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Nor would I want anyone to do that on me.
Nor would I want to do that to someone else.
I wouldn't want to torture someone in that way.
That's torture.
Yeah.
I was.
Messy cleanup.
We were fucked up when we were kids, though.
I remember we made this little girl eat her shit.
We bullied her and made her eat her shit.
We were seven years old.
We were bad.
What did you...
How did you convince her?
We put some salt and pepper on it.
We made her dig it out of the toilet.
It was like a little Mr. Hankey.
And this was a dare?
Yeah, it was like a solid turd.
We told her that we'll let her into our group.
We had our little badass seven-year-old group.
Middle school?
We were seven years old.
Middle school kids are so mean.
We weren't even middle school.
We were elementary.
Oh, yeah.
We were fucking bullied and people making her eat shit.
Kindergarteners are even mean nowadays, too.
I know.
They're even worse now.
Not wanting to take naps next to each other or sharing their crayons.
I know.
That's where it all starts.
I guess we should have felt bad because she ended up being sick for about three days.
Yeah, no kidding.
We didn't know.
We didn't tell her to digest it, motherfucker.
Just taste it.
Just taste it.
Yeah.
We put salt and pepper on it.
And she actually just took it down like a boss.
Like half of it.
And it was all over her mouth and shit and her breast.
It smelled all shitty.
Yeah.
That's not cool.
Let's see.
Another thing that I used to do when I was a kid, I used to like to fuck the edge of the wall.
Like, I'm looking.
I'm looking like at the edge of this wall right here.
And I'm like, that looks kind of tasty right now.
But it was like.
You mean like humping it, right?
No, like I would pull down my pants and spread my little coochie lips.
And it felt good.
Did you get off that way?
I got off.
I don't know what was coming out.
But I know like, you know, you get that little, you know how it feels when you're having an orgasm.
Yeah, like that.
But, you know, I was too young to be having an orgasm.
I mean, I was starting.
I mean, if I was a guy, I'd be real bad.
I'd be like poking holes in beds and putting Vaseline in there.
Like, I'd be all creative.
So as a girl, I was like, I was pretty fucked up.
So I thought I was pretty badass as far as like, you know, experiment with the sexuality.
Then, you know, as time, you get older and time goes on and shit just gets more crazy.
Motherfuckers are like shitting and pissing on each other.
And, you know, like that two girls, one cup shit like that, you know.
Yeah.
No, that's just gross.
I had some pretty sexy times, but not that damn sexy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would never.
I wasn't even thinking about.
I don't know.
I don't really have many memories of my younger sexual like thoughts or actions.
Really.
I think it'll come to me.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
You probably just mentally block it out.
Yeah.
I just don't remember.
Yeah.
And it was probably because it was very strict household for me.
So I was never in like a I was never exposed to sex in such a crazy way.
How kids nowadays experience it.
Like, I always tell people.
I was thinking about shaving my legs and doing my eyebrows when I was in eighth grade.
Now, having sex in the school.
Oh, yeah.
I'm in eighth grade under the bleachers and shit.
Like one.
Yeah.
Some one of my husband's friends told us that like they somebody took a video of the 16 year old girl getting anal, getting anal from some 16 year old boy under the bleachers.
That's ridiculous.
You're fucking in the ass at 16.
That's ridiculous.
I wouldn't even like my ass was way off limits at 60.
I wouldn't even think of it.
I wouldn't even think about my ass like exit only motherfucker.
Yeah.
Yes.
Definitely.
Yeah.
No, it's it's kids these days.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's too much sexist sex going on.
Now it's way too.
Yeah.
It's way too accepted.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
But I guess like this show brings up a lot of like my childhood past because I think about a lot of shit and I'm like, damn, I was really fucked up, you know, then always worked in the sex industry to like either, you know, being a.
Exotic dancer or, you know, phone sex operator.
What was the craziest?
How would you say the craziest flirt that a guy gave you when you were working?
The craziest sex flirt?
Yeah.
Like the weirdest.
Like, I don't want to talk to you, but it's my job right now.
Um, or was that all the time?
It was pretty much all the time.
Like some of it, like some today, some days I was just like, you know what?
I really don't feel like talking about this shit today.
Like I really can't get into it.
But, um, there was this one really crazy guy.
Like I remember I was really tired and I wanted to get off and they made me work like about another hour or so because they couldn't, um, I guess they were short staffed and I really wanted to get off the phone.
And this guy, he was like really creepy.
He kind of sounded like, um, kind of reminded me of like a killer, like some kind of cool.
Yeah.
Like, and you're supposed to keep them on until they can't.
Right.
Yeah.
And he, he wanted me to be like.
Yeah.
Like he wanted me to be like, like he was had me like, like, um, bond bondage or something like, you know, he wouldn't let me off the phone.
And it was, it was really weird.
Cause he kind of got in my head a little bit.
Plus I was a little bit tired too.
And he was just like saying, you say you are my master.
And I was like, I don't feel like doing this shit right now.
I really want to curse you the fuck out, but I know I'll get fired.
You know, it's like you, I mean, you know, it's kind of fun at the time, but that's, that particular time I really just didn't.
And it was just, it just really creeped me out.
Yeah.
Like the shit that he was saying, you know, he was like, you know, he was just like very being really, really creepy.
Like it was like, I was talking to Richard Ramirez or somebody.
That's creepy.
Yeah.
It was, it was fucked up.
So, yeah.
But, um, yeah.
So, um, any other crazy stories or anything?
Um, let's see.
So.
Yeah.
Um, we got Richard Elfman.
Should be calling in pretty soon.
And, um, I guess I'm gonna take a little break here and see if Dr. Lamore is around the corner.
She's okay.
Great.
All right.
So Dr. Lamore is coming in.
So I'm going to take a little break here and when we come back, Dr. Lamore from sex and deputy will be joining me.
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Whipping the nightmares to a froth.
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A dust of past fortunes squandered The empire of lies to whom you pandered Suffer a self-imposed exile For bitter fruits of denial In the presence of greatness The humble can only vow To be a man To be a man A dust of past fortunes A day of mortal lies A love nothing but deprivation A dust of past fortunes A day of mortal lies Caught in eternal winter Tell me a lie with the best of intentions A dust of past fortunes Mute in the age of mass communication A dust of past fortunes Talked easily to darker nights Frozen out of time In ties for blessed ego The ones might in length know Who opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened opened lot to touch on so Jenny and I were just having a conversation before the break that we were talking about different fetishes I just did a little segment with Jimmy cabs okay and remember I was telling you that I want to talk about like different fetishes and things like yes these are disgusting fetishes that I want to talk about yeah I don't know if you know about my show but I like to talk about one of the main subjects I'd like to talk about is necrophilia yes yeah like I was telling Jimmy cabs how I got started on that how that just totally blew my mind was my father used to be a mortician and I asked him one day you know have you ever like rent you know walked in on someone having sex with the dead person yes and he told me that he knew a mortician that used to do that I used to do that have you ever had a client who was a sex addict and you know I'm not saying that I'm not saying that um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um to choose either, you know, occupations or things to do in general, even habits that, you know, or hobbies that we kind of drawn to, obviously.
And if someone is a mortician, it's most likely, you know, they're going to be fascinated with something that has to do with it.
Isn't it like when you're dead, I heard that, you know, you lose that luster, like you don't have that.
It's true, you don't.
But I don't know, like I've read, like the reason why certain people have this, they want to do this is because a lot of them can't get live women or men or whatever.
So they go to the dead because they can't break away.
They can't say stop.
Right.
Yeah.
And also because, you know, there's no rejection in this matter and a lot of other things.
But I tend to think that, and we can talk about fetishism in general, I tend to think that, and this one in particular, that it has to be.
It has to be more than the fact that you hate rejection and you hate confrontation or whatever, because it's really, it's really intense.
I mean, to really have sex with a dead body.
Yeah.
I don't know if you, have you seen a dead body?
Have you, have you been in the presence of, well, because of your father.
Yeah.
Of course.
So, and I, when I went to medical school, we had to dissect some.
So it's really, it's a terrible thing.
Yeah.
You know, it's, I was, I'm, it's like, I'm not going to do it.
Yeah.
It's really, it's so terrible, you know, just to be in the presence of, for someone that really has no connection to that, you know, it's kind of bad.
And so if you are actually going to go into a whole session with a dead body, it has to be really fascinating to you more than the lack of ability to interact.
But I do believe that people that are mostly, you know, that, that go through the whole medical system and, and really went through the whole educational.
Yeah.
And then they choose to practice with dead bodies rather than anything else has to be a fascination with, with that.
I mean, more than just the, you know, rejection factor.
Right.
I would think so more because I've even read that women do it.
I would think that, okay, men, yeah, I understand that.
Right.
But women should, are able to pretty much get anybody, fuck anybody they want to.
That is very true.
I mean, just the fact that you have a vagina.
Yeah.
Kind of requires, yeah.
You know, I mean, some men might have to be drunk.
To fuck certain women, but you know, you can get dick.
It's very easy.
And it's correct.
It's true.
Well, it is, again, going back to the fact that you mentioned that there are women that do that.
It's, it's, it is less common, you know, as like in any other fetishism, you know, the, the, the majority of fetishists are men.
Right.
And, you know, whether it is very intense ones or, or, you know, more softer ones, you know, more intense ones, but it's still more intense for men and the majority is men and everything.
I think that, yeah, I think that your example is very prime, that if a woman does that, it has to do with some sort of.
Something mental.
Yeah.
No, for sure.
Yeah.
For sure.
Yeah, definitely.
So we were also talking to, like, when I was a kid, I used to have this obsession with, it's called right here.
I've looked it up.
It's called, called agamatophilia.
Okay.
It's like having sex with dogs.
Yeah.
I used to have.
I used to have.
Those are lovely.
I had this life-size doll when I was a kid.
Yeah.
And I used to, you know, I used to.
Was that a female doll?
It was a female doll.
Yeah.
She kind of, I mean, looked like me, but obviously she was cuter.
Oh, please.
She was about three feet tall.
She wasn't.
And I used to have sex with this doll.
I mean, panties off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I was obsessed.
I was obsessed with this doll.
I used to fuck this doll all the time.
So would you, like, hump her?
Hump her without any, sometimes with clothes on, dry hump her.
But most of the time, my underwear was off.
And I was telling, like, I remember telling my audience once that I got caught one night by my dad.
Oh, my God.
And he's like, what is she doing?
He came in to tuck me in.
And I was, like, humping my doll.
I had my panties down.
And so he, like, walked in the room.
So I jumped off my doll real quick and I didn't have time to pull my panties up.
So he pulls the covers back and he sees this little brown ass.
Yeah.
Ass all up in it.
That is priceless.
Yeah.
That is priceless.
He was like, Monique, because that's what I go by out here.
He goes, Monique, you better not ever let me see you doing that again.
What are you doing?
But you, of course, kept on doing it.
I did keep on doing it.
Yes.
And I also had obsessions with, like, objects.
Like, I used to fuck the, you know, the other, the edge of the broom.
Yeah.
Though, actually, we had a hokey.
You know what a hokey is.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah.
Yeah.
What I used to do is adjust it.
I used to lay my little ass up on it.
And I had, like, all kinds of sexual, like.
Well, it's very common for kids to do, for females especially.
So I was wondering, is something wrong with me?
No.
Because now look at me now.
No.
You're wonderful.
You're perfect.
No, the thing is, this is what it is.
In terms of fetishism, and that goes back to Alfred Binet.
They actually kind of, you know, decided on how to define it and everything.
But he said that fetishism is something that really, you know, the name of it, the definition of it is kind of very vast because everybody has an obsession with something.
Now, whether it is troublesome to your life and kind of harmful, then it might turn into what in the DSM they call paraphilia, which is then, you know, sort of a mental condition that you deal with.
And you, you're.
You're fully occupied with and kind of harms your life and harms your relationships or, or your occupation or whatever you do in your daily, daily life.
But in terms of fetishism, most people are kind of inclined to deal with something more preferably or less preferably.
And he said he actually, he put it into kind of terminology that was very easy to relate to.
And he said that most people have what, what he called spiritual love, which is the being drawn to.
And so, you know, you can be drawn to someone, whether for their occupation, for something that they look like, for their position or something like that.
And then there's plastic love.
And plastic love really kind of covers everything, whether it is body parts or objects, shoes, I don't know, whatever, whatever it is.
He actually even defined it even more accurately.
And he said that if, if you're fascinated with a certain body part, and I know a lot of boob men.
Right.
Boobs and yeah, ass.
Or ass or foot or, you know, foot binding.
It's based on that.
But the whole idea is, so if it is something that has to do with a body part, he called it partialism.
Okay.
And that was his definition.
But in general, if it's not troublesome to your life, and these days, honestly, there are so many forums and so many places you can go and kind of practice your fetishism.
Right.
Calmly and, and, you know, accepted in an accepted way and everything.
So if it doesn't really bother your life, it's not even a paraphilia and you shouldn't be really concerned with it.
You know, so yeah, so there's absolutely nothing wrong with you.
Because I was saying too, that I was a little lesbian up until like, I had sex for the first time when I was 17.
That's even late.
Because I experimented very young with women.
Let's say I was molested.
Okay.
By women, you know, babysitters.
Very young.
Very young.
Yeah.
So like under 10.
Way like, Like a toddler kind of.
Six.
Six.
And maybe younger than me.
Four.
Four years old.
Yeah.
That's kind of a toddler.
By other women.
So yeah.
So, but in regards to your, I don't know if I, if I may call it bisexuality, most women are, you know, when it comes to women, most women, female sexuality is fluid.
And so on that note, it's innate.
Most women are innately and naturally bisexual, whether they are, you know, acting on it or not.
Right.
That's a different story.
And most of them are kind of intimidated or even confused.
You know, if you may see someone who is attractive and you kind of feel, oh, well, this is doesn't, this doesn't fall into the format that I'm used to.
I'm aroused by dick, you know?
So what happened?
I think I'm aroused by both now.
Yes.
Nobody makes sense because most women are.
And because you're an open woman and you, you know, you're, you're not narrow minded, you don't feel the need to kind of, you know, push it away.
But most women are.
Not the same for men.
Right.
Men are not.
And so, but as I said, you know, most fetishists are men just because, and this is another part of these theories that have to do with fetishism.
They found that men have the tendency to connect certain objects to an activity.
That means that if for someone, and I'm taking like for your example, your example, if someone, for someone, the blanket or a doll or something like that was a source of masturbation.
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Oh.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Because women can get aroused no matter what.
I mean, I always say that men are much easier in getting an erection, but it's much easier for them to lose it.
Okay.
Any sort of disturbance can kill it for men.
Wow.
This is really deep.
So we're going to get back into the deepness of sex.
But I didn't have a chance to tell you, but Richard Elfman is going to be calling in.
And he's the founder of Mystic Nice and Oingo Boingo.
He's on hold right now.
So we're going to go to break and then come back with to Richard Elfman right after this.
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He gets me What you see is what you get So motherfuckers will sue me On the wrong side of the train On the wrong side of the train And when you're in fucking Brooklyn You best watch your back Alright, ladies and gentlemen and boys and girls, we are back from our break and this is Delia's Dark Side and also if you want to call in, the number is 800-893-9562 and we got the very infamous Mr. Richard Elfman on the line Why hello, Delia's Dark Side Hey Richard, how are you?
This is Elfo's Red Side I was listening to a little bit of the show Quite fascinating, young lady Thank you Thank you, thank you Yeah, I didn't know if you knew my show touches a lot on necrophilia and different fetishes and stuff, so yeah I'm glad you like it Yeah So we got Richard Elfman on the phone right now He is the founder of Mystic Nights and Oingo Boingo and he's a good friend of ours, we hang out and party sometimes when we go see Dead Man's Party, right?
That's right, I love that band Yeah, I know you do and have a good time We always have a good time when we're hanging out with you By the way, we've got a joint show that I'm doing with Dead Man's Party for everyone in Southern California at the Frida Theater in Santa Ana Friday night, 11pm April 18th that we're going to screen Forbidden Zone and a group form from the Rocky Horror Show is doing a live shadow cast I'll be in the shadow cast playing the devil Oh cool and the Mature, the same roles I do in the film well actually, my brother does and Dead Man's Party is going to open the show with a concert Yeah, I was going to ask you about that actually because I was on the Facebook this morning and I saw that, yeah, that's awesome Yeah, so it's going to be a lot of fun and then we're going to hang out after and everyone's going to get drunk and party Oh well, you know, we'll be there I think we were actually, my husband was telling me that he wanted to, you know, go to that I think, so I think we're going to try to make that Yeah, so anybody with an Oingo Boingo fetish Yeah That's everybody Well, I do have a fetish for redheads I just have to let you know Oh, that's a Clownia is what you call it Yeah I want to be ravaged by a degenerate clown by Richard Elfman Awesome, yep, that's true Although, it's I always wear devil horns on Halloween and, you know, I do other things with them, you know I mean, I'm Jewish, so I can get away with this like one year, I wore the devil horns with a Jewish Yarmulke What are you?
And I said, a lawyer Brilliant Anyway, they ask me like, you know when do the horns come off and I say like, yeah, some of the horns come off and I say like, yeah, some of the horns come off and I'll usually knock them off around in the throes of passion Yeah, I remember I met you actually, you had the devil's horn at one DMP show, I think at the Galaxy Oh, it must have been a Halloween show Yeah, it was a Halloween show That's the one where you picked me up and you were like, grabbing my boob Uh-oh No, you didn't mean to, but it would kind of just like happen that way, you like picked me up Yeah, I didn't mean to No, no Yeah I want to give a shout out to Miss Anastasia Dimon Is she there?
She's in the other, well, I can get her No, it's okay, no, I just wanted to say hello That's okay There's a shout out to the lovely, vivacious Anastasia Dimon Let me give you her for a moment Okay Hello Hi, Miss Gorgeous Dimon, how are you?
Hi, good, how are you?
Good, good Just having an awesome time with your fiance there Well, don't have too good a time or I'm bound to get jealous Oh, I know Well, we can all go join in together, you know Okay, thanks so much No problem I'm going to give him back, he looks anxious Okay Okay, thanks, bye Bye Oh, still my beating number I love it So tell us a little bit about Forbidden Zone 2 Oh, nothing much except original music by Danny Elfman Cool Jenna Elfman who along with my son, Bodie Elfman She's a former professional dancer, but I mean big time Right She danced on the Academy Awards She danced for Twyla Tharp, for Debbie Allen So she's going to do this aerial ballet a comedic aerial ballet, the ballet of the chicken Oh, okay And choreographed by Cirque du Soleil Okay And then she's also going to play a school teacher but as kind of a Rocky-esque frankenfurter She's going to play it as a male tranny with her voice pitched down And Danny's writing her some music The question is whose voice will really be coming through her lips when she sings Oh, cool Yeah, yeah, and yours truly I'm going to play like a degenerate circus geek Of course I love that And when I bite the head off my daughter's pet chicken things go south from there, let me tell you Kind of an Aussie thing Oh, that's my pet chicken And the chicken's going, help me, help me I don't want to die And Ma says, but we gotta eat, daughter And don't worry, your pa's a pro at this So, you know, it's a very poignant film Love it I love psychotic clowns, too So I can't wait to see this Yeah, and there'll be lots of music By the way, everybody, go to ForbiddenZone2.com And you can see all kinds of videos that we've done And some preview music for the film And we're doing a fundraiser ForbiddenZone2.com Is that the one on the 18th?
No, no, no, no, that's the That's the site we have with the fundraiser Oh, Indiegogo Oh, Indiegogo But it's got all these hot, wild videos Although they might be too sexy for some people So I don't know if I recommend it for everybody If they're my fans that are going there, I'm going to go I don't know, probably not It'd be right up their alley Also, we've got Princess Polly Okay, let me tell you about Princess Polly Okay She's 17, she's petulant She has a boner-causing body But a monster head And she can only get off If she basically almost kills the guy That's perfect She's really just a poor girl looking for love Even if she has to kill him after she's dead She fucks him Oh, so she's a necrophiliac too, awesome Yeah No, no, no, she just likes to almost kill Although she kills him by accident sometimes Oh, okay Just for fun That sounds Yeah, she ties him down and stuffs their throat full of Viagra Oh, fuck Just to maintain their boner when she kills them Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, poor little Stinky That's a, Petunia's the one who lost the chicken She's a Kind of a lumbering Describer is like a Ozark Daisy May Barefoot Teenage slut And her little brother Stinky gets busted in class For masturbating Awesome And he's sent to Dr. Yodelbean's office Where he's getting testicular shock therapy For sex aversion treatment And he inadvertently kills the doctor Gets chased into the forbidden zone And captured by the princess And made a little bit of a show And a love slave And the first episode When she ravages him It's so bad He swears he'll never jerk off again Oh, God Oh, my God That sounds like it's totally up my alley I cannot wait for this I've got to see this You know, and there's going to be like tons of music Awesome And it's all going to be from Danny Elfman?
Yeah, there'll be original Danny Elfman music Okay Kind of similar formula to Forbidden Zone And then I go through thousands of old classics Okay To find stuff so catchy That you'll never get it out of your head Oh, wow I can't wait Sounds great So anyway Anyone in Southern California Please come to the Frida Cinema Friday, April 18th At 11 p.m.
For a concert by Dead Man's Party Then a Forbidden Zone live shadowcast I'll be there getting drunk And I'll be there getting drunk And signing stuff afterwards And I want everybody to go to ForbiddenZone2.com To see the latest hot videos ForbiddenZone2.com Awesome Yeah I watched a little bit of the trailer from Forbidden Zone, the original This morning and I was Pretty intrigued actually, so Oh, cool Yeah Yeah, go ahead It stood the test of time Yeah Like our little Energizer bunny Yeah, I gotta sit and watch the whole movie And then get into Forbidden Zone 2 This sounds just fucking amazing So Yeah, although The Energizer bunny better not come by Forbidden Zone 2 Cause Papa Joop the geek Might bite its head off He's biting heads and everything Love it Yeah Awesome So that is Richard Elfman everybody Thank you so much I know you had a lot to do today And I just thank you so much for taking the time out To call Delia's Dark Side and hang with us For a little bit And make us laugh And I'll see you at the show Friday, April 18th, Delia Yeah, yeah, absolutely Hey, big hug to everybody Thanks so much Thank you, bye Richard Bye That was so cool It was Yeah It was It was very Ozzy Osbourne of him Yeah To bite the chicken's head I know, I know Wow Yeah, so We were talking Yeah, go ahead So, yeah So we were talking about the fetishes Different fetishes and stuff Yeah Now I wanna talk about I did a show a couple weeks ago actually And I was talking about swingers Yes And things like that Yeah Is it bad that I want to be a swinger, damn it?
I wanna be a swinger Let me swing, damn it Yeah, well You know It depends who you're asking Because if you're asking the sex therapist Right As a professional Unfortunately, I didn't come across many success stories When it comes to swinging And the mere reason is Not for the sake of You know, the lack of enjoyment in sexual activity Of course, you know If you come as a couple That is not necessarily practicing coupledom But you come as two people They wanna share that experience Right Even friends hanging out Then perfect That's excellent You can explore and be sexual And be and enjoy it But in a situation where you come as a couple That shares, I don't know A relationship, a home Kids, whatever Right There's always, always I didn't personally come across a situation Where there's always one more interesting than the other And that always creates a problem Because the initiator Is the one that is more interested And the other one is kind of dragging along Right Now the one that is dragging along Could end up in two situations One that he's gonna just play along And enjoy it And maybe enjoy it too much To the extent that He's gonna be the one that will Carry on a relationship Behind the back Yeah, and just, you know Carry an affair or something Or it's gonna turn into a jealous ride That nobody comes out, you know, healthy And it's always a problem I suggest that if you do wanna engage in swinging It should be really in a situation Where you're not in an emotional relationship Because that usually is just, you know It's just the nature of the beast Jealousy is a healthy component of a relationship Right And usually causes problems I have a story about that actually This is a long time ago I wanted to experience my first threesome Yeah So I was friends with this girl Who was like very, very sexual Like, you know, like way out there Yeah And there was a guy that she was dating And he was, you know, open to like doing a threesome So, you know, we went out and had fun, whatever Came back We were in the act of, you know, having sex Yes And he was paying a lot of attention to me And she got upset She got upset because he kissed me on the lips And they had a fight They had a rule that no kissing on the lips Well, they weren't really boyfriend and girlfriend They were kind of just fucking And she, okay, her ex-occupation She used to be a hooker Okay Okay, so So to her, kissing on the lips Is like It's a big deal Yeah So she went back and told a friend of ours That, you know, she was like really bothered By the fact that when we were having sex The guy like pulled me by my hair And kissed me on the lips or something Right And she got really bothered She got really freaked out by that Yeah And so she didn't want to see him again And I thought that was weird Because I'm like, you're supposed to be like The big freak here, you know Like nothing really phases you Not at all You're very right in your perspective But I have to say That this is the confusing factor Because, and that applies to women In the sex industry And other factors, you know Like, I don't know, in porn Or other forms of sex for money in exchange Usually And I don't want to generalize But usually a lot of times Usually a lot of these women Come to be occupied in this field Because of some lacking Or because of abuse And other factors that you kind of calculate Into the picture Right And then once you are out of that zone For instance, if you practice your own Self-gratification Not in front of a camera Or not in a, you know On a stage Or not on film Then you tend to be the complete opposite Right Maybe this little Right Shy girl Or maybe someone that Will not engage in anything extreme Even to the extent of oral sex Not to mention anal sex But for her The fact that he was affectionate with you And kissing on the lips means affection Was bothersome And she couldn't deal with it And you know, the factor of the freak Is only applicable for her When she engages in sex for money And you know, in exchange But not on her private time You see?
I get it That was the difference Yeah, it really threw me When she got jealous But whatever Yeah, yeah Well, because you, you know Just went into the experience Just, you know, playing and experiencing Which is healthy and normal But the fact and you obviously, you know It's very important that you mentioned That she used to hook But you know, yeah I mean, if you do that Then you have to factor it in I mean, yeah She's not just a regular woman, you know Experimenting And also, you know I mean, I think that's a good point That you're not just a regular woman You know, experimenting And also, you know I think that's a good point That you're not just a regular woman You know, experimenting And also, you know That could happen too Because some couples Or even fucking couples Just a couple that has like activities going on There's still some emotion there There's still some emotion to begin with And also, there are always some rules to that equation You know Yeah No, you can't touch his penis here You know Like I've been with like couples Yeah Myself And I remember, you know Like no, don't touch this Don't touch that It's like You have like a set of rules Yeah You know How can you enjoy it?
It's really redundant Like we're just fucking Like no, you don't Like all the time Yeah Like you're just like You know You're just like You know All these goddamn ground rules Yeah Yeah Let me just check the rules Yeah And like I was like My husband and I We had another similar situation Well, not He didn't really enjoy He didn't really get involved with it Right But there was a girl I had a Memorial Day party a while back And there was a girl Actually, when you were saying like Some girls are like quiet or whatever They're like closet freaks or whatever Yeah This girl was a closet freak Because outside she was like Oh, I would never do that I would never be with another girl And I was like Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now Because now He's like got his glass of wine or whatever.
He was like, oh, yeah.
He's like, I want you guys to kiss.
So he like grabbed both of our faces and just like put them together and made us kiss.
But he did not get involved.
He just wanted we just watched.
Just wanted to watch.
Yeah.
So he watched me scissor the fuck out of her.
Lovely.
But yeah, yeah.
I mean, it happens a lot.
A lot of women have.
And that also it's the same.
It's just the other side of the same equation.
The women that are very demure and very coy, you know, outside.
And then you put them in a situation.
They become ravenous and they become like insane and they want to like kill.
Yeah.
And that happens, too.
But the ones that actually, you know, play the role of the sex goddess or someone that is like so out there and does everything.
Then in their private time and I happen to interview porn stars for that matter.
And almost all of them said that they prefer that, you know, the.
The missionary position in their private life.
I don't like to do any of these things.
I have something that I want to reveal since you said that.
Yeah.
I was going to wait a while.
But I actually participated in some porn films.
OK.
OK.
Yeah.
So.
So, yeah.
So, you know, I when I when I interviewed them, all of them were, you know, in their private lives were very normal.
You would say none of them were interested in such wild.
You know, it's it's it's a tasking thing because when they were working.
You know, it was one thing.
And I'm sure you can relate even if you did little, you know, because you still feel.
Is 40 a little.
Yeah.
You know.
Considering how pleasant it is.
It's a little.
But yeah, you know, you know that in your private time with your husband, for instance, sometimes you just want to have, you know, like a pleasant time.
You don't necessarily want to go crazy and do all these things.
Right.
Most of them just claim that they like, you know, the missionary position.
And they're not in love with, you know, with threesomes and foursomes and gangbanging.
They're not necessarily into that.
No.
Yeah.
Or DP or anything like that.
Right.
Because, you know, you see it on film and you're like, oh, yeah, fuck.
Yeah.
I'm dating this woman.
I'm going to DP all over the place.
And it's like you come across the woman doesn't want to suck your dick.
Yeah.
You know, have another guy fuck her.
Yeah.
So it's like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's controversial.
So, yeah.
I just opened up on the dark side.
Yeah.
I was going to say that.
So this is a perfect time to open that up.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I did about like 40 movies, but it was like not with a whole bunch of guys.
I was dating this one guy.
I don't know if you heard of him.
He was in the industry.
Yeah.
Mm hmm.
So his name was Devil and Weed.
I'm sure I'm familiar.
Yeah.
Maybe face wise.
Yeah.
He's in a black porn star.
Yeah.
Most of the like the black stuff.
But he did most of the black stuff.
No, he did.
He crossed over to.
He crossed over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just before I was about to cross over, I got out of it because I got freaked out because this guy wanted me to do an anal scene.
Right.
With the guy.
I don't know if you heard of Byron Long.
Sounds familiar.
He's a black guy and he's got like about 13 inches of dick.
How the fuck do you expect to put that in somebody's ass?
No.
You cannot.
Any ass.
You know, let alone a vagina.
Yeah.
You know, the baby comes out of it.
But your ass.
I mean, your poor ass.
Like, no, I shit less than that fucking 13 inches.
No.
How the fuck?
And then the guy didn't want to pay me.
Wanted to pay me like only like $800 or something.
Yeah.
Like when I know most girls.
That's the sad part.
It's not that compensating.
You know, to begin with.
Yeah.
No.
And then I know most girls get at least $1,500 or something like that.
For I was like, you know.
Depends on if you're on contract.
Yeah.
There are many factors to it.
Yeah.
And it's like, you know, you know, no, first of all, that's not going in my ass.
No.
And if you even expect that, you're going to have to fucking like numb my ass up.
Pay me some extra money.
And you know, completely sedate you.
Or I'm out of here.
Yeah.
I was like, that's when I thought.
And then my agent at the time, he really like kind of stabbed me in the back.
Wow.
Yeah.
He kind of cut my throat.
So I fired him and I was just like, you know what?
I'm done.
I don't like that cutthroat bullshit, dude.
I'm pretty much like down to earth and, you know, I laid it down on the table and that's it.
You know.
Because you're different than the average talent.
Yeah.
I'm close to them.
So I was like, okay, well, I know how fucking, how shifty motherfuckers are.
No, you were right to get out of it on time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's plus I know that they just use a lot of the women.
Of course.
Until they can't use you anymore.
It's a lot of abuse.
It's a lot of abuse.
You have very short shelf life mostly.
A lot of them do go into directing and, you know, taking part in production and stuff.
Yeah.
But it's still, it's a very tasking, very painful physically and emotionally field for women especially.
Yeah.
And I know they just want to like use the pussy up till it's like fucking just like dripping and like hanging the lips.
Like hanging down to the floor.
Like no.
Yeah.
It's like sad.
I still want my pussy to smile so.
Right.
It's such a beautiful smile.
It's an abuse to your body.
Yeah.
Yes.
I agree.
So is there a difference between being polyamorous and being a swinger?
Yes.
Definitely.
What's the difference?
The difference is.
And I had a whole show about that.
I had a whole show about the polyamorous world and I had a guy practices polyamory.
The thing is this because swinging is based on the sexual experience.
So most people that go into swinging are obviously interested in the sexual experience and this is how I term it to make it very clear.
Usually the sexual experience comes first and then maybe a friendship.
When it comes to polyamory, you are friends and you can have other friends and you can have people that you like.
Yeah.
And you can have other friends and you can have people that you don't necessarily have sex with or just partial sex or whatever you call it.
But the sexual part is really not the intense part because in a triad or you know even a bigger situation when you have other factors, other people involved in this relationship.
Not everybody is having sex with everybody.
Some people are just viewers.
Some people are just friendly.
Some people.
And usually there are two people that are the main couple.
And others that practice.
Others that practice you know like a secondary part.
So just to make clear when you are in a polyamorous relationship, you have relationships with a few people and that depends on how many you want to involve in this and what are your rules.
But the sex part is trivial.
It can be and it can be not and it can be not intense and it can be not all the time.
But with swinging, it's mainly about sex.
Yeah.
That is the difference.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you think that you can get my husband into me being a swinger because I mean I want to.
He's had you know the, he's had the you know the you know experience of having me be with another woman.
Right.
But we ain't been able to bring no other dick into this.
I know.
That's the difference.
You're right on the money.
When he married me, he put like a fucking restraining order.
Of course.
He put a chastity belt on you and threw the key.
I know.
The thing is yeah.
Because now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now in watching his wife getting fucked.
So that was his main thing because he said that he wasn't any, he was joking.
He said, I'm not coming, I'm going.
You know, it's like I can't satisfy her and I want her to be happy.
And for me, this is how I get my, you know, enjoyment.
I like to see her getting fucked.
But most men have a problem with it.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Cause like, just like when, when I was having that threesome with the girl, like I thought he was going to jump in and I was like, I was so drunk.
He didn't.
And I was like, oh, well, maybe I am ready for this.
Maybe I am.
And he didn't do it.
And I was like, oh, okay.
And even if he did join you, you were still having some pleasure with another woman, but there wasn't another dick involved.
No.
And that is the main fact.
No, he was just a viewer at that point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you know, we can discuss it.
Yeah.
Yeah, we can.
So I find myself like masturbating more now cause my husband and I aren't having, we're not having very much sex lately.
Well, you know, how long have you been married?
We've been married going on three years.
We've been together for going on 14.
Well, you know, so there you have it.
The factor that you have been together for a very long time.
No, it's just, it's just you get used to each other, which is just a matter of fact.
It's not anything that you can ignore, but you can still have a very fruitful, you know, enjoying a very good sex life.
Just depends.
So go ahead.
Yeah.
So you've been masturbating.
Yeah.
Masturbating, thinking about like, other things, you know, cause he masturbates.
He goes upstairs and, you know, looks at porn on the internet.
So, you know, I got my own porn in my head.
Like there's maybe a hot guy.
That's terrific that you're so imaginative.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it is.
It is good.
It is very good.
So on that note, yeah, you know, so I've been doing that and I don't want to cut into your time.
Well, you're going to come and we're going to keep on discussing this.
We're going to keep discussing this.
So people keep, stay tuned in because we're going to, we're going to get into sex and dipity with the sexy Miss Dr. Lamore.
Or Blockman.
Thank you, honey.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you for being on my show.
It was a blast.
For me too.
And I can't wait to turn around and be on your show next.
Yay.
So stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen.
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