ultimately podcasting does to broadcast radio what cable television did to broadcast television. People still want to hear people that entertain them. People still want to hear great music. They want to hear great entertainers. They want to hear great content. How they get it is, is if it's over the phone, it's online, or if it's, or if it's from a broadcast tower, traditional broadcast frequency, that's starting to matter less, you know, and then for people like me too, you know, since we get on the topic, I've written about this online. You know, people who did what I did, who made like a lot of money hosting radio shows, you know, for ABC and CBS, they paid you a lot of money to go in and do a radio show. Now, because of podcasting, you know, there's, there's oftentimes, and I bitch about this sometimes, and I guess if I'm going to be honest, I should bitch about it now. There's an expectation sometimes on the part of the listener that people who were on the radio, but are no longer on the radio are going to do their shows for free podcasting. And I understand to the listener, it doesn't matter because you never paid for us to begin with. But, but there was someone paying us, you know, CBS was paying us or ABC was paying us. Someone was paying us to go in and do the show. I, maybe I'm lazy. Maybe I should roll up my sleeves and make a real go. It's not a good thing. But podcasting, it's just, you know, the technology has changed, obviously. The world has changed. Well, you know, like, I think people will pay for quality shit. Like, for instance, I used to listen to Howard Stern on KLSX, and that's how I got to hear some of the other shows because I'd leave the radio on, and then Tim Conway and Steckler at the time would come on. And, you know, it's not necessarily that I would really enjoy those, but that's how I really got to hear a lot of those. But as soon as, Howard left terrestrial radio, like myself and millions of other people followed him. Yes. And so I think he's proving that you can actually still get people to pay for something. Yes. You know, that's good. I think that's true. The problem becomes when you go to the second tier, third tier, fourth tier, fifth tier people, you know, down the notch from Howard Stern, you know, how much money do people really have to spend? You know, I mean, if they're going to spend, I don't know what's serious. This is now a year, but it's certainly worth it. Howard's show is- Like 13 bucks a month. Okay, so 13 bucks a month. And that's all I listen to. All right. So, but that's 13 bucks a month. Now, what if you wanted to listen to, say, Tom Likas? Let me just throw a name out there. He's under contract now. But if Tom was, I'd want to listen to Tom. Are you going to come up with another 13 for Tom if he's on another, you know, if he's doing a podcast and then do you want, and then if Adam Carolla's charging, you got another 10 bucks for him, you know, and then Brian Whitman's down here, do you have $2 for me for the year? You know what I mean? So people do run out of money at some point, as I've proven. Yeah, and that's true. Well, there's money out there, though. There's money out there because, I mean, look at Adam Carolla, and now Heidi and Frank just jumped on the bandwagon where they're selling out the, you know, the John Leavitt's Podcast Theater. Yeah, and they're terrific. I mean, Heidi and Frank is another example. The caller, what's your name, guy? Dude? Rich. I actually have a podcast on Skid Row Studios now. Oh, yeah, Matt Time. Okay. He talks about, like, MMA stuff. Oh, but- By the way, there's a gym in Encino. There's a gym. There's, like, a UFC next to the subway in Encino. There's, like, a UFC gym there. I went in the other day just to, like, pee because of the subway. There's not a bathroom. You didn't go there to shit because we all know that you don't like to shit I won't do that. But I go next door, and it's like, all these jacked-up dudes, they have to be, like, MMA guys. And I was, like, I was in there for two seconds. I ran out of there. I was scared to death. But those guys are awesome. Took your sandwich and tapped out. I did. I hope that people that, you know, are into podcasting can look, you know, to a future of doing it and to be profitable. Yep. And I think that's it. For the entertainers, for the people who, for the people who do the podcasting, for the people who perform the shows, we certainly hope that it's profitable. I mean, because, I mean, you can only, you know, I mean, you know, people will not, I don't know, I don't know if people will do something for free forever. You know what? I think it's a lot different now, too, because a lot more people are listening to alternative sources for their music. They'll just put their own music on their iPod. Right. And they'd rather just listen to that, you know? I was thinking about that. And they'll still pay money for music, you know? To have music on your iPod, you got to pay a buck a song and stuff. But you're right, Vince. Like, when you think about the impact, the decreased, lessened impact of broadcast radio, when I was growing up on Staten Island in New York, if I wanted to hear my favorite song, I had to sit there with my boombox and my cassette tape cued with the pause, and I had to listen to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I had to press the pause button, press, and wait for the radio station to play it so I could tape it. And then I'd get pissed if the DJ talked, you know, in the beginning of it and at the end of it. Because that's how you got your favorite song. Short of that, you went and you bought the, you know, the cassette, or later the CD. Yeah. You know, but people just don't have to do that anymore. God bless Kiss FM. God bless Amprado. God bless Arrow. God bless My FM and Coast and all of them. You know, if you really want to hear the song, you don't need to go there. That's why radio stations need to provide something greater and bigger, need to present, give to the listener an experience that they can't get from an MP3 player, that they can't get from an iPod. Ryan Seacrest, who we talked about earlier, he does a great show. He's got a ton of, millions of people listening. They love him. They enjoy the experience that he provides. You can't get that from iTunes. You can't just, you know, you know what I'm saying? But you know what? Maybe it is that the, just like the mass audience is just kind of like just the lowest common denominator type of people. And so like, for interesting things to kind of take off, it kind of needs a cult following, you know? Cause like, I mean, in my opinion, like I just come from a place where like, you know, I, I started, you know, really getting into music with punk rock music. And I've always been like, just like, you know, just more sticking on the underground, all this stuff in the mainstream, like all this, like Ryan Seacrest and American Idol is just kind of like shit. You know what I mean? Like in our opinion, but the thing is, is that there, I mean, there are like millions and millions of people who are fucking, selling out these fucking Katy Perry fucking concerts and fucking Lady Gaga and stuff. And I'm not saying that's necessarily good or bad music. I think it's shit. That's just my opinion though. But like, I think I lost my, my train of thought because I've been drinking and smoking. I think what you were trying to say is, Right. Help me out, For all the people at home, like listening and be like, holy shit, how is this free right now? You'd be like, you could, you could go to the skidrow.la website. It's almost like you get what you, And there's a donation. Yeah. Yeah. It's a free website. It's almost like you get what you pay for. It's almost like you get what you pay for. And just, because we are doing this for free right now. Just satisfied with just like, with, with like that, you know? But, uh, what I do like, um, about the alternative forms of entertainment, like podcasting and stuff is just like, there's such like, uh, uh, a big variety of stuff that, I mean, you can just personally, like if you're into MMA, you're going to be like, oh, I'm going to www.skidrow.la when Matt time is on. Yep. And listen to him, bro. Absolutely. That, you know, that's totally true. I mean, there are, there are, does, does radio, does terrestrial radio have a chance though? Oh, absolutely. Oh, of course. You know, terrestrial radio is not dead. Uh, not at all. Uh, local radio is not dead. I think in a time of, of podcasts and a time of national syndication, where so many shows on so many talk stations specifically are nationally syndicated shows, radio, local radio stations have a great opportunity to serve the local community. And to, I love Bill Handel. I love to listen to Bill Handel in the morning on KFI. He's my favorite talk show. Host. And he does a show for Los Angeles. It's not syndicated. It's not on in 200 cities. Yeah. Dan. Yeah. That's how I feel about like terrestrial radio. It's, it's like, it really, I think it feels like a sense of community kind of like, you know, people call in and you know, they're all from the same kind of area. And also podcasting does, uh, foster that, that community, that fellowship feeling because people listening to you, Vince, people listen to you guys. Uh, they know you guys, you know, they enjoy what you do. People who listen to, uh, Adam Carolla, which is an example we've heard. I mean, they're into that. They know everything about Adam, you know? So there, you know, people, uh, uh, Leo Laporte, the tech guy on KFI does podcasts, you know, on his network. Uh, they are totally obsessed with technology and everything. Leo Laporte. So there's that fellowship, you know, and I think that's a special thing. I, yeah, I like these alternative forms of entertainment because it kind of like exposes people to new things that, you know, can be better, you know? Absolutely. And I think it's just the, there's speaking of the lowest common denominator people, I think it's just that they haven't been exposed to things, you know? And that goes for people in general. Like there's a lot of really like milquetoast kind of people who are like that because, you know, they don't live in a big city and they're just not exposed to cool shit, you know? So, uh, hopefully, uh, some people listen to us on, uh, www.skidroad.la and get exposed to some cool shit. Yeah. And that's what we're trying to, we're trying to expose ourselves pretty much to everybody. I think you're doing a fine job. Right. I'll put my pants back on. Yeah. Hey, you got a caller. Caller. You're on the more music radio pod with Brian Whitman. Hey, what's up? Hi. Hey, It's Peter Genovese. Uh, Peter is a big stud, man. Yeah. Oh, yes, guy. Hi, Peter. Peter actually talked about podcast. Peter could do a podcast about movies. I mean, Leo Quinones is the film freak. Peter could give him a run for his money. This guy has seen every movie and really, oh yeah. What's the best one out right now? Oh, he'll have an answer. Oh, you know, it, it's tough. Cause there's a lot of, there's a lot of them running around. There's some, you know, I kind of like the rated R movies these days because they just kind of let loose. Man, they show titties and shit. And it's, it's kind of a nice change when you have to go to rated R movie and, and you know, you don't have to worry about censorship. They kind of do whatever they want and it makes it kind of fun, especially, you know, if you're of age. I didn't miss the boat. You posted something on my Facebook page a while back. I did not miss the boat. I don't think yet on the Halloween screening. Oh, yeah. I'm not sure when that was. I forgot. Okay. Yeah. The original Halloween, John Carpenter. Right. That's like my favorite. Yeah. I don't know if it's the best one. Well, you're into it and Peter's into it too. So I forget where they're screening that, but I have to look now at that post that you sent me because I would like to see that. I love, I went, um, I guess maybe five, six years ago in South Pasadena where they shot a lot of Halloween. They had a screening on Halloween night of the original Halloween. And it was all like people like Peter, guys like you, guys like me who are really into it, packing the theater on a rainy Halloween night. Kind of spooky in South Pasadena, watching the original on the big screen. John Carpenter showed up. It was awesome. Oh, wow. It was effing great. That's freaking awesome. It was great. So Halloween is your favorite John Carpenter movie? It's actually my favorite movie. If I had to pick a favorite, if it was like only, I think if I could watch one movie, if I just had to throw everyone away and only watch one movie for the rest of my life, it would be the original Halloween. You know, I really like They Live with Roddy Roddy Piper. You remember that one? He picked up the glasses. You know, I watched it. I watched that about a month ago. Oh man, it's so good. It wasn't as good. Like, it was a lot slower than I remember. Oh man, you just don't know good movies, man. It takes about 45 minutes to get into it before it like starts really moving. Yeah. And that fight scene comes for like 20 minutes. Roddy Piper is great. Professional wrestlers are the most underrated entertainers. Oh no, I agree, They're the greatest, man. I agree. Piper's Pit, when he hit Jimmy Snuka with the coconut, like in 1984. Yeah, you want a coconut, yeah, what? It was just great, right? I loved it, man. Oh man. The Junkyard Dog pantsing Jimmy Hart and branding him. Does anyone remember that? That's good shit. Yeah, I've been meaning to discuss this with Vince off the air, but, but, let's just do it here. But I've been meaning to bring up doing WWF wrestler speeches, like, Right. Right, great. Yeah, man, those guys get you pumped. Yeah, man. seriously, they bring it. Brutus the Barber Beefcake, he was doing chop off people's hair. The best. If you lost the match, he cut your hair. Jake the Snake Roberts, you take that snake out. And how about that crack habit that he got afterwards? Which one? Oh, Jake the Snake? Oh yeah, he really, yeah, right. He's dead now, right? Did he die? No, I think he's still alive. I think he's still alive. He's still alive? All right. I mean, I hope he's still alive. I watched that movie Beyond the Mat. Yeah, did you see that, dude? Yeah. That was a great movie. So fucking depressing. I think 10 years ago, I drove out. But you could tell he did kind of turn it up. Oh, no, absolutely. I drove out to Covina to see that because it was like, it was not showing in the Valley. I had to drive out to Covina to see it. Make it real. It was like, nerd. It was like 10 years. I think like the year 2000, Beyond the Mat. That is for any dude who ever liked wrestling as a kid or is into it now, you gotta see Beyond the Mat. Yeah. You gotta see it. It's so great. It's so depressing what happens to these guys. And the Macho Man, I mean. Oh, man, he fucking had a heart attack and crashed into a tree or something, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He was, uh, he was, he was really going for it. He's one of the first impressions I ever did. I started doing, like when I was a kid, I did my school teachers and I did wrestlers. You know, that was. I feel like it's too early, but I think he was trying to snap into a tree. Oh, yeah. Snap into. When he would do that, there's somebody edited together, like the Macho Man's best interviews. Too soon, man. A friend of mine. Too soon. Too soon to do the Macho Man. Get out of here. Here's, here's the greatest thing, the most unfortunate thing about the Macho Man's tragic demise. Oh, no. He died before being, rightfully, cast as the next voice of the Aflac Duck. Yeah. Because after Gilbert Gottfried shit that away, that was Randy Savage's. I. I mean, was that a natural? For Randy Savage to be the Aflac Duck? He could, you know. The Aflac. I don't know if they'd want it down. I don't know which way you'd want to do it, but. Right fork in the road. It's, it's Aflac, left fork in the road. It could have been, uh, you know, the Kool-Aid man. Either one. Hey, speaking of that, that Gilbert Gottfried thing, um, what is your sensibility when it comes to stuff like that? Like, when I said too soon, I mean, was it too soon for him to make that kind of joke? Because when he said that, I thought that was fucking hilarious. Well, you're talking about the Japan. His Twitter, yeah, his Twitter Japan thing. Yeah, the joke was something like, I, my girlfriend just broke up with me, but as they say in Japan, one will be floating by any minute, another will be, something like, I'm paraphrasing, but that was the, that's not funny. That was the context. That was the essence of the joke. And he tweeted, and of course it's very dangerous, because if you're drunk and tweeting, or on Facebook bombed, you know, it gets out there, it's over. Uh, my first reaction was Gilbert, you know, if comics understand anything, they understand timing, and that was terrible timing. It was, it was terrible timing to tell that joke so soon. However, on the flip side, um, you know, that is what he does. He does offend for a living. Exactly. Have you ever heard of him? I mean, Tracy Morgan, you look at Tracy Morgan, Tracy Morgan's up there apologizing to the gay, and lesbian community for doing a rant about homosexuality. He's a comic. At some point in this effing country, in this effing world, we begin to accept people for what they are. Comics make us laugh. Right. And that's what they try to do. And sometimes they offend us, and sometimes they're not funny, but they're doing what they do. If the president of the United States said, uh, you know, I, my wife just left me, but as they say in Japan, you know, one of me, all right, well then I got something. the governor says that, well then maybe, I can get, you know, a little angry about that. But when it's Gilbert Gottfried or Tracy Morgan, fuck, this is what they do for a living. It's like, you know, radio hosts who get in trouble for saying outrageous things. Well, that's what they do for a living. Now, you can go beyond the pale. You can, you can step over the line. Anyone, I think, in broadcasting, or most people in entertainment have done that at some point. But my God, we worry about things in this country that are so fucking stupid. What a luxury that we have time to worry about Gilbert Gottfried tweeting an insensitive joke. Exactly. I mean, you look the other day what happened in the Northeast with that fucking earthquake. I turned on CNN because I hear an earthquake. I'm like, all right, here we go. I'm hunkered down. I got the chips. I got the soda. I'm ready to go. You know, and the media, they've got the aerial shots and you know it's CNN. They're going, casualties, anyone, anyone, ah, fuck, not yet. Ah, fuck, shit, fuck, fuck. They're looking for casualties for a guy. There's got to be oldies out there, so, they wanted the second, the media is always looking for the next 9-11. They are. They got to fill time, but that story had nothing. There was an earthquake. It was a little rumble. Big fucking deal. No shit. Turn the camera off and let's talk about some serious shit. It's, you know, it didn't matter. It was a non-story and, you know, but the media is so thirsty for blood. We have a, the media is blood thirsty. Well, you would think if they're blood thirsty, then they, then they would have went after the story with that guy that fucking, what was it, a Norwegian guy or something that went and killed a bunch of kids? He shot up a bunch of kids? Yeah, but that story got some coverage. That story did get some coverage, but, you know. But that was at the same time that fucking Amy Winehouse finally, finally kicked the bucket. Right, and that, you know. But the Amy Winehouse story was like the biggest story. It was like, oh, everybody felt so sorry for this overprivileged fucking overindulging girl. Meanwhile, there's, there's real shit happening all around the world. There is. Speaking of Amy, Amy Winehouse, because I want to talk about the important stuff. All right. Her family, I saw that report yesterday, I guess, about toxicology. It's her family saying that there were no drugs in her system. I don't know that the, that the, that the coroner has said that yet. That's a distinction that I think needs to be made. I might be wrong, but the way I read the story was it was a statement from her family that said no illegal drugs in her system. I don't think it was, I don't think it was, you know, a health authority. I mean, but would you be surprised, though? You know, I think if anything, just don't say anything unless it's like she didn't have drugs and that, now that's news. Wow, she was totally sober and she died. Right. You assume Amy Winehouse OD'd. You assume that. And, you know, and we'll just, I'll, I'll work under that assumption until you tell me that she didn't. And the family's saying she didn't. Okay, well then how'd she die? Not that I have a right to know. She's, it's her daughter, but, you know, Christ. Yeah, but come on, what do I look like, an idiot? Don't answer that. I mean, if I, you know, I'm 39. I've had a history of, you know, a few problems. If I died tonight, I'm sure there are a lot of people who would say, oh, Whitman, you know, you know, Whitman went crazy with pills. That's what, you know, I would assume that people would say that about me. It's unfortunate. because you like to pop a lot of pills, or do you have a problem with that? Well, I had a problem with that. Yeah, absolutely. Oh yeah, that's why I lost my job and all of that. Oh wow. Oh yeah. So, what kind of pills were you into? Sleeping pills. Really? Yeah. Just couldn't get to sleep, huh? You ever think about weed? How about weed? You know, I hadn't thought about that. In retrospect, I wish someone had just, you know, bought a vaporizer over the house. That's what I would have said. I'd be like, hey man, you're popping these pills, you're gonna smoke this. Right, take it easy on yourself. Oh, relax. You know, have a brownie, Whitman, for Christ's sake. Have some real medicine. Have a brownie and keep your job. God made this for you. That's it. But that never really did anything for me. I mean, weed really never does anything for me either. But you really got into pills. Yeah, did you just like never wake up for work or something? Too many sleeping pills? No, I, I, I, I did a very bad thing and I, I went on the air, you know, really. I don't, you know, I look back and people say, well, Brian was on the air high and that's probably, well, that is true. But looking back, I don't know if I was withdrawing because I had blacked out a few days. So I don't know if I was having withdrawals or if I just had forgotten what I had done, but I was. All right, what did you do? No, I just went on the air and I was, you know, my partner, Tim Conway, was not there and I was on by myself and it was embarrassing. You know, I was not, I was not, I couldn't put sentences together kind of like now and I would long pauses as I was trying to search for the word and the audience knew there was something wrong and I went home after an hour. Jim Rome does that like every day. I don't even. Well, he, he, you know. But yeah, so then the next morning I was, you know, told, you know, I actually slept through my firing. I've told that story. I went to the hospital that night and I came home. I was really sick and I went to sleep, but before I went to sleep, I called our program director at the time. He said, can you do this? You know, what happened last night? And I lied to him and I, and I did and I said, oh, I had a reaction to medication, which is what most drug addicts say when they're. That's kind of the truth, right? Yeah, I had a reaction because I took a fistful of them. That's completely true. I had the, I had the reaction that I was seeking, but technically I had a reaction. Yes, I had a reaction. Didn't say good reaction. Didn't say bad reaction. I had a reaction to this weed that I was smoking. And he said, could you come in and do this? I said, yes. He said, no, Brian, he said, I've known you for 20. Can you really do this anymore in your life? I mean, you're pointing your, I said, yes, I can do it. And then I went to sleep and then I woke up and then I said to, while I was sleeping, you know, the S hit the fan. You know, my girlfriend called my agent. They called the radio station that Brian has a problem. You know, and I said to my girlfriend, I committed to my boss last time I spoke. I said, I'll be in there tonight. And about two 30 in the afternoon, I said to her, I said, you know, I don't think I can go in tonight. And she said, oh, I'm glad you brought that up because you don't ever have to worry again about. I said, oh really? While I was sleeping. She said, yeah, I think that's the way to do it. By the way, if you got to lose your job, it's a painful thing. Maybe wake up. You ain't got a job anymore. Go back to sleep. You need to wake up. Can you grab the phone? They want to fire you. Oh, you just want to sleep through it. Don't leave a message. They said you can keep your likest impression. They'll get somebody else. That's cool. Thank you. Wow, man. So you really had that much of a problem that you, that you lost your job over. I've had a lot of, I've packed a lot of life into 39 years. Wow. Is that your first problem or is it just like a continuing thing? That was my first problem. I mean, I was a really straight, like young kid. I never had a drink until I was like 22. In college, I never drank. And, um, I didn't, uh, you know, I didn't, uh, I, I didn't, I never did drugs. I didn't do anything until I was about 32 and I got a prescription for sleep and I found that it made me euphoric and then about three years later I remembered, um, it was a few years later after that that I, uh, started seeking, you know, I started seeking the medication for the, you know, because it made me happy. It made me forget my problems. So, so I did that. So if there was, through, through most of the time I was at 97, 7.1 and then it, it came to a head in 2008 and they told me not to come in anymore and they, and they were right. I mean, I, I wouldn't have had me either if I were them. So with sleeping pills, let's just say hypothetically that money doesn't mean anything. You can't trade anything for it, but, and someone says, okay, I have the last bottle of sleeping pills, but you got to suck my dick. Would you suck a dick for sleeping pills at that moment? Uh, there's probably a point I would. Wow, you had a problem. There's probably a point in my life where I would have, but, uh, but I, that I had, hadn't, had not, uh, never, never did that for that. So, so I can say I never did that for that. Vince, have you ever had an Ambien? No, I haven't. How's that feel? It's, it's really nice. Yeah, Jeremy's taken them. Yeah, yeah, you always tell me about that, man. Well, that's what I was taking. Well, see, like, I don't want to start popping pills because that's some really hard shit. It's engineered to be like, to get you. Yeah, but you know what? I have to stop you here because I often get pissed off in my experience over the last, uh, three years, specifically five years, really six years, really. Uh, but I have, you know, I've talked on the air about the problem, the challenges that I've had. And I meet a lot of guys like you, Vince, who smoke weed. A lot of guys like Jeremy. Oh, can I, sorry, I'm pointing fingers and giving secrets. All right. I meet a lot of people who smoke weed every day. They're high every day. And I got to say this because it's been pissing me off for years and I've never said it, but marijuana addicts have a holier than thou, self-righteous, self-righteous, sanctimonious fucking attitude toward drug addicts, pill poppers, and alcoholics. People who smoke weed every day and I could rattle off 30 names off the top of my head. They look down their nose at pill poppers. They call me and lecture me and I want to say, I understand I've lost almost everything. I understand I fucked up, but you're as much an addict as I am. Maybe it hasn't destroyed your life like it's destroyed my life and I'm rebuilding my life, but nonetheless, guys who smoke weed and it's particularly dudes who smoke weed every day think that they're not drug addicts. People who smoke weed every day think they're not addicts and they're ruthless to pill poppers. They're ruthless to alcoholics. Well, there's one thing I can say is I haven't lost my career for smoking too much weed. Yeah, I understand that, Vince, and that's what everybody says. You know, I didn't lose a job. I smoke weed, but I didn't lose my job. Okay, fine. Well, you know, because I trip out. My father was an alcoholic for all of his life until the final eight years of his life. God bless my father. God bless my father. May he rest in peace. My father was a cop for 21 years. He didn't lose his job. My father was a contractor for 30 years. He didn't lose his job. My father didn't lose a job, but if he was sitting here, he'd tell you he was a full-blown alcoholic. He was. So just because you haven't lost your job or just because your girlfriend hasn't left you or just because you haven't lost all of your money, and by the way, all of those three things happened to me, but it doesn't have to happen to you for you to be an addict, an alcoholic, whatever. Whatever. I don't want to. I'm out of here, man. I'm functioning. God damn it. Weed smoker, alcoholic, whatever. I just got pissed off. I start sweating now. I just can't. I can't control my emotions. Well, I mean, I didn't mean it as an attack. No, it's fine. No, I understand that, but no, I understand that, but believe me, I already knew, you know, you with the weed. I already knew what you thought about me. No, hey, no, no. I mean, I look at people with substance abuse problems like I look at myself. Like, I smoke cigarettes, you know, and I have a problem with eating delicious foods all the time. Oh, I'm with you there. And are you smelling that Domino's pizza right now? Yes. So, hey, we're in the same boat, man. Hey, relax, dude. I mean, you bring pizza in here and you hide it from me. I mean, what is this fucking torture here? Maybe you should smoke some of my weed. No, I'm not going to do that. Just come over to the green side. And all of you pot people are always trying to get everybody to smoke their weed. are always trying to get me, me, with all of the problems I've had, all of my very good friends at radio. How wound up you are. And you, you know who they are. They're always trying to put a joint in my hand or put a bong in my mouth or put a pipe in my, you know. I'm going to get you stoned like I get my cat stoned, man. You see, they all, I'm like everybody's cat. They're like, let's bring Whitman over, get him stoned and he'll do impressions and it'll be really funny. And then we'll send him home and we'll pop open the, you know, the Pandora's box and all the demons come out. We'll push him back out onto the freeway of life. Yeah, see what happens. Let him run from lane to lane. Helter skelter, like, like the poor bastard he is. And we'll videotape it too. Yeah, fine. Put it on YouTube. I don't care. Well, cool, man. You know what? We're going to take a break and play a couple more songs. I'm going to blow some pot smoke into Brian Whitman's face and see if he gets stoned from it. And we'll be back on the More Music Radio Pod. We eat pizza. All right. The More Music Radio Pod. Hot skit, real talk, hell yeah. Hot skit, real talk, hell yeah. We're living in a world made of jelly and the shaking won't stop. We're ready to come up under this trouble and we're ready to jump. We accept you, we reject you. We accept you, we reject you. We accept you, we reject you. We accept you, we reject you. 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Soft world. Soft world. Soft world. This is Arlo and Mr. T's. If you want to call in at theskidrow.la, it's 1-800-893-9562. Yeah, we're still smoking at the More Music Radio Pod with Brian Whitman. Happy to be here. Yeah, man. Did you get a contact high off of those puffs? I got a contact high off the, I got a direct shot of the pizza. Yeah, man. A little contact high from you. Mainlined it. Is there another slice? Yeah. That's yours. That's all you, man. It has your name on it. Thank you, Jimmy. There's something nice when I'm eating pizza in front of a microphone. All's right in the world. Thank you, dude. I appreciate that. There we go. That's the way we treat our guests here at Skid Row Studios. Is mushrooms on here? What you got in this place? You never know. Yeah. You know, you got to go, I mean, it's all right, right? I mean, I can eat this. I don't want to go down the stairs. I tried that once. Just hopefully you didn't have a bad day today. You know what I mean? No, I tried mushrooms once. I'll tell you what happened. I was at the radio station in Malibu, Dan. Oh, Malibu, Dan. He thought it was like. You're giving me some flashbacks, man. He kept telling me that I should do mushrooms. He said, Whitman, you're the ideal candidate to do it. They didn't know it was going. I said, I don't think so. He said, no, really, you're perfect. You really need to do this. So he brings them in, in like a plastic bag, right? And there's like four of them there. And he says, take these home. You know, I live a very like private life. I was like home with the dogs just by myself. He says, take them home. He said, here's what you should do, dude. Put them on pizza. You love pizza. Go to Mulberry Street in Encino, get a pizza, and just kind of sprinkle the mushrooms on there and really enjoy it. I said, well, I have, you know, I have real ADD too. I said, F that. I just got to go home and eat them. I'm standing in the kitchen. I take them and I put them in my mouth and I chew them. And it's a horrible taste, right? Yeah, see, that's why they say put them on something good. Vince, immediately I regurgitated them. Immediately went, you know, gag reflex. Threw them up into my mouth and said, this is disgusting. Threw them out and, you know, never went there again. Oh, wow. Because the taste was just so horrifying. Right. You didn't do it right. Yeah, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do it. Speaking of drugs, is there a lot of like drug abuse going on in radio? Oh, Jesus Christ. Well, you're on radio right now, so what do you think? I don't do drugs. There's a lot of drug abuse going. I'll tell you something about radio. Radio, you can look this up. For divorce and alcoholism, radio is the profession that has the highest percentage of both divorce and alcoholism. Of all industries, radio leads the way. Pioneer trend setting. Really ahead of the curve. If you want to leave your wife. That just sounds like marriage goes to alcoholism. And I often wonder about radio. If like crazy people find radio or if radio makes people crazy. It's like a chicken. It's like a chicken and egg. I really don't know. I don't know if radio people are crazy and that's why they go into radio or if they're really just kind of pretty normal and then the radio environment, the broadcasting industry makes them crazy. I don't know, Vince. Up to you. Well, you know what? Before I give my opinion on that, I would like to take another call on the More Music Radio pod. Caller, you're on the air with Brian Whitman. Brian, this is the Candyman. Is this David Klein? Hello. Is this David? If this is the Candyman, can you? Huh? Yes, Candyman can. The Candyman can. Oh, okay. Now I know it's really you. No, it's, yeah, this is David. Forgive me. David, right? Yes. Yeah, David, right. David Klein. Correct. Yes, David, you're talking to the man. Okay. Who I had the privilege of meeting two weeks ago. This man invented. The Jelly Belly. Are you serious? Holy shit. Wow. Wow. The guy invented the thing. David, you invented the Jelly Belly. Yeah, it came right out of my brain on a Thursday night at 8.15 at night. Wow. So how did you come about inventing Jelly Bellies? Like, Jelly Beans already hit the scene, right? We got to do something to get these kids in this van. No, really. I mean, you invented. You invented it. I don't know the backstory. All I know is I heard Bill Handel one morning on KFI talking about it. He's such a good guy. A tremendous man. I had him on my podcast. He's such a mensch. Oh, he is. But he invented. First rate. Yes, first rate mensch. But tell Vince, really, tell him the story. I mean, the Reader's Digest version of the Jelly Belly. Yes, please. The audience wants him. 1976. I had $800 to my name. Which is probably more than I have today. I came out. And no credit cards. There were no credit cards then. Wow. Diners Club, maybe. I didn't have any cards. I was married. I had a son. A year and a half. Were you wearing an ascot at the time? You were, weren't you? No. No, I was not. Oh, okay. No, I was not. Would have been cool. And I was watching Happy Days. It was 8.15 at night. I was watching Happy Days. My wife was at a La Leche League meeting where mothers go learning different breast techniques of breastfeeding. Right, yes. It's amazing how you remember small details. Right. That are really insignificant, but you remember them. Right. My wife came home about 9, 9.15 that night. She had a new squirt move? What happened? She had a new squirt move with her breast milk? A new technique? No, I think it was pretty much, it was the same. A new squirt move. How did you, David, when you were, did you have the idea? A new squirt move. That is so funny. Vince has a million of them. Was there a candy? Who are you that said that? That's Vince. That's Vince. That's me. Vince. Hello, Vince. Hey, how you doing, Candyman? That was very, very funny. Thank you. You didn't demonstrate any new moves for me at that moment. David, was there a candy out that you, I mean, was there a, was there a, was there a candy from which you extrapolated the jelly belly? You know, like you, tell me that part. You looked at the blank and said, well, if I make it and tweak it a little bit this way or that way, I'll get the jelly belly. Yeah, actually, I've always loved Mike and Ike's. Have you ever had them? Oh, my God. I eat them every day. Love them. Love them. At the movie theater? Now, you're too young. You don't remember when they had a root beer one. It was called Rooty Tooty. Oh, I'd love that. Mmm, delicious. The root beer one, and then they had a, a grape one, which was called Jolly Joe's. Mm-hmm. And the company that makes them is in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Oh, I know where that is. Company is called Just Born. They also make a product called Peeps, which are very popular. At Easter time. I hate Peeps. My grandmother loved them. She liked to freeze them and eat them. I was like, put it, drive a pitchfork through them. So you took the Mike and Ike, David, you took the Mike and Ike and said, if I make it a little softer? No, no. I wanted to make it a little smaller. Smaller first. Okay. Mike did that. Didn't really think about the hardness or the softness of it. But the key was I wanted to flavor the inside as well as the shell on the outside. Okay. Most jelly beans at that time were only flavored on the outside. So you ate it and all the shells on the, all the insides were all the same. So that, okay. So, all right. So you're, there's not like a breast milk flavored jelly bean. Okay. I was just wondering where the first flavor might have been. Not yet, man. Not yet. And I understand David's, one of his earliest, biggest supporters was then governor of California, Ronald Reagan. Am I right about that? Well, actually sort of, but not sort of. Well. When he was governor of California, in fact, his signature is on my, my diploma for UCLA. Oh, wow. When he was, I wonder if that's worth anything. Oh, the Gipper. It's probably signed. It's probably a stamp. You know, these guys. Probably. So did you make his, his giant jelly bean portrait? I remember that as a kid. No, but you shipped, didn't you ship a bunch of products to Ronald Reagan? He, Ronald, there was no jelly belly when he was governor. Hmm. That was in like the 1960s. Right. Jelly belly wasn't really created until 1976. Okay. He was a jelly bean fan, not a jelly belly fan when I, when I create, when I create. And in fact, the company that was my contract manufacturer, I was, I struggled to get the product off the ground. I couldn't give it away in the beginning and it was selling for $2 a pound. Wow. The company knew that this man out there not only was a jelly bean lover, they never told, they never disclosed that to me while I was struggling to get it off the ground. So what were some of the, That's very interesting. What were some of the flavors that you had in your first line of jelly bellies? The first batch. Yeah. Eight, eight flavors. Watermelon was one that was one of the first two-toned colors. The outside was green. The inside was pinkish red. Yeah, right. The first multiracial jelly bean. Yeah. Right. It was like the, like the, like the character, you know, Tom and Helen on the Jeffersons. It was like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Lenny Kravitz. Yes. Yes. Sure. I don't know if many people know that or not. Absolutely. And she passed away very recently. Yeah. All right. So watermelon and then Good woman. Good woman. Watermelon. I had to have root beer because that was my personal favorite. Right. By the way, people with a European, European background do not like root beer because, because in Europe, root beer is considered a medicinal. Yeah. See, they're so screwed up in Europe. I mean, they're so screwed up. So, I mean, like in Europe, if you go there and you, you know, and you, and you, you know, and you're an American, they already don't like France. If you go to France, they don't like you. And, and God forbid you rip out an IBC. Why do we go to France? I never, I've never, I'll never go. I'm not going there. If you have an IBC root beer, they look at you like you're some, you know, uneducated, you know, fuck them. We have a factory and the sparklets man came in about four years ago and I, and he came up to me. He said, okay, you need another four gallons. And I said to him, you're out of here. The guy, the guy looked at me like, what do you mean? I'm out of here. I've been, I said, you're now owned by the French. I said, I don't do, do any business. Oh, right. The jelly is all. Oh yeah. I said, I don't even have French toast. So, yeah. And you eat freedom fries from him again. See, this guy's a, he's an all American stud, the candy man, inventor of the, now you can say when I leave, you say, uh, Vince, you can say Brian Whitman came on my show and he really didn't do much, but one thing he did do, he got the guy on the phone who invented the jelly belly and the guy who invented, uh, the Astro pop. He didn't invent, I mean, he invented, Ellie and I bought it. It was a little difference. I mean, it's a late, I mean, you invent it, you buy it. That's still celebrated. That's capitalism. but David, not only is Ellie bringing back Astro pops, but Ellie called me after seeing a documentary on my life. It's called candy man, the David Klein story. Yes. Wow. Can I see them on Netflix? And he said, how come you're not back in the, how come you're not in the jelly bean business? And I said, well, you know, it takes money to be in the jelly bean business. And he said, uh, don't worry about it. I'll take care of that. And we're coming out with David's signature, beyond, beyond gourmet jelly beans. Love that. I was just imagining. Beyond gourmet, as opposed to just gourmet. That's right. How much a bean? Hmm. Uh, price has not been set yet. Oh, okay. All I can tell you is this. They're going to be something that no one has ever visualized before. And how soon do we have to wait for that, David? When's that coming along? I would say within the next 45 to 60 days. Wow. So how's business? I mean, you made a remark like, as if you don't, uh, have a lot of money to your, to your name right now. So I've helped a lot of people in my life and I'm proud of that. I really, really am. Okay. So you're more of a philanthropist. You've helped my wife, Dennis. I never considered myself that. It's just the way it turned out. Well, if you are one, let me know. I'll be over in the morning. If you're a philanthropist, I'd be over at your place. No, David, David was profiled recently in the Los Angeles times. I have pizza in my mouth. It's in the middle of the night, but what kind of pizza? Uh, it's dominoes. Dominoes? It's good pizza. Very good. You know, you know where they started, what state they started in, don't you? Oh, it's like a religious state, right? It's a Mormon thing. I don't know. No, I'm thinking pizza. It wasn't pizza. I think that's in and out or something. Some fast food. They're like real crazy religious nuts. No. Where did dominoes start? David Michigan. They started in. Oh, I did not know that. Is that wild? We got a lot of people stopping by the Mormon music radio pod tonight, man. David, have you guys ever had pizza that you considered not good enough to eat? Um, I'll tell you the other, well, the other, I made a very big mistake the other night. I took Celeste pizza microwavable, right? The Celeste, you buy it frozen and it says microwave three minutes or five minutes, depending upon the power of your microwave, 700 watts or 11. I don't know. I mean, you think I know how strong the microwave is? I mean, I can barely turn it on. So I put the, I put, I put in for five minutes. Oh, right. It came out. I mean, it looked like, I mean, as George Bush would say, I mean, it was nuclear. It had gone nuclear. It looked like something that maybe was a pizza at some point. But, uh, yeah, that was, I, I over nuked it. It's not the pizza's fault. It was my fault. It was an operator's error. It's interesting that you mentioned the microwave because I survive on microwave food for pretty much. And I've never once read the instructions on anything. I put everything in at six minutes and 46 seconds, except for popcorn. So I have never once read any instructions on, on those things. So as the inventor of the jelly belly, do you yourself eat a lot of jelly bellies or do you have like crazy jelly belly recipes? Honestly, I haven't had a jelly belly in, in over a year. You on the wagon, David? Yeah. It sounds like it. You know what? It's just the memory of the product. I was actually forced out of the company. See, this is the true Hollywood story. I have a good taste in my mouth. How were you forced out of the company? Oh, here we go. All I did was I own the trademark and I got a call from the owner of the company and he said he was coming to town and he wasn't leaving until he bought the trademark. Oh, so he kind of, yeah, not heavy handed or anything. No, no, nothing like that. That was in 1980. And you know, the sad thing about the whole thing was, is they actually set out to remove me from history there. They, the history of the product. They came out with a 30 year history of the book. Everything you need to know about the history of Jelly Bellies. But not your name. It's got one thing in there. Yeah. David Klein. That's fucking bullshit. Right. Yeah. That's craziness. Yeah. So how could you have a history without it, without talking about the guy that created the product? Yeah. You invented the shit. Yeah, I did. I did. I really did. Wow, man. That is so cool. Like, I never thought that I'd speak to the inventor of the Jelly Belly. No? Yeah. I do what I can. What's your favorite? How do you make a Jelly Belly? I'm just, or a Jelly Bean. How does that work? Yeah. You need a very, very expensive equipment. You need something called a mogul, mogul, M-O-G-U-L, that makes the center of it. That's the expensive part. And then the outside is panned, like you would do Jordan Elm, and you put a coating on it, like M&M. Oh, really? It goes like in a big old, like, it's kind of like, like a bin that spins around. You know what I'm thinking? It's like a cement mixer. Right. It's amazing. When I was interviewed for People Magazine in 1977, they asked me what the origin of Jelly Beans were. And I had no idea, to be honest with you. Did you fake it? I mean, did you just say, I would just fake it. You know, but what I said has now become the standard of the industry. I said they were a French-Turkish invention. So now, every time you read about Jelly Beans, you're like, man. French-Turkish invention. That came from my mouth. The candy bar. You must feel really torn because you're like, F the French, but then you give them like half the credit, man. That's just some shit you came up with. You know what? If I had hated the French back then, I wouldn't have given them credit. Hell yeah. See, that would have been a German-Turkish invention. Well, you know, they did invent my favorite kiss. Well, David. That's what's going on in my very exciting, very exciting, very exciting, very exciting, very exciting, very exciting, very exciting, very exciting, very exciting, very exciting, very exciting, Oh, we're also coming out, Elia, is introducing a product called Farts, F-A-R-T-S. I saw the farts, I ate the farts. The farts are so awesome. I make a lot of them. Yep, they're good, they're very sweet. not only are they good, but we're going to have a sour one, and a sweet one. Right, sweet, farts, and prim. You know what they're like, David, we should tell people who haven't had the fart candy, and I was, you know, giving them out, when I met you at the Nickelodeon event, for Teen Choice Awards, the, the farts, are, you remember, nerds. You guys remember nerds? They're kind of like nerds, but they're better than nerds. We think they are. I think they are too. They're easier to eat. They're softer. I think they're flavors. Nerds is owned by Willy Wonka, which is owned by Nestle. And when a company gets that size, it's hard. They need a board of directors meeting to just make a decision on what flavor to come out with. Can you imagine a company like Nestle signing off on naming a candy a fart? I mean, they don't have the balls to do that. Everybody has the balls. But it would be great. You go to the movie theater, you get farts. I mean, you're going to be sitting in the movie theater. I mean, it's great. It's just great. What are you eating? I'm eating farts. Yeah, I'm eating farts. What's your favorite candy? Grandma, would you like some farts? Yeah. Come over here. I'm going to wash your mouth out. Right. My granny loves farts. Of course she does. Who doesn't love farts? Yeah. We got some really good stuff coming up. Well, David, we'll be watching and looking, and thank you for calling. You're really a great guy. And if people, if you don't believe David Klein invented the jelly belly, well, then Google David Klein, the Candyman. You'd be amazed at what pops up on your screen. David Klein, the Candyman. Absolutely. Oh, by the way, if anybody has Dish or DirecTV, they can see it for free in the next couple days. It's on the documentary channel. Oh, cool. I want to check it out. It's Candyman, the David Klein story. Candyman, the David Klein story, channel 267. on DirecTV and 197 on Dish. And it depends on where you are when it's going to appear, but it's going to be on within the next couple days. Does it matter if I'm at home? Because that's where we're probably watching. David, I had a question about sweet tarts. Sweet tarts? Yeah. I know Nestle, they incorporate sweet tarts. It was like Sunshine or something like that before that? Yeah, how did you know that? The whole Wonka thing? Because I was a kid in the 80s. Did you live in St. Louis? No, I grew up in L. A. Do you remember Fun Dip? Yeah, I remember Fun Dip. Oh, man. You'd go in there and get the sugar and then you'd eat the stick at the end. Sometimes I couldn't wait and I would have to end up eating the last two bags with my finger. Oh, Fun Dip was like crack. I like when they came with extra sticks. Yes, yes. The company was called Sunline. Yes, Sunline. Actually, Nestle's got really big two candy. They bought Willy Wonka. Willy Wonka was originally owned by Quaker. Quaker Oats. And Quaker Oats financed the original Willy Wonka movie. David Walper was the executive producer of that. A very well-known man. He's the guy that did the Nixon-Frost debates. Oh, wow. And David Walper financed it by going to Quaker Oats and saying, hey, we'll sell you the rights to the candy in return for some production money so we can make Willy Wonka. And Quaker Oats, which is owned by Pepsi right now, by the way. Quaker Oats made a lot of money with their Gatorade. They bought that from Stokely Van Camp. There's like two guys that own everything probably in the world. Go easy because we're owned by Pepsi, by the way. Yeah, we're a PepsiCo product here. Okay. David, congratulations. We'll look for it. Candyman, the David Klein story. That would be wonderful. I'm going to check that out. Living legend. All right, man. David Klein, the Candyman. Big Candyman. Thanks for calling, man. Keep listening. Thank you, David. Always. And we'll be back on the More Music Radio Pod with Brian Whitman. The More Music Radio Pod.did you only let you do? Skid Row. novel novel novel! LA Baby Baby, what's in your mind? 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Leave a structure on this trail It's a matina on the lip Of your novel mental state A new spark of blue to create Leave a structure on this trail It's a matina on the lip Of your novel mental state A new spark of blue to create An empty trail of wind Catheters and a broken skin Make a meal of scented waste You'll feel better in a bigger space Find your way out of this crime That's one way to change your mind Let's divide without desire Then exit this moral fire! Subtitles by the Amara.org community Ya, Chincasu Yarodomo! You are listening to the More Music Radio Pod! Oh, man, you can feel the heat. Yeah, man. Feel the heat. Yeah, and that's just coming from my balls. I know. It's a hot summer night. I thought that was a space heater. I got some balls on you, man. It's the More Music Radio Pod, and... you have been listening to our special in-studio guest, Brian Whitman. I've had a great time. This has really been a lot of fun. Man, you have really come in and showed us how to do it, man. Oh, well... thank you, but you guys do it fine without me. You guys do it fine without me. Don't you worry about me. Yeah, we know. You do know. You do know. I hope you know that. You don't need me in here. No, thank you. That means a lot. Yeah, man. We hope you had a good time coming down to Skid Row Studios and hanging out on the More Music Radio Pod. I always love to come here. I always love to see Jeremy. I always love to come see the setup here because we really are on Skid Row. People think, oh, that's just a name. Oh, no, we're on Skid Row. Yeah. I mean, it's a beautiful facility. When you're sitting in here, you don't think you're on Skid Row. Yeah. And you look out, you look down at the poor bastard 17 floors below and go, oh, yeah, that is Skid Row. You walk out and smell piss. Yeah. And then you realize, wow, I am in Skid Row now. You go, you know, up here with, you know, ginger ale, dominoes, beer and weed, we're living the high life. Down there, those poor slobs are on Skid Row. Someone's getting a blowjob just right on the street. Yeah. It's over for them. But you just jump on that elevator and life is beautiful. Right. So it's quite nice up here, but we are on Skid Row. And we drove through, Jeremy, where you took me, you said they call it in Los Angeles, I've lived here for 15 years, but they call it being on the nickel. Yeah, Fifth Street and down in Skid Row is being on the nickel. Oh, okay. Excuse me. Now, at this hour of the night, well, we can give the time. People don't care. It's not one of those one in the morning, but it's almost one in the morning when we're recording this, if you're listening to it later. Well, then try to get it in your head that it's almost one in the morning for us. It'll be one in the morning somewhere when you're listening to this. Right. At this hour, could you go get pretty much anything on the nickel? I mean, you could go... I wouldn't go down there to buy weed, but if you want crack or meth or heroin, then that's a good place to go. And sex also, obviously. Yeah. How does the nickel relate to MacArthur Park in Los Angeles? Is it a similar vibe? I think it's similar, although I don't have any experience with MacArthur Park. I don't either. It's a little more crowded over here. Yeah. There's a lot of people in it. It's pretty condensed down there. Right. Okay. All right. Yeah. MacArthur Park's a little more scenic. And Donna Summer had this song, you know, about MacArthur Park. Yeah, you got your cake. Someone left the cake. How high was she? Someone left the cake out in the rain, and I'll never have that recipe again. Right. I mean... It never rains in MacArthur Park either. Right. So this is all over the road. And a baboon. A baboon. It doesn't rain there, but have you ever seen a cake sitting out there either? Just, you know, independent of anything, there's a cake in the rain? Have you ever seen that? I don't know. Mexican kids go out there What do you need the fucking recipe for? It could have happened. It's possible. Just fucking flour, eggs, milk, fucking stir it up, throw it in the fucking oven. No, but you're right. Someone left the flan out in the rain. I've never seen a cake out in the rain. But she must have been real high when she recorded. And she doesn't get the... I mean, you guys know music. We talk about, like, crazy song lyrics. Someone left the cake out in the rain, and I'll never have that recipe again. That's so out there. And there's a million of them, others like that. Ah, cake, rain. What's the recipe, by the way? I mean, it's just lyrics that are just so, you know, it just doesn't make... No, I know. It's just so, like, how high were you when you wrote that? And there are just some lyrics that just ring true, like, you know, But I don't know much But I know I love you And that may be All there is to know But I don't know much And I do love you And I do love you And I do love you And I do love you And I was singing The Bee Gees in the car last week. Too Much Heaven came on by the Bee Gees. You don't have it, right? You YouTube too much heaven. I don't think I have that one. I know you guys play, like, serious, like, music. I mean, as if the Bee Gees aren't. I'm listening to Too Much Heaven by the Bee Gees on the coast. I was coasting in the car. And they roll out Too Much Heaven by the Bee Gees, and I start doing... I can really get into it, you know? All right. I'm just doing that. You ever do that, like, sing in the car, and someone says, Hey, your phone... Your phone called me accidentally, and I heard you singing in your car. Do you hate it when your butt dials? I had a friend, Vince. I have a friend. I don't know. He's on the radio. I can't say his name because he told me the story privately, so I don't know if he wants to tell. All right. But you... Oh, this is it, man. Oh, shit. My friend is walking with another friend. Both guys on the radio, you know, they've worked together for years on a talk station. One did the news, and the other took questions from the audience. That's all I'm gonna say. The guy slides out his wife by mistake, right? You know, or not slide out, but, you know, pocket dials his wife. Yeah. He's walking through like an outdoor mall and is commenting vividly on the ass of this woman who's walking through the food court. And the wife's... Hello? And she just hears her husband telling his buddy about this great ass. Look at that fucking ass, man. And it wasn't just, hey, nice ass. It was... I just want to shove my cock inside that fucking ass. I don't know if it was that, but it was somewhere in between nice ass and that. And she heard it all. See, this is a guy... Wait, wait. Will you just turn it up for me? You don't play this on the More Music pod show. Well, we do now. Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! I don't know any words. I just... I don't know a lyric. There's only one BG left or something? No. Maurice? Maurice? Andy Gibb killed him... There's two left. Andy Gibb did... There's two left. Okay. Who are the two? Casey over here. Who... Who are the two remaining BGs? No? Stumpy? Robin and... Maurice. Maurice. Barry Gibb is dead? I think Barry Gibb is alive. Because Michael Jackson... No, no. Barry is alive. Right. Maurice is the one that passed away, I believe. Okay, so Barry... And it's too soon just in case you're gonna throw a Barry joke. And Reby is still alive too, right? Reby Gibb? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm confusing my music. I'm sorry. Latoya? Tito. Zach? Isaac? Taylor? What? Peter? I think that's an 8-bit sample. Wow. Anyway. You don't do this kind of music when you perform, right? Would you cover the BGs? Probably. You would? Yeah, why not? You'd rock it up a little bit. Sure. We'll do it for you, man. I would love... I would come see that. What kind of stuff are you listening to? What kind of stuff do you get into? My musical tastes are really all over the place. I mean, I love... You know, I said earlier, I incriminated myself. I said I like Katy Perry. I think you called her a piece of shit a few minutes after that. I pretended I didn't hear that, but obviously I did. But I love Aerosmith, you know, and I love Bruno Mars, and I love Guns N' Roses, and I love the BGs, and I love, you know... I mean, I just like a lot of the Rolling Stones. I mean, just all over. I can... I can pretty much... I can find something I like on most stations. I mean, you know. But my presets? Mm-hmm. All right, my preset six in Los Angeles would be Kiss FM.