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I'm getting it. Oh, sorry. I am. Oh, I heard that. I tell you, if I had any coordination, I would be frightening. I would be dangerous. Oh, my gosh. I finally figured that the trick to doing it properly is for me to stand up and get some hip action. So I have like one, two, three, four shakes to every hip sway. Right. Rather than trying to sit my ass down. And also, it's like titty twerking. You just got to let the... Let the titties go. Exactly. Let them go. Let them flap as they must to get titty shakes. I will get this down right. I promise you I will. I'm Ginger Lynn. Welcome to Black Friday. I'm Ginger Lynn. I'm Ginger Lynn. I'm Ginger with... Nina Hartley. And who's on the other side over there? Sparky. Sparky. Sparky's here today. And who else do we have? Stevie. Stevie's here? What a surprise. Yes. Oh, my gosh. What would we do without Stevie? Welcome to the show. Hide him in the corner over here. Hey, Stevie. Behind the philodendron. Incognito. I wish. You see, you have Stevie. And if I could teletransport him here painlessly, I would have Alex. You would have Alex. Oh, how is Alex? He's doing well. He's finally fully retired. He's retired 100%. And really enjoying his life. He travels. He putters around. He just gets to do whatever it is he likes to do. That's a nice point in life to be. And so just like Stevie here, Alex likes to sit on the sidelines and watch the situation in the room unfold. I think my favorite early Alex story is I got him in bed between me and another woman and presto, change-o. He is on the bed. He's on the bed. This other bed in the room watching us. It's like, how did he get out of it? He was in the middle a second ago. With his clothes still on. I mean, he just knew how to. Because his preferred thing is, you know, so his idea setting it at a sex party. Right. Would be behind the philodendron or a screen with a viewing hole and a comfy chair behind it. He's the voyeur. He loves being a voyeur. He's the voyeur. But he turned down sex with you? We tried a couple of times and realized the energy wasn't. That's not where our energy is together. Yeah, Stevie and I, we've tried it like every day since we've known each other. And it's just not working. Not working. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I shouldn't say that because you were 16 when I met you. The day that he turned 18. I've been trying to turn him on to girls and I just. You know. I can't do it. So. You know what? Some people are just that way. That born, the born that way thing. But that's nice because you can talk about penis together. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Or men. What do you like about men? What about men drive you crazy? What about dating men is fun? What about dating men is a. I've never dated so I don't know what about dating men is stupid. But I hear about it. You've never dated? Never dated. How do you not ever date? Well, when you're 18, you. When you're 12, you realize you're bisexual. When you're 14, you realize it actually is a real thing. When you're 18, you start dating your teacher. You overlap that with your first husband who you met at work but started out as an affair. Then you go. You go with the husband, you know, him. Him. The one that you met. I know him. And her. And her. Yes. And then that you then overlap that with an affair with the person to whom you are now married. So. Wow. You are one of the most. This is going to sound so strange. Monogamous. Because you're not monogamous. No. You're polyamorous. Is that what you call yourself? Yes. And. Polyamorous. Not the one with the title. I'm on the non. I'm on the non monogamous side of the polyamorous side. I am not monogamous. I am not monogamous. I am not monogamous. I am not monogamous. I am not monogamous. I am not monogamous. polyamorous I'm on the border between non-monogamous and polyamorous meaning that I have I have emotional feelings for People I consider my poly family There's a people with there's a people I play with sort of swing parties because I mean Hartley and they get to be the Hartley And they got a handjob from Nina Hartley or Nina Hartley. Help me my wife fuck Which I love right and then there's the sex that the quote-unquote real Nina has in her private life For her own enjoyment, right? That does not involve earnest Okay, and those people I consider my poly family my poly tribe meaning we all have the similar sexual philosophy And we like hanging out with each other but we're not I'm not in relationships with any right? I don't have it I don't have a so-called secondary earth or tertiary I am Potentially sexual with all the people in my poly tribe with whom that seems like the right thing So you and I are members of the same tribe When we're together the option of being sensual or sexual is there we're not required not required to right? We're not forbidden to right you don't have and but we don't have to yeah, but if you feel like it We're comfortable being intimately touching and we are emotionally intimate. Although we're not romantically involved. I get it So I get it. You're you're you're you're poly friendly. I'm poly friendly you Are like me when it comes to when I'm in a relationship Emotionally, I'm very monogamous. Yes dead parents sickness and health deepest fears Biggest longings and all you know living together morning breath all that you know, the only big difference is that I just don't I I You don't do it outside not to do it without him. I yeah, I don't do without him and I don't do other men I don't do it. But you're but you're open you figure open in the way that works for you And if I had the sense God gave a goose I would have been Single in my 20s I eat not responsible romantically to any one person and then I should have spent my 20s as the unicorn that is in my head that what I wanted To be I like you would have been the perfect Absolutely 20 something you absolutely. I really just like dang So that's why when I meet the younger women who are in their 20s unattached and sexually adventuresome. I encourage them stay single Yeah, enjoy enjoy this. This is awesome because you and I would have probably had a lot more sex if you were the unicorn Oh, yeah, I can I mean not not probably you and I would have been And speaking of fucking I need to bring something up here. Okay, okay you Over the years you've done lots of press. Mm-hmm. I've done lots of press. There's Adult press and when they do an interview they do an interview and they ask you questions and then you read the article and it's What you said and it's about what you said and you know They may have a little misquote here dropped line there or something that you go I didn't say that exactly Exactly, but it's all positive. And it's what they tell you the interview is about. Yes, yes. We're going to talk to you about penis sizes. Penis sizes, and that's what you talk about. So I get a call last week from Radar Online. And, you know, I don't know who's the more reputable sites out there. I don't know who, you know, I'm old school. I know Entertainment Tonight. Right, right. Exactly. You know, I'm not that up on what's the, you know, the Internet sites. I don't know if they're trash talk. I don't know if they're legitimate. I didn't really check. And they called me up and said, would you do an interview or can we question you? George Clooney is finally getting married. He's got this wonderful girl in his life. We know that you had a relationship. And we're just getting quotes from people that want to wish him well. George Clooney or Josh Sheen? George Clooney. George Clooney. You got to play with that. For six months. Yeah. Now I'm officially jealous. But that is not what we're talking about. So you gave them a quote. So I get home Friday night or Thursday night after the show. I do a two-hour interview. And it's all about George and how we met. And we did this series together called Sunset Beats. And, you know, just what a great guy he is. And that I, you know, I'm so glad he found the right woman. And it was all just, I'm not a trash talker. It's not where I go. It's not my M.O. I may occasionally go, she's a fucking cunt, like Tracy Lourdes. But that just, oop, I have Tourette's. But for the most part, I'm not like, I know, it just slips sometimes. I know. You're, yes, I get it. If you're any way responsible for me going to jail, even minutely, then I have issues with you. But other than that, we'll move on. So I do this two-hour interview. And for about five minutes. She brings up Charlie Sheen. She said, well, now, weren't you dating Charlie Sheen at the same time? And Billy Idol at the same time? I'm looking at my timeline here and something's not working out. And I'm like, yeah. And so she says, well, what was Charlie like? And I talk about Charlie for five minutes. And all the good things, everything that there is. You know, he's getting married. He's engaged to Brett Rossi. Good for them. Friday morning. And the interview comes out. Or Friday. And, or the article comes out. And it's called, may I see that, please? Hmm. What is the title of that, Nina? Charlie Sheen's ex-porn star, true love, Ginger Lynn, to new fiancé, Brett Rossi. This won't be his last marriage. Oh, it didn't print out the word warns. Ginger Lynn warns. New fiancé. New fiancé. Oh, man, that is so bogus. Oh, man. And so there's this huge, long. That's not what you meant. And I wish them the best. I even, jokingly, I said, you know, if she needs a bridesmaid, I'll be there. And so this has turned into this big fucking nightmare. I'm so sorry. Brett is sending me DMs. And then after she does that, she's too much of a coward. And I will call you a coward right now because you DM me and then you block me, you fucking bitch. If you have something to say to me, say it to my face. We had no problems before. We have a problem now. I did nothing derogatory, nothing negative, nothing that wasn't right in this article. Everything was true. Everything was honest. Everything was positive. And if you want to slander me, do it to my face. Come on the radio show. I'm putting it out there right now. Whatever. Scottine Sheen, I guess, is your new name. But if you have a problem with me, you have a problem with anything that I say, I want it publicly known. I'm here. Anytime. Come on my radio show. 800-893-9562. You've got my DM. You blocked me after you trashed me. So if you've got something. Yeah, not even a chance to get back to her. So if you've got something. I've got something to say to me. I really honestly wish you all the best. Do I think your marriage is going to last? It's fucking Charlie Sheen. Give me a fucking break. No, I don't. I thought that I, you know, I know Charlie and I haven't known him in 20 years, but I know the fuck what kind of a person he is. And for you to call me out, come and say it to my fucking face. Otherwise, keep your big, sleazy, cock sucking mouth shut. Other than that, I have nothing to say. Okay. Damn. Who is this woman? Anyway, but I did. I'm sorry. I'm just mad at both of them. I'm mad at Rita online. I'm mad at. Certainly. But this is how I think that, you know, in Forrest, some, one of the big anti-pornography feminists of the 70s. Oh, I just have to say one thing. All of those things I said about Brett, those are my personal opinion. I have freedom of speech and I'm entitled to say those things. So, and being the fact that you were a porn star, that does make you a cop. I'm a cocksucker. So I just want to say. You're a professional one. A professional one. And I'm saying these things just in a, my opinion sort of way. This is not. But you said you can say that. You say cocksucker like it's a bad thing. And you and I both know it's a good thing. Oh, cocksucker is a great thing. Are you kidding me? Yes. No, she's a great cocksucker. She's a great porn star. I like her. But to say things to me that nobody else can see. Right. And then block you. And then block me so I can't get back to you. That's just middle school shit. That's just middle school shit. You know, it really is. It's so sophomoric that it's ridiculous and I have no time for it. But I'm more upset. And I don't know where that last part came from. I didn't mean to go off on Brett. You meant to go off on Radar Online for misrepresenting. I went to go off on Radar Online because the whole story was about George Clooney. So now I'm petrified of what the George fucking Clooney story is going to be. I don't know what, you know, if they took a five minute segment of an interview. Made a big old article about that. You can go to Radar Online right now. Look it up. It's and if you read it, it's actually really, really nice. Everything I say about Charlie is nice. Except the headline. Except the headline, which. It's called clickbait. Yeah. You've been clickbaited. Clickbait? Clickbait. So websites, some of them make their money by how many times, how many clicks per page they can get money from that can derive advertising rates. And so, oh my God, that's a salacious and scandalous headline. Oh my gosh. Let's see the dirt. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Click. Where's the dirt? So did I just fuck myself over by saying what I really thought a second ago? Maybe I need to like keep my mouth shut. No, but it is. But it wasn't that derogatory. No, no. Copsucker is a good thing. Yeah. But no, you, you, you, you are. And a bitch is a female dog. But mainly, mainly you can, if you have anything that I wish to be a little bit apologetic is the off putting of some of your energy onto Brett and off of Rayne. I mean, I'm not saying that you're not going to be able to do that. I'm just saying that you're going to be able to do that. Yeah. I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why I don't see why Brett and I know each other. Oh, oh. And we've known each other for years, so she should have had. Oh, I didn't know. We've followed each other. The little piece of that information would have been. We've always been respectful and kind to each other. I don't know her. Oh, got it. Yeah, so for her to do, you know, shit. You know what? No, you were in. Just call me up and go, Ginger, what's up? You were within your rights because you have a, there is a previous relationship between the two of you that beknownst to both of you. Right, call me. And so it's like. Ginger, what the fuck? Why did you say this? If an article came out that said, Ginger Lynn warns Nina Hartley. Don't go there. Don't go there. You know, it's bad. Would you just DM me something and go, you did this and you said that and I wish you would do this and you should have respected that. Or would you call me up and go, Ginger. What? What's going on? You know, I mean, that's. Yeah, exactly. There were even threats. She even threatened Radar Online. Oh, stop. In a tweet. What? What? What? What? What? Attorneys. And then a few hours later, she took that tweet down. Yeah. Yeah. That one came down really quickly. Yeah. Oh, gosh. I just I'm thinking this is this is going to this isn't going to be over. Some people like there are people there are certain people in the world that are just there to be your summer fling. So you always have we go and have a more conventional marriage with a less exciting person, but someone who's better to raise kids with and has to have stable home with. You want to remember. Oh, my God. That summer with Manuel. Well. Oh, oh. And so Charlie, Charlie clearly is the guy to give you that summer in Spain. You will feel like you are the most important, special, wonderful woman in the world. Like you are the only woman in the world, no matter whether, and I say this in the interview. It doesn't matter how, but I knew that he was sleeping with other people, but it didn't matter because when you were together, you were together. And I knew that. And so I guess the point I was trying to get across is, I mean, maybe they already have it worked out where they have an open relationship. It's none of my business. I didn't even mean to get involved in this in any way, shape or form. And now I've just opened my big fucking mouth further. You know what? I'm sorry. And I was over ranting. I'm very sorry. I ranted. I wish that you would have been more mature and called me directly and spoken to me. I would have loved to spoken about it. If you'd like to be on my show, I would be more than happy to, let's get this out. Let's just talk about it. We're all adults. We're all grownups. There's no need to, you know, threaten this and do that and block this, you know, but you also don't need to be a coward about it. And the picture is horrible. They have an X over their picture, Charlie and Brett's picture and you're in black and white. I know. It's just awful. And you're in color. It could not be awful. Could not be more awful. So Radar Online, shame on you. Fully on you. Shame on you. And now that I've vented, I'll wait for the phone calls. Wait for the wrath of everyone when I get home tonight. Nick's already cringing at home going, shut up. Just shut up. You're done. Nina, Nina, hit her in the leg. Come on. Hit her in the leg, Nina. Pinch her under the table. Somebody hit the foot. Something goes wrong. Oh no. But you just sent some more clicks over there. Click bait. Yeah. There you go. They owe you a penny of clicks. So hey, you're Radar Online. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Check. Where's my money? They did mention the radio show in the article though. So I'm very thrilled for that. So if you're listening and it's your first day, normally this is, this show is about fun. It's about sex. It's about things that are gross and funny and disgusting and sexy and romantic and hot and nasty and wild. We have porn stars. We have comedians. We've got people from horror films. We do anything and everything here. If you have an opinion on this, if you want to call out and call me names, I don't give a shit. 800-893-9595. 800-893-9595. 800-893-9595. 800-893-9595. 600-893-9595. 600-893-9595. 600-893-9595. 600-893-9595. 600-893-9595. 600-893-9595. I haven't had this happen in a long time. I've not been, is it bait and switch? Is that what you would call it? That certainly was a bait and switch because the headline promised one thing and the article delivered something. But I mean with what they did to me. Yes. By telling me, you know, this is to give George Clooney well wishes. And I, that's what. And I did. But the scary thing is what's going to happen when the George Clooney article comes out? But you don't warn his girlfriend. I never warned this girlfriend. There was no warning. You know, do you think it was a warning? I said I didn't think it would be the last marriage. That was my prediction. It was more of a prediction than a warning. Unless you think, I don't know. You know, it's like, see for me it's not a warning because I know, I know, the kind of person Charlie is in terms of being in love with love and that kind of, that kind of emotional attachment to the novelty and the endorphin rush and the dopamine rush and all of that. My ex-husband was that way. And so I see, I see that pattern. And Denise Richards thought she knew about his passing. She'd forgiven him and she accepted that about him. And you know, it happened. And they had kids together. So it's just, he, like, I believe he means it when he, he, he, he does mean it. He feels it. He feels it for real and he means it for real when he says it. And I say that in the article as well. And that is, so he's not lying to you. No. But he is also, but long-term monogamy is not his forte. Hasn't been up to date. Yes. Things may change. Things could change. And they may have it where it's an open relationship and they already, she already knows what she's in for. But in Hollywood, really, can someone have, be that open about being in an open relationship because still, the woman will be disrespected. You let him do that? No self-respecting woman would let, would let her man do other girls. Unfortunately, there's already a certain level of judgment that goes along with it because she's a porn star. Oh, yeah. You know, so it's all, and there's a certain, But how dare you say I can't live my personal life in a moral fashion? Exactly. And then there's the whole Charlie Sheen reputation, which it, you know, it all just is this big, muddy mess and somehow, I got in the middle of it. I had no intention. No, you didn't. I apologize for, I don't have anything to apologize for. No, you don't. I don't. I don't apologize. No, you didn't, you know, yeah. So we'll see what happens. We'll see. Now, moving on. Now, let's move on because we've got a great- We're dropping that like a, like a ledge, piece of ledge shot. We've got a great show lined up for you today. We have Anna Fox coming in studio. We've got, Stevie, now, I've got a new game for Stevie. Oh, no. And we're all gonna be involved in it. Oh. Uh-oh. But now, the game is called Who's Who's, Who's What is Who's? It may be, is it supposed to be whom's? No, who's. Who's, who's what is who's? So we've got a, a little thing with little pieces, look at Stevie's face, of paper with body parts. And what we'll do is we'll take turns. Let's say, it's gonna be kind of like tag your it. So let's say we start the game and I'm it first. Okay. So, I'll reach in, grab a body part, or no, I'll be blindfolded. Yes. I was gonna have Jenny, but she's not here. So Andy, can you, can you do some narration today? Because what's gonna happen is, Yeah, what's gonna happen? Depending on who's, let's say I'm it, I will close my eyes. Let's say Stevie draws the body part and it turns out to be a nose. I don't know what it, what it is, but I will have Stevie's nose in my hands. I will have Nina's nose in my hands. I will have Sparky's nose. I have to guess whose body part I'm touching. Got it. So, it will be fun and when we get, Whose what is whose? Whose what is whose? So Stevie may have to touch a, Do you come up with, do you come up with this on your own? I do. I do. I hike in the mornings and I do a seven mile hike and during that hike, I come up with all of these different crazy, insane, fun things to do. But I thought Stevie, I was thinking about Stevie and he's never, you've never touched a clit? I did. You did here in the studio? Remember, we had to play that game and I had to play with that clit while she tried to answer questions. It was, I don't, it was some, I don't know what it was. You had to ask them questions. Oh, what do you do to Stevie? What do you do to this poor man? You'll get to do it too. You'll get to be it. But I like clits. I don't know if Stevie's going to get a clit. I'm attracted to them. I find them appealing, but to, oh my, my poor Stevie. It happened right there. Right. Not that he remembers or anything. It was right there. I touched a clit for the first time. Tell me you're wearing a glove. No, there was no glove. Oh, you poor guy. No, Nia, he needs to know what women are all about. That's just polite. But then you're not going to feel what the clit feels like. You're going to feel like he cares. I know, but I want to open him up to the big wide world of women. A clit is like the smallest micro uncircumcised penis you ever saw. They're amazing. Done. That's all you need to know. It's a micro peen. So just imagine. With more nerve endings, dead and mega fine. Okay, good, good. And on the tip. Yes, yes. That all happened before we heard about how much pressure you were supposed to put on a clit. You may not even draw a clit. You may draw eyelashes. Okay. You may draw eyes. He's going to be the one to figure out what the... We're all taking turns. We will each be it. Oh, oh, oh, I get it. We will each be it. Whoever's it is blindfolded. Yes. Got it. And we've got Anna Fox playing too. Is she here yet? I don't see her. Okay. It's, there's a lot of bad traffic today. Yeah. So that's okay. We're not going to stress about it. I hope there's no shootings on the freeway. We've not had many of those recently, but the heat here in LA for those of you listening. So, so the east is flooding away. The Midwest is getting snow a month early. The Southwest is having flash floods and there's a hurricane off the west coast of Baja, but we're having a drought and Yosemite's burning. Oy. Oy. Yeah. Yeah. Yosemite's burning. Yosemite's a big, big fire in Yosemite. Oh, is there really? For real? For real. I'm not joking. Oh my goodness. It was 108 when I got in my car today and, and luckily, fortunately, there's not many winds here, but I had no idea about Yosemite. I think the lightning strike, you know, is this one, it's a natural fire? It is a natural. Thank God. It wasn't a camper, but it was, I think, heat lightning because it's really hot and it's dry. Yeah. Yeah. We've got a lot of things going on without the solar flares and everything else. It's just, we had a big old power surge, didn't we? Was anybody watching TV at about two o'clock last night and it was a huge old power surge? In the morning? Two o'clock this morning? Yeah, you were sound asleep. No, I was sleeping, honey. All right. You have a child, you have to get up and get to school. I was way gone by then. Bye-bye. You know where you want to go right now? Where do you want to go? Well, you and I aren't going though, but everybody listening can go to the screamingo.com. You can find your favorite cock ring, you can find your favorite box, you can find your favorite vibrator, your favorite bullet, all kinds and everything that you can think of at the screamingo.com. 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That's Thursday's Whores and Horrors with Ginger Lynn and Kelly Nichols. McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane McFarlane We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. All right. So what we're going to do now in a second. So I need gloves for this? Andy is going to take over. If you put gloves on, you won't be able to really tell what you're feeling with this. Yeah. I don't know. You don't need gloves. I don't need gloves. No, you're not going to need gloves for this. It needs to be either Ginger or me to do this one. Yeah. Yes. So it can be. Okay. So what's going to happen is you're going to feel both of our body parts. Sparky, do you mind narrating so that Stevie doesn't hear either of our voices and he doesn't know who he's feeling? And I just want to tell you, if you're watching, if you're not watching right now, you're insane because Stevie's face looks so scared. It's so cute. I don't know what it is. Okay. That's because we haven't started it yet. Oh, okay. So you're going to be figuring out what the body part is and who it belongs to. Oh, that's right. I kept waiting for them to say what it was. Yeah. You don't get to know what it is. You have to guess what it is and who it belongs to. Okay. So Sparky is going to narrate. Yes. And then it's going to be me or Nina. There's not a big whole lot of choices here unless... Oh, wait a minute. Andy and whoever's in the back room, everybody come on in. This is the body part right here. Anybody want to play that's in the back? It'll make it so much more fun. He won't know who to say who it is because he doesn't know who's in the back. I know. I know. All right. Sparky, start talking. Okay. So we're waiting now. Where do I go? Just stay there. These four beautifully polished female feet. What? What? We're walking over toward you. Okay. All right. And one of us is going to give you a body part in a second. Okay. Let's see. I'm sitting here quietly. Somebody's grabbed my hand. And? I have a finger. Oh, what is this? What is it? Keep going, Stevie. Keep going. It's a finger. He's touching. Almost. He's touching. No. It's a toe. I think. I think it's a toe. It is. And be more specific. I don't know. Am I only supposed to use one finger? And that's what it is? You're right there. You're red hot. Oh. Okay. Okay. It's a toe. A toe. Or a big toe. A toe. And. Was this specific? Yes. Was I. Was I. Very specific. My finger put some. Oh. A toenail. You got it. And apparently I'm a really bad narrator. Oh, okay. So the first one. Oh, is this the same? Okay. So I do another one. Okay. It's a toenail. So. Yeah. I think. Wait. What is that? Oh, those are my more toes. Okay. So I would say. That. This one. I have to guess whose it is, right? I have to guess. Okay. So I would guess that this one is. I don't know. I would say the first one was Nina and the second one was ginger. Woohoo. Oh, my God. My mouth. My mouth already. My mouth hurts from smiling. I know. You can take the blindfold off. Yes, Stevie. You were correct. Both of them were toenails. Woohoo. And you figured out whose toes were whose. Okay. How did you know? Because one had nail polish and the other one didn't. They both do. They do? Yes. They both have polish. Oh, what do you have? Pink. Nina has pink. Do you have a matte finish? Because one felt more of a. More natural. Yeah. Let me feel yours. One was natural. It felt more matte. And one felt really, really slick. Interesting. Let me see. Here. Mine is like slippery because I've got the purple gel. Oh, how clever of him to make that distinction. Mine is just an old pedicure that needs refurbishing. It's a natural pedicure versus. Good job, Stevie. Good job, Stevie. Wasn't that scary? You looked extremely frightened. I was confused because I couldn't figure out what I was supposed to be touching. And then I had to narrow it down to an actual part because I thought, well, it's a finger. So am I going on an exact part? Yeah, the exact part. Exactly so. It wasn't like feeling a whole foot to figure out whose it was. Right. Because for the word foot, easy. Yeah, foot would be. And this is one of the things that I, I, we, I've talked about this many times. I love sensory deprivation, but only by blindfold. That's the only part that doesn't make me uncomfortable. I don't want my ears covered. I don't want my, now you can put a ball gag in my mouth, but don't close my, my nose. Right. Don't pinch. You know, there's just all these little things. But have you ever been in a samadhi flotation tank? I have. Isn't it amazing? I freaked the fuck out. No. Oh, you didn't like it? No, I was so claustrophobic. You wouldn't be good with hoods either then. No. You know what though? I, I put the cum bucket mask on. It's different. A mask is not a hood. A mask, a mask keeps your eyes open. A hood often covers your eyes. Oh, you can't see. So it covers your eyes and your ears. So it's a little more. Yeah. A little more. For certain people it's claustrophobic. For me it's very relaxing. For other people it's, it's like bats in an attic. How do you feel about pillowcases with belts? Ay, ay, ay. A pillowcase with a belt? That could be sort of around the neck. But not the belt tied around my neck, but the pillowcase over my head and then a belt that's loose enough, but it's, it's scary enough that you've got a belt on. That would be, that'd be, that'd be, that'd be freaky in that rollercoaster way. Yeah, totally. Yeah. And cause you've got the extra thing hanging and you know it's somebody's belt and a belt, you know, my neck is a lot smaller than my man's waist. Right. No. And it symbolizes a lot of things. So I, I like the, the fun of being, you know, of power exchanging BDSM is the control, you know, the control of your body. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the fun of power exchanging BDSM is the controlled adrenaline of a rollercoaster versus the out of control adrenaline of a car accident. And that's the, that's the difference. You're still playing with scary things. Wow. Good analogy. But that's exactly the difference. Adrenaline, we all like adrenaline in the way that we like it. You know, I don't do a lot of airplanes, but I get why people do. Exactly. I don't, I don't, I don't rock climb with, I don't do barehanded rock climbing, but I get why people do. I know. Seriously. I, but I guess. get why people do um i i get why people walk dangerous parts of town so i i use my adrenaline i i put my adrenaline ah into sex into sex well and that's where it belongs and where it belongs and then with the blindfold this is a good way and and try being the one normally when i have a blindfold on i'm the one that things are being done to of course try wearing a blindfold and touching someone else yes that's a great because you don't know where you are now did you thought that a toe might have been a finger or it might you didn't know it was a toenail toenail so you can do a lot of things with a blindfold and i've never done this where i wore it myself i will but the next sexual oh i've got my next sex planned yeah i don't plan sex a lot but you know what but just definitely the idea of being the blindfolded doer yes a blindfold a blindfolded hand job is just the funnest thing in the world to do you so i wear the blindfold while i'm giving my man a hand job or give him a blow job that will be a really simple one that i will incorporate simple absolutely it's a weird yes he he it's a lovely mix-up of the usual dominant submissive dynamic yes where the blindfold person doesn't know what's coming next but when you are blindfolded to the person who's blind folded to the person who's blind folded to the person who's blind folded to the person who's doing it i don't even know why i don't even know why i don't even know why i don't even know why i don't you become more impersonal objects. Exactly. Their partner's coming next. Oh, I like that. Because you're just the blowjob bot. The blowbot. The blowbot. But being inside, being the blowbot, this is pure sensation. You can't look up and see his twinkle in his eye. You can't look up. All you can do is, your world's reduced to just the dick in the balls. How his cock feels in my hands. In your mouth, yeah. And I bet my, because I'm depriving myself of my visual. Appreciate it. You'll be even better at cock sucking, which will be fucking scary because I know that you're really good at it now. That would be, I'm going to give that one a shot. I like this game. Do you want to play another round? Sure. And the easiest kink of all, because there's no bondage involved, nothing's going to hurt you. Just take it off when you want and be done with it. So it's a very, that's why blindfolds are the first. Let's try this. Let's try blindfolds. But we don't play with them much anymore. I don't need the help anymore to let go and have a good time. But for beginners, I totally understand the benefit of blindfolding, of helping turn down the monkey mind a bit. And just. Yeah. And even for, you know, veterans. For me, I still really enjoy not knowing where my man is or what's going to happen next or what that feeling is or what he's touching me with. Or is it going to hurt? Is it going to feel good? Is it going to be hot? Is it going to be cold? Am I going to be punished? Am I going to be, I love not knowing. So I'm by no means vanilla or new. No, no, no. And I still love, love, love a blindfold. Yeah. That's fun. Yes. Maybe one day you'll, maybe one day you'll play. We should play another round. Yes. You want to play one more? We don't have to. Okay, good then. Because we have someone on the line. We do. We do. We've got, I believe it's Sweet Pea. Hello, gorgeous ginger. Hello, Nina. Hi, Stevie. Hi, Sparky. How are you? How are you tonight? Hi, Sweet Pea. We are all doing very well. Nina. Hello. Nina missed it. He just wished you hello and hi. Thank you, Sweet Pea. I was on another radio show the other week and he called in there too. Sweet Pea, you're just, you just love porn, don't you? Absolutely. You love your porn stars. Who's your favorite porn star of all time? Oh. I mean. Ginger. Ginger. Nikki and Nikki are all, and Chrissy and Nikki are all, all four at the very top. Aw. And so you go for, you've got three blondes and a brunette there. Yep. Yeah, you've got a good variety. So what's going on, Sweet Pea? Tell us about your latest sexual adventures or did you have a comment on something? I had a good time with my milf this weekend. My Tia seems to be on vacation because she hasn't contacted me lately, but she'll be around when she's ready for me. Your Tia's? Yes. We've got one that, we've got somebody coming on the line in a few minutes here. We've got, I can't remember who we've got coming in. Tiffany Starr is going to be on the phone in a few minutes. So I'm wondering, can we do a three-way phone call? No, we can't do that. No, nevermind. Just thought that you might like to give her a shout out, but we've got, you want to make sure that you're listening to the show and you keep it up. So you were with your milf this weekend. Anything new and exciting? We just kept it simple and did the things that we always continue to like to do. So who's normally in charge? You or she? I like it when she takes charge first and then I take charge second. And how long does the average session last? A little over an hour, but we never look at the clock. That's nice. That makes a big difference. There's nothing worse than a clock watcher when you're with a lover. Right. It's making sure that she's a clock watcher, not a clock watcher. Yes. There you go. I think that's it. Yeah. Boom. Now, Sweet Pea, we've talked about this a little bit before. You were a virgin when you started listening to our show years ago. Where and who was, where was your first time and who was it with? Yeah, I'm in Boynton Beach and about maybe 25, 30 minutes away in Boca Raton was my first experience in an apartment building. In an apartment building? Yes. All right. Was it in the bedroom? Was it in the bathroom? Was it in the living room? Where were you? In the bedroom. In the bedroom. And who was it with? You don't say names, just was it a lady? Was it a TS? Was it a girl? It was a girl, yeah. I wasn't with a TS until maybe close to like six, eight months later. Until you were a little more comfortable with your sexuality? Yes. Wonderful. When I wanted to branch out a little bit more to experience and the knowledge. And the things that I wanted to try and do, then I wanted to branch out and go that direction. Had you had fantasies about TS's before? Yes. I've seen pictures of them. So I did have some fantasies, yes. I think with a TS you get the best of all worlds. Indeed. You really do. You've got everything that you need. All wrapped up into one beautiful package. Indeed. One of the guests we had, I think when I was hosting alone, she was talking about that women love fucking her because it's like a dyke with the best dildo ever, the best strap-on ever. Oh, you know what? Yes, yes. If you've got a girl that knows how to do a strap-on. But a trans woman, that's what the trans woman's female partners say. It's like being with a woman with the best strap-on ever. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I get it. Yes. I still haven't been with a tranny. And I don't think I could only because I don't know if it would count as being with another man. Because it's not a man. It's not a man, but it is a penis. But there is a penis involved. But the person does not identify as male. They're not a cross-dresser. They're not a female impersonator. They're women. They're women. That's where the... But that's something that you and your man would have to talk about. And is that something he would want to be a part of? No. Exactly. No. That's why Ernest does not want to see me be boy butt. If I want to be boy butt, I have to do that on my own time. If you want to be boy butt? Beat boy butt. Beat boy butt. Oh, okay. I need to do that on my own time. That's your own time. Yeah. Right. He has no interest in sharing that space with me. And I don't blame him. And what is boy butt? I mean, beating, beating, having male submissives. Male submissives. Okay. He's not interested in seeing me with male submissives. Interesting. He's heterosexual. Yeah. That's why we like sharing female submissives. Female submissives. Yeah. I, I've never been with a male submissive that I knew of. You know, I've played. No, no. It's not to laugh actually, because some people, my ex was actually a submissive, but did not, a bottom heavy switch, but he didn't understand that energy did have, had no words for it, had a lot of shame about it. And we never were able to bring that energy into a healthy place in the sexual dance between us. Right. And because I was inexperienced, I didn't understand that's what was, that's what was going on. But with the, with the, with the distance of time, I realized that, at the time I was with my two other partners, we were three, three bottom heavy switches in search of a top. Oh my. But none of us, but none of us understood that, that aspect of the dynamic. Yes. And plus the layers of emotional bullshit and the layers of bullshit, bullshit. And, you know. Do you believe, Sweet Pea, thank you so much for your call, honey. I'm sorry, Sweet Pea. Was there anything else? Went off and it's ignored. Was there anything else that you wanted to tell us, baby? Sweet Pea? It was a joke, but what would you call a sex toy for Sparky? What would you call a sex what for Sparky? A sex toy for Sparky. What would you call a sex toy for Sparky? I don't know. What would you call a sex toy for Sparky? A spark plug. Oh, she's going to steal that. Thank you. That was adorable. Thank you, Sweet Pea. Why did we think of that? I love it. That was a really good one, Sweet Pea. It's always good to hear from you, honey. Thank you so much for calling in. You're welcome. Have a great evening. You too, baby. Thank you. So, Nina, what I was going to ask you is, I've heard this from many people that subs are truly the ones in charge. Oh, in any ethical situation of power exchange where one person is putting themselves at the physical mercy of the other person through restraint, or, you know, difficult things. Yes, because as soon as the action upon person withdraws consent, any further activity becomes breaking the law. Okay, so as soon as I say Rumpelstiltskin, if they continue, then... Then we've got a problem. Then they're being an asshole, a jerk, a pig, and depending on how far they take it, even a rapist. So any ethical person would, as soon as you say Rumpelstiltskin, will go, I'm so sorry. What's wrong? Oh. I'm going to take you down. You need to talk. I'm so sorry. Or where Rumpelstiltskin is, this panic attack as in, I have to stop now versus my foot to sleep. I'm so distracted. But still, the person in doing the doer or the top or the dominant depends on the submissive or bottom having enough self-respect and self-esteem to be able to, I depend on you to be able to say, ow, my knee. Right. As opposed to... Ow. Exactly. Versus, you know, so, you know, ma'am, my knee gets me out of hitting mode and into rearranging you to your comfortable mode because I don't want to hurt. I don't want to... I don't mind hurting you, but I don't want to damage you. And hurt is an air quotes, of course, as you know. It's not... Exactly. Although I do, I mean, I'm masochistic. I do like being air quote hurt. When I'm turned on, very strong stimulation feels even better. Ah. And it's challenging in a way and gets my, gets endorphins. I'm not a runner. I don't pump iron. Right. You know, there's a certain kind of physical stress that you can put yourself through until you have some kind of breakthrough hormone release. Childbirth, long hikes. Okay, okay. Martial arts. Things that... You really wake up in a really good sweat. Yes. You know, you're... Yes. You're really... Yes. And so, you know, the way I like to have sex is the same way. I have a... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... have a nervous system that likes very strong, forceful, but not impersonal force plied against it. I understand completely. And by impersonal... And... And... And... I don't want a stranger doing anything to me. And when you hit me, I need... I... You know, I need to know that you're paying attention to my response. The next hit's equally delicious. Exactly. Exactly. Because... So there's that. And I'm good on both ends of the whip. I like to use a whip. I like to be whipped. And so, the way you... do it it's a dance so instead of hitting you with my hand i'm hitting you with this thing i still have to pay attention to you oh absolutely you know and that's the fun you can't just look over here and hit over here it's like no i want to see it hit your ass i want to see a look on your face when i hit your boob and have you have you go whoa seriously there's a gleam with it when you get the right person and you're and you imagine and masochists don't like pain they require intensity so so am i a masochist absolutely oh okay so you so when i stub my toe it hurts pain's pain right so pain you know pain feels good no pain is pain pleasure is pleasure but i do like intense sensation is pleasurable to me sensation that spark might go you're hurting me you're pissing me off what the you know you know what the fuck i'm going oh not me you know the things that earnest does to me that i love love love she would she would rip his face off! because it just it just it just that's not her thing not not even a little bit yet she likes intense sensation as well but it's a different kind of intensity so everybody's nerve endings are calibrated differently which connects to their emotions differently which connects to their sexual orientation differently and so people who are masochistic or intensity junkies but don't know that might provoke might have a lot of makeup sex they'll provoke a fight so they can start fucking while they're still mad because they don't they because they don't understand that what they need to be is basically consensually hit, flogged, right, you know whatever body slammed again we have we have you've seen our house we have a place on the wall we could wear that's designed for body slamming because some people respond really well to that and they start giggling you always tell a masochist because the more intense the sensation gets the more they giggle really yeah and so you know Ernst will be hitting me and and i'm just like you know he's hurting me it's like i'm like i'm sorry laughing, okay, you know, i'll do those So some people process pain by laughing. Yes. And so that makes pain, air quote pain, that makes it pain fun for us. That makes playing with intense sensations fun for us because as opposed to having it trigger anger or trigger fear or trigger tears, you know, because you and I know that we're not actually in danger. So intense physical sensation on our nipples, for example, doesn't make us fight or flight. It makes us. Exactly. Exactly. We're still processing the sensation, you know, because vocalizing helps us process intense sensation, which is why you should be able to scream during childbirth. And they did a study, a scientific study, you know, if you can, swearing helps you process pain. So here's thumb and the people who were able to say, goddamn motherfucking son of a bitch, bitch, bitch, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, process the pain better than people who were silent. So being able to swear. Oh, then I process pain incredibly well. Yes, exactly. But you're also, you're a martial artist. You've given birth. Yeah. Yeah. So, and you, and you. I've skydived. Oh, my God. I was a perfectly good airplane. You and Ernest. I promise. It wasn't perfectly good. There was a hole in the back of the duct tape. It was scarier to stay in the plane than it was to jump out. Wow. Oh, my God. Yeah. There was duct tape holding one of the doors shut. I was holding the flap down. There was no door. There was a flap. And I had my boot. When I got into the plane, I'm strapped to like Joe Blow. Right. And I'm going to be jumping. You tandem jumping? Yes. And I can't remember how high up we are, but we were, you know, it was long enough that you could fall and scream and pee your pants. At least you had time for that. We got on the plane and the guy says, he lowers this little piece of flap, piece of fabric and says, can you hold this down with your foot? So I'm attached to Blow Joe. I've got my foot stretched out. There's the duct tape on the front window. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay..! there's a hole in the tail of the plane. Which way were you going to jump out of? Which way? Were you going to jump out of? No. No? Yeah, the plane that I'm jumping out of, there's a hole in, in the tail. And then we get to the part where I'm about to jump, and the guy says, okay, what we're going to do is, now he's, I'm kind of basically sitting on his lap, and I'm going first before any, there's one other person in the plane. And he says, okay, now I'm going to have my arms around you, and we're going to go one, two, three. On three, we're going to jump. I'm like scared to fucking death. I'm dying. Why am I doing this? I'm thinking I'm going to have a heart attack right now. And he goes, one, and shoves me out of the fucking plane. There's no two. There's no three. There's nothing else. Nothing else at all. That mad back scene where he pulls the arrow out of the guy's leg. Yeah, one, there's no counting. No. And all I remember. Is screaming loudly. Is screaming, fuck. But at first, no sound comes out. Really? And I always thought that when people skydive, and you've seen it where they didn't make it, the parachute doesn't open. And I always thought that your whole life would flash before you, and it would be petrifying, and it would be wonderful memories, and all these things, and you think you're going to die. And when you're free falling like that, there's not a thought in your head. You can't scream. You can't think. You're just going. I could have splatted on the ground and would have never known that it was coming. It would have been all over, and I would have not had a clue. But that's the adrenaline high. That's the sex high. The same thing that we're talking about that I need in my daily life. And we were just doing the blindfold thing, and one of the things I wanted to bring up to people is it's not always easy with your partner to get them to do the things that you want to do or to ask them. Sometimes it's a little uncomfortable. Just a quick little note, what I did this weekend, Nick and I were playing a game of Crazy Eights. Oh my gosh. It was last night. I'm making chili. Once I make it, he's the official stir. We're playing Crazy Eights. And we play for sex. We play for who wins. So last night, if I won, I got to be hogtied and beaten. That's what I chose. Nice. If I win the game, you hogtie me and beat me. Your ass is covered with a hogtie. You don't have to be beaten and then hogtied. Then I can beat your front. It's still, no, the way my mind works, you can still get to my ass. Cool. You can totally get to my ass. Sweet. Yeah. So I will be hogtied and beaten tonight. Oh, you lost. I know. I know. I'm perfect. I lost. But if he lost, what was he? What was he going to have to do? Oh, wait, no, that's if I won. Oh, oh. No, but he won. If he won. And I asked what he won. He said he would let me know. So I'm hoping. It's hogtying and beating. It's hogtying and beating. So we'll save the blindfold for another night. We will be right back. Right now, go to thescreamingo.com. Tell them Ginger Lynn sent you. Type in Ginger for the opera code. Find all of your favorite toys at thescreamingo.com. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. I think. I haven't played it yet. How about Strip Candy one? Strip Candy one. Strip Candy one. Strip Candy one. Strip Candy one. Strip Candy one. It's meant to be with you. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. Yeah, like a Moby's. space up. It's just a little party and takes like two hours, two and a half hours at the most. And then after the things get sold, then a check will come in the mail. It's amazing. It's lots of fun. We will do that when you get to town. I don't see a reason not to do it. No, no, absolutely not. Well, thank you for calling in to us this afternoon. How is your career going? What are you doing these days? Are you still performing? Yeah, I'm still performing. I actually started a transsexual strip club in Providence. Awesome. Yeah, and it's only like one in five in the entire United States. And me and this girl, Tara Emery, who's also a porn star, we're one of the top girls there. Because we're the two porn stars. There's a lot of cute girls there. It's doing well. That's crazy. A lot of money, a lot of people come in, and it's really good for the community, too. Because, you know, maybe if we start doing it, more will open up. Because it used to only be three, and now there's five. That's incredible. Lowly, but surely. That is really awesome. The fact that there's enough women to staff the shifts is pretty incredible as well. How did you get backers for something like that? That is a really expensive proposition, starting a club. Oh, to strip? It's easy. I walked in, they looked me up, and now they said, you're hired. No, but you said you opened a club. Does that mean that you got investors? Oh, I didn't open the club. Oh, oh. It's a guy who owns a strip club in Providence called the Satin Doll. And he wanted to have a TF strip night. Oh, so it's what? It's his idea, and sincerely owned a couple clubs. Because he has another strip club called Cadillac Lounge, but there's no TF night there. Fantastic. So what night's TF night? It's Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturday nights in Providence, Rhode Island. Wow. And it's seven. Usually I didn't get off until about... You know, like nine or ten. Oh, yeah, of course. But, yeah, it's a lot of fun. It usually goes on until two in the morning, except on Thursdays it goes to one. Wow, so that's not a strip night. That is giving the club over on the prime nights of the week. I mean, so you think about ladies' night, it's Thursday night, right? Yeah, and that's when I first tried out. I danced during the day with the, you know, the genetic girls. Uh-huh. Because the guys couldn't tell. I bet not. I got in trouble because I wasn't supposed to do a lap dance, and I went back there, and the guy didn't realize. Oh, yeah, you can't do that. They're going to, you know, oh, sweetheart, don't put yourself in danger. Because then he'll feel punked. I can take care of myself. I bet you can. I bet you've had to. So when did you start being able to live as your true self and not try to hide who you were? I didn't hide who I was when I was 15, but I was engaged. So I kind of... I didn't do a denial thing, but I transitioned at 17, broke off the engagement, not because I wanted to, but she wanted to get a woman. She's like, sorry, I want to be with a big, muscly lumberjack dude. So she went back with her ex-boyfriend, and I transitioned, and I've never been happier. That's amazing. So did she get engaged to you thinking that you were just a cross-dresser or... No, I told her I was trans, and I was planning on transitioning when I was 15. Uh-huh. Oh, you'll get over it. Oh, Tiffany, you don't really mean it. And that's a lot. I mean, clearly, she didn't understand that you meant it. No, she didn't think I meant it, but what she told me was she would support me if I did it, and she would stay with me. But that's probably because she didn't think I was actually going to do it. Sure. So when I actually started getting on the hormones and getting everything changed, she's like, I can't do this. Right, well, and fair enough, because if she's heterosexual, she didn't sign up to be a lesbian. Yeah, exactly. She just wasn't in the girls. Mm-hmm. No loss, not much. She was fine. Absolutely. So are you, what is your preferred, do you have a romantic partner at present, and do you have a preferred style of relationship? Are you topi or bottomi? You like flowers and ice cream or whips and chains or more than one? Oh, all sorts of stuff. You know, we'll start with the relationship thing. Relationship topic's a little finicky right now. I do have a girlfriend, but she's been acting really weird lately. Mm-hmm. She's been going out with her. It's a new friend, some girl. No, it's some straight girl, so I know they're not doing anything, but she's been getting her, you know, hooked on things I would prefer not her to do. Oh, man. And she just blocked me on Twitter. Oh. And took the relationship status off Facebook. I don't know what's going on. Goodness gracious. So, you know, who knows how that's going to pan out, but it's not like I can't get another girlfriend. No, so do you consider yourself gay then? Yeah, I consider myself a lesbian. I primarily date women. By primarily, I mean only. Right. There you go. That's pretty clear. Yeah, well, I mean, I've been on dates with guys before, you know, but not like relationship-wise. Right. But the dates usually pan out to nothing more than dinner and a movie and stuff like that. So do you work with men? No, there's no anal sex on the backseat of the Camaro. No, no, no. Well, if you're not, you've got to be a woman. Right. Right. Right. Right. If you're not bi or not bi, do you work only with women on camera then? Yeah, and I work with men on camera. I mean, I'd be lying if I didn't say I didn't have some fun with guys, but it's more their personality than their junk. Right. No, I know what I call them. We call them bi dykes. They don't mind fucking men, but they're not going to have a relationship with a man. Emotionally, it's all about women all the time, but the occasional peeing is not a bad thing. Yeah. So bi dyke is a category of dykes, like one of the nice things about the blossoming of the LBGTQ community is now you can be the kind of dyke that you are, the kind of lesbian that you are. And so if you are a lesbian, a friend of mine is totally gay, but she says, you know what? I don't mind riding a high hard one every now and again. Now when she's with genetic men, she's dominant over them, but sometimes she just likes, she likes some peeing, but she's not going to date one or bring them home or have dinner with them. See, now I can tell you, I can see myself completely being with Tiffany. And we were talking about this earlier. Tiffany, we're talking about, you know, I'm in a monogamous relationship with a man and I don't have sex with other men. So the question that I was asking myself and Nina is, if I had sex with a TS, would that be having sex with another man? But no, exactly. It's not because you're a woman and the fact that you love women, that would make it even more, just amazing for me. It would make it more passionate. Much more passionate. And you're so beautiful. Yeah, I wish we could get some pictures posted of you up on the screen. Oh, can we, do you have a website, sweetheart? Yeah, it's tiffanyxxx.com. I mean, some of the newer stuff isn't as good. I need a new makeup artist, but most of the stuff is good. I've updated some recent good stuff, but I have a lot of good stuff on there. I'm looking for, looking for more, doing more girl, girl stuff on my actual site because a lot of the girl, girl stuff I do is for other sites, especially kink. But I have a few good girl, girl stuff on there. I did one recently in L.A. But yeah, I just recently started shooting in Rhode Island. Oh, right on. Are they doing a lot of porn there in Rhode Island now or is this, you find you're doing it on your own? There's a photographer. His name's Ernie. He's great. So that's not an issue. And I'm an FNC girl, so getting models isn't a problem. The problem is I need to find a definitive makeup artist. Yeah, no. You know, I can do some makeup, but I'm not that great with makeup. Exactly. I prefer to have a makeup artist than try to do my own. We all do. Yeah. I hope you can find a good one because when you find that relationship, I've been seeing the same hairdresser for 16 years. So when you find the relationship with a makeup artist, you're going to find a good one. You're going to find a good one. You're going to find a good one. You're going to find a good one. You're going to find a good one. A makeup artist that you can cultivate over time is really lovely. And it really is a relationship. Oh, yeah. It's somebody that knows your face, that knows you. What is it like for you, Tiffany, when you go out and you have hot guys hitting on you all the time because you are so stunningly beautiful? How do you react to that? It's good. I take it as a compliment. It makes me feel good as a woman. It makes me feel like I've come far being the girl I want to be. And any girl should be excited about any kind of compliments. It's the day you walk past a guy, and he just looks at you and shuns his head that you go, oh, no. Yeah. What happened? No, that started happening to me a few years ago when I realized I was, unless I'm dressed up as Nina. Right. I am now, without my Nina drag, I am a middle-aged housewife. But you're stunningly beautiful, but it's a different reaction. But it's a different thing. It's not, I don't read sex. Unless I'm dressed up for sex, I don't automatically, by the fact of being young, get it. Just by walking by. If you're young, that automatically puts you in the sexy category. 30 and under, just because you have the bloom of youth upon you. Yes. And later, at our age, making an effort. But I do know, when I put on a tight dress and a pair of high heels and a push-up bra, I can still bring it. I'm not. Yeah, I mean, you can't dress sexy everywhere. No. If I'm going to go out shopping, I'm not going to wear a mini dress with heels. No, but I bet you rock a pair of leggings. I can actually do that. I bet you, I bet you, I bet you really rock a pair of leggings because one of the fabulous things about being trans that you will never have saddlebags or cellulite on your legs. You lucky girl. You'll be able to wear the micro minis until the wheels fall off. Because, and well, you too, Ginger, you know, because of your physiognomy, your legs are going to be the last to go. They'll be the last to go. Your legs and your tits. My legs and my tits. The baby doll was made for you. Yes. The baby doll was absolutely made for me. Absolutely. And I, you know, but, uh, DSs often have also the nice slender hips. They have that beautiful model look. How tall are you? I'm 5'7". I'm not that tall. And what size are your titties? Ooh, hello. I know, she's gorgeous. Are my titties, they're a D cup. You've got a D cup? Nice. And I may get them bigger, but right now they're looking pretty good, so I haven't decided. You know what? If they're, if they're comfortable, wait a bit so that you know that you're totally comfortable with, with, you know, going bigger. The only reason I say it is when I was pregnant, my intern, I had 36 double Ds and I found that they got in the way of my, I couldn't put my arms down. Oh, no. You know those bodybuilder guys that have their arms that are kind of out all the time? They look like their, their elbows are up. Right, because the latissimus dorsi are so big they can't, they can't fold them flat, yeah. So I felt like a dude when I had bigger tits because my arms were out. Was that, was that when you were pregnant? That was when I was pregnant. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're already, they're D cup now. I, they're not. I can't imagine you a double D. A double D. That's just crazy. No, they were just insanely large. And what size is your, do you mind if I ask about your penis? If you're uncomfortable, then you don't have to say anything. No, it's about eight inches. Oh, my God. I mean, when I'm fully rock hard, it's a nice eight and it's, I don't have any complaints. Oh, no, eight, eight, eight, eight. So, so this goes off personal questions about your body and things. So are you using hormones? Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be, you know, a transsexual without the hormones. I'd be, I'd be modifying his body. Right, but how fascinating that the hormones don't preclude your, your dick from working the way, the way that you like it to. That's pretty, that's like the best of both worlds. Yeah, hormones do crazy stuff. They change your pheromones, how you smell, body hair, all sorts of stuff. And, you know, if I wasn't on them, I might have big tits and a big ass, but I'd probably smell like crap all the time. Right. Well, what's your favorite position to have sex in? Well, are you switchy, toppy, bottomy? What, what kind of sex do you like to have? With women, I'll, I'll generally switch. Um, most of the time I top women because I have a built-in strap on. Right, right. So it's kind of like I'm the designated top. So it's not many girls, you know, come to my place like, look at all the strap-ons like he's in my piss. Right. So, so, um, so I'm usually the, the top, which I don't mind doing. I like having sex with cute girls. Um, you know, beautiful women, no problem there. Uh, when I'm with guys, I, I just like the bottom. You know, I'm the girl. Right. I want to feel good. You're the guy, you're supposed to throw me on the bed. Right. And fuck me hard. Yeah. You know, that's how I, that's how I feel personally. I like to top the girls and the bottoms the guys. For sure. I'm the same way. Yeah. Well, with me, with, um, with women, I'm a, I'm a top. So, Tiffany, if you and I were ever to play as Ginger, she'd be on the bottom. I would definitely be. She'd be on the bottom of us because I, I don't, I don't bottom to, I don't bottom to fems and you're really femmy. So it's like, we'd have to share a girl. Um, but I just had, I just, so do you ever, if it's horny enough or hot enough or you're turned on enough, does the idea of receiving penetration with a strap on by a woman appeal to you in any way? Cause I've had, I had a fantasy of you fucking a girl while getting fucked by, say me. I knew she was going to throw me on the bed. She's never thrown herself in there. I bet, I bet it's pretty fucking hot. It is. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean, if I'm going to get something in my butt, I might as well have it on a hot chick. I mean, if you think about it, uh, I love having sex with other TS girls. Oh, I bet that's just fucking awesome. Oh my God. Oh my God. The possibilities are so fucking endless. That's just crazy fabulous. I know. It's, it's pretty awesome. It's gotta be pretty awesome. Now we've talked about the different people that you've had sex with and the different partners that you've had and the types of sex that you like to have. What is this, for me, I'll give you an example so you know where I'm going with this. I think that probably the strangest thing I've ever had sex with is a, uh, a spoon. And that was because I was traveling. Yeah, I was really horny. I was, I was touring. I stripped for 12 years and I was in a hotel room and the shampoo bottles were too small. Um, the spoon was, I had, had room service brought up and the spoon was cold and hard and I could, it was the right curve over my clit. I totally get it. Sure, sure. And I could put it in my pussy and almost scoop my G-spot with it. Awesome. Sure, sure. So my question to you is, my weirdest thing that comes to mind that I've had sex with is a spoon. What is the weirdest thing that you've ever had sex with? Uh, to be honest, um, when I was young and during transition and that was experimenting with stuff in my butt, I was, uh, I didn't really have, I didn't have a lot of dildos, you know, and, uh, the ones I had were small and, uh, I think one time I tried to press my limits but I didn't have any way of going, uh, like any way of getting like a nice big dildo or butt plug or anything like that. So I think maybe the weirdest thing I ever used was like, uh, a can of shaving cream. Wow, that's girthy. I can see that. for steel so much as how much I could take and was more improving myself. That, yeah. That's a nice, Oh, are you a, are you a greedy butt pig then? Because a shaving cream can is, is girthy. Well, to be honest with you, I didn't start out that way but being in the industry for like three and a half years, now I can take cock like a champion. Awesome, awesome. You know what I mean? You gotta go in slow but once you're in there I can go a long time. Cool. But, yeah, that's one weird thing I use. Um, probably the weirdest I can think of off the top of my head. That's a good one. That's a good one. I've, I've actually tried, like I said, um, the shampoo bottles, the sample ones are too small but I've used regular shampoo bottles. Sure, sure. Oh, that, that I can, that, actually that's about a nice thick but not too thick. I've used the glass end. You know when you get the, I'm so weird. Uh, you get the little salt and pepper shakers that come with your, uh, with your dinner for moon shivers and they have the tape over the top so the salt and pepper doesn't come out. I've put the, the salt shaker part, the glass part in my, in my pussy and fucked myself with that. They're very tiny. Yeah, but it's just, but the first two inches and that perfect friction for the first two inches. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. You just have to be really careful the tape doesn't come off of the stuff. Yeah, yeah. You don't want your pussy to sneeze. So, uh, uh, have you had, uh, obviously you still have your penis. Do you still have your original gonads? Yeah, I mean, um, everything there. So you could, so technically you could be, you could, you could parent a child if you found someone you wanted to do that with. I don't, I don't think I can because of the hormones. Okay. The hormones screw up. Your sperm count. Um, yeah, I mean, I could try. No, you have to find someone. you know, for some girls it might not be impossible, but the odds are pretty low. Got it. Like, uh, so I don't know if I could have a kid, but I don't want kids anyway. Yay! I was just going to ask if you wanted children someday. No, I, I actually, I actually have a bumper sticker with, uh, you know, a man and a woman and like, you know, 12 kids and, and it says stop breathing at the top. Yeah, yeah, for sure. No, I, I'm, I'm, I'm the, I'm the many children. I'm, I'm the none. yeah. What is your greatest fantasy in life? Ooh. My greatest fantasy? What's your greatest fantasy? I already had my fantasy. So, I mean, I, it's just more like having fantasies again. I mean, I, you mean sexual, I'm assuming. No, no, I mean any kind of fantasy. I mean, you know, do you want to be the president someday? Do you want to, you know, I don't want that responsibility. Yeah. What, I, I have a pretty strong passion for acting and not like porn acting. Right. I like mainstream stuff and, you know, every time I, I do a porn scene where there's some acting in it, I always get excited because I like to do that portion. Yeah. And, I, you know, sometimes I, you know, get let down because I mean, porn, porn scenes generally don't have a strong story and not much acting. No, so I, so I do my acting during the scene, meaning I do my best to, to direct the scene from within it. Right. And, and make my will prevail, prevail over, over the scenes. I try that. Because with other women, with women, since you and I are tops with women, we can, I can make the scene, I can make the scene go and do and say what I want it to within her limits. Right. Because I'm, by being virtue of being, you know, the, the almost always the older of the two people in the scene, I'm the de facto authority figure. So I, so it does get to go where I want it to go. And, and since you, Tiffany, are a top, TiffanyStarXXX.com, that one R or two, by the way? Two R's. Two. TiffanyStar with two R's and three X's dot com. So, but with, with Genetic Man, it's much harder to do that because the way, not only is there no acting, there's also no lovemaking. It is a series of positions ending with him popping somewhere. It is today. Yeah. Today. Not when we started. Not when we started. No. It was a completely different industry. No, there was a party. It was a day. It was awesome. But today, it's very rare. Occasionally, if I find, like, my favorite guy to work with, it can be that. It was Shawn Michaels, 132 or three years. It's a lovely time because we have history and he's a real person. But most of the scenes I do, it's the performance of sex and within a very limited, heteronormative way. And it's not, it's not always as fun as it used to be doing porno. But no, you do have to do it. With girls, it's always as fun as it used to be because I get to do it because I'm here for the pussy like you, Tiffany. It's like, let's find the pussy. You and me both. Nothing wrong with the pussy. Oh, nothing wrong. Do you consider yourself a good actress, honey? I think I'm okay. I think I'm pretty good. I mean, maybe it's some areas rough around the edges, but honestly, I don't think I'm so bad that I need, like, a ton of, like, a ton of classes or coaching. Like, schooling. Right. The problem is that because I'm a good actress, I'm a trans, I'm limited to what I can do with my voice. Certain emotions are going to be harder to convey. So I already changed my voice, so it's, I mean, I, like, I can't scream as high-pitched as a woman in, like, a horror movie. Exactly. Well, that was exactly where I was going is because I'm producing a horror movie in the near future and it would be, I, you know, would love to audition you for it. I would love to audition for it. I mean, I could still scream. I bet. You might not have it. I mean, I could write something around you, but I think... She could be the tough lady cop. I don't know why. Whatever, whatever. Yeah, something. Even if it's a small, even if it's a small part, I don't care. I'll do it. Even if I'm just walking and getting murdered, whatever. Do you have any problem with nudity? I'm so against nudity. I know, right? You are such a delight, Tiffany. I love having you on the show. Thank you so very, very much. It's always a pleasure. Is there anything that you'd like to promote or tell your fans about that you want them to go and check out or see or any place they can come and see you? Yeah, I mean, there's my site, TiffanyStarXXX.com. I'm going to be doing YouTube videos soon, so they can find me on that. I don't have everything set up yet, so I'm not that... What's your Twitter handle? My Twitter handle is TiffanyStarXXX, but you can also find me through TFTiffanyStar. That's TiffanyStarXXX. I love your accent. I, you know... Oh, sorry. Keep going. I was just going to ask you, you have such a beautiful voice. How did you change your voice? Actually, a lot of trans women seem to have an issue with that. I don't really have an issue. It took me two weeks because when I transitioned, I was super determined to change my voice, which is one of the reasons that I'm so excited about. I think that certain things I do in acting may or may not be a little higher or deeper than others. Right. But I'm sure I can work around it. It worked for Lauren Bacall. It did. It did. I love your voice, and I think you're just absolutely wonderful. Shayla Laveau has a husky voice. It didn't hurt her any. You're right. You're right. The feminine woman like you with the husky, whiskey-slash-cigarette voice is actually a very sexy thing. Oh, cool. I don't smoke, but I can go with it. You know, just say, yeah, just say, it's all that whiskey and cigarette. Just dig in. Lauren, but husky voice worked for Lauren Bacall. You can't deny that. No, absolutely not. Well, thank you so much, Tiffany Starr. That's Tiffany Starr, two R's, triple X, and we love having you on the show. I wish you all the best, and please, do you have my number? Yes, you do. I called you. I'm not sure. If you want to DM it to me on Twitter, I'll save it. I might. I still think I have it, but just in case, because I would love to audition for that movie and just to hang out with you when I'm in L.A., because I'm booking my trip soon. I would like that very, very much. So just shoot me. I've got your number, so I'll make sure. You must have mine. Okay. I'll make sure that Stevie shoots you a text saying this is Ginger. All right. Sounds great. All right. Take care of yourself. Thank you so much for being on the show. You too. Bye. Bye, beautiful. Thank you. That's Tiffany Starr, two R's, triple X, X.com. Wasn't she on the show before? She's been on once before. I love her. Wasn't she on the show when I was a solo? Solo? I realized it. T-S-O, Tiffany Starr. Oh, the, oh, the initials. I get it. Because Sherry Mitchell, changed her name to Sherry Mitchell because of SM. Right. Duh, Tiffany Starr, T-O-S-T-I-N-G. I'm a little, I'm a little slow. You may have had her on, let me see your picture again. I always, well, I'll look it up. It was beautiful. No, she's, she's stunning. No, I looked at it earlier today. It's a little bit different because the woman I remember talking to had the boyfriend. Oh, wait a minute, T-S-Boxy. Probably, because I had the one, the one that I was talking to, I remember she. Was she in studio? No, no, she was by phone, but she was a, she had a boyfriend. And so Tiffany, and did not identify as lesbian. So I'm now confused. Must have been somebody else. Must have been somebody else. Right. Want to drop a call? Yeah, that's who I thought it was. Thank you so much. We will be right back. We have to take a quick break. I see you on the line there, sweetheart. We will be right back. In the meantime, go to the screaming O.com. That's the screaming O.com for all of your favorite sex toys. I'm going to bring up my one that I bring up all the time. The mustachio. You put it on, turn it on, goes around the back of your face, around the back of your head. 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And like what you were talking about with your wall where you can push somebody against it. I don't know. It's kind of my fantasy. Oh, no. Yeah. Being roughed up nicely. Uh-huh. Just throwing you against the wall over and over again. You're shaking your head, bouncing off the wall, and then you start giggling. You've never thrown me against your wall. I like, I like the menacing, like. Yeah. We're the same height, so we're going to have to, I won't have to. I know they're not really going to hurt me, but I like the. The threat of it. Oh, I totally get it. You can break without being afraid. Absolutely. Oh, no, that's the roller coaster versus the auto accident. Yeah. Yeah. Roller coasters rock and auto accidents suck. Yeah. Yes. Yes. It's hard to find, especially since I like more femme type women. Right. So you are someone who. It's hard to find someone who would do that. So as you go out into this world of non-traditional sexual expression, you're looking for a femme top. Yeah. That's the general category of what it is that appeals to you, as opposed to a butch top or anything. So you're looking for a femme top. Yeah. And there are women out there you're going to meet who love using their femininity to just stun people like you and me into drooling acquiescence just so they don't take the tits out of the room. We always love it when you call in. L-Sweet. Thank you so much, sweetheart. Yeah. I'm loving the show. You guys are awesome. And keep it up. Thank you so much, honey. We'll talk to you soon. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Does she have the sexiest voice or fucking whatever? I adore her. That's a woman who's 5'4 with a low sexy voice. She's only 5'4? She's a Tiffany star. You need to not worry because Elle Sweet has that. She sounds like she's 5'8 and drinks whiskey. I thought she was, yes. Right? Yes. No, no, she's not. She's our, well, I'm only 5'2. Are you 5'4? I'm 5'4. You're 5'4. Yeah. Now you've got something coming up in the near future, don't you? I do, I do. Would you share that with us? Thank you, Punkin. I get to do a plug, a shameless plug for my darling's book, Master of O, available at masterofo.com. And if you were in the Los Angeles area this Thursday, the 18th of September at 7 o'clock, I invite you to come down to the Sanctuary LAX at 10914 10914 South La Cienega Boulevard in California, LA. 904. And that is the Sanctuary, which is a fabulous place. We can go get a pro-dom or pro-sub session. So if you are, so this is where people can go in and book sessions with live models and they can book them to be either submissive or dominant. And there's a negotiation there. There's no sex involved. Although I believe you can negotiate self things if one's in the room, but there's no, you're not purchasing contact with their bodies. But you are purchasing amazing role playing from quality women who like what they do, who are capable of doing it. And so if you want to go in and have a beautiful woman spank you, the Sanctuary is the place to go. And that's this Thursday night at what time? 7 o'clock, 7 to 8.30 before the Thursday night partying really starts serious. Right. Ernest and I will be there signing books, reading out loud. Oh, that's wonderful. For the book Master of O. So if you are in Los Angeles, come down to the Sanctuary at Thursday, 7 p.m. 10914 South La Cienega, 90304 for those people who need the map thing. And come listen to us read aloud from this amazingly hot novel called Master of O. And you said I could read something. You can read, you can do anything you want, baby. I adore you. This, so the main character, Master of O, the title is Stephen and O is O. And if there's a resemblance to the original book Story of O, yes, exactly so. Takes place in modern day L.A. From the man's point of view. So O and Stephen are in his amazing dungeon and he is introducing her to the, one of the most amazing butt-centric toys ever invented, the electric butt plug. Have you ever had? I'm not familiar with the electric butt plug. Oh. I don't have one. Next time you and your man come over to, you know, shoot some footage, we will come over with your, yeah, you will, yeah. Oh. If you're an anal piggy like me, the anal butt plug, the electric butt plug is like. Hello, my life is so much better now. Okay. So they've had, they're having a hot wild affair. The sex is amazing. They're equally matched in the dedication to their respective roles. They really are fucking like bunnies. She's very orgasmic. He's very manly. It's all just very sexy. Stephen chained her to the bondage bed so tightly, the slight lift of the cushion, shaped cushion underneath her buttocks pulled her limbs taut. She felt genuinely helpless despite knowing he'd let her go. She indicated that. She said the slightest hesitation. It was her lack of hesitation that made her helpless. She needed to ride the roller coaster and she needed to ride it now. That was how O thought about it. The rides were frequently scary and not always pleasant, but they ran on tracks with no real danger. The same sensation on a freeway off ramp would have been an entirely different matter. From the large cart, Stephen took a couple of intimidating devices. There was some kind of figure eight shaped hard rubber plate with a long screw handle sticking up from the center, chained with evil clover clips dangled from across the piece near the bottom. Oh. He thought it was one of the two leading wires leading to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up to the cart leading up confusing to be tormented by someone whom she felt no attraction at all steven was a merry monster he never pretended to conceal his sadistic indulgences behind the alibi of punishment and never expected affected a stern demeanor when the physical evidence of his delight was undeniable the black rubber surgical gloves were a nice creepy touch applying the liquid silicone to her front parts in steven's usual practice manner for her smaller hole he squeezed some blue gel from a big tube on a black plug coating it thoroughly it's a salt water suspension he explained surveying the greasy obsidian bullet which makes the connection stronger leaving o to think about what that might portend he parted her lower cheeks with two fingers on which he'd also slathered the gel slowly packing her tight rear socket with the wired plug it wasn't bigger than her usual steel one but it had felt particularly invasive o knew it did tricks before turning on the box steven devoted his attention to o's chest placing the legs and plate directly on her sternum running chin to belly button and whirling the crossbar down until the chains and snaps hung directly over her nipple rings it wasn't difficult to figure out how this gizmo worked steven attached the clips to her nipple rings and twirled the ball at the top of the handle until the bar rose high enough to pull her breasts into pointed minarets her pigmented flesh under the rings feeling particularly exposed to whatever nothing hurt yet but o had no doubt that would change soon steven stretched out comfortably next to her one booted legs thrown across her chained one one hand now cranking the stretching phrase and then the ball rolled over her chest and she was in a state of shock and injury leading to injury leading to injury leading to injury injury injury injury bladder but didn't think was a good time to ask at the push of a button the control box in the cart had lit up but oh felt nothing other than the intrusive presence of the plug itself it wasn't until stephen reached over her and began slowly twisting the dials that the sensations grew more complex the warmth came first as promised followed shortly by an insistent deep surging that made her muscles clench involuntarily the sensation wasn't unpleasant at first but when stephen slowed down the frequency so the current came in discrete shocks o felt herself involuntarily jerking against the chains and when he entered the current a little oh knew she'd have betrayed all her friends in the underground in a heartbeat meanwhile stephen cranked the stretcher a bit tighter creating a different kind of throbbing in her nipples steven turned to her face even turned her face toward him with a strong hand suffering yet yes sir a little that's nice he said in a very pleasant tone before upping the current enough to make oh squeeze her eyes shut you're very beautiful like this he said gently casually masturbating at the spectacle of oath twitching helplessness she thanked him for the compliment and he kissed her as tenderly as she could ever recall smiling down into her face by then knitted with a concentration of endurance the tenderness was real beautiful woman in agony had inspired cathedrals full of art cruelty was stephen's way of expressing his affection for them and the more he cared for one the more he would hurt her looking up at his face happy the note ever seen him the ride seemed more than worth the price of admission rewarding o's docility under duress stephen tested the box to the point of the! but no plea for mercy had escaped her lips satisfied that it wouldn't he kissed her repeatedly feeling the pulsations through her whole body he stroked her hair smoothed the tense muscles of her concave belly and caressed her face would you turn to his so he could fully admire her distress would sir like to turn up to the maximum she asked with all the courage you could muster voice high and thin i'm at 75 percent now i just want to know what it feels like stephen obliged oh moaned deeply her body undulating as much as the chains would allow she shook her head rapidly from side to side but refused his offer to turn it back down you're a very good girl he whispered and good girls and good girls should be properly encouraged he brought the big vibrator down on the head of her bed from the head of the bed flipped it on and applied it carefully to where it would do the same thing he said to stephen he said to stephen he said to stephen he said to stephen the most good o's orgasms went on and on the interior pulsations triggering another wave as each passed it wasn't until she froze and let out an animal yowl that stephen finally switched off both the box and the vibrator ola trembling for several moments while he drank in the spectacle slowly releasing the tension on her rings with one hand until he could unsnap the stretching device from her rings he tossed it casually into the carpeted strip between the bed and the mirror where oh usually knelt called up and generally showed off for him releasing the chains he turned her over to remove the electrified plate she was holding her hands and her hands were shaking her legs and her legs were shaking and she was shaking her legs and her legs were shaking when he when he settled in comfortably over her small back she knew just what was coming keeping her legs open and arching her rump for ease of entry the fading tingle of the electricity made his gentle passage into her depths all the more exquisite all through what followed he played with her hair and whispered praise in her ear even as his pounding grew more relentless until she felt the inevitable surge of liquid heat deep inside my just throbbed oh my god this is so well written so sexy i will bring you the next one i'm going to bring you the next one i'm going to bring i will bring you a copy next week and strive please i would love an autographed copy i would absolutely love that um wow what a great story and i've had we have a those boxes are like 800 we have one the aerosteck we have yes and the brand aerosteck is a great brand from the pleasure test yeah yes that's what i have and i what i bought was the one those don't work so well because the put oh my god for me for you you work for me you work for me you work for me you work for you i can have a half an hour orgasm we did it on when i was allowed to sorry one of those yeah no no yeah you yeah we know we love you don't understand we need you in the world girls who can have half hour orgasm no i love it i love it because you're every evil scientist needs a need to need the subject and he's like lay down miss lynn i want to try something on you it went to the point where i would cry it felt so good and so many and it was this non-stop trickle combined with the the orgasm and the pulsation and and the way it tightened your and what we bought with it which i've never used and forgot i had until you just read the story from master of oh is there's a device that goes over the the dildo right and it's got a circle that goes over the dildo the shield for the clip and then there's a shield and then there's another one for your ass so i have the ass it you can use them both at the same time that'd be crazy i've only ever used the anal one but we tried the one for me and the and the what makes electrical things spark is when the contact from the skin is separated from the metal that's why neon that's why you know when you use it when you use a violent wand you know it doesn't do anything but you pull it off it goes zap zap zap it has to create the has to create the right complete the circuit so for my if if i move and one for even a second the wall of my vagina disengages from touching the the metal i get i get an arc and in my that so my ass which is with just the ring and so it's it's a better con for me how big is the the anal one um very really thick but the part that you're in your anus once it goes in then the anus part is a half an inch okay so you've got mine's mine's uh red bull size that's the skinny part of it in the ass that's the whole thing the whole thing is the same size oh yeah that's the whole thing the whole thing is the same size oh yeah that's the whole thing the whole thing is the same size oh the whole thing is the same size oh sweetheart you need to come over and sweetheart you need to come over and we need to get your man over with that we need to get your man over with that camera and shoot some more footage because you're gonna camera and shoot some more footage because you're gonna love ours because it's cray why i love it and we know we do have we do have an electrified um probe um that does not work well for me personally but i would never use it on somebody else if they asked me to please i would never do that please what kind of world do you think i am oh no keep pouting now is um so is uh who is the keeper of the calendar you or your man okay so we will you and i will schedule a shooting thing at some point i guess um we haven't been over in months so we probably have to do it either um probably take a weekend day because it's only the only time friday's for you i made the maids there friday sucks for us yeah exactly or otherwise friday would be it but yeah no well you know weekends are really good because my house is on the market right now and i have to be out of it we have open houses every weekend oh wow um from 2 5 saturday and sunday every weekend i have to be out of the house so okay cool you and i will schedule you and i will let's talk tomorrow and see we can hook up in the meantime i want everyone to go to the sanctuary this thursday night yes sanctuary lax thursday september 18 from 7 to 8 30 um 10914 south la cienega boulevard and you can also go on the google and look for a sanctuary lax and that will tell you the um so i'll be reading from the book i'm going to actually go home and go to the library and um and and and and do what and uh get me an autograph copy yes and also no and also highlight that passage because that's a nice that took about eight minutes uh yes you could have slowed down a little you're a little nervous in the beginning yeah um you could make that 10 minutes that could easily be a 10 minute one because yeah but once you got when you started you were a little fast and then you got into it you know what i'm still embarrassed of the sensuality of the words are you really you know so i just um because i'm still i'm not used to seducing people with my voice i'm not used to seducing people with my voice i'm not used to seducing people with my voice you're so good at it though and these are things that you've done and you are probably i'm going to guess you're oh i'm not you know i'm not i'm a different oh is a composite of several real people certainly um the the iron discipline and the the relentless masochism is not quite me um actually i am imbued more of another character okay well when i get to a copy of the book the book is master of where can we get it you can go to masterofo.com go figure masterofo.com there is the book nina thank you so much for co-hosting with me every monday i love you i absolutely adore you and i love being with you and i thank you sparky we love you thank you thank you thank you for being here it's always good to have you stevie you're the best and you especially listening thank you so very much come back tomorrow and uh we'll have more fun for you here on playman on ginger thank you do do We'll see you next time. 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