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Family reunion discussion, biblical teaching, and plans for Atlanta reunion

1h 53m 15s
💾 1.1 GB
📅 2015-09-13
📺 Video recording
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Duration: 1h 53m 15s
Size: 1.1 GB
Aired: 2015-09-13
Host: Willis Boyd, Shante Duncan
Guests: Georgia Mae Jones, Tony Ray Jones, Roosevelt Jones, Amber Jones, Tyra Jones, Denise Boyd
The hosts and guests discuss a family reunion in Shreveport, Louisiana, share personal memories and family history, explore biblical passages about Jesus being God, debate the importance of teaching younger generations about family heritage and history, and plan for an upcoming reunion in Atlanta. The show also includes a slideshow of family photos with music playing in the background.

🎵 Playlist

13:00 Baby Please Don't Go — Big Joe Williams 🎧
17:00 Jambalaya (On The Bayou) — Fats Domino 🎧
19:00 Nutbush City Limits — Ike & Tina Turner 🎧
20:00 Lucille/Bama Lama Bama Loo/Wooly Bully/Da Doo Ron Ron — Little Richard, The Crystals, The Pharaohs & Sam the Sham & The Pharaohs 🎧
21:00 Lucille — Little Richard 🎧
22:00 Good Golly Miss Molly — Little Richard 🎧
24:00 Maybellene — Chuck Berry 🎧
26:00 No Particular Place To Go — Chuck Berry 🎧
29:00 Family Affair — Sly & The Family Stone 🎧

📄 Transcript [show]

Hi, you have tuned in to Positive Perspective, one of the most interesting hours on web radio, where we shine the positive light of Jesus Christ on music, scripture, community, and world issues. We're being broadcast from the awesome Skid Row Studios in beautiful downtown Los Angeles. If you would like to see our show live, go to skidrowstudios.com and hit live video. And now, our show. Good, on the picture. Hi, I'm Willis Boyd. And I'm Shante Duncan. And you're listening to Positive Perspective. Tonight, we're doing a post-family reunion show, and I have some beautiful, beautiful in-studio guests. And I'll let you guys introduce yourselves. I'm Georgia Mae Jones. And I'm... I'm Tony Ray Jones. Georgia Mae Jones. And I'm Roosevelt Jones. Okay. You know what? You need to pull that microphone closer to you, Uncle Roosevelt. Yeah, you guys, okay? Yeah. Okay. And the lovely lady to the left, are you all right? I'm Amber Jones. I'm Tyra Jones. And I'm Denise Boyd. And we all know Shante, most excellent co-host. Yes, tonight, we have an interesting show. We're going to talk about the family reunion we had in Shreveport, Louisiana. Louisiana, Louisiana. And then we're going to get into a deeper subject. But first, I've got to get... I've got to get some things off my chest. You guys need to bear with me. First, I'd like to apologize to Bruce Jennings. Jenner. Jenner. Okay, Bruce Jenner. And the reason I want to apologize is because I said some bad things about the man. And that... When a Christian man does that, he is not in Christ. I was not in Christ when I said those things. I said those things about Bruce Jenner and people like Bruce Jenner. God will judge him and judge people like him. And his judgment will be exact. But it's not up to me to call him names or belittle him or belittle them. Because I know I wouldn't do it to his face. I do not disrespect homosexual people or transgender or cross gender. I do not disrespect homosexual people or transgender or cross gender. crossdressers, I don't do that. So just because I'm on a radio show and I'm able to say things for good radio maybe, doesn't give me the right as a Christian to bad mouth him because if he does collapse and under whatever he is or whatever he thinks he is and he needs to come to a Christian and if I'm that example, then he's probably not going to trust a Christian person. So I am apologizing. And then second of all, this is our very last show here at Skid Row Studios and I would like to thank Melvin Ishmael Johnson. Sorry, I'm trying to find my spot here. Okay, since it is our last show, I'd like to thank Melvin because he gave us a spot, a half-hour spot on his show. So, the Qumran report to get us ready for our own show. He is a community leader and I can't say enough about him. But I, Willis Boyd Jr., praise him for trying to lead a struggling people to higher ground. This man is always giving people opportunities if they want opportunities. It's a given. And I think that's a great thing. You know, opportunities out there for everybody. But it's a two-way street. People are offering it. But if you don't want it, if you're just standing there looking at it, then it's going to pass you by. So I'm sitting here because I did not let the opportunity pass me by. But if he wasn't offering that opportunity, I would be doing something else. But I would be doing something. Okay, I wouldn't be just sitting around. Okay, now, I'm going to go ahead and get back to the show. Now, before we get into our other events, I got to get Bible on y'all. Okay, and see, I think that a lot of us, and we talk about family, family reunions. I don't believe enough of us are starting with our families. I don't believe we pray enough with our families. I don't believe we teach our families how to pray. I don't believe as men, we are leaders and women too, that we are leaders And I don't believe we are leaders and women too. And I mean, we profess God and we profess the things of Christ, but we're not very good examples. So this is kind of a hard one. I don't understand what, I guess what I'm getting at is Jesus is God. Okay, I don't know if everybody in this room believes that. I can't understand how. And I don't think, but I'm just going to throw some things out there. And I don't think, but I'm just going to throw some things out there. And it should be like elementary. It should be elementary if we can think about it. I'm saying Jesus is God. Okay, and I'm going to need some help, Shante. Now, we didn't have a chance to go over this, but can you go to Exodus 3, 13 through 14. Can you read that for me? Moses said to God, Okay, so Jesus, wait a minute, not Jesus, but God. God is saying this, right? Out of a burning bush. If you even believe that kind of stuff, right? I believe it. Okay, so God is saying, I am, right? Okay, so let's take it up a few notches. John 8, 58. Jesus was saying, I am. And that's who God said to say, I am, right? Okay, try this next one here. John 14, 6. Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life. Wait a minute. There's that, I am again, is it? He said what? Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father. Except through me. Now, wait a minute. We're going to have a Holy Ghost partner. I'm not going there. I'm really not going there, right? Because I don't want the attention, but I do want a little attention. Okay, let's go. Let's go here. John 11. John 11, 25. Jesus said to her, I am the resurrection and the life. Wait, what did he say? I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live even though they die. Okay, let's take it. Let's go ahead and take it to Revelations. This ain't going to last much longer, people, but can you see where I'm going with this? Okay, the burning bush said that God said, tell them that I am sent you. And Revelations? Revelation 22, 13. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. This is Jesus speaking. Okay, John 10. Nine. John 10, nine. I am the gate. Whoever enters through me will be saved. Also another translation. I am the door. Okay, that I am just keeps he just just ending, you know, making these sentences, just telling everybody who is. Well, I want to you know what I'm go. Go one more. No, wait a minute. Just go. Two more. We only got two more. We got two hours show. Are you guys with me? Are you with me? Okay, go ahead. John 15, one. I am the true vine and my father is the gardener. Okay, so and I mean, that gets a little deep that we can't do anything without him. Okay, and the next one. John 8, 12. When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Now, how heavy is that? How deep is that? That is so deep. But are you guys understanding what I'm saying here? Is it simple? God said, I am have sent me and now Jesus is finished. You know, he's he's he's telling everybody I am I am I am so I mean, if you if you know your Bible of John one first chapter, it says nothing was made without Jesus. That was made. So everything that was made was made by him. Okay, so he's God. God is God. Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God. I don't know how it works. If I did know how it works, I wouldn't be sitting around here talking to you. I know. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't even talk to y'all. But if we don't understand how it works, and I think the religions of the world. Or man, they're trying to figure this thing out. So they try to break it down and put it in a way that they can understand it. And so therefore they they go after people that think like them to try to understand it. We can't understand it. Right. But the truth is all right. Right. It's all right there. And it's it's so easy and simple that a child can understand it because I ain't no Einstein. Okay. She got it. He goes, I know that's right. So anyway, let's let's do the slideshow. Is that should we do that now? I think I think let's do the slideshow now of just a little slideshow we put together in honor of family reunions. Past present. Yeah. Now, baby, please don't go. Now, baby, please don't go. Baby, please don't go back to your knees and get your car like me. Yeah, that's one of the things. Yeah. You guys can look at those. I gave it a man. I gave it a man. Hey, you guys see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You want me to talk into the mic? You don't think I know what I'm doing? Oh, okay. You guys can comment on the pictures if you know who they are. Now, this is the Pickens family. This is my mom and my sister. Okay, if you know who the pictures are, just explain, because the audience can hear you. This is my dad, Boss Pickens. I'd be my baby, she'd lie That she didn't have a man Now, while I had my time Oh, I'd be in your door Oh, I'd be in your door Now, while I'd be in your door I'd be in your door I'd take my crunk this morning, baby Go back and roll it for me I see Elmer, Rodney, Kelly, I believe I leave you now I believe I leave you now I believe I leave you now Cause you got me way up here And you don't feel my guilt I got you. Now, baby, please don't go Oh, baby, please don't go Now, baby, please don't go Back to your knees You know I love you so I believe you're trying to leave me now I believe you're trying to leave me now I believe you're trying to leave me now You got me way down here Are you changing the phone after 45 seconds? You don't believe me, but I still believe you No, I mean on the music. That's for David Jr. Okay. Naomi. Okay. Blue Monday Blue Monday Blue Monday Blue Monday Never sleep all day Here comes He'll be Oh, till then I'm so tired Got no time To play Now here come Wednesday I'm beating my socks You know, I got a question. How can we, um, how can people, um, inbox me about how can they listen to the song right now? It's a heartbreaking day In front, I'll give my fee Hey, look, you're not live, no. It's positive, it's live, no. Oh, it's in a dim light Not positive light, but it is a video It's live video I got my money In my honey In a mountainous field The bite you Be got a go Be a liar Be a liar Be a liar Be a liar Be a liar Be a liar Be a liar Be a liar Be a liar Be a liar Cause tonight I'm gonna see my much Yet again Pick a toy To enjoy in the game Son of a gun We have been Born to fight John John Get up and Feel it yeah Son of a gun Hold on Yeah Thank you my sweet love Oh Something got a hold on me And it feels like Let me check now I never felt like this But now Something got a hold on me And won't let go I believe I cried But I feel like I'm Cause I feel too good Oh Oh Oh Yeah Yeah Baby It must be love But I tell you now Something got a hold on me Child And it must be love Ooh It's got a hold on me I tell ya Said it feels like Let me tell ya I believe I cried Something got me in the game I believe I cried Yep I only cared But I ain't leaving now No more Rosaville, Cali Me Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep get on the show also. Some of you guys are detecting me, so I swear to get on the show. Also, there's a time delay, so our voices are coming in a little bit late, so they do know what they're talking about. Just bear with us. There's like a latency. So just check it out. Me and Ted. Yeah. Let's talk about that. I still look that good. I still look that good. I like the music. Open the telly. Back mirror. Open the telly. You won't do your sister's bid. Lucy, you won't do your sister's bid. She ran off and married, but our love is still. Lucy, please come back where she belongs. Lucy, please come back where she belongs. I beg you, dear baby, please don't leave me alone. I woke up this morning. Lucy was not in sight. I asked my friends about her, but all they looked was tight. Lucy, please come back where she belongs. That boy just lacking, but what's her name? It's... I beg you, dear baby, please don't leave me alone. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Yeah. When you're rockin' and a-rollin', pay me your mama call. From the early, early morning to the early, early night, when you call me smiley, rockin' at the house of blue light. Good golly, Miss Smiley, show like it's a ball. When you're rockin' and a-rollin', pay me your mama call. Mama, Papa told me, son, you better watch yourself. If the new Obama's mama has to watch my papa sell. Good golly, Miss Smiley, show like it's a ball. When you're rockin' and a-rollin', pay me your mama call. Good golly, Miss Smiley, show like it's a ball. Good golly, Miss Smiley, show like it's a ball. When you're rockin' and a-rollin', pay me your mama call. I'm goin' to the corner, gonna buy a Domino's ring. When she hugs me and kisses me, make me ting-a-ling-a-ling. Good golly, Miss Smiley. Yeah. Good golly. When you're rockin' and a-rollin', pay me your mama call. You know what, I'm starting to watch this. I put it like that. Right, right. Maverly, why can't you be true? Oh, Maverly, why can't you be true? You done started doin' the things you used to do. You done started doin' the things you used to do. I got it like a roll on an open road. Nothing I'd run my V8 pro. I got it like doing about 95. Bumbley bumbley side to side. Maybelline, why can't you be true? Oh, Maybelline, why can't you be true? Getting started back doing the things you used to do. I got it like four of the hundred and four. The cold got hot and wouldn't do no more. The gun got crowded and started to rain. I tooted my horn for the passing lane. Rain water blowing all under my hood. I knew that I was doing my motor good. Maybelline, why can't you be true? Oh, Maybelline, why can't you be true? Getting started back doing the things you used to do. Oh, Maybelline, why can't you be true? Oh, Maybelline, why can't you be true? Getting started back doing the things you used to do. Motor cooled down, the heat went down. That's when I heard that highway's down. Cadillac said like a ton of lead. A hundred and ten, a hundred and ten. A half a mile ahead. Cadillac looking like it's dead and still. And I caught Maybelline at the top of the hill. Maybelline, why can't you be true? Oh, Maybelline, why can't you be true? Getting started back doing the things you used to do. You got a pick and pocket. Yeah, you're right. There's all the young bucks there. Yeah, there's all the young bucks there. The future. Riding along in my automobile. My baby beside me at the wheel. That's great. I stole a kiss at the turn of a mile. My curiosity running wild. Cruising and playing the radio. With no particular place to go. Riding along in my automobile. I was anxious to tell her. The way I feel. The way I feel. Oh, boy, he's trying to dance. That's tough. That's tough. I told her softly and sincere. And she leaned and whispered in my ear. Cuddling more and driving slow. With no particular place to go. Tommy, Tommy, he can. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No particular place to go So we parked way out on the Kokomo The night was young and the moon was cold So we both decided to take a stroll Can you imagine the way I felt I couldn't unfasten a safe belt Riding along in my color blues Still trying to get her belt to lose All the way home I held a grudge For the safety belt that wouldn't budge Cruising and playing the radio With no particular place to go The night was young and the moon was cold The night was young and the moon was cold The night was young and the moon was cold The night was young and the moon was cold The night was young and the moon was cold Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Teresa. Jason. Who is that? I don't know who it is. It's a family affair. It's a family affair. It's a family affair. It's a family affair. One child grows up to be Somebody that just loves to learn Another child grows up to be Somebody you just love to burn Mom loves the both of them Seats in the blood Both kids Blood's thicker than the mud It's a family affair It's a family affair Water vat Water vat He's still going for practice. Huh? I got David. Thank you. Thank you. That's all the Catholic kids. David, Kylo, Carlos, and Kathy. That's all. What's up? We still have Kathy. Newlywed a year ago. Kathy, Alfred, and Shalini. We're just still checking each other out. Hey. Nobody wants to blow. Nobody wants to be left out. Uh-huh. You can't leave Cause your heart is there But you You can't stay Cause you've been somewhere else You can't cry Cause you look broke down But you're crying anyway Cause you're all broke down It's a family affair It's a family affair It's a family affair Yeah, family affair Yeah, every year Kathy and her kids do a heart walk. Yeah. oh All right, we back? There's still more pictures? Are we back? Yeah, we're back. Okay. So did that bring, take you back down memory lane? Back down memory lane. Oh, yeah. Hey, was that pretty good? Back down. No, never mind. They're still looking at a couple. Oh. It's like time delayed. It's still okay. That's Rod, that's Rod. Oh, there we go. All right, so that's a little slideshow that we put together, and I'm frantically just trying, trying to get it together. Life is so busy, and Denise had 18,000 million things to do this weekend, so did Shante and myself. I'm just lazy, and I have to take credit for it. But I want to talk about family reunion 2015 in Shreveport, Louisiana. We were there. We were there. Shante wasn't. She was working and doing that thing that we all have to do. I'm very proud of her for doing that. She had a choice. She could have went if she wanted to. She chose to stay and work. So let's talk about that reunion. And anybody want to just start off or? Don't be bashful. Well, I'll start off. It was wonderful. I mean, it was a throwback. Did you hear me? Yeah, there you go. No, it was a throwback reunion to me. It made me really feel like a kid again, like seeing the ditches out there, you know? Oh, yeah. I always told my wife about Louisiana. I said, you got to see the ditches. When it rained at Grandma and my dad's house, we used to jump in the ditch and swim and stuff and play. Well, man. It come out looking like with peep blood all over. But it was really good to, look at my father because we was driving behind him and he was a kid again. He was driving through. He would take the roads, all the freeways that everybody was taking. He would take these streets and stuff. And then I never realized like Southern Made Donuts, you know, that place is so, so good. It felt good to see that in person again. Southern Made. Southern Made. The donut shop is called Southern Made. Oh. And at four o'clock, you get the donuts when they're hot. Around four o'clock and they're like, they're so hot, they'll like melt the box. And me and Roderick was, well, we was trying to get back there for four o'clock to get them, but we, you know, we put them in a microwave and made them hot. That was good enough. One way or another. Yeah, but it was, it was a, it was a, it was a really a good throwback experience. I got to see Wallace Lake. You know, I always tell people about Wallace Lake and the water moccasins there and snapper turtles and stuff. It was a good, um, good reunion to me. And I thought the kids, I was glad my daughter got to see it too, because I always told them about Shreveport. And, uh, it was, it was, it was good. It was good. Is it her first time or no? First time going to Louisiana. Uh-huh. Well, I haven't been since, actually, I was about 10, I believe was the last time I was there. And, um, yeah, that's what I was telling Nisa about the, the ditches. But some of them have sidewalks now. Well, they have, well, I told my wife, I said, it wasn't, it wasn't the last time I was here in 85. It wasn't even the street right here. You know, so, I mean, when I see the concrete street on, on, um, over by Mama Daisy's house, I was like, what? Uh-huh. They moving on up. They coming up now. Uh, and in front of the house, it's the big ditch there. Rain full of water. Uh-huh. You would go put crawfish. The crawfish. Uh-huh. Out of the, out of the, yeah. Yeah, I know, but that's what he said. He jump in that thing. I would never, that would be like, I'd be afraid of snakes, snapping turtles, and everything else. Yeah, it wouldn't be, I'd be, I'm talking about back in the 70s, probably too. I was real little, I was real little, I was real little, I don't know, I don't, you know, I didn't, I didn't care, you know. Yeah, I know, that's what I'm saying. You didn't care. It was like water. It was still there. It was still hot. It was still hot. I think it was sunny across the street and raining on this side. When we jumped in, because it would be rain on one side, and sunny on the other side. Like that, but it was, to me personally, it was a good throwback experience for me. It felt like, it felt like we was, I remember every year, we used to go down there, one family would go at each time, and I was, I was telling my wife, I said, look, I said, because I was driving down one street, I said, hey, my uncle used to live right there. I said, I said, we used to go way over here to go get in the swimming pool. And then, I just, I just recognized a lot of stuff, but it was just real good to see. And how about you, Uncle Roosevelt? Well, I enjoy it. It's too hot for me, though. Yeah, I know, but you know what? It didn't seem, it seemed like that first day that we got there, which I'm not sure what the date was, seemed like it was real hot that day, but it seemed like it kind of tapered off. Yeah, I went fishing. I was like 117. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What? The first day or the, the. No, I was about, two or three days after I was there. Oh, but you guys got there earlier, right? Yeah, we got there, we had about, four days there, two or three days. Oh, okay. Yeah, when we, when we got there, it was hot that first day, when everybody went to, got their, got their nails did or something like that. And then, after that, it seemed like it, it just tapered off a little bit. It wasn't as humid. Yeah, a little bit. Uh-huh. And you got, you got in a lot of fishing too, huh? Yeah, about three or four days, evenings. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And you, how many fish did you catch? Well, we done pretty good, just about every day. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. About how many fish did you catch? Uh, overall, probably about, uh. You can lie, you're a fisherman, you can lie. Go ahead, go ahead. No, no, overall, we probably got about 30 or 40. Nah, all, a day? No, no, overall. Each day, for all days added together. Oh, wow, I, I thought you was gonna say, oh, we did about 300. Oh, no. No, huh? So, and, was y'all there for the fish fry? Yeah, we was at Herman's. And how about you, Aimee? Hmm? Uh, the trip, the, the reunion to you? Well, I enjoyed myself very much. I could get down. What you mean, get down? What do you mean, get down? I don't know, break it down for me. Get down, cool, cool. Oh, okay, all right. And then, uh, and I really enjoyed my Linda Pickens. Oh, is that right? Cause she did the, she got down. Oh, she got, I seen you guys out there. She had everybody, she had everybody dancing out there. She got it started. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So, So, I, I enjoyed everything. They had everything, you know, ready, fixed up. Mm-hmm. So, that's what made it kind of easy to just, you know, pay your dues and not to worry about a lot of Mm-hmm. commercial here and all over. Uh-huh. So, And then, uh, Nise, what'd you think? Cause that, that's the first time you ever experienced, I mean, you've gone to the reunions, but that's the first time you've been down there, right? Yeah, it's the first time I've been down South. I've never been to the South. And, um, I remember why I didn't like road trips as a kid when we'd go to Pennsylvania, too much driving. But, if I had to do it over again, I, I would, I would probably drive again. Um, only because we made it a really nice, big loop with seeing a lot. But, um, I enjoyed myself, um, down in, in Shreveport. Um, it wasn't, you know, I'd heard all the stories about different things and then trying to put it back together, you know, cause I've been in the family for ever and ever now. Um, and we had a good time. I, I mean, I really enjoyed cause we went to grandma Daisy's house and then we went over to grandma Daisy's property, but then we went to grandma Ethel's house, your grandma on your dad's side and went on over there. So it was like all these people that I knew that have passed and stories that I heard, I could start putting things together, getting to see, you know, where your dad and your mom, um, you know, spent most of their, their childhood lives at. And, um, it was pretty neat, you know, um, just seeing, you know, I, I felt it was very home, home body. Like it wasn't, you know, I wasn't like an outsider, you know, everybody was very, very friendly. I mean, even the grocery stores and you went in, people were extremely friendly. And I mean, I was asking for the fish fries, like where's the oil at, you know, and lady direct me right down where the oil was at, you know, I mean, it was just a, it was just a nice, and it was real laid back, like, like, and Georgia may said it wasn't, we weren't pressured on anything for, you know, on one of, I've never taken two weeks vacation together since I've been working. And I, I actually relaxed on vacation, which is unusual for me. Usually I'm constantly, you know, moving and working and stuff, but I actually relaxed and had a very good time. Yeah. Um, I thought, I thought we went to new order. How you like that? New Orleans is a place that you go to, to visit. And then you go back home. It kind of liked to me, like going, to Vegas, you go there when you just go for two or three days, then you're ready to go back home. Yeah. When we were in new Orleans, it was hot and it was humid and we had a rainstorm. And I mean, we're at the zoo and it's 105 out and the humidity was 99.9. I mean, sweat just dripping off of you and stuff. And I don't do real well in that humid weather. But when we got to Shreveport, it's like the humidity went away. It wasn't bad until the day we went to leave. And then it kind of was coming back again, which I was kind of surprised. And Amber, Amber, what do you got to say? Chime in girl. Amber. It was really fun because all of my cousins that live in Louisiana, Josh and Justice, I got to see them and Uncle Herman and Chiquita. It was really cool because I like being with all my family, like Tori, Joy, Ivory, Crawford, everybody comes together. So it's like, even if we don't do anything, it's still fun to me. So yeah, it was really enjoyable. And it was, it was cool to know that like we're in historical land and like, they came from Louisiana. So it was cool. Was that your first time? No, it's my second time. But like, um, the first time we went, I forgot what year it was. The first time. 2005. 2005. She went to, she went to the reunion. Georgia. The last Louisiana was 2005, right? In Georgia. They went all the way to Georgia. No, she went in. Oh, she thought she was in Louisiana. Yeah, she was in Louisiana. Hey, you know what girl? Same. Different. It was fun. I enjoyed myself. I was 15. Huh? She, we went to every, well, we went to, no, she wasn't born in 85. Yeah. Not that old. Uh, I think, I think when we went to, what was it? Songbird, Beautiful, Tyra. Janice's house. That's the only time she went. When we went down to Janice's house, she was down there. She was down there. And what did you think? I mean, 85. I had fun. I was with family and stuff. And I think I gained a lot of pounds because. Oh, did you guys hear that? Because I was, I was, I was eating like, like most of the time. It was like, it was some good food. So, I was eating a lot. I mean, I can relate. I mean, I can relate. I mean, it was, we was eating from, when we took off from Riverside. Riverside. I was eating from Riverside to New Orleans, no, to Texas, to New Orleans, to Shreveport, to Grand Canyon, no, to Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico, to Grand Canyon, to Vegas, and then came back home. Then I doubled back, went back to Vegas and started eating some more. No, I'm just kidding. We didn't do the, I didn't go back to Vegas to eat some more. There was nothing but food, too much food. Yeah, and it's fried. It's fried. It's all fried. Especially that little catfish, and the crawfish. That place we went to, oh my God. Whatever that pickled stuff they eat. Oh, yeah, that stuff they put on the greens and stuff. Whatever it is, it's like a pickled, it's got to look like it's cabbage and, yeah, yeah. It's called cha, cha, yeah, I like that. That's when we went over to Tony Ray, Tony Ray's house. They, we went over there, invited us over there, and his wife fixed us dinner, and they got us some of that, but I remember, eating that stuff when, when I was a kid down there. They put it on the greens, and mostly cabbage and greens is what, cornbread. Well, I was going right out the bowl. It was good. It was good. It was real good. But another thing about the family union that I thought was, that I liked, was that every little cousin out there, you know, the first, when they first saw each other, it was like, hey, hey. But after that, you couldn't separate them. They all had a, they all had a great time. It was, it was more like the boys hung around, the girls hung around, but, but they all seemed to, just take to each other real good, and I'm pretty sure they all keeping, keeping up with each other on Facebook, and Snapchat, and CapChat, and all that stuff they're doing. But, but, it was real nice to see, the togetherness, and I think we have a chance now, to, teach them, our future, especially, that's what I like about the, about the Louisiana reunions, because, when you go home, and see where you come from, and you can say, wow, you know, you look at TV, you know, you looked at, all these places, the houses on the sticks, and you know, you see these roads, and stuff, and then we only talked about it, and then, what still fascinates me is, what's the lady, the church lady across the street, Miss, Miss, Miss Inez's house. Oh, yeah. Okay, every time I went to Louisiana, I always looked for her house, because my memory, years ago, she has a bullet hole in her house, I always looked for that bullet hole, that was in the, in the, in the porch area, and then the house is abandoned now, it's abandoned, and it's, boarded up, and I'm like, wow, every, they say, ever since she passed, the house been like that, you know, since, since they boarded it up, you know, so, that, that was kind of, historical too, but I think, I think, I really think we have a chance, with the younger generation, to teach them, about our past, and the, and the, show how strong we were, because, I had, spoke, at the, dinner party we had, that, that, when I was a child, all of the, older generation, made me feel like I was, I can do anything, I mean, they say, Tony Ray, go rake up that yard, I can't rake up that yard, yes you can, just get that rake, start raking it, and then, you know, I said, yes I can, so I started raking it, and, but it was, it was possible, it was possible, and they made me feel like, it was possible, you know, every one of my, older generation, and still, to this day, they still, hold me accountable, and say, yeah, you can do it, you can do it, you know, and then, it gets frustrating at times, when you try to do things, and you don't have the followers, but I think these kids, have a good chance, because I think they're very interested, in each other, I think they, all of them, you know, you can, it's funny, when I'm looking, I'm saying, you know, they all kind of look alike, I guess Mama Daisy, and Pops, and Pops, Jeans was real, strong, because, because they all kind of look alike, and I think they realize, they have a, bullet line in Louisiana, you know, it's in, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, and I guess we probably got, everywhere else, you know, we never know, but I think, like I tell the kids, I always tell the kids, and I'm always talking to these two, and every, every one of my little cousins, my little nieces, even friends, always tell them, I say, look, I said, if you go to school, and we just leave all the books, in the school, you're just going to go to school, and look at the books, but somebody have to teach you, how to read the books, so, our older generation, we need to teach the kids, how to read the books, we need to teach the kids, this is Shreveport, Louisiana, this is Bolger City, this is, this is Texas, you know, and then, this is where your family's at, and then, when you, when you, show them, how to read the book, then that's how they learn, about their history, and that's how they keep, the history going, but if we don't teach the kids, the history, it's not going to be a future, and, and, the kids, really got motivated, to read the books, and, they got motivated this year, and I think one of the biggest things, to come out of this reunion, was the kids got motivated, to, to, take, take a grab of the future, and, I think, I think since, since they did that, we need to, we need to hold them accountable, like, everybody help me accountable. they, they took, and grabbed the future, break that down for me, I'm not, well, we'll just grab the future, just, just realize, we getting old, I mean, I know, amongst you guys, I'm still young, but see, amongst them, I'm old, so it's like, um, I'm getting old now, so, and, and, um, our generation, I say from the 50 to the 35, and I'm 46, so, from the 50 to the 35, um, we, it's, it's, you know, we almost too old now, so we, and, and, and we need to, to teach, you know, teach the younger ones, to, to, that, that, hey, look, your name, you know, because like, I'm a Jones, but, I'm a Pickens, I'm a Pickens, I'm a Pickens though, you know what I'm saying? So like, um, if I didn't tell my daughter, she's really, her, her bloodline would come from the Pickens, she'd say, oh, I'm a Jones, but she knows she's a Pickens, because we say, yeah, yeah, she knows, she knows, she knows, she knows where her bloodline comes from, Pickens, and then, and then, and then that's out of respect to my mother, you know what I'm saying? But then, when, when you a guy, a man, you have to give respect to your father's side also, and I don't really know too much about my father, I'm just now getting to meet him, I mean, I've been meeting, they came to the house, hung out with us and everything, and then we went and seen him out there, and you know, the family, I mean, I'm still learning, you know, I'm still learning, but then my daughter, even though some, my father, my cousin, and you gotta hear my father, when he get around his cousin, he tell these great stories, and I never hear my father say, Papa, he be talking to his cousin, oh, oh, Papa's even, I wanna, I wanna learn those stories too, you know what I'm saying? Those are some real good stories, but we need to teach, and then like, we just gotta be open-minded, and ready, ready to learn, we got wonderful teachers, I mean, our older generation is wonderful, I mean, everybody in our older generation is wonderful, best teachers, I mean, we wouldn't be nowhere without our older generation, we just need to teach a little more, you know, we gotta be a little more patient with the, with the younger generation. Well, you said something that really struck me interesting, when you said about raking the, the grass, they said, they said, Tony, go rake the grass, and you said, pardon me? Oh, okay, sorry. Oh yeah, you was off, I didn't hear you. Yeah, they, you said, Tony, they, go rake the grass, and you said, I can't rake the grass, and see, that's your generation, my generation, Junior, go rake the grass, I can't, boom! Boom, boom. That came with it. That came with it. I was trying to be nice. What? I didn't get it. I can't, what? You can't. So, but I'm just saying, I thought that was interesting, but that's cool, cause, I think that, um, a lot is to be said for, patience with children, um, a lot of times we didn't, that was a luxury we didn't have, was patience. We had, we got the belt, and we got it quick, and, it taught us different things, but, I'm not sure whether to say it was good or bad, because I think, um, like the Bible says that, the newer generations shall be weaker, and I didn't really understand that, because, you guys run faster, you're stronger, you're lifting more weights, um, you're breaking all kinds of records, but, the Bible is talking about here, and spiritually, mentally and spiritually weaker, and that's what is happening. I mean, I'm not pointing no fingers, but, the evidence is all around us, that, that, and, and I believe, that it's because of lack of discipline, that we do need discipline. We don't need abuse, and I do feel a lot of times I was abused, as a child, and, um, a lot of times we all, well, I'm just saying that generation, that it was abuse, but, it was all we knew. Okay? I mean, we come from slaves, right? And, what did Master do to us? Well, we didn't come from slaves, I'm gonna correct you. Okay, then talk to me. We came from kings. We came from Egypt. Okay. We didn't come from slaves. Okay, Egypt. I teach my kids damn no. Okay, when you go to get a job, when you go get that job, is that what you tell them? Well, I'm not gonna say I came from slaves, though. Okay, I mean, but that's what you tell them when they tell you, they look you in your face, that's what you tell these police when they shoot you, unarmed, is that what you tell them? No, I wish I could, but if you tell them that, they'd probably get even more. Okay, well, see, with me, I understand what you're saying, Egypt, the first great kingdom. Okay, I understand what you're saying, but I'm living for real, and I, I mean, I keep it real. I don't tell my kid, you are somebody, because they go around believing that crap without earning it. Oh, I understand that. Okay, and I think Jesse Jackson, I think he screwed up our whole nation spreading that crap around in the 60s or whenever he did it, because he failed, you know, I might be broke, I might be this, I might be that, but I am somebody. He got all these youngsters walking around with their chests out thinking I am somebody, but not doing nothing. Okay? You have to earn it. You have to earn it. You can't be somebody without doing something, and that's what I teach. Yeah, the cops hate you, or not, okay, I won't say it like that, and you know what? I'm not going to say, oh, there's a lot of crooked cops. It's not, the cops, they're all crooked because they're working under a crooked system. Yeah. Our justice system is corrupt, and if one cop does something bad, his brother has to protect him, so they are all crooked. There are no good cops under this justice system, and we're finding that out, and we have to do something to change it. We can't just sit around and not do anything and just say, oh, there's a few, but overall, they just showed a thing, I think today, about two San Francisco cops laughing and joking about shooting an unarmed person. There's a couple videos of them doing stuff like that. Shooting an unarmed person. Let's get back to the meeting. Oh, you're going to help me out. Okay. Okay, thank you. You're going to help me out? You want to sit here? Okay. All right, but what I'm saying is that we have to teach the kids how to talk to the police. We have to teach our children, no, you ain't me. Nothing. Okay, even the Bible. I'm not sure. I think Peter says, I'm scum. I'm this. I'm that, but you ain't no better than me. In Christ's eyes, in the eyes of God, we are all the same, but he's not saying, hey, you know, look, I'm a king. I'm this. I'm that. He's saying just the opposite. The Bible teaches us just the opposite. It teaches us that we are nothing and Christ died for us to be something and that's only to God, but that's why they're killing us and that's why and you know what? I could do like a million shows and I never did the show about Moses, not Moses, Noah, putting the curse on Ham, which was Cain, and who was the father of Africa. He cursed that man, okay, and I always wanted to try to find out why black people from Africa to here were, I mean, we've been taken over. I mean, the whole, I mean, if you just look at it, how, how, I guess, oppressed and murdered. I mean, it's all happened to us. I mean, it's happened to a lot of people, but I think it's happened to us more than than anybody else on the face of this planet. Is it because of that curse? Do we understand that curse? Can we understand that curse? Why these things are happening to us? Why, why a beautiful, strong people like ourselves, are now buying down to the Hispanic or the Latino population in America when, when we are, like you say, beautiful descendants of, from kings. Okay. So, but, who are the Latinos? Now, don't get me wrong. I am not putting them down. I think, I mean, it's obvious their strength, their businesses flourish. They have strong family values. They have morals. Okay. Why are we playing second fiddle to them? How come we're not at least hanging with them? Why is that? Why did they come? We're here. Why have they gone like this? And we, we're going like this. Now, is it because we're teaching our children that they're princes and kings? No. Why, I mean, you got, you got an answer? Anybody want to chime in? Denise, Denise, you don't have no answer? Shante? You got to say something. You ain't said nothing. I'm listening, but. No, I got a, I got a reason why. Well, let's, Shante, if you got something. Go ahead, Shante. I'm just going to rephrase your question. Are you asking why we're dying? As a people, it just seems like we are dying. We are struggling. It seems like we are not able to get over the hump. I mean, you can go to Atlanta and which, who was on here? I guess it was Norse. That's a chocolate city and talking about the black dollar and, and, and all this kind of stuff happening. I think either it's a distance between people like you were saying with the family reunions and knowing your history, where you come from and then trying to connect with your family. There's that and I don't think we have that as much as other races do. And then I think it's just people have a different mentality. I don't think we're coming to an agreement. On how we can make something better. I think everybody has a different idea on what they want to do. So everyone's like separate. Okay. Now see, this is like, and I want to get into this, but not, are we, are we already into our second hour? Yeah. My, the time flies when you're having fun. Okay. But, huh? Okay. Um, did you finish with? Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Oh, no. Well, mine's going to be quick. I think we need to get back primarily on, on the family reunion if this type of show it is. But you know what? But my thing is, and what Denise, this is the family reunion. No, it is. Okay. This is the family reunion. But just like I told you, I think we come from Kings and Queens because if you teach, if I tell my daughter, you know, we, we were slaves and we had to do what people told us to do. And if we didn't do it, we got whipped. We got killed. We got slaughtered. Whipped or killed, hang, whatever. You know, if you didn't do what you were supposed to do. If we told them that, then where is the, where's the, where'd you start from? You know, oh, were we just slaves and they watered us and we grew into slaves? Yeah, there's a book I read and it says that like in high schools and middle schools and all that. They teach the slavery part but they don't teach the other half of it. It's teaching both. Because I actually have to take, I had to go to college and get black history when I was in, in back, you know, back in, back in 87. Yeah, that's when you learned about it. Yeah, yeah, so. I am black history. But they told me, they told me about kings because I know everything that, everything that I know about black history I thought was white history because they said Pharaoh's king, king, king Tut, the pyramid, you know, all this stuff was there, you know. And then, I just, I just recently went in an article today, they found a mummy, a 2,000 year old mummy that was, had not, nappy hair, you know, like. He still had hair? He had locks. I got a picture of him, my phone, if you want to see it. Oh, I see it there. And look, and so, and so, I think that if you teach the kids that you were kings, you got to get back there. But if you teach them that you were a slave, they're going to say, okay, well, we were slaves, then, you know, we know how to, that's, that's probably why we got so much stress right now anyway because it's in the blood, you know, because we, because we think that we're supposed to be at the bottom. Oh, well, I, and then, no, I'm talking about us, if we, if we teach the kids, I mean, even the schools, I said, wow, I used to be a slave, you know, and then I was looking at 12, 12 years of slave, they used to use the Bible against the slaves. They said, oh, yeah, yeah, they used to buy me a slave. So, I mean, the same thing, that's why I don't believe that, that we should even talk about slavery no more like for our schools. I think we should say, oh, yeah, we were kings and then we just tell the truth. Just say somebody, you know, then why talk about kings if you don't talk about slaves and you're right. No, it's going to be, my Sunday school teacher told me that Matthew 39 was thou shall not knowingly let a white man do manual labor. Thou shall not knowingly, Matthew 39, seven, thou shall not knowingly let a white man do manual labor. And I'm like, amen. I'm just lying. That didn't really happen. Okay. But, I think, I think what's what Tony is saying is that if you're going to teach history of anything, it has to be the complete origin of history. Okay. Well, there's a debate on that now because they're trying to make a new history thing for SATs or something where they're trying to show how white people killed all the Native Americans and, and then there's people that say that's too brutal and that they should leave that out. But there's people that say that should be real 100% and show what this nation is built on violence. But I think there's people that don't want that. Well, I think there's a lot of people that don't want it. But that's what happened for obvious reasons. But even back with what Tony is saying, because, you know, I took black history in, in, in college. I took a year of it and they never started with, with the part where you were saying back when I was taking it and I'm, you know, older than you are. It didn't start back with the, the Kings and the Queens or anything like that coming. It basically started from Africa and move forward. They never brought the part from Egypt, even when I was taking. Well, no, but I meant back. I mean, they're talking, I'm talking about the slavery, the slavery and stuff. When I took black history, it never started back even, even back, you know, a thousand years before that or whatever. They didn't even start that in college. So, I mean, obviously between our generations, they changed the black history classes in college. So how come, how come we expect it to be taught in school when they've just finally moved up into a college level of trying to do that? I, I understand. I do fully understand what you're saying, but I mean, I hope you, we can sit here and disagree with each other, agreeably disagree, but respectively, I'm not, I'm not slamming. You're trying to slam me, but I think that slavery made us strong. Well, it made, it made us persevere. It made us persevere. We were already strong, but, but we're playing a white man's game. Yeah. And we're smart people. I mean, gosh, brilliant minds. Uh, but I mean, you can go on and on and on the first, uh, um, inventions that black people have bought about it and have contributed to the whole world. Um, but why are we struggling as a people? Yeah, that's what I was going to get to now. And the reason why I think because of saying, because of history, I think the reason why we're struggling because in, in, in, in like, I hate to get put into that quote, like the man holding us down, but, but, but, but the reason why I say that is because, is because society has made these electronics more interesting than reading a book. It has made, um, sitting out there, getting some money real quick, more interesting than going to work every day. It has made having your hair did looking beautiful better than learning how to own a company and getting beautiful. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. It's like that. You want it quick. You can't get it quick. And then what happens is when you try to get it quick, you get in trouble. You get these criminal records and stuff. And then, and then it happened definitely, definitely in the 70s and 80s where we still have all, all our fathers who with, with like the, the, the, the, the number of, of, of minorities down because half the men are still in prison. Um, and that been in prison in the last 25 years, last 30 years, you know, for some of them in crime. You know, and it's funny, I know you heard this, most of the black men are in prison for nonviolent crimes. They had all these drug offenses back in the 60s and 70s that said if you had this amount, you got 25 years and they're still in there. A lot of them got guns planted on them and stuff in Texas. And this is just in LA. If you think about what happened in Texas, people got executed because of stuff like that. So what happened is, I think we're held down by kids because they want that fast fix. Well, I believe that, but we've had discussions on this show probably a million times about the very thing that you're talking about. And it's so much deeper than what you're saying. Oh, exactly. That's a microcosm. But what I want to talk about, and we'll get back to the family reunion, but this is, in my opinion, this is family reunion. What we're talking about is the fact that our children need to know what we're talking about and learn about it. And fathers, like I was saying, and that's what the second hour I wanted to kind of talk about. When I was in Louisiana, Kelly, it's like you were saying, I think, you know, I was just watching him and it was like he was a kid again. He's sitting there, you know, and the look on his face was, you know, like he wanted to go. Them woods is thick in Louisiana. I mean, them woods is thick in Louisiana. I'm like, man, sakes of life. But he would be just sitting there looking out there and he'd have this look on his face or like we came out of somewhere and the breeze just hit him and he goes, man, it's a beautiful day. I love this. Remind me of Uncle Jim, how Uncle Jim, they just say what's on their mind, you know, and, um, but I saw some, you know, and heard some stories that, that made me think about, you know, the fathers that, that were not, um, handling their responsibilities and the children that, that were at the reunion that have came up without their fathers because of neglect or other reasons. And, um, I guess I just wanted to talk about how important is it? Like, like I was saying on the phone, with you, you have your family, you, um, and I don't know your business, but I don't know if you have this or that and you don't have to say anything. Uh, but, uh, like I'll say Crawford, you know, he's got his wife and he's got his kids and those are his, um, his family, Uncle Roosevelt, Aunt Georgia Mae, Uncle Jim, Aunt Linda, Joe. And I mean, I know they had previous marriages or whatever like that, but there are children, that, that were at this reunion that they were kind of not there because a family reunion made them think about the family that they didn't necessarily have. And it kind of made, it seemed like it made them angry. So what do you, anybody has to say about that? I mean, are you understanding the question? I said, yesterday that again, it's, it's the, the children that, and, and we all haven't been, you know, I guess what I'm saying is a lot of, a lot of the children, a lot of people, not even children have, have grown up in this family and they, their, their fathers did not take the responsibility of raising them, but they're still part of this family. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, for one thing, you know, like way, my family was raised and then, you know, we stuck together. His family was close all the time. We did everything together. And so therefore, when my sisters and brothers and things, we all was close. We talked to each other every day. Mm-hmm. Had to. And then, when I brought, when I brought my kids up, we, what I did to them, I didn't do to my grandkids. See? Mm-hmm. Because they all, you know, they all know right from wrong and they know what they shouldn't get into. Mm-hmm. And if they did, bought something home they didn't know, like he bought a, a toy airplane. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. A plan for them. What? They didn't have no money, but come with them. Oh. Come home with an airplane. They can't figure it out. Yeah. I said, where you get that from? He said, oh. I said, you had some money? He said, no. I said, what did you do? And don't you lie to me. He said, I got it from the store. I beat him back to the store. She actually whooped me with the airplane. So when she got back to the airplane, got back to the store with the airplane it was broken up so we couldn't nobody play for but I hope Gloria and Crawford are listening but Gloria told on me she's always telling and she the one probably kept you out of prison today hey you know what that's what I'm trying to say we gotta teach them we gotta teach them like that and then that was it I mean she she kept us good like I say Amber and Eric and my all my little nieces and nephews they didn't get this shoe coming around the corner of the door you know go and get the switch and see it was funny though this is a quick little quick story okay they said go get the switch off the tree right so we go ahead and switch off the tree you can get a big one or you can get a little they didn't care if it was big or little because if you got a little one you just gotta hit a whole whole lot a lot of times with that little one and then a big one you probably get one or two but my father he never really whooped it he used to get the end of the belt like tip in the middle like that but she took care of the dude and I you know tell them wait till your daddy get home when daddy got home he didn't do nothing so I spit on the tree yeah and I guess that's what I'm getting at pretty much what you were talking about what you were saying that most of the men are in jail but I think because of the oppressions of slavery and the oppressions that were put upon us by the United States that we were not allowed certain privileges and that is one of the reasons why we didn't bring our children up a certain way or we didn't care and at the end of a lot of our discussions it was black people are basically selfish people and we don't like Shante was saying we don't want to agree with one another and we don't want to work with one another and you guys know it a Latino person can move 15 miles an hour to the U.S. and they don't want to work with one another and they don't want to work with one another and they don't want to work with one another and they don't want to work with one another buy another house and another house, but black people can't do that. Can't do it. Okay. I preach that all the time. You know, I think something changed in the generations on down. Between your mom's generation and your generation and the next generation down, things really changed because I can remember your mom telling me when things would get rough with your dad and stuff, there was five sisters that she went to. And how many times did you say, you know, at Aunt Marita's house, there was 25 kids, you know, lined up in a line that were going to get a whooping for what one kid did and stuff. The family on that generation was really tight-knit, just like Aunt George and me were saying. Then as it got down to the next generation, you know, it was kind of a little more, you know, not quite as tight. Everybody was kind of into doing their own thing. You know, you weren't as close with your cousins. Not everybody got married, you know, and not, you know, divorce was a lot easier. And as the generations went on down, it's like times had really changed. They're not quite, they're not quite the same. And that's what I used to tell them. I said, I look at your generation and everybody was, you know, stayed married, you know, and if they didn't, it was, they still were friends. You know, I mean, I looked at Aunt Winnie and Uncle John. They still could be friends because that was the kids' mom and dad, you know, Aunt Jeanette and Don. They still were friends. They could be civil around you. Nowadays, you see people get divorced and it's like the kids are like in this little tug-of-war type of thing and I'm not going to let you see them. Yeah, the woman don't even let the man see the kid. You can't see this child here. You fathered them, you got together, but they don't even know how to be civil just because the mom and dad can't live under the same house. Well, they got to remember, they got kids there. The generations now don't see things that way. So something's gotten lost as the generations went down. Well, yeah, I guess most important what I was, trying to say that or wanting to say is that we do have to take the responsibility as men and that's like a big if now because there's like the cross-gender thing and, you know, we don't have to be men and women don't have to be women and bathrooms and I done figured that all out, but no more shows after this so I can't talk about it. I figured it out though, but I think that, you know, God has a plan. He, He laid his plan out. He knows that it's natural for a man and woman to be together and that's the way it's supposed to be. So what I'm, I guess what I'm getting at before we move on is that it's our responsibility as men to, to take on the roles of trying to lead our children and, and prayerfully they have enough sense to try to learn and, and, and prayerfully we have enough patience to try to understand how they think now because they don't think like we do. They don't, they don't act like we did. They don't act like we do. They don't think like we do. So that's, I guess my message to, to try to build a stronger family. Now, Mexican people were slaves. Yes. Jewish people were slaves. Just about everybody you can think of were slaves, but for some reason we got this thing going on and I think only through Christ Jesus we can be lifted out of it. Now, Tony wanted to talk a little bit about the next reunion. Yeah, well, I just wanted to keep the, keep this meeting about, about the futures, you know, so, and then in the next meeting I just hope everyone wants to give Atlanta a try. We, I know like, I remember from the family union one of your questions was will it be feasible for everybody which is, you know, it's never feasible for everybody so we need to try to do it because I know like our family, like my mother, father, my niece, nephew, brother, sister, we always, you know, it's one of the biggest things that happen to us. You know, we make sure it's one of the main things that happen in our life. At least every two years so, and, and that's why we're always at all the reunions but for this next reunion I've been getting these in the younger generation. I know people, you know, some people don't like to keep talking about the younger generation but if you don't talk about them we ain't gonna have a future. So, so, for this next reunion we really want to get our younger generation out, out there. I mean, and this time younger I'm talking about 50 and under, you know, 55 and under, you know, get them out there because when I, when I looked at the, we took these pictures we said, all, you know, 10 to 12, all 13 to 16, whatever, we kept going to these numbers and then if you looked at it when it got to the 35, they said 35 to 60. Why, why is that? Because they went from, they went 25 years to now, 25 to 60. So, so, so, they went from 25 years instead of going, okay, let's get all the babies here. That's five to six, six to 12, 12 to 18. They was only going six years, five, six years. But when we got to 35, we went 35 to 60. And that's, that's not good because that means they're not traveling. That part of the family, which is, which is us, I know you all are 55 now, I mean, but, but, but, but, you watch your mouth. No, I gotta, I gotta remember my, I gotta remember my, my big cousins. You know, like, you gotta think, we got first cousins who are almost 70 now and all the way down to, the doubt of being born. You estimate me around that. So, so, so, so we need to get that generation at 50 and under more involved. We gotta try to get them to Atlanta. And I think, I think that's something that we need to push. We got Roderick, Roderick is, is really energetic about this reunion. And, he's, he, he stays in touch with this younger generation pretty good. Kashana is very energetic about it, about it. And she's, she's gonna push it in just like I told them in the meeting. I said, every time I did something, the older generation helped me. Like, when I called you and I had to picnic at El Dorado Park, you came, I said, Junior, bring this, you brought stuff. My mother, my father, Witty, Linda, I mean, I couldn't do it without them because they brought, I mean, like, I would get there in the morning, and buy the ribs and stuff to start. But then, as it went on, when people bring stuff, at least we had something to start eating while people arrived. Then, by the end of the day, everybody was taking plates home, you know, and, and, and that's what we need to get back to, just let the kids know we're gonna help them. Right. And, and that, that we're gonna support them, you know, and then, and then, I think that's, that can be a key. But if we can get everybody motivated and push this Atlanta reunion, I think the next one should be maybe closer or whatever, but, but, let's, let's push this Atlanta reunion, let's, let's, let's support Roderick and, and, and whoever he have on that team. I think, I think we said we're gonna try to get a leader from every city, like one person. And we're gonna try to get somebody from L.A. and, and, or maybe, maybe the L.A. will be Southern, Southern California and then Northern California, like that. And then so, and I think that the leader should be somebody in the 50 and over. energetic, who'd like to do music and pray for everybody. No, I think, I think we should have somebody like that as a leader because, and then I got all the, pretty much the tools to keep you communicating with everybody. And then, in San Francisco, we got people, you know, who, who are, who are ready. And we need to, it's time now. It's time. You know, we, it's like after, after Mama Daisy, to me, it's like it fell apart a lot. And right now, it's time to bring this family back together. Let's, let's, let's, let's start supporting everybody. You know, we, we don't need any crabs in a barrel. You know what I'm saying? You know, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's get everybody together. Oh, you got something to say? Okay. Okay. I agree with what you're saying. And I think our young, younger generation has to start, they have a hard time planning past the immediate, moment. So, you know, the reunion's two years away. Two years to, to a 20 year old is like a hundred years. To me, two years is, it's, it's there tomorrow. You know? And so I think the only way that they're going to learn is like what you're saying. They have to have somebody mentor them and actually take them and say, okay, you know, kind of coddle them and kind of push them along. Or the two years is going to be here and we're going to be sitting in the same thing, having the same type of discussion. Because they're not in the same, the same world. Yeah, we're in, you know, and they don't understand that. But if they're going to carry the family on, you know, it has to be that somebody has to mentor them and actually push them, you know, and they don't like to be pushed, but they have to, they have to show them how to rake the leaves. Show them how to rake the leaves. You know, and push them to do it. And then they'll see what the rewards are because once you, once you get there and you see, you know, and you've accomplished it. Once you work for it. Well, you work for it and you see, you feel good about yourself and about what happened. Yeah, well, what I was really disappointed when we went to Sweetport, we have so many people on Mama's side and most of the people there was on my father's side. And so I was saying, you know, your family, why didn't you come? Even though you're on Mama's side, you're still family. And I said, they said, well, they didn't invite us in. Yeah. They didn't talk to none of them. They said, well, we, you know, we're having a family union all the week. Didn't put it on Mama's side. So many friends and things there that probably would have came to the new union. If they just had us there, we're having a family union. We want all the family to get together so we can go. They there. So a lot of people's like, see, but that's like, like a lot of people that I, you know, I wanted to see, you know, even, even on my mom's side. Yeah. The church that Herman and Rogers didn't tell that was married to George Lee. They didn't tell one of the church members and she said, huh? She said she was going to kill him because she didn't know anything about it. She didn't know about it. They didn't tell her anything about it. Yes. I don't want to call no name. Well, I say name. I like to say name. Last minute. And I know I love her and I love the kids and everything. And I didn't get the chance to see them. So when I got there, they said the last minute they told them you're going to come to the picnic or you're going to do that the last minute. So they said no. So I went out to church. They was going to come to the hotel so they could see us. So, but, while we going out to dinner at the church and they went to hotel so Linda and Winnie, not Winnie because she didn't go but Linda and Jeanette they got a chance to see them. And you didn't, you couldn't see them? I didn't get a chance to see them. Oh, okay. So I talked to her. They said, we're going to make a trip. That was a shame too is that Roderick was saying that a lot of times that people are going all out and then they don't have a good turnout but maybe they're not getting, a good turnout because they're not putting the word out to enough people. And I, I mean, I don't know but, it is, you know, a lot of, a lot of people are on hard times and stuff and it's expensive to go It's expensive. all the way to Atlanta. It's going to be, it's going to be expensive. You have to start planning now. Yeah. But I'm just saying, yeah, a lot of people don't think like that. Well, you know, what I looked at about that, about the young generation going to Atlanta is that the ones that were there, this year, 19 years old. So, and, and when we go to Atlanta, they're going to all be 21 years old. I mean, all the ones we said were, were, they were, they were going to be the, leaders. They're going to be the 20, 21 or 22 years old. So, so I think, this, this, it's, it's very important. I mean, I don't know how to say but it's really important that we get them now because if we don't get them now, when they turn 20 years old, they're going to find something else to do. They're going to, they're going to stop, being around family. That's funny. My kids, like, I used to have to make her come go do stuff and make my, my oldest son, I never caught him, but, but, but this one, Tyra and Tyree, my two kids, she want to go everywhere we go now because she's realized her family is fun too. You know, sometimes people say, oh, my friends are fun. I'm just going to be with my friends, you know, and then if you come around your family, you're going to have more fun. I think I learned more with my family than I did with my kids. I think I learned more than I did with my kids. I think I learned more than I did with my kids. I think I learned more than I did with my kids. I think I learned more anywhere, you know, as a kid, growing up, you know, adolescent stuff. Well, you got to be brought up in that too. I don't think that's something that, that, you know, one day they just said, my friends are more fun. I mean, if you, if you bring up a child in, in, in that, you know, family environment, then I think that they don't mind that, but I think then they reach an age. I think they reach an age. that they do want to hang with their friends and stuff. And I think that's, that's perfectly, uh, natural. But if you give them an opinion, if you give them the option, yeah, give them, give them an opinion because I think if you, if you control your kids completely, that's when they drift away from. You mean if you lock it, you lose it? Was that, is that in the song, right? Yeah. If you, if you control them, then that's how you lose them. But if you, if you, understand because with, with my kids, my kids know I'm not your friend, I'm your father. Okay. And, and the way I raised them is look, you're going to have more fun with me because I'm going to make sure you're okay. But if you go out on your own, you're going to be stuck, you know, because you don't know what's going to happen. Nobody's going to care about you as much as your parents will. So I know she's starting to realize it more, but, but you know, you look at too, something very important is that you have two parents in the household. Oh, yes. And it is very important. Yeah, that's a good thing. Me and my wife. See, that's what, that's what I wanted, you know, to kind of, to get on that thing, how important that is to try to teach the children where, you know, we don't see marriage or view marriage as being important anymore or even the same sex, marrying the same sex, that's not important anymore. All this stuff is being thrown out the window. And, it's, it's a reason for a lot of the things going on. Like you were saying, people being disinterested in what family does is because they don't have it. One parent has to go out and work and somebody's gonna look after that kid or they're gonna look after themselves or they're gonna be with their friends or whatever like that. So, I mean, we can sit here and talk like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but, in reality, it's cruel out there. It's brutal. It is. Well, you know, it's funny what you were, what you were saying, Tony, was, you know, my grandson, the one that came with us, you know, he's just a really quiet kind of withdrawn type thing. But I was taking him to school the other day and he said, out of, out of nowhere, and he doesn't even say much. Sometimes we can drive all the way to school and not one word said, you know, unless I ask a question. That's just him. And he said, when's the next family reunion? Two years? And I go, yeah. He says, and it's in, it's in Atlanta, right? And I go, yeah. He says, well, we're going, aren't we? And I says, well, did you have fun, David? And he says, oh yeah, I was telling all my friends. I really had a lot of fun. And yet, we kept thinking, he didn't have no fun. You know what? I'm glad you mentioned him. I just opposed him for everything. You know, Cole, take the picture. But you know what? That first two days. I stayed on him. He was like this. I just love him. He's so sweet. He got up. Yeah. Later on, he got up and he was, I seen him, I said, oh, look at him. He's getting up now. But you know, but that's, like I say, that's what I'm talking about. That's our fault. Our older generation's fault because when I was coming up, I knew every, okay, I'm going to say the name. I knew all the Riversiders. Okay? There wasn't anything. The Riversiders. But I knew everyone. But you knew them all. I knew everyone. And then, when you guys had kids, like when Derek and Sammy came, I knew them. You know what I'm saying? I knew them. But now, if I take my daughter to Derek's house right now, she probably don't know anything. She probably doesn't know enough. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She just knows, she probably knows Darren, of course, and she might, I think she's seen Sammy and she's seen the rapper. What's the other one? Oh, Dominique. Dominique, yeah. Dominique, because Dominique wanted to make a record with her. You know what I'm saying? Dominique wants to. I want to make a record with her. She can sing real good. You know, so I'm saying, but still, that's our fault because I tried to, I mean, I tried to get everybody together to have these picnics and stuff and they got, that's hard. But see, but we still need to go have these all night card parties and the kids get mad at us because we wake up the next day, we wake up, mom and dad gone and they come back over to Starback playing cards again. You know, we used to, you remember that. I mean, I'm saying like, that's how I used to be back then because we, but we was all, always together. I mean, I mean, I remember going, fights, oh, they get, but one thing about it back then, of course, people got in fights, but they, it was, it was over the next day. It was real. Real fight. I mean, come on, knives and stuff. What's that? I don't remember all of that. Oh, okay. Oh, you don't remember when mama got hit over the head with an RC bottle? I think Uncle Kenny did it. Who? He hit my mama in the head. No, I don't think everybody would blame everything on Mary. But, but you know, that's, that's, that's true because I remember anytime something going on, you know, you always call us at, at Linda call us and Georgia may call and we try to make as much as we can make and it's like when the kids were younger and stuff, they just went with us. I mean, they were, you know, especially Sam. Sam was, you know, he was like Darren was real, real quiet and stuff and hung right around us and stuff. Derek was always out there the social butterfly like Dominique is and stuff. But now, you know, it's like, you know, I ask any of them, you know, who wants to come? You know, Darren says, I want to go and I'm like, okay, it's going to be a long drive. So everybody's trying to work and trying to get the other ones were trying to work. They wanted to go, but it's, it's, it's going to happen with them as well. You know, they, they got it, you know, they're going to be like dad, you know, I mean, dad is going to try to give them everything, but you come to a point where you want your own. But these are, one thing about, find you a good man. One thing about this Facebook thing, is that, one thing about the Facebook thing about the family though too, is that when the kids, if we, if we just bring them together, they're going to get on, in Instagram together. They're going to get on Facebook together. And that's how they're going to meet each other. It's a different type of, type of meeting now that technology is totally different. But, but if we bring them together, they're going to, they're going to learn, learn how to get, keep in contact with each other. I mean, we used to write letters and talk on the telephone, you know. Remember that thing that you used to pick up at your house? Oh yeah. I had a wire. I had a wire. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. We used to, we used to do that. But then, I noticed that the kids are, are even, stronger on Facebook. I kind of monitor what goes on with the family. So I notice the kids are talking to each other more. And especially, Melanie's grandson. Is that her son or grandson? Melanie in Louisiana? One that plays tennis. I mean, he was, he was, he was, I think his, I think it's her son. It blew his mind how many cousins he had. He said, oh, I got cousins. And see, you know, he's, I ain't being prejudiced. He's a well-spoken black guy, right? So, so, so, so he was, so he was used, he was shocked to see the, he had cousins who didn't speak, I guess, country slang. You know, the difference between California slang. You know what you guys, you just call me Riverside. Y'all talk so proper. Yeah, y'all talk so proper, dear. We talk, and then you, could you imagine when he heard your, your proper speaking or California speaking and then the country speaking and then how he spoke to the kids that he was with. So he was like, wow, you know, because she said he didn't want to come around. Nobody thought I was going to go home. Yeah, he, he didn't want to go home after that. I thought I was the only one. He wanted to stay here. But, but, but like I said, it's our fault if we don't teach the kids. If we don't show them how to read the books, then, then a future will be lost. Yeah, Melody, I, I've fallen in love with her and her family. Yeah, her family is very nice. She like told me the story of Melvin and, and coming out here and, you know, that, that was one of the things, you know, that, that like Nish was saying, everybody just kind of gets you and embrace you. And, and, it, it is, it's perfect. You know, when, when you get with your family and, and it feels good and, you're not really worrying about too much. You know, you just get, you know, you get with your family and everything's good. And, I had a good time, you know, like telling Denise, I wish Shante could have went because, she hasn't ventured, you know, out that way. But, you know, telling her about the ditches, and, about certain things, and, and, and that. But, it, it was an awesome time. But, yeah, I think, like, we do need to support Roderick. How do you say his name? Roderick or Roderick? I think it's Roderick. Roderick? It's R-O-D-E-R-I-C. R-O-D-E-R-I-C. R-I-C. I asked him to call Lee and I thought he would. Yeah, I wanted, I wanted Crawford. It's pretty late. I, you know, I actually, I forgot to call Crawford. But, yeah, this, well, we need to support him because I don't, you know what, we need to support all of them. I don't know who's on his team as far as who's going to help him with the, I'm pretty sure they're all. Well, I'm going to try to participate more. you know, we got, he, he stepped up and that's what they were looking for. Somebody to step up and take, basically, control. He, he stepped up and took control. They didn't like the way he stepped up, but he stepped up. But he did. So somebody had to do it. Well, you know what, you know what, I'll put it like this and then, and then I'll, I'll, when he did what he did, that show, okay, look, you're going to do this. Okay. You got to make it happen. Now, that doesn't mean we got to make him do it by himself. See, see, see, and see when, I'll often go into a different story, but look, we need to support him. So, so everybody, we need to like, like, like, like, if somebody want to take charge, support them. Well, the thing of it is, is like, people got their feelings hurt and things wasn't maybe done the way they should have been done. And, and I, I, I talk with him myself. So, I mean, I'll sit here and I'll say, I'll be the first one to say, I didn't appreciate what he said and how he did. I thought, I thought he was out of line. I talked, I talked to him, but even the people that got their feelings hurt, and I'm talking about the older generation, said we need to support him. So, and see, that's, that's what the deal is, is that, no, you know, he, he, he made it, sound like us old people ain't doing nothing and us old people ain't crap and we ain't going to have nothing, you know, we're going to go to Atlanta and we ain't going to have nothing to do. But, they still said, nah, I ain't saying no names. They did say, we need to support him. Yeah, we need to support him. Because, because sometimes, like, like when people jump, jump out there in the middle of the street, people say, okay, let's see what they going to do now. Let's see what they going to do. Okay, we can't do that as a family because they say, oh, you think you can do it? Okay, but we're going to give you all, all the tools. Let's see. You need this much money? Okay, we're going to help you. And if he make it happen, you know, just apply to him. Say it's good. And then we need to, no, I'm actually, I'm saying him, but I'm talking about the young people. No, I'm saying it's going to happen because it's like, that's what we're talking about right now. When you got support and you got people walking in the same direction, you know, then it's going to happen. Yeah. So it's not, if he can make it happen because it's already happened. It's happening right now. Well, this family, you know, we, we, we're going to support people anyway, but I think, I think that, uh, in some situations, you can see that you don't get the support. I mean, you can, you can see when, you can see when you try to get something together and you may get sabotaged in certain things. Oh, no, you said, you said that, that people are not only not supporting you, but trying to sabotage you as well. Well, but you know, I think, but I think that's, that's just, you know, that's kind of human nature a lot of times. And I mean, so even though, even though it's family, I think that's just, just, that's going to happen. No, that's just evil. It's just evil. No, no, that is evil. I don't know. I'm just saying, if someone is trying to do something, that person shouldn't be sabotaged. You tell me, name them. We don't have people like that. Okay. Everything, everything, everything is a conspiracy. So, so, everything is a conspiracy. So you just have to learn how to deal with the conspiracy and then you got to keep God in your heart. You got to pray hard. Like, because, because me, I, who, Lord, I prayed so hard. You say, who, Lord? I mean, you don't know. I mean, I've been through a lot. Okay. And what I've been through a lot and then I try to be the person I can be, have bad health issues and stuff, you know, and this family mean a lot to me. Like I saw people and it's like, when I see us not supporting each other, I mean, like, you got a handful of people who will support each other. This handful will support, each other. And family, see, when a family can't break off in cliques, it's impossible for a family to break off in cliques. It's not impossible. I think it happens a lot. Well, well, that's why the family is broken apart. It shouldn't happen. Those families are broken apart. Right. The families who don't break off in these cliques are stronger. You know, you can always have a bad seed. I mean, you know, you got to, that comes, that's just, you know, part of life. You know, it's part of life. It's part, you can always have a bad seed, but we need to support each other because, because I will support anybody in this family the best way I can. Now, right now, with my health issues, I can't do no monetary things for the family because I'm trying to pay my bills now myself because I've been out of work a year. And I'm going back to work soon. But I will definitely give you praise. I will definitely pray for you. I put, I put a scripture on Facebook every day. I've been doing it for probably the last three years. And then, that scripture means more to me than what I, what I, what I, what I, what I, what I, what I, what I, what I, what I, because it's, that's just a scripture I read, but I'm with a Bible study thing that's connected to that phrase each day that I go through and talk to other people. But, and I pray for the family the whole time. I pray for the children. I pray for the older generation because I already know they're praying for me so I'm just giving a little bit back to the older generation. And so what, what, what we have to do, we just gotta show the support because I feel like, well, you guys, and if the, OJ, if you guys get on this live stream and listen, or listen to it later, I love you. And I thank you all for raising me. Because I call all my aunties and uncles pops and moms. Because to me, I was raised by all of them. And my mother and father made me realize that this is one family. And the kids need to realize that. And, well, we need to show them. We can't realize. We got to just show them that it means more than that. And we need to support them. And that's my thing. If anything will come out of this whole family reunion meeting that we had today, is that let's show support, even for the ones who think they can do it all, or think they can't do it all, let's support them. Let's teach them how to rake. I think that's going to teach them how to rake the leaves. Because. If we show them we have a future in this family. And the future is not for us. It's for them. You know, it's like we can say, like, Mama Daisy's gone. But guess what? You know so much about her because you heard her talk about it as a child so much. Denise, since you've been in the family, you know. Since my father's been in the family, when he was dating my mom, back then he knew about Mama Daisy. And then my mom, of course, that's her mother. But we don't know about it. And then me being my age. I'm a third generation. What are we, third generation? Fourth generation? I don't know. I got it. I'm lost. I'm like over 55. So I. Whatever generation we are, I know everything about his mom. He know everything about my mom. Auntie Jeanette, Winnie, Herman, Albert, Joe, you know, Rogers, Melvin. I mean, I know so much about them because I was taught that. And so now. I'm. I'm. I need to teach my daughter about everybody in the family. And then when I say turn, that's your cousin. You know, it's funny. Junior, but his real name is Willis Boyd. You know, I say, you know, but you got to let them know stuff like that. That's what I'm. That's what I'm thinking about. There was somebody at the reunion. And I don't remember if it was Crawford or who it was that said, how did I fit in? How did I belong to the family? And I think it was Crawford was telling. He was telling his his daughters. How does she belong to the family? Here? Because, you know, obviously, I'm not like everybody else, you know. So he was going through. Well, she's married to, you know, to Junior. And, you know, this is, you know, this is her grandson here. But, you know, that's the only way, you know, because that's what I'll sit and I'll say, OK, who is this person and how are they related to the family? And I want to know. But I know all the Crawford kids know who you are. Oh, yeah. Everybody. Because, you know, I remember. You know what I see? We went to we went to Winco this morning in this little black. Girl walked out with her mom and her sister and she was carrying this white doll with a whole bunch of blonde hair. And that's what they used to love about her. They met her was her hair. She had they said she had doll hair. They had that many black dolls back in the day. They really didn't. So they would all just get around her and just start playing with her hair because she had doll hair. But, you know, back to what you were saying about, you know, supporting Roderick and stuff. You know, the family is no different. Than any other entity that we have, whether it's your work group, your church group or anything else. The group is only as strong as the weakest person is. And if you want that group, you know, to be successful at something, you have to help mentor and bring up that weaker person so that the whole group can be stronger. So if if we stand back and say, you know, because he showed his, you know, whatever at the family reunion, which is fine. Maybe that's the way he communicates and stuff. You know, that's that's his prerogative. But for us to stand there and say, you know, well, you know, maybe see where your mouth is, you know, money, put your money where your mouth. And that's what I'm just hoping that will happen. It's not going to happen. How is it going to happen? Because I think we all know much dust. You know, it's not going to happen. But we have to we have to say, OK, everybody has everybody has shortcomings. We all have our weak points and stuff. But we want the family reunion to be every year to be better and better and better. It doesn't matter where it's at or who's in charge or whatever. The only way that can be is all of us support whoever step forward. You know, and then we got to support each other and then support each other so that we can have a good time. That's I was we were saying, Roger, but I was more or less. Let's let's support who's ever going to try to be in charge. I mean, you know, if you get a team together, let's support them. And it's kind of weird because a family union, you got to almost think this is a business, not family. When you're trying to plan stuff. Exactly. Because if you say, OK, well, it's family union. You get mad at one person. You want. Stop everything. We can't let that happen. We got it. We have to say, OK, this family union. But it's like a business right now. So no matter what happens, we might have an argument one day. But don't say I'm out of the family. I don't want to be in a family anymore because basically you can't get out the family. If you're in a family, you know, you got to get blood in, blood out. You know, I'm part of the family and I'm not blood. But you guys are my family. Well, well, well, well, just like they say, we plant roots. You know, OK, so anything. You want to say, Uncle Roosevelt? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, come on. Say something. I'm just listening. I mean, are we making sense? Yeah, yeah. You are making sense. But I'm just listening. Oh, yeah. I know you listen good. You're a good listener. But we need to. I mean, you might have one or two years on me. OK, so, I mean, are we doing all right? I mean, as far as the direction that we're talking about. I'm enjoying what you two are talking about. Really. OK, but we're going. You think we're going in the right direction as far as trying to tighten up this thing. We covered Louisiana reunion. And thanks to Tony, we've shed some light on the up and coming Atlanta reunion. And I think what. OK, well, I hope to do just like no one from my family came. No. Nobody. There come. There come. Joe. From Joe family came. So now we need to get somebody, you know, for them to just keep up, you know. And that's what Tony was saying. And that's what I was about to say is that we have to make a conscious effort to try to see who wants to come and who's serious about coming. And then put activities or fundraisers in place to see if they want. If they're serious about doing something, then they're going to. And then we're going to have to see if they want to come and participate in the things that we got going here. And so if they're if they're participating in something working for a way to get to Atlanta, then then chances are then they're going to want to go to Atlanta. But if they're just saying, yeah, I want to go, I want to go. But they're not putting out anything. Then we need to just leave them alone. And I'm not saying that in a bad way, but I'm saying, you know, it's definitely we got to get everybody to sit around and say, you know, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're going to talk. Talk pretty. And yes, and that. But but yeah, action is is what it is. So and that's what I'm saying is like we need to get together and try to find ways to help the people that want to come but can't afford to come make it. And that Atlanta is going to be a challenge. And it's going to be a challenge. I think it's definitely going to be a challenge. But I think that. It's because these kids are getting older. And in the ones like if we can just get the people who always go in and add the kids who are available. Old enough to help their parents. Get them there. Like. Like. My son. It's. It was so nice. We would have to pay for. It was good. My. Well, you don't have to pay for. So pretty. Always. It's. It's. It's. It's. Yeah, did you see his car? He got a brand new car. I mean, I've been on the Facebook looking for pictures. You know what, dog? Yeah, that's his car. He just bought that car in 2015. I ain't on none of them Facebooks. My own kids. I'm like, look at all these Facebooks trying to do research. Oh, no, but I... I've seen it on Facebook. I'm like, why? Sammy has a Facebook, too. The hate is real. Oh. He's not into that at all. He doesn't like... I think he used to. He used to have one. I had him on here before. I had him on here. But, yeah, I guess that's probably the plan. Now, anybody got... We only got like three minutes. Can we get some closing comments from... Shout-outs, too, if you want. Shout-outs, if you got a business you want to... I really enjoyed this talk, and I hope when we meet in Atlanta that everything will go well. You're going to pray for that. Pray for it. Okay. Pray every day for everybody. Tony? And I already know that God is watching over us. He's going to make this a blessed time for us all. And I tell people to put the spirit over the younger people. Make them get more involved. Younger people 50 and under to get more involved. I know he'll give them the spirit and everything will be nice. Roosevelt! Oh, well, I'm just listening as you are. Okay. You know, you just listened, but did it go well? You thought it went well? It was... How do you say... There's a word I'm looking for here. Somebody help me. Okay, let's move on. Amber! Yeah, I think that Atlanta is going to be cool because I'm going to be a part of the younger people. It's going to help out. And she'll be one of the 21 years. Yeah. Well, you know, we can't wait for that. How many years till 21? Two. No, we can't wait for that. You know what I mean? You'll be 21 and you can go and turn up, but we need to start now. The 21 thing, I'm throwing that all out the window. And how about you? Oh, okay. I'll be like turning 18. So I wouldn't be able to do anything like that. Yeah, I think in Atlanta, you can turn 18. You can turn up at 18. I hope so. It's not the party aspect of the 21. It's just that you guys would be adults and you'd be able to, you know, do everything by yourself. Yeah. I love my family. There you go. Anise? Time's up. We're out? We've got 40 seconds. 40 seconds. Oh, okay. I'm going to say this. This is our last show and I'm going to say what I always say. Shante? I just want to thank you guys for listening. We've been doing this, what, about a year? Mm-hmm. Yeah, so just thank you all for supporting. Thanks again to Melvin and Earlene and all the guests that we've had on the show this entire time. We appreciate it. And we are never more like our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and when we are loving, forgiving, and creating. Whoa, man. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.