Peter Grossman on finance, Riot Games, plus Bloomberg and minimum wage debate

Get it off, let it off. Get it off, let it off. Get it off, let it off. Get it off, let it off. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. I ain't doing nothing but talking shit. Y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way along. Ow. I ain't doing nothing but talking shit. Y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way along. Make me say, ow. What's poppin', New York? What's poppin', Los Angeles? What the fuck's poppin', San Francisco? Indonesia, holla at your boy. That's right, and you motherfuckers in China, drop the chopsticks. Holla at your boy. Hey, yo. Thanks for tuning in to Nestorius Public Radio. I am your host, Nestor Rodriguez, a.k.a. Nestorius. Yo, the crazy Puerto Rican on the streets reportin'. What's goin' on? My name's Simon Kaufman. We're here for another hour of hilarity, and I just wanna send a shout-out, you know, to all you men out there mad because your girlfriend's sending me naked pictures on a text message. Doesn't mean I want them. Don't be mad at me. Chabumba, God! Take care of your woman! So she don't have to send... Simon Kaufman naked pictures! You think I need this? Leave me alone. I'm trying to do my radio show and get my life in order. He's trying to hold on to his ball sack. I don't need all this stupid shit. I don't need to see your girlfriend, and I don't need you following up and getting mad at me. Yeah, and you're distracting him. He's trying to hold on to his butts. We're trying to do Nestorius Public Radio. Yeah. Read up about it. Yeah, and to my motherfuckin' left is my main man, Rich Corbin. What's up, everybody? Yeah. How you doin'? That's right, how you doin'? Bring down the level. Yo, what's up, everybody? How you doin'? How you doin'? And we got a special guest tonight, live from motherfuckin' New York, from Santa Monica via New York, I should say, is my main man, Peter Grossman. Yo, how you doin'? Yo, how you doin', baby? Hey, yo! Hey, you know what? Right off the bat, we were just having something to eat a little while before the show, as we normally do, as the fat fucks that we are here in Los Angeles. Well, not Rich, because he's cleansing. Yeah, Rich is cleansing. He's juicing. I'm on that. I'm on the juice diet. Liquid diet. But I was talking, I said, I asked Simon, did I ever say anything to you about Peter's father? I think I told Richard, your father is a pretty successful and well-known composer. Yes, he is. That's what I wanted to say. And your father, didn't he compose a couple of Michael Jackson's fuckin' number one hits? He did. He, Michael Jackson recorded a song called Gone Too Soon, which was on the Dangerous album. Right. And it was actually dedicated to Ryan White, who he, and unfortunately- Who's Ryan White? He was the boy he befriended who had AIDS back in the late 80s, early 90s. And Michael befriended? Michael befriended. And then they were about to release it as a single. And next thing you know, all the allegations came out against Michael Jackson. They were going to have to kind of put that on the back burner. So what was the name of the song again? It's called Gone Too Soon. And it's since been recorded by- A couple people recorded it. Actually, at Michael Jackson's memorial, Babyface sang it at the memorial. Oh, okay, okay, okay. And now your father composed this song. He wrote it. He wrote it. For Michael. He didn't write it for Michael. He wrote it. But he wrote it and- And MJ Productions wanted to take it. A guy who my dad collaborated with for many years, a gentleman by the name of Buzz Cohan, actually- Not Cohen. Cohan. Cohen, who was the father of Jenji Cohan, who did Weeds. Got it. And that's her dad. Got it. Anyway, he and my dad worked together for many, many years. And he knew Michael since he was a little kid. And they were getting ready to go start producing Dangerous. And he sent him the track and he loved it and wanted to record it. And so made it on the album. So it was pretty cool. Nice, nice, nice, nice. And what else did your father do? I know you- I went to your father's house. My man had fucking platinum records up the ass. Your father had more platinum records than my fucking family had platters to eat out of. On the fucking wall. He's got a few. He's got a couple of Emmys. Emmys and shit. So he's done music for television as well. Music for television. A little bit of film. Also, his real passion is Broadway. He loves the theater. Nice. But he's also done a lot of- Who's recorded- Stevie Wonder has recorded some of his stuff. Uh-huh. Who else? That girl's got a dummy. The teeth are really high. Fam, fam. But actually- At Christmas, one of the things that gets played a lot is- You ever see the duet of David Bowie and Bing Crosby? Absolutely. So the melody that David Bowie sings called Peace on Earth, he wrote with Buzz Cohen. It was for a Bing Crosby special back in- Your father. Yeah, in 1978. Damn. Yeah, so- Tell me your father's name again. Larry. Larry! What's up, Larry, motherfucker? Big up. Big up, Larry Grossman. You musical motherfucker. Big up. Your father's back in New York, right? No, he lives here in L.A. Oh, he does? Yeah, he's right here in L.A. He is in L.A. He moved out here almost two years ago. You know what? I asked you that shit, but he lived up in New York. He lives in New York, yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's originally- He grew up in Chicago. Got it. Moved to New York after college. Got it. You look like your father a little bit. I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Larry, he's all right. Larry and I kicked it. Yeah. Larry and I were kicking it at Kent's wedding. Absolutely. Kent, you fucking- You're listening, man. Pick up the fucking phone and call 1-800-893-9562. That's our number. If you're listening live, I always kind of say call us, but I know a lot of our listeners are not listening to us live, which is fine. Nestorius Public Radio loves you no matter what. 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We're going to be discussing voter rights, minimum wage, job interviews, and we're going to be discussing headhunting. Peter Grossman. Headhunting. He's a headhunter. Not what you think, but very close. Anyway, we're back. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, because we do it like that. That's what you have to. You know what I'm saying? It's not for us. It's for America. It's for the people. Right? You know what I'm saying? They need to hear this. Yeah, it's for the fucking people. People need to hear some shit. Yeah. Hey, before we continue, can we get the heat turned up in the studio a little bit? Yeah. I feel like there's a part of my shirt that isn't sweat through. I'd like to get to that now, if possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't tell me it was a sweat lodge down here. I mean, it's a... Yeah. Big the fuck up to the radiation company. Money is mine. 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Okay, so a couple of weeks ago, 4th of July, we didn't have a live show, but a couple of weeks ago, we had my man Leslie Small here in the studio, director Leslie Small, director of Kevin Hart's Let Me Explain. And we're talking about the DOMA act. It's a law that's being repealed and gay marriage being allowed back in California and all this other shit. And we gently touched on the fact that while that was going on, the Supreme Court struck down a core component of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Okay. Now, for those of you that don't know what that is, let me explain. Back in 1965. Certain people. We're not allowed to vote. We're not allowed to vote. And the only thing is that certain people were not allowed to vote. Or I should say they weren't allowed to vote. They had the legal right to vote, but they were being written off. Right, right, right. They were cocked. They made it very difficult. Right, right, right. Thank you. Thank you. They were getting poll blocked. The end result was they weren't allowed to vote. By that I mean there were guards saying what the fuck you doing here? What are you doing? Where are you going? It's Sunday. Sorry the polls are closed. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And basically the southern states basically changed their policies. And they changed their policies. polling rules as they felt, you know, as they deemed necessary. So, and usually that involved whenever there was a black rapper that came in back in 1965 and they said, sorry, boy, sorry, boy, we're closed right now. Come back at three. And then they come at three and blah, blah, blah. Anyway, so basically this act basically prevented local governments from changing the polling laws in their cities or states without first consulting the federal government. In other words, if a local municipality wanted to change a specific, you know, whatever, we're not going to do this. We're not going to open the polls on Sunday for church, for early voters. They would have to, you know, write to the federal government. The federal government have to review it and they would have to say, uh, no or yes. Anyway, so this part of the Voters Act was... Was repealed. It was taken away. So, um, Congress can no longer require nine mostly Southern states to get federal approval before changing their voting procedures. Okay. Under the act, a keystone of civil rights era legislation, jurisdictions with a history of racial discrimination had been required to have any change in their election law or practices pre-cleared by the federal government. Anyway, you know, the, the, the, the fucked up thing about it is that, that they basically said, um, uh, um. That, that times are different. Basically. That's the reason that Pat, that's the reason it was repealed. Cause you know, we're not living under the same racist conditions. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. Everyone's so happy now. We have, uh, what did they have? All these different flavors of Starburst. Yeah. And Pixie Dust straws. Remember? Yeah. They have, uh, uh, uh, vibrating dildos. Yeah. For you to jack off with. Yeah. They have, uh, Cheetos now. Yeah. They have all different flavors. Yeah. They have all different flavors. They have all different flavors. They have all different flavors of Cheetos. Who needs to worry about everyone's so happy now in this country. That'll help. Right. Everyone's so, everyone gets along so well. There's no racism. The LAPD isn't racist. Right. Well, what it is, is, is, is they use, they use the, well, slavery's not around. We've moved, you know, we, we, we've progressed as, as, as, as a society, as a culture. Uh, uh, taking the fact that in Southern states, there still are problems with polling laws. Uh. Uh, just, just in this past election, um, another, another component of voting in the South is, uh, the, the Sunday, the Sunday, uh, uh, early, early voting that they do in the South. And traditionally it was to allow, uh, black church going families to go and vote near their church because a lot of them didn't have transportation and they pretty much had to work 24 fucking seven. Unlike some motherfuckers. You know what? I mean, that have cars to take them to the poll or they can, you know, change the whole, but anyway, so, so. Well, that, that's really interesting that you say that. And I brought this up on a, on a show and I don't think I elaborated it before, but when, uh, LA County was voting to get rid of, get rid of the, uh, the, uh, the, no, the rental. Yeah. No, the, the, the rental, um, uh. Rent control. Rent control thing. They attached two things on the bill saying that, okay, listen, if we get rid of rent control, then there's, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, your city can't come in and bulldoze your house to put a freeway in there. Okay. Can't. Can't. But if you do vote to get rid of rent control or if you do vote. If you allow to rent control. If you allow rent control to exist, then, uh, the city does have the ability to bulldoze your house and, and come in and put a freeway in there. So that's how they put it on the ballot. So I went to go vote because I lived in an apartment at the time. Right. And you don't want your apartment to get bulldozed. No, I don't want. Like you fucking own it. I don't want. Like it fucking matters. I don't want. The rent is controlled. I don't want my rent control to go down because fuck, I was paying nothing. I was paying nothing for this place. Right. So I go to this place. So you have the rent control, but we've bulldozed the whole building. No, no, no. So, so you vote so that they can't take down the rent control. Right. So I go to vote and, and, uh, and, and I go there and it's at a Goodwill on the corner of Laurel Canyon and, uh, Moorpark. Moorpark, yeah. Right there. Okay. Next to the fucking professional martial arts bar, uh, boxing joint. That's where I work out, by the way. They never take those fucking punching bags down. They never. This is a. This is another corner of fucking Laurel Canyon and Moorpark and, and, and there's punching bags, kick bags. They're all outside. So I joke around and tell them, yo, I work out here every day at two in the morning because it's, it's, it's free. It's free. It's my gym. It's free. It's free. Kickboxing. So I go there to vote. Right. And then I get there and they said, Hey, um, sorry, but, uh, they've changed the polling place. Okay. I said, okay, where's where? And they go, the address is on the card. You did the window. Hold on a second. You didn't tell them at that point that you weren't black? They were surprised. They were surprised. I mean, at that point I would have said, guys, guys. It's more classism in this sense because the reason why they did this last minute because they sent all this stuff out and they put it on the card is, uh, they put the wrong address. They put the address as Moorpark and I put it in the GPS and I ended up in the middle of the park on the other side of Laurel Canyon. Right, right, right, right. And I'm like, you know what? I bet these motherfuckers fucked up and they met Riverside. So I went up to Riverside and of course it was on Riverside. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. And I'm thinking to myself, what the fuck? So I go in and I go, they changed this last minute. I'm talking to a guy at the polling place. I go, why did they do this? Is this because people in apartments have more mobility issues? People in apartments have less cars. People in houses, they have more money. They can get around and all of that. Is that kind of a way that they were trying to level the playing field? And the guy looked at me stone-faced and was like, yeah, yeah, they do this shit all the time. This is the guy working at the polling place. He's a volunteer because no one works there. He's a volunteer. He's voluntarily working. Yeah, but that's just an opinion. That's just an opinion. It's an opinion, but it's an opinion for a guy. All those guys, by the way, are volunteering. No one gets paid for that. Well, then. So then they're really stupid. But the point is. But the point is that this guy tells me that they do this type of chicanery all the time. They fucking do this. Chicanery. Pull that one out of my ass. No. Ha, ha, ha. They're chicanery. Chicanery. They do this all the time because they didn't want as many. Because there are a lot. There are a lot more people in Los Angeles living in apartments, living in rent-controlled apartments than there are in the houses. And the person who was behind this bill anyway just happened to be the guy who owns the most apartment buildings in Los Angeles. Right, right, right. So this thing is important, but they're still going to do their shit. That's a good kind of example. Because, you see, to do that type of shit was to change polling places or misinform the people. And that's a good example of the time of the polling places or where the polling locations were. This just gives them ample latitude in their ability to do these types of things. And let's face it, man. You're in the South. You're African-American. You're working fucking class. The last thing you do is have time for bullshit or to fight or whatever. I mean, you know, it's messed up. Listen, it's pretty hard to get around in my little scooter thing from going to Moore Park to Riverside. That's hard, especially, you know. Anyway, you know what? Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you, Supreme Court, for allowing this shit to happen. Fuck you, fucking Southern voting places, you cocksuckers. I hope your voting polls fucking locations blow up before any black person wants to fucking show up. All right? You heard that right from me. The views expressed here are not those views of any of my guests. The views of NPR are at the sole discretion of the host and do not reflect the station or station management. Fuck you. That's absolutely right. Big up to legalities. That's absolutely right. People got to be informed about this shit. Anyway, look, we got to move on. We got a fucking crazy show. We got a crazy show. How crazy is it? Yo, it used to be your vote didn't count. Now no one's even there counting your vote. How crazy is it? Yo, how crazy is it? It's fucking crazy. All right, so most of us are from New York, Peter. You're a native New Yorker. Native New Yorker, born and bred, baby. You and I met each other in New York in 1990. Fucking great year. Absolutely. We just missed the fucking, the Medellin fucking drug cartel. You know what I mean? We fucking slid under the door like, hi, we're alive. You know what I'm saying? What'd you miss? And 1990. And New York, you know, was in a transitional period in 1990. Absolutely. You know, because the 80s, the 80s were fucking crack the fuck out. Oh, yeah. Okay. History. And historically, you may have heard me say in the 70s, New York was like in a complete deficit. Like, the sanitation wasn't picking up the garbage. It was hell. Okay? Mayor Koch took, he was the only crazy motherfucker to say, I'll be the mayor. He was mayor for two years. He took no shit. He was the mayor for 12 years. 12 years. Excuse me, excuse me. Three terms. I meant two terms. Three terms. Three terms. Three terms. He put on a music video. No, three terms. He didn't give a shit. He's one of the most liked, most controversial. He's one of the most controversial and most hated mayors of all time. Okay? Rightfully so. But most of these guys, once they're in for the third term, they become, they go from most liked to most hated. Absolutely. Mayor Koch is a closet homosexual that did nothing, okay, nothing to fucking support gay rights or the other thing that was going on in the 80s were the AIDS, the AIDS epidemic. He did nothing. So that's how controversial the fucking guy was. He was like, fuck the, fuck the fags. I mean, that's how he was. He was straight up like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He used to fuck the fags. Well, I don't know what he used to do. He was a closet. No one. Anyway, we're not talking about Koch. We're talking about the history of New York City from the 70s to the 80s. So we got out of the fucking, like, like the dregs of shit in the 70s. Thanks to Mayor Ed Koch and fucking David Dinkins tried to fucking, you know, jerk everything off in the early 80s. Right. In the early 90s. In the early 90s. From 88 to 92. Excuse me. Cause right. In the early 90s. So, so the 80s were cracked. There you go. We have. The, the, the, the 80s. The 80s were cracked out. No, I'm thinking, I'm thinking the early 80s. There's timelines all over the place. I'm not thinking the early 80s. Yo, in Jupiter. No, no. In Jupiter. You're not going to believe what happened. Yo. No, the 80s. No, the early 80s. That was Koch's term. I'm thinking. So Koch ended like in fucking late 80s. Late 80s. Late 80s. Got it. So, and, and, and, so of course there was hope. Black mayor, blah, blah, blah. He was flaccid. He was fucking useless. Mayor, Mayor Dinkins. And the economy tanked again in New York. Right. In the early 90s. Right. After the stock market crash. And we were talking about this earlier. The stock market crash because of the phony fucking stimulus of the economy. Because Reagan fucking, you know, the whole. And junk bonds imploding. And credit and all that other bullshit. Which we'll get into some of that stuff in a bit. But, so fast forward, you know, Rudy Giuliani takes over in the mid 90s. He's an ex fucking. Oh, he's a U.S. attorney. U.S. attorney who, who, who stood head on against the mafia. He was one of the only dudes in the, that said, fuck you. We don't care. So at the beginning you thought, man, Giuliani. Wow. This guy's the real deal. Right. He ain't taking shit from nobody. And in plain sight on TV, he was like, we're not afraid of the mob. We're not afraid of, of, of organized crime. And we're going to get down to the bottom of it. Great hero. Right. Whoever did that before. Then 9-11 comes. I mean, he does a lot of things here and there to keep New York safer. And little by little, New York starts to change. You know, come 2000. The early, the early years of 2000, 2001, 9-11 happens. All of a sudden panic starts, you know, in the nation and New York. Bloomberg takes over. Now Bloomberg is the richest mother, one of the richest motherfuckers in this country. Okay. He owns a lot of media veins. So, so he can manipulate fucking news as, as he pleases. Financial and otherwise. He's the only mayor, I think, that has not taken a salary. Cause he doesn't have to. He's a fucking. Well, he does have a TV channel, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a, he's a filthy fucking rich fuck. He's got a calendar. He's got a, he's got a desk calendar. He's got, he's got stickers. He's got fucking QR codes. He's got an iPhone 5. Yo, he's on iTunes. He's not noteworthy. Okay. Net worth of 27 billion dollars. Billion. God. Is there a we in billion? No. No. It's just I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I. We, we, we need to get a lot of these billionaires out of office. Because fuck, who gives a shit if they don't fucking take a fucking. Well, here's the deal. Well, here's the deal. Because there. But, but, here's the thing though. When you're a CEO of a company. See, companies are not democracies. When you're CEO, it's like my way or the highway. This is what I'm doing. And like you're, you're either with me or you're not. And that. But as an elected, elected officials, that's not how government works. Right. But that's how he's been running New York. That's how he's been running New York. And, and, and so here's the, here's the flip side of that, Rich. The, the thing is people tend to trust people with money. Right. Right. Right. You think. New York. No, I'm saying New York. Like, like. No, I agree that they can manage money. Manage money. They know how to handle all this stuff and all that. Right, right, right. But the problem is, is that they tend to just manage the money. They don't manage the people. No, no, no, no. And then you get 50,000 people out of it. No, they tend to manage things for people who have money. Right. Exactly. That's what it tends to happen. They manage the money, which is. So, so for those of you that don't know, you know, this is again, my opinion. I personally loved New York City. When you can walk up Times Square. And see three crack whore fucking herpes, herpes lit hookers ask you to suck your cock for $5. You see, because I felt like an American. I felt like I had a choice. Everyone could afford it. Right. But I felt like I could do it or not do it. It was a choice. I walk up fucking Times Square. Now, I don't have a choice. 200 bucks just for a dinner date. No, I don't have a choice. I get bombarded, ass fucked, visually fucked by Disneyland. It is. It's Disneyland. It's fucking Disneyland. It's like. I want Times Square to be Times Square. I want New York to be New York. The New York I fucking knew. That's when I knew. And that was in the early 90s when Times Square started the fucking development project. And, and, and look, look, I'm not hating on fixing things up, making them safer. You know, I'm an electrician by trade. Don't let Disney do it. How many fucking M&M's do you need? You fat, greasy shit. Whoa. Steen fuck face. Whoa. Your whole family. Looks like a yellow peanut M&M. You're walking in the fucking place. Three levels of M&M's, you cock suckers. Yeah. Well, you know, it's, it's like, it's like this. Look, it's not all black and white. If you look at Grand Central. They got pink M&M's now. If you look at Grand Central Station, right? Grand Central Station stood to be torn down in the 70s. It did. Jackie O. First of all, Grand Central Station was crack, heroin. It was fucking, it was like a, you wouldn't want to walk through there. No. All right. Between Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt and fucking Lexington and third Avenue in that area, which is, which is crazy. You know what I mean? So thanks to Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, she fought for, uh, uh, uh, to keep, to keep, uh, the Grand Central Station preserved. They formed this thing called the Grand Central Partnership in which the businesses along that area chipped in. And what they did was they hired transient guys from jail and homeless people and they gave them jobs. Brilliant. You know what I mean? Yeah. Clean up the neighborhood. Clean up the neighborhood, give people jobs. And, and they fucking, they spanked up Grand Central Station. And they bought legitimate businesses in their restaurant stores. Legitimate businesses, restaurants to oyster. I mean, it's amazing. You, you wouldn't want to eat nothing in there in the 70s. No. Fucking rats and roaches. I mean, seriously, if you were a kid and you walked through the shuttle to go from Grand Central to Times Square and back and you walked through Grand Central Station, you'd be like, this is nasty. You know what I mean? So she, she, she, she got it together. I actually had the privilege of working. On lighting the facade of Grand Central Station from across the Lincoln building, across, across the street from the Lincoln building. Yeah. 60 East 42nd Street. 60 East 42nd Street where Dayton had a fucking office. Yeah. Our friend Dayton. You know? Big up Dayton. You're dating yourself. No, no. So, so. So basically, basically, um, um, uh, they fixed it. So it's not black and white. So Times Square, it's, the thing is that it's black and white. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's atrocious, man. So then the next thing this fucking guy does, look, New York is a pedestrian society. People walk, they walk wherever they feel like walking. The first thing he starts doing is he starts blocking intersections from pedestrian access. You can't cross the street here. You have to cross the street over there. Right. And then he starts changing fucking, uh, direction of traffic. Like you could only go up fucking the West side through this street and then come back. Basically. Look, I'll cut to the chase. He's created a cluster fuck, not only for fucking pedestrians, but for traffic. The last thing he did, and I'm going to get into the health concerns that he fucking implemented. The last thing he did was he creates these bike lanes. So now cars that used to be parked on opposite ends of the streets, they have to be parked where there was another lane. So there's a bike lane next to the sidewalk now, and there's like a little Island. And then. The parking now takes up a lane where people. Where, where cars used to drive. So now you're taking fucking passageways for fucking cars to, to, to, to, to drive through on the streets. What does that happen? What does that mean? That means that a cab ride that would have taken me 10 fucking minutes now takes me 35 fucking minutes. It cost you $20. It cost me $20. So you know what? Fuck you. I'm going to walk. Okay. Fuck you Bloomberg. I'm walking. I'm not taking a cab. You cocksucker. The bike lanes are ridiculous. I thought when they first put them in. They wanted the bicyclist to ride down them so we could run them over. I didn't get it. That's what I thought. It's so stupid. That's what I thought. Cause. Cause. Messing. Row, row, row your bike fucking somewhere else. Anyway. Anyway. So, so he's basically in essence fucked up New York. He's created it to be a playground for the rich basically, because unless you're like me and have a three bedroom rent controlled apartment on East a hundred street in fucking Spanish Harlem, you're shit out of luck. I'm just letting you know. You know what I'm saying? I'm just letting you know. I'm just letting you know. I'm just letting you know that uncle Ness, he's got that shit down. Okay. I got that shit down. So what is the next thing he does? He starts regulating the size of Coca-Cola or soft drinks that you can have because you're a fat fuck and you can't fucking regulate how much calories you take. So all the rest of us now have to pay, right? If I want a fucking super sized Coke, I can't have one. If I want a big gulp, I can't have one. If I want a fucking big gulp, I can't have one. Big gulp. It's seven time. It's 7-Eleven. Big gulp. Yeah. Maybe you're going to go on a journey and you need a lot of that for, you know, you don't want to suck it down right away. Yeah. Maybe you're going to go on a journey to the, to the adult movie theater and you need a big gulp. Maybe you're going to take a little bit of time. Because you might take a big gulp later. But here's the question that really comes down with this whole thing. What's the question? What is the role of government in, in interfering when it comes to something like, like sodas that are disgusting? Bad for people. You got nine year olds with type two diabetes. You think, you think that's the government's responsibility? No, that's the question. I think the government's responsibility is to regulate the fucking banking industry. Okay. I think it's the government's responsibility to fucking make sure that the people who are getting paid by our tax dollars to protect us and to protect our rights. I think it's the government's responsibility to do that shit. Don't fucking. Don't go in here trying to micromanage how much soda you drink, what food you eat and all this other bullshit. You want to regulate something? Regulate genetically modified fucking foods. Go to the source. Go to Monsanto. Regulate those motherfuckers. They're cherry picking. They're cherry picking. Whatever is not going to hurt, uh, you know, the people who are fucking in their pocket at that point. The rich motherfuckers. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Who can we allow the public to see that we're doing something for them? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We really need to go after. We were discussing this in the other show. Okay. There's a conspiracy amongst chocolate companies, Mars and shit like that in Canada. So of course they make a big deal. They're trying to fix fucking chocolate prices in Canada. Who gives a fuck? There are more important things to deal with. Again, you want to regulate food? Regulate Monsanto. regulate soybean fucking bullshit regulate the fact that you genetically modify all sorts of shit you don't even know what the fuck you're eating you don't know this 4th of July I'm making hot dogs okay and out of the blue I decide let me see who makes these my wife and I have this discussion we don't even know where our food comes from I have ballpark friends Franks what's more fucking American than hot dogs well apple pie and baseball and racism and racism but we're talking about traditional right traditional wink wink wink wink wink wink so athlete named ballpark Franks guess where the buns are made Canada Mexico Mexico Mexico you want them made in Mexico or do you want them made here by a Mexican guy what's the difference here's the difference and that's an interesting question I'd like them being done I want them made by somebody who I want them made here yeah by a Mexican okay because a Mexican's gonna work he's gonna make money from that money he's gonna pay taxes that tax goes into our economy that tax goes into the economy the economy goes better they can hire more fucking Mexicans to make more fucking buns okay that's the problem so you do want a Mexican making your bun it's just a geographical question where do I want my Mexican no no no you asked the question would you want a Mexican right I said I'd rather have a Mexican making the buns here in the United States than our fucking money our production our services being produced outside of the United States but it costs too much to pay a Mexican in this country to make bread in this country as hostess will say will attest will attest to because it's cheaper to pay a Mexican in Mexico than it is to a guy that's already here well we're gonna get into all this stuff because this conversation is gonna go right into what we were talking about go ahead if a Mexican's not available what's your second choice a handicapped guy because a white fucking person ain't gonna take a job like that a typical white American guy is not gonna take that job white people don't even make white bread anymore that's right what's going on with this country but I'm saying a typical white American I grew up on the east coast I'm a union electrician okay when I grew up as an electrician as a union guy most of those fucking white guys from Long Island their thing is like ah fuck I'm not gonna take that job I'm not gonna take that job I'm not gonna take that job they're so gung ho anti anybody that's not white to do anything but meanwhile if there was no construction work I guarantee you not one of those guys would go out and cultivate some fucking spinach if they had to okay or babysit some kids or clean some fucking rooms in a motel okay so let's face it that's another conversation altogether if I want my buns baked in Mexico by a Mexican or my buns baked in America by a Mexican guess what I'll take well you know you always go you go to Mexico and they say oh be careful don't eat the food don't drink the water and then you sit in a restaurant here and who brings you the water and the food right white guys no Mexicans yeah right I don't know what fucking restaurant Mexican brings you the water the water and the food yeah oh right the white guy takes the order and keeps the tip I'm saying you go to Mexico they say don't drink the water don't eat the food you sit down in a restaurant who comes up with the water and the food and where was your food cultivated and made and processed as we just found alright so here's the deal here's the deal so there's a you know the minimum wage is looking to be raised again and I believe the minimum wage hasn't been changed from $7.25 yet or is it still $7.25 I think it's $8 now the federal minimum wage because of course any state can charge can pay no the federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour right okay that's what I thought so okay so President Obama has suggested raising the minimum wage to $9 earlier this year and he was accused of being a danger he was accused of being a dangerous retributionist which means what what's a retributionist look it up you have a computer right no no no I think he I think he said redistribution redistribution redistributionist hey can we edit that Nick okay hold on hold on make it clean redistributionist redistributionist right right right right right right he was a dangerous redistributionist and what's and what's and what's wrong with that he was a dangerous redistributionist ladies and gentlemen please be on the lookout for a dangerous redistributionist yeah well that was yeah but that's at a time when this country used to be kind of a closed circuit where things were made in this country things were bought in this country but now the money ladies and gentlemen be on the lookout for a crazy wild redistributionist he could be armed and dangerous he might be trying to give everybody your money he's basically taking money away from other people and fucking distributing it that's what they're letting all these companies do though that's what they're letting all the big companies do well it's okay if companies do it oh I forgot yeah yeah yeah companies can do that a redistributionist is one who believes in or advocates a welfare state right anyone who can say redistributionist three times might be a redistributionist redistributionist redistributionist redistributionist I guess I'm a redistributionist redistributionist redistributionist someone who retributions this. Okay, but I'm not arguing for a higher minimum wage out of some sense of morality or social justice. I make the case as a businessman. This is the guy who's writing this article. Nick Hanauer from Bloomberg.com. Bloomberg.com, right? Bloomberg. So he says, this is an interesting thing, though. He goes, so I'm not arguing for a higher minimum wage out of some sense of morality or social justice. I make the case as a businessman and entrepreneur who sees our millions of low-paid workers as customers to be cultivated and not as costs to be cut. Significantly raising the minimum wage would boost our economy by $450 billion each year, giving more purchasing power to millions, and with it more profits to business businesses. For the small government set of those who view my meddling with wages as needless government interference, consider this additional benefit. Putting more cash in workers' pockets would substantially reduce government intervention and dependency on public assistance programs. I don't necessarily agree with that, but... This is what would happen. You raise minimum wage, they're just going to raise the price of their fucking iPods. They're going to raise the price of milk. They're going to raise the price of chicken because they're going to have to... because it's costing them to pay the people more money. That's essentially what it does. When you talk about raising minimum wage, right, and for it to affect everybody else, all of us, the way you're describing it, we're then just talking about manufacturing, okay? Because when it comes to service or goods, service and goods, they primarily depend on fuel, transportation. When you talk about goods, when you talk about foods, when you talk about items that are sold, electronics, whatever the fuck, to get from point A to point B requires trucks. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that when you make it harder for the... When the company has... is going to make less money because they're paying their employees more, but see, I guess, I don't know, they're not really paying their employees in this country, they're paying them somewhere else. But how does this help the economy? You're asking a company to pay more out now in the hopes that they'll have more money and they'll come and buy back later. It really doesn't make a ton of sense. I'd like to hear what Peter has to say about it. The man... Redistributionist, cutmaster, flexmaster. Well, well, well, well, first of all, first of all, we talked about Peter briefly. We introduced him as a headhunter, but Peter, you worked in the financial sector for a while. Yes, for a long time. Over 10 years. Over 10 years, yes. Over 10 years. Over 15 years. Over 15 years. You were... I worked on the trading floor of the New York Stock Exchange for several different firms, executing... Picking up the phone, I'll take it. Executing poor people. How many stocks on Apple? Okay, $500 share. Did you have fistfuls of paper and all that? Like in trading places? That's just mad. That's crazy. That's the way it was done. That's an extreme. The commodities markets, their style of trading is a little bit different, but if there was news out on a stock and it was going crazy, you'd have 20, 30 guys in there yelling and screaming and punching each other. I've seen guys get black eyes and broken noses. Oh, so that's why I was selling a lot of crack to some of those white guys so they could forget their pain? Yeah, exactly. That's a very high-stress job, huh? Definitely. Oh, hell yeah. It was fun. It was a cool place to work. A lot of interesting characters who worked down there. You surprised anybody. You give me a stock tip, I sell you some Yale, and we all live happily ever after, okay? Yo, you got the tip, I got the Yale. But first you got to show me the tip before I give you the drugs. What's your take on this raising the minimum wage? If you do the math, $7.25 an hour, $40 an hour a week, that's $290 a week. Long story short, you're making a little over $15,000 a year. I don't know anybody, who can live on $15,000 a year unless you live in North Dakota or something like that. Now go back to the mathematical equation. $7.25 times $40 hours a week is $290 a week. That's before taxes. That's before taxes. You know how much of that money the government takes? That's before taxes. You know how much money that person takes a week? $100. $150, maybe. No. They skim off about 20%. What? They skim off about 20%. At the most. It depends on your... No, if you have no dependents. If you have no dependents. They'll take over 40%. They'll take over 40%. No, they're not going to take that much because the gross isn't... Isn't at that high... I got a check. I got a check. A fucking residual check. No lie. $125. You know how much money I got out of it? $54. I'll show you the fucking stuff. Yeah, but they're taking out for all your kids you have everywhere. They're taking out for nothing. Because I'm... You get money back for... You're having kids. The single people get fucked. Yeah, but not when you don't pay for them. Explain that to me. You got... Granted, they're taxing me for federal, they're taking out for Social Security, taking out for Medicaid, they're taking out for New York State, and they're taking out for California. But even the California is only a couple of dollars. They're taking out for the Milky Way. There's a Milky Way tax. There's state, federal, and now universe tax. What I'm saying is, trust me, you're not taking that much money home. No, you're not taking that much money home. Exactly. But the point is that if someone is making over 20% more, if you raise it up to $9, which would still, you know, which would then in 40 years be $360 a week, not exactly, you know... Not exactly fucking Hampton vacation money. Exactly, exactly. But that will... $360 a week, that comes out to about maybe $290 take home, if you're lucky. If you're lucky. If you're fucking lucky. So, but... And, you know, if you sell some cocaine and some angel dust on the side, you can sell... You can subsidize... You can subsidize not only your pain for being a minority, but you can also subsidize your income. But that still puts you... That still puts you... So it's a win-win situation for everybody. But they still... That'll put you in at making, you know, gross $18,700 a year. At $9.25. At nine bucks a year. Nine bucks an hour. College students make more than that. Yeah. So, yeah, okay. So, but you're talking... You're talking gross annual figures. But, I mean, but the reality is, you know, in this day and age, 13, I don't know anybody who can... Live on that. Sustain themselves on that little income. But then the argument is this, Peter. The argument is this. A lot of the people who are making minimum wage are uneducated. They don't have any skills, any job skills. So they're only able to get certain types of jobs, which only pay minimum wage. So that's the argument. No? Well, not necessarily. Okay. I mean, so... So if, you know, it depends on, you know, what they're doing. But at some point, I mean, these people are doing jobs that nobody else wants to do. Right. But they need to get done. Right. So, but they should be paid a fair wage to do it. Right. But who's to say what's a fair wage? Right? Because if the employer says that they can only afford to pay this... I'll tell you. Hold on. A fair wage is what somebody is willing to do it for. As soon as nobody's willing to do it, for that dollar, now the price has to go up. But if you've got people lining up to do it for seven, you don't have to pay eight. Not according to Peter's illustration. A fair wage would be something that someone would get per hour so that it would facilitate them to have a decent way of living. But it costs a lot more to live in this country than it did in the 50s and 60s. It really does. And in New York and California, even more so. Exactly. You know, with rent going up, the cost of a house. I mean, there's so many more people in the... What house, dude? We're not talking about people who live in houses. But back then, you could go and get a job and you didn't have to be necessarily college educated. You just had to go and get a job and do your job. And you could have a family and you could do those things. And it was the American dream. Right. But now, the American dream is, Jesus Christ, I hope I can fucking pay my rent, you know? The American dream is butt implants and be like Kim Kardashian and be fabulous and a limousine. Go ahead, Peter. Don't be shy because you're going to have to... No, I hear you. But the point is that if... In those particular jobs, with these low-paying jobs, there's also a higher amount of turnover. Right. So there's cost to the employer of having to retrain people because people kind of, you know, keep cycling out. Right. But if you're paying them a little bit more or a fair wage... They may want to stay. They may want to stay. They may have opportunity to grow. That's a good point. But if they're doing their job better, that means they're more productive. So your business, therefore, becomes more productive. Right. And then you're providing a better service. So you're saying it's an investment in the long term for the business and for the owner. To invest in your employees. Right. Absolutely. Because the other thing that you didn't mention is that if you pay employees less, and not only is there a higher turnover, but there's a higher possibility of your taco shells being licked. Let me ask you this. No, that's a good point. You know what I mean? Absolutely. And somebody taking off their shoes and mashing the potatoes at Wendy's with their feet. Or somebody taking a bath in the fucking sink where you're supposed to be washing the dishes. Or somebody urinating in the fucking salad. Or shooting up a movie theater. When was the last time you... When was the last time you went to an In-N-Out burger? Okay? I haven't been to an In-N-Out burger. How happy are these motherfuckers when you go to a... They're all like smiles and shit. Yeah, yeah. They get paid really well. They get paid better than most cooks do at a fine, at a nice restaurant. Do you know what In-N-Out burger... Do you know how much they get paid an hour? What is it, 12? Something like that. Between 12 and $15. That's more than the cooks probably at a nice French restaurant or any of these restaurants downtown here. That's a very good point. And that goes with what Peter... That goes with what Peter's saying. That's a very good point. I had an In-N-Out burger Friday night driving back into LA. And they weren't rude, were they? No, they're the nicest people. Like, we were retarded in the way we were ordering. Of course. And the guy was like... Big up! Big the fuck up In-N-Out burger, you fucking double special sauce, double patty with the onions, animal style eating motherfuckers! So you were acting a fool and you didn't... But they were patient. Hey, take your time, no worries. They don't care. Yeah, so... And even... And even... And even... Even the people waiting in line to eat a burger, they're also amicable. So the average salary for an associate at In-N-Out burger is $10.53 an hour. $10.53, okay. That's average. But that's average. But then if you're a cook, you're making $12.19 an hour. Right. So... And the longer you're there and the more you move up, that rate is going up. That's a perfect example and I'm glad you brought that up, Rich. That's a perfect example of what you're saying, Peter. You're saying that if the company invests in their employees, i.e. give them a little bit better benefits, and of course, the better benefits initially is a better wage, you know. Give them a better wage. They're apt to stay because they're apt to think, this is a good job. It's a good paying job. You know. If people feel they're being taken care of, they're going to be loyal. Why would you want to go somewhere else? Exactly. Right? Exactly. So, good point. And In-N-Out burger does take care of their people and that's part of why they're all happy and a lot of times... And that's why everybody loves them. It's a good product. The food is good. It tastes good. You don't have an asshole like, you know, dealing with... Right. You know. And there's always a line. Always a line. There's always a fucking line going into those places. The lights are off and people are pulling up. Could you imagine some people actually say In-N-Out burger sucks? No. I mean, there's a whole slew of people that'll say, In-N-Out burger sucks. It's not that good and I don't think it's that great and all this other stuff. They can say that, but they eat vegan. They're vegans. Down the toilet with the vegans. In-N-Out burger. Yeah, that's right. In-N-Out burger. We love them. So, okay. So, you're in total support of $15 an hour. I mean, this is a discussion that can go on for hours. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Because $15 an hour is more than 50% of the current minimum wage. So, you're asking employers to double the minimum wage, which is... That's a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people considering, that... I don't know how it is now, but the economy isn't necessarily 100% People aren't buying. You know what I mean? I mean, people are buying, but I don't see people... I think I read an article where people... People who spend a lot of money aren't buying as much, meaning the richer people aren't buying as much. Let me ask you this. If you have a society of people that have maxed out their credit and they can't get any more credit, and this society is dependent on people buying shit, like our society, how are these companies supposed to actually make any money? If the people that they're employing or that are living in this society, how are they going to buy the shit? How does that work? And that runs right in line with that. They can't get any more credit. It was really great a couple of years ago when people could mortgage their house or they could fucking get a credit card because they could get a credit card. Yeah. Because they were giving credit cards to fucking anybody. Yeah. They're giving them to 16-year-olds. Yeah. More than three... So to that point though, today's Wall Street Journal, the US government posted its biggest June budget surplus on record after receiving big dividend payments from mortgage giants, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae. So things are turning around. They're going slowly, but things are definitely getting better. The employment numbers are consistently, month after month, getting better, taking up slowly. So why did the stock market, for instance, the other day, like fell because of the fear of the bonds not being... Because the fear of interest rates going higher. When interest rates go higher, bond prices go lower. Right. And so, you know, we've had very easy money. The Fed has... So if interest rates go higher, that means people are less apt to borrow and less apt to spend. Well, yeah, because it's going to cost more for you to borrow and people have been basically borrowing money at this point. Which is what you were saying, which is people who were... Rich was saying, people are going to max out their credit and they can't buy more goods. Yeah, they can't get another credit card. So you're saying... The banks are going to want to give... You're saying that the Feds reported... The biggest June budget surplus on record after... And what does that mean? So basically, that... It means Obama's turning it around. Basically, the revenues that are coming in, you know, on a monthly basis are at a surplus. We're not running at a deficit month over month. So this June, it was... They received... It was the largest June surplus... This is the Fed. ...in five years. In fact, it was broadly an improvable fiscal outlook as well as almost... Almost $67 billion in payments from two mortgage finance companies. Got it. But here's this. More than three-quarters of Americans say they are living paycheck to paycheck. More than three-quarters, okay? With barely enough to scrape by in an emergency, okay? In a survey of 1,000 adults, fewer than one in four said they had enough money to cover expenses for six months. Half said they had less than a three-month cushion, while about a quarter said they had no savings at all. So everybody's fucked, and what it comes down to is that people are spending less money and paying their bills. They're buying less from the companies. They're buying less from things, but they're paying the things that they have to pay. Let me ask something. Their mortgage because they don't want to lose their house. That becomes a priority rather than a really expensive pair of kicks or... But so much of what was driving the economy before everything, the bottom fell out in 2008 and 2009, was the fact that the real estate boom had taken off. People had all this, you know, positive equity that they were borrowing against and taking second, mortgages on to go out and then live above their means and then, you know, got in this vicious cycle and got into this huge hole. And then when the economy tanked and a lot of people lost their jobs, it just... So with that example, a lot of people are responsible, right? You can't just pinpoint, you can't just point the finger at banks. No. Everyone's got... I always say this on the show many times, that the main problem in America is irresponsibility, okay? People, in general, do not want to take responsibility. You know what I mean? You got to take responsibility. Corporations got to take responsibilities. Banking industries have to take responsibility. The fucking government has to take responsibility. What happens is that there's a lot of finger pointing and, oh, it wasn't me. I didn't do that. No, he's Republican. No, he's Democrat. No. And nothing ever gets done. You know what I'm saying? On the individual level, on the individual level, if you're hurting, it's because you're not saving. You're not putting aside. But here's the deal. Here's the deal. But you got to have that BMW. You got to have that iPhone. No, no. That's here in L.A. But that's the irresponsibility. Well, that's part of the irresponsibility. Living within your means is the... It's economics 101. Yeah. My father didn't graduate from high school. My mother didn't graduate from high school. My mother worked at a factory, okay? My father was a fucking doorman, okay, in New York. A doorman, okay? So what I'm trying to tell you is, I don't come from an educated view of economics, but the basics, the basics, what I learned from the basics was, you live within your means. Exactly. If you have a dollar to eat, right, and it's you and me, Peter, then that means we have 50 cents each to eat, right, Peter? And you and I go to In-N-Out Burger and the fucking burgers cost a dollar. Guess what, Peter? You and I are going to split a burger, right? Absolutely. And maybe I'm going to punch somebody in the head and take their soda because we didn't have enough money for the soda. You know what I mean? No, all jokes aside. And how do you divide the soda? You take a sip and you take a sip. But let me throw this in there. Let me throw this in there. Your father or your grandfather, those previous generations, this might not relate to anything, but they didn't have 10 Capital One ads on the Super Bowl. They didn't have this constant pressure to go and get credit cards. I got it. There is responsibility for the person. They need to get to resist all of those things. I got it. And they need to live it within the means. I totally get it. I got it. But they also, but the responsibility does lie with these companies, too, that say, hey, if we inundate our society with the okay to put everything on credit, they're so short-sighted and they just want, you know, they think that they're going to get it in the end, but they're not because it's going to run out at some point, in my opinion. Well, here's the flip side, okay? Not the flip side, but the other end, like you said, the corporations. You got to go back to America during a time when in America, all goods and services were created in America, right? So you made things in America. You lived off the land initially, right? Then you created goods in America that you sold to Americans that worked in the plants where the goods were created, right? At some point, corporations decided or felt that it was better for them economy-wise to outsource their labor. To go to other countries, right? And instead of paying somebody here $3.25 an hour, let me just say this, Peter, because I may be full of shit completely and speaking on my ass, but let me finish my thought on this. Instead of paying somebody $3.25 an hour, which I think was $3.75 was the minimum wage back in the 70s, 80s, you can pay somebody, you know, $3 a week in Thailand to do what somebody, what it would cost you a couple thousand dollars. Anyway, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Peter. So you're talking about responsibility in that piece and, you know, what companies started doing, like you said, was then shipping the jobs overseas, manufacturing the things overseas, you know, jobs that were here in the U.S., especially like in the auto industry. Auto industry, perfect example. Perfect example. So the, I remember, this is years ago, 15 years ago, but I remember reading a statistic that at one point General Motors, because of their pension liability to their retired auto workers because of their deal with the auto union, that $3,000 to $4,000 of the sticker price of one of their cars was just... For the pension, for the pension. And so, but the problem though, which the auto companies didn't take responsibility for was they were making shitty cars back then. No, no, no, no, no, not just shitty cars. They were making cars that consumed more fuel. Okay? As a result, more fucking fuel costs more gas money. The Japanese came in and said, we can make a more fuel efficient car, smaller, faster, cheaper, more reliable, that will run for 150, 200,000 miles. Guess what happens to the fucking U.S. autos? Exactly. But the fact is that they were making crappy cars. They were making a crappy... It wasn't the workers' fault. Right, right, no. They were making the cars that they designed that they said, hey, this is what we... Because they wanted to fucking be more cost... They wanted to make more money on a product. See, I don't have a problem with passing the buck down. Okay? Here's the deal. You just made a perfect example. So, $3,000 or $4,000 of the sticker price of that car goes to pay for the pension of an auto worker. So be it. What's the problem? Right? So you pay for fucking $3,000 or $4,000 knowing that the money you're putting into a product that you're buying is going to help the person who helped make that car. In turn, that person will... But the problem was it was going into the price of the car that nobody wanted to buy. Right. No, no, no, no. Got it, got it, got it. So you got to go way back before that when they start making... At one point, America made really good cars. I'm sorry. They did. Who was the first? Mazda. I remember in the 70s, Mazda came in. Mazda. Hyundai came in in the 90s, right? It was Honda. It was Toyota. It was Datsun. Datsun. And they became Toyota. No, they actually became Nissan. Nissan. Right. Got it. But those came over here and gas started to spike and you could buy a car that got 40 miles to the gallon. Yeah, but gas didn't start to spike, Peter. Gas was always fucking expensive. I mean, hold on. Our gas is still... Cheap. Cheap. Relative to what the rest of the world pays. Right, right, right, right. What happened... Here's a turning point. The oil embargo of the 70s, okay? That was a wake-up call to auto manufacturers to say, let's stop making six and eight fucking cylinder cars and let's try to do four cylinder cars, more fuel efficient and make them better. And they came out with that Mustang II. Well... Oh, don't even talk to me about that shit. Well, listen to this. When I was a little kid, my dad... Our first car was, I remember, it was a red 67 Mustang convertible. Oh, wow. It was... Wow. It was... I loved that car. That's a sexy car. It was a sexy car. Red 67 Mustang convertible, black leather interior, it was awesome. Started to have... That's because Larry's a sexy motherfucker. Yeah, well, the sexy motherfucker traded in for a Mustang II. It was... Oh, my God. I still haven't forgiven him for that shit. I mean, it's just... Oh, he did trade in for a II, huh? Yeah, I flushed the toilet for that one. They tried to copy the Japanese and, you know, with the... Oh, man, that car... With the Mustang. Oh, my God. That was so terrible. I mean... Well, American... The American auto industry had a lot of flops. It's not just the Mustang II. I think that was just the beginning for the Ford Motor Company. That was a big one, though. Oldsmobile had some fucked up shit. Chrysler had some fucked up shit. I mean, they all followed suit. But then you had these companies like General Motors that had four or five divisions that were essentially making the same car. The same shit. I mean, I just... You know, how much... With different names. Right. Yeah, you know, I mean, the grille was different, a different nameplate on it. To try to corner the market. And they all broke down the same. Right. And they all sucked. And they were kind of... Everybody... You know, there was like a conspiracy that these cars were kind of designed to break down, so you had to take them into the shop or you had to buy parts. But then, you know, in the late 90s or in the 90s when oil prices were below two bucks a gallon or whatever. How long have we been playing? But, you know, you had a situation that they were building SUVs and oil prices were going to stay low forever and then, you know, that's all they would manufacture. We'll probably go about 10, 15 minutes. And then oil prices went through the roof and then we wanted to buy SUVs and then they were screwed again and they had to, you know, reinvent themselves. So, I mean, the U.S. auto industry for the last 30 or 40 years has not been... not had their shit together. They're always a step behind. For the last 10, 15 years, bro? For the last 30 years? That's what I said, the last 30 or 40 years. 30, 40 years. You got to go way back to see what's happened in Detroit. The last thing they did was the 67 Mustang convertible, basically. I mean... But that's... What about an 82 Cutlass? Supreme. Yeah. How about a DeLorean? Yeah. Well, you know, one of the problems when you... Hold on, hold on. Hold on a second. You know, I haven't found a reason to play this but I got to do it. So you can just suck my cock Right off that bloodstone There's no way up the wall All right, thank you. Yeah, all right. Here's the problem. When you're talking about jobs in the United States, you're kind of like... You're kind of multiplying pennies. You're not going to really... You know, all the people out there working jobs, you're not going to get ahead. Just do the math. You know, like, if you're working, you talked about 40 hours a week. 40 hours a week, it's a finite number. You're talking about a finite amount of money that you're going to get in a finite amount of time in your life where you're healthy enough to work. And if you add up how much money you could earn times what you're going to need due to inflation and all the other economic factors, if you just have a job, guys, you're not going to make it in this country. You have to find some business, some... The whole country is designed that you own businesses, not that you go to work for somebody else with a business. Yeah, but owning businesses... Well, somebody's got to work at that business. Right. But the problem is, don't let it be you. And who's going to buy the product that you're making or the service that you're doing as a business? I'm saying... I'm not worried about the people working at the businesses. I'm saying, if you're one of the people working at the businesses and you're not doing something on the side, no, but then... But time is not on your side. Mr. Griffin, everything's working. I'm not working against you. Hello, Mr. Griffin. Are you hiring for babysitter? But you have two challenges with that right now is because it's still really hard for people, especially if they're starting a business, to borrow money. Right, right. So, I mean, the banks are not like... You got to have money. You have to have equity. In order to borrow... I disagree. That's not... Disagree? You're talking to a man that comes from the bank? But not all businesses require loans in the beginning. Give me an example of a business that doesn't require a loan or a small capital. I'm talking about a store, eBay store, selling products on Craigslist. Okay. Well, yeah, and that's a good little thing on the side. What are you going to sell on Craigslist? You buy something for a dollar, you sell it for two. What I'm saying is if you only have a job... If you only have a job... But does everybody have to be an entrepreneur in this country? Yeah, but that's a fucking... Yeah. That's a pot smoker mentality. No, no, no. They have to? Because to get ahead in the United States financially, yes, you have to be an entrepreneur. If you're just working... But couldn't you have a good life not being an entrepreneur? Okay, well, you used the ambiguous term, good life. When you say good life, where are you deriving this from? A sitcom in which they have a good life? No, I'm deriving it... I'm deriving it... Oh, shit! I'm deriving it from being able to afford... Let's just talk math. Everything. And what I'm saying is if you're talking about it from a purely mathematical standpoint, no, you cannot have... You will run out of money. Raise the volume. You will run out of time. You will run out of money and time. The difference... Yo, you know what that means? Straight the fuck up. Do you agree with what I'm saying, Peter, or do you think that you could still go to work for somebody else's company and still retire, still send kids to college, still own a home? Well, that's the idea that's kind of laid out. You go work for other... But they're not retiring. That's kind of the idea that's been laid out by everybody. I'm telling you it's not true. I don't think you're wrong, Simon, but I don't think... I don't think your answer is the solution to the whole issue, okay? I think that... It's a personal solution. I think it's a personal solution for you. No, I'm saying if you're not making it... I'm saying if you're not making it financially and you only have one job and you have only... So you're trading hours for dollars? So you're not going to have enough dollars and you're not going to have enough hours. You're saying eBay and you're saying Craigslist. You're assuming that everyone that we're speaking of has a computer. No, you just asked for an example. I can give you 10 examples. Give me another example. Give me another example that doesn't require the computer. The difference between eBay and your job... First of all... The difference between eBay and your job is you can't make money at your job while you're asleep. First of all, eBay... You have a set amount of hours... eBay? Fuck you, eBay. Okay? Fuck you, eBay. With the fucking fees and all this other bullshit, fuck you, eBay. Okay? That's my take on eBay. I'm saying if you... I gave you an example of a web-based e-commerce style business... Here's some hope. ...where you could make money and you're... You're not bound by hours. Here's some hope. ...people going to school to learn something other than entrepreneurial things, they're kind of fucked. Here's some hope. I think you're in trouble. You're wrong. I think that's not how this... You're wrong. That's not capitalism. You're wrong. You're wrong. Okay. Here's some hope. Here's some hope. The U.S. economy, okay? The U.S. economy is expected to generate 55 million jobs by 2020. It doesn't matter. Let me finish. And 65 of them will require more than a high school diploma. It doesn't matter. If current graduation rates hold steady, the U.S. will wind up 5 million college-educated workers short. Okay, so here's the point. They can have 150 million jobs. It doesn't matter. Negative, negative, because the emphasis now is going to be on education. Let's face it. We're not our parents that came to this country or our parents' parents that came to this country without any educational skills, without any job skills. Here's the thing. If everybody's education, no one has an education. Dude, dude. If everyone has a diploma... Go ahead. Go ahead, Peter. So here's the thing. This is what separates America, from the rest of the world. A lot of people in Europe, in Asia, who go and work for a lot of these, you know, they're multinational corporations and they have fat pensions and a lot of benefits and a lot more quote-unquote job security and they get to retire at, you know, 65 or whatever. But they don't have the... Like, our workforce is way more transient these days than it was, you know, 30 or 40 years ago. Transient meaning they come and go. So people switch jobs a lot more. Right, right, right. So 10, 15 years ago... I could suck your dick for $10 in a lot longer. Exactly. So, but the fact is... I don't need benefits. I'll just swallow it. I'm not afraid of getting my throat infested. Go ahead. But people... But the thing about America is that people now have more portability with their jobs and are more apt to switch to go and pursue other opportunities and there are more opportunities to pursue. When you look, our unemployment rates as high as they are in the last 10 years, and shitty as it's been for a lot of people for many years, relative to what the rest of the world's going through in Europe, those people are hosed there. I mean, you have over 20% unemployment. So the ability for people to kind of make their own destiny here and pull themselves up... It's still here. It's still here. It's still here. And it's happening and technology is where it's happening. Especially with the technological advancements that are happening in our lifetime. One fucking second, things are changing like that. Rapid fire. Which goes into your arena. We discussed briefly, you were a headhunter, you worked in the stock market, but I didn't know that you moved over from trading to being a headhunter in the technology sector. Correct. Briefly, give us a little rundown on that and then I want to know how that translated to what you do now. Which is, you're getting... So for many years, I worked in financial services, I worked in trading on the trading floor. I've been down there for many years and as time went on, more and more, you know, more and more of what I did became automated and there was less dependence on human interaction in terms of... Stock trading and selling. Stock trading, buying and selling the actual stock. They wanted less people involved in that. Right. So I was able to transition from that and get into recruiting or headhunting as you put it. Recruiting experienced workforce. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Soft engineers. Workforce. Workforce. Highly trained workforce. In most instances, a highly trained workforce is mostly people who are, you know, have a minimum bachelor's degree. A lot of them have masters in... Yeah, but you were talking about... You were talking about software developers for banking industry, for corporate industry. Yeah. You were talking about that the business you were in, the financial sector was being automated so now banks and corporations needed new software to run their... To run their operations. Right. Right. Right. So, you know, whether it's running a network of, you know, 10,000 ATMs or if it's a loan origination system for a mortgage portion of a bank or it's... Loan origination system. What is that? So, a loan origination system is basically the... A computer system that manages the workflow of the loan process. So, basically, from a... If you go in to apply for a loan, you know, you fill out all the paperwork. Cash call. I called him up. The guy takes my information. He inputs it in the computer. And they do the... You know, as part of it, the credits. They do the credit checks. They, you know, you know, look at that, what the rate is. Then, you know, what they call the back office is then usually once the mortgage is created, then banks then sell the mortgage off and they pull it into other mortgages which created... So, all those things are automated and... Run by programs and software that are commonly used or widely used within the industry. Within these industries and especially with the consolidation within the banking industry. So, these big banks were kind of gobbling each other up and then they each had their own individual system at which point those systems had to be merged which is a, you know, a big technological challenge for them. So, that's the kind of stuff that I did coming out of working on Wall Street was working for a company that provided resources to help do that. A lot of it had to do with storing, you know, like building big data warehouses to store lots of, you know, records and account information and records and stuff. Because that was... Well, that's another... No, no, no. That's another... I don't even get into that. But that's a perfect example of that whole... industry changing from paper files to data files. Yeah. So, where do you store all that shit? That wasn't a problem that was ever dealt with because it wasn't an issue. How do you store it? How do you make it redundant so, you know, something breaks and you don't lose, you know, everything that you're... Backed up and... And so you don't have to do the shit twice. It checks itself, right? Well, it checks itself but it also... It creates the ability for them to, you know, look at the information that's being collected in a very organized way, very quickly, so they can make more real-time decisions in terms of how they run their business. Now, you're not trained in all this. You were trained from the inside workings of the financial sector, i.e. the stock market. Correct. So, this guy... This guy... This guy, a friend of your father's, hires you and he hires you based on the fact that you understand the inner workings of who he is trying to hire people to work for, which are the banking people, the corporate businesses, that are looking to develop software and stuff like that. At the time, he had several customers that were large banks, large financial institutions that were building these systems and I understood how these systems worked from the inside. From the inside. So, in terms of being able to... And it was helpful for their team of recruiters for me to help kind of educate them on that and at the same time, they kind of taught me more about, you know, what the technology was that was actually, you know, the programming around the systems to do that and I just slowly, you know, kind of learned what they did. And this was what? Like 95, 97? No, this is 2000, started like 2004. 2004. Yeah. Okay, so like nine years ago, this is when you got into the recruiting? Recruiting, yeah. Beautiful. Because I never heard of this and like I said, I always thought you recruited like CEOs, CFOs for coming back because that's another type of recruiting. Right. So, okay. So, how... You're recruiting now for software developers for a game? For a game company, yes. For a game company. Tell me about that. So, the company I work for makes a hugely popular online video game called League of Legends. League of Legends. League of Legends. And it's the most popular online game in the world right now. We have over 70 million registered users. We have... Over 32 million active monthly players and... 22 million active? 32 million active. 32 million? And we have probably 12... You're telling me that there are that much, fuck, that many marijuana smokers in America? Yeah. Yeah. In America, the state of... These kids are... They're not marijuana smokers. No. These kids... It's a highly competitive game because it's a multiplayer. So, it's two teams of five. And you can join up... How does that work? I'm sorry. I'm not going to ask. I've never even seen the game. How does it work? How does it work? Yeah. I mean, so I log on. I'm a player. You go to our game. You download it. You load it onto your computer. You create an account. You log in. And it's free. You can start playing it right away. Right. And basically... So, basically... How do I get on a team? So, here's the thing. You can... It's a very social game. A lot of people play as... It's very competitive, very social. So, a lot of people have networks of friends who play it together. So, you can create a custom game with your friends to play. What's it called? It's called League of Legends. League of Legends. Okay. So, and then the other thing is we have a... Part of our software is we have what's called a matchmaking system. So, it will analyze your game history. Your skill. Your skill level. And then it will match you into a game of people of similar skill. So, if you go online and you see none of your friends around to play, So, it's like a chat room or a community board and you just go in and it says, you know, put me in. It'll put you in and then it will find a game for you and then match you in and from there you get and the game loads and you go and play the game. So, the computer says you're a fucking loser. Here, the loser team. Ping! And you go in and then you're like quack, quack, quack, quack. Oh, man. Do I have to play with the scrubs again? Even a League of... Legend of League? What the fuck is it called? Oh, it's League of Legends. League of Legends. But the whole... The philosophy behind the game and the guys who found our company were hardcore, passionate gamers. Gamers, yeah. So, they wanted to be what they call the most player-focused game company in the world. These are American guys? Yeah, they're born here in LA. Nice. I mean, they're local boys from LA. Nice. They went to USC. Nice. They, after college, they were roommates. They started out on their careers doing, you know, one was a management consultant in Bain, one worked at a marketing company here in LA, but they always were kind of bitten by the bug to make a video game and they kind of came up with this idea. And basically, they came up with the program, they came up with the prototype, raised some money and started building it. They formed the company in 2006, they launched the game in 2009 and it is just taking off like wildfire. It's crazy. How do they make their revenue? They make their revenue through what's called microtransactions or, um, um, microtransactions or, um, uh, you know, uh, buying stuff kind of within game. So, um... Got it. So, but the thing about... So, you need more missiles. Yeah, you need... It's actually not... Oh, shit! Sergeant! You need more missiles! You need a condom! There's a hooker coming your way! Oh, please! Three dollars. It's... So, you've been online for 12 hours, you don't really need a condom, you just need one on the game. So, no, actually, the way it works is, is that you can buy what's called, uh, our in-game currency and then you don't buy actual, like, weapons or anything. Um, we have, uh, what we refer to as... The game is based on characters or we refer to them as champions. So, you can then, if you find a champion that you like, like and want to play, you can buy that champion and then you own him forever. Or we create what's called custom skins, which give him a unique look and feel within the game. Identity, yeah. Yeah, identity. And so, the champions are really cool. A lot of the original champions when the game launched are based on people who actually work at the company. Got it. So, they have kind of cool, they have kind of cool personalities and, and... And cool special powers and shit? And just cool powers and cool abilities and our players really relate to them and, you know, create, like, a deep emotional bond. But the other thing that's really cool about it is that there are a lot of people who play our game and actually never spend a penny and they just, the more games you play, you're, you know, and the better you get at it, you're able to unlock more of the game. It just kind of takes longer. Like Zelda? Like the Legends of Zelda? Yeah, sort of. So, this is, this is pretty interesting. So, how long have you been working for them? About two and a half years. Two and a half years. So, the game is so, obviously so popular. Correct. And it has a big following. Correct. That the owners and, and, and the, your bosses, the creators of the show are constantly looking for other people to develop different aspects of the game, different levels. So, so, the thing that makes this different is, is unlike most traditional games that you would buy for your, let's say your Xbox or your, your PlayStation, whatever, most, most of those games are developed over long periods of time. So, like every year, every fall, Call of Duty comes out and you go to the store and you buy the next version of Call of Duty. The next version. So, the thing that makes this a little bit different is, is that our game is under continuous development. So, every couple weeks we're releasing something new into the game, a new feature, a new champion, new skins. So, it's always changing, it's always evolving. So, when the game launched in 2009, we had roughly 40 champions. We now have, I think, 117 total people, champions, characters within the game. That, that, that comes down to 117 rich motherfuckers that want to pay extra money to become champions and have big, long foreskins. Well, you know what? That, kudos. That's ingenious. Yeah, so it's, that's ingenious. But it, they've really kind of disrupted the, the, the, the industry. In terms of how a, a game's like a, They've shaked, they've shaked, they've shaken the whole industry. Shaken the whole industry. For many reasons, because now you don't even need to get an Xbox. You can play this game online in your computer. You play it on your Mac, you play it on your PC. It was originally on PC. We, we launched a Mac version a few months ago. We got some Japanese motherfuckers to come on board and be like, Kamichiwa! Kuriko to wo! Ah! Zinguo! Actually, the biggest, one of the biggest markets for us is, is China. We, it's huge, the game is huge in China, Korea, where video games the national sports of, of, of Korea. Video games, video games are Cheerios. Yeah, well, it's competitive. And, and one of the cool things is, is that, um, our, there's a professional grade of player in our, in our game. And we have a professional league. And so this, we just announced today, actually, that our world championships are going to be held at the Staples Center this October. Oh, wow. So the, so last year we, we had them at the Galen Center, which is the basketball arena at USC. Oh, wow. And we had like 9,000 people sold out. Oh, wow. And 8 million, 8 million people tuned in online to watch the stream from around the world. Oh, wow. That's awesome, dude. Yeah, it's, so it's, it's, it's amazing. I'm going to have to go down and do, do some NPR fucking interviewing and shit. There you go. Yeah, let's go down. What's it, did it knock down the world, like World of Warcraft or is that still going or how does, I mean, it's, I, I don't know that much about it. I just hear and, World of Warcraft has dropped in popularity. Our game is a little bit different because World of Warcraft is like a virtual world that just kind of goes on and on and on. We're probably going to wrap it up within five minutes. Whereas our game is session based, so each game is like, has a beginning, middle and end and typically lasts for about 40, 40, 45 minutes is a typical game for us. So you don't drop out of college just to play a game, you don't have to. Actually, I was talking to one, I was talking to one of our directors of engineering and he was telling me a story. He goes, I met this guy who like dropped out of Stanford to play, to play the game. Sure. Wow. Sure. But, but I mean, those are rare, rare stories, but, but every, every major college campus and I'm sure, I'm sure there are some college kids who are listening somewhere out in the NPR, the Storious Public Radio. The Storious Public Radio. The Storious Public Radio Universe. I'm going to check it out. But it's, it's, it's, it's a lot of fun. I'm going to check it out. Yeah. What's the name of your company? Riot Games. Riot. I've heard of Riot. Yeah. Big up Riot Games, you fucking crazy motherfucker. Big up, big up Riot Games. That's right. Awesome. Yo, it's, it's been a, it's been, I mean, I get, I get, we could, I mean, we could keep going for hours here. We could, we could keep going for hours. We could light a fire and I'll just huddle around it and get some warmth. No, no, because, because, because the other aspect of this is that you're a big social network geek. I mean, I'm using the word geek with a lot of affection. No, I, yeah, I mean, I mean, affectionate geek. No, you're the first person, you're the first person to ever tell me about Twitter. You, you, you were the first person ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I don't remember how long ago it was, but I was like, what are you doing on your, on your Blackberry? This is, you were like, oh, I'm tweeting. I'm like, what the fuck is that? And you were like, well, yeah, you follow this person and then they follow you and you post and you told me about the Kogi barbecue truck, the Korean barbecue, and you, and you follow it and you, you told me about that and at the time I thought, what the fuck are you talking about? It's so bizarre. Like, why, I mean, why should I be doing that? All of a sudden, you fast forward. I mean, when was the first time you got into Twitter? I got into Twitter, I think it was back in 2008. Got it. So that's how long, that's how long it's been. 2008. So, yeah. And I was reading a lot about it in a lot of the tech blogs and then I heard a story about it on, on the radio on the way into work one day and I just went on and created an account and, you know. And you were fucking tweeting. And tweeting and it's, it's, it's pretty cool. It is cool. It's cool if you know what the fuck you're doing because whenever I go on, I still don't know what's going on. I mean, I went on today because I was, I was looking at, I wanted to look at your tweet you know, your Twitter account, your Twitter, you know, I follow you, you're following me and I just wanted to understand a little better and I still don't understand it and I wish we had another hour or two so we can talk about this with you but what, what are, what are the advantages of having a Twitter account if you're a business, let's say, or for instance, if you're a show like us that want to promote and we want to get more followers, more listeners, obviously that's what your company does on Twitter, right? That's what most people do. We have a huge, we have a huge Twitter following. We, we have a huge Facebook page. We actually have one of the top, I think five YouTube channels on YouTube with our game but you know, for businesses, it's been a great tool for them to create a viral buzz in and around their, their, their, their, whatever their product or services that they're offering and especially something, one of the key drivers of, of Twitter is the ability to drive content so you're generating content here with your show every week so the ability to shoot out, you know, clips of your show or, On Twitter. On Twitter, yeah, you know, because you can upload, you can upload a soundbite and say, hey, here, you know, like last week you had what, Mason Pryor in here and you did, or a couple, a couple weeks ago so hey, I, you know, and then you can, if that person, whoever you're interviewing is on Twitter, you say, hey, we interviewed at, you know, what, at so and so on Twitter, here's a, here's a sample tune, tune in, tune in this week and, and, you know, it kind of builds off itself and, and, and the cool thing is if the people who you're bringing in here who have, you know, significant networks, they then can, you know, retweet your tweet or, you know, shout out at you and say, hey, you know, listen to it. So it's basically, you know, turning on a light bulb and having all the flies or the, or the, or the bugs come at it and then redirecting that light bulb to other places and the flies just keep, it's creating awareness, creating visibility and, and Twitter has a lot, has evolved and so, and, and so they, I haven't, but, so they have, you know, they have a way to, you know, you can advertise, use it as an advertising platform to advertise your product or service but, yeah. No, it's fucking hot in here. We're going to wrap it up. I think Simon's melting. He's melting. Let me just take my shirt off. So, so, no, no. So, so anyway, you wear, this is the camera. We're on a live stream. Yeah, guys, I'm just going to take my shirt off. You can say hi. So, you know what? That's a, that's a lot of information. What we're going to do is we're going to take Peter out for, for drinks and, and some coffee and some, some, some dessert or something. If anyone has some blankets we could borrow. Sometimes, sometimes soon. An electric blanket too. No, we're going to get a Twitter fucking lesson or a couple because we, we really need to get up on that. But anyway, we're going to, we're going to wrap it up. We're going to wrap this up and say, thank you so much, Peter, for coming in. Will you come back another time? I would love to. Really? Yeah, this is a lot of fun. Yeah, I know, I know you were very enthusiastic about my, I really, really appreciate it. I love the show. I know you do. And I, and I really love people with enthusiasm, enthusiasm about my show. You know me for a long time. So people ask me a lot of times what this show is and I like to tell them I'm bringing the street corner to your ear, ear, ear, ear, ear, ear, ear. You know what I'm saying? So we want to say thank you very much to Peter Grossman. All the best to Riot. You know what I'm saying? And again, tune in every Thursday night. From 9 to 10 p.m. here on skidrowstudios.com. 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I ain't doing nothing but talking shit, so y'all gotta, like, you know, encourage me the whole way along. It just happens, I get prepared.