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Baltimore police, Bruce Jenner, Nepal earthquake, and biblical prophecies discussion

55m 47s
💾 564 MB
📅 2015-05-03
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Duration: 55m 47s
Size: 564 MB
Aired: 2015-05-03
Host: Sean, Denise
A couple discusses Baltimore police brutality, Bruce Jenner's transition, the Nepal earthquake, and biblical prophecies, with promotional segments for Positive Light Ministries kayaking event and other community programs.

📄 Transcript [show]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. what they sound like. You can pick your child out in a group anytime. Yeah, yeah. And she knew that that was her kid, and she didn't care what anybody thought. You know, she was just getting him away from that. She didn't want a dead kid, yes. That's right. And I seen an interesting website, and I'm not sure what it was, but it was kind of depicting that black people are bad people, and I don't know if they were trying to make excuses that that's why bad things are happening to them. But I can't remember the name of the, when I was doing some research on the Baltimore thing, it was interesting because they're not wrong, but they were just showing black kids doing, what do they call that? The flash. Flash mob. Yeah, flash mobs and fights breaking out, but all races of kids are doing those things. Right, it's not just, that might just be the one that was on the thing. No, they were singling out, the black children. But that's what I'm saying, those flash mobs and stuff, I mean, they've been from kids to adults. Yeah, and trouble breaks out. And it's just been all kinds of, you know, just some of them have been peaceful things where, you know, they've sort of like on the subways and stuff, with all of a sudden, they just kind of stood up and started doing, you know, dancing. And it was all in good jest. Nobody got hurt. It was just something that happened. They all stood up and started doing the margarita. Whatever. How do you say it? Margarita. Whatever, you know. But I'm just saying, I think though that, there's a lot, I think that our society that we're in now, there's a lot of kids that get into a lot of trouble. You know, and I think that what's happening right now is so much is focused on the black race out there. That's what's being publicized out there. But, you know, I think, and mostly it's in the poor communities, whether it's whites, Hispanics, whatever it is, you know, because you know there's gangs in every race out there. This web that I was talking about, they were kind of saying that, that basically kind of trying to say that black people are using the culture thing, or not the culture thing, but the, you know, the system being against them as a, Oh, as an excuse to do things? As an excuse to do wrong. And blaming, blaming their wrong deeds on society, and not having a dad or a mom or any, anybody that they can look up to or work or anything like that. But basically they were saying that. That's part of what they were saying about that young man that that lady went out. She's a single mom of six kids. And, you know, for whatever reason, who knows why she's got six kids she's raising by herself. But she was in touch with what was going on with her kids. And maybe he didn't, the son didn't have a strong, male role model. Who knows if there's another man, you know, in his life, whether that be a coach, a teacher, an uncle, maybe his father or whatever. They never bring any of that out. They just say that's a single mom with six kids. But, you know, some of those single moms are pretty tough. You know, they are a very good job, you know, and they, a lot of them, a lot of them are. I think that's an excuse. Now, I do think not having both parents in a home does contribute to, um, to the balance. Because I think that what, what one, a woman sees things one way and a man sees things a little bit different. So you have that balance that goes on in there. And I mean, I know just from our personal experiences, things that, that I would say, no, that's, that's just not going to happen. You're like, no, that'll be fine. Other things you say, it's, you know, okay or whatever. And I'm like, you know, this, you know, it's just, we've seen the balance go on just with, with, you know, in our family that, you know, and then, you know, both you and I were fortunate enough to be, you know, to be raised with a mom and a dad in our household. Um, but I think it takes a little of both, you know, to help raise, raise these kids. And I think, you know, that contributes not just to the black race, it contributes to anybody else that doesn't have two parents in the household. Yeah. There's a lot of, um, irreversible, um, damage that's already been done in my opinion. And I don't believe that any of it's going to be fixed until, um, Christ returns. And I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't believe that we can fix it. I mean, we sit in here and we talk about Skid Row and we talk about solutions and, and we talk about all these things, but I don't believe really in my heart that there is a fix. I don't, I don't really believe so. I, I, I'd have to agree with you that I don't think there's a fix because, um, um, the whole world, the whole world doesn't, you know, there's so many that don't, don't believe in, in Jesus. Um, don't believe in, um, don't believe in anything and anything. They're just selfish and not for themselves. And when you have selfish people out for themselves, they don't care who they walk on, who they step on, who they spit on as long as they get, you know where they're going. What they think they want for the moment. Right. And, and that's, and, and so there isn't a fix for something because until you can't fix somebody else's attitude. And so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, or somebody else's attitude or somebody else's actions. And that's, that's, that's what the, that's what the root is of what's going on. It's, it's what's inside that other person. So it doesn't really have in my mind anything to do with necessarily the person that's down there on skid row. I think is what caused them to be down there on skid row. What's causing the people they interact with. Whether that be people on skid row or the people that are just down there shopping and doing their thing. Me, me myself. I think that a lot of people are on skid row because of oppression. And, not having the same opportunities as others, not the same liberties as other people. I really believe that in my heart. I believe that the oppressions that have contributed to mental problems and incarceration. I think also that the drugs that are out there nowadays have just fried some people's brains so bad that they aren't able to function in society anymore because they just don't have it upstairs. And they may have had some issues beforehand, and those drugs have just brought out so much. Enhanced everything. Yeah, just enhanced it all. You can go down there, and I don't even think they realize what they're doing. They just don't have that. So now they are mentally challenged. Well, I know. A lot of people that haven't taken any drugs that don't know what they're doing. I mean, mentally, they're just... But I mean, I think they may have been... Can you say buttholes on the radio? But I think maybe there's some of these where, you know, functioning adults or functioning kids and stuff, and they just got hooked up on the wrong stuff, whether it was because a pimp turned them on out, and now they're just so hooked on it that they don't have no need for them no longer, or, you know, they're excited. They experimented. I mean, you know, one time with something, and maybe they just got so hooked on it that it just says... Yeah, I think drugs have contributed to... And there's so much... Because they're so much stronger and so much disabilitating. And, you know, when I was growing up, they didn't have a recreational drug, you know? I mean, you know, it was like people, oh, I can use Coke just on the weekends because it, you know, just makes me feel good, and I can party real well. Well, I think they did. They did, and I don't think you really understood. But I think a lot of people use that. Maybe I just didn't, you know. I think abuse it, I mean... Well, not abuse, but I think a lot of people even back in those days used drugs as, like you say, for recreation, and it maybe went further than that, but I don't think it's any... I mean, yeah, it's more... It's more known now, and I mean, it's more of the... Because there's more people, and... But I think also because the wealthy do it, it became more acceptable in society. It wasn't the radicals that were out there doing LSD, heroin. It was more of the wealthy that started doing more and more of these things, and it became acceptable. I mean, it was people on Wall Street. It was, I mean, look what you got mayors that's been, you know, arrested and stuff for doing it, and that's just the ones that got caught. Who knows who didn't get caught that did it, where I think 40 years ago, it just would have been, you know, alcohol was what was abused more than, not some of these hardline drugs. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. things that they've always done. I think as a people and not just black people, but as a society that we have to confront it a different way. We just have to confront it a different way. You were telling me about that. Is it a district attorney lady? I'm not sure exactly what her title was. It was the, I think she's the prosecuting attorney or whatever. She's a young 26 year old woman and she's going to be who is actually going to prosecute the Baltimore police. And when I heard her on the radio, I was really amazed by how much confidence she had and how, how the way she rattled off her facts. I mean, she did some, somebody in that department did some research and I mean, did it quickly, you know, to try to, you know, hopefully resolve something. I mean, one of the things the news commentator was talking about, they've never seen charges brought that quickly against the police department. I mean, they buried the guy. You know, on one day and less than a week later, they've got charges against six police officers. I mean, you just don't, if it had been here in LA, it had been six months, maybe they had charges brought up against them. You know, they just don't move. Maybe, you know, whether they get a conviction or not, but they had their, you know, that's a different, you know, that's not necessarily up to, I mean, if they go before a jury and who knows who's on that and how else it goes. Yeah. Those, those kinds of politics, but those are the kinds of things that have created this, you know, this problem basically is that, that cops or people are, you know, in, in public offices are doing things and then, you know, getting caught for it. And then, um, the prosecutor, the prosecutors are not following through or the good old boys, uh, system are letting those people off. And that's why this keeps happening. Well, on Friday, when she Thursday or Friday came in, I heard her speak on, um, they had by later that evening on the news, when I was coming home, I heard they had five officers already, already in jail. I mean, they just didn't, it wasn't like, okay, we filed these charges and we're going to put you on desk duty and stuff until we do. What do they call it? Um, um, um, yeah, leave with pay. Yeah. And they usually do it with pay. They may be out now cause they passed bail, but their police union was having some issues with it because they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they weren't dragging their feet, you know, and, and you hear a lot of the, the, uh, community leaders and a lot of, um, prominent people in, in Baltimore that are saying, you know, we built the city with our backs. We are not going to let, you know, anybody take this down and take it away from us. I mean, it's, you know, it's not a, not a wealthy city, you know, it's, it's, it's an inner city, you know, like most of them are, but they had some really prominent people that were talking, some athletes that made their, um, you know, made their careers, they're in Baltimore and they were like, you know, this, this is, this is my town and I'm not going to let the rioters or the police take anything away that we've built back up again, you know? And I think by them filing suit and charging those police officers, you know, and we haven't got all the facts or anything, you know, we get bits and pieces from the news and everything else, but at least to me, they're moving forward and not dragging their feet on what's going on so that they can try to get some closure and try to get some things resolved. Um, and hopefully whatever comes out one way or another, the police officers are not going to be able to, um, abuse people. Oh, well, I don't know, but I mean, it, it all depends on how this thing is handled and what the verdict is. And you know, it was really, you know, why I think this lady is, is, um, and you know, I, I don't know her from Adam, um, but why I, I think that she has an open mind at going after the truth and trying to prosecute. Mom and dad are both police officer. Her grandfather was a police officer. She has, she comes from a family with uncles and aunts that are in the police force. So she understands she's grown up with, with the, the attitude and stuff of being a police officer and doing the right thing. And, and she just happened to go to law school and go that direction. And she's, she's now going against, you know, she's not working. She's going against prosecuting the, you know, the, the police. Okay. Now, what was this thing? And Sean, I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you about this. And I, I hadn't really heard it before, but the nickel ride. Well, I, and I heard it called something else. And they, what they do is they throw people in the paddy wagon for, you know, those vans and they're shackled, you know, handcuff on their feet and handcuff on their, um, and on their wrists and stuff. And normally they're supposed to restrain you. They put you in the, in the seat there and they chain you to the pole down the middle and, and, you know, the sides or something. So, but what they like to do for a little bit of extra punishment, is throw you in there and just kind of forget. I think torture. I mean, when, when, uh, Shantae was telling me about what happens in those situations and what you were describing, that's torture. Well, and they, they take the, let me take the quick stop. So you slam up against the thing and a quick start off, then you slam up against the back of it. Then we're going to take a, you know, a fast, you know, right turn a fast left turn. So basically you're like in a washing machine, just being wished all around. This guy got picked up and they're saying that the, the, the knife I, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, you heard it was a switchblade. Then you heard it was attached to his belt, but the lady said it was perfectly legal for him to be carrying that. From what she was saying that there wasn't any apparent reason that he was stopped for that, that he wasn't doing anything. Okay. Now I also heard that he was selling drugs. Is he a drug dealer? I don't know that part. And I hadn't heard that doesn't mean, you know, I just hadn't heard that. And, and maybe, maybe that's, maybe they caught him someplace else and, or whatever. No, I, I, they picked up the knife. I picked him up for the knife and that's what I heard. But I, I, I, whatever they pick you up for to me, it does not warrant anybody. I don't care if you just shot and killed somebody still does not warrant you, you, you driving with that, torturing them or putting on that type of thing, because you're not the judge out there, that driver, those cops, the arresting cops, they're not the judge and jury. Their job is to get him to the police station and get him and get him in the jail. Somebody else is supposed to go there and prove whether he was guilty or innocent. You know, doing something wrong. And I think what's happening is, is we've got some police officers out there that think that they're the judge and jury, and they're just going to take care of it right now. I don't think it's even that. I think they're just that they're just straight racist is what I believe. I believe that they're just straight racist and they hate and they want to kill and they want to torture and they want to put like, like the Klan hanging, you know, going out, you know, 50 of them going out to some cabin in the back. Woods, where there's a man and one of his wife and their two kids and 50 of them taking that man out and hanging him, lynching him. Right in the tree in the front yard. So the family all sees him. And then everybody else sees it. And then they have have that fear that's put in everybody else. And I think and there's been talk of even L.A. having the sheriff department being a goon squad, a gang, a sheriff's gang that. Sheriff Baca has been up on, you know, there's. Been some some. You know, cases that's been abroad him and. That's it. Yeah. And at the jail houses, you know. Yeah, there's like they're going through that. They're going through that whole thing right now at the jail houses. It's the fear, the fear tactics that they want people to to be scared and to to fear. But I think that that's going when you when you have that kind of power, I believe that it goes even further. It corrupts. And then you can't just stay at one level when you have that kind of power going on. It always, you know. Well, to me, it's no different than the gangs that are out there. You know, you've got that's what the gangs do. They go around to extorting, you know, extorting money and stuff. And, you know, it's like we're going to hurt one store owner down through there because that one just got made the example. And if you don't pay up the money, then we're going to hurt you or your family or something. And to me, it's the same principle, the same principles behind it. You know, you're. You're managing by fear. And that's not the way you manage. You know, I'm not here anywhere. I shouldn't be here in a world power. It's just so it's I guess so. But you know, doggone well, your job and my job, if the managers there, the companies managed by fear on that type of stuff that they be sitting down at the labor board quicker, the union hall quicker than anybody could blink an eye saying you can't do that. That's not the way you strong. I have to. This. I disagree with you. I think a lot of them, it's a lot more subtle than what we're talking about. Oh, but that's subtle. I mean, I think they do that. Yeah. But you get less productivity out of people. That's another topic we're getting on to. But I think it is subtle. You being in management, right? But upper management, the police right now, they're not even being subtle about it. It's just being straight. It's just blatant. What I'm what I'm saying is this one prosecutor that you're talking about, a district attorney or. I can't remember what her title was. Yeah. Is that is the fix it? In my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. In my opinion, it's either a lot of people have to die or the. Justice system has to step up and do what they're there to do and not not give anybody the free ticket, you know, get out of jail free card. They have to step up and they have to start persecuting these people who are committing murder, just like they were out on the street. They're not in in your little. A blue coat family that these people are murderers and they need to be treated as such. Well, I think it's time to see what's going on. All right. It's time to take a look at what's going on and where you can get it going on. The best impressions start at home. Elite furniture for affordable prices. For more information, you can contact Richard Boyd at 951-214-8555. 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It's always amazing what that does for a person. And we need food donations and money donations. So if you're within earshot, think about it. Visit us on our website. Yeah, get that information. Okay, I think we're going to shift gears here. Very interesting on Baltimore and the things going on. And I think that the, like I said, the solution to these problems is either a lot of people have to die or the, I guess. I think it's either people have to die or the police departments and the communities and the justice system needs to be reworked. And for needs to be reworked. I don't think it even has to be reworked. I just think that they have to be applied. It just needs to be administered the way it was meant to be. And I think that's the way it was meant to be. Applied. Applied. Okay. And then if they apply it and, and persecute these people as for what they are. Yeah. Yeah. Not persecuting. Well, they should do that too. But prosecute these people for the crimes that they're committing. Then I don't believe that this will continue. I believe if there's consequences behind those actions, I believe those people will not make a mistake saying, oh, that was, I thought it was my taser. I thought it was my taser. I think that, and I'm not trying to justify any bad person out there, no matter what color they are. If you're bad and you want to confront a police, I think they should shoot your butt. They should kill you. If it is just. Okay. But all this, all these mistakes going on, there's too many happening and too many of them happening to unarmed black people. And I think not to take anything away from there is good police out there. And they do have a tough, tough job of, you know, they don't know when they're walking up into a situation who may or may not be armed, what their mental state is or anything else, but they are trained or if there haven't been trained, then that's a problem. Also, that's what I think the big problem is. I think a lot of them are just arrogant and they're, they're walking into situations and then that's, that's the solution. I'm going to pull my gun and I'm going to shoot you. And it doesn't make any difference what the situation is. They're arrogant and they're not, they're not using their training, even if they have it. Well, and I know it's possible to train people because you see the military, you've seen them so many times train where they bust into these places and they don't shoot the person that's there because they made that split decision to say whether that was enemy or whether that was friendly. Now, there has been some fires and things that go on, but nowhere near in a war zone of what's going on in our own backyards of the shootings. And I mean, you would think in a war zone, when, well, you'd think that, but I'm researching, there's a lot of crazy stuff going out there and there's a lot of bad people out there with guns doing bad things. But, but like you say, there are those are getting shot. Yeah. There's a, there's a choice to make and, and, and just a judgment call that you have to make as a, as a trained police officer that will save lives. And I believe if, if you make those mistakes and you don't follow protocol that you should be fried. Well, you should be set in a chair. You should be set in a chair. Ejected twice, ejected with, with the needle twice, one in each arm and just something really bad, you know, tickle your feet or something, but, you know, strap, strap you down, tickle your feet and inject you. But something really super bad should happen to those who are just taking their power for granted. Okay. I want to talk a little bit. I mean, there's this, gosh, time is just flying. Time is just flying. Sure is. And, and, and I'm a Christian man. And there's some, some crazy stuff going on. I, I, the deterioration of the United States is, it's happening rapidly. And I think I'm going to go to this Bruce Jenner thing and, and how it appalls me. And it disgusts me to, to see that. And I, I didn't watch the interview. I just see it on the news. But from what I hear, the man is, was really, really sad and thinking and wanting to, to be a woman or not figuring stuff out. And, and this has led him to change from a man and to a woman. And these things are an abomination. I mean, just looking at that, it looks like an abomination to me, but in the Bible, God says it is an abomination. Those are not my words. I mean, even though I think it, those are not my words. I'm not just coming with this up with this on, on my own. God says it's an abomination. And I just kind of wanted to, well, one of the things that made me kind of wonder when I was doing some research on it, you know, he says that he's had these feelings where, you know, he was a woman trapped in a man's body, but yet he married a woman. He fathered numerous kids. So obviously he took on the role of what a male does. But then I was also reading, which made me wonder, was there something different going on? Cause it said as early as 1980, he was taking female hormones. Now was that after the Olympics? The Olympics was 1976. So he was a young man. What would a young man be wanting female hormones for? You know, I mean, if, if you're starting to feel like a woman, if anything else you'd want to, in my mind, take male hormones to make you feel more virile and stuff. I just can't, you know, so I, I, I struggle with, you know, was, was, was he contributing to some, some thoughts in there, you know, has society said, because some people have a little bit more, um, feminine parts to them. Some men are aspects and some women have, you know, some more masculine ones on there. So if you have, if you're a man and you have some feminine feelings or something like that, you know, and you, you know, why would you take more female hormones? I mean, at that age, he was only in his twenties. And so what is, what, you know, I can't imagine why. I think in, I mean, I'm a Christian man, so I have to lean toward the Bible and that's what I'm going to do because the Bible is proven. I don't care who you think you are, what you want to say. You cannot hold a candle up and say that the Bible is not proven itself. It it's been tested for as long as I know, as long as you know, and it is, it's been tested to be true. And that's another discussion that Dead Sea Scrolls and Denise was saying it has every book except for Esther. Every book was on the Dead Sea Scrolls as was written on there. Some parts. Yeah. I'm on there except for the book of Esther. And the Bible I read, um, people say, I'm not sure how, how I'm sure these facts are, but it's 27% prophecy. And what God is, what God is doing in this book is he's prophesying certain things like the destruction of Israel or even the coming home or, or, or Israel becoming a nation. Again, these things have been prophesied hundreds of years before it even happened. Well, even the, even the birth of Jesus though, yes, that death and the death and the bloodline of how it came through. Right. You know, I mean, it was down to, I mean, prophesied to the, to the letter point of where it was going to be born through the bloodline wrong. Even with the crucifixion of Christ to the letter, no mistakes. And, and those, those facts or those prophecies are in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Who, uh, you know, they're authentic, you know, they're tested, you know, when I was doing the research on it, they said that the authenticity of those is just a proven fact, right? It didn't say how they proved it, right? Or whatever, They're not sure who the author. Right. They just said that these, these are just a proven fact that these are real. They're, they're, they're authentic. They're authentic. It's, you know, and there's no one that they could find to dispute that these were not authentic written in the, in the era. And that was over a vast number of years that these things have been written. But what I'm getting at is that in the book of Isaiah, it prophesies, prophesy the, the death of Jesus Christ. And it's not just the death of Jesus Christ. It's the death of Jesus Christ. It's the death of Jesus Christ. It's the death of Jesus Christ. And if it's not to the letter, then it's not God's word. Okay. If there's one mistake in those areas, then it is not God's word. Now, um, I said that to say this is that Bruce Jenner, he's having some issues or had some issues and he's wondering now, I don't know if he sought after Christ or I don't know what his demeanor is or, or his thinking. And a lot of people now they, they can, they can take what I just said and there's evidence and they can follow it up on their own and they can find out how true this is and, and, and the various things that not it's history. You can check history on the Bible in the Bible. You can do that. Can't you knees? Yeah. You can check history, the scholars and they check their facts or what they find, um, you know, with their diggings. It, and that stuff, they check it against the Bible because it's just not wrong. And you can find that, you know, find out a lot of stuff out on your own, but people don't want to know the truth because they don't want to be right. They don't want to do right. They just want to do what they want to do. And that's this thing with, with Bruce Jenner is that his happiness and his peace was right there. But that's not, that's not what he chose to be and not what he chose to do. Now, in my opinion, I don't believe the man or the woman, or like I say, the it, I don't think it's gonna be happy. I don't think changing it's sex from a man to a woman. I, do you believe that that it's going to make him happy? no, cause I think that, that there's other issues. I mean, and this is my personal opinion. Anybody living in a Kardashian, in home or anything that make anybody go crazy, you know, or, or be confused, you know, on what's going on. So why do you think, because there's no morals, it's all about money. It's all about, uh, attention, media attention and that whole thing. Well, I think a lot of, I think a lot of that has is what goes on in it. And the, the opinion for, um, wanting to be in, in the, um, public eye constantly and constantly. So whatever drama they can stir on up, well, that's about, you know, it's all about, but do you think Bruce Jenner's whole thing is about money? Because I mean, he's going on and I'm sure he made millions off these interviews and everything else. I don't think his is necessarily about money. Cause to me, I, I think, you know, I looked at Bruce Jenner as, you know, a gold medal triathlon, you know, or biathlon, whatever it was, the six different sports that he went to. And I can remember watching him in the 76 Olympics. To me, I thought that was a great man to be able to do what he could do. Mm-hmm. Going to be a woman. That, that to me was like almost, you know, that was like stripping him of his gold medals and kicking him off to the side. Make it, you know, I mean, to me, I would think I have a lot less respect for him than I did. I have like this image of, now there's a lot of people, you saying that Denise, there's a lot of people out there going, that's stupid woman. She has no idea what she's talking about because people feel a certain way. And I, I mean, I can relate to people feeling a certain way. You know, that to me, you know, I'm going to take, take it back to a feeling, you know, certain ways about certain things. Does that mean because, you know, if you're a man and you like, you know, you like the way women look and stuff, I'm going to act upon my actions. So, you know, I'm going to go outside of the marriage or every woman I see, I'm going to just, you know, throw them down the ground. I'm going to act upon how I feel. Or am I going to try to do what's, you know, that's, that's a problem with pedophiles. That's a problem with what's going on in a lot of the Catholic churches is they're, they're acting upon a feeling. You know, um, you know, the heart is wicked. It is. And I don't, you know, we were given, you know, God gave us a brain to decipher between white, right and wrong. Now we don't always do what is right because of, of, of the sin, you know, and our flesh, but human being human, you know what I mean? And that goes all the way back to Adam and Eve, you know, but to just do whatever feels good, whatever you feel like, you know, we're, we're above that. That's like an animal, an animal just does, you know, they do not have that ability. You know, they just do whatever they think. It's like a fire. I'm going to run, you know, not towards the fire away from a fire. That's why they say when the tsunamis were, you know, coming so many of the animals they took to run to high ground. They knew that they didn't do that because someone taught them. They did that because that was their instinct. They know that the salmon have an instinct to, to go, you know, up the stream to spawn. And if the whales are going to go, you know, where do you, go whale watching that they're going to do whatever the birds go and fly South. That's an instinct. We are better than that as human beings. So why do we want to disagree? Well, disagree. But to me, you're stooping to the level of what an animal is. And that God, God gave us to be above the animals. And that even says that in the Bible that we are to, you know, that's why he let Adam name every one of the animals. Well, he put him above that. Back to, uh, Bruce, Jenner and stuff that I believe that he will still be tormented, but I believe that he will figure out a way to make a dollar in this tormenting or, um, this whole saga. Um, he is going to be because of the nature of, of, um, society today, um, that there are going to be a lot of rich people, uh, because of this, this saga. And, but he's also promoting something that is very evil. But, um, could you read that, that scripture that, uh, Isaiah five 20 Denise said, uh, we had discussed earlier. I got to get it. Yeah. But my phone is, my phone is getting all these pop ups in here anyway. But, um, these times, um, the Bible says that, that good will be called evil and evil will be called good. Um, I'm pretty sure, um, I'm pretty sure that the judges, the Supreme court will, uh, prove, um, uh, approve gay marriages and all those things that go with it because of, in my, my opinion, the decline of, of what God has put, um, in order that an evil force is designed to disrupt and, and take it apart. You're talking again. Oh, so anyway, um, good being evil and, and evil being called good in today's society. And I'm, I'm referring to homosexuality and, and how they look down upon you. If you don't, you know, you don't, you don't have to attack them or anything like that. But if you disagree with that, or you can accept that, I believe a lot of the churches that refuse to marry them. I believe a lot of the establishments will not, will be sued and put out of business. Good Christian people are going to suffer because of this thing going on. Okay. Say a five 20, uh, the new King James or the King James version says, well, unto them that call evil, good and good evil put that put darkness for light and light for darkness that put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Okay. Now what, what I believe is that, you know, they can't try to be like a joint union. They are trying, like, I'm just saying as far as getting a benefits and that whole thing, they are trying to change the word of God. They are trying to take something that is an abomination to God and give it light. They're trying to make it like, well, it's dark. It used to be darkness. It's a society to me. It's still darkness, but they're trying to flip things around, not flip it, but it's a counterfeit of it. So they're trying to play that. Just like God set it up. They're trying to play this thing. Like it is the right thing because that's what they want, but it's a counterfeit for what God has set up. Well, you know, and it says, you know, bitter will be sweet and sweet will be bitter. And so to me, when I read, read that is okay. He's saying I'm bitter and I'm going to try to go for what sweet. Well, what it says when you try to go for what sweet, when you try to do it outside of what God wants you to do, it's only bitter still. And it's still manmade. And it's, you know, it kind of reminds me back to Adam and Eve. If you want to go to God said, you can eat anything you want to eat except for that one tree, that one fruit, you know, and because of the weakness of the flesh and a free will and a free will, because we were given that free will. We ate that. I know that fruit was probably really good. You know, a good enough that she said here, Adam, eat it too, because I don't want to be the only one. So here you eat it too. You know, and what happened then that sweetness turned into bitter and, and, you know, everybody carries, carries that, you know, as I remember that DNA in with you, that you have that, that, that mark on you. Okay. What? So basically what the devil does is he, he counterfeits what God has already done and tries to make it appear to be the right thing. But this gay marriage and oppression, this approval of, of gay marriage and these, these unions, it is of man and it is a counterfeit of what God has done. So, I mean, you can just, you know, figure that out on your own. I guess, you know, like I said with like Bruce Jenner, where I struggle with this, that you felt like you were a woman, but why did you marry then? And you're attracted to other women, but yet he's not homosexual. You know, you fathered, you know, five or six kids. Well, you might find out that he was homosexual. He's gay. He's gay. He's just not letting that fact be known. But I mean, he buried twice. He had two different women and they weren't, they weren't, um, you know, kick of the road type of women and stuff. You know, he married, you know, he married women that, you know, were prominent, prominent women or, you know, one was an actress and then you married, you know, um, Kris Kardashian. How do you know he didn't have any homosexual lovers? Well, you don't, but I mean, you don't, but I, you know, what he says is I'm still attracted to women. You know, and, and they call those lesbians. But the thing is, is unless you go and you have, unless you go and you have, you know, an operation change and then you can't have the same sexual pleasures that you had before be where you used to do it because you don't have the same apparatus. I've been told on many occasions that I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body. You know, that's what I've been told. And I kind of believe it, but you like, because you like women. You just like to hang around with the women. I mean, but that's basically, and I don't know, it's like twisted, crazy twisted. Let's, let's go on to something we don't have a lot of time, but I wanted to touch on the tragic tragedy in Nepal, Nepal, Kathmandu. Yeah. You know, they had that 7.9 earthquake through there and it was like very, very destructive. You know, one of the things I was reading up on, on, on that country is it's such a poor country. It was 7.9? 7.9. It's the worst. It's the worst. It's the worst earthquake that they've had in the South Asian area in 80 years. And 80 years ago, which was 1934, then an 8.0 in that same country. But it didn't demolish any of their holy spots or temples or anything? It did. It did that. They rebuilt them or? No, it's, it's, that country is very long. I guess you could say when you looked at it. So, and if you looked at where the, where the earthquakes have hit, they've, they've been sporadic. And most of them are around the, the coastal lines, you know? So, but, but that earthquake there was, like I said, very devastating. There's been five major ones since 1934. That where a major is 6.5 to that 8.0. And how many people died? Did we get that? Oh, it said, right now it's, it's like over 6,300 have died. But what kind of amazed me was, you know, not only it said it toppled a lot of the 19th century towers that were in Kathmandu, and a lot of the other areas, but it damaged the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the structure. But it damaged 1.3 million houses. Damaged them. Completely damaged. And it was something like one point something else that were partially damaged. And then it was 10,394 government buildings have collapsed all the way. Which tells you that you know, But, you know, obviously, they're codes, you know. But, I mean, that country has nothing to offer except for it was a tourist attraction. They had so many of those old temples and towers and had Mount Everest, which, you know, they had the avalanche on Mount Everest. That 10 were killed on that area there. But, you know, there's just nothing left hardly in that area. Okay, now, it's destruction of biblical proportion. It's crazy. And see, a lot of us, like you say, is this God's fury on a people that worship idols? And I'm not sure what the ratio is as far as idol worship there. And I'm not even sure what they believe. Are they Hindus? I think they're Hindus because it talked about. The Hinduism or something like that. So, I think they're Hindu because they are down on that part of the area there that, you know, that is a lot of Hindus. And so, that's what I got out of the research of what their main structure was. But, you know, it didn't precisely say that. But that's where the Hindu temples and towers that were, I mean, that's what they showed was. And it said that that's, you know. Okay, can you read that? Romans 8, 22. And I don't know if you want to read a couple of verses before so we can get the context of what it's saying. A couple of verses afterwards. But when I think of that, and I'm not going to say that this is God's doing. Denise was telling me in church today, the pastor was saying that it's not usually God's doing. But it's the action or the consequence of people doing the wrong thing. And then God basically gets impatient. And then. And destroys the thing that's going on. And, you know, that sounds like a fairy tale to a lot of people. But the scripture that she's about to read kind of explains in what I believe are the beginning of the end times. There's a lot of things that are supposed to happen in the end times. Which a lot of people do not want to accept or believe because we just want to stay in our own ways. Okay. So let's start at verse 20. It says, For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subject it in hope. Because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of the corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and the labor with the birth pangs together unto now. Not only that, but we also who have the first fruit. Of the spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves. Okay. What that is basically saying. And I'm no theologian by no stretch of the imagination. But what I'm saying is that God's saying that even the earth is going to be revamped. And I'll say just like our bodies are getting older and moaning in old age. That those who believe in Christ will have new bodies. And the earth. There. It. Did that say about the earthquakes in diverse places? No. But anyway, the Bible does talk about earthquakes and phantoms being in diverse places of the earth. And that these very things that are happening will happen. And they are happening. So, but it's the beginning of the end, basically. And what we need to do is we need to acknowledge Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. And we need to accept that. and do the things that are written in this book that were put there for learning and knowledge and good and not evil. So with that, I'd like to thank Denise and brilliant job, Denise, you are a talker. But I'd like to also say that we are never more like our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, than when we are loving, forgiving, and creating. Thank you. Thank you.