Kim from the Muffs interview, new album discussion, and music blocks

Hi, this is Jell-O Biafra. What should you rather have? A pint of booze if you're a recovering alcoholic or a pint of cacophony no matter what or who you are? Speak into the mic, bitch. Say that into the microphone. Keep on rockin' in the free world, and I mean rock, not hop-punk. Not indie-poo. Not middle-of-the-road, Miley Cyrus-y dreck. You're a freak with a microphone. Oh, mama! Good evening, ladies and shitheads. Welcome to another episode of A Pint of Cacophony. My name is Dan Patronillo. We're here at Skid Row Studios. How you doing, Alex? Good, man. How are you? Alejandro. Daniel. Daniel. Daniel Patronillo. So, you decided to get a fucking haircut on the same day I got a haircut. Okay, let's figure this out first. Hold on. We both don't cut our hair until it's necessary. Yes, I like to grow out when I'm a little shaggy, and it looks like a helmet. I always tell myself, your head looks like a helmet now. So, now it's time to get a haircut. Really? I'm on the point where, like, if my fingers can run through it. Oh, I love that, though. No, fuck you. It's too long. I guess. I don't want to wake up and have to do anything. But it's going to look shaggy anyway. No, I don't want to wake up and have to do anything. Okay. So, I keep it shorter to the point where I don't ever have to do anything. Okay, so when did you get your haircut? I got mine on Tuesday. Monday. Oh, kind of close. Yeah. But it's weird because every time we get a haircut, it's always at the same time. I think we just... It's weird. It's weird. It's weird. It's weird. We just grow our hair at the same rate. I squeeze mine out. That's what it feels like. What? Because it feels like my hair grows really quick. Uh-huh. Yeah. I don't know. We should compare our pubes. Let's see what that's like. Dude, let's see. Yeah? No. No, let's not. Let's keep it to our head. All right. Okay. We'll keep that away from everybody. And then what's this fascination with you wanting to see my ass? Because... You always send me messages about my ass. All right, hold on. You work for UPS. Yes. Right? Right. I don't wear those little brown shorts. Okay. You work for the company. Yes, I do. And for some reason, you don't wear the brown shorts, which doesn't make any sense to me. Because I work in the hub. I just load the trailers. That's all I do. But I'm not going to show you my ass. I just want to see a picture of you in the little brown shorts. Like your back with them perked up a little. I sent you the picture earlier. I saw it, yes. I want it recreated, but with you. And this is actually conversations we have late at night. We talk about our asses. We talk about seeing everything. So I don't know. During breakfast. Yeah. Everything. But we have a big show today. We have a big, big show today. We got Kim from the Muffs. Yes. We're going to have an interview with her. We're going to play songs off of the new Muffs record. Yes. It's going to be great on Burger Records. It's going to be fun stuff. But let's go into a song block right now. And Alex, you just showed me this band. And they're called Electric Parlor. And the song's called Reckless. And I think they're fucking phenomenal. My band plays with them all the time. And they're the singer of whales. You're going to hear it. It sounds like Janis. Yeah. And it's like just straight up rock and roll. It sounds like Janis mixed with Led Zeppelin. And it's kind of. But now. But nowadays. But now. Let's hear it. This is a Panicky Coffee. How's that nice girlfriend of yours? Oh, she got hit by a car. She's dead. Oh, right. Come on, baby, won't you take me a hundred miles faster? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't you know it's the only way for me? I told you once and I told you twice. Throwing my hands and rolling my dice. Don't you know that I'm a whiskey moaner? I don't want to see you tomorrow. Hold me, hold me, hold me. Twice. Oh, sugar, won't you roll my dice? Don't you know that I'm a whiskey moaner? Yeah. Pour me another shot of that whiskey, baby. I want to get restless. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, sugar, won't you hold me a little? Yeah, baby. Yeah, yeah. Don't you know it's the only way for me? Hold me close and hold me tight. Cause I don't want no fear tonight. Don't you know that I'm a whiskey moaner? I don't want to see you tomorrow. Throwing my hands and rolling my dice. Oh, sugar, won't you hold me tight? Don't you know that I'm a whiskey moaner? Oh, yeah. Pour me another shot of that whiskey, baby. I want to get reckless, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I do, baby. All right. Yeah. Yeah. guitar solo solo solo solo solo solo I want to get reckless. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Little babies all grows up. You know what? Shut up. Come on. No. Our little babies all grows up. You have to. Gee, why do you have to? I'm not even hungry. I couldn't touch it. Why do you have to? A major production every time we go out. An embarrassment. You know it. Oh, God. Jesus Christ. That's what all I do. Our little boy all grows up tonight. You know what, big boy? You're grown up. You're grown up. Yeah. I did that. Is this a fucking production for you? Because you're grown up and you're grown up and you're grown up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think that's what I think But I don't know I'm gonna get what I want I'm gonna get what I need I'm gonna get what I want I'm gonna get what I need I'm gonna get what I need You can tell me baby I'm gonna get what I want I'm gonna get what I want Then I'll say that I'm gonna give it to you But I don't think that's one thing I'm gonna lose it all All alone I'm gonna get what I want I'm gonna get what I need I'm gonna get what I want Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh I don't get it. What's so funny about a muff? Kitty. I mean, muffs aren't funny. I have a beautiful gray one that I have been using for years. For the love of God. Please. Just tell me what's so funny about my... Nothing. Nothing is funny. Nothing is funny. Nothing is funny. I'll do my best. I want to see it. I can't even see myself just yet. I went out a hundred minutes. I got her on the corner now. So, girl, I got to get you in. Now you're taking action on me. Now you're taking action on me. Now you're taking action on me. Now you're taking action on me. I'm not going to see you. I'm not going to see you. I'm not going to see you. I'm not going to see you. Take that. What? It's the mouse. I know. And now what do you say? Maybe me and my big mom should just let me go away I've done around the world Where did it all go wrong? I went and now I'm sorry I'm so sorry I'm making up these things I want to see you at an R&D show And maybe you'll see That I'm feeling so controlling But I'll never say you're right Why don't you understand? Where did it all go wrong? I went and now I'm sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm making up these things I want to see you at an R&D show And maybe you'll see That I'm feeling so controlling But I'll never say you're right Why don't you understand? Where did it all go wrong? I went and now I'm sorry I've ruined your family you should get someone to help you fight this. Imagine losing your job for something out of your control or being harassed at work. In this economy, we depend so heavily on our sources of income, getting it taken away from us for wrongful reasons is devastating. If you've been wrongfully terminated from your job, call Attorney Alexander Fuquay at Fuquay Law Center. He'll fight for you. Contact by phone at 626-385-8840 or visit his website at www.fuquaylawcenter.com. Fuquay Law Center serves anywhere in California, including Los Angeles, San Diego, and Orange County. Kim is not just your average teenager. Okay, so you're probably going, is this like an Oxima commercial or what? But seriously, I actually have a way normal life for a teenage girl. At more than just your average high school. Miss Stoger, my plastic surgeon doesn't want me doing any activity where balls fly at my nose. Well, there goes your social life. But like... Every teen, she struggles to navigate through growing pains. Everything I think and everything I do is wrong. I was wrong about Ronnie, I was wrong about Roy, and now Charles hated me. It all boiled down to one inevitable conclusion. I was totally clueless. And hormones. Mostly the hormones. Kim has attitude about high school boys. She's saving herself for Luke Perry. But on her path to self-discovery... I decided I needed a complete makeover, except this time... I'd make over my soul. Will she find true love? Pandora's virginity went from technical to non-existent. I realized how much I wanted a boyfriend of my own. Join the Muffs in this coming-of-age story. Ugh, whatever. As if. And enjoy the laughs in... The Muff Story. Welcome. Oh my God, I'm totally cracking up. That was amazing. Welcome. I didn't even know that was about me for about... five seconds of it, and then I'm like, Ronnie, Roy, Charles. You're like, wait, I know these names. I know, I was like, Ronnie, Roy, Charles. When did Charles join the Muffs? I thought that was so funny. All right. Thanks for doing that. Oh, you're welcome. I'm honored. There's more to come. There's more. I want that to be my answering machine message. You know, it's not the first time we've heard that from a guest. We'll email it to you so you can have it that way. That's awesome. So welcome back to Panic! at Coffee. My name's Dan Pacinello. We're sitting here with Kim... I'm the Muffs. I'm in the Muffs. You're in the Muffs. Yes. I'm part of the Muffs. How's it like being in the Muffs? I love it. I love it. The guys are really nice to me. They pet me on the head every once in a while. You're doing a good job, Kim. Thank you. That's what I say. I say thank you for saying that. No, no, no. It's great. No, we're... We get along even better now than we used to. That's awesome to hear. Yeah. We're all DIY and shit. Can I say shit? You can. We're on the Internet. You can say shit. Oh, that's right. You can say fuck and shit and all you want. I don't need to, though. I don't... No. Unless I get mad. Well, we'll see if we get you there. But you guys have a new record. Yes. Whoop-dee-doo. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo. Whoop-dee-doo. Is that what it's about? Yes, whoop-dee-doo. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo. No. It's... You know, Charles from the Pixies said something mean about me. Kind of mean. I mean, it was just defensive, whatever. He had some bug up his butt and he said... He said... Whoop-dee-doo. Like, we changed bass players. Whoop-dee-doo or something like that. I'm paraphrasing. And we just all immediately went, finally, a good album title. We got to do it. We got to do it. And so it was. So you get hired to play with the Pixies and then you got let go shortly after. What happened? Well, actually, I was in the Pixies for about a year. Like, probably nine months. I was so stoked. I heard. I remember. I was like, fuck it. I was like, fuck yeah, Kim's playing with the Pixies. It was cool. It was really nice. It was really nice for a little while. And then I pissed off the drummer by jumping into the crowd. But that's like what you do when you play shows. I, you know, I'm not, I'm not a crowd jumper generally because I don't want to be goosed. Because Ronnie actually got a finger put up his butt through his jeans for doing that diving in the crowd thing. Like he dove backwards. He threw his jeans with this guy of like a three inch fingernail. He got a finger put up his butt through jeans, which is worse than a finger up your butt. It's worse than that. Because you get a little bit of denim and lint. It's denim. I hope he threw them away. So Whoopty Doo is your first album in 10 years. So why now? Tell us about that. We finished it. But we yeah, we took a while. We took a while with it. We didn't know how we were going to put it out. But I had all these songs that I had gradually written. And as soon as as soon as we decided we were going to make a record, we did it. We did basic tracks. We're done with basic tracks because I make those guys go really fast with that. But I take my sweet time with my part. Of course, you know, I just want them to be good. Why your Kim? Yeah, it's a perfectionistic thing. But which I don't believe. Is a good thing. So I had to constantly monitor myself and make sure I wasn't being. How do you go about doing that? Like when, you know, like it's time to stop tweaking with this vocal line or this guitar lick or whatever. This bass riff. I that's the way it's going to be when you know, it's fine. It's mostly about rhythm guitar. If I hear a little sway off, I get a little freaked out. But I mean, the thing is, I pile the guitars on. You're not going to hear one little thing. Be a little teeny bit off. And so I would hear it and I'd be like, freak now. And and then, you know, I wake up the next day because usually it's late and I'm just a little groggy and just like, oh, I got to just like, stop doing this. And. And then I hear the next day and it's fine. So in the morning, the light of day when I'm drinking coffee and I feel fine, it's when I realize all is right with the world. And I don't have to tweak on my stupid. Yeah, it's time to be like, hey, this one's at peace. It's fine. So you produce bands as well. What draws you to that side of the creative process? I like I like capturing. I like good songs is my main thing. And melody is my extra main thing. And I like other bands who have good melodies and good songs and stuff. And so I like to be. I like to help them get it down for posterity and have it sound huge and amazing. And is it like developing that hook or is it like. No, I let the song I let the songwriter deal with the song. And if I have any little, you know, any little ideas or any like, you know, any type of little ideas, I I tell them. But I say, look, you don't have to listen to me. I'm I'm really just hired to. I'm just going to put it like help them get it on to tape, basically. And we're going to do it today, too. Awesome. It always sounds cool like that. So working and working with the Moffs, do you feel like you're you're at the helm with the creative control? What was the question again? When you're working with the Moffs? Yeah. Yeah. How does that process work? You mean, how do we start getting the songs all put together and stuff? Usually I will write a song. And. If I like it because, you know, I don't always like them. And but when I like it, I'll I'll put it down like I'll either just play it out or I'll demo it. Most likely I'll demo it. And then if I like that and I'm a faster demo than I am, you know, putting the real one down. But if I do it, if I do that and then like this year and, you know, they finally all got email and stuff, they were all behind the times. Finally, this year they just got email. Our last one was ten years ago. So they were just getting email then. So really, we I got I gave them I, you know, emailed them to the guys. And I never hear back from Ronnie until way later. He's like, oh, I was afraid to listen to it or something. Some neurotic thing. And Roy will listen to it like right off the bat. Oh, my God, I love it. I love it. And so I'm like, oh, I want to hear my song. I want to hear my other one. And then I'll send another one and another and another. So do you work off of their feedback? Or do you just kind of like, I do my thing and it's not really until later that I'll I'll wonder if they're going to like them or not. Like I if I like them, I figure everyone should like when they're already like established songs. I'm so picky. I'm so picky. And yeah, no, I know. I don't even care if they get heard by anybody. If I really like. I don't know why it took long to is I didn't even know I was going to do anything with the songs. I didn't even know I was going to let. Now I just made the songs up and there they are. And I'm like, oh, these are good songs. I could have just I could just, you know, listen to myself. I don't even have to have other people listen to them. But and then the guy started poking around like, hey, did you write any songs lately? Like we've only haven't done anything for like four years. You know, like knocking on your door like it's been a little bit. I know. I kind of looked at the ground. I'm like, yeah, songs. I've been demoing your thumbs. Like I got a couple ones you want to hear. Yeah. And then they go, were you going to ever play them for us? And I'm like, I don't know. And then eventually we end up here with whoop dee doo, which is on a burger records, right? It is on burger records and over overseas. It's on cherry red record cherry red records. That's right. And burger burgers really doing good by us. I heard they're taking care of you pretty well. They're awesome. There's so much better than Warner Brothers and reprise. Hey, burger. Did you hear that? Kim says you're better than Warner Brothers and all those labels we've been on before. Five to two. They're better than Warner Brothers. That's so great. We just had him in here last week and they're the coolest fucking guys. They're so nice. Yeah, they're they're super sweet and down to earth. And I, you know, I didn't know they were going to be so super ambitious, but I knew that they were cool and they had a good vibe. And they liked our well, we actually didn't play it from where we played a little bit of stuff for Lee, I think from like, you know, unmastered things. But I don't think Sean heard it until we gave it to them. That's trust. That's the way that is. That's when you like cross your arms, close your eyes, just fall backwards. And hopefully and Sean are right there to catch you. Right. I was pretty confident. I really liked it. Like. Like I said, I'm the pickiest, pickiest person there is. And so if I like something, I think that other people might like it. Awesome. Well, I hope they do. And we're playing some more songs off of it. Thank you. We're going to go to a song block and we come back, talk to Kim some more. OK. OK, this is a panic. My name's Dan. Thanks, guys. All right. Look at that. A 1953. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Listen to that bell. Yeah. Listen to that bell. Oh, take a look at that. Oh, my God. Listen to that horn. Oh, my God. Oh, she's beautiful. She is beautiful. Yeah. This is friend of mine. I'd like to know if you can help him out. This is girl he likes. He'd like to know if he can ask about. He thinks she's fine. He thinks she's great. He was wondering if you knew that this friend of mine is me. And the girl he likes is you. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. So I asked her about what type of girls he likes. And that girl, that girl was me There's this friend of mine I'd like to know If you can help him out There's this girl he likes He'd like to know if he can ask about He thinks she's fun, he thinks she's great He was wondering if you knew That this friend of mine is me And the girl he likes is you Oh, oh, oh I know now, I know now I know now, I know now I know now, I know now I know now, I know now Well, yes, but I'm afraid I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid I have to go. I'm afraid I have to go. I'm afraid I have to go. I'm afraid I have something of a mess on my hands. I'm afraid I have something of a mess on my hands. It's all because I think I got Summertime Syndrome I think I got Summertime Syndrome What you say when you can't speed up They don't get it, it's already been enough My friend said, oh, but she thinks I'm fucking dumb They don't get it, cause she's really fucking dumb I just can't focus On all this hocus pocus And all these flaws It's all because I think I got Summertime Syndrome I think I got Summertime Syndrome I think I got Summertime Syndrome I think I got Summertime Syndrome I think I got Summertime Syndrome We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. slide over people, like with my knees, sliding over the food and stuff. That's so classic. It's so sad, though. I would never do that now because I'm older and wiser, hopefully. Hopefully, she says. Hopefully, but you never know. I'm a loose cannon. So, Kim, what bands should we be paying attention to right now? What bands? What bands? The Muffs. Yeah, the Muffs. Just screw every other band in the whole entire world. No, no, no. There are lots of good bands. You know who I like? Yeah, who do you like? It's a burger band, actually, that I was turned on to that we played with, Peach Kelly Pop. Oh, cool. They're really good. Yeah, yeah. I think live, they're especially good. They're, I don't know. The energy on stage brings it a little bit more than their tapes do. I don't know because I wasn't watching their act, but I was hearing it. I was hearing it from across the room because I was busy getting ready for, you know, plugging my dumb pedals in and stuff. Yeah, yeah. And I could hear them, their whole set, and I was like, oh. Because we had, they opened for us at the Satellite a half a year ago or so, and I heard them from the other side of the wall then, too. So, I don't even know what they look like on stage, but they're really good. And a band that I'm producing called Honey Chain. Honey Chain. Yeah. They are so good. They're so good. They have really, really, really good songs, and they rock out really hard. Honey Chain. Maybe in the next episode of Pint might feature some. We'll see. That would be super cool. That'd be cool. They would enjoy that a lot. Sure. They're a new band. What advice can you give younger musicians and bands out there trying to navigate their careers these days in this generation? Oh, what advice? Well, I mean, you know, you got to do it your way. You can't, don't try to be trendy because that's really sad. Yeah. You hear that? You know, I mean, you have your own inner voice. Just listen to it when you're writing songs. I mean, definitely write songs with melody, please. I beg of you. And the muffs, you feel like you guys just stay true to that since day one? Pretty much. As much as possible. I mean, I definitely don't. I'm not affected by other people's music at all. I don't have a lot of influence. Like, I'm not a person that seeks out music that much. I seek out music that I happen to hear and then I get really, really, really into it. Kind of like Feast or Famine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm really into certain bands' songs. Sometimes I don't like the band, but I like a song here or there. Like, that's a great track by them, but I don't know if I feel their whole catalog. Yeah. And, yeah, it's really fun to listen like that because it's kind of like it's all or nothing. Right. Yeah. It's more about the song and the melody for me than it is about... Anything. And if it happens to be a good album all the way through, knock me over with a feather because nobody does that. It's hard. It's hard. It's rare. Well, I feel like you just put a challenge out there to the world. World? World of band people? Do a solid one all the way through. Let's knock her over with a feather. Let's see if we can do it. Knock me over with a damn feather. But it's also like Diane Arbus used to take pictures, you know, before she sliced her throat or whatever. I don't know. Right. Duh, whatever. And I guess she hated taking pictures. I don't know. But she had this thing that she wanted every single picture on the frame to be exactly the way she wanted it to be. No wasted frames. Exactly. Back now, people take their digital cameras and they go, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Yeah, and then we'll take a thousand and we'll find three decent ones. Yeah. And then their hard drive fills up and they're like, why? Let's do it right the first time. Exactly. Let's go into another song block. We're going to hear a couple more songs here. We got Little Hurricane and the new Benjamin Booker and then another muff song off the new record. And then we're going to find out how we all get the hell, like we get our hands on this thing. What do you mean? How do we get the record? You buy it? Well, yeah. We'll come back and talk about that. Do you need to get some stuff? I mean, I don't know. I thought that it was in the stores. I think it is. Am I wrong? No, it is total. Thirty seven. My girlfriend sucked 37 dicks. In a row? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Your day so I can see you Oh, you'll be my light when I'm dead I'll be your calm in the storm of day You'll be the beat in my heart when there is none You'll be the air in my lungs when my breath is done You'll be the tears I can cry when you're with me You're my only reason to keep from sleeping Oh, you'll be my light when I'm dead I'll be your calm in the storm of day Tell my world I'm gonna try To stay close to you by your side You'll be my light when I'm dead I'll be your calm in the storm of day Tell my world I'm gonna try To stay close to you by your side Wait, wait, let me explain something to you. Um, I am not... I'm not Mr. Lebowski. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude! I'm the Dude! Told me that the world is full of sinners And placed a Bible on my feet I could hardly understand ya, boy Just learned that she's not me I've heard that she will call on the door Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. And now, a tribute to the late and wonderful Robin Williams. Oh dear, dear, oh dear. I can see a new month record. Hand it over, hand it over. I want to show Sally Fields. Hello! R.I.P. Robin Williams. Okay. I don't know what to say. Complicated. But I'll carry on my day. Maybe I'll go ahead and do what I can do. But I'll keep the PJs on and sleep. Damn it, oh yeah. I'm up and down the round. I'm not completely sound. But in and out. I'm up and down the round. I'm taking out and feeling freaky. Are you nervous? I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.