Hey, everybody. Hello, hello. I can't hear myself. Hmm. This is behind the scenes at the More Music Radio pod, and we're about to go on air with Keith Coogan. Keith is here. What's going on, Keith? Oh, I'm just watching you guys get this thing rolling. This is awesome. I was running a little late today. There was an accident on the freeway, and I had no other choice but to just sit there. I'm always late. We're always running a little bit late, you know. The power's out at every other signal in town right now because of the wind. At home, you know, like, they're going to, like, need two or three days to get our power back on. It was fucking crazy last night. Yeah, really fucking crazy, man. Like, the tree next door, like, snapped in half. It was like a really old tree, giant tree. That's my mom calling. She's scared. She's scared because there's no, uh... And I'm like, oh, my God. Is that a specific ring for your mom? That's just the general ring. I just got this phone, so I'm like, oh, just put Rocket on real quick. You want me to help you out, Sonia? Um, sure. Okay, cool. So right now, I'm reading off the list of stuff that's going to be played. Okay, I got soccer mom and intro so far. All right, soccer mom and then intro. Okay, and then there's a space, and then you go into the jail. Is that in there? I don't think so. Oh, shit, it's not on there. It might take a few more minutes because we're... You know how that happens where you got to, like, manually dump that in there? So, like, this is, like, all the tracks that we're going to play. And, like, what this thing does is it, like, plays them back to back, and it leaves the spaces that you tell it to leave, but it's pretty much automated, you know? So we have this. We're going to play. There's, like, bumpers and stuff. There's songs. There's, like, little IDs in there. You go to jail? You go into the jail. And then the satanic bumper. I wonder if anybody's listening right now. We'll be done very soon, I promise. Okay, which bumper? Satanic. What happened? We have two people listening right now. I wonder who they are. I wonder if it's... It's Patrick. Yeah. All right. Okay, and then the... Okay, you're going to the jail, and then the satanic, and then the bolides banned from Burt. For those who are just joining us, they're putting together the audio cues for the radio program, which will start shortly. Vince decided to go ahead and turn the mic on live because he's crazy. Yeah. I've been told that before. The bolides and then DIY. What's that mean? It's right there. Okay, and then Sketch Monster. That's right. Got a Sketch Monster in there. And then Charlie Parker promo. Okay. There he is right there. And then... We play at every show. Yeah, right. There it is. All right. And then Fight for Your Right. Beastie Boys. There it is right there. All right. And then Hood Rat. That one's not on here. No? I'm going to call it up. Hood Rat Bitch, right? Yeah. That's Hood Rat Bitch from... Everybody thinks they know who they are You Finding the music cues and Manhattan murder mystery stadium way Okay, and then pussy cow steroids and then cool skull scared kid Okay, and then party all the time It's already on there and it's already right after yeah, oh it is yeah, it's in green. Oh, okay Well, I saw that song like five minutes ago and I was like, yeah, let's play that now All right, and then the ching chong bumper We're not racist the lady on the bumpers Hey, what's up, Dan? Right down are you okay? So where we at? Cafe Pauline and then The promo show I forgot a fucking thing Moke Japan No, no, no, okay after Hey after the Evangeline we need a promo so do the Karen centerfold or something shit So try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to Alright, and then we got Dyslexic's TV Boy, Mormon's Red Still Dawn, Whitman Rick D's Promo, and then Lost Due to Incompetence. So TV Boy actually goes after the Japan thing. TV Boy goes after Japan right there. Yeah there you go, perfect. And then Saint Thomas at the end. Have you been to Mr. Tease Bowl right? Is that where you saw us a long time ago? Oh probably. Yeah? It's over in Highland Park. It's like a little shitty dive bar. Totally. Love that place man. So this song they played at the end of every night, it's like the Tear Down song, you know whatever, so we love that place after every show we do this song. There we go, good. Oh this is Dan, this is Keith. Hey Dan. I'm Dan, nice to meet you. Keith, nice to meet you. Don't be scared of his beard, he's really nice. Oh no, I was rocking that beard. Oh yeah, I was rocking that beard. Yeah, I was rocking that beard a couple of months ago. I can't do that, it's so patchy. Alright, okay good. Okay, so let's connect them. So, Sockermoms is connected to the intro, Dyslexic, and then U Going to the Jail is connected to Satanic, okay okay so let's connect them soccer moms connected to the intro and then you go into the jail is connected to satanic okay which is gonna yeah no no okay you're going to jail okay satanic and then yeah you got it connected to the bull eyes to DIY sketch monster all the way to Beastie Boys okay and then you let's do it it's all good you show's gonna be starting in a couple minutes just stick around and we will be right with you with Keith Coogan thank you very much once again if you have any calls go ahead and call 1-800-893-9595 you can have a shout out say something you love something you hate whatever you want we're gonna be starting in a few minutes stick around thank you very much from skid row studios calm you try to try to try to try to try to try to I'm sorry. Hello? Hello? Hi. Hi. Who is this? Were you guys taking questions for Keith Coogan? Yes, actually. If you want to call back in another 10 minutes, we're going to get ready and start the show. And, yes, because he's not here yet. He went out for a second. So if you want to go ahead and give a call in 5, 10 minutes, you'll be able to speak to him. All right. Awesome. Thanks. 5, 10 minutes? Yes. All right. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, Gary's not home, and I'm alone here with Dylan. I think I hear someone outside. Yes, I have a gun, but I don't know how to use it. You must be Lee Purcell. Oh. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to scare you. I'm Mickey Fowler. Oh, that's okay, Mickey. It's just my first time in a shooting range, and I guess I'm a little nervous. Don't worry about that. I think you're going to enjoy this course. This is a shotgun. This is a rifle. Pistols. The word pistol always reminds me of the old westerns. Know what you mean. Or they're sometimes referred to as handguns because they're supported only with the hands. Or sidearms because they can be carried in a holster on the side of your body. First, we're going to take up the revolver, which is what I'm holding. You know, I've always wondered about something. Why is it called a revolver? Because the cylinder, where the cartridges go, revolves. That makes a lot of sense. Lee, did you know that different types of bullets can be used in the same gun? Oh, brother. Here are some examples of different types of bullets. This is a full-metal jacket design. Well, what kind of a bullet would I use for a homing shot? Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. home defense. A soft nose bullet like this, one that has a lead partially exposed, or a hollow point would be a good choice. Both are designed to transfer their energy to the target upon impact. What does that mean exactly? Basically more stopping power. It doesn't seem so threatening when you break it down like that. Well, now we need to get you some accessories, starting with safety glasses. These feel okay. How do I look? Looks pretty good to me. Me too. Well, hey guys, that girl's got to be fashionable, you know. Well, in that case, check out these earmuffs. How much do we actually have to cover before I can start shooting? Anything here is okay. Here isn't. How do you feel about what you've learned so far? Well, I'm not Annie Oakley yet, but I'm getting there. After thorough training and instruction with Mickey Fowler and Mike Dalton, Lee discovered that recreational shooting soon became one of her favorite sports. And like anything that one enjoys, she found herself telling her friends about it. Hi, Jean. Hi, Joanne. Hi, Lee. Nice seeing you again. You too. Is that the .357 that you bought? Yeah, I'm really anxious to try it out. Oh, and while you're at it, I'd like to rent that new Smith & Wesson Model 422. Joanne and I just bought it. I'm going to rent it. I'm going to rent it. I just got back from the garment district. We found some really good deals down there. Come on. Let's go do some shooting. Then we'll go shopping. Nice. Nice take. We'll do it live. Okay. Broadcasting from downtown Los Angeles. We'll do it live. Fuck it. It's the More Music Radio Pod. Do it live. I'll write it and we'll do it live. On skidrow.la. Fucking thing sucks. Yeah. Bye. Four, three. Hey, what's going on, everybody? It's the More Music Radio Pod on skidrow.la. We're up here at Skid Row Studios and we're having another party. All right. Yeah. We're now skidrow. Skidrow. All right. Good times. Tonight, we have Dan and we have our special guest, actor Keith Coogan. All right. Coogan. Yeah. All right. Thank you. No pictures. Hey, thanks for coming, man. I really appreciate it. I've always wanted to talk to you. Well, thank you for having me. Appreciate it. I remember you sent us a shout-out on MySpace when MySpace was functional and was kind of cool. MySpace. I haven't heard of that in a while. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, I still have a MySpace profile out there. Justin Timberlake is slipping if you haven't heard about that in a while. Isn't he in charge of that? Yeah, I know. He sucks, right? You know what, though? I've always turned to MySpace music because they'll play all the songs, the whole albums. You can always get a lot of good cuts in MySpace music. Quick plug and support for Justin and his work. Oh, okay. Cool. Yeah, get the new Justin Timberlake album on MySpace. Quick plug and support for the 99 Percenters. All right, Fox. Yeah. All right, Fox Media. All right, so you know what? Why don't we jump into the show? We're going to play a couple songs. We have some Manhattan Murder Mystery, Pussy Cow, some Pueblo Cafe, Olene, a lot of other stuff. But right now, we're going to listen to these songs. We also have a phone line. Yeah, we also have a phone line. That reminds me. Thanks, Dan. 893-9562. What would I do without you, man? I don't know. I'd forget the number. You'd forget stuff and then talk to our guests and stuff. I don't know. Well, cool. We're going to play these songs. And we'll be right back with Keith Coogan. All right. Yeah. Yeah. You put into the jail, okay? Understand? No. Yeah. Very soon. You're already a police reporter. Go on. Fuck you. Very soon. Within a few days. You're in the jail. Fuck you. I tell you. Fuck you. Believe me. Fuck you. When you go into the jail, then you fuck your mother, okay? Can I tell you? Fuck you. Yeah. Sure. Very soon. You be ready, okay? When soon? Very soon. When? Very soon. When? There's a court already recording going on the police station. Yeah? Yes, sir. No. Okay. Fuck you. Then you remember when you catch him. No, no. You're scaring me. I'm not kidding you, okay? No, stop it. I tell you. Don't worry. They're already on the court. They're on the police. You be on the recorder, okay? Don't tell the police. You be on the recorder. Don't. They're already at the police station. You talking right now? They're already at the police station. No. Okay. Fuck you. Wait. I show you. I show you someday. Stop it. You be on the jail. You get big trouble, okay? No, no, no. You welcome. You fuck. You son of a bitch. Someday you see, okay? Fuck you, eh? You see, sucker. Fuck you. The more music ray upon. Hot shit room drop. Hello.! Next part of the procedure. Hey, hey. Darken your mind. Searching for the inner reaches. Let's see what we can find. To watch your brain cells grow. Honestly. How about this? How about this? You want to know? Wanna see? How men have been talking? Your size. Let's go get a hold. Whoa. Watch it again. Watch it again. Watch it again. Whoa. Watch it again. Watch it again. Watch it again. Watch it again. Watch it again. Watch it again. Watch it again. Watch it again. Watch it again. Watch it again. Watch it again. And we're breathing and dancing Don't break in Just let me ride Don't make me Get it hotter and hotter You can't see the beat at any time Whoa What if I can't What if I can't Whoa What if I can't What if I can't What if I can't You think I'm fine But we know if it's true You've got a lot to learn But that is up to you If you really want to know Then we might let you Look out To understand the answer You've got to try You've got to Take a step Take a step Take a step You've got to read my books. So you read my fucking books now. Let's go. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Meet Chris Parker. Getting ready for the greatest night of her life. I got to cancel. Yeah, just let it play out. Babysitting the Anderson kids. Sarah. Mom got Chris to babysit for me. Oh, Chris. Her brother Brad. Oh, my. His best friend Daryl. Who is this kid? Stray dog. Take good care of my baby. Baby. I'll guard her with my life. What could possibly go wrong? Chris, I'm in trouble. Hang up and sit down. I'll be there in half an hour. This is the night when things go from bad... My mom's car! ...to worse. Big city. Scumsucker. Too ridiculous. Want to go to bed? Take a nap. Problems? No, not really. If they weren't having such a good time. Adventures in babysitting. You think your parents will ever ask me to babysit again? If they do, I'd ask them for a buck more an hour. Yeah! Check it! Alright, alright, alright, alright. Welcome back to the More Music Radio Pod. We are here with our guest, actor Keith Coogan. Alright. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah, we heard a trailer from a very popular movie in the 80s, man. I think, what, that came out in 1987? It came out in 1987. Right, man. The summer of 87. Right, man. And we have a caller. Holy shit. We're just going to jump into calls right now. Hello, caller. You are on the air with our guest actor, Keith Coogan. Hello. He's not a guest actor. He's our guest, and he's an actor. I have special guest star billing for this episode. He's like a Swiss Army Knight. Don't you dare call me a guest star. You were a guest co-producer a little while ago. Oh, sure, right. I had no idea what you guys were doing with that software. Hello. Hi. Okay, bring it, caller. Just kidding. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Hello? Hello. Hi, I'm Stephanie. Hi, how's it going? I'm sorry, what? How's it going? I'm fine. How are you doing? Awesome. Thanks for calling in. I've been your fan for like over 20 years, and I'd like to ask you, what was it like working with Elizabeth Shue, and if you have any plans to work with her again? Hey, lady, don't be trying to steal my questions. You know, what are you doing? Calling up, stealing the questions. Good question, though. Thank you. To the casting directors of CSI, now that you have Elizabeth Shue on the show, you better be bringing some Coogan onto that thing. Yeah. You know, come on. Billy Peterson, throw me a bone. Come on. They should call that thing Coogan Scene Investigation. Elizabeth Shue is one. And, of course, Christina Applegate as well. These are two women that are amazing, absolutely beautiful, and both had the very tough job of carrying a multi-million dollar studio picture. Imagine that kind of a pressure. And absolutely rose to the occasion, carried the pictures, charmed the nation. Right. And, you know, so Elizabeth Lisa is absolutely wonderful. I had a huge crush on her. Ah. Had, you know, as a method actor, I asked her out, took her out to dinner, and asked her out at the beginning of the movie, you know, we've been working for a while together, and, you know, we have a romantic interest. She laughed in my face. I threw her head back and cackled. And that pain I took with me all the way through the picture. And you used it. I used it. In your art. Yes. Yes. Thank you for your question. Stephanie, thanks for being a fan for so long. That's crazy. Oh, no problem here. I love your work. You're just the best. Oh, thank you so much. What's your favorite movie that Keith Coogan's in? Oh, definitely Adventures in Babysitting. Yeah, that one's really cool. But did you like Toy Soldiers when he was in his butt-huggers? Remember that scene where you guys were hanging out and the thing, and you guys are all wrestling and stuff, and your friend gets mad at you because you call him a... There was no homo or rattle. There was no robotic overtones in any of those scenes. Now, the idea that we're in the middle of shooting the picture, and we didn't see the forest for the trees at the time, and our reasoning was, instead of two kids to a room, it's like six kids to a room. Right. And so it's hot, and we're going to be hanging around. You know, it's all guys. Cool. There's no chicks or anything. We're dudes. We can just hang out. So we're hanging around, wrestling each other. Yeah, that's what me and Dan and Patrick do from the Mormons. We like to just hang out with our shirt off and stuff. Oh, and watch WWE at the same time. Right. Right. Well, the classic, where there was more oil, I think, in the classic. Well, cool. Caller, is there any other questions you want to ask Keith? I just have to ask him one more question, then I'll let him go. I just wanted to ask you, have you ever been here to my hometown, Albuquerque? And if you haven't, if you plan on coming here? I have not. You haven't? No, I have never been to Albuquerque, and that depresses me greatly, because I know it's beautiful. I do want to come. We should do a revival house in Albuquerque and show a print of some old fun movies. Yeah, you want to set that in color? I'll come out, I'll do Q&A, spearhead that. Let's get me out to Albuquerque and do an appearance. Right. Just come up with the $5,000, $5,000 performance fee, and... There's a writer, it's like eight pages, no big deal. It's only like maybe $10,000 or something. All white food is really important. And I need a live tiger. Which will be sacrificed. But other than that, really no really weird requests. No, I'd love to come out to Albuquerque, that sounds great. Cool, well, we'll be there. Can I go? Is that okay? We're going to just take a road trip, and we're going to go down there. Okay. Well, I hope you do. And thank you for answering my question. Oh, absolutely. Thanks for calling in. Hey, thank you for calling the More Music Radio pod and talking to Keith Coogan. All right. Thanks, Stephanie. Take care. Bye. Bye-bye. You too. Goodbye. Thanks for calling. Now, get out of here. Let me get on with this interview. We like to show our appreciation. Well, Coogan... Yeah, so for people... So she's stealing your thunder? Yeah, she's like asking all your questions. One of the questions, I'm like, oh man, how I... Because I wanted to know how it was working with Elizabeth Shue, you know? And, you know, before we go on, I want to ask you a question. You know, before we go on, I want to make it clear, because I'm like notorious for this, like I'll see like actors, you know, like in public and I want to go and talk to them, but I don't remember their name. Oh. You know? And I recognize their face. It's that guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're that one dude that... What's your name? Now, this happened two weeks ago down at my corner store. Right. And I see... I see... I go, oh my God, is that Eddie Izzard? I'm like, yes, it is. And I brought it... And I walk up to him and I go, sir, I just want you to know the riches was brilliant. Of course, you have an amazing body of work before, after, but I am a huge fan. Thank you. Goodbye. Boom. And I ran off. Oh, cool. But I was like very, very... Was it him? Oh, absolutely. Oh, okay. And it's funny to run into... I was in New York recently and we're walking on the street and we see Brooke Shields standing in the door of a shop and we're like, oh my God, it's Brooke Shields. That's so cool. And later we're doing the ride through the park, you know? And our driver, our rider, or driver of horse, what do you call that guy? Buggy operator. He's like, oh yeah, and famous people here. And I go, oh, we saw Brooke Shields. And he goes, oh, everybody sees Brooke Shields. Yeah, no kidding. Even I have a... I almost hit Kevin Nealon and Brooke Shields with my car. Like at the same time, that would have been a dual celebrity. Wait, they weren't together for any reason, were they? I think they were at like a tall convention. Yes. They just happened to walk out. There's a short Hollywood and there's a tall Hollywood. And it's the reason why you will never see certain of your favorite actors ever work together. Because no one needs to know how short somebody really is or how tall someone really is. Don't they make them like stand on a box or something? Oh, absolutely. Especially the love interest thing. But usually, and that'll be in, you'll be in for something and you'll be up with another girl who's your height. For me, it's pretty short. I'm in short Hollywood. I'm just going to admit it. But I'm ripped. Look at these abs. So you'll also be up against another couple. You can start with Tom Cruise. It'll be down to the wire with producers. You'll be with another couple. And they're like six two, both of them. So you can't, if they like her, but they like you, but they liked the tall girl, they're like, go with the tall girl and they'll go with the tall guy. Ah. So it's a real, it's something to get. It's totally height casting. I think that there's a complete separation of those worlds. And you are like six foot five, right? Oh, totally. For people that can't see through the radio. I'm not even as tall as what it says online. line or what the driver's license or my resume says and i'm wearing lifts right now no actually they're motorcycle boots but they give me a good inch i'm five seven but i can play five i can play six five oh yeah i wish for five seven on a good day so for the people that are like me who don't necessarily remember names even i'll like know people at work and i'll just say hey what's going on there's jordan porch now or there's oh my god okay name our bass player quick hey there's john palito you know it's just like who's that you know but is it is it drew or is it uh was it uh oh god to date john or uh no drew or what who is your bass player jimmy jimmy thank you oh yeah i was testing vince because i wasn't sure if we could do it didn't you guys you did you try to do some research because no i didn't do anything exactly when i looked at that i went that doesn't match what it said on the other page yeah i don't know what's going on well our band has like a history you play like four instruments too we i i am capable of playing a bunch of instruments uh we've actually had 18 members in our band listening audience do you see how keith coogan has now turned the tables and is asking questions of his hosts yeah so what do you want to know keith how uh is it uh is it tough in the music industry you guys have been at it since uh 98 right i'm very impressed it hasn't been tough enough because we haven't quit yeah we have been pretty tough yeah we've been around it's wrong been around for 13 years we've had 18 members in the band and um that's more than the dickies my god we're getting up there we're getting up there we got bait like spinal tap is like like we got the bass player that should have been like the drummer for spinal tap except like nobody in our in our band blows up though you know they're still around on vomit yeah we don't know whose vomit it was no matter how much you wish we all do get the same uh cold sores though oh crew lip don't worry we changed that mic sock like two years ago so you'll be fine this i oh man why did you guys kiss me when i came in now it all makes sense because we like you man it's like adventures in babysitting you know toy soldier we were also talking about uh you're you actually uh did a voice in the fox and the hound told 30 years ago yeah you were the young fox young todd yes i did my research too that's a new movie in my country we we like oh so uh i'm with house with some friends we're hanging out and uh one of uh the guys uh comes up and he goes hey uh just want you to know man i really love cheetah i saw cheetah like cheetah that was like rated g like literally a disney movie it was like buena vista entertainment was like disney uh-huh like you saw the cheetah where were you at when he was at a punk rock house just you know okay rock out whatever house yeah and he goes yeah i was in uh as in lockup and they had uh they were playing it to keep us calm because it's rated g and it shows like outside so he had seen cheetah they forced him to watch cheetah in jail i don't think i've ever seen cheetah yeah we i'm proud of cheetah it made uh triple its money uh it was up against lethal weapon and like batman really where was i it was a violent summer for movies i think it was like 88 or 89 oh okay and uh cheetah came out modestly and you know 700 theaters or so and uh movie cost uh three million to make and it made 10 million wow it was 10th at the box office it was really you know it was modestly promoted and uh so everyone was happy everyone made their money did you get a good cut off of that i got the idea i fulfilled my second picture of the three-picture deal for a touchdown they have disney signs you and at the time they were signing every richard tryfus bet mittler everyone two three-picture deal wow um elizabeth shoot a cocktail subsequently oh yeah uh adventure of babysitting so we all had uh and it's not oh great i get signed up for more pictures no it's extremely famous uh try to get anything. So we all had, and it's not, oh great, I get signed on for more pictures. No, it's if you do more pictures for us, we're locking you in because you may do an interim picture for another studio and blow up and you're going to come up and ask for bazillions on your second picture for us. So they contractually obligate you to, if you return to work, it's going to be a agreed amount reasonable amount. At their discretion, you will do three. I was right on that. Mike Fenton was casting the Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. And that's Disney as well. And I was close on both. Griff Moranis. Close on both. And Disney, I had a contract for X amount of dollars in billing and everything's already negotiated for your next picture. And there's a six month shoot or a five week shoot. And one of them you're supporting, one of them is your lead. Right. But like no matter what, they would pay you the same. Yeah. Because it's per picture. You're based here. X amount of dollars for your next picture. So I did the math. I said, okay, five weeks. I'll do the five weeks. Oh, cool. And it was great. So what was the other six month offer? The Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Oh, that's right. Okay. Yeah. Wow. And so who would you have played in that movie? The guy that had the crush on the girl. Same part. Yeah, you get those parts, right? Totally. Yeah, man. So yeah, obviously Adventures in Babysitting is your the movie that you're most known for. I think you played Brad or what was it in there? Yes. Brad Anderson. Yeah, man. I love that movie, man. It's really cool, man. But I mean, what people don't know is, I mean, you've been in a lot of stuff. You actually started acting at the age of two? Not officially. My grandfather was also an actor. Jackie Coogan. Right, right. And my great grandfather was in Vaudeville and introduced my grandfather on stage. Young chaplain spotted him, put him in the kid. Wow. Yeah. Grandfather lost his earnings to his parents. Right. Sued them. A the Coogan Act was created to protect minors earnings. Right, right. Recently, in the last several years, we've instituted the Coogan accounts, which is before there was a law or a regulation that said, oh, parents should put X amount of dollars, you know, 20% or something like that away. Right. For future earnings. Because California law was said minors money is the parents. Right. They could work on the farm or it's the parents money. And when he sued for millions and this is in like 1935, when millions were really millions. Yeah, yeah. They the judge at the beginning of trial said, you know what? The law is on the books. You're going to lose this. And as they pushed on and he got support from Wallace Berry, actually during the trial financially to pay for attorneys out of four million, he got one hundred and twenty-two. Twenty six thousand. There's a settlement. The public decried the verdict and the payout and wanted protection. So they came together, created the Coogan Act. And then and then. But there was no. What is the Coogan Act? The Coogan Act just says 20% or so will be put aside for when. That's like a mandatory thing, right? Yeah. So it's like put into a trust or something. It said it should be. But there was no mechanism for that. So you had your you had Gary Coleman. Yeah. Right. I was going to say. How did the Coogan Act not come through? Because the Coogan Act was an idea, but there was no physical intervention of the money. Right. So it's going into bank accounts and parents are spending it. There was a sorry, it's gone. So what was great was recently they've enacted the Coogan accounts and no producer can hire a child without cutting a 20% check to the Coogan account directly. And all the minor actors have to sign up for a Coogan account. And I think it's a really cool legacy I've had. Yeah. I had one of the recent Young Artist Awards ceremony, which celebrates young artists. My grandfather has one of the awards that's named after him for like outstanding contribution to youth. It's usually handed to a producer. Mm hmm. One of the a girl came up to me and she goes, I had just turned 18 and I got my Coogan account. She's like, oh, thanks to your grandfather for having to go through that. So that was really cool to actually read into somebody's. I know. Am I too old? Yeah. Gary Coleman trying to buy you to call it like the what you talking about? Willis? Yeah. Yeah. What you talking about? Coogan? Yeah. Jackie Coogan. For people that don't know, he played he's most famous for playing Uncle Fester right on the Addams Family. So you were around that when he was doing that? That was 60. Well, I mean, obviously, but I mean, you were around the whole I mean, Addams Family was probably, you know, played every day. Yeah. I mean, so I mean, even today, you know, everybody knows. My grandma had a thing box. One of the boxes. Oh, nice. I mean, you know, the FN shaped boxes. That's like a whole come out of the whole cut out of the bottom of it. Yeah. Who was it that played the hands of what there's a bit of trivia. The assistant director Lurch. Yeah. Everybody. Everybody had a hand in it. Awesome. That's what I heard. So acting runs in your family. Yes. You know, and you actually got started really early. Like you started. Oh, so it to my grandfather was on. This is your life. Okay. And we am. They ambushed him and did. This is your life. Yeah. And I have a mom who was just 17, 18 at the time. She brought me out in her arms. And so it's my television debut at two years old. And the funny thing is, if the clips on YouTube, by the way, you can go like this is your life and Jackie Coogan and watch the last clip of the like multi clips. But they bring on the rest of the family and they have the light over the cameras for which camera is live and a little red light turns on. Right. And so it's like, oh, my God, the camera is up. Right. So it too. I didn't know anything of this, but I saw the light. And so when they did the camera switch, you see me go, boom, look over there. So I was already finding my camera. Yeah. I was going to ask at two years old, like you, like, are you actually acting or are you just like on camera? You're a flesh product. But apparently, like you were like, you found the camera. You're like, I'm on it. Ready to go. Give me some dialogue shows about me. So like, what was what was your first role? That way? How did you get started? Your acting? Yeah. Started acting and it was as a stand in on a McDonald's commercial. Oh, cool. Denny Harris, who had directed a lot of McDonald's commercials in the 70s. He was the kid coming up to the counter and like looking at the food and be like, oh, really excited. I was a stand in. So I'm the kid that stands there for the lighting and then they're like, get off the set. And the real kid comes in. Right. So I mean, they're doing it and I'm kind of acting it out. And my mom was like, you know, use your eyes and like, do it. You know, perform. So I am. And the director is like, I think we want to use him. Like, let's yeah. You know what? Let's let's use this kid for the commercial. The mom of the other kid flipped out. Now you hired my son. You have to. Now you can't. And you can't do that. That's not fair. So he goes, I'm going to I'm going to bring you back in in the in the between time I was an extra for a coast soap commercial where the people were singing in the shower and like then getting in the bus drive. And you see my left shoulder in the actual commercial. So my first, you know, paid gig on camera was moving on. And then maybe they brought you back. It's like, no, he's actually played Michael Jordan in those McDonald's. Then he said, then I came back and I just got range commercials with Ronald. And then that turned into about 100 national commercials. Cool whip and Charmin. And I got to work with, you know, Henry Fonda for Viewman. Master viewer. Oh, yeah. You met. I did a mother's cookie commercial with Samantha from Bewitched, Elizabeth McGovern. And so I got to work with all these television personalities doing commercials and stuff that segwayed into guest appearances on shows like Chips, Love Boat, Fantasy Island, Eight is Enough, Mork & Mindy, Laverne & Shirley, Knight Rider, Silver Spoons, Growing. I did a lot of TV. And so what's going through your head when you're on all these shows? I mean, how old were you around that time? You're like, what, eight, nine, ten years old? Yep. Between like eight and 14 was a lot of TV work. What's going through your head is I'm not booking as much as this person. Oh, I wanted that job. And wow, already at that age, huh? Absolutely. And there's a little circle of kids all this age. Did you feel like how many family are you supporting? Oh, I've got like an uncle, too, as well as my mom and dad. And of course, the parents don't want to manage the kids. So the kids are all looking at each other and we're like, we're supporting all of our families. Yeah. We're professionals, young professionals, but we're kids. So it was weird. And so you have that very small click. And I think that's why you'll often see like dating going on between young artists and stuff like because nobody else is going to really understand. Well, like, did you feel like a lot of pressure? I mean, you're like the breadwinner for your family, right? I had bleeding ulcers at 12 years old. I had upper lower GIs and drank barium shakes so they could figure out what the heck's going on. And they're like, you're stressing out. Really? Yeah. I mean, because that's not common for like a little kid to be having. So like, what's the kind of stuff that would stress you out? Just don't get this part and we don't make a house payment. Wow. That's what stresses you out. So like, I mean, even though you're like, you come from like a, you know, pretty well known acting family. Sure. So still, like the money just wasn't there is still a struggle, huh? Jackie Coogan lost his money in the lawsuit. We didn't have the money that had come from that. So our family didn't have money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was able to get a home in Palm Springs and retired to Palm Springs in the early 80s. One of his last pictures was a zoetrope picture of the escape artist with Griffin O'Neill. And Jackie, it was marvelous. You've got to see the movies, marvelous. The escape artist is brilliant. He plays a magic shop owner and has a scene or two with the kids. It was one of his last pictures. So when you were that age, did you realize the... This interview has turned really heavy. So for all the people listening out there... So were you very sad? No, no. No, I wasn't sad because you got to write in Knight Rider. You got to write in Love Boat. Right. You got to go play with Tattoo on Fantasy Island. But meanwhile, you got to throw up blood. Well, then, yeah. But that was a short period and I learned how to chill out and relax and not worry about it. My grandfather passed in 84. I was 14. And I had a little lull there. I was focused on school and our family was changing its dynamics. And then... Adventures in Babysitting came along when I was 16. Wow, man. And that... And I changed my name. I'd originally started working under my birth name. Right. Keith Mitchell. And I'd done all the TV under that name. My mom didn't want me handed roles just because I was a Coogan. And also, there was people my grandfather had pissed off. So it was about half the time. They'd go, oh, we love your grandpa. They'd be like, oh, your grandpa. Yeah. How would he piss him off? Just because he was trying to get money? Or did he have like a reputation of being hard to work with? No, not at all. I think it was more about... It's a cult of personality. And some people can just rub people the wrong way. Certainly, I know they were blacklisted by Louis B. Mayer. My great-grandfather in negotiations had broken down with my grandfather. And Louis B. Mayer said, you... Both of you will never set foot on MGM as long as I'm alive. My great-grandfather finally got on the lot a week after Louis B. Mayer. And Louis B. Mayer died. So those kinds of retributions and blackmailing and blacklisting absolutely is true. And your mom was trying to protect you from that, right? Protect me a little bit and also earn it honestly. Like, let's build a name and build a thing. And then around 15, 16, the manager was like, let's go Keith Mitchell Coogan. So for one year, I did... Yeah, the Mayer family is no good. Yeah. Yeah, especially John Mayer. Oh, okay. He's wrecking stuff. John Mayer is not related to the Mayers. I don't know. I wouldn't know that. Mayer, okay. No, no, that's definitely him. He used to play the cat. Well, hey, guys. Let's... I'm sorry. Not to interrupt you. I just want to let everybody know that a new player entered the ring. There's Pat Jones. Oh, yeah. Everybody, Patrick Jones from the Mormons just showed up. All right. This is Pat Jones that's sitting next to you. Pat Jones. Mr. Coogan. All right. What was it like meeting the real Thor? Almighty Thor. God of thunder. Well, hey, you know what? Let's get into that. After we take a break. We can play these songs because I want to talk about what it was like, actually, you know, when things started really taking off with Adventures in Babysitting and all these other 80s movies that people know and love and... The golden era of film, by the way, the 80s. So, anyway, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back with Keith Coogan on the More Music Radio Pod. Hold up. Wait a minute. How? You got the right bit. Hold up. Hold the fuck up. The more music radio pod. Broadcast the internet from downtown Los Angeles on skid row. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. I've got an Easter dog barking at me When I sneak into your house Climb up the stairs to the practice room Where I can just pass out I take the cushions off the couch And I lay a blanket down I've got an Easter sleeping on the floor Cause I ain't got a bed anymore Sit down by the city door I'll wait for you to wake up So I can get right downtown I spent the afternoon walking around Passing applications out At grocery stores and restaurants At whiskey bars and guitar shops But nobody ever calls me back I was a little bit scared Waiting by the phone I was waiting in the basement of your house I was down there waiting by myself And down by the city door I'll wait for you to wake up So I can get right downtown Well you probably won't hear much from me When I finally get back on my feet And I don't need your help anymore And I won't need to sleep on your floor And I won't write songs anymore I'll just focus on my career Try to make thirty thousand a year And I'll just die with my time And time is for me Sit down by the city door I'll wait for you to wake up So I can get right downtown I'll wait for you to wake up I'll wait for you to wake up I'll wait for you to wake up I'm ready to go You know who I am Do you know who I am I'm the strongest man in the world Stronger than Rollins Stronger than Schwarzenegger Stronger than Schwarzman I'm the strongest man in the world. I'm the strongest man in the world. I'm the strongest man in the world. I'm the strongest man in the world. Let's do steroids Let's do steroids Let's do steroids Strongest man in the world Strongest man in the world Strongest man in the world Strongest man in the world Whatever happens to eating spinach? Um, hi, this is the Cool Skull. Um, please call into the More Music Radio pod at 1-800-893-9562. Please, please don't tell my mom I was here. Yeah, welcome back to the More Music Radio pod. We are here with our guest, Keith Coogan. My name is Keith Coogan. Yeah, from Adventures in Babysitting. Yeah. The kind of guy that you look at his face and you're like, that's the dude, you're that one dude, that one dude with that one girl. You're that guy in that movie. I'm a game. Sang the blues song and stuff. Hey, you're that one actor kid with the ulcers, aren't you? Yeah. Wow. All stressed out. I wonder how many other child actors had ulcers. You know what, man? From what you're telling me, I mean, I would imagine that it's kind of like a rough situation, you know? I mean, everybody knows that, you know, the life of a child actor is pretty rough, you know, because of that pressure, you know? I mean, like, what do you think happened to Chris Cross? Like, the Mac Daddy and the Daddy Mac? Mac Daddy. It wasn't that they couldn't write any more hits. It's the stress, man. And one of those kids got cancer or something, right? Hey, stress will do that shit to you, man. That's for real. His dreadlocks or his braids fell off. That's pretty messed up, man. So, yeah, man. Stress is not good for you. The life of a child actor, we were talking about it, man, and, like, we see, like, what happens when they're, you know, it's not always a good ending, you know what I mean? We were talking about Gary Coleman and... Heath Ledger. Heath Ledger. Brad Renfro. Right. Corey Haim. Corey Haim, yeah. River Phoenix. River Phoenix, yeah. What's up with that? Yeah, so did you ever get into anything like that? No, I was so fucking lucky. I never did coke. I never did heroin. I've had a pill when I've broken something, and I was like, that feels too good. Can't do that. We have a term for that, pill billy. Uh-huh. Because people psychologically, they convince themselves, oh, it's, you know, a doctor, and it's for my pain, and opiates are incredibly addictive. So if anyone's struggling with opiate addiction or Vicodin or OxyContin or anything like that, that is, that's your kick in heroin. Right. And that's, you know, obviously a pretty tough fight. You need a lot of support, and that's tough. I've seen too many people lost to specifically pills, and that really is upsetting. But you were around that, right? Like, you would see that happening? I was EVP-ing at a party on Sunset Boulevard, and it could be an underage, and you'd be peeing, and the guy next to you would be like, hey, you want some Coke? Uh-huh. No, that's okay, thanks. So, yeah, that was weird. Did you ever get tempted? And we have a caller. Yeah. Hello, caller. You are on the More Music Radio pod with our guest, Keith Coogan. We're talking about drugs and stuff. He never did them. He never did them? No. Nope. More for you. More for him. And I believe him. I can't say that. Oh, so are you doing drugs right now? No, no, no. Not now. Not now. Get down. Goddamn economy. I know. I know how it is. But I have a question. I have two questions. Well, what's your name first? Yeah, what's your name? My name is Jackie Two-Dat Jackson. Jackie, how are you? Two-Dat. My Facebook buddy, Jackie Two-Dat Jackson. Of course I know you. How are you? All right. Good to talk to you. Okay, yeah, you too. I have a question about your monologues of the day. Uh-oh, here it comes. Yeah. I love them. Thank you. Yeah. And you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You love your monologues? Stop doing them, huh? I took a little hiatus, yes. I acknowledge that. I see you got a good life going, a nice little sweet life going now. Up in New York last week. I was following you. Well, I went to the first same-sex marriage at the Waldorf Astoria last week in the history of the famous hotel. And it was a very celebrated wedding, a really great trip. And I hadn't been to New York since about the time I did Adventures in Babysitting. Uh-huh. Or Toy Soldiers. Last time was a press tour for Toy Soldiers. I think I was in New York. Hmm. So. The city is beautiful. New York is really, really exciting. And I have to make a confession. Okay. Los Angeles is for pussies. It is too. There's too much space. There's too much room. There's too much time. There's no pressure. It's la-la land. Right. You can get away with it here. You can go and float around and dream. New York, you're going to get eaten alive in two and a half seconds. Mm-hmm. That town will run you over. Very, very exciting. And it's very, very tough, I think, to scratch out, eke out an existence in New York. I think we can handle it. We're from Highland Park, so, you know. Oh, dude, I used to live in Lincoln Heights, so. Oh, yeah. There you go. I grew up there, yeah. Dude, I was up on Minnesota Avenue looking right over down in the territory. Oh, shit. And Friday night, pow, pow, pow. Yeah. And ghetto birds. Saturday night, pow, pow, pow, pow. Helicopters. When there's no- Sunday morning, the church flatbeds come out with the megaphones. Yeah. And they're getting everyone to come to church. Oh, Lincoln Heights was awesome. Yeah, man. And I grew up on Thomas. Right there by Gate Street Elementary School in Lincoln High School. And we're eating Junior Mints, which is one of my favorite movie theater snacks. So, thanks for that. Well, you know, I figured we were going to be hanging out with a movie star. We should probably have, like, movie snacks. Thanks to my stepdad, D. He turned me on to Junior Mints. So, thank you, D. So, Jackie, you were talking about the monologue day. And that's something where, Keith, you're doing, like, a monologue. Like, a- One of your favorite monologues a day, right? Yeah. Tell us about that. I started a year or two ago at a bolt. I was in the tub. Because all great ideas can come when you're in the bathtub. And I went, oh, you know what? I'll put- I'll do daily. I'll do- I'll read a thing. I'll do a play. I'll stick this finger right- Oh, wait. Never mind. That's what I do in the tub. Never mind. The soap is a little stingy. So, you got to watch out. You got to get the right kind of soap for that. So, I went, why don't I do- And, you know, this is fun. I hit up SAG. And I got signatory. I got signatory for SAG. Because, apparently, you can be yourself if you're signed with the union. You can turn a camera on yourself and be Keith Coogan. Wow. And just talk and do documentary. But as soon as you affect a character or a voice, you are under union. And you are performing. And so, I had to get signatory. And they gave a green light for the project. And then, I hit up authors, publishing houses. There is a great group on online works publishing. And he has a lot of independent plays I've been pulling from. Monologue books. And really, movies. Movie scripts. I would steal lyrics of songs or sing something or have an original or a joke. It became very hard. The material thinned out. Very hard to find stuff. Shakespeare. Whatever would come to me. And you sit down. You take a few hours. You learn it. Turn a camera on yourself and do the monologue. Are there any of your favorites that you know off the top of your head that you want to do right now? No, not off the top of my head. There were so many of them. I look forward to them every day. Do you want to do a request? Do you want to do a request? Monologue for Keith? I wouldn't know which number it was. First of all. Anyone that he would love to do. I want to know if he got a job out of any of those because of that. Of course. You know, absolutely. What happened was there were submissions for some projects. And the producers said, great. What's Keith doing now? Or what does he look like now? Or what's he on? A link is sent over. Ten links or something. Hundred. Look at any of these. And if it's a drama project, you send over drama stuff. It's a comedy project. Send over comedy links. So for different projects, you'd pick two or three monologues you really like. So instead of a clip tape or a reel, here's what I look like three days ago. Yeah. Here's me two weeks ago. Right. Or here's me yesterday. Uh huh. Is there. And for some projects, it was a request and you could do I could do it as part of my monologue project. Yet it's actually an audition. So some of those monologues in the Monologue A Day project are actually auditions for pieces, especially specifically the Iago. There's a speech from Iago. And I think Merchant of Venice. Is that right? And that was the audition for, you know, the car commercial with the Mayhem. Hi, I'm Mr. Mayhem. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Part of that audition was reading the same monologue that I had prepared the day before. Talk about weird synchronicity. And they handed me the same exact speech that I had just done the day before. Oh, cool. So you're like, I'm on it. I know this. And I did really. I thought I was so good. Second, I was the next choice. Oh, wow. No, I don't know. But well, thanks. Well, I'm going to pick it up soon. I promise everybody, I promise all my fans. I just need a little inspiration. I did kind of run out of material. I got a little over halfway through. My goal was three hundred and sixty five monologues, one for every day of the year. I'm at one ninety two. So hang in there. Be patient. And I will probably first monologue will be a confession that I had paused the project. We call it a hiatus. I just need to kind of re-gather my steam for it because it really was it became tedious. Yeah. It became really hard to do it. Yeah. Yeah. But I, you know, I learned so much. It was a learned how to learn text quickly. I learned my range was broader, broader and narrower than I had thought before. So really great project and the feedback. And thank you, Jackie. And thank you to all the fans that have commented and watched and shared it. Really, really appreciate it. The support. Great little community had built up around the clips. I have one fan who really wants me to eat a cheeseburger during one of my monologues. So I'm saving that up. And one day I will eat the cheeseburger online. You know, I watched some of those. And you can just do the the monologue from was it Pulp Fiction where he eats the other dude's burger? Oh, yeah. I'll just do that. Yeah. You know, that is a tasty beverage. Yeah. Do you mind if I have a drink of your beverage to wash this down? You know, I saw I was watching some of those monologues and I like the one where I'm thinking I don't know where it's from, but it's the one where you're like yelling at your stepdad and saying, I'm not going to let you beat me anymore. I love that. I can do that. I misread the play. It's an all black play. So apparently so I've now crossed race lines as well. Oh, cool. He's going to be in Tyler Perry's next film. Yeah. But I love that. I love that. And there is true rage in there. Yeah. That that's. Do you remember that one? Absolutely. No, I don't remember the text. That and I also did a bit from Titus Andronicus. I'm very proud. It's a black and white clip. It's got some weird lighting under my face. And I'm like, you know, talking about getting retribution. So the Titus Andronicus one, I'm also really proud of. I have to check that one out. You know, another thing, too, since we're talking about the stuff that you're doing more recently. Yeah. I love the short called Delia Delia. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love that. Got that with the Monologue A Day project. That is one of the projects where the producers watch the clips and went, yep, great. And we met up and we decided to do this. It was a four day shoot. It's a short project. It's I think 20 minutes or so. It's at 4K Fest dot com slash Delia Delia. There's a actual 4K print online and looks beautiful shot with a red one. You know, I actually had a little bit of trouble trying to look at it off of that website. I just went to Vimeo and I searched Delia. Perfect. Yeah. Vimeo. It'll play right up. It's embedded on the site through Vimeo. Yeah. That one is like it's about like you're like this loving husband. Yeah. Yeah. Loving husband who's just like getting the shit kicked out of him verbally. You know, and there is a intervening gentleman. I don't know anything with that. By his woman. Yeah. Intervening gentleman comes in and decides to fix our relationship. Point out the inequities involved. Yeah. And I say, you know what? You're kind of right. And let's kill the bitch. Yeah. It's a really fun project. And I'm really proud of Delia. I think it I would love all producers or directors, casting directors. Please check that out. That's where I'm at right now. A little bit of the old classic Keith Coogan. But a little bit more. There's a little bit of twisted weirdness in there. And I'm really attracted to dark roles. I'm really attracted to. Yeah. You know, I'm a bit of a fan of the dark roles. And I'm a fan of the dark roles. And I'm a fan of the dark roles. And I'm a fan of the dark roles. And I'm a fan of the dark roles. And I'm a fan of the dark roles. And I'm really attracted to the antagonists. Right. It's much more challenging. Right. It's also really hard to be the lead. It's really hard to be the protagonist. It's much easier to have a few scenes and steal them from who you're with. Right. And be the one that everyone is stealing from. Right. And you know, everybody loves a villain. You know. Everybody loves a villain. Everybody loves a villain. Especially from the art. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Especially when there's some kind of righteousness attached to that villain. You can buy into it. It's okay. Whatever you're doing, that is really fun. Beat your wife and shoot her and do all this stuff and torture and stuff. It's not right. But if you just only knew how much of a bitch this lady was. Like, man. I know there's people. I was watching. I'm like, yeah. I mean, I'm not trying to say anything bad about my lady right now. I mean, there's nothing like that. But I'm just saying, like, I mean. We'll kill the mics. Don't worry about it. So I asked the director, who's also married to Delia, the actress. And I said, and he wrote it. I said, anything in your relationship you want to tell me about? He goes, no, no, go ahead. Have fun with the picture. But I feel that really on a very, very small level, that nugget can exist in a lot of relationships. And there could be animosity like that. And so you take that and amplify that by about a thousand. And you can kill a bitch. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was really fun. And I don't mean that as misogynistic. I was raised by basically a single mom. But I had a great stepdad, Dee, who turned me on to Junior Men's. That was your drug back then. Yeah, no. And I'm really. I don't go from the Junior Men's. I'm very turned off by, you know, films that abuse women. Right. But I love me some hostile. Because they torture guys and girls, usually. Let's be honest. Yeah. I love me some good. How about Misery? That was another torture where the woman was abusing the man. Yeah. Yeah, that was good. Yeah, but he got his in the end, right? I'm your number one fan. Yeah. Well, thanks for the question, Jackie. Thanks for bringing up the Monologue of the Day project. I appreciate it. Oh, you're great. Thank you for talking. And if you ever hit New Orleans, look me up. Oh, I love. I'll still tell y'all a good time. I love New Orleans. Yeah, thanks a lot for finding us, Jackie, and following Keith. Yeah. Oh, no problem with that one. Absolutely. Hey, do you see a lot of film production there in New Orleans? Oh, boy, is there. I do a lot of extra work just for fun. We're Hollywood South down here. We've got 19 movies filming in New Orleans right now. Big, big motion pictures. 19 movies filming in New Orleans. That's amazing. There's like three filming in L.A. You guys have taken all of our business. We have. Hey, Jackie, you're in New Orleans right now. And so how are things looking over there, like, ever since the levees broke, by the way? Well, the part where the levees broke is still not there anymore. Nobody came back. We lost probably about 250,000 people. That's a lot of people. Yeah, that's awful. They're still building it up. I hate to make jokes, but are they filming, like, The Walking Dead down there? It's kind of, yeah, it's kind of rough. So the Ninth Ward is still. We're tough people down here, so we get by. Good, good, good. Well, thanks for calling in. They do have really nice bushes to sleep in there. I've done that before. Lots of them, too. Yeah, we're a punk rock band, so we kind of, you know, shit happens. Actually, our band went on tour in 2005, and we were actually there. We were there, like, a month almost to the day that the levees broke, and it was, like, raining. It was storming. It was, like, kind of crazy, and, like, I looked outside our van window, and the water had risen up to, like, pass halfway up the tire, and I was, like, thinking, I'm like, holy shit, like, what would happen if those fucking levees broke, you know? And when we came back from tour, we'd been back for a little while, and somebody said, hey, did you hear about New Orleans? I'm like, oh, yeah, I heard about it. It's cool. They're like, no, it's gone. It's gone. I was here for it. I never left. Holy shit. That must have been some crazy shit. They put a dam up about a half a block from my house where the water got up to 10 feet. Wow. Did you lose anybody? But anyway, y'all get back to keep. All right, yeah. Thanks, Jackie. We're getting into some more heavy shit. Thanks for calling in. Thanks for calling, Jackie. Thanks for staying up late over in New Orleans. Yeah, you take care. Look me up when you show up. Awesome. Okay, bye. Later, Jackie. Good night. Jackie Tudet from New Orleans. New Orleans. New Orleans. Yep. Thanks, Jackie. Okay, bye. All right, man. Yeah, I'm glad she called in, man. I wanted to talk about that. Everybody's stealing my questions, man. No more calls. Just kidding. Please put the calls through. So, yeah. 800-893-9562. We were talking about... That number again. 800-893-9562. Hey, look, a professional. Call up and talk to Keith Dugan. If you know the name of the former child star you'd like to talk to, press 1. Do you want to talk to the child star that did not do drugs? Press 2. I was just thinking about... We're talking about child stars and Michael Jackson died. I mean, I know that was a while ago. Yeah. But, you know, you guys were going on a rant. Yeah, yeah. About something, but... It's a rough thing, you know, and I'm sure you've lost a lot of friends. Do you think that had a lot to do with it? Brad Renfro. Yeah. Right. Corey Haim. Yeah. So these were like a lot of your close... And like, do you have a lot of close friends when you're working like that? Or are you just kind of like a lone wolf? As long as the call sheet says they're your friend, they're your friend. But you really do lose touch after projects. And you could say, oh, we're going to be best buds. This was great. We're family. That's a wrap. See ya. Yeah. And that happened, you know, since I was a child. So I didn't... I really had no... It's almost like... There's no exceptions that it's really going to happen at the end of movies. But sometimes you do meet people like Anthony Rapp. Sometimes you do meet people that... And we have another caller. Yeah. Wow. This guy is pretty popular. Yeah, I know. Hello, caller. You are on... I just got a little woody when you said that. You are on... It's a big woody. I can see it popping out. You are on the air with actor Keith Coogan. Hi, Keith. My name's Mike. Hello, Mike. Hi, Mike. Hello, Mike. I have a question for you. I have actually two. First one is, what's your view on the remake of Adventures in Babysitting opening with Jonah Hill next week? Oh, yeah. That's right. They remade it. And the second... The second is, I remember you telling me a story about some guy in prison who came out, was very excited about meeting you. And that movie, I thought you might want to mention on the air about that story you mentioned about him. Very moved about one of your performances in one of the movies. You wouldn't be that guy, Mike, would you? No, that's Real Deal. No, no. That was Real Deal. Hey, man. It's a tough world. People do time all the time. We're not judging you. No, Real Deal was a convict that had... But they'd shown him Cheetah in jail. And so he said, hey, man, I saw your movie Cheetah. It was just... It's an obscure movie of mine. And it did make $10 million and cost $3 million. But it was not... You know, Batman was making $100 million that week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. But that was kind of weird. It was just a really strange kind of experience. And he's a really good friend. And L.A. is the kind of place where you run into people. You'll be at a signal, a stoplight, and they'll walk right in front of your car. Yeah. And Hollywood is a really small town. So we've been friends for many, many years. And it was just really cool. When I first met him, he had to kind of confess that, that he liked Cheetah. And what was the first question again? About the adventures in babysitting. What do you think about the babysitting remake? What do you think about that? It's not a remake. It is a movie called The Sitter. It is a movie without Keith Coogan. So it obviously is not of the official pantheon of... It's obviously not as good. And also, in the original movie, our hero, our heroine, was doing a good deed by going down to rescue her friend who was stranded. In this movie, the protagonist is out to get a blowjob and find some cocaine. Okay. It's like updating. Absolutely unacceptable. Yeah. It's not the same. That's not a Disney movie. And that's not a motivation for a hero or protagonist for an arc. It is ripping us off ridiculously. I see this pool table scene that looks like our bar scene. But our bar scene was shot in the same place they shot The Color of Money, which was a pool hall. I'm seeing weird stuff with race. And I'm seeing weird stuff with the youngest girl being really bold against all these people. I'm like, well, Maya Bruton was really bold as Sarah in ours. So it's a rip. But it's also a new, totally new era. And with films like Superbad and more films where the kids are cussing, they're aware of the drug use and sexuality that we denied existed in the 80s and 90s. Meanwhile, besides you, we're involved in it. It's another take on it, but totally not a remake. I'm absolutely pissed they didn't call. How dare they make a movie with babysitting anywhere near the title and not put Keith Coogan in it. So I'm pissed right there. But no, I'll probably see it just to see how close or similar. And also, don't forget Adventure. Babysitting was a pretty big rip off of Ferris Bueller's Day Off. We have these kids running around town in a very short kind of real time sequence. You know, it all takes place in one day or one night. We go to a French restaurant scene. We have a musical sequence. Remember he sang in the parade? Yeah, yeah, yeah. French restaurant scene. So there's some similarities. I mean, but that was like a good formula back then, you know? Yeah. And there's a formula of where you start at the home and the whole adventure goes through the day and returns back to the home. And so. But every new location is a new location, a new plot beat moving on. It's not really sedentary. It's an adventure. Yeah. There was a bit of Goonies is a great example. Oh, man. Love Goonies, man. Written by Chris Columbus. Chris Columbus, yeah. Who directed Adventures of Babysitting. Also discovered America. He did. His father had a great sense of humor. Yeah. You know, the plot line that you're telling me about this new movie, The Sitter, doesn't necessarily sound like a, doesn't really sound like a Chris Columbus movie. You know what I mean? Who is this? You know what I mean? Who's the star of that film? Fat Jonah Hill. What? Wasn't he skinny in his last movie? Not skinny Jonah Hill, but fat Jonah Hill. If you want to see skinny Jonah Hill, you have to watch the ad for MW3. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. Yeah. You know what? And this is why I'm going to remain fat is because like when really fat people. He's filling Jonah Hill's void. It's like you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Because when really fat people lose a lot of weight, they look weird. Yeah. And their head remains the same size. Yeah, I was thinking that dude needs to hit the weights like six. Super hard, right? Because like if you're like that, fat, and then you lose all the weight. His head is still fat. You need to put the bulk in because it's like it's all weird. You got to do some head ups. Who's the other Jonah Hill? Oh, Seth Rogen. So I'm at voting. He lost a lot of weight too. I'm voting. So I finish voting and I walk out and I see Seth Rogen in the line to go vote. The Carl's Jr. line? No, wait, never mind. Line to go vote. But he was thin. And I was like, oh my God, that's wrong. Yeah. Oh, man. So that, yeah. So the new, we'll see. I'll give you my review. You should have the cheeseburger down the throat. Is the sitter out yet? I don't know. No, it's got plenty of posters though. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it came out already because it was skinny Jonah Hill. And I was like, I saw him. Or was it? It was fat Jonah Hill. And I saw skinny Jonah Hill. And what is it? The Brad Pitt one. Maybe they're just two of them. I think they're just two of them. For Moneyball. Yeah, yeah. We use a heavy set Jonah Hill, not fat. I hope if we ever get Jonah Hill on the show, he doesn't hear me saying that his head is still fat. And that he was fat. No, there's a secret in Hollywood. It's with a PH though. There's a secret in Hollywood. You need to have a bobble head to be a movie star. Really? Yeah. You have to have a really unbelievable, like how did that get through the cervix? Kind of a head. You have a really, of a large head and you have to have thin, waif-like, like run two times a day, see the trainer, do like Riku or whatever the hell that is. You know, you have to like be in touch. Yeah. It takes a lot of work. Be tanned, have the teeth bleached and the Botox and the facelift and the whole thing just to look acceptable. So big, big head or big penis, basically anything that threatens a vagina. Yeah. Well, no, it's a known, it's a known idiom that everybody in the movie business has an incredibly huge penis. No, I know. That's, that's just known. I know we cut, we cut, we cut a little bit out of the door so you could get in here. Yeah. Which reminds me, Keith, can you please put that back in? The cage? Put the tiger back in the cage. Just holding my pants up with it. Yeah. Toy Soldiers was a real problem because we made choices about our costumes. So one kid would say, Oh, I'm in boxers or the other one. I'm of this color. And I went, I'm tighty whiteys, totally. Just it was the character. He couldn't be anything but tighty whiteys. And I don't know if it was the heat of the actually shooting or the eroticism of being that close to Wil Wheaton in a physical kind of a way. But apparently in the movie, I've got this boner or something. And you can, you're like, Whoa, is that guy got a really big cock? What's the deal with that? And so everyone's, yeah, they do comment on hanging out in my. You're making Sonya blush right now. Yeah. How can I make her blush? Me too. Wow. I thought you were stronger than that. So Keith, you were telling us Adventures in Babysitting. That's the movie. That's the movie where shit started taking off. Oh, yeah. Shit started taking off. And so how did you get that role? Auditioned and pretty broad. The first auditions are pretty broad. You're seeing thousands of people. Right. Then I get the callbacks, then screen tests. You're like, Oh, this is getting really close. I ran away from home week before the callback and I fought with my mom over. But I ran away from home. Well, I put unleaded in the diesel, so she's going to kill me. That's going to be. Oh. $500. Already I have ulcers from not making house payments. So here I killed the car. I'm running away from home. I paid for that home. And I'm leaving. If you look at like 85, 86 in my IMDB, there's like silver spoons, not much else. So wasn't making a lot of money. Was your mom hard on you or something that she kind of freaked you out? She's my momager. She's got to keep me on track and make money. That's a really twisted like, I'm sorry, like I know it's. Don't be sorry. It's twisted. No, I know. It's like because you're like kind of like the head of the household, but you can't yell at your mom. Yeah. Like, like who the fuck buys a diesel? Are you kidding me? Why is that my fault? I don't even understand this. So I actually I took off and I ran away to like grandma's house in Palm Springs. It wasn't I was 16, so I was really running away from home. Oh, OK. And so about a week into it, my friends like, did you're on like TV? You're like on the radio. They're like looking for you like missing kid. So I called the kid from the McDonald's commercial is out on the run. If you see this kid and they showed you in the middle, they were like last seen on Silver Spoons. It was really embarrassing. So and that was the kind of my mom knew that would get to me and get me to call home and like come home. I totally did. Within like two hours of hearing from one of my uncle's friends, I was also staying with my uncle in Palm Springs. I was like, OK, I got to call. I got to stop this. I'm like, stop the frickin news reports on this. You're a bitch. I ran away from home and I got you for about a week. You need to come home. There's a second screen test for Adventures of Babysitting tomorrow. Oh, shit. So on the bus from Palm Springs back home. And where were you living at the time? Bus with my mom in Malibu. The house we bought in in Trank is in Malibu. Five bedroom house. Bought it in 1980. I was ten years old. We had to go to a judge for me to sign the deed. Oh, they're like, he's like, he's ten. They're like, no, no, he's putting money down. He's signing the deed. So we I do. I went straight from the bus station back from running away from home to a haircut to the studio for the screen test. Wow. And Chris Columbus pulls me aside. He goes, look, I'm fighting really hard for me. Disney's like, you know, interested in somebody else, maybe or whatever. They're not, you know, they're not gung ho about. Who were they interested in? I have no idea. I know some of the other kids that were up there. Jonathan Ward was a really strong contender. He was in the heat of the city with Christina Applegate, the hour cop procedural she was in before Married with Children. So Chris Columbus pulled me aside private, me and him alone. He goes, what happened? I heard you ran away from home. What's going on? I was like, my mom had coached me. She goes, just tell me. You were really scared. You might get it. But it was true. I was freaked out. I was like, this could be, this is what I've been working for since I was five years old. And since eight, I really want to do movies. I'd seen The Kid with my grandfather. I was like, I think I want to try that thing. But back in the day, you were TV or you were movies. Bruce Willis, Moonlighting was like right then. No one had proven Ted Danson hadn't done a film career yet. Whatever you couldn't, he hadn't proven you could do both. So I was trying to make the transition. And there's TV acting, there's film acting. So I said, I was, I broke out and I fought with my mom and ran away from home, but I'm here and let's, I do, I really want it. And he really coached me and helped me and everybody read, well, me and Anthony Rapp read for each other's part. So I'm reading Daryl, he's reading Brad. Imagine that everybody. And we're doing subway scenes, we're doing this and that. And there's a... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Everybody thinks that I'm famous, I try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try name yeah she spells elizabeth elizabeth oh okay so she don't forget her name yeah okay uh so uh and there was a and the so i took a computer i had a laptop a little apple 2c took to the auditions to their screen test and my goal was to distract all the other kids so they weren't working on their lines so i brought up like one on one it was like larry bird uh video game and i was like yeah play it play it play it meanwhile i'm off like going over my line so i totally distracted all the kids i boom bang the audition and and and got it out it was really hard fought for at least four or five rounds of auditioning to get there i would just think i'd like to circle back to the beginning of that interview like when you asked elizabeth shu out yeah like you know honestly i didn't really want you to be here because i wanted the other two i wanted phoebe kate's here right so like you're settling for you i'm settling for you you better hook up come on you think you're shooting me down but i'm actually shooting you down i because i just don't feel like going over there and like getting her number and all it's the whole thing you know so in that movie you weren't you weren't really acting too hard like you had a crush on this girl right that totally was it difficult for you to do to do that like especially the scene where uh the little thor girl what was her name in the movie uh sarah sarah yeah she was uh she was like pretty much like ratting you out while she's standing behind you right so were you embarrassed like doing stuff like that no i mean it's it's all it was really collaborative uh everybody was involved there was like two weeks rehearsal we really worked on the script uh improvised a lot uh and that was a script supervisor was part of it and like writing everything down um we a lot of the stuff with calvin levels who played joe gipp the car thief uh totally improvised this stuff you know a mall i think i'm dropping what do you think this is that boise idaho all him uh you know david simpkins who wrote the script and he's amazing freaky links warehouse 13. uh angel you know all the stuff that was written by joe gipp the car thief uh he's a great writer uh briscoe county junior uh so david simpkins had wrote adventures of babysitting uh and admittedly had said i was you know had watched ferris bueller's day off and i was like okay this is a great idea of like you know moving these kids around town through a bunch of different adventures and we had uh so many different versions of the script hanging off of bridges instead of buildings going to gridiron staining gridiron stadium dealing with the uh the bears uh all of that was like scratched and rewritten um and in uh rehearsals it was the all of us everyone involved helped make that movie uh really really fun and and uh we all kind of put our part and develop our characters and true ensemble piece so like were you like in school or you were just kind of like doing schooling on the set i had actually taken the california proficiency examination at 16 and uh can work as an adult it's not being emancipated you've actually fulfilled your school obligation okay and uh with that through screen actors guild you can be a minor but you can work adult hours uh and at that time the twilight zone had just happened and uh uh the deaths that happened on the set of the twilight zone movie right and no kids were allowed to work past midnight so we had a canadian double little kid we had a canadian double for maya bruton that oh look there's thor mighty god of thunder eh so uh she totally did all the lines it was really really sweet and so anytime you see you're watching an adventure the baby's thing you should see the top of her thor helmet or the back of her or whatever that's her double wow that's it that's really interesting kind of insight you know like i mean i've seen that movie a bunch of times but like all that stuff like i mean that's really cool to to know and find out about you know so like when you were doing that movie uh did you realize that it was going to be a big movie or just like that's this is just a job you know i didn't realize it was gonna be a big movie until uh the weekend it opened and i opened the la times and it's a full two-page color uh ad go see avengers babysitting i was like oh this is this is big this is gonna be you know this is gonna be a good wide release uh and i think it cost about 12 million and made 36 million or so did well tripled yeah yeah yeah you know in fact one of my cousins up north when that movie came out uh one of my cousins up north in fresno actually was just like oh i love this movie you guys she had already seen it twice and she's like oh you're our guest i'm gonna take you to see this movie and she just had like the biggest crush on you and i'm like man yeah he's cool but i don't know i don't think of him that way because you know but um so anyway that movie turns out to be a big hit you know and so what what was it like like doors started opening up for you then right yeah i got booked on uh under the boardwalk which is my surf movie uh i've done my horror movie yeah who saw i didn't see that one oh my gosh that's crazy sunny bono wow yes i did it quick picture after that or hiding out uh i uh we're actually in uh so if we're in uh toronto shooting adventure babysitting i'm in anthony rapp's uh room uh we're you know talking about next day shoot or whatever and i see this script on his table uh called adult education i go what's that he's like oh it's this other movie but it's a lot like daryl it's too much i'm not gonna do it cool right back on the phone with the agent what the fuck's that uh you're talking about daryl the the uh the android yeah no not uh not quite human not daryl okay i'm sorry uh anthony rap in the vintage baby okay okay i call my agent what's this uh go in i read for it we had done a press tour through in the middle of shooting adventure babysitting they swung us through new york for some pre-press and uh while i was there i read for this movie it was actually hiding out they changed the title later when we did it oh okay uh and so hiding out was one of the that was a john crier movie where he was like uh he had witnessed maxwell hauser yeah it was maxwell house well house sir he was doing uh the movie that the movie is like he's like hiding out because he was like involved in the mafia and stuff you know yeah you know we should go uh let's play some music i'm a real big fan i've been talking we're having a really good time right now so you know what let's get back into that we still gotta we still got some to play so i'm just thinking we're just having too much fun right here you know i know i know we're we're bringing up the last the next load of songs but the last load we had uh manhattan murder mystery i just want to uh manhattan murder pussy cow i'll read the songs when we get back you know what because honestly i think we all got to take a big piss right now hey so we'll be back trying to work behind the scenes but he let it fly we'll be right back on the more music radio pod with keith coogan all right yeah i'll be right back all right i'm gonna go see this is this offensively the more music radio pod you totally love you you do do do you you do do do do do And all the bad things are new times here But I can't forget the past And all the bad things It's a new year in my life Here with my friends burning wood Time is to make my dreams These hopes were very small For nothing in the world I change this Although the process has been slow Those who did not expect this, I'm sorry And the day is coming New style with new mode Pay attention, this is not all I am a relative of the recodo And I make a ball in the streets This is for all my people I come to your town suddenly Centric, cynical, the new manager Do that, let the eyebrows be chented There are new times here But I can't forget the past And all the bad things And all the bad things Are new times here But I can't forget the past And all the bad things You have to make a trip to the past When Hip Hop was controlled By the whole brown race Saying that my race can't be ashamed Finally we have a new market Give me the money if I fall This is my life year after year All the bad things, nothing strange here I promise to be excellent The coffee pot here for the people World revolution suddenly More poisonous than a snake Centric, cynical, the coffee pot Bringing talent, that's how it should be Nothing of envious, how do you see it? Time passes us like a thread There are new times here But I can't forget the past And all the bad things There are new times here But I can't forget the past And all the bad things We have eight years in this Now, let's not make excuses Life is full of reflections What would I look at? Or in the mirror? I say myself We have to go up To live a good life I never want to suffer anymore Let bad times make me laugh There is no time to think about it I'm just liquidating and going on tour I never ignore the advice And take it with me so I don't become an asshole Let's get ahead With illuminating sacrifice Telling stories from before This life is the most exciting There are new times here One more time There are new times here But I can't forget the past No? There are two times here And all the bad things There are new times here But I can't forget the past And all the bad things And I try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try to try I still remember this little girl The dark eyes were staring at the big world Ran off to find some American dream Trade tickets in one hand in a new blue jeep Evangeline is on the run Just barely standing where she left off Don't know where she is or where she's going She is the queen of big believer family She went out dancing on Saturday night Six dark and lean high heels Blue line all around On Monday morning She's on the run Headline by the nightstand Find her in the dark And telephone Evangeline is on the run Just barely standing where she left off Don't know where she is or where she's going She is the queen of big believer family She is the queen of big believer family She is the queen of big believer family She is the queen of big believer family Hi, this is James Qual And you are listening to the More Music Radio Pod On skidrow.la Hey, alright Yeah, we're back on the More Music Radio Pod And we're back on the More Music Radio Pod And we're waiting to get settled in here And yeah, yeah, a couple of songs ago We were playing Manhattan Murder Mystery With Stadium Way And Manhattan Murder Mystery is Yeah, yeah Shit, we are bumping the shit out of this music right now I want to tell you about that Manhattan Murder Mystery song, man That's actually a leak That's on their new EP, man That song is called Stadium Way Is that from the song? From the women's old Crenshaw house Yeah, that's right, man And hey, I know shit too We're actually playing with Manhattan Murder Mystery At the Satellite on December 12th Monday, December 12th With the Monolators and Seasons And Keith, you're invited, man Awesome, I'll be there You're on the list Yeah You know, we just recently played a show At the Redwood Bar Which we always tell people to frequent Anytime you're in downtown Los Angeles But anyway, you know Regardless of whether Plug away It's extra fun But yeah, this past Yeah, see, Keith, we can do some stuff too, man Yeah, yeah No kidding If you haven't been in Adventures in Babysitting Or Rub it in Don't tell mom the babysitter's dead Go ahead Or we haven't been in Toy Soldiers, you know I know times are hard in America But we got jobs But we are in a band That where we wear costumes We're grown men and we wear costumes We dress up as Mormons You guys rock Thanks, man Yeah, we're shameless too The Redwood Bar show was interesting It was the night that they kicked everybody out of City Hall Yeah, yeah, it was Oh, yeah, man Yeah, over there at the Redwood It's on 2nd and Hill And last night What night was it? What day is it right now? It was Tuesday On Tuesday night We were playing Yeah Some crazy shit, man I mean, the cops were out in force, man And actually One of our dudes in our scene Actually got arrested And like beaten up What? His name's Tyson And he does these really cool videos And photography and stuff And of course If you have a camera And you're a guy like that And you have fucking huge brass balls You're like, fuck it I gotta get in there And I gotta document this thing, you know So he ended up getting in there And there's actual footage of him That CBS keeps taking down for some reason Of him being like beaten down You know, they forced him to the ground I guess it didn't look so bad But I mean, that's happened to me before You know, and it's not really nice to get Like slammed right on your face, you know And he's still in the jail, too It was like It was like 300 people that were arrested And it's like $5,000 bail They're really fucking him, too They're doing this thing Where they're just like Okay, fine, you know what? Instead of just jailing you and releasing you We're gonna hold you for 48 hours They didn't want him to quickly reconvene together as a group Exactly They wanted to really shatter the movement Break it up What's great is they've occupied an idea And A physical piece of turf to do this That was great That's an amazing form of protest To use a tent And say that is my political speech So how could you ask them to remove that When that's their form of political speech And that's the thing In our constitution It's not what you're speaking about It's the fact that you're doing any political speech That can't be abrogated You cannot A city code Takes the Trump over the First Amendment of the Constitution A little confused I would just say I would just like to petition Antonio Villarosa When and where can I protest? Right Well, you know, see, the thing is That's a good point And I'm like kind of like I think you should lead the cause Because they don't have a leader And they're kind of stupid See, that's what I'm talking about, Dan Like, I'm like for the cause I'm like for the cause But the thing is And I think why it failed Is that there was no real leadership And I think that was supposed to be by design Because they didn't want, you know Because anarchy's cool, man They didn't want a specific leader You know, and I think that's why they didn't want a specific leader But at the same time, it's like I mean, there were people out there That really were there for the cause But a lot of people were actually just there To fucking act like assholes And get drunk And fucking party Any kind of protest, you know But see, that's the thing If you throw a party for 20 people You're going to get those two assholes That are going to cause trouble That are going to fuck up the whole fucking party That was not really prevalent And from the people that I knew I know, that's why they didn't show up They said it was magic They said, you don't understand How we're living down there You don't understand You want something, you turn, it's there You don't understand I just took a shit He's like, I'm running He was running the print shop One of my friends, Alex And he's running the print shop I go, you have a print shop? He goes, yeah, it's a tent We set up every morning at 5 a.m. And I run silk screens And I make t-shirts And I make signs And then I break it down at 10 o'clock So I don't think he was caught up in this He's also one of the bombers around town Right But they said they had a library They had a health clinic They had a legal office All with intents in that city Wow Food, he goes, more food He said the most beautiful, ripe, perfect tomato he'd had He said it was just abundant A lot of vegan stuff Pizzas, racks, boxes 20, 30 pizzas being sent down by other people around town Who couldn't make it down to the movement And without having a leader Great, because then you can't decapitate the movement Right It's still going It's totally incongruous It's asymmetrical And what's the point? We'll see how it pops up And in what form it pops up next It may not start any really good bands So somebody gets shot Like in Kent State That created Devo You know Let's see what happens Yeah, let's see what happens out of this thing You know, it's the earthquake, you know Because we don't have big enough towers to get people, you know But you know, the thing is Never mind Kent State Tower People are so, like, disenfranchised with the system, you know It's like, nobody knows how to actually make real change, you know It's like, you actually, actually have to take Part in the system and go out and vote And know who you're voting for And know who's getting paid by who But the thing is, is like This whole system is fucked Because, like, both sides are being paid by the same monster, you know It's just like When they say left wing And then they say right wing They're kind of calling it out That it's two limbs of the same animal Exactly, right So, like, what do you do in that system, you know? Like, and there was What was the difference between what happened in In, like, the first time you were in the system? Like, Egypt And then what happened in LA? Oh, the difference was We decried any attempt to squelch the free speech of those in Tahrir Square We said, how dare you block Twitter? How dare you stop them from speaking? How dare you bring troops in to bustle them around? Yet we accept it here on our own turf? Inconceivable Right I don't know I don't know They're kind of like an off shade of brown They're not, like, the regular brown It's like slightly It's like olive brown So it's like Olive They're not They're kind of whitish brown, man That's not growth you can say You know why LA was one of the last cities to be broken up? Did you see some of the kids down there? Some hardcore rollers down there Yeah Yo, we're occupying Look out The cops are like, we don't want to mess with this crowd Are you kidding me? Yeah, but I mean, look at Oakland, man I mean, those people were pretty hard over there, too And you saw what happened over there I mean, it was pretty bad And see, that's the thing It's like, at the very least, it didn't It could have been a lot worse Maybe it should have been It could have been And maybe something would have, you know But it wasn't enough They spaced it out And if some really bad shit went down Then, yeah, maybe Oh, look, it's on video It's the way it always works, you know Right But see, they did a really good job at And I was reading something where they were saying They kind of, like, just waited for everybody's cell phones to die And they just kind of, like They were very, very smart about it Because, like, they didn't want to be caught on camera Beating protesters, you know Look at the LA Look at the LA Look at the LA Times headline It said Occupy LA, broken up Crowd dispersed You look under the definition of dispersed And that disbursement is money given to somebody Really? You disperse funds Right, right So, there's rumor that there was a negotiation For a large bulk of the crowd To get out there It thinned out Like, it was, like Was it thousands? Like, NoFX played? And everybody went home after that? Yeah That was like, okay, you know what? If you guys go home, NoFX NoFX isn't gonna come and play But they only I heard they only did, like, acoustic songs I'm like, ah, cheap You know? I don't know Maybe it would have been cool Maybe they should come to the More Music Radio pod We needed a song, man Just like in Wag the Dog You can't have a good movement Without a good song Yeah You know? You know, but, like, what Like, really, what is the difference? There's, like, a big difference in, like, the movement Like, when you look at, like, the civil rights movement To, like, this kind of movement right now It's just, like, so vague that nobody Everybody's like, yeah, we don't like it That the rich people have all the money Like, okay, well, what do you want to do about it? Was there But the thing is Take their money I don't know What do we do? We're going back to the 60s kind of thing When it was about If you're not more It was like a thing that's But there's still war going on It's just There's not a big difference Because nobody gets shot, you know? Right It's a little, you know It's a little more mellow, you know? I don't know if you guys know about 4chan Or have ever been on 4chan I can't I can't say that I have No, I'm sorry 4chan.org I'd really like to pretend that I know what you're talking about It's the bottom of the internet And a lot of anonymous are on there No, no, no Skid Row to LA Yes It's So I saw word of the Occupy movement They said September 17th We're going to Occupy Wall Street And it was a simple black and white poster The goal was that we're going to go there And we're going to stay there And we're going to see what happens That's what started it There was no goal There was no There was no There was no There was no message There was no demands There was no They go And it was pretty obvious Occupy Wall Street I mean, they got $7.77 billion of bailout money This is just recently reported last week We're talking about There was No, trillion $7.77 trillion We were upset about hundreds of billions being bailout To a lot of the big banks Or to a lot of the big houses of money But nobody knew how much was given to the banks And it was just revealed that And this is through a request of Freedom of Information request That it was $7.77 trillion given out to all the big banks To keep them solvent And they laid people off Yeah And they aren't lending money Yeah Where the heck did that money go? And you know, they charged me $33 for going over like Like $1.12 Just join your local credit union Well, I got my own revenge I just stopped paying the mortgage on my house Moved out It's like, oh, it's cool I don't give a fuck anymore I breed a bunch of pit bulls there Good luck with that Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, you know, and the LAPD They're like, it's like really weird They're like getting congratulated For like doing the right thing Because not meeting people That's what they used to do It's a fucking PR move Doesn't this sound kind of like You know, it's just like And then Antonio is like, you know Patting them on the back and stuff It's just total fucking PR move Because I know for a fact that there were people down there I mean, there's video of Tyson, you know Getting, you know, thrown down And like, that's like one of the The biggest things that I've ever seen in my life Is a few videos that are out there And that's why it keeps getting tucked Taken down They didn't want another MacArthur Park incident Right And that was talked about two days before The deadline The reporters are getting messed with And I was like, it's basically violence You know, that's what boils down to Any kind of protest, you know Otherwise it's kind of like, oh Nothing really bad happened, who cares, you know Yeah Well, I mean, what can you do anyway? I mean, we hope Tyson gets out And all the other protesters get out You know, not having to pay the bail I mean, and now they're saying Like, really high bail What's the bail if you're on 6th Street Right by the bus station What's the bail if you are sleeping on the streets And you're caught after 6am What's the bail for that And why isn't it the same exact bail As for everybody on Alkabar Wall Street They're giving them extra punishments Punitive Because of the nature of their protest Right It was against the establishment Right If it was just about the act of sleeping In a public space Then that penalty should have been appropriate But obviously this is above and beyond Probably an order of magnitude $5,000 for sleeping on the street It took over what was like all What is it, the local penitentiary And you better go scrape up Every single person in this town Especially the ones who aren't Sleeping on the street As a form of political protest Because that gives you a little extra edge The First Amendment protects political speech This form of political speech The Tents Is great, absolutely effective It got tons of press Everybody's talking about it Everybody knows the initials OWF What's the message? What do they want? Is it going to be over? You know, we don't know Probably not Your ideals are aligned perfectly With the origination of Skid Row.LA Yeah And seriously, no, no But seriously You know what, next time I think would be more effective Would be to Instead of going and occupying City Hall's lawn Is to go to your representative's house And occupy their lawn And sit in front of their house Because believe me They're going to do something about it The mayor's house The mayor's house The mayor's house Is right by the Masonic Temple On 6th and Lucerne That should be next Just so that everybody knows that Lucerne for Luciferian If you know where Country Club Park place 6th for the evil number of 6th Country Club Park 6th and Lucerne is right where the mayor's house is And he couldn't get that extra tall fence erected So you can still drive by and see Well, you know what Now I know who I'm going after the show on He actually moved next to Manny Pacquiao For a reason That dude will knock your ass out No, he actually does live over there Right now Wow, we're getting political Manny Pacquiao has a house I'm always afraid of like talking about politics Because in reality Fuck, I don't know What the fuck am I What the fuck do I know? You know, it's like I don't know shit But I don't know I'm always I'm always for the underdog And there's They're the one A lot more underdogs Than there are people who are winning Well, I know what you hear You know The 99% Do more research on it You know Beer helps Beer helps too I agree They're the 1% out there actually Taking physical action For the 99% Is what I like to say Right You know They're putting their bodies on the line And maybe there's a chance That they're not in school They're not Don't have jobs They don't have a home to go back to I should probably join them Because there's a pretty bad One out of nine homes in the country Are unoccupied They're in foreclosure One out of nine homes That's 14 million homes in the country That have nobody living in them And yet we have a huge homeless population No, honestly What I was telling you about Like how I stopped Like, because seriously It's like my house is worthless It's crazy, dude Like Like I lost 100 grand Like honestly Like I moved in It was 300 grand Now it's like 200 Yep Because it's like So I just like I moved out I rent a new place I'm like fuck you guys I'm out Yeah Hey, where's our bailout, man? You know I don't know Just do whatever you want Now they're doing the same thing They did with the Wait, no The same thing they did With the mortgages And the collateralized debt options Of really bad debt And they're selling this off As a good thing They're doing it again With student loans And this is why Occupy Washington Brought up student loans They've rolled Trillions of dollars Of student loan debt Right Into collateralized debt options People are betting Against those not being paid Exactly Yeah Now students are underwater With their With their school debt They're not gonna be able To make enough money With that degree To pay off the You know As a matter of fact China has made the move To stop anyone From teaching courses Or majors In jobs that aren't paying In the current economy So China is stopping Education In jobs that aren't hiring I don't know I think we should all Learn Chinese That's kind of smart I gotta be honest Well I mean Who's gonna Who's gonna Like join a philosophy Firm or something Well we have the SOPA The SOPA bill In the Senate Congress right now Where they want to be able To block IP addresses Right That's similar to China And the Great Firewall of China So our country Actually looks and models After China Especially in controlling Great We all have money Unwashed Population Right That is going to Buck them When there's not enough Why is that the first time I ever heard The Great Firewall That's a good one Oh no That's all over No I'm sure The Great Firewall of China I'll go ahead And give you credit But that's the first time I heard it Yeah Anyway Well You know what Let's take another break We still got some songs To play And Man we got into We're getting into Like serious topics here You know So in these next Couple songs We're just gonna pound The shit out of These guys And we'll make it Really light When we come back How about that Alright cool We'll be right back On the More Music Radio Pod With Keith Coogan Alright Alright Keith Here we go Ready to go You are listening To the More Music Radio From Skid Row Studio In downtown Los Angeles, California At skidrow.la Take care Outro Music Adro Music Adro Music Adro Music Adro Music Adro Music Adro Music Adro Music Adro Music Adro Music Adro Music Well, hello, this is Rick Dees, and you're listening to the More Music Radio Pod at skidroad.la. They're going all the way to number one. Welcome back to the More Music Radio Pod. We are here with Pete Coogan. All right, man. We're wrapping it up. Did you have fun, man? I had a blast. I was going to say blast, and you said it first, so it kind of killed it. No, I had a really good time. Many good stories. I think we're having a bromance right now. You know, I want to maybe see you again. It would be really good. You have many lands. I would like to add my lands to your lands. Man, you know what? It's like your land. I mean, we've been talking for like almost two hours now, and I feel like I haven't even really like hit everything that I want to ask you, man. I mean, it's like I wish we could be here for another four more hours. You guys down? Okay. Fuck it, let's do it. Yeah, feel free. I think we got the keys, so you can stay here for another four hours. I think I need to call my agent. Well, cool, man. Hey, you know what? Thank you very much for coming and talking to us on our show. We really appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Very fun time. Can you hear Sheetz tear that shit up right there? All right. Yeah, man. That was cool. So what did we find out today? We found out that Keith Coogan has a very recognizable face. And not, you know. Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. He has a recognizable name as like, I don't know, call out a name, Dan. But. Not as recognizable as, say, Antonio Villaraigosa. Right. Or Adrian Zamed. Or Antonio Vanderoz. His last name is actually a mixture of his last name and his ex-wife's last name. That's right. That's right. I don't know why, but that just is like so weird to me. Salma Hayek. Well, don't forget the city of LA's flag still has the yellow castle, the Castile from the original. The original Spanish land grant. So we still honor the original. Alvera Street. Yes. Tearing up Alvera Street. You guys see that video where Salma Hayek breastfeeds, excuse me. We're getting a little fucked up here. You see that video where Salma Hayek breastfeeds an African baby? It's very sweet. I've heard about that. I need to see that. No. It sounds very nurturing. Jesus, man. Well, she can't give that kid AIDS a waka waka. Can you transfer that back the other way? I don't know. I'll be scared, but she's a very loving person. She's quite the actress. What? What are you talking about? And she's a vampire. Hey, so Patrick, you got in here a little bit after we started. So, I mean, is there anything you want to ask Keith Coogan? Pots and pants. Pots and pants. Pots and pants. What is pots and pants? You know, when they give a kid a really shitty job. Pots and pants. Pots and pants. Pots and pants. You know, pots, pants. Scrap. Oh, pots and pants. Oh, pots and pants. Pots and pants. The dishes are done, man. Dishes are done, man. Yeah, you know what? And I think that might be, like, really close up there with the Adventures of Babysitting as far as, like, my favorite Keith Coogan movie. It's like one of those, as I staple on cable, it's like when you're, it's on, you never turn it off. You always watch it. That's when the cable box, you had to turn it off. You had to push these buttons. It goes, ka-clunk, ka-clunk, ka-clunk. Like, there's nothing on. Ka-clunk. You're like, oh, Toy Soldiers is on. I'll watch that shit. Sure. Of course. I'm like, hey, I like that asthma kid, man. It's a good one. It's a good one. No, Toy Soldiers is great. We were in the middle of shooting and we turn on the evening news and apparently there's a terrorist bomb scare or whatever at LAX. Oh, my God. This is, we watched. And they go, yes, apparently actors in a movie in Virginia. Toy Soldiers had brought film props back to LA. A grenade. An SAK. And they thought they were real. Oh, shit. And they saw a huge scare. So that was you guys? It was all over the news. Yeah. And I was like, did the producer plant that to get like advanced press on the movie or what? That's pretty masterful of you. Don't go and try to take fake weapons through LAX. Are you out of your mind? Come on. Yeah. Just take box cutters. They'll let you on. Not anymore. Oh. Oh. Oh. He went there. Too soon? He went there. Shit. What? 10 years? Nah, it's not too soon. It's not too soon. On Toy Soldiers, you worked with- You're lucky that wasn't four months ago, man. You worked with Sean Astin. Yes. Right? That's Gomez's kid. Yeah. Yeah. Old friend. And I knew Sean since we were both very, very young. It's because your families were close? Duh, duh, duh, duh. Totally. Totally. Uh-huh. So who were some of the- I know you said as far as friendships, you guys are friends until they said, okay, that's a wrap. That's a wrap. But are there any actors that you're close personal friends with that you stuck around with through all the years? Please say AC Slater. Please say AC Slater. Mario Lopez is- Boom! Very good at his job. Woo! I see him pretty much daily. Really? I run in the mornings and I'll make my way through the Grove. And he'll be taping- Access Hollywood. Access Hollywood. Who's there? And different guest stars will be on every day. I'll take pictures and put them up on my blog and have a really good fun with it. Because they shoot it right there in public. And it's really fun to kind of go up and razz them. And I know some of the crew. I'm like, hey, what's up? Come on. Don't pretend you don't know me. Come on. Really, really, really funny to go see. He's such a fucking pro, dude. And not like Chenbot. Julie Chen. Are you talking about with women? Because I heard some stories about that guy. No, just on air doing his job. This camera is on. I'm working. And memorizing names and release dates and studio and this. And coming up ahead, we're going to have this with that. I was really impressed. I need to work on that. And I need to take a class on being a host for a TV show. And he's gorgeous. Am I right? You're right, sir. Am I right, ladies? Yes. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. Those pants don't fill themselves up by themselves. I just realized. I just realized I'm in a room with like three guys. You know, like Mario Lopez, man. He's a ladies man. We keep Sonia here so we don't like totally weird ourselves out. He's a friend of yours. So, you know, like when he, I guess like he was like married some girl. And then on their honeymoon, he cheated with like another woman. And I think it might have been two or something. Were they in Hawaii? On his honeymoon, he just got married. No, it was me. I feel like I haven't died. We've tried to keep that buried, you know. So, he took the rap. He's like, hey, that'll. Just let me take that story. Yeah. Quite the ladies man, Mario Lopez. Keith Coogan's got range. He can play two women. So, Mario Lopez. At the same time. Also, like Corey Feldman. Sorry. Yeah. Corey's a very dear friend. Have you seen any of the sequels to that vampire flick? The one directed by Werner Horsog? I love Werner Horsog. I'm just kidding. I can't remember what he's called though. The vampire. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.