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I ain't doing nothing but talking shit.
Y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way along.
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I ain't doing nothing but talking shit.
Y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way along.
Ow.
I know you're gonna dig this.
Don't touch that guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's poppin'?
Don't touch yourself yet.
This is Nestor Rodriguez.
Your host of the Nestorian.
It's a public radio show.
And I'm live and direct.
It's Thursday night, 9 p.m.
Pacific Standard Time.
I got my main Negroes in the house.
You know, the usual, Simon Kaufman.
That's right.
That's right here with Nasty Nestorius.
And we got my man, Rich Corbin.
What's up, everybody?
Redheads in the house.
And we got a special guest tonight, my man, Wynn Walters.
Good evening.
Did I get that shit right?
You got it.
No S.
No S.
Oh, Walter.
There's only one of you.
That's right.
Okay, got it.
Wynn Walter.
We're having a winter view.
Yeah, we're having a winter view.
A Walter view.
Yes.
So right off the bat, I met Wynn a couple weeks ago.
I read about him on, what the fuck was it, Yelp?
I needed my haircut.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yes, sir.
I went to Yelp and shit.
I just, like, Googled downtown L.A.
barbershops.
Yes, sir.
And, you know, the thing about downtown L.A., which is a very interesting thing.
We're going to talk a little bit about downtown L.A.
We're going to talk about the history of barbershops.
I'm going to interview you a little bit.
We're going to talk about homeless kids.
Absolutely.
In downtown L.A., we're going to talk about a nonprofit organization, Lost Angels Children's Charity, yeah?
It's Lost Angels Children's Project.
There you go.
Lost Angels Children's Project.
We're going to talk about that a little later.
But what's interesting about coming down to downtown L.A.
for me is that, you know, as a, being a New Yorker, and you come to Los Angeles, you wind up living, you know, wherever the fuck we live.
I live in the Valley, you know, and you're not really in a city.
Even though Los Angeles is a city, it's just spread out.
Right.
But when you come down to downtown Los Angeles, you know, during the day, this is a hustling, bustling mecca, a lot, very colorful.
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you know it's homeless city crazy city a bunch of different characters and whatnot but one of the things i noticed when uh me and the boys would uh go get a burger or something after the show was all these fucking barbershops that had opened up you know this one uh maybe you told me broadway that's open to midnight spring that's open to midnight yeah yeah it's like man i want to get like i didn't even need a haircut but it was midnight i was like fuck it i want to get my haircut right you know massaged you remember like i was about ready to get a haircut but as we were walking by there it just looked very uh uh inviting you know what i mean right so i was it was about that time when i needed a haircut i got and i got the uh the idea of uh of you know maybe i can go to one of those barbershops down there before the show a couple weeks ago so i googled uh you know los angeles uh downtown la barbershops and you know uh angelos angelos came up angelos came up and there was you and these other two right right because you know yelpers are funny they've been like yo i went there one time and you know i got a good haircut the next time i went they fucked up my hair or or you know the prices were were they got like really you know they raised their prices without telling me or you know i went in the receptionist didn't even say hello or just sit sat me down the first time she was nice and i'm like you know i you have to learn how to filter through the yelp yelp reviews you know what i mean but you had like five reviews.
Yo, ask for win.
You know what I mean?
So I went down, and as I walked in, you were like, hey, dude, how you doing, man?
You introduced yourself.
Win.
I'm like, fuck, I just hit the jackpot.
That's win.
Right.
I was actually getting ready to close up.
I was there late.
Yeah.
You know?
Well, your shop is open till 9.
No, no, it closes at 7.30.
Oh, shit.
Oh, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Because I got there around 7 and change.
Right, but I'll tell you, if somebody comes in, I'm going to take them.
Right.
You know?
Oh, that's the five-star Yelp superstar.
No, no, no, no, but that's business, dude.
That's right.
That's like if somebody comes in late.
I never understood like going into an establishment, let's say a coffee shop, right, or a bakery or whatever.
Right.
They close at 10, right?
Five to 10, motherfuckers already got their dicks in their pockets, fucking uniform off.
It closes at 10.
That means your doors are open till 10.
Yeah, because they're already home.
They're already thinking about being home.
Yeah, but the thing is- They got the bong water already.
Yeah, exactly.
The bong.
They spent their day.
They're ready to get to level two.
So anybody that interrupts that, they got a bad attitude.
Yeah, but this is where you have to go back to the origins of businesses, right?
Like when you owned a business, and we'll go to that, barbershops bought- By design, usually were independently owned.
They're like, you go to barber school.
All businesses were.
Well, but predominantly barbershops, it's a single solo duty.
He opens up a storefront, and then he may throw in another two chairs, and two other mama lukes that know how to fucking use a straight razor come in and they sit down.
But the owner, he's not going to turn somebody away.
Well, see, the thing is with barbershops, okay, is they're traditional.
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay?
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Right.
America, like you're saying, that's owned and operated by the person working in the business.
Right, right.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I meant.
Not like every business.
You know, nowadays, you go to a meat market, the fucking owner of the meat market isn't going to be the head butcher.
He may be, but don't count on it.
I mean, see, the interesting thing about that is that now, all across America, it's almost like there's a resurgence of going back to that type of stuff.
There's like some butcher shops that are opening up in Brooklyn or even here in L.A.
There are organic butcher shops owned by two butchers, and they're going back to the old way.
Well, what you get is you get passion, okay, right, when you're talking about tradition, okay, right?
And these guys, like you're talking about butchers or chefs or barbers like myself, okay, right, you have this major passion, okay, right, to execute your work.
To fuck up something.
Okay.
To fuck up somebody's hair.
Okay, right, right.
When you're working.
I got a passion.
Hey, yo, listen, I'm a good barber.
You sit a motherfucker down, be like, bing.
You ever fuck up somebody's hair?
When you, have I?
Yeah, yeah.
Of course I have.
Are you kidding me?
No, no, no, I'm saying have you done it on purpose?
Never.
Never?
Never.
You never had a dick come into your fucking barber shop, and you're like, you know what, this motherfucker, I'm going to hook him up.
Never?
Listen, listen, I got to tell you a story.
I'm a Jew, okay, right?
Yeah, I'm a Jew, too.
He's a Jew.
Okay, and some skinhead.
Comes into my shop.
Yeah.
Okay, right?
Yeah.
And tries, okay, okay.
Start giving you some anti-Semitic bullshit.
Okay, he's telling, well, he don't know I'm a Jew, man, and he's telling me all this stuff.
I know you're a Jew just by you talking, dude.
Okay, okay.
Just by your passion.
Yeah, just by your passion.
You be like, yo, I'll cut your hair, I'll fucking sign a contract for you, I know a real estate broker, a lawyer, a butcher, a baker.
Just have a seat.
Yeah, just come see women.
So you're saying, so the skinhead, okay, well, he wasn't a skinhead, because obviously, he was in the barbershop getting a haircut, but he was, he's a racist.
Right, right.
And he's trying.
White supremacist.
White supremacist, right?
Okay.
And he's telling me all this crap, okay, right?
Like this, that, and this thing.
And I got the clippers in my hand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, right?
Right?
And I'm thinking to myself, I can just do this guy right now, okay, right?
But then you go in jail, and then you'll be sucking some Aryan cock in fucking St. Louis.
No, no, no, no.
When I say do, I'm talking about just take the clippers, man, and just wham, okay, right?
Yeah.
Okay, right?
But see, you know what's better?
Yeah.
The fact, okay?
Yeah.
This white supremacist paid this Jew money, okay, to cut his hair, and he came back for a second haircut.
Right, yeah.
Right.
Okay?
And a third haircut.
And at what point did you tell him that you were a Jew?
You know, the Jews, they're taking our hair.
Hell no, I never told him I wanted his money, man.
You never told him?
No!
Okay?
Right?
Right?
But I screw up his hair.
That's what I love about Jews, man.
Okay?
Jews have, like, thick skin, like, like, like, like, they won't.
I mean.
Me, I'll fucking go buck wild.
If I'm in a fucking hair, if I'm cutting hair, and, and I'm a Jew, and somebody starts selling some, saying some anti-Semitic shit, or some anti-black shit, or whatever, I, I don't know.
I'm just like you, Nestor.
The only difference is, there's one crossover.
The only difference is, you own a business, and you're self-employed, and you work.
Exactly.
Me, I'm unemployed, I can't own a business, and I'm on welfare.
That's one of the big differences.
Exactly.
On the street, okay, right?
Yeah.
Then I would have ran.
Then I would have ran.
I'm over with the car.
Okay, right?
But in my business, it's the business, man.
Yeah.
No, I get it.
I get it.
I get it.
I get it.
Yeah.
So.
I remember.
He just, he just helped you out.
Exactly.
For a few choice words.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I remember I was, I was bartending in the Upper East Side, and this, like, old Irish dude comes in.
He's sitting there.
He's talking to me about the, the baseball players.
Upper East Side where?
Because that's my home.
In New York.
Where?
What, what part?
It was like 66.
66.
66, okay.
Yeah.
And he's like, you know why there's no black baseball pitches?
He was, he was Irish?
Yeah, just old dude.
Old dude.
He had a brogue.
He was like, you know.
No.
He was, he was just drunk.
I don't know that he was from Ireland.
He was just drunk.
He told me he was Irish.
That's all I knew.
He was just drunk.
Yeah.
Well, no, but he's sitting there in the bar.
He's like.
I'll never forget.
He goes, you know why there's no black baseball pitches?
Yeah.
I'm like, why?
Because they don't see too good.
It's like, where are you getting that from, bitch?
Yeah.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
I'm doing cutting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was mixing, he was mixing two punchlines, an African American one and an Asian one.
That's what Rich is trying to say.
I think that's what happened.
He was like, he was like, he had some dementia going on.
Hey, McGillicuddy, McGillicuddy, there's Google, okay?
Check out your facts and then tell a joke.
Fucking idiots.
No, dude, it was hilarious.
But anyway.
It was racist.
I was looking up barbering, because we've all heard, you know, different stories on the barber pole, right?
Right.
The barber pole.
The white and the red and the blue.
Sure, sure, sure.
And we've all heard stories of the origin of the barber shop was not only a place where you can get, first of all.
The barber pole is one of next to the red light, okay?
Right.
Right?
Which the red light they put out for prostitution.
Okay?
But the second oldest form of advertising is the barber pole.
Right.
Correct.
Yeah.
Well, well, just so we get back, before the haircut, barber comes from the Latin word barba, which barba means beard.
Right.
Okay?
So the barber shop traditionally is a place where you can go get a shave.
Uh-huh.
A nice shave.
And then if your wife is acting up, you can get her fucking, you know, get her tubes tied.
Right?
Right.
Well, see, actually, okay, right, if you want to go way back.
Let's go way back.
You went in.
Right.
Okay, right?
Right.
And you had a shave.
Okay?
You had your ears lowered.
You got a little haircut.
You got your ears lobed?
Lowered.
Lowered.
Lowered.
Lowered.
Which means you get.
Well, now they trim your fucking hairs in the ear, too.
Did they do that back then?
Well, I hope so.
Yeah.
Okay.
Who knows, though?
Okay, right?
You see, his Jewish shit is popping up.
He goes, I hope so.
Go ahead.
Did it sound like that?
To me, dude, I'm New York.
I'm, I, I.
Okay, so anyways, bottom line is, okay, all right, and you'd get a little bloodletting.
Right.
And they'd put a, throw a few leeches on you.
Right, right.
And if you had a wart, they might cut that off, too.
Because what it was, was barber surgeon.
Right.
Okay?
That's what it was.
That's what it was.
Which, coming back to the barber.
Right.
The barber pole, the red, white, and blue, the red was blood.
Okay?
The white was bandages.
Right.
And the blue was veins.
Right.
Got it.
Okay.
Got it.
And that's, that's the origin of the barber pole.
And, and, absolutely, well said, dude.
Well said.
Have you ever bloodlet a person or put a leech on them?
Um, no.
No.
What is, what is bloodletting?
I mean, I, is that like when you have a cyst and it's all boiled or something?
Well, see, back then, it was ridiculous because back in those days, I mean, and, and this is, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Much about it.
Okay.
But back then, okay, if you felt a little sick or whatever, they felt that, okay, your blood was impure.
Okay.
So let's go ahead, open a vein up, get, you know, which a lot of people died after the haircut.
As they should.
Yes.
As they should.
That's why you had to pay up front.
As they should.
Right.
For letting a barber fucking cut their veins.
As they should.
Okay, but remember, they were the original surgeons.
I know.
In fact, I was reading, well, first of all, uh, uh, uh, the barber's trade has been a long history.
Razors have been found among relics, relics of the bronze age.
That's right.
Around 3500 BC in Egypt.
That's right.
So, so in, in Egyptian, in Egyptian culture, barbers were highly respected individuals.
Priests and men of medicine are the earliest recorded examples of barbers.
That's right.
So, so you have, you have these guys.
And then, uh, men in ancient Greece would have their beards, hair, and fingernails trimmed and styled by their coupique.
Uh, uh.
Whatever the fuck that is.
Okay.
Which, which was the coiffure.
Uh, coiffure.
Yeah, that's right.
Coiffure.
In an agora market, which is a marketplace in, in Greece, which also served as a social gathering for debates and gossip.
Right.
Which is still the same thing today.
Still the same thing.
Nothing's changed.
Yeah, yeah.
I, I was, I, and, well, barbering was introduced to Rome by the Greek colonies in Sicily in 2, uh, 296 BC.
So we're talking about like the evolution of it, but I was reading further on that, uh, like you said.
The barbershop as a place to gossip, read the paper, get away from the wife, talk shit, you know, brag and make yourself.
They were social clubs for men.
They were the original social clubs for men.
Right.
Okay.
See, the hierarchy had their own little like fraternities and whatnot.
Right.
But working class.
But the working class, okay, congregated at the barbershop or the bar.
Right.
Okay.
Right.
But you can't get a haircut or your tooth pulled at the bar.
So you do it at the barbershop.
You could get your tooth knocked out though at the bar, but.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Or the barbershop.
There were some tough barbershops.
Let me tell you something.
Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, hell yeah.
Well, come on, dude.
Okay.
Check it.
In addition to haircutting, hairdressing, and shaving, barbers performed, as you said, surgery, bloodletting, and leeching, fire cupping, enemas, and the extraction of teeth, earning them the name barber surgeons, like you said.
Well, I agree all with that except the enema part.
Right.
You wouldn't do that.
Yeah.
No, I'm not doing that.
Yeah.
I don't care.
Me neither, man.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
You couldn't pay me, man.
Okay.
That's a fucking tough barber.
All the other stuff was really interesting.
You lost me at enema.
Can I tell you something?
That's a tough barber.
That's right.
When he's fooling around with somebody's ass.
That's right.
I'd make a real good homeless person because I can't take direction.
I don't like authority, and I won't do much of that type of shit.
Like, at the lower level of life, if you had to, like if you had no money and you had to eat, somebody would say, listen, I got an enema fucking operator job.
Do you want it?
No.
No.
I'd be a homeless motherfucker.
Absolutely.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
So fuck that.
Yeah.
So anyway.
That's a shitty job.
So check it.
So check it.
Late in the 19th century, there were several noteworthy events in the barber profession that gave it an upward trend, and the effects are still carrying onward and upward.
So in 1893, A.B.
Moeller of Chicago, not Moellar, Moeller of Chicago, established a school for barbers, right?
So this is the first institution of its kind in the world.
Right.
And it's successful.
This was apparent from its very start.
It stood for a higher education in the ranks, and the parent school was rapidly followed by branches in nearly every principal city of the U.S.
If I'm not mistaken, Moeller Barber College still exists today, okay, in different states.
And if I believe so, there's still one in Long Beach, California.
You're probably right.
I didn't go that far at Googling locations.
But this is the first dude in 1893.
This is the first dude in 1893 to establish a proper training facility for barbering.
Right.
Right?
So which we'll go into in a couple of seconds.
Now, at that point, were they still doing...
Leeching and all that stuff?
No, no.
Well, not leeching, but were they still doing like...
Enemas?
Tooth extractions or this kind of stuff?
Probably not.
Probably not.
Listen, listen.
This is what happened.
I don't remember when it was established, okay?
But see, what ended up happening, okay, is...
There were health laws, okay?
Right.
When the health laws came into effect...
That was in the turn of the century.
Right.
A little later.
I think it was like in the early, early 1920s.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I was thinking.
They started establishing laws, okay, in regards to the barber shop.
You couldn't just tie a tooth to a door anymore and just slam a shop.
Right, right.
And see...
People started getting sick.
Lawyers started coming up.
Where'd you get that infection?
Right.
And doctors started becoming...
Becoming doctors.
Right.
So they didn't want the barber to take their shit.
Exactly.
But also science caught up with them and they realized, okay, there's a proper way to extract a tooth.
Right, right.
Well, the dentistry...
Let's not put a leech on this guy to extract evil spirits.
Right.
Hit him with a hammer.
Right.
Just hit him in the head with a hammer.
That's right.
So that's...
You hit it right on the head.
See, science caught up with itself.
Well, dentistry started evolving.
Surgery started evolving.
And this is all happening right around that time.
Right.
In the mid-1800s.
Right.
And see, the whole doctor part of it actually left barbering years before that.
But you can still go to the barber and get your tooth pulled.
If you need...
Right.
If you didn't have dental insurance back then.
Yeah.
Right.
If you didn't have dental insurance...
You'd be like, yo, yo, Jaime, yo, I ain't got no dental insurance or shit.
Well, they still had the chairs too, you know?
They like...
Right.
Right.
They still had the equipment.
Right.
If you look at the barber chair and the old dentist chair, it's the same chair.
Right.
And actually, actually, they were made...
Right.
They were made by the same companies.
There you go.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
And probably...
He gives you a couple shots of whiskey.
Yep.
And those chairs are very expensive.
I don't know what they cost back then, but today, to get one of those chairs, like one of those original...
Thousands of dollars.
Thousands.
10,000 you can spend if it's original condition.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Even restored to original...
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're very nice.
Very sexy.
Yeah.
I would love to have one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's one of my...
I would like to have a classic car or two.
I'm not sure if a hot rod would fall into the...
The classic car thing, but I'm not opposed to it.
That's why I'm going to buy a ticket to your raffle.
We'll talk about that later.
Absolutely.
A ticket or two or three.
Absolutely.
Or four.
Who knows, right?
Yeah.
Who knows, man?
Right.
Exactly.
Because I'd like to up my chances of getting that hot rod.
We'll talk about that later.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In the meantime, while we're bullshitting, just take this address down, www.lostangelschildrensproject.com.
Absolutely.
All right.
We'll go back to that later on.
Don't forget that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
www.lostangelschildrensproject.com.
Thank you.
We'll go back to that.
We'll go back to that towards the end of the show.
But yeah, and a barber chair.
Yeah.
I mean, those are things that I want to have.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
I'll opt for a dental chair because they look similar.
No, they're not sexy.
No, they're not.
You said sexy.
No, no, but you could doctor up a fucking dental chair and make it sexy like a barbershop.
You know, get it nice and red, red leather.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Buff up the fucking...
Iron or whatever.
You know, anyway, that's one of the things I want.
And a couple of bald-headed chicks to reside in my backyard.
That was the last show.
Right.
Yeah.
That was the last show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was the last show or one of the last shows.
Anyway, so anyway, this dude, A.B.
Moeller, what is it?
In the beginning of barber schools, only the practical work of shaving, haircutting, facial treatments, et cetera.
Was taught as neither the public nor the profession were ready to accept scientific treatments of hair, skin, and scalp.
This was still part of the barbering thing.
They weren't going for that mumbo jumbo, you know, Vidal Sassoon bullshit.
No, it was straightforward.
Straightforward.
So it wasn't, like you said, not until about 1920 was much effort made to professionalize the work.
So right around that time when the health shit started coming up.
Right.
Right.
Anyway, so...
The barber, Sam Mature, whose interview with Studs Terkel was published in Terkel's 1974 book, Working, which is a great book, by the way, which is one of the books I told you about, Simon, before we started doing this podcast.
Studs Terkel was a radio personality and what do you call it?
A news guy.
And he interviewed a lot of people.
One of his books.
It was a great interview.
He was a great interviewer.
He really drew the person.
What a great name, Studs, though, man.
I love that.
Yo, yo, look him up.
So in his book, Working, what's interesting about this book is that he interviews regular guys, steel workers, prostitutes.
Housewives.
Housewives.
Barbers.
So when I went to acting school...
What's life like in America?
Well, when I went to acting school, right, so I'm a Puerto Rican, I'm a working class Puerto Rican, but I don't fit that role of an electrician or whatever.
Even if I'm a working class Puerto Rican, I don't fit that role of an electrician or whatever.
Even though I was a fucking electrician for 17 years.
You know, I don't look like a blue collar worker.
So it's weird.
So as an actor, you have to learn monologues.
So my acting teacher said, go into working and look up a couple of those monologues and use one of those.
You know, because you got to come up with monologues.
And after a while, when, you know, I tried memorizing monologues for me has always been very difficult.
So I'd just be like, fuck it.
I can make my own monologue.
You know what I mean?
Yo, bitch, what the fuck is wrong with you?
You know what I mean?
Don't have my motherfucking Kool-Aid.
Fuck that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Go in the motherfucking cupboard and get me my motherfucking Kool-Aid.
Or I'll slap you.
You know what I mean?
And you just record that shit and you fucking, and you go into, into an audition and they'll be like, wow, that was very good.
That was good.
I got to tell you, that was convincing.
That was very good.
And that's it.
And then the Kool-Aid guy busts the door down and is like, yo, don't say that.
If you ever ask me for Kool-Aid, man, I'm getting it.
No, no, no.
You were very, you wanted your fucking Kool-Aid.
That was very good.
That was very, that was very good.
And that's your, what, what, what play was that from?
You know what I mean?
It was from Joe Jackson and the Adventures of the Kool-Aid Chronicles.
That's where it was from.
You know what I mean?
If you want to check out Studs Terkel, HBO did a documentary on him recently.
That's really good.
And just talked about his life and how he kind of, you know, everyone wants to interview the athletes and the superstars and the rock stars.
He went to the normal, average, everyday working American to see what life's real like.
Which is, which is when I, when I, when I proposed the show.
What are you Simon?
It's part of what I wanted to do aside from, you know, talking mad shit about all sorts of, you know.
Kicking mad flavor.
Kicking mad oodle doodles of motherfucking boombastical type of floating flavor and shit in your ear.
You know, I wanted to like interview regular people, man.
You know, from a real person perspective, right?
So you can come on my barber chair, for instance, and you could be a prostitute, whatever.
I'm not really interested in like demeaning or demoralizing anybody.
You know what I mean?
But I want to get to know a person like we're going to get to know you in a couple of minutes.
You know what I mean?
Very good.
But a man used to get a haircut.
This is very interesting because Sam Mature said a man used to get a haircut every couple weeks, like every two weeks.
You know, man, this is back in the twenties, right?
Well, it's actually renaissance back to that more guy.
Now.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
But that went out of favor.
That went out of favor.
So every couple of weeks now he waits a month or two.
Some of them even longer than that.
A lot of people would get manicured and fixed up every week.
Most of these people retired, moved away or passed away.
It's all on account of long hair.
You take old timers.
They wanted to look neat, to be presentable.
Now people don't seem to care too much.
That's that's a quote probably from from the book Working.
Right.
But that's that's.
Well, that's come around again.
Yes.
Which is why we're going to come back now to the present where I'm looking for a haircut and there's all these fucking barbershops in downtown L.A.
Right.
And now it's come back again where men.
Want to take good care of themselves.
Right.
Absolutely.
Actually, the metrosexual.
A long time ago.
Yeah, but I disagree with the metrosexual thing, actually, because see what has happened is it says hair got shorter and hair got shorter.
Why not with metrosexuals?
Hair got shorter.
OK.
With the low riders.
OK.
OK.
Right.
That's right.
Right.
And the hot water.
OK.
Right.
All right.
And these guys.
And the kids started like, OK, I want to clean up.
OK.
Right.
And as that grew in.
OK.
Right.
Do do do do do do.
OK.
I can go.
I'm trying to lower the music in the background.
This doesn't exist anymore.
No, no, no.
That's right.
That's right.
He just kind of blacks out and he just kind of goes.
Remember, I'm Jewish, man, so I can interrupt, but I cannot be interrupted.
Yes.
Go for it, baby.
Go for it.
Right.
So what happened was, OK, his hair got shorter.
And it became good flavor with the younger crowd.
OK.
Right.
If you want to really look at like the hipsters and the metrosexuals and whatever.
Yes, they like to be pampered and everything.
For sure.
OK.
But.
OK.
Now I've got guys coming in, getting their haircuts once a week because they want to be clean.
They want to be tailored.
They want to be right.
OK.
Tight.
Everything's tight.
I get a haircut.
I get a haircut.
I get told you in the elevator.
You're like every three weeks.
I go four weeks.
But now I'm going to fucking move that shit up to at least every two weeks.
Right.
Well, you know what I'm saying?
For listeners out there, what do you guys charge?
Like, you know, if they want to come down to what do you charge for a shave or a haircut?
Well, we'll see.
Here's the thing.
It's not it's not even exactly what we charge.
It's what we do, too.
OK.
Right.
Talk about it.
OK.
This is at Angelo's.
This is at Angelo's.
So Angelo's has about five different locations.
We're talking about seven.
Seven.
We're talking about the one downtown Los Angeles.
Downtown Los Angeles.
South Olive.
Right.
Between fifth and fourth.
We're at 515 South Olive.
We're at the Biltmore Hotel.
Oh, yeah.
Right outside.
Right across from Pershing Square.
Dude.
The Biltmore Hotel.
That's another.
We'll have you back on to talk about the Biltmore.
Absolutely.
That's where the fucking Oscar Awards used to be.
Oh, let me tell you something.
Yo, that hotel is off the hook, man.
Oh, it's crazy.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
I mean, the architecture is just unbelievable.
And which is so cool because, see, then you can take.
And when we built the shop, we made sure, OK, that we should have a hotel.
We stayed in that same flavor.
Right.
OK.
Of that time.
It was like, I wanted to make sure that the shop looked like a lawyer's library or a cigar store shop.
Flavorful.
Flavorful.
Right.
Exactly.
And that's the feeling for the flavor of some hardwood.
That madman.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
OK.
Even, see, that's kind of mid-century.
Even like, so I'm just going to say like between the turn of the century up until that madman look.
The 40s.
And let me tell you something.
You walk into the shop.
It says downtown LA 19.
40s.
Nice.
Period.
Nice.
OK.
Right.
OK.
So.
So.
Angelo's on South Olive.
We're going to get back to all that stuff.
OK.
But.
So what do you do?
Simon asked about.
It's not how much it costs, but it's not what.
How much.
Well, I'll tell you.
The only reason I bring up price is because if someone's going to go get it done every week.
Right.
Is that something.
We're super affordable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
You can walk into a place right now.
Thirty bucks.
Minimum.
Eighty bucks.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
It's 80 bucks.
And you get the foo foo and all that other stuff.
Three hundred fucking dollars.
Here's your champagne with the strawberry.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
I'm like, I can fucking cut your hair for 50.
Right.
Right.
And you're not going to get what you get from me.
No, no, no, no, no.
Right.
So what do you.
OK.
So.
So.
So we're 24 bucks for a basic haircut.
Basic haircut.
Basic haircut.
High and dry.
OK.
Right.
If you want a buzz cut, we're 17 bucks.
OK.
Right.
Oh, you didn't offer that shit to me, man.
Well, you don't get a buzz cut.
Oh, OK.
OK.
Right.
So I don't want to hear about it.
What'd you say?
What'd you say when I came into the shop?
I get this all the time.
This is what Wynn said.
He goes, oh, dude, you got a nice head of hair.
Right.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
What is it with fucking people and like nice thick hair?
They always say.
Well, I'm a barber, man.
You're a barber.
OK.
Right.
And I see.
You see the hair.
I'm a craftsman, man.
I'm a boat builder.
Yeah.
OK.
Right.
I mean, I'm old school.
You're like, I'm fucking doing some damage with that.
Man, check this shit out.
Nestor, you got great hair.
It's like, you know, sit down, man.
I mean, this is my pleasure.
OK.
Right.
Sit down.
I'm going to hook you up.
Yes.
OK.
Right.
And you did.
So the bottom line is, is we're really affordable.
OK.
Right.
Right.
But see, not it's not like you were talking about.
It's not just the haircut.
It's like we do the shape.
And at Angelo's.
OK.
Right.
It's all about service.
Right.
OK.
Service is number one.
Professionalism.
OK.
Right.
Right.
And detail.
OK.
And I'm going to give.
I don't care who you are, what you are.
When you leave that shop, you got my name on your head.
And I am not ever, ever, ever.
OK.
OK.
Going to subject that to anything like the skinhead.
You ready?
OK.
You ready?
Yeah.
Big up for all your motherfuckers that pay one time, two time, three time and get a fucked up haircut.
Come on down to Angelo.
Talk to Wynn, man.
Get your hair done, dude, brother.
Get it done good, brother.
Naughty dread.
Naughty dread.
Don't get a hair don't.
Get a hair do, motherfucker.
You don't fuck with Jamaicans, though, right?
You don't do no fucking reggae hair.
You don't fuck with that shit.
Well, you're talking about like dreadlocks?
Yeah, you can't fucking.
They don't cut their hair, man.
What do you want from me, man?
What's up with these white dudes, right?
That fucking, they get, they grow dreads.
What the fuck?
Did anybody tell them, man?
I don't care.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Okay.
Like, do you get like white dudes in the fucking middle of fucking white dudes?
I don't even see too many black guys, but light skinned dudes, whites, Puerto Ricans, Latinos in the middle of fucking summer, 4th of July, August 16th with a knit cap.
What the fuck is up with that?
Well, you got to live that life, bro.
You can't get it unless you live that life.
What is that life?
Okay, right.
That's some low rider shit.
What?
Wearing a fucking knit cap in the middle of the summer?
You don't get it, man.
Okay.
They got, they got really wavy hair.
Explain that shit to me.
Okay.
Right.
I'm not talking about a do-rag or a fucking sock.
I'm talking about a wool, a fucking wool hat.
Oh, the wool cap.
The wool cap.
The ear flaps, man.
With the ear flaps.
Yeah.
No, a fucking wool cap that you'd be wearing to go skiing, man.
No, that's insecurity, man.
Insecurity?
Yeah.
What are you talking about?
Oh, you're trying to microwave fleas up in your motherfucking head in the middle of August.
Listen, I'm a barber.
I don't know something.
I don't, I'm not a psychologist.
I don't get that.
Got it.
No, I understand a fucking, a do-rag or.
No.
I thought you were talking.
Oh, hooking up the waves.
I get that.
I thought you were talking about the.
The stocking.
The stocking thing, man.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I get that.
You gotta get the.
Yeah.
No, that's a lifestyle.
That's different.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, that's different.
That's like, what you looking at, eh?
You fucking with my look, eh?
Yeah.
I stab you just on principle, eh?
Cause you didn't spell my name right, eh, puto?
Yeah.
Cut that guy's hair bad and see what happens.
Oh.
Well, he does, he only goes to one dude.
Yeah.
For all his life.
Yeah, exactly.
He ain't going to like, he ain't experimenting like me.
So like me, I've been to so many damn fucking places to get my hair cut, like styling places, barbers and stuff like that.
In New York, an old Italian dude cutting my hair, barbershop.
You sit down.
And the thing is, I trust, cause my hair grows fast, so you really can't fuck my hair up, right?
Let's say it's not the way I want it, no big deal, right?
If I like you.
It grows out in a second.
It grows back and if I like you, I'll come back again.
We'll work on it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I sat down and you were like, oh man, nice hair.
And I'm like, dude, I just want it nice and tight.
And he's like, don't, don't worry about it.
I got you.
I sat down, fuck it, do what you want to do.
And it was like, bam, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
So if I want to come in, I want to get a haircut and a shave.
What's that run for any customers out there?
Haircut and a shave.
Okay.
Well, I give a little discount with the haircut and the shave.
We charge $30 for a shave.
Okay.
24 for a haircut.
But the haircut can go up because there's like different, like thing, different, you know, well, not if it's longer.
It's like, if you want something super stylized.
Like on my.
My specialty is pompadours.
Like I've been doing like that old school.
I saw that shit.
Okay.
I'm working on that.
That old school pompadour.
I'm working on letting my hair grow on the top.
And the comb over and that real retro look.
Okay.
Well, if you're going to get that, then it takes me a little bit more time.
Right.
Okay.
That starts at about 28 bucks.
That's nothing.
And goes up the top.
I top off.
No, I top off at 35.
That's nothing, dude.
Okay.
Right.
And that's because it's time.
And see, that's what I want to make sure.
I don't care how rich you are.
Okay.
Or, you know, I want to make it.
I want to make it affordable.
So you are coming back.
So let me ask you a question.
What's the difference between a buzz cut?
Like, what do you call a buzz cut?
So you just go.
One blade.
One blade up to a three and three quarter all the way around.
Taper your back.
Clean up the lines out.
Okay.
That's it.
But see, like what we always do.
Like you're the answer to your question is we charge for 30.
Okay.
For a shave.
For a shave.
Okay.
But what I do is like, I'll knock off five bucks.
Okay.
Right.
So if you get a haircut.
And a shave.
So it's like whatever the haircut cost.
Right.
So just go call it.
Call it.
Call it.
Call it 54.
I'm knocking off the four.
Okay.
Right.
You know what?
You're spending money with me.
I'm going to.
And you know what?
I want to do you right.
I want you to.
Right.
But see our shaves too.
Okay.
The haircut.
Straight razor.
Straight razor.
Of course.
Absolutely.
100%.
Of course.
I mean, that's, that's a gig in itself.
Stainless steel.
Huh?
We do like.
So we're going to go get a shave.
We're going to get a shave.
Right.
Right.
We're going to do a shave.
We were thinking about.
I blew this out because I thought maybe, you know, he was saying maybe.
Well, we were thinking.
We're thinking about having a shave here, but it's not really.
We'll come in and get a shave.
You know, we're going to come in.
I'm going to get a haircut.
Mostly.
What's next?
I'm probably going to get a haircut next Thursday.
Okay.
So maybe, you know, we'll drive down here early and you need a, I know you need a haircut, Simon.
And I know you need a haircut.
Right.
Let me see your hair.
I'm pretty good right now.
It's just crying.
Well, if you think that's pretty good.
Okay.
Right.
Listen, this is the.
Listen, this is.
This is the guy with.
Motherfucker pulled off his head.
This is the guy with the wool beanie, man.
Yo, dude.
Motherfucker pulled off his.
He told me this is an English driving cap.
Yeah.
He pulled off his dome cap, but it looks like Beetlejuice with his fucking hair all over the place.
You need a fucking haircut and a shave.
My feathers are a little ruffled.
Big deal.
Now, you need a haircut and a shave.
At the very least.
You don't need a ruffle of more.
At the very least, a shave.
But we're going to, we will have to come down a little early because how long does a shave take?
It takes me about 20 minutes.
It takes me about 20 minutes.
But you want me to go through?
You want me to go through what you get?
Tell me, please.
Okay, listen.
This is what a shave consists of.
You sit down.
I lean you back.
Okay?
First thing you get is a hot towel on your face.
Hot towel.
Okay, right?
Take the hot towel off.
I massage your face.
Okay?
Right?
And you get about five minutes of just a deep, okay, oil massage.
What's the purpose of that?
What it does, number one, okay, right, is when you loosen up the skin and it relaxes.
When somebody's skin is real tight, muscles are real tight, okay, it has a tendency, okay, right?
For.
For the beard, okay, to, you can't stretch out and they're, right, so I want to relax the customer.
For the beard to not fully come out.
Right.
So you can cut it close.
But see, there's two purposes to it, okay?
Because I'm using, I'm using a pre-oil when I massage you.
Okay, right?
So I'm relaxing your muscles.
You're kicking back.
You just got the steam towel.
You relax.
I put people to sleep.
I mean, literally, I've got a blade on their face and they're snoring.
Okay, right?
Right?
Right?
So, so though, I want you to relax.
I want it to be.
It's going to be a life-changing experience when you sit down.
Like, women go in and get their facials and they spend, you know, $20 million a year on this stuff.
Okay, right?
This is the thing for guys.
Right.
Okay, right?
Pre-oil, hot towel.
Pre-oil.
So I put the hot towel.
Relax the fucking face.
Right.
I put the hot towel.
And also the oil, what it does is it softens the beard.
Softens the beard.
Okay, right?
So after I'm done with the massage, okay, I come back and I lather you up.
Lather.
Okay, right?
You use a bowl and a brush?
No, man.
It comes out hot lather.
Hot lather.
Out of the.
Out of the machine, man.
Hot.
Barber saw.
Lather out of the machine.
So I go ahead, lather you up, rub it really good into the face, and there I go.
And that's your first shave.
And I take that off.
Okay, right?
And that's the primary shave with the straight razor.
Then you get another hot towel.
Okay?
So now you're on your second hot towel.
Okay, right?
Right?
Right?
I take the second hot towel off.
Okay?
Right?
And then I use a menthol cream.
Okay?
And I reapply that to the face.
Okay?
With a very, very light, gentle massage.
Okay?
To go over.
Now, the beard's already off.
Okay, right?
Bro, that's erotic, dude.
What you're talking about right there.
That's like porno shit.
Well, it's.
Listen, man.
Damn.
Like I.
That was the last show.
Okay, right?
Yo, but I'm saying.
But I'm saying.
Okay, right.
So I do that.
Okay, right?
Then I come across.
Excuse me.
Okay?
Okay.
And I use a safety razor.
Okay?
Okay.
Okay.
And I go cross grain.
Okay?
On your beard.
Okay, right?
So your beard, after I get that layer off.
Okay?
Is like a baby's ass.
Okay?
I mean, you can go up and down sideways.
And you are not going to feel not one hair on your face.
Right.
Okay?
Right.
Then after I'm done with that, you get another hot towel.
Three hot towels?
Hold on.
I'm not finished.
Hold on.
Hold on a second.
Three hot towels?
Three hot towels.
What?
What's up, brother?
You've been going to the wrong dude, man.
You've been paying top dollar for two hot towels.
My boy, we give you three.
Not one.
Not two.
But three hot motherfucking towels.
Very good.
Okay.
So now, okay, after the third hot towel, okay, now you're basically, the shave is done.
Okay?
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, right?
I apply Bay Rum, which is an old astringent, okay?
Bay Rum, just good, sweet smelling, okay?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know if you guys ever remember that, like what your grandpa used to smell like.
Okay, right?
And I apply it, and that's- Smells like authority.
Right, and it stings the face, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, right?
Right, it stings the face, okay, right?
See, here's that shit.
What do you think about Aqua Velva?
Hold on, man.
Hold on.
Aqua Velva's okay.
That's all right.
He's got the stinging effect.
You gotta go tradition, man.
Come on, come on.
Okay, right?
You gotta go- Okay, you put the Bay Rum on.
It's really rum?
Okay.
Well, I'm sure that there's some alcohol.
I'm sure they've drank it.
Okay, right?
There's a brand called Bay Rum.
Bay Rum is a scent.
Okay.
Okay, right?
There's alcohol in there.
Yeah, absolutely there's alcohol in there.
It's mostly alcohol with Bay Rum oil.
Yeah, if you're ever homeless and you can't afford a regular bottle of vodka, just go to his shop, get a swig of fucking Bay Rum after a shave, and fucking go back panhandling.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
And then after the last hot towel, I apply the Bay Rum.
Wait a minute.
We're on three?
Towel number three?
This is after three.
Don't tell me there's another towel.
There is another towel.
Oh, what?
The last towel.
Oh, shit.
Hold that right.
Whoa, really, Ford?
Hold on.
This is the last towel.
Oh, shit.
Right?
Ice cold out of the freezer.
Oh, shit.
Okay, right?
So your face is burning.
I didn't see that coming.
Okay, right?
Okay, because you just cleaned up.
You just put the astringent on the face.
Okay, right?
And you put that cold, ice cold.
towel on.
Absolutely.
Okay, right?
And you leave it on there.
Absolutely.
The sting of the bay rum because of the alcohol goes away immediately, right?
Oh, fuck.
And it is so fucking refreshing.
Oh my God.
That it's unbelievable.
I don't know how I didn't see that cold towel coming.
Okay, but I'm not talking about...
Makes perfect sense.
We're not talking about cold.
You're talking about freezing cold.
Ice cold.
Freezing cold.
So, it's like one of those schmucks, okay, right?
That takes the jacuzzi and then dives in.
Into a cold punch.
Okay, right?
Into the ice hole, okay, in the Antarctic.
Okay, right?
So, it's that, okay, right?
But only on your face without your balls shriveling up.
Right.
Okay, right?
Right.
No balls shriveling up.
Now, now, now, now, talk about the properties of that.
So, with the hot towel, you opened up the pores, you softened the whiskers, and after you do your thing, the cold towel shrinks it up and closes your pores again.
And closes the astringent into the pores.
Right.
And prepares you for the, you know, that niggity split that's gonna be happening when you go home, right?
So, then, after that's done, okay, right?
Take the towel off and make sure that everything's wiped off.
Jesus.
I take a couple drops, okay, of essential oils, rub it into my hand, apply it onto all over the face, okay, right?
Because, see, you also, okay, want to put the oil back in because I just removed everything.
Yes, right.
Okay, right?
Then, after that's done, okay, I take a towel, wrap it around my hand, put a little baby powder on it, okay, right?
You're still going?
Right.
Well, I want to take the gloss from the oil off your face.
You're a man, okay?
You don't want to look like you just took a couple of hits off the crack pipe.
You know what I'm saying?
No one would notice.
No one would notice in downtown LA.
That's what I'm saying, man.
You know, your business guy, it's like, hey, homie went to lunch and he came back, he's got a shiny face.
What's up?
What the fuck?
Mitch, what did you do?
Okay, right?
Right.
So, you put the powder on, okay, right?
I lift him back up.
He's all finished.
By this time, he looks like he just, like, man, he's done.
Dude, you do all that in 25 minutes?
20 minutes.
20 minutes?
Okay, yeah.
I can't even pay fucking three bills in 20 minutes, and I got the checkbook in front of me, the pen, and the three bills open to the page of how much money I owe.
Every guy that I ever do this to, okay, right, they all tell me, they're like, man, I kind of, like, knocked out.
They look at their watch, and they're going, man, I thought I was here for an hour.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so what I do is, okay, right, when the last thing that I do, because this is something, okay, you know, listen, the guy's got to look clean.
If he did not get a haircut, which you, okay, which I always do the haircut first, okay, right?
But if the guy's just in for a shave, okay, I just make sure that his neck's cleaned up, okay?
So I shave the neckline, take the razor to his neck.
Right, if he's Armenian, you shave a little chest hairs?
No.
You don't fuck with that?
No, I don't.
Listen, bro, my friend, my friend, fuck you!
I'm Persian!
Fuck you!
Exactly.
Okay, right?
I'm not shaving your chest, okay?
Yes.
So I clean up the neck, okay?
I comb the hair, make sure he's looking good, okay?
And off he goes.
Unbelievable.
That's a shave.
Unbelievable.
Okay, and it took me longer to explain it to you, probably, than it actually...
No, no, no, no, no, but you know what?
This is good, though.
But you know what?
Perfect.
And the other thing that I do, the other thing that I do if you're not getting, one of the services that we do, okay, like mandatory, okay, right?
And this is like what...
I mean, no barbershops do this anymore, and I don't know why because this is part of, like, that old school thing that you're talking about.
Okay, man, you gotta clean up...
Ask the guy, can I clean up your eyebrows?
Okay, right?
Beautiful.
How about the nose hairs?
And I get the nose hairs and I clean up the ears, man.
Come on, dude.
Okay, right?
You have to...
I mean, how can you send a guy out?
You just gave him a beautiful haircut.
Right, right.
You just got a haircut, but you gotta fucking snuffle up with his hairs coming out of your nose.
Exactly, and the guy's pulling nostril hairs out, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's like polishing the hood and then leaving the rest alone.
Exactly, man.
I mean, that's the service that I'm talking about.
I mean, you gotta give that.
Right, right, right.
So, so, so, so, okay.
Dude, you just sold me, right?
And I'm pretty sure for all the listeners that are out there, that was very enticing and appetizing and delicious and fucking juicy.
That whole description of it.
Right.
Now, there are a lot of places now.
There's a company called The Art of Shaving.
Right.
They have I've been shaving with a brush and a dish with shaving soap for about 20 years now.
Sure.
A friend of mine used to do it, and I'm like, you know what?
That sounds sexy.
Right.
And I bought myself a nice fucking beaver hair fucking brush.
Well, guys are taking care of themselves.
I've been doing that for a while.
Right.
They're getting away from all of that generic, like, the can of a badge, okay?
Right.
And all that other stuff, okay?
And they're going back to that.
Yeah.
Well, here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
You're a man now, right?
You're not fucking 18 years old.
I hope so.
You're not spending money on fucking 20-year-old girls or whatever.
You're a man.
You're married.
Right.
You probably have kids.
Right.
Or you're at a place in your life where this is part of how you take care of yourself.
Yes, sir.
So it's not a big deal.
You spend fucking $20 or $30 for a fucking soap, for a shaving soap.
That shit lasts you about fucking 10 years.
You know what I mean?
So my thing about shaving, and I get a very close shave by letting my hair grow.
I won't shave for about two or three days.
So I get a nice shave, a nice amount of hair, and then I rock it out.
Right.
But I still would not be able to get the same after, you know, result and sensation as that straight razor shave that you just described.
Right.
The straight razor with the secondary shave with the safety razor.
Okay, so then the safety razor.
What is the safety razor?
Tell me what that is.
It's just a safety razor.
It's like what you shave with today.
Okay, got it.
And you use the safety so you can cross it.
Got it.
See, the one thing about a straight razor, they're not made across.
No.
Okay, right?
No, because see, you're stretching the skin in the opposite direction.
Sure, sure.
Okay, right?
So you use the safety, okay, for your secondary shave.
Got it.
The primary shave is to go down.
Okay, is to go down and you go with the direction.
You go up a little bit, yeah?
Sometimes you can go up a little bit.
Not really.
You can go straight up.
Never ever go up with a straight razor.
Boys and girls, it'll catch your skin, right?
Boys and girls, let Mr. Wynn repeat again.
Never.
Never ever.
Right, because then what you get, can you give me razor burn?
Okay, right?
Ouch.
Yeah, well, you have the chance of cutting yourself.
Okay, right?
When you do that, you're pulling the skin, the hair in the opposite direction.
When you pull the hair in the opposite direction, it lifts, the cuticle lifts the skin up.
Okay, right?
And then you shave off a very little amount of skin.
Okay, right?
And what you do...
You don't want that.
You don't want that.
You end up getting cut up.
Now, when you say a straight razor, even like a Bic, like a Mach 3...
That's not a straight razor.
No, that's a safety razor.
A straight razor is that steel thing that opens up.
I get it.
I get it.
And for health reasons, I want you guys to know this.
The straight razors that we use, okay, are very modern.
We use a straight razor that comes out of Japan.
Okay?
That we can go ahead, for health reasons alone, we can go ahead and they make a disposable razor.
A blade that we can put into it.
Really?
So we...
I change that every single customer.
I couldn't say it better.
That's amazing.
So how much...
You can't say Japanese near Nestor.
So, so, so...
So how...
Okay, so how much does that...
I mean, what's the advantage other than sterile and health reasons to get that individual disposable straight razor in Japan as opposed to...
No, no, no.
The old school...
Japan still is the best steel in the world.
Absolutely.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is...
Better than Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh's done, dude.
It's been done.
Samurai swords, man.
Come on, samurai swords.
But hold on.
So, my question was, what is the expense...
The expense ratio, it's got to be more expensive if you have to buy an individual disposable sliding razor that goes into it, which I know what you're talking about, but as opposed to just having a straight razor that you would just dip into some fucking anestealed, you know...
Well, put it this way.
If I could, I would still go ahead...
With the regular.
And I'd go with the regular, which I actually can do that, but I want to give, once again, my client the best experience.
They can get.
So, I'd rather spend...
I mean, actually, a packet of razors costs me about half the amount of a regular straight razor.
Oh, really?
And the thing is, and that lasts forever.
Where I'll say, strop it and hone it and just keep it sharp, which is cool, but like I said, it's about the experience.
And I want my...
My customer to have...
And that's the best experience I can give them.
We're kind of going into the very, very last micrometer of the show.
And the time has fucking flown by.
I really want to talk about your non-profit organization.
Perfect.
Because we had a whole show planned to discuss the homeless problem with the youth in Los Angeles.
Yes, sir.
And we might...
Should we do this a two-part?
A two-parter?
We can do a two-parter.
We may have to do a two-parter.
So why don't we just start next week?
Well, we can...
Well, no.
I want to talk a little bit about it.
And then what I want to do is I want to talk about his non-profit and we'll do it again next week.
We'll do it again.
I mean, if you're around, you're around next week, right?
Bro, I'm here.
You're from...
You're like two blocks away.
No, I want to talk about the project.
I'm thinking about giving you guys a job application.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
All right.
So briefly, tell me about the project, the Lost Angels Children's Project.
You have a friend of yours, a homie, Aaron...
What's Aaron's last name?
Aaron Valencia.
Aaron Valencia?
Yes.
He's Latino?
No.
He's not?
No, he's not.
He's Jewish with a name like Valencia.
No, I'm kidding.
He's part orange.
Never mind.
Aaron Valencia, he's a hot rod builder.
He builds hot rods and customs.
Custom cars.
Yeah.
So you and him got together and you decided that you wanted to do something, contribute something to the problem of homeless kids on Skid Row.
Yeah.
Yes.
Well, the thing was is me, both me and Aaron, we've talked a lot and, you know, talked about altruism and what we can do to give back.
Right.
We were talking and we kind of had this like low-level depression about, you know, look at this world that we're living in.
Right.
And like Aaron has always been this guy that's like worked at soup kitchens, okay?
Right.
Worked at soup kitchens and whatever.
Right.
Okay, right.
And he was doing something and, you know, and then like I started coming downtown, okay?
And he started hanging out downtown.
And, you know, he built my car.
I got this beautiful custom.
Right.
And me and Aaron were just being fast, fast friends.
Right.
So you hit it off.
And he came to, comes to me and goes, dude, I got it.
I got it.
I know what I got to do and I know what my focus is.
He goes, I'm downtown.
I'm skateboarding around downtown LA.
Okay, right?
And here's all these kids, man, that are born down there, that end up down there.
And he goes, what chance do they have?
Yeah.
They got no chance at all.
He goes, I want to do something for them.
And as soon as he said that to me, okay, I knew that this was the focus for the rest of my life.
Okay, right?
What can I do to give back?
Okay, right?
To these kids that have no chance whatsoever.
Right.
And what Aaron comes up with, which is a brilliant idea.
Right.
Okay, right?
Since he is just this major car builder, he goes, I'm going to build a car and donate it to the cause.
Right.
Right?
And I go, tell me about this car.
Tell me about the car because we have about a minute and 20 seconds.
It's a roadster.
It's a bad ass car.
It's a custom built hot rod.
It is a custom built.
There's pictures of the process of it being built on lostangelschildrensproject.com.
You can go look at it.
You can see exactly what's going on.
There's going to be an auction for this car at the Valencia.
We're going to have a raffle.
A raffle.
Okay.
A raffle, not an auction.
A raffle.
You can buy a ticket.
You can go to the website.
Tickets are going to be about $20 you said? $20. $20.
Okay, right?
For a chance to get like about a $50,000 car.
And how much money are you trying to raise to get that car to break even?
Whatever we can get.
No, no.
You want to break even at least.
Well, see, we've got a lot of donations and whatever, but the thing is How much money are you trying to raise here?
I'd love to get 60 Gs.
60 Gs.
So that's That's 3,000 tickets.
We can do 3,000 tickets.
Yes.
You can do this.
Yes.
We can do this.
But the auction, here's the thing.
Tell me about the auction real quick.
The auction is on the 30th.
The 30th of August at the Valencia.
Oh, Ventura.
Ventura Nationals.
Hot Rod Show.
Okay, Hot Rod and Custom Show.
Okay, so Google Ventura Nationals Hot Rod Show.
Absolutely.
Go to LostAngelsChildrensProject.com Check this shit out.
We're going to do a little fucking promo.
We're going to have a little commercial running throughout from now until August 30th on Skid Row Studios.com Go to the website.
Buy a motherfucking ticket.
Two or three or four.
Increase your chances of winning this dope ass Hot Rod.
And you know, it's going to go to a good cause.
You're going to come back next week.
You're going to come back next week.
I'm here next week.
Next Thursday.
We're going to continue the barbering discussion and we're going to talk about the homeless problem specifically with kids in Skid Row Studio.
Maybe I can bring Aaron down with me.
Bring Aaron.
Bring Aaron next week.
Aaron's going to come down.
He'll talk about his thing.
Thank you, Simon.
Thank you, Rich Corbin.
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