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Outro Music So y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way along.
Yeah!
I said a hip hop, the hippity, the hippity, the hip hip hop And you don't stop, a rocker to the bang bang boogie Say up, jump the boogie to the rhythm of the boogity beat Now what you hear is not a test, I'm ripin' to the beat And me, the groove, and my friends are gonna try to move your feet See, I am Nestorius and I'd like to say hello To the black, to the white, the red, and the brown, the purple, and yellow But first, I gotta bang bang the boogie to the boogie Say up, jump the boogie to the bang bang boogie Let's rock, you don't stop, rock the rhythm that'll make your body rock Well, so far you've heard my voice, but I brought two friends along And next on the mic is my man Simon, so come on Simon, sing that song Oh yo, it's the S, the I, the M-O-N If you didn't hear once, then I'll tell you again Don't make me grab a pen and write this rhyme Stab you up in the eye and then take my time When I'm the type of guy, cause I'm too fly Yo, I came through, what the fuck you gonna do?
I wanna send a shout out to my man Dark Mark Yo, we comin' after the show and you know we gotta spark up Cause he poured me a little absinthe from Italy and the shit I'm about to get Yo, drinkin' absinthe, not givin' a fuck, yo I used to be absent in school, but now I flow I do what I do, I hang out with Rich Corbin in the studio So pass on the mic And the beat ends there You gotta pass the mic to Rich Yo, Dark Mark gave me absinthe, dude, I'm fuckin' drinkin' Italian absinthe Yo, Dark Mark gave you Italian absinthe Italian absinthe, dude, clear your calendar Big up to Dark Mark and the whole Spank crew You know what I'm sayin'?
Whippity-doo-dat, you don't stop Anyway Yeah, clear your calendar, y'all Drinkin' absinthe, bringin' it to ya Tellin' it to ya Tellin' it to ya Tellin' all your children what they're supposed to do with their motherfuckin' lives Yeah, yeah, yeah Stay in school, do your homework, read up Smoke the ganja, man Thursday night, yo Welcome to the Nestorius Public Radio Show We're here live every Thursday night From 9 to 10 p.m.
Pacific Standard Time On skidrowstudiosdown.com Beautiful, we're live in beautiful, sunny, shitty, gritty downtown Los Angeles If you are so inclined, and you have paid your cell phone bill You can reach us at 800-893-9562 Not gonna expect that But, you know, just in case You know what I'm sayin'?
Just in case there's two Yeah And the electric book If you have one of those phones that actually makes a call Your phone, it cooks toast Yeah You know, it downloads It reaches the internet It tells you where the cheapest gas is It tells you where your girlfriend's blowing your best friend But it don't fuckin' make a call Yeah Yeah, exactly But if you happen to have one of those phone calls You know those, you know those fuckin' If you have one of those fuckin' phones You know what I'm sayin'?
Those You know Yeah, you know Yo, you know what I understand?
You know what pisses me off?
People are like, oh, I don't answer block calls Who the fuck are you, the queen of England?
Yeah, yeah How does paparazzi are buggin' you?
Hello, hello Hello I don't answer calls Hola, hola, hola, como estas?
No, no quieres Quien habla?
Quien?
Hello, hello Thank you for calling us Skidaro Studios Skidaro Studios Skidaro Studios Skidaro Studios Anyway, anyway Yo, if somebody calls you from a number, you're gonna be like Pick it up and say, hello, who is this?
And then they'll be like, hi, this is And then you'll know who the fuck it is And then you'll be like, you're calling the wrong Yo, you wanna hear some crazy shit?
Nah, I'm not gonna get into that Yeah, you are No, I'm not No, I ain't People wanna hear some crazy shit So, so I was doing some research Cause I got an email from the One of the producers of the show About this trans, transsexual porn star Right?
That is looking to do shows You know, to do shows here on Skidaro And then kinda like get a tour of the show The studio So I'm like, I wrote the PR person a letter I figured, fuck man, we can use a tranny X-rated star here to interview her You know what I mean?
I don't know anything about transsexual porn Neither does Simon Yeah, I mean, it's hard to get a good tranny these days Well, I mean, I find it fascinating Anyway, so I start Googling her And I'm watching fucking some tranny porn Right?
Just to see who she is And somebody knocks on my door Right?
Now I'm in my shorts and no shirt And fucking slid Slippers Somebody knocks on my door Now you know I got a doorbell When somebody's like So I'm like, who the fuck is this?
I open up the door There's two of the most God-ugliest fucking white chicks at the door They're Mormons Sure They're fucking They're handing out Mormon pamphlets And I look at her I look at them right off the bat I said, right now is not a good time It's not a good time I'm watching tranny porn He said that to you Yeah, right now Right now Right now It's not a good time You understand me?
Come back later You know what I mean?
That's it Yo, you know what I'm a big fan of?
What?
Mormon tranny porn Mm-hmm Yeah Where they, you know, Mormon trannies are just huge Well, there's multiple trannies there for one married guy Yeah Where you just, you know I get it Yeah I get it You do it for the Lord Yep, I get it More Yeah Mormon Gang-banging chicks with dicks in the name of Jesus Yeah Yeah, yeah That's what I'm talking about Gang-banging chicks with dicks in the name of Jesus Gang-banging chicks with dicks in the name of Jesus Gang-banging Chicks with dicks Gang-banging for the Lord Yeah Followed by refreshments in the social hall Yes, yes, yes Yes And some Bible study Yes Bible study will be at seven Followed by a Mormon tranny gang-bang Yes Which will be followed by tea and cookies In the And herbal tea Yeah In the Edward Shmulewitz social hall Okay All right All right Are we gonna move on now?
I think it's time to move on Are we gonna move on?
Are we gonna move forward to like the serious part?
Because we gotta start the show a little wacky, you know what I mean?
So, we're gonna continue the dialogue this week on, you know, the racism dialogue that we've been having the past couple of weeks Started two episodes ago with Donald Sterling and all this other stuff And last week we were talking about affirmative action in Michigan Banning affirmative action in college admissions And, you know, I think I got a little riled up about it, you know And I read an article with different opinions that kinda surmised everything that we were trying to say last week So I'm gonna read about four paragraphs, three paragraphs And then we can comment on them or just move on But this article kinda represents the pros and the cons of the affirmative action ban Whether affirmative action, you know, whether Banning affirmative action is a discriminatory move or is affirmative action really necessary, you know, 50-something years after it was originally initiated?
Depends on what side of the moon you live on.
Right, right.
Hey, yo, bus it.
So Chief Justice John Roberts and the court's conservatives like to pretend we're now in a colorblind nation, said Dahlia Lithwick in Slate.com.
But in Sotomayor's dissent, which, by the way, Sotomayor was the one that wrote this, read this whole fucking thing against the senators.
And tell them who they are.
Tell them who she is.
She's a Supreme Court justice, Sonia Sotomayor.
She's the first Puerto Rican, the first SPIC to ever be allowed to pass judgment in the Supreme Court.
Mira!
Lo que te estoy diciendo que deja de estar.
No te estoy jodiendo aquí, puñeta.
OK?
Yo te dije que deja de estar jodiendo allí en la pared porque te voy a dar tres chancletazos en la cara y eso va a estar la justicia.
OK?
Some judges keep a 44 Magnum under the robe.
She keeps a chancleta.
That's who Sonia Sotomayor.
Actually, I'm going to reread that again.
But when Sonia Sotomayor, I didn't know who she was when she was voted in.
I'm such a fucking, you want to talk about a bigot?
I'm such a bigot.
The first thing I thought.
Was that she was going to come out and she was going to be like, hello, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you very much for letting me take care of your children and mowing your lawn.
It has been a long, arduous road for me to be the Supreme Court justice.
I am really honored that you let me do it.
Pacifically, a Puerto Rican and a woman.
I promise to uphold the law and be the.
Best.
Juice.
Justice.
Representative.
That your money can buy.
That's what I thought.
And the bitch comes out and she's highly educated, man.
This woman is like.
Anyway.
It's weird to have someone intelligent on the Supreme Court.
Especially when, you know, it is.
Yeah.
It is.
Anyway, so let me go back.
Chief Justice John Roberts and the court's conservatives like to pretend we're now in a colorblind nation, said Dahlia Lithwick in Slate.com.
But in Sotomayor's dissent, which she chose to read out.
Loud.
She sharply reminded her white male privileged colleagues race matters.
Even today, she said young black and Hispanic students come from homes with rates of unemployment and poverty, double those of whites.
And when they try to compete at the highest levels, still face daily slights, snickers and silent judgments that make them think I do not belong here to Sotomayor.
This is no abstract legal argument.
Having grown up in a poor Puerto Rican family in the Bronx.
She personally benefited.
From affirmative action.
Eventually graduating summer cum laude from Princeton.
So we go on.
But discriminating on the basis of race inevitably creates a problem of elementary fairness, said John Paul.
Putt Horace putt Horace in the New York Post.
Why should a talented and hardworking white child of a poor waitress lose out to an upper middle class minority student whose grandparents suffered discrimination decades after the election?
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That's why today's affirmative action should focus on class, not race, said Richard D.
Kallenberg in NewYorkTimes.com.
Skin color is no longer a clear indicator of privilege, but wealth certainly is.
The income-based achievement gap is now twice the size of the race-based achievement gap.
Meanwhile, 92% of black students at elite colleges come from families in the top half of income distribution.
Clearly, both black and white students at the bottom of the economic scale are being left behind.
Class is important, but it's also not enough, said Jamel Aboui in Slate.com.
While Americans like to imagine a future of mixed-race mutts where color distinctions disappear, the reality is that the country remains highly segregated.
The vast majority of blacks, including those with middle-class incomes, live in neighborhoods with high crime rates, low property values, and poorly funded schools.
And despite the progress of some African Americans, most remain poor, with four in five coming from homes in the bottom 40% of income distribution.
Black kids who grew up...
grow up in poverty start out with a huge disadvantage.
And it strongly affects their performance in high school and on standardized tests, so critical in college admissions.
Consider class alone, and you'll miss this entirely.
Anyway, those are, you know, pro and con arguments on what we were talking about last week.
And I think they were well covered there.
So I just wanted to, you know, bring forth...
I wanted to bring forth...
I wanted to bring forth the enlightenment of the dissolution!
Nah, man!
No Jamaican!
No white Jamaican dreadlock motherfucker coming to my college, man!
If you're black, you need to smoke the ganja first before you get admitted into a higher learning association, man!
You know, if they start working on, like, income, because there are a lot of income-based and all that, but then if they get rid of affirmative action based on race and go on economic status, they're going to have some sort of...
You know, there's going to be a race issue with that as well, because there's going to be a lot of, you know...
There's going to be a lot more whites getting in there as well, probably.
So then they're going to have to do some kind of affirmative action within the affirmative action.
There's going to be a race thing within the class issue.
My argument last week was that...
It's actually called reversed racism is what affirmative action is.
So you're basically making it easier...
I don't believe in reverse.
Reverse racism?
That's okay.
Racism is racism.
I don't care.
You look at it up, and that's what it's called.
Yeah, I know.
It's bullshit, though.
I hear you.
I hear you.
But one can argue, then, why should you have...
I mean, I don't want to argue again.
Yeah, no, no.
We're not arguing.
We were talking...
No, we did last week's episode.
Check out episode 47, where we discussed this.
And then, if you want to, it was an article in The Week called Affirmative Action Should Race Still Matter.
Well, I have a question.
Yes.
You know, we talk about, like, the bullying issue and how...
Bullying?
Bullying.
Bullying.
And how...
And the argument about...
No, no, listen.
Redskin.
Go ahead.
I'm just saying, we were talking yesterday about how the problem with bullying is it creates this culture where kids aren't able to compete.
Yes.
Do you think, in some way, that by having affirmative action...
Like, what about the concept of just only the strong survive?
The best, the hardest working get promoted.
I don't want to engage in that, because I want to move on to the Redskins.
We can go on for, like, 40 minutes discussing this.
I was just basically wanting to bring a professional pro and con of our discussion last week.
I don't want to continue the discussion.
I think we covered it fair enough.
There's pros and cons to it.
You know, we're going to give a big up to Maya Angelou.
A rest in peace.
And we'll discuss her life later on in the episode.
And you'll see how affirmative action had nothing to do with a black woman succeeding in America at a time when blacks were nothing.
So there's pros and pro and con arguments to the whole thing.
And I really don't want to...
I mean, I hear what you're saying, but I want to move on.
Last week, we also discussed...
The thing about...
The whole point is, is banning affirmative action racist?
It was what you brought to me the week before.
And I don't think it's racist.
Just like I don't think this big hoopla with the Washington Redskins, you know, this has been going on for years.
Where, you know, how many?
40 or something senators wrote.
To the Supreme Court or something.
No, they wrote to the NFL and to the Redskins.
That they wanted to make the owner change the name finally.
Been going on forever.
So the owner, the owner of the Redskins, Bruce Allen, the president of the Redskins organization, wrote this long letter to...
A rebuttal.
A rebuttal letter to Senator Harry Reid, who...
Who was one of the guys who wrote the letter to the NFL board last week.
So basically, he goes on to say that the term Redskins originated as a Native American expression of solidarity.
Right?
More than a decade ago, one of the foremost scholars of Native American languages, Smithsonian Institution senior linguist Ives Goddard, spent seven months researching the subject and concluded...
That the word Redskin originated as a Native American expression of solidarity by multi-tribal delegations that traveled to Washington to negotiate Native American national policies.
In his words, the actual origin of the word Redskin is entirely benign and reflects more positive aspects of relations between Indians and whites.
Our use of Redskins as the name of our football team for more than 81 years has always been respectful of and shown reverence toward the proud white people of the United States.
And I think that's what we're going to do.
And I think that's what we're going to do.
And I think that's what we're going to do.
And I think that's what we're going to do.
We're going to work toward the proud legacy and traditions of Native Americans.
Another thing he said is that the logo was designed by Native Americans.
Right.
So, in 1971, one of the Native American leaders of the United States, Walter Blackie Wetzel, Right.
was a former president of the National Congress of American Indians and chairman of the Blackfeet Indian Nation, worked to...
He was President John F.
Kennedy.
He was one of the people that helped to create the Washington Redskins logo.
Right.
Well, he worked closely with John F.
Kennedy.
in the National Movement for Civil Rights.
Mr. Wetzel's son stated that an Indian from the state of Montana created the Redskins logo and did it the right way.
It represents the red nation, and it's something to be proud of.
And so those are, I mean, he brings a couple of points.
The last thing he said was, well, the other point that I found interesting, he said an overwhelming majority of Native Americans do not find the name offensive.
The highly respected Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania surveyed Native Americans nationally and reported that an overwhelming 90% of respondents said the name was not offensive.
More importantly, Native Americans continue to embrace and use the name and logo.
Many schools on Native American reservations proudly use the Redskins name and logo.
And there's a photo here.
There's a photo here from Red Mesa High School located in the Teak Nose Post, Arizona, on the Navajo Reservation.
I think that's probably the strongest argument.
The fact that all Native American high schools are using the name and logo would mean maybe it's not offensive.
Right.
And if 90%...
Well, here's the deal.
Is it offensive or is it racist?
You see what I'm saying?
The word racist, and this is part of the dialogue that we've been having for the past three weeks here, is that the word racist...
Racist has been used to fucking describe any stupid little thing.
Well, but hold on.
When you're talking about a team logo where people are, you know, the whole city of Washington, D.C., fathers take their children to go watch the games, racist, just being offensive to the Native Americans is enough to change the logo, in my opinion.
Right.
Sure.
If it were really offensive.
Sure.
Sure.
I was going to say that.
I was going to say, if something is offensive, right, that's enough to warrant some sort of attention, right, to shed some light on it and go, well, we've offended 70% of the women.
Remember that ad that was in LAX about an Asian-themed Las Vegas nightclub?
And a bunch of women, Asian women, went up in an uproar about how it was fucking sexist, and they took the fucking sign down?
Personally, I didn't think it was offensive, but if a lot of people find it offensive, then it needs some...
Which begs the question, who the fuck is offended?
Well...
That's a lot of white people running around with a lot of white guilt or trying to...
Right.
Trying to pad their cause or their, you know, their ACLU thing or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where the fuck is the club?
Well, there's also the fact that the Redskins suck.
Every year they're predicting...
Every year they predict them to do great, and every year they fall on their faces.
So maybe if they changed their name...
I mean, like, you had the Washington Bullets basketball team, which changed their name to the Washington Wizards because they didn't want to offend people who had been, you know, shot or what have you.
There was so much crime in the Washington area that they changed their name from the Bullets to the Wizards.
Unfortunately, they've sucked ever since.
So, so, why don't you fight to change the name of the Washington Redskins to the Washington Losers?
Why don't you just do that, call it what it is, right?
Why don't you stop wasting money on free agents at the end of their career, and why don't you stop trading your entire draft for two years just to get a quarterback who tore his knee?
Right.
Stop the bullshit.
No, seriously, if you want to talk about racism...
Our sports commentary.
Our sports commentary.
Simon Kaufman.
The thing that fucking pisses me off, you know, and I'm a minority, you know what I mean?
It just fucking pisses me off because, you know, racist, everyone fucking throws a term around, like, you know...
The term racist has gotten a new meaning, essentially, in people's minds.
You know, you just say the color of somebody's skin and you're automatically, you know, racist.
Yeah.
Hello!
Hello, Skidaro, Skidaro, Skidaro, Skidaro!
I'm a racist.
I'm a racist because I made fun of an Asian language.
Yeah.
No, you're not racist because you're a minority, and minorities can't be racist.
They get to say whatever they want.
Well, you know, in Seattle, they don't call it Chinatown.
That's now considered racist.
It's the International District because...
What?
Yeah, you're not allowed to say Chinatown.
It's the International.
But when I went to the International District...
It was old.
I didn't see one Scandinavian pastry shop.
Right.
Right, right, right.
Or a Swedish massage parlor.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, I didn't see one South African...
Or a Norwegian hashish fucking cafe.
No, it's all Asians.
But, you know, their argument is, well, it's not just Chinese.
We have Koreans, we have Cambodians.
Shut the fuck up.
Let shit be the way it is.
You want to change something?
Seriously, you want to change something?
Change the way fucking kids are buying guns.
You want to change something?
Change the minimum wage.
So single mothers...
Can fucking feed their children.
So single mothers could maybe afford psychiatry for their fucking psychotic kids.
You want to change something?
Change the fucking healthcare system.
Not a bullshit way of like, oh, you have to have healthcare, you have to have that.
Fucking really change it.
Make shit affordable.
So that everybody in this country could afford fucking things that are basic.
You know what I'm saying?
You want to change something?
Change that.
Stop fucking around with racist bullshit.
Well, I think one of the things that makes America fascinating is...
We are this melting pot.
Where else in human history have people from all over the globe been thrown together in one country where everyone gets a vote and everyone has a say?
This has kind of never been done before.
And the problem with the melting pot recently is it's being brought to a boil.
Well, you know what they should call it.
That's an interesting point about the international district.
They should just call it the international states of America.
Yeah, because here's the deal.
If you're white...
Let me explain something to you.
Let me explain something to you.
If you're white in this country, you have a better chance of not being harassed in this country as an illegal alien than if you're a person of color.
If you're Mexican, if you're black and you don't have a fucking passport or you weren't born here, do the fucking math.
So you want to see who's racist?
The Department of Homeland Security, the fucking immigration fucking department of this country, they're fucking racist.
Well, one of the problems with this country is it was founded in racism.
I mean, from the beginning, we came over.
We gave disease to the Aztecs.
We gave disease to the Native Americans.
Aztecs were in Mexico.
I know, but I'm saying the whole continent was colonized.
You know what I'm saying?
People came here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You see what I'm saying?
They shot fucking herpes and fucking sperm into Aztec fucking women's eyes.
They fucking ejaculated fucking...
Didn't the Aztecs, like, weren't they extinct or gone?
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no.
But check it out.
But check it out.
Aztecs are Mexican Indians.
Right, but check it out.
Check it out.
We're going to move on.
We're going to move on.
We're going to move on.
Yes, we're going to move on.
Because what I was talking, I had a segue before, but you fucking blew it, was gun control.
We just had a serious fucking another yet another fucking mindless, possibly preventable fucking shooting spree here in Southern California.
The University of California, Santa Barbara, with his fucking psycho open fired.
And, well, he didn't open fire, but he stabbed.
He stabbed.
He stabbed.
Yeah, he opened fire.
He stabbed people.
He stabbed three of his roommates.
Yeah.
Who happened to be Asian.
Cold stabbed them in his house.
And then...
Is that racist?
No, because they were his roommates.
Oh, okay.
So that kind of...
How slow reacting were his roommates?
I mean, there's three of them, one of him, you know.
They were driving at the time.
Well, one of them...
No, no, one of them was making...
Was he playing video games?
Like, ah!
No, no, no.
Did you get them all?
No, you know what?
You know what?
Exactly.
You know what?
We're not even going to make fun of that.
That is...
I'm not making fun of it.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, that is straight up...
It's fucked up.
That is straight up...
I agree.
Fucked up.
Then he killed...
He went in front of a sorority house and opened fire and killed like three women.
And then he went in front of a cafe and I think shot one guy.
So, it's fucked up.
His father was on the news pretty much blasting the politicians and these right-wing, pro-Second Amendment, pro-gun rights.
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that they're probably responsible for this, that, you know, we need to do something about the way, you know, the accessibility of guns.
This kid was what, like 21 or something?
20?
Something to that effect?
Yeah, he was a young kid.
He was a young man.
He went into a fucking gun shop.
20 is the new 10.
Well, he went to a gun shop.
And in California, I don't know how it is in other states, you can buy a gun, right?
Rich, explain to me the process.
California has stricter laws than other states.
I believe you have to wait like 10 or 14, two weeks to get, you know, I bought a gun and I had to wait it out.
They checked it.
No, no.
What's the process?
From beginning to end.
You go in.
Get an application.
You got to fill out a background check.
Yeah, you go in.
You pick out your gun.
You take a little gun, you know, or say you're going to take a little gun class right then and there.
Right then, they'll give you a gun class?
They have gun classes.
It depends on where you go.
I went to Dick's Sporting Goods.
If you go to Walmart, they'll show you a gun class right near the watermelon section.
No, you can buy a shotgun at Walmart.
They'll show you some black people who are like, sure, I'm going to buy a shotgun.
Shoot at them.
Yeah, they'll show you the watermelon section and they'll go, wait, wait, wait, wait until July 4th and then black guys will come and start eating and you just shoot.
If you're shopping at Walmart, you already know how a gun works.
You're just buying supplies.
Okay, so you picked out your gun.
You take a bullshit, like a five minute scuba diving lesson.
So you scuba dive on your trip.
Multiple choice Q&A.
Oh, you don't even have to shoot the gun, like at a gun range to show that you actually can shoot a gun?
No.
No.
Okay, great.
So what else?
So then they process the application.
They make sure that you're not a convicted felon.
Anything under that, as long as you're not a convicted felon, you're qualified to buy and carry a weapon, right?
Yeah.
Do you have to buy a license right there from the gun shop or is that a municipality?
It's just in your name.
The gun is in your name, the serial number and all of that.
You need a concealed weapons permit, right?
You don't need a license.
To carry.
To carry.
To carry it concealed in public.
To carry, yeah.
You can own a gun and have it on your property, in your house, and you don't need a carrier's permit.
Yes.
You just need to have it registered.
It has to be, yeah, in your name and all that.
But you know what?
Rifles and shotguns, I believe- You don't have to have a concealed, but you can actually- You can just walk out the door with it.
You can, as long as they're not loaded.
Yes.
Exactly.
You can carry them out in the open as long as they're not loaded.
Yes.
So my thing is, don't you think something's wrong where anybody, when I say anybody, I mean anybody, provided that they're not a convicted felon.
Can go and get a gun.
No fucking psychological background test.
No due diligence on the part of the seller or the state or the municipality to make sure that the person can actually operate a gun.
Right?
You don't think something's wrong with that?
I think it could be a lot more specific.
They should have some sort of- You don't think something's wrong with that?
The question is, do you think something's wrong with that?
There's something wrong with everything, man.
No, no.
My question- Nothing's perfect.
Do you think something's wrong with that?
Of course there's something wrong with it.
But what are you going to do?
I don't know.
You know?
We don't got time for thoughts.
I'm asking you a question.
Are you going to pay the psychiatrist to give this- No, no, no, no, no.
A guy walks into a gun shop to buy a gun.
Hold it, hold it, hold it.
He goes in the back, lays on the couch to get his psychiatric evaluation?
Hold it, dude, dude.
I'm not asking you about whether you, who's going to pay the psychiatric fucking evaluation.
It's very simple, okay?
Who pays for a written test when you operate a vehicle?
You do.
There you go.
Who pays for the road test?
You do.
You do.
You do.
You do.
You do.
Do you have to fucking pass an eye exam to make sure that you could actually see a sign?
Yeah, but- Do you have to fucking know what a sign means when you're on the road?
Do you have to have- But what are you proposing?
A guy walks into a gun shop.
He says, I want a gun.
He says, okay, great.
I have the money.
They say, go in the back.
Dr. So-and-so will see you now.
No, no.
You lay on a couch.
You talk about your mother.
No.
Before you go in that shop, you have to have certain things.
Before you can go into that gun shop, you have to have certain credentials.
Ah, so you go get a- A psychiatric- On you.
On you.
That's on you.
You want the gun.
That's on you.
Yeah, but- Why should we have to pay?
Are you able- Those are completely- You can pass those.
Look, the cop showed up at this kid's house.
He was nice.
He was pleasant.
He fooled them.
And most psychotics and most psychopaths, they, you know, especially when they're getting- True.
True.
To their 20s, they have to blend into society somewhat.
Otherwise, I mean, if they're shooting people when they're 12, 13, 14, they're going to already be locked up.
They have some sort of like, you know, they've assimilated into society on a surface level.
But underneath, there's something fucking brewing, you know?
And then, and finally, this kid just got set off.
He had it.
He lost the will to live.
You don't think- So you're not going to find that.
Okay.
You don't think that something needs to get done.
You know what I think?
You know, honestly, you know what I think?
I think that there needs to be more guns.
You do?
I do.
Honestly.
You know why?
Because if everybody has guns or more people have guns- That's a retarded argument, Rich.
No, I don't think it is.
Yeah, it is.
No, it's not.
Yes, it is.
Because it levels the playing field.
It's retarded.
Florida.
Retarded.
Florida.
Let me tell you something.
Do you know how much the crime went down in Florida when everybody was able to carry guns around with them?
You know what the NRA's arguments are?
Here.
I think there should be more guns.
That's one of the arguments.
If everyone had a gun, no one would fucking think of going out in public and shooting people.
Well, no.
You'd be able to stop the people once it happened.
Really?
There's no- Really?
If everyone in a mall had a gun- Really?
You wouldn't be able to kill 40 people by the time- Bullshit.
You'd get taken out.
You wouldn't.
Bullshit.
Because the people who go shooting, they don't go, hey, stop.
I'm going to shoot you.
They fucking open fire without warning.
Exactly.
And you fire back.
So what do you do?
Instead of hiding under a desk- Joe over here on his 90 degrees off to the side there- Right.
He pulls out his gun- He shoots his gun and kills the shop owner that's over there because he doesn't know how to shoot a gun.
Because- Because everybody- Because everybody has a gun.
Because if everybody has a gun, then they're going to go shooting.
They're going to more than likely- And if you want to carry a gun permit, then you have to be specific.
You have to take gun classes.
You have to do all of that.
That is the extra step.
You know what?
You know what?
The other argument- There's always another argument for it because nobody- There's always going to be the opposite argument.
No, no, no.
The National Rifle Association.
Okay?
Right wing, second amendment, fucking pro gun motherfuckers.
Let me tell you.
That's one of their arguments.
That's one of the arguments that they have.
That's one of them.
Right there.
If everybody had a gun, then no one would fuck around.
Here's another one.
Most criminals don't have registered pistols.
So if you make everybody have a legal weapon or have their, you know, have to go through all sorts of stuff, you're not going to avoid a criminal from committing a crime.
You're just going to take it out of the hands of innocent people like Rich.
That's true.
The problem is- Is that not true?
The problem is- Why is that not true?
This is another wonderful and nice thing.
Because what I'm saying- Because it's not the bullets.
It's not the guns that kill people.
It's not the bullets that kill people.
It's the people who are pulling the fucking trigger.
Okay.
You still do not- And I agree with that.
You still have not addressed the issue, which is it is way too easy for anyone to get a gun.
Listen, they've made it harder and harder over the years to get guns before you could just buy a gun.
Then you could go to one of these- And you're- No, listen.
Listen.
And then you could go to these fucking swap meets or one of these gun shows and you can buy a gun.
Right.
Now you can't take a gun.
You can't do that.
They're making it harder and harder to get a gun.
And yet there's more and more killings.
So they're going the wrong way.
There's not more and more killings.
There is more and more killings.
There are more and more killings.
There's more killings.
Hear this.
Hear this thing.
There's not more and more killings because it's been harder to get a gun.
But the things that they're doing- No, no, no, no.
Listen to me.
Because the things that they're doing- No, no.
The things that they're doing isn't working.
They're going in the wrong direction.
No.
Because they're not doing anything.
That's my point.
They're not fucking- First of all, that asshole that went berserk in fucking Connecticut- 10 years ago, it was a lot easier to get a gun.
5 years ago.
10 years ago and 20 years ago.
50 years ago, it was really easy to get a gun.
So they're going in the wrong direction.
50 years ago, your grandfather would give you a gun on your birthday.
Okay, both of you guys are retarded.
No.
Yeah, you are.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, you are.
No.
Because you're missing the whole fucking point, okay?
You see the fucking Sandy Hook?
Listen, move to Canada.
You see the Sandy Hook?
I don't have guns.
You see the Sandy Hook guy?
He took his mother's weapons.
His mother's weapons were not fucking, they weren't locked.
So why does this guy who's mentally not capable of passing an entrance exam into kindergarten have access to a gun?
That's my question.
Let me ask you a question.
I have no problem with doing psychological evaluations on people.
I like that idea too.
That's great.
Oh, so you like that idea?
I don't mind that idea.
That's the whole fucking point of what I was trying to say.
I know you're going to implement it.
That's all I was trying to say.
But it's another.
It's another thing that they're going to implement.
That is necessary.
Listen, there's another thing that they're going to implement that's going to take longer to get the gun, right?
So what?
What are you in a rush to get a gun for?
Because then it makes it harder to get and people will want it more, okay?
What are you in a rush to get a gun for?
Just like the whole thing of waiting 10 days to get a gun, it still didn't stop this kid from getting the gun.
And if he goes in and passes a psychological review, he's going to get the gun.
He's not going to pass a psychological review.
Yes, he would.
No, he's not.
Absolutely.
No, he's not.
If you look at his writings for the past fucking whatever, the guy's fucking clearly out of his mind.
The psychological review is going to be done by an independent board.
You're going to go to the psychological review board where it's going to be another fucking office.
It's going to be paid by you, by our taxes.
And it's not going to be done.
It's not going to be done by a therapist because not everybody has therapists.
No, no.
Look, we are much.
It's not paid by our taxes.
It's paid by you.
You're the one that wants to get a fucking gun.
So then if you don't have a therapist and you go.
You got to get a therapist.
Well, then that kid.
Here, here.
Listen.
Here, there's a board of fucking therapists.
Stop talking.
That kid could go and get another fucking therapist.
He doesn't have to stick with his therapist.
He just says, you know what?
Fine.
It's the implementation.
So then he'll pass because he knows how to.
Listen, they'll be regulated.
They'll be regulated therapists at every count.
Since he was nine, he knows how to outsmart these people because he's psychotic.
Okay.
Listen, let me ask you a question.
So you're saying.
Let me ask you a question.
If we ban guns, would violence go away?
Would gangs go away?
Did I say, did I say, did I say banning guns?
Anybody say.
No, I'm just saying.
People are saying let's ban guns.
No one is talking banning guns here.
People are talking banning guns.
That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm not talking about that.
All I'm saying is.
That's the problem.
We're looking at the wrong issues.
Rich and people like rich are saying we need more guns.
That's what we need.
Right.
And then you got.
We're saying we need checks and balances.
And then you got other people that are saying we need to ban guns.
So that's the problem.
All or nothing.
No one's talking about all or nothing.
We're talking about something needs to be done.
I think.
To regulate.
What I'm saying.
How anybody.
Anybody can just go get a weapon.
I think if we ban guns.
Would become a more violent society.
We're a far less violent society than we were in the middle ages.
I'm not.
I'm not talking about.
I'm saying.
Dude.
If we ban guns.
You better teach your kids how to swing a sword.
Because there's still going to be drug cartels.
There's still going to be organized crime.
There's still going to be gangs.
Look up China right now.
They don't have guns in China.
But you know what?
There's people.
There's news stories all the time of people going into schoolyards.
Slashing 20 kids.
And killing them with knives.
You know why?
Because they can get a fucking knife.
That's what people in the gun debate need to understand.
If you're psychotic.
You're not going to kill people.
This is.
We're talking about violence.
We're talking about.
No.
We're talking about random psychotic fucking people going berserk.
And killing innocent people.
And you're blaming guns.
But.
No.
No.
No.
You're not blaming guns.
You're blaming the fact that guns are so easy to get.
So is a knife.
Rich.
Rich is saying they're not easy to get.
You're saying that our country or our society has become less violent.
I didn't say that they're not easy to get.
Than five years ago.
Five years ago.
Five hundred.
Yes you did.
You said that it's become harder to get.
Same difference.
I didn't say it was hard.
I said it's become harder.
Become harder to get.
But you can still get them.
I never said it's hard to get.
You said.
They just delay the process.
You said that our society has become less violent than the middle ages.
What kind of a fucking asinine comparison is that?
Who gives a fuck?
Because what I'm saying is.
If you banned every single gun from the people.
Who's saying banning?
Why do you keep saying banning?
I'm just giving you an example.
If you took guns away.
Violence would not go away.
Who is talking?
You're arguing and you're presenting.
We're talking about violence.
We're talking about gun control is about violence.
You are fucking talking about something that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
We're talking about random violence.
You're talking about banning guns.
No one is talking about banning guns.
Again, I'm going to reiterate.
I.
People are in this society talking about banning guns.
Again, so then let me step back again.
That is the fucking problem.
People are either all or nothing.
No one's in the middle.
No one's willing to meet in the middle to come to some sort of a resolution.
Everyone's like, no.
All black or all white.
There's no middle.
That's why nothing's going to get done.
There's no middle.
We just keep going and making more restrictions and making more stupid loopholes that people can easily jump through.
That's all it is.
That's all they're doing.
They're going in the direction of making more restrictions or lengthening the time that you can get a gun.
But, you know, aside from.
And you don't believe in that.
I don't care.
You're saying it should be easier.
I don't care one way or another.
No, I don't.
I'm not saying it should be easier.
Don't put that in my mouth.
Why?
You never said that it should be easier.
You seem to be perturbed by the fact that it's been harder and harder and legislation has been brought forth to make it to get a gun.
But let everybody carry them in public.
That's what I'm saying.
Just let them.
Yes.
So basically.
Do you realize that they just recently passed a law that allows people in California to get to make it easier to carry a concealed weapon?
Because if you weren't a bodyguard or a police.
Officer or somebody that is in that type of like if you want a jewelry store, then maybe you could get a concealed weapon if you had to go to the bank every night.
But but but but then it would be you're probably not going to get it now.
They just repealed the law that allows that that makes it a lot easier for people to carry a concealed weapon in this state.
They just did that a couple of months ago.
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
In Los Angeles.
And then we'll move on.
In Los Angeles.
It's very difficult.
In Los Angeles.
You don't need a gun to go mass murdering people.
Do you know what the highest rate of fucking kill killings in L.A.
is?
Vehicles.
McDonald's.
Vehicular hit and runs.
OK, so I you know, you can argue that.
That's great.
Those people are licensing mistakes.
That's great.
Then we can then everybody should be able to have guns because nobody's killing each other with guns.
Just take the call.
We got to move along.
We got to move along.
We do.
Yes, I know we do.
I think.
I think that.
This is a very heated debate.
I've had it a few times with people.
And we'll read.
We got to bring back gun duels.
And we'll revisit.
Just have two people shoot each other.
The last one standing.
Boom.
You win.
Listen, the cops.
Well, we'll revisit it.
We're going to move on.
One more thing.
No, we're going to move on.
The cops get better weapons as the as the bad guys.
We're going to move on.
We'll revisit this prime example.
So we want to give a story as public radio.
We want to honor and give.
Well, first of all.
I.
I want to.
I want to send.
We want to send our condolences to the families and the victims and everybody who was affected by that.
You see Santa Barbara situation.
That's fucked up.
You know, once again.
Once again, the spotlight is up anyway.
So Maya Angelou just passed.
I think it was yesterday.
Right.
Last night.
Yeah.
So I thought we'd spend a little bit of time highlighting who the woman was, what she did, because we all know her as Oprah's friend.
But the fact is that the woman was a very.
Hello.
Oh, my God.
And the reason that this woman had and you're bitching about fucking nothing on TV.
Well, well, well, well, you.
But no, no, I know.
I know.
No.
People are bitching about the Internet's down.
Well, this is what this.
This is why.
This is why I bookended.
I bookended this.
All right.
With with the affirmative action conversation.
And then Maya Angelou.
So Maya Angelou was born.
And Marguerite Johnson in St. Louis and St. Louis, April 4th, 1928, which, by the way, was the same day that Martin Luther King was shot, April 4th.
And I read that for six years she wouldn't celebrate her birthday after Martin Luther King was shot.
Oh, well, anyway, San Francisco, she was San Francisco's first African-American female streetcar conductor.
OK, we'll get back to that.
And she did that without affirmative action, as I mentioned earlier in the show.
OK, she was.
Check this out.
She was a prostitute.
OK, she was a stripper.
She was a singer.
She was an actress.
She was nominated for a Tony Award in 1973 for a play that opened and closed after one night.
That says a lot about her fucking performance.
All right.
The show was closed after the night.
But yet she was fucking she was nominated for a Tony Award.
That's a big deal.
She was a dancer, director, poet, author, mother and wife a few times over.
You know, I lived a block away.
I lived a block away from Maya Angelou.
When I lived in New York, I never had a chance to meet her.
I always was hoping I would be walking my girlfriend's dog down the street.
And I get a chance to see her.
Dude, you're a racist, man.
You're a racist.
Every fucking little old lady that's black, you fucking think it's Maya Angelou.
I know.
Come on.
Yo, Maya.
Yo, Maya.
You met her like five times.
Yeah, you met her.
You changed her hair a lot.
Yeah, I met her five times, man.
I never met her, I said.
But I couldn't recognize her because, you know.
Anyway, let me let me finish this.
Yeah, I met her on Match.com.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Put that picture up.
Jesus.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
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Yes, yes, yes.
Maya Angelou, when she was a young girl, wanted to work as a streetcar conductor.
Right.
But they wouldn't hire her.
They wouldn't even give her a job application.
I'm going to get into that.
Well, one of the things I find fascinating about the story is she wanted the job.
They wouldn't give her the application.
Yes.
So she showed up and sat in the office every day from 9 to 5 for two weeks until they gave her the job.
Right.
So any child in the inner city right now who feels as if he doesn't have what it takes to get ahead, you do.
It's called your ass.
Go fucking move your ass.
No, it's called perseverance.
Hustle your ass and persevere.
It's called get the fuck off of Facebook.
Stop tweeting.
Get some fucking good shoes.
Listen, it was a different time back then.
If you look at how people were tougher, people were just not more tougher.
If you look at how people were tougher, people were just not more tougher.
Look at how people were dressed back then.
Everyone dressed a certain way.
Nowadays, kids look like fucking bums.
You couldn't get a job.
You remember homeboy that used to work in here?
He had fucking ripped jeans.
You remember homeboy?
His fucking shoes had holes on the bottom, but yet he had his medical marijuana card.
And he always had a good supply.
You see what I'm saying?
The priorities.
No, I'm serious.
The priorities are completely ass backwards.
You know what I mean?
Like this.
If no one's giving you a job, you know what you do?
You show up at that place.
And you say, hey, I'm going to work for free for one week.
There you go.
After one week, if you don't like the way I work, I'll bow out.
I'll leave.
You don't have to pay me.
I promise you.
I promise you.
You don't have to pay me.
I promise you you'll have a job after a week if you hustle.
If you move your fucking ass.
Don't just sit around.
You can't even move your ass because your pants are down half the crack of your ass.
The faster you move, they're going to fall down.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
It's perseverance, man.
It's fucking perseverance.
It's vision, desire.
It's desire, faith in yourself.
Focus.
It's desire, faith, and moving forward.
It's focus, not...
Everyone in the hood wants a Bentley.
No one wants to start with a Geo Metro.
Right, right.
No one wants to start with a Geo Metro.
No one wants to start with a skateboard.
No one wants to start with a skateboard.
No one wants to start where they're at.
Yeah.
Episode three.
Live within your means, man.
Live within your means, man.
Live within your means, man.
Big up to all you motherfuckers that pay for your school.
That pay for your children's kids' meals.
That pay for your underwear.
What you're saying, look, look.
You want a job.
What you should do is apply for a gun, right?
This is what you should do.
You go to Walmart.
You wait your two weeks out.
You apply for a Glock.
Get a couple of...
Hours worth of ammunition.
You go into some place and you go out.
You do it the right way.
I'd like to apply for this job, sir.
They say no.
Why?
Well, we're not hiring.
Then you...
What do you mean you're not hiring?
You whip out the Glock.
You put it on his fucking dome plate.
And you fucking tell him, what do you mean you're not hiring?
Get the fuck on your knees right now and start sucking it because now I'm hiring.
I'm hiring now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For all you listeners out there, if you don't feel like...
If no one's giving you an opportunity, get a fucking gun.
Blow people up.
Yeah.
Learn to build home bomb devices.
Subscribe to the podcast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, anyway.
So I'm going to read...
I'm going to read the exact chain of events that how she got that streetcar.
It was actually a beautiful story, right?
Yeah, it was great.
Because she moved to San Francisco with her mom and she liked the U.S.
uniform that the streetcar conductors were wearing.
So she said, I think I'd love that job.
So basically, in 1944, at the age of 16, Maya Angelou walked into Muniz, which is the name of the streetcars there in San Francisco, personnel department, to ask for an application to become a streetcar conductor.
She had moved to San Francisco from St. Louis with her mother, Vivian Baxter, and dropped out of high school two years ago.
Two years earlier.
She had always admired the tailored uniforms the female streetcar conductors wore.
Outfitted with change dispensers on the front, and she thought to herself, that's a job I want.
But San Francisco's municipal railway had hired only a few black people by that point.
And they refused...
But no woman.
No woman.
Well, no, they had white women.
No black women.
Oh, forget it.
Yeah.
Forget it.
If you...
Yeah.
But San Francisco municipal railway had hired only a few black people by that point.
And they refused to even give Angelou a job application.
Hold on a second.
It says some reports...
Never mind.
That right there.
Okay.
She went home to her mother and told her what had happened.
And as she recounted to Oprah last year, it was her mother's advice that helped her get her job after at first being denied.
So my mother asked this.
This is Maya Angelou.
My mother asked me why, you know, she didn't get a job.
She didn't get the job.
And she says, do you know why?
I said, yes, because I'm a Negro.
She said, yes, but do you want the job?
And I said, yes.
And she said, go get it.
Here, I'll give you money every day.
You go down and be there before the secretaries get there.
You sit there in the office.
You read one of your big, thick Russian books.
I was reading Dostoevsky or Toys L'Oreal, whatever the fuck, something at the time.
And when they go to lunch, you go.
Dostoevsky.
Dostoevsky.
Dostoevsky.
Dostoevsky, but the other one is Tolstoy.
Tolstoy.
Leo Tolstoy.
There you go.
Go to a good, and when they go to lunch, you go.
Go to a good restaurant.
You know how to order good food.
Then go back before the secretaries.
Get back from lunch and sit there until they leave.
I did all that.
They laughed at me.
They pushed out their lips.
Used some negative racial slurs.
But here's the thing.
I sat there because I was afraid to go home.
I was afraid to tell my mother that I wasn't as strong as she thought I was.
So I sat there for two weeks, every day, and then after two weeks, a man came out of his office and he said, come here.
And he asked me why I wanted the job.
And I said, I like the uniforms.
And I said, I like people.
And so I got the job.
One thing that's interesting, you know, her mother owned, I think, a general store or something.
So they came from not really fucked up backgrounds.
A hundred percent.
And she ran card games.
So her mother had money, obviously, to give her money.
Well, she understood the concept of competing.
Competing for what you want in life.
Not just sitting back and hoping, but actually getting out there and saying, you know, I want this and I'm going to fucking work for it.
I'm going to compete.
I mean, you know.
Right.
Yeah.
It works.
But it was fostered from her mother, though, too.
Her mother gave her the tools and said, you want it?
I'll help you.
I'll do it.
You know, I mean.
Well, here's the argument that could be said now.
How many people's mothers are that supportive?
Because they're never around.
Because both parents are working.
Or they may not have the money.
A parent can only teach you what they know.
Right.
But to bring the whole thing around with affirmative action, it's like there's pros and cons to everything.
But you can't say that every person who comes from an underprivileged background or from a welfare neighborhood or from below the top 40 fucking percent of earners do not have a chance.
Because this.
This woman right here.
She blasted all those fucking stereotypes she made.
She became that and then some.
You know what I mean?
So a big up to you, Maya.
Rest in peace.
God bless you wherever you are.
We give.
We give you big love.
We give you a big.
Big up.
Big up.
She's awesome.
It's sad.
You know, there's really only a couple people in a generation that are like that.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
And they're usually a black.
Just so you know.
Black.
Like five blacks and maybe one Latino.
And that one was already taken by Sonia Sotomayor.
So this.
All you spics out there.
Give it up.
It ain't going to happen.
So we're going to leave on this fucking.
This.
This short, stupid story.
So this is a true story.
Right.
A Nigerian man who was arrested for having sex with a goat insisted that he asked the animal for permission.
First, village elders handled handed Malam Kamisu Baranda, who's 20 years old, to police after he was caught being intimate with the animal.
He told officers that the remnant.
Remnant.
Had consented.
And that since he'd had sex with her on at least 10 occasions without incident, he assumed he was doing nothing wrong.
It was consensual goat sex.
A court sentenced him to two weeks in jail.
He's actually going to be getting a show on Skinroll Studios.
He'll be on Dark Mark.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
You're fucking the goat.
You're fucking the goat.
I'm telling you.
That was supposed to be our food.
You are no fucking good.
I told you.
That was supposed to be our food.
You got to go to the police.
What do you whisper in a goat's ear before coitus?
And then.
Bah.
Bah.
Bah.
If that was in the United States.
Bah.
If that was in the United States, that guy would get like three months, three months work, you know, community service on a goat farm.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Anyway, that wraps up our show.
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It's me.
It's me.
It's me.
It's me.
I ain't doing nothing but talking shit.
Y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way long.
Ow.
I ain't doing nothing but talking shit.
Y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way long.
Ow.