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I want to live a life of sin. I want to be like Chinchulun. La dee, la dee. Surrender to the force that lies within. I want to be like Chinchulun. La dee, la dee. You can run. That is so funny. Can I hear myself? Yes, okay. There you go. Welcome to Blame It on Ginger. I am Chinchulun with... Nina Hartley. And... Stevie. And Daisy Ducati. Welcome, Daisy Ducati. Where can we find you online, Ms. Ducati? Well, at my website, daisyducati.com, on Twitter and Instagram, at Daisy Ducati. Nice. Wonderful. We just played with each other all morning long. We've just had three hours, four hours. You got there at 11. We've been together for four, five hours. Nice. We've been together for four, five hours. Oh, sweet. Playing and pussy licking. You did not. Do you not know me? You didn't. All the girls need to be fluffed in order to come in their panties. They need to be turned on. So in order to get them turned on, I will eat your pussy through your panties. I'm a mad fluffer, yes. So if her girly bits are as beautiful as the rest of her, I bet you hated everything. She has the most beautiful girly bits ever. Maybe if I'm very nice, I might be able to see them before she leaves today. Okay. Maybe if I'm very nice, she might show them to you before she leaves today. That would be awesome. Daisy, are you shy? No. I didn't think so. Nice. Isn't it fun to find a way to make a living where shyness is, you don't have to pretend to be shy? Oh, yeah. This is perfect. Yay. Right on. You have that happy look of somebody who's... The first time I was on a movie, the first time I was in a strip club, I knew I liked it. But the first time on a porn set, I said, I'm home. Really? Yeah. Meaning being in an environment of relaxed sexuality, casual nudity and casual sexual contact as a given. So I'm not being out of line. I'm not being creepy or weird. You're not being self-deprecating. It's like, no, no, we're here because this is what it's about. And then if you want to build personal relationship on top of that, yay. Oh, that did not feel good. That was baby. Oh, the one you had surgery on three times? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so porn, I like to... Porn, air quotes from porn, the sex business because it forcibly detaches the obligation of always putting sex with emotion and leaves the choice to add emotion to the people involved moment to moment, which I prefer. See, my first time on a porn set, I was very... I wasn't comfortable at all when I had to pose for the first time. And the first thing I ever posed for was Penthouse. And I remember Suze Randall telling me to look sexy. And I didn't know what sexy meant. What? My faces are so exaggerated. She said, give me a little ah, and I'm like, ah. Right. My mouth is as far open as it can go. So it took me a while to warm up to posing. Oh, it took me years. It took me years to pose. Oh, it took me... It didn't take me that long, but it did until I got good at it. And now I've lost it again. I don't have that same gift that Daisy does. You know, when you're in front of the camera more often, I'm behind it now than in front of it. So I'm not as used to it. But when I get girls like Daisy, it makes it so comfortable and easy for me as a photographer. Oh, sure. But my first time on a porn set, my comfort level was a million fold when it came to sex. The first thing that we ever did was fuck. And I had a scene with one guy with Jerry Butler and five other girls. Oh, wow. So that was my first on-camera scene and I'm going... The world's most fuckable dick, because Jerry Butler would be in the realm of he'd be a mope or a cuckold now. Because gorgeous, beefy body, beautiful, big, you know, hockey playing chest and then completely average penis. So it made it actually great. It was painless to fuck him. It was fun. He was a good fuck. He was a good fuck and he was terribly funny and cute. Always funny. And he was very cute. I like... Yeah, he was a lot of fun. So my first scene was actually just a blast. It was... I had no trouble. The camera started to roll. I was, as you said, Nina, I was at home. I was just with five other women and a guy having sex on the island of Kauai in a hammock. Sorry, I forgot about the Hawaii aspect of it. Wow. But then the scene came after that where I had to do a little bit of a dance. Yeah. I had to do dialogue. And all I was supposed to do was run along this little path. And Jerry Butler is supposed to pull up alongside me on a motorcycle and yell, you know, catcalls. And I'm supposed to tell him to leave me alone. I couldn't say go away. I couldn't say stop. I couldn't get a word to come out. I'm running along and they've got the big boom mic. Right, yeah. And I'm supposed to... All I'm supposed to say is, you know, leave me alone, go away. Could not do it. Could not get the dialogue out. Stayed straight? The microphone scared me. I was totally fine with it. I had the dick in my mouth, eating pussy, going at it. So what Jerry did that night, which was my first lesson in dialogue on porn, is he invited me to his room. He said, I'm going to help you run dialogue later so that you know how to do it. And I said, fine. And we got there and I was all giggly and I was shy and I couldn't do the dialogue. And every time I had to talk, I got nervous. And he started asking me questions about my family, about my grandfather, my grandmother and who raised me and what my relationship was with them. And all of a sudden he grabs me and he throws me down on the bed and he's pulling my panties to the side and he's going at me. And this is not a consensual situation. So I'm fighting him back. This is, you know, I've just had sex with him, but this is, it doesn't matter. And he's coming on to me in a very aggressive, very forceful way. And I'm freaking out and I'm punching him. I'm clawing it. I'm going at it because I've already had a bad experience on the side as it was. So all of a sudden he stops and he throws a script at me and he goes, now you're going to run dialogue. And I'm going, you motherfucker. He's telling me what a piece of shit my grandfather was and just cutting down my face. And really being abusive. And he got me to the point where I was so raw, so physically, I didn't give a fuck about dialogue. So he threw the script at me and I just started saying dialogue back and forth. And that was his little lesson, how to teach dialogue. He had no intentions of doing anything that was out of line or getting, you know, it was just a way to get me out of my head. Sure, sure. And from then on, I had no trouble doing dialogue, but I found that the sex was always much easier for me on film than it was to do dialogue. What about you, Daisy? Do you find that sex is easier than dialogue? Or does it not matter to you? Actually, I am kind of the opposite. I had like 10 years of modeling and acting experience before I got into porn. So that's very helpful to you now. Yeah, the pictures and the dialogue were easy. And then the sex, I was completely thrown off guard because I was completely intimidated. At least my first couple of scenes, I was thrown out there with people that I really had crushes on. Oh, dear. You lucky girl. But at the same time, I can see where you would be completely intimidated. It would be not. It would be nice if, for example, that they could use that crush energy. So instead of putting you into a scene where you had to be their protege or blah, blah, blah, they could be Daisy Ducati. You could be the young woman with a crush on somebody and just play out the crush energy and not trying to act like something else. Yeah. Because you're not going to get that crush energy ever again. No, no. It's fresh and sweet and lovely. Did they allow you to play that out and use it in the scene? Yeah, there was one scene where I was playing a groupie, and that was perfect. Oh, perfect. It was perfect. Was that your very first scene? No, that was a few scenes. And my very first scene was actually a girl-girl wrestling thing. Oh. Pink.com? No, it was for academy wrestling. Cool. Academy wrestling? Yeah. And I had been doing fetish wrestling for a while, but it was just bikini wrestling, you know. Yeah. And I got booked for this, and I didn't realize it was porn. Oh, well then. Surprise. Hello. I was like, oh, that pays well. But I was booked with my friend, and we were talking about carpooling, and she's like, are you ready for the sex scene? And I was just like, what? Sex scene? Oh, no. Well, I guess I'd bang you, so let's do it. Oh, cool. I know. Oh, so you were totally, you had no idea. You thought you were just wrestling, and you ended up having great girl, was it great girl-girl sex? Oh, yeah. It was great. And it was with somebody that you were already friends with. Yeah. See, I would never recommend anyone end up on their first porn set that way, but the fact that you were not 18 at the time, how old were you when you did your first scene? Oh, shoot. You're 18. I was 22. Good, so you've been out in the world a couple of years, you've had more sexual experience, you've been dating around, so it wasn't just like, oh, my gosh, what's going on? No, you were 18 in a week. Yeah, exactly. You know, you've been in the world as an adult. Because normally I would tell people, well, it's something you should think about long and hard, because once you go there, you can't go back. Right. And it might seem fun at the time, but there are consequences, so I really recommend. So I'm glad for you that it worked. I'm glad for you that it worked out, that you went ahead and did it, and it's been good for you, as opposed to, oh, my gosh, what have I done? So yay you. And I mean, I did invest some thought in it. I'd been doing nude modeling for a while. It was just one more... Yeah, it was just like one more step. I had fetish modeling and nude modeling, and I was like, okay, I could do that. Did you have an orgasm your first time on film? Yeah, I did. Sweet! Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I cum really easily. Oh, no. And I hate helping making young ladies cum. I know you do. I know, it's terrible. Oh, I have to check. Stevie, do I still have a Hitachi magic wand here? Oh, yes. Okay. Mine is missing at home. I went to get it, and I just thought of making you cum, and then mine went to my Hitachi magic wand, and then I went, okay, but the one at home is missing. Yeah, I had new housekeepers come over the other day. I no longer have a Hitachi magic wand. It lives under my bed. It never leaves my house, and it is gone. That's terrible. You didn't get a new housekeeper. That's terrible. Well, they are new housekeepers. My housekeeper had a stroke. No. Yes, it's very, very sad. We totally love our housekeeper. She's been with Ernest for 18 years. Do you have somebody fabulous? We have someone fabulous, and we trust her with, you know, we just can leave, and she's done. Okay, I need to talk to you more after the show then, because I had one of those teams, you know, I went online and called, you know, the maids, and they came out, but why would you take somebody's Hitachi magic wand? I mean, there's a million things in my house. They're 40 bucks online. If you go to Pleasure Chest and get one of your very, very own, and go to the Kuhn's Hardware and get a 12-foot extension cord for $9, and then you're done. You're good to go. Good to go anywhere. Any hotel room, it's fine. I didn't mean to jump us off track there. I just was thinking about making you come. Look at this beautiful face. Oh, no, no, believe me. Look at this face. So, so, so, so, so, so, what kind of things can girls do to you that help you to have orgasms? I like playing assistant. I'm an assistant to your orgasm. How might I be of help to your pleasure? I really like fingering. Even fisting. Oh, I love you more and more every day. I'm a very good fister. Nina's an excellent fister. Do you have any interest in being fisted today? You do. Look at that. She's all excited and saying yes. I hate my life. Stop it. We've got gloves. We've got a nice satin blanket to put down. We have clean blankie. We have electricity. Because you have those nails. No, no, no. Nina's going to. I have the dike nails. She has the femme nails. I fisted myself with these nails. Awesome. And I fisted my friend the other day for the first time. With those nails. With these nails. Wow. I am. Hats off to you. That's an ultra femme. That is. That's someone. Wow. That's someone who has some femme. You just have to know what you're doing. It's true. You have to be careful. You can't just go in there jamming everything. It's always a curl over. I wonder how that works. You have to kind of go sideways. Ah. So I'm on the outside. Yes. Yeah. And then you tuck the nail like that. Okay. There you go. Can you take a whole fist? Huh? Can you take Nina's fist you think? Yeah. Totally. Yeah. I'm a medium. I'm a medium. My hands are huge and I fist myself all the time. Oh my God. I can't. How did you discover that you like this? So I actually fisted myself for the first time on webcam. Somebody was like, hey, can you fist yourself? And my thing on webcam is if I haven't done it before, I'm willing to try it. And so I was like, well, you can take me to private and we'll see how it goes. I told him there's no promises, but I'll give it a shot. And I figured out that you can't go from the front. Yeah. You have to. I have to lay on my side and lift my leg up and go from the side. Yeah. Oh. Partly because it's anatomical because if your arms aren't long enough or your ass is too big, it's just not going to reach. Yeah. In that way. Yeah. And like the, it does a weird thing with my wrist. Yeah. It comes from the front. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I'm very excited and very thrilled about seeing all of this. You might be here for the whole two hours. It just might happen. Uh oh. We're keeping her as much as long as we possibly can. We probably can. And I hate, I hate. I tell people all the time that no one gives you an orgasm. Your partner helps you find it. And I've spent the last 40 years learning to help people find their orgasms. And boy, do I like my life. Stevie, can we get the, uh, the mat out and the pillow? Oh, are you okay? Yeah. He's going, my head's between my knees. Something, Stevie is trying to blow himself over in the corner. Right. Do you, Daisy, um, are you, are you from California? I'm originally from the East Coast, but I live in San Francisco now. Oh, okay. Lucky. I'm from Berkeley. Born and raised in Berkeley. I would, I would live there if I could. Yeah. Yeah. The money's down here. Yeah. That's why I'm here. And my husband and his job and all that. All that good stuff. We've got a phone call on the line. We've got L-Sweet. Oh. Hello, baby girl. Hello, Ginger. Hello, Nina. Hi. Do you have a video camera? Can you see how lovely to gaze upon is Miss Ducati? Yes. I am watching you guys, even though the, uh, picture's like 10, 20 seconds behind me. Oh, I hate that. Oh, is it? There's a delayed when you're watching. Okay. So you can't see us right now, but you will in a second. Yeah. I can, I can see, but it's behind what you're saying. Oh, how annoying. Oh, my gosh. That is quite crazy. Okay, pretend. Don't watch. Well, no, I don't know what to do. I'm dyslexic. She may have, she may have to turn the sound down to not be distracted by the vision. But you know what? I'll say this about Miss Sweet. She is an adult person. I can figure out what the fuck she needs. She needs to do on her own self. L Sweet. Have you ever thought about getting into porn? Um, getting into a porn star. There you go. Yeah. Having sex. Okay. Let's, let's forget the porn part. Have you ever had sex on film? No, no. I, I don't like, um, I don't like the way I look on in pictures. I get it. Yeah. You know, I don't like the way that I look in pictures a lot of times too. I totally understand. But the sex overrode the, how I looked. I was like, this feels too good to even worry about. Feels too good. I can figure out how to do it without having to be on film. So it works. It works for me. But I wanted to say I'm happy to see Nina back and Stevie. I hope he's feeling better. Stevie, are you feeling better? I'm still stuffed up. Still coughing. But other than that, I'm better. I don't have that crazy headache and the fever. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Stevie. Yeah, how can you not? And she has dimples on top of everything else. Dollar makes the village. I have a fetish for red hair and dimples. She didn't know that, but there you have it. She seems like so sweet and innocent. Yeah, I know. I know. You know what I was thinking, L-Sweet? Because you've been so kind and so nice. Maybe if Daisy would allow me to give her a kiss in your honor, I would. Daisy, can I give you a kiss? Of course. All right, I'm going in, L-Sweet. This is for you. So you just, yeah. We are sparking now, too. Ow! I am just messing up that knee today. For those of you who cannot see, their mouths are barely, oh, softly closed and pressing against each other. And Ginger has Daisy's head in her hands, and Daisy has her hand on Ginger's elbow. And it's super sweet. Kissing the upper lip, lower lip simultaneously, the lovely, sweet things. Too much is made of only, French kissing is sexy when they, there's so much other kinds of kissing that is, honestly, even more sexy than just going for the tonsillectomy. So my number one rule of kissing, very sweet, very lovely. My number one rule for telling guys when they're kissing is, let her slip you tongue first. Oh, that's a good rule. What? I hate that. I hate when somebody comes at me and their tongue's already sticking out. It's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Careful with that tongue, Eugene. Eugene? Are you fucking someone named Eugene? No, it's a line from a song. Careful with that ax, Eugene. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I'll do a search on that line because it'll tell you what group that is. Careful with that ax, Eugene. Okay. And it's a song lyric from the 60s, early 70s. I was wondering who Eugene was there for a second. Yeah. A person in a song. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. So when do we move forward to this pleasure thing? I'm thinking it's time right now. It's time. We are going on to a little fisting right now. No, we're going to a little bit of vulva worship. Vulva worship. I'm sorry. Did I just say it crudely? No, no, no. We're going to fist. Vulva worship. Punch my cunt. Vulva, vulva, no, no. Vulva worship, which may end up with the vulva engulfment of my fist or a punch. I can go nice or firm, whatever it is. You know the joke, though. Why don't lesbians make good fighters? But I've got a couple women who like punching, who like. I like to have my pussy punched. No, but there's punching the perineum, which is awesome as an impact thing. Yes. And then there's punching into the vagina as with really good yeast dough. I've known two fisties who prefer that way in, who say, yeah, you know, just go. Yeah. And everyone else is some form of. Now, maybe a short ramp up. I mean, I've only met two women who are like, just put your fist against my introitus and push. It's like, okay. Well, we're going to try this one right now. Are you ready for a little fisting? Yeah. A little vulva. Vulva. A glove. Vulva fluffing. Vulva playing. Vulva. Where are the gloves? Gloves are on the second shelf on the left. I need pictures of this. Stevie, I want to take my Hitachi Magic Wand home because I need one at home. Yes, of course you do. I can't believe you don't have one. Yes, I'd rather have one at home for me. You know they probably want it going on eBay. Yay! I'm just going wild. Of all the things in my house, you know, there's like, you know, earrings sitting out and things that are really nice and jewelry and things that would be so easy to nab. But my Hitachi Magic Wand. Because either they're a pervert and they really, really like you or they're going to sell it on eBay. I can't imagine of all things why they would take that. And I just used it. So I know that it was there. Anyway. That's why they took it. It had ginger scent. It had ginger juices on it. That's right. That was it. It's not the most expensive. It's the most valuable. Exactly. It's like the ring in the Lord of the Rings. You know, they're like, precious. Precious. Precious. All right, sweetheart. Thank you so much for calling in. We're going to do a little bit of vulva worship right now. And this will be in your honor as well, sweetheart. Thank you. Yay! All right. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Now, we need to arrange, Mrs. Dukai, so the camera looks at her in a beautiful ways. I'm going to do that. Let's get it. Do you want to be her pillow, the person— I have a pillow. Do you want to be the person against whom she leaned? I can do that. And the pillow, so— Oh, you have this. Yeah, yeah, you need that, you need that. Do you do, Sierre? No, you don't, Sierre. I'm going to move this camera right now. You get comfortable. We're getting Daisy— Do you have a clean towel for her bum? Yeah. This is clean. Okay. Do you want this somewhere? I'm not sure. You want Daisy to be... I'll come over here. Okay? I think. Is this the way we want it? And then Ginger will get behind you. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, damn it. And Daisy has just fallen right into place. Ginger and Nina. Oh. Daisy just put her wallet on the table, and now she is leaning back over her pillow, which is going to prop her up. And Nina's going to go in, and she is going to fist. Talk on the microphone. So, Stevie, you're going to have to narrate the whole time. Okay. I have to move over so I can see. All right. Yeah, my microphone won't move over. You know what? You need to get one of those floor chairs that has a back built in the back. Meanwhile, everybody, I am going to move chairs so I can watch what's going on and narrate exactly what's happening for you. Oh. So, I'm in place. Daisy is spreading her legs, and she's taking off her top. She is naked. Ginger has slid up behind her so that she can lean on her. And Nina has applied her gloves to her hands. She's crawled in. She is tweaking Daisy Ducati's nipple right now, playing with it sensually. She's pulling. She's reaching over, playing with Ginger's ear. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Daisy's pretty pussy lips. She is... Her shaft and hood are trapped between the fingers. And my fingers are going down in between her inner and outer lips. And Nina's fingers are going down and up between her inner and outer lips. And she's just massaging there, making everything feel really good, as Ginger is. And, Steve... I've got the white nipple in my hand. The left one I'm having trouble touching. Ginger's having a hard time catching the left nipple, but she's got the right one, no problem. Left hand around her neck and kiss her ear and things like that. And we're applying more lube right now. That's this one. I know, right? Everybody is giggling. I am zooming in for a close-up, which I'll be tweeting. You can see Nina's fingers just playing just outside. She's massaging those outer lips. Very nicely. Applying pressure. She's not anywhere in the hole. She's on the outside. Ginger's now running her fingers up Daisy's stomach. Up to her neck. Down to her belly button. She's using her nails. Applying light pressure. Can you hand me this buzzy toy? We're getting a buzzy toy right now. Which is one of the things I'd rather have. I'm not even going to lie. I'm going to go get it. And Nina's fingers. She has two fingers inside of Daisy Ducati. She is rocking back and forth from left to right. Oh, this is a good one. Do you? Not really in and out so much, but more from left to right. She's stretching down. Like she's pulling downwards. Now she's back up. Back down. Two fingers. And now. And she. Comes back up. And she's back inside. And she's moving centrally back and forth now. Big flat circles. Counterclockwise. Big flat circles. And now. She can feel Daisy's cervix on her fingernails. And there's also high touch. High touch. She's got a little bit of a high touchy magic wand in there. We're getting some nice pictures. You're going to enjoy these tweets. And. We've got this purple high touchy wand. If you're watching right now. At skidrowstudios.com. Ooh. She has a rumble stilt skin happening. Here. That fist is. Nina's fist is deep in there. Daisy. Daisy. Is. Absolutely. Enjoying this. And. Nina is pulsating her hand inside like a heartbeat. Like a beating heart. And her hand is. Is clenched. But she's squeezing. And slowly. Going in tiny, tiny circles. And her fingers are kind of opening up a little bit. Closing back down. She's explaining. She's doing with one. With her right hand. And showing. With her left hand. What she's doing inside. If you're watching this. You'll be able to see what's going on. And how you can fist somebody. As Nina does. And she's using Daisy's pelvic muscles as a fulcrum. And she's pressing her fingers into the anterior wall of her vagina. In and out right now. That's what Daisy likes. She said. Just like that. And she's got that. Hi. Tachi. Purple. Hi. Tachi. Magic wand. They're getting deep strokes. Real deep strokes. She's pushing Daisy's uterus up into her chest. And it's a nice deep. Pulsing sensation. She's going. She's going faster now. She's going faster. Above her breast, below, clenching, deep clenching. Oh. She just pushed Nina's hand clean out. And she's like creaming. She's just put the Hitachi right where Nina's fist was. Oh, Rumpelstiltskin. That was beautiful. Now we'll see if Daisy can talk. It's a good thing we're just about due for a break right now. I'm going to wait. I'm going to let Ginger send you into our break. She's getting up now. Daisy's putting on her panties. She's got these great leopard panties with lace. We're going to take a quick break here. There are no problems. No body go anywhere. The show is just starting. We've got more than you can handle today on Blame It On Ginger. No problem. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. I'm sorry? You like for there to be a clear winner and loser? Yes, yes, because in the company that she was with, Academy, they get to use a dildo to the loser, basically. Oh, I love that, right? Yeah. That sounds like it's wonderful. The company's called Academy? Yeah, Academy Wrestling. Academy Wrestling. Got it. Academy Wrestling. I would never be good at that. You might have been, Ginger, but here's how, when someone starts fighting with me, I go, whee! You know, so I'm lousy. I never even tried because I'm too scared of hurting my back or my knee. I just can't. I can't get into the, I share my aggression with women in different ways. Well, funny enough, the first thing that I ever did on film was wrestling, but it was pure wrestling, and it was with Bunny Blue. Oh, my God. Bunny Blue and I, I was, Jim South sent me on this. She was even littler than you. I know, and we had a real, and I've got. I had a blast. Martial arts for all these years, and I didn't have it at that point in time, but I had gymnastics. And I had all kinds of. And you have a high testosterone, very energetic young person, so you have a lot of oomph to give. And she was, if you were 5'2 and 110, she was 5'1". Exactly, exactly. And it was one of the most fun things I've ever done, but I took it seriously. I mean, I really wrestled. There was no fooling around. There was like, I'm going to win this wrestling match, and I. And that was part of the turn up, but there was no sex afterwards. There was no fingering, no. Well, I hadn't gotten into porn yet. Oh, of course, of course, of course. Right. Modeling, and this was, he's like, I want you to shoot a video, but it's wrestling only. And I went in there with the, you know, and then it's Buddy Blue who did porn, but I went in there with the mindset that I was not going to do porn yet. I wasn't ready for it. No, no. You don't do it before you're ready. Why bother? All right. Yes, honey. I remember also your match with Bobby Starr, too. My match with Bobby Starr, that was for kink.com. Yes. Did she kick your butt? You know what? I scored one point, which is not easy to do with Bobby Starr. He's got four inches on you. She's four inches taller than me and half my age. Oh, that. Yeah. Yeah. And I had just had knee surgery maybe three months before. Oh, no, no. She's scary. No. And Bobby got my knee and kicked it out, and that was it. Oh, no. That was it for me. That's another reason I can't do. She's like a two-year-old now. Yeah. Yeah. She's got a baby now. Yeah. Awesome. Crazy good. Yeah. She's wonderful. Yeah. Smart. Woo. I'm getting all hot and bothered in here. Right? Yeah. Oh, it's just hot. Is it just hot? And you're bothered. And you're bothered. And I'm bothered. I'm wearing all, it's cold here in LA today, and so I wore all these winter clothes, and now it's like winter or summer in the studio. I heard a new joke. What's that? How many New Yorkers did it take to screw in a light bulb? Oh. How many? How many? Fuck you. I saw something. Not too long. How many New Yorkers who've moved to California did it take to screw in a light bulb? I don't know. Oh, I don't know. Fuck you, but have a nice day. Oh. Anything else we can do? Anything for you, Sweet Pea? We've got Jocelyn Stone calling in in just a second. Oh, I just want to say that I'm a fan of hers as well, and she knows me as well. She doesn't know me as Sweet Pea, but she knows me by my real name. Oh. I'll tell it to you on the break. Okay. I'll tell it to you on the break. All right, sweetheart. Thank you so much for calling in today, honey. We always love to hear from you. You're welcome. Thank you for calling. Did we get what, honey? Did you give her the glitter? Did I give Nina her candy? Yes, I did. I sure did. Thank you so much. It was very tasty. Do you still even have some, which shows you that I have self-control? And I have none. All of my Pixies that you sent for me. Pixie sticks? No, Pixies. Turtles? Like turtles. Oh, of course. Yes, yes, yes. They're like turtles. Yes. My son kind of found the boxes. From the one company in Illinois. From the company in Illinois. Got it. Yeah. My son helped me with those. It's not safe to have candy around the house with an 18-year-old. Oh, hell no. Oh, you know what, sweetheart? You're always so kind, and I really do appreciate it. You've got a big heart. Thank you, Winlet. I'm always happy to take care of you all. Aw. Aw, thank you, baby. Anytime. All right, we'll talk to you next week, honey. Thanks again. I saw a really cute picture. I think it was on Twitter of you and Ernest. He's wearing the little scarf around his neck. Oh, I think we're reading a book. I'm holding the book up for him. No, there's no book. You're just sitting together, and there's a cage behind you. Oh, yeah, that's from the LA Weekly this week. It was in LA Weekly. Yeah. Okay. I didn't know what it is. You're in the LA Weekly this week? Yes, on stands until Thursday, so until Wednesday. We're page nine. Page nine. I've got to look at it. Good for you. It's a good article. And it's a great article on? It's supposed to be about the book and being about us, which is very annoying because LA Weekly does have a history of using people in the sex business. The kinky world as a sideshow and a circus act. You know, look at the, you know, way, way back in the 80s, they would bring us on TV during Sleeps Week. Oh, yeah. May and November. Absolutely. They used to do that all the time. All the time. That's when I did all my talk shows in the 80s was always doing May or November when they would come in. And I didn't mind because I was there for a bigger agenda. I knew I wasn't going to change the host mind. I wasn't going to change anyone else on stage, but someone at home alone who needed to hear what I had to say going, yeah, in podunk. That's why I did those. I did those shows and put myself up for ridicule because someone at home needed to be able to know they're not the only one. Because when I was little, see, you're young enough now when you realize I'm not like other kids, you had options, which is awesome. So you're here sooner, healthier, more self-evolved and more self-aware than when we started. The average 23 year old person was. Yay, you. Yay. There was something called Doll Skin. I saw it because I wanted to see Doll Skin's fashions. It was Ella Darling. I love Ella Darling. Ella Darling. That she was going to be in a fashion show. And it was with this whole, I don't know if anybody went to this, to the BDSM film. There was like a film festival or something. I didn't know that. Yeah. And it was, I've seen it on, well, I hear a busy signal somewhere. I'm seeing it on my Instagram. I saw things from the Instagram. Got it. The Dark Mark was on there. Showed he was at this, this whole festival that had. When was that? I guess this whole weekend was, there was a kink festival. Oh. In LA. Oh. Yeah. I know that was going on, on I think Friday. Was it Friday? Yeah. Yeah. Was that, was it the thing at Bar Sinister? Something Bar Sinister. Yeah. Yeah. And Stock Room or something. Yeah. Or something. I heard about that. I didn't get a chance to stop by. How did I miss all of that? I missed it too. You were probably home fucking your man. I was probably home. You know what I was doing this weekend? I was actually doing my very first shoot with my new company. Yes. It's called Panaporn. Do tell. Panaporn is, is a company that uses a product. It's called the Ladybug. And what we did was we shot six girls all at the same time in 360 degrees. Awesome. So you, and you as the viewer had the ability to swipe and go from scene to scene. You could zoom in. You could go wherever you want. It's like being in the center. You are like the camera. So wherever you want to go around the room, you just do it with your, with your keyboard. Can't wait. And we shot it in 3D as well. Oh my God. It's in 3D also? It's shot in 3D. You can go slow-mo? But it can be viewed in 2D. And in six months, there's a new product coming out. It's a pair of goggles that you will be able to walk into the room wearing these goggles. And wherever you look, that's what you're going to see. So you don't even have to use your, your computer anymore. Wow. Or your device. That's where, that's where that, hands-free masturbation. I love it. You can be in the grocery store, in the park, and you'll see these if you put the glasses on? As long as you, you're connected to your device and you've got the ability. I mean, you're going to have to see this. You're going to have to have. I'm not quite sure. So Stevie's looking all over the room. You know what? In June. I'm trying to imagine. Obviously, starting in April, I'm sure she'll be able to say a lot more about it. I'll tell you more about it. But right now, what we did was we had a. Remember there was something where you turn the phone on? And you can like do this and you'll see it. Like you go around in circles. You can move it around. And you can like go where you want. Crazy. Let me see that for a second. See if I have a different number for Jocelyn. Oh, is that what that busy tone is? Let me see if there's a different number for Jocelyn. Nino, would you like to read an excerpt from The Master of O? Absolutely. Not The Master, from Master of O? I'm going to do the. Not the obvious thing to read about sex, but I'm going to read about Stephen's closet. So Stephen Diamond is a high-powered criminal defense attorney here in Los Angeles, modern day. And he is a sharp dresser. He is a self-made man. He has everything he could possibly want, including all the lovely, submissive partners he could ever, ever wish to hope for. His half-brother, Ray. Ray has gifted him for the evening with O, his slave. And as we start this chapter, he has left her. Actually, you know what? I'm going to read the last of chapter one, the beginning of chapter two. So at this point, the deal has been made. O is to stay with Stephen. Ray is leaving. And with a final, traditional, paternal embrace for Stephen, Ray turned and walked out the wide steel front door, his steps receding toward the elevator. They could hear him singing. He was looking to himself in the hall until the elevator bell dinged. For an instant, O considered chasing after the man she knew with all his strengths to avoid the man whose strengths were the most obvious things about him. But O did not flee. She was alone with the minotaur in his labyrinth, the way she had sometimes fantasized as a girl. Cold in the gut, nevertheless, she could not turn her back on this fabulous beast. Stephen looked into the dark pools of O's yearning eyes and decided on the spot to let the beast off its leash. I have no idea whether this makes sense or not. O said, but I'm going to find out. Get undressed. I'll be back in a few minutes. This is where I want to find you. Stephen turned and vanished down alongside the glass wall. His outside bedroom on the other side of this sturdy wall he'd built was also open to the exterior glass so he could kick back in his giant girder-framed bed and keep an eye on the city. The walls were upholstered in a rich, dark red fabric. Metal chests trimmed in rivets and leather straps ran to the ceiling on one side with a sliding ladder on a built-in track for accessing the upper drawers. A row of classic white oak... Classic white oak... White oak... ...machinist's chest and big frame mirrors stood neatly arranged along the other wall. The bed, slightly elevated on a low platform, was fitted with steel rings at the corners. Along the beams, a mattress spread with a black Pertizi duvet trimmed in the trademark triple striping, also red. Low recessed lights set high around the perimeter gave a little competition to the illuminated skyline outside the glass. A door at the back, not far from the bed, gave in to Stephen's dressing area. Nearly as large as the bedroom itself, its burl wood interior was lined with drawers, cabinets, hanging bars, and three-way mirrors. It was all from a once-exclusive men's shop, the interior of which Stephen had purchased, dismantled, and recreated in his loft when the shop went broke. Furnished only with a large, tufted leather bench in the center, it was as orderly as a still-open-for-business. Every suit, jacket, shirt, and pair of trousers hung in neat rows organized by color and design. Piles of cashmere sweaters were stacked in glass-fronted cases. Rolled socks, ties, and scarves were tucked into rows of open cubbyholes. A door with a porthole in it, one of the few doors in the whole place, permitted entry to a black marble bathroom. Equipped with every kind of plumbing fixture, all fitted with chrome spouts and hoses and thermostats. Stephen went straight to the mirrored double doors above the twin sinks, switched on the surrounding makeup lights, and snagged a pill bottle from the cabinet on the left. He swallowed two blue diamond tabs with a handful of water from the faucet. It was pure drug abuse. He didn't need chemical assistance. He just enjoyed two-hour hard-ons. His agenda was often elaborate, and he liked to pursue it at his own pace. What a miracle drug they invented for perverts. If this wasn't to be a one-time thing, as the passing of the key suggests, it wouldn't be. Best not to hurry. No need to go into the back room this night. His wonders could wait. Simple, deliberate, and direct felt right. Back at his private boutique, where everything was the perfect size and color, Stephen undressed, his system for dismantling himself never varied. Oh, might well be naked not far away by now. She would wait for him. Waiting was part of it. The rose stink bid came out first, to be skewered into the red felt inside the fitted leather dressing box. His plain, round, platinum, and jet cufflinks went there too, in a different compartment from the toggled, stained bracelet and the onyx ring. The engraved card case and pillbox dropped into their spaces, and the black leather box shut with a firm click. Removing the red and black pocket square, Stephen shook it, folded it neatly, and slid it into a narrow drawer with many like it, and many others more ornate. There was another drawer for glasses an optometrist might have envied. The wallet joined a dozen more in a locked cabinet, and the fountain pen slid into a vertical rack. Inside a glass case crowded with fine writing instruments. His big moon phase watch joined a dozen others, and a motionless, motorized, tribune auto-winder with a skeleton movement. He got a quick glimpse of himself in the three-way fitting mirror. Stephen's looks didn't inspire vanity, but his style did. Style his mother had taught him was a weapon in the arsenal, and Stephen enjoyed shedding his armor less than he enjoyed putting it on. He'd gotten the dimple in that tie just right today. Shame to wreck it. Stephen had often stayed dressed for the girls who fetishized the power suit guy, but on this occasion, everything must go. Stephen unknotted the tie as carefully as he had earlier pulled it into the perfect foreign hand. No yanking on the woven silk. The tie dropped, and the apartment was a controlled riot of color, where today's choice, snugly rolled, went back to its cubicle in the red and black section. He tossed his brightly lined suit jacket lightly onto the leather bench, revealing his devil's red braces. Back in the day, a gentleman never showed his braces to anyone with whom he was not intimate, and in their way, they were racier than the more pornographic embroidered ones he wore expressly to be seen. In the now open-collared red shirt, one of a dozen he had, turned will make up for him, and the suit trousers with the traditional razor-edge waist-to-cuff pleats. Stephen briefly considered going back out to O.J.S. as he wanted, and he was. Remembering that this was not a seduction, he settled on the braces on their hooks, hung the suit in the D.B. department, laying the broad lapels flat to avoid falling over the peaks, and treated the boots before sliding them into the half-dozen shells of footwear. The shirt went to the dry-cleaning department, underwear and socks went to the concealed hamper. For the moment, Stephen looked at himself naked. He was already feeling the first hot flush of the drug hitting his system, and he didn't know yet the precise interval for O. at which anticipation turned to boredom. From the long bar of robes and dressing gowns, he continued today's theme with a heavy black and black shirt, black silk turmbull and aster, its wide quilted shawl lapels and matching cuffs piped in red. How many pairs of skull embroidered velvet slippers could one man wear in a lifetime? Stephen's own extravagance has made him cringe occasionally, but now is not the moment for introspecting. O. was expecting him to be his bad self, most women wanted from him. He lowered the lights and headed out to tonight's arena. That's from the book Master of O by Ernest Green. MasterofO.com is where you can get your very own copy of Master of O. It's, you know what? It's getting hot in here. Let's take off all our clothes. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's really hot in here. They're hot in here. I thought it was just my tea I was drinking. Or you know what? I don't care if we hear the AC in the back. You want to just turn the AC on? Go for it. It'll be a steady sound. Just turn it on. Yeah, we're dying in here. We've got, we've got three, four hot girls and Stevie. Did you find, did you find Jocelyn? Jocelyn? You know what? I have a couple of numbers for Jocelyn. One is a busy signal. One was a weird, was somebody else. And the third one was a recording or was her, her voicemail. So. Okay. Well golly, poor, poor Daisy. She gets to be the contiguous center of attention. Oh. You're going to be the whole center of attention. Oh no. You like spanking. So with women, are you switchy? Or do you prefer to be toppy with women or? I mean, in general, I'm switchy. I prefer to be dominant in general, but I can, I can switch. I bet you are. I'm a switchy. I'm a switchy. I'm a switchy. I'm a switchy. I'm a switchy. I'm a switchy. I think your, your, your ability to have orgasms so easily is helpful in that. It's hard, it's hard for me to switch with women because the orgasm payoff is not, I can do it certainly on camera. If you're making, if you're good at what you do, I can certainly let you drive the bus. I'm not, I'm not immune to being seduced by pleasure, but I'm not naturally submissive. Yeah. It's like, you have to really know what you're doing for me to let you drive the bus. It's like, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey. Cause most of the time I'm the person with the most experience in the room as the general rule that happens to be that way. So finding someone who has more experience or enough experience to meet me as an equal, it's just statistically harder to do, which is why I married Ernest because he's had more pussy than me. How is that possible? Cause he's a dedicated pussy. He has been into women since he was 16 years old and has not looked back since. So he's, you know, yeah, you're a lucky girl. You guys are a wonderful, wonderful couple. You and Nick, you and Nick, you and Nick are a wonderful couple. We are a good couple. We're a fantastic couple. And the nice thing about being in a relationship with him is that I want to be. Yeah, right, right. Every day I wake up and we do. I want to be here and I want to be there with him. And I remember for so long being in different relationships that it was good for a while, but after six months, you know, I wanted to go. I want to, it was just, you know, no matter how long I stuck around, I, after six months, I really wanted to get out of there every fucking time. And I don't know why, but I just wasn't it because it wasn't the right person. Right. There wasn't. But I remember that when you first got with Nick, you know, you, you warned him just so you know, I'm a bolter. Yeah. I did. Just so you know, I'm a cheater. And in seven years, no bolting, no cheating. Go figure. Because they're honest upfront about what their limitations were. Are you currently, do you seek out romantic attachment in your personal life? I'm polyamorous. So I'm kind of just a slut. Yeah. Have you read Ethical Slut? Uh, second edition. Oh, not the second edition. It's even better than the first one. I read the first one that first came out when I first found it many years ago. I'm rereading the second edition so I can be more current convinced. It's as good as it ever was. It's called the Ethical Slut? Yes. The Ethical Slut. And what's it about? It's about how to conduct non-traditional sexual, non-traditional sexual life in a way that is open, honest, ethical, supportive, opposite of cheating, the opposite of hurting, the opposite of, of being a douchebag. And a lot of the chapters are, are designed to help people move from A to B. So there's a lot of exercises you can do. I love what you said about anger, which, you know, anger, anger lets you know what's important to you. And obviously all feelings are energy, anger is an energy, sadness is an energy, and energy can be redirected like a river. So, so it is lots of good skill sets for how to traverse from where I am to where I think I want to be. And that mucky middle of letting go of old assumptions and old training and old habits and cultural expectations to what do I actually want? There's what the culture says I'm supposed to want and it's what I actually want. How can I reconcile the two? Okay. So it's a really good self-help book for- It's a wonderful book. It's a really good book for people who want to live a, again, an ethical slut can be celibate. They can be abstinent. It's not about behavior. It's not about how many, it's not about the number of partners. It's the quality of each partnering. And basically you and Nick already do this because, and, and Ernest and I do it and Sparky and her playmates do it. I'm sure you do it. The, the key to all ethical sluttery is just show up, be honest, be in the moment and take it from there. And don't be a douche. Those are just basic good guidelines for everybody. Yeah. Just basic communication. Absolutely. But when people get stuck and I talk about this all the time, when people are, are, are quote unquote the norm, i.e. both expecting monogamy and heterosexuality, when I'm, when I'm normal air quotes, I assume that you and I, and you are normal. We assume that you, that a kiss means the same thing to you as to me. We don't talk about it because we're normal. When you're stepping outside of the norm, we have to talk about it. So for you and Nick, you have a kissing boundary, which is what helps keep you guys safe. Well, I can kiss. I just can't be like, like I kissed you. I can't be sticking my tongue down your throat and making out with you. And Nick can do that. But so French kissing, that's their boundary. That's for them. That's a personal thing over here. But because of doing things in a non-traditional way, that's something that must be spoken directly, actually given voice to. And so what I like about being in porn, being a professional, being poly is that it requires communication and not, and before I got straight with myself, I was always wondering what would I do? I was always thinking and all the bullshit before you realize I don't want to be this way anymore. I can't live this way because I'm not normal. Air quotes around the word normal. I am polyamorous. I didn't have the word poly in high school. I only had the word swinger. What does the word poly mean? Many loves. So it is poly. Poly is the cat. These days has become a catchall phrase to indicate that you and your partner live some kind of non-monogamous existence. So I would be polyamorous. You are. Yeah. So you're somewhere between poly and swinger, meaning you like your female playmates, but you do not pursue relationships with them. No, I don't. So you're not calling them up in this. So with polyamory, what it permits is every individual relationship to seek its own level, its own intensity, its own durations, own reason for being. So you're both beautiful women, but if you and I were to get together in a non-commercial situation, it would mean and be something different for you and me. And if you and I, with or without Nick, did the same thing. So it's allowing, instead of, you know, I love young women. No, I like Daisy, who happens to be young, but it's not because she's young that I find her interesting. It's not because you're little ginger Lynn that I find you interesting because I find you interesting. So I don't have to make you be my girlfriend. I don't have to make you bring me chicken soup. I can appreciate you for ginger. And then when you leave, when part company, you're ginger. I don't call you in the sun. I don't, I just, I let you be you. And when our orbits connect, who knows what will happen that day, but we are open to saying, Hey, where are you at? Need some help? Horny? Yeah, I got banged good last night. Let's just, let's just watch TV. Sweet. Can I rub your feet? See with you and I, our relationship can go anywhere at any time. And that's one of the things I love about it because we're so comfortable with each other and we can now I'm allowed to make out with you because Nick knows it's you. Thank you, Nick. I will send her home horny forever. For your dick. What's funny is like, I can lick any pussy I want. I can, I can do anything, but, but kissing with tongue and making out is, is the most intimate thing that I can do with a woman. And so unless my man is there, that's where we draw the line under those circumstances. Um, but I, but I like the B it's up to each of us to decide what, what makes me, what boundaries make me feel safe. I need to communicate them to you and then you can agree to them or not agree to them. And so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. would build up and build up and build up. And then my issue would be I'd be basically puking in their lap. It was just very immature, very childish. And guess what? Most of the time the reaction was pretty bad. Someone just puked in your lap. And then I'm upset that they're upset, but wouldn't you be upset someone puked in your lap? Yeah. Sorry. Why did you puke in their lap? You were nervous? No, not literally. Emotionally puking. Oh. But emotionally. Oh, I thought you really puked. I missed part of it. I'm going. Well, yeah, I'd be upset. You just puked. Emotional pukage. Because I couldn't speak about things until it got so bad I couldn't. And that's a bad place to start. I get it now. Because you're already so upset and so scared and so freaked out that it's like, eh, no healing. No insight. No, no. We're not here. Right. So when I look, so you're 23? 24. So you're 24. So when I was 24, I was doing stripping. I was one year away from porn. And I was already three years into what was going to be a 20-year bad marriage. So whenever I see young women, I don't have my own children. So I can, instead of going, my children. I was like, oh, God, when I was her age, I was not as cool. I was not as put together. I didn't have as good of boundaries, good communication, self-awareness. I was like, wow, they can make 20-somethings like this? That's crazy good. Oh, my God. Because when we were that age, we were that girl. We had plenty of bullshit still left to deal with. I had a lot. I had a lot. And when I was at your age, I was the unicorn. I was like the perfect. I was the girl that was always there for the other couple, for the other people. And it was fun for me at the time. It was perfect. But today now, I found that there aren't a lot of unicorns left out there. No. Do you sleep with couples? Rarely. I have to already know that. What if he's a cuckold? What if he's a cuckold? Oh, that's different. You tie him up and you make him watch him fuck your wife. Yeah. I mean, you make him watch you while you make love with her. Yeah. His wife. His wife. No wife. Hot. Hot. Oh, I like that. I like that. We have to take a quick break here. We sure do. Oh, my gosh. Are you ready, baby? All right. We're not going to go anywhere. We're just going to take a quick little break here on Blame It On Ginger. All right. Okay, honey. All right. Don't go anywhere. We're going to take a quick break here on Blame It On Ginger. When we come back, we have got a game for you. It's a little bit of pleasure, a little bit of pain. I've got some trivia from the year 2013. And we're going to find out just how much each of us knows about sex and what the... Average person thinks. That's going to be here in just a second. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. Wow. Let's go. Let's go. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. You know, cash, car keys. That is so fucking sexy. And then, see, my legs were never firm enough to do that move. Because if it was untied enough to stay up, then my lower leg would turn blue. So that's a no for me. It was never good. It was never working on me. So I love it on other women. It's like so hot. I like it because I can wear it butt naked. It's awesome. Yeah. You know, your ID in there and your money and you're good to go. Yeah, I strip with it. I fuck with it. Awesome. Oh, I need one of those. Can I fit my e-cig in there? I mean, I put my phone behind it sometimes. Awesome. There's no elastic on it. It's just all leather. No, she's just a firmly muscular, perfectly proportioned, perfectly healthy 24-year-old person who has that lovely 24-year-old flesh thing happening. Pole dancing. That too. I dance with the pole. I never danced on the pole, but I would use it as a swing partner. During the height of my day, I would have got there and really shake a tail feather. And I could dance with the pole as if it were a live guy. It was pretty fun. Oh, I bet that was amazing to watch. I could never climb the pole. I was... Yeah, no. No, I climbed the pole. I did the circles around it. And I had bruises from the inner thigh down to my ankles. Oh, yeah. Right. And I could never practice enough to get past the bruising stage. And I'm also, even at the height of my working out, I'm just a little bottom heavy. No matter how... Even when I was doing a lot of upper body weights, my lower bits were just like massive. I was the original big booty white girl back in the day. And my lower half was just too heavy for my upper half to lift up to the pole to the upside. No. No, no, no. But I love women who can do that. Go online and do a search on pole dancing competition. Oh, yeah. Oh, my... Oh, my God. Some of those women are just amazing. And some of them are big girls. Mm-hmm. I've seen some big girls do some amazing stuff. Amazing tricks. No, I like big girls. I like girls. I face it. Yeah. I'd rather have a girl that some people consider too big than some one that I consider too narrow. I like... I'm not into a stick with tits. No. I'm just... The skinny, scrawny girls... Do you like... Do you like... Absolutely nothing for me. If they're naturally slender and not because of an eating disorder, I'm not going to kick them out of bed because of that because they can't help being little. Yeah. But I don't look at a little body and automatically go... You're about as small, you know, because you're still nicely padded. You're slender and... But you're height and weight proportional, which is code word for no big girls, which... But big girls feel so good. You got the pretty... Like April Flores. I love her. Have you been with her yet? Not yet. Not yet. She's so fam. She falls on her back so beautifully. You'd hate that so much. And she would have a good time with you, I could tell. She's sweet. She's the prettiest vulva. The tiniest divot of a clit and a whisper of inner lips. It's just... It's just... You look... You know... Obviously, you know where the clit is because the clit's in the same place every time. Hers is so tiny, it's almost invisible. And her inner lips are just like a little drawing of one. How do you get in there to play with it? You have to hold it open or just... I think she's good at humping, too. Again, she's so small, she's so sensitive. She's a humper. She has another fat vulva. So you can really... So when you grab a fat mound, your fingertip naturally goes to the divot at the top of the lips. Right, right, right. And that's all the jerking off that you need. You don't have to put your finger in it. You can just get it into the mound and do that little tug-tug thing. Yeah. And that just jerks girls like that off like crazy. And then you do it... Actually, you'll like this one. You get your finger at the top of the cleft, hold them firmly, and whisper in the ear and say... So you're going to pull their cleft up toward their belly button back an inch. And then at the top of that, then you tell them to do their squeezes. And they'll start jerking themselves off. Because you have to hold it tight, and they're pulling it down below the underside of the clit. It's just like... I know. I'm doing it right now. I'm going, okay, I'm tightening my clit. I'm pulling it out. No, no, no, no, no. So here... Okay. No, no, I have my finger on the top of Ginger's cleft. So I'm not in... I'm still... I'm in personal territory, but not glove-necessary territory. So now when she does her Kegels... So I'm giving it... I'm giving it action from the top. And she's tugging it from below. And so... Ah. That's really cool. And what I like to... I like to tell guys this because rather than... I'm jerking my own clit off with Ginger's fingers. So instead of me having to do something to her, how's that? It's like, no, no, no, no. You provide an anchor point. And then she'll do the work. And she'll hump if she wants to hump. And so you just got to do... You can have a conversation. I can have a conversation with you. I'm totally jerking her off because she's doing all the work. Yeah. I'm just sitting here Kegeling. Yeah. And what a nice... I'm looking for the word. The word is looking for is motivation. Motivation. Yeah. That's amazing. Isn't that fun? You know so many wonderful tricks. We need to... You know, for the next Panda Porn shoot, we need you to come over and teach the girls because what to do and how to do it. At the end of the shoot... I'd love to because I can't fuck them all myself. Help me. Help me, Daisy. Please. What I did at the end was I told all the girls, when you're finished, I'm going to come in and lick all the pussies clean. Oh, you're such a giver. I know. I know. So I waited until everybody was done and I went around the room and licked the different pussies. And every girl that I went to was like, oh my God, she knows how to lick pussies. She's like, I lick it like I want mine licked. Hello. Exactly. Somebody said, I make love to a pussy. Yeah. Yeah. I do. That's what it's called. That's what it's called. Evolve a worship, you know. Anybody can get in there and lick it and stick your tongue in it and do the... But to get in there and worship it... Do not finger fuck... Do not tongue fuck my pussy. Please. Please. Please. Just don't. Weird. Just don't. Isn't it though? Just don't. So many people do that. Especially if there's stubbles. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. I like a tongue running from my taint up in between my pussy lips. With a little at the end like ice cream. And when you get to the clit, you stop at the top. But I like that full lick from the taint all the way up. Not from my ass, but from my taint all the way to the top. And taint's a good place for punching too. I love taint punching. It's really great. So... Fuck, fuck, fuck. It's really nice. Especially if you're making the girl masturbate her clit while you're... I got women who go squirt like crazy. I'm sorry, it wasn't a girl. Pardon me. Pardon me, Jizz. Jizz is they. When I worked with Jizz for... Crash Pad, episode 100. Episode 100? Yeah, I got to be with Jizz. Who is Jizz? Jizz is a genderqueer... Jizz is the genderqueer love of all the queer girls' lives. So they are female bachelors. They're all bodied, but they identify as they. They have a multitude of gender expressions in them. They are hot. They're a great switch. They're equally at home in receptive or active mode. Has an impish pixie face. The face is very intergendered. So it could be a boy, it could be a girl. The body... Very Peter Pan. The body is very much a fabulous, healthy, athletic double X genome. So the body says... Jizz is often they're just great. So in a third person, it is third person. And then instead of Ms. or Mr., it's MX, so Mixley MX, which is gender. Oh, so now I'm totally confused. I know they look like a girl. With clothes on, they look very gender indeterminate because their hair is short and they don't wear makeup. And so if the clothes are bulky enough, you wouldn't automatically know what gender they were. So is it kind of like a hot dyke-y lesbian? Like if I go to a girl bar and I see somebody that I can't quite tell, but you know they're a girl, but they look like a boy too? And also when you see someone who you're not sure, here's what we say. Hello, my name's Ginger. What's your name? And what gender pronoun do you prefer? Because you can't tell by looking. What if they say Pat? And they can say, hello, Pat, I'm Ginger. Yeah, but I still don't know if you're a boy or a girl. But you ask what gender pronoun. What gender pronoun do you prefer? So I have seen people who have girl parts who prefer to be called he. And I know people who have boy parts, air quotes, who feel she. So sex is between your legs. Gender is between your ears. So they identify as they. As queer. That word's called gender queer. So they don't identify as a he or a she. They identify as they. They're very fluid. They can just tap into whatever. They're very flowy. As an erotic performance partner, they're the top five I've ever had because they're so right in the moment. They're gorgeous. And I find them very attractive. And they like a lot of different things. And I can switch with this person. It's very hard for me to take the follow ship role in a sex scene. Is the person that you've had sex with that's been so fantastic, are they born as a woman or are they born as a man? I'm jizz. Jizz is gender. ah just so jizz's body has breasts of all of a nice round ass and very little body hair so jizz so if you did not know and you saw jizz naked you go girl and a very nice girly girl at that because they're curvy they're healthy they swim they exercise they have a lot of sex they're a dancer they do theater so they're very fit and fabulous um so do i say they is fucking hot yeah he said they're hot jizz is hot they are hot jizz is really hot is there more yeah and good at fisting oh jizz jizz is good at fisting either side of fisting so if i was gonna be fisted i would i would certainly pick jizz as a first because their hands are small enough and i trust them enough right right right right i know right they're pretty fucking awesome they're amazing Amazing. And the proportions are great. They're just, yeah. Yeah, so yeah. So, Jizz, if you're listening, we love you. Wow, I'd like to meet Jizz. You know what? I'm sure Jizz would do a phone-in, and you can talk more about it, because they're very open about their situation. They know that they're exotic, fantastic, amazing, and wonderful. Let's get Jizz on for Monday. Do they know how popular they are? I think so. Okay, good. Yay. Yeah. That's good. I appreciate that. Because they're amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. I love the Jizz. This is amazing. And you can follow Jizz online at Jizz Lee on Twitter. J-I-Z-L-E-E. Jizz Lee. Is Jizz local? In San Francisco. So you get to live in the same city as them. Boom. I'm actually shooting Crash Pad next weekend. Who's your partner? Elenova. Don't know her. You're going to have so much fun. Have you shot Crash Pad before? Yeah, once. Yeah. I've done it. So what is Crash Pad? Is it a company? Pink and White Productions is a queer-centered, female-run adult company. The kind that you and I like to work for. They're very ethical. They are super clean in their boundaries. And they pay people in their respect in a safe working environment. And making sure you're working with people that you like working with. And so the Crash Pad conceit is that there's this apartment in San Francisco, you see. And if you're in the know, you know where the key is, you see. And so you can meet other people for hookups, you see. And then it's just like, what happens here stays here, you see. Crash Pad. I get it. So I love it because it's no, hi, we're on a date. Hi, I'm your parole officer. Hi, you're my stepdaughter. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hello, hello. We're here for sex. But you find a key. So somebody goes and finds a key. The conceit is those in the know have access to this apartment, which is basically a bang apartment. So they're there to have sex and go. It's the Crash Pad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have to just plant keys and put people together and see what happens. You are an evil little fuck. It's awesome. I love that idea. What's behind door number two? Right. So Crash Pad works, it started off primarily lesbian, but it now works with all alternative gender expressions. So there are trans men, trans women, genderqueer, genderfuck. I'm a straight. I call myself a lesbian, identified bisexual. And I play a femme on TV. I play a girl on TV. because, let's face it, thank God, bio guys are, as a general rule, pretty easily impressed by a femme presentation. I like that. It makes my job easier. And I like showing my ass to people. I'm an exhibitionist, so it's like, that's a win-win. Right. Wait, wait, wait. I like showing myself off, and they like looking, and they'll pay. Sign me up. Where can I have this job? Oh, my God. This is awesome. And in San Francisco, of course, I started at the, I started at Cinema is Now Defunct, but that was my first sex job was, I won the amateur contest because I was clearly the only amateur that day. I look at the pictures. Oh, my God. But my reward was a job in the Peep Show with a girl named Sunny, and it was a round room painted white with a revolving bed, and then mirrors with tip slots, handles around the room, like six windows. And then if you look through the one-way glass, there was a chair, a wastebasket, a light bulb, and paper towel dispenser. And so for my first job, it was awesome. I got to be with real girls, girl-girl toys, live, hardcore girl-girl toys from San Francisco. And instead of dancing at men, I was dancing at myself in the mirror, so I learned how to pose. I learned how to make myself look good. I learned how to perform in a very low, and then tips would come out the little slots. You'd go over and dance in front of it, and if a, you know, if I ever came up, you'd put your, you'd hold on the handle to put your feet up on the wall and bring that cookie right to the glass. And then if the guys wanted you to see them, they'd turn the light on and masturbate behind the, so you could see through. And I love watching, I love watching, I love watching boys jerk off. And it's fascinating. I just fucking love it. I love it. Oh, my God. And then, so at the end of each set, it'd be like a four-song set, and I'd end up on the bed, and oh, my God, I had to go to work and eat pussy. No, stop. Stop it. How would you know if a man was in there? Is it only when the attempt came through? Yeah, exactly. So you could be dancing and nobody might even be there? Right. But it was a live girl-girl sex show. There were guys there every show. Okay. Yeah, it's definitely, they come in, the show times are bonk, bonk, bonk, so you know, okay, I can come in right at the end of lunch, catch the 12.30 show, be out there at 12.40, at 12.50, and back at my office having dropped a load. And you didn't get dizzy going around in circles? No, the bed was one of those slow, one of those big, giant, very, like, one revolution a minute. I mean, it wasn't a spinning bed. It was a revolving bed stand. Right. It was just not. But I love that. You fly off. But I like it because instead of you having to keep moving to show that, if you just stayed, so we could just connect with each other, and the bed would do all the turning. And then after each show, it was, you know, this is where you learn your money. You sit there, one for you, one for me. So we just, each after each set, completely down the middle. And that's where I learned to face my bills and put them in a certain order. I cannot, I cannot have money in my, I'm not a neat person. I'm very ADD, but I have to face my money and order it from. I knew someone who did them as ones, twos, threes. Yeah, absolutely. Because there's a little number where they were printed. Oh my God, I wouldn't do that, no. I would put all the ones together, all the fives together. If we're looking to get a 20, we would, you know, do that. I mean, gosh. But that was the great, a great first job because very low stress. It was a peep show. I didn't ever work, I did get to be the naked girl at the Lusty Lady once. And that was totally. I worked at Lusty too. What's the naked girl? Well, the Lusty Lady was a union, a woman owned and run union shop, the only union stripper shop in all of the country. And so there was the, the peep room, which you go into a booth, put in money, window goes up and there's girls dancing in a room. Right. And then if you put money in and they'll come to you and dance, it's closer. So that was strictly, and then the window goes up and down depending on how much. But talk to a live nude girl was, you go to, so I would go to a little booth, which was high off the ground, like chest high. And it was like four feet tall. So you could sit up in it if you couldn't stand up in it. And it had pillows and Kleenex and the plexiglass and a tip slot and you did intercom. And so a guy would come in, close the door, lock it, and then you're alone with a live nude girl. You're completely safe. Like you're in an aquarium. He cannot get to you physically. Okay. But it's completely visually private and auditorily private. You can talk in a private conversation. No one's listening from the outside. Right. And no one else can see in. So you can be this close, but there's just this, you know, and it was awesome. So I get to watch guys masturbate. Oh, I loved it. I got to masturbate while people watched. Oh darn, I had to show my pussy off again. So they would pay X amount for certain, so they would pay per minute. And then, and when their money came, when their money ran out, they would, they would, they would come down. They got us a tip. So they got to see me naked, but I was going to do anything. Play with a toy. Fuck myself with a dildo. They had to tip. Right. So what they got for their flat money was talking to a live nude girl. Okay. But they wanted me to do anything. Show me your ass. Look something in your pussy. And that was a pay thing. Okay. It was so much fun. It was so safe because just everything I liked, naked guys, real dicks, watching them masturbate. And then to be, you know, um, uh, I think, uh, uh, code white in booth two, which meant, meant the guy, instead of coming into a Kleenex, came on, came on the glass. And so the poor, the poor guy, talk about a job. I guess it'd be sleeping on the street, but the poor guy had to come in with the, you know, the Clorox and the yellow gloves and wipe, and wipe semen off, you know, it's like, what was the other codes? Oh, I've seen people lick that glass too. Yeah. Well, they, they lick somebody else's. No, they're their own. They come on the glass. Or they would just not think about it and they're like, there's pussy in front of me. And I'm like, oh, wait, didn't you just smear from before? Oh my God. And then the guys who have, who do dick tricks. Yeah. The one guy who, one guy I saw was just amazing. First, he's gorgeous. Like, tower power suit, fit body, nice, sexy body, an otter, just nice body hair, really just like, just older enough to be, oh, but not old. I think he's probably 40. And so, nice dick. I mean, he did everything you'd want in a guy. And then he would get high. Then he took, large BBs, ball bearings, and put one after another down his dick. So that means his, his urethra had been stretched. These were, these were as big as round as the tip of your pinky. I would say these ball bearings were half, up to half, it was a third inch diameter. They're, they're pretty big. And he got about 10 in them. And then jerked, and when he came, they all came out. It was just fucking wild. Wild. No, he shot them out when he came? He shot them out when he came. It's like, fuck, that is some magic dick shit, man. I've never, no guy in porno, in straight porno. Now, there may be some gay boys who can do that kind of, that's some dedicated masturbation practice there. That's, how many years did it take him to think of that, learn how to do it, and then work up to getting 10 in there. Yeah. And then have the, the semen, have your orgasm strong enough. right. Behind your jizz. To push out, to shove out. Metal balls out of your dick. It's like, yeah. Pretty, it was, anyway, that was, that was one of the best things. I want to see that. I just do, and I'm just thinking, what if you can't, how do you practice? How do you practice with that? Because once you get them down there, I don't come like I used to. How do you get them out? You start with one, and then, you know, so you don't start with 10. Clearly, this had taken him years. He might have discovered this in college. You know, he probably saw some German pornography and said, wait, I can do that. Does he still do that? I think I ejaculate back into my bladder now that I'm older. Oh, retrograde. Retrograde. Because it's not coming out like it used to. I feel it, but it's not like it used to. Yeah. Yeah, it's called retrograde. It's not harmful. Do you jerk off a lot? It's like, sometimes it comes out, and sometimes it doesn't. And I read an article where, at some point, if you play with your taint too much or too hard, you can damage something, and you end up, because I couldn't figure it out for the life of me. I'm all like, what's wrong with me? Something's, I guess I'm just old. It'd be awfully hard to damage your taint. I'm sorry, I'm not buying that. You play with your taint too much. Something's up, because it's not coming like it used to. That's just, and that's just one of them, you, you, your face may look 20, but your body says, no, dude, no, you're not 20 anymore. So just deal with it. So keep up your masturbation, though, because you want to keep that prostate. Absolutely. And their babies come. Do they still have these booths? Still, now? Well, the lusty lady on the building was sold, and the new, the new owner shut it down, which has really broke my heart. It was a union, it was a union shop. It was amazing. You got, you got two paid stick days a year. It was one of the best jobs for strippers in the whole country. And yeah, so if I'm going to get all, women's studies on our ass, it was a, they were shut down for competition purposes. That sucks. We'll find out more about all kinds of things in just a second here. We're going to take a quick break. It's almost that time. I know. We're going to take a really quick break here on Blame It on Ginger. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Right now, you know what happened? When I was younger, when I was thinner, younger, like I said, I wasted my skinny years. When the guys were after me, I said no. And now that I'm like, okay, I'm horny. Let's just do this. They play games. And I'm like, it's switched on me now. So now I'm just like annoyed. Even with Grindr? Hmm? Even with Grindr? Those boys on Grindr just play games for the most part. How annoying. Yeah. There's been a couple. It's always one-on-one. The real hookups really happen in person. Yeah. It's like the cruising right there and then. So do you like boys who are younger than you or men who are older? I don't care as long as they're just alive. As long as they have a heartbeat. Just have a heartbeat and be, you know. Yeah. And be sexual. All that, yeah. And meet strange people. Strange people. I'm sorry. That sucks. Yeah. Well, let's see if you know what normal people are like. Oh, right. Let's see what the average Joe. I see what normal people are. But I think the average Joe lies a lot when they do these surveys. Oh, yeah. But we'll find out. No. Yeah. Oh, no. I think they do. I think they lie and they say what you think that you want to hear. All right, Daisy, what's a question for Stevie? So this one is my favorite. How many people do you think that answered this survey have had sex in a public location? Oh, God. This is hard because all my sex is in public. So I'm going to say what's normal. That's why I like this one. So is it 32.6 percent? Eighty nine percent or 70.3 percent? Oh, gosh. OK, for people admitting it, I'm just going to have to go 32 percent. I would go 70 is my real choice. But for stepping out of my shoes, trying to be a little bit more uptight, I would say 32 percent admitted to having sex in public. Believe it or not, 70.3 percent admitted to having sex in public. Awesome. I'm normal. My normal question worked. You were right. But I tried to be more conservative. You were trying to be more conservative. But the average person, 70 percent have had sex in public. I have. Awesome. I have sex in public all the time. I don't do it anymore because that getting arrested thing really doesn't work for me. But back in my younger days, it was quite once my boyfriend pulled my bathing suit aside and did spooning in the backyard on a mattress. And I just, someone might be watching from, I was, it was so fucking, plus I was like 21 at the time, so it was hot anyway because I didn't have any sex at all. But I realized, oh my God, the idea outdoors, had a really nice cock. I didn't hate him yet. And he hadn't been yet, so I still was still my hot lover. He wasn't my boyfriend yet, which, you know. Changes everything. And the idea that somebody might be watching just made it over the top. Awesome. I find cameras now, though, because I used to love to have sex at the mission because there were these great, at the old mission, 1892 or something, there's great little places. And I looked up and I saw a camera and I went, that's new. That's no good. The other spot, I saw another camera and I went, well, no more sex at the mission anymore. No. Getting arrested for public indecency, then if you get convicted, then you have to be a registered sex offender. It messes with your life. Oh, you're a registered sex offender now? No, no. No, but if you get convicted of public indecency, if you get caught. Yeah. If you get caught. But they've got those cameras everywhere. It's like, no, it's not worth it. Yeah, and I can find them everywhere. I walk around in places where I used to go and find new cameras and I'm like, all right. No more of that. You really do have to be careful. Nick and I do have, we have sex outside, but a lot of times, like, we get up really early in the morning before anybody else in the household, so we'll have sex sitting outside in the chairs. Oh, that's nice. No, that's the real backyard, yeah, and you're not super loud because if you're a quiet humper, we're not, you know what, there's times when I'm more loud than others, but in general, I'm not the, ah, ah. Okay, do you want to pull still skin? I don't have, my orgasms are, sometimes after several of them, I'll get really loud when I'm getting fanged or fucked. Several of them. It's just amazing to think of orgasms. But I'm not. I want a week, it's amazing. It's just several. Wow. I know, and when I say my prayers and I make wishes for people, I wish that you could have multiple orgasms. Just to see what, just to see, I think would make me not as good a top because I get too distracted. One thing about being, I'm a great top because I get aroused, but I don't get distracted by my vulva. Do, even when you're masturbating, you can't have multiple orgasms? I try. I tried for 20 years to teach myself to be multi-orgasmic and all it did was teach me that I'm not, but it did. The benefit was my, the orgasm and the pleasure I have is longer, deeper, stronger, more. I can hang out in the pleasure zone without retreating, for as long as I want to now. So I now, I do now have pleasure without shame. That was the thing I had to work past, you know, the shame-based thing that the culture puts on people. So mindful masturbation, masturbating on purpose to get into my body was a wonderful thing and in the trying to teach myself to be multi, I failed at that. After 20 years, I realized, you know what, you're just not. I've had four multiple orgasms in my life and that's been, so you know, the whole orgasm phase, both, all four have been at a heightened, heightened sensitivity and I had what was usually, would usually be a good enough orgasm and I could tell, wow, there's still a bit more there and I had another hump. So it didn't go all the way down and then all the way back up again but I stayed there and that's been all four, all with earnest. Oh good. So clearly there's an emotional component to letting go enough to be la la la la la and it hasn't happened for 10, for five or seven years. It's not, but we don't try for that. And my one orgasm is so strong, it's like, I'm fine, done, done, done, done. No, good, good. We're good here. We're good. We're really good here. Do you just keep going? No, no, don't keep going because I'll say a word in a heart fucking beat. Like, okay, what part of get your fucking hand off my clit are you not listening to? It's like Dom's who think they can, like force orgasm. It's like, no, no, no. A coax orgasm, you cannot force an orgasm on me. It's like, eh, that's a no. No, what about like the other night listening, I couldn't because we were shooting in 360. I couldn't be in the room so I couldn't watch people fucking. So it was really, really, but I was sitting in my living room which is, it's only, it's, you know, listening distance away and I'm hearing six women fucking and having orgasms and my pussy is just rocking. I'm sitting there and I'm looking at my boyfriend and I'm like, oh, I want to fuck right now. I want to put it in his leg. No, because I wanted to go in there and have sex with the girls. Anyway, I definitely, my, I know that I'm not a closed off person because when I am assisting somebody, I get very engorged, very wet, I get very turned on and then my orgasm takes five minutes instead of three minutes. It's 35 minutes. So, I am there with you but I don't need it directed at me. That's, you know, and for, I don't care anymore why the reasons are. It doesn't matter. us being kids and not having an ejaculation and being able to have as children having those orgasms. As boys of energy orgasms, right? And so once the squirting starts with, I think, boy bodied, male bodied people is, they forget, they forget that orgasm and ejaculation are physiological separate events but once you hit sexual maturity, they usually happen at the same time. They feel like one and the same but once men, if the men care to do their homework and it's a lot of masturbation, they can separate, they can tease apart squirting and coming and then men can be multi-orgasmic. That's the article I just read. I was trying, I can't remember it. So they can have orgasms without the ejaculation. And so they, after those orgasms, they often get soft, like 20% softer for a few minutes but they rate back up as opposed to all the way limp and an hour of nothing. This is like, so men can, it takes a lot of discipline but a lot of fun. That sounds pretty amazing. Or a guy, if a guy can last an hour before coming, that's as good. The key is how do I stay in the pleasure zone? No thinking of dead babies, no thinking of mathematics, no thinking of granny panties but actually, man, this fucking rocks for an hour. That's a great place to get to physically and emotionally. That level of cock control if you are a dude out there is really appealing to your partners because if I want to, if I want to submit to somebody, they better have some fucking cock control. They better know what the fuck they're doing. I'm going to have to tie you up and just tease you or something because then we're done. But that's fun too. Well, let's get Stevie some punishment. I think you get your booty spanked. Oh, I think we're all out of time. You got the best wrong, Stevie. You're adorable. Time for a little spank and pull that, you know, it can't be with, I sit on your lap? No, bend over. You have to bend over, baby. But not through your jeans, at least down to your underwear. Oh. You're wearing underwear, right? You're wearing shorts. Are you wearing underwear? No, no, no. I'm a firm believer. No, I'm a firm believer. No, I don't ever want to embarrass anybody. Yeah. Can I turn this way? Well, she's going to spank you, honey, so put your ass toward. You got a cute boy. You got a cute booty. There you go. Look at that. Oh, she's bending him over her lap. We've got, oh my God. We're using his ass, take some. Stevie's getting spanked. I think, oh, and he's wiggling and jiggling. There you go, Stevie. Woo. Woo. Yay. Woo. You should have gone with your first instincts, baby. What was my first instinct? Your first instincts were what you like, which is 70% of the people have sex in public. Oh. You would have gotten the answer correct. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. See, I gauge everything by Facebook, so if I post something on Facebook, I mean, I don't have a lot of people on there, but if there's like 30 people, then everybody's like on it, but if I have the picture of me in the Panaporn shirt, and then the picture of me and there's like three likes, I'm like, okay, I know you guys are all seeing this. If I put a picture of me and drag up for Halloween, which I hadn't done in six years, everybody likes it, so I know, okay, they're seeing everything that I'm posting. The Panaporn shirt. The Panaporn got about like three, and I went, my friends are really freaky. They run around, they have threesomes, they do all this, but they won't like this. They watch me. Well, Panaporn is so new. I mean, I'm just now hearing the name of the company. But he's talking about anything that's sexual, in essence, at all. They don't put likes on Stevie. It's the blinders are on. But with him in drag, that was fine. And I'm like, what's they, and then I got weirded out. I thought, my friends are weird. They're liking this picture. What's that about? You do look really good as a girl, Stevie. No, no, I bet he does flawless drag. No, I bet you do flawless drag. But it was so strange as far as, and then putting up the Panaporn with all of us in the line of us by the camera. Right. So should I go mark down December 4th? December 4th, by the way? December 4th to come in for Richard Pacheco? Yes. Yeah, got it. Yes. Richard Pacheco. Yeah, so, I don't know. I'm curious. It's interesting. But that's why I chose the conservative because I was trying to step into the people. Let's see if we can stump Sparky really quick. It's got to be a really fast one. Okay. I'll just like close my eyes and I'll pick one. Okay. That's not an answer. That's not a question. Okay. Page two. Here we go. What percentage, I don't even get this because I wasn't supposed to read it beforehand. So I'm kind of looking at it right now trying to figure this out. Okay. What percentage of people have admit that they've watched another couple have sex? Okay. Is it 48.7%? 89.3%. Okay. Or 14%. I'm going to say 14. 14. No. It's 37.4. Did I say that one? No. Oh, Stevie. We can't take you anywhere. Look, we're out of time. Daisy Ducati, thank you so much for coming in and being such a gracious guest today. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We loved playing with you. I hope that you had a good time. What is your website again? DaisyDucati.com. It's D-A-I-S-Y-D-U-C-A-T-I.com. Like the Italian motorcycle. DaisyDucati.com. She is as sleek as a Ducati. Yes, she is. And your Twitter? It's just at DaisyDucati. Spelled the same way. DaisyDucati. I want to thank you so very much. Did you have a good time, pretty girl? Yes, I did. We loved it. And thank you for fisting me. Thank you for allowing me. I will be your organic provider at the end of the day. At any time you ask, I'm an excellent service bottom or service top, whatever. Can I be in the room while you come? I'll help. Hold your hair, hold your coat, hold your feet, hold the lube. I'll be part of it too. Exactly. I just like being in the room. That was one of the hottest things that I've seen in a long time. That was beautiful. And having your hands up there really helped. Yeah. Because it's like having four hands. Exactly. You hated it. It was awful. It was terrible. Sorry to put you through such pain and agony. We'll let the puppy go now. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you, Nina. I love you. I'll see you next week. See you next week. Follow Nina at Nina Land. Yep. And Sparky, thank you for coming in. It's always good to have you. You were very quiet today. Thank you. Oh, yeah. I just got a lot on my mind. That's all right, baby. We love having you here no matter what. Thank you. Thank you, Stevie. Thank you, everyone. And thank you especially for listening. We'll be back tomorrow on Blame It On Ginger. Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Live a life of sin I wanna be like ginger In la-da-dee, la-da-die Surrender to the force That lies within I wanna be like ginger In la-da-dee, la-da-die