Guest Taylor (Neverender) discusses music, drums, and NAMM show

You got a lot of fucking gummy worms up in here. Too many gummy worms already in the hot box. How many gummy worms you got in your mouth? I got 20 fucking gummy worms in my mouth. 20, 800, 893, 9562. You're in the hot box. Hot box. www.skidrowstudios.com Look for the hot box. Listen to the hot box. If you're listening on the internet and you go on Facebook, there's a picture of Mary's butt in my face. There is actually. It was a group effort. We were trying to show off the merch provided by our wonderful host. And we also were trying to show you a little love in here. I put my butt in Mindy's face almost every single time I see her. It's how we say hello. It happens frequently. It does. So let us introduce our guest. We've got... We've got Neverender here to fucking dazzle us with some sick ass beats. Some awesome shit. Welcome. Welcome to the studio. His name is Taylor. Taylor. Hi. Hi. I have a variety of stuff to play. And most of it's mine and some of it's not. All right. Well, let's get down to it, man. Do you want to start out with a quick DJ set to get these listeners in the mood? All righty. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Oh, sweet. How was the tour? It was really, really fun. And we worked so hard putting it together that after that tour, I decided I had to work on some non-Never Ender projects for a while. So that's why I did Homunculus and Gripped. That's pretty much the sweetest thing ever is that another thing I just kind of remembered, but I was about to ask you if Ming and Ping were twins. They are. Because the famous Siamese twins were, I think it's Chang and Ang, but they're in, there's a, is it Freaks? Yeah, Todd Browning's Freaks, that one movie. But when you said Ming and Ping, I immediately thought of the two Siamese twins. And so I literally was just like, that would be pretty sick though if two Siamese twins got down together and made music, like made electronic music together. That would be sick. That would be awesome. I mean, like, I mean, they would have the same, like the same, they'd have more brain power, but the same like amount of hands. So like a live show would still be, you know, but still, I mean, that'd be, I don't know. Like if you're always hanging out together, you could make music together. That's true. You're always going to, I mean, like, when are you ever going to not have time to like do something together? No, I just, I just, I don't know how I could fit it in my schedule. Yeah, really? You're like, I'm supposed to be in Denver. I'm supposed to be in Denver like, like for two weeks. I can't really. I'm supposed to be making music and going on the road with you, Siamese twins. Siamese twins, sorry. Actually, surgery is scheduled for a week from now so that I can go to Denver. That's what's going to happen. Yeah. That'd be the kind of Siamese twin I'd be. Get off me. There's a 20% chance you might not make it. I'm all right. Oh, zing. I'm all right. I'm paying for the surgery. Yeah. You and I should just start dressing up like Siamese twins and just like do that act and just like one of us. Like threatens the other one. Like we'll walk around in the same sweatshirt for a day and see what happens. Yeah. Yeah. We'll just like, like, yeah, like wrap, like wrap the sweatshirt so that it's like, you know, like a cardigan. We can do an experiment. I can try to play drums with you. You could be my left hand. I'll be like, hit that. Hit that. Hit that. Hit that. Yeah. Right now. Right now. Anytime you ever want to say that to me, you're more than welcome to. Hit my drum. All about hit that. Yeah. No. Yeah. So we got too many gummy bears, gummy worms. Yeah. We have too many gummy worms in the hot box. We have three. Well, now we just have two bags, but neither one of them is open, but still two bags worth of gummy bears. And there were three and it's only been like maybe 15 minutes of hot box time. That means it's a good show. Why did those gummy worms disappear so quickly? I don't know. Because I put 20 of them in my mouth. Why are we so hungry? We'll never know. Yes. I think we'll never, never know. So I got this question. What's this cool magic core sticker here? Magic core. It's, it's a way of life. It's, I like that it's magic core because I feel like that should be, that should have already been the adjective for magical. Like, like the minute I heard it, I was like magic core. It's perfect. Yeah. Magic. It's actually, um, it's a couple of different things. It's, um, it's the name of this imaginary genre of music that I made. It's a name that I made up and I tried to make and I hope other people will make someday. And it's also the name of a blog where myself and four other bloggers post free albums from all over the world. And that is magiccore.us. Dot us. Um, would you ever, would you ever sue if somebody, if some like, like wizard lady slut had like magic horror.com? Like, would you be mad? Like, would you be mad at her? Like she's like, she ripped you off. You know, like it's spelled out. It's totally different. Right. And like, even saying that, but like, would you, would you sue? Like, do you not want a magic whore? No, I think that the magic whore and the magic core could peacefully coexist. Yeah. Yeah. Cause there's tons of room for whores. Right. Yeah. It'd be fine. And there's tons of room for different cores, but there's no magic core yet. Whores and cores. Yeah. Whores and cores. No, wait. Whores. A new type of music. Whore core. Whore core. We gotta start that, Mary. We are whore core. We are whore core. Thank you for showing us the light. You're welcome. She's been making beats and I've been singing about chewing on the balls. So like, and these are real things that are, that are cracking off. Like the real stuff. Finally we have. What we got going on. We got a core. We have a core. Yes. Oh God. Now chewing on the balls has a, has a, has a name. Is that how you felt when you came up with magic whore? Like, like you felt like you had a magic whore. Like you felt like you were like, yes, like I will do well here now that I have, now that you have like a name for what you play or were you more mad and punished yourself by beating yourself in the head? Why? Why did I do this to myself? No, I think I'm pretty into it. I like that idea. The thing that's really weirded me out in the couple of, been three years since I think I coined that term is trying, my definition of it has gotten more. More and more vague where I'm like, yeah, I guess that kind of works. Cause originally it was, um, a combination of metal, rave music and Japanese pop music that has a concept story of an imaginary universe with like characters and settings. Yeah. That's actually totally. That's, that's very narrow. Yeah. You started out, you started out like with like larger. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it may or may not exist. It's this song. You know what? You didn't hear this song. It's that magic core. Yeah. It's kind of like that. Yeah. It's pretty awesome. Do you ever like bone to your music? I always ask that about musicians because it's like you play music. Like, do you ever like listen to it when you're like getting frisky? It may have happened at some point, but I wouldn't say that I've done it intentionally. Oh, like the music was just on? Yeah. And it wasn't like you were like, you know what? Basically what he's saying is he fucks so much that just probability, chances are his music was playing at some point during that massive fuck fest that he's had. Yeah. No. And you know what? That makes more sense. MP3s on shuffle. You put, you know, seven days worth of iTunes on and, you know, you're just getting, you know, you're fucking and sucking until the broad daylight. A lot of music, a lot of shuffling, a lot of rotation. Like I can think of the personality type. Types of dudes that obviously fuck to their own music. Oh, yeah. I can. I can imagine that too. Man o' war. Man o' war. I hope they do. I fuck to their music. Loin cloths and all. No, I had a guy once like I told you about it where he like played a song naked on his guitar and like sang to me. Oh, that's so romantic. But it was like first thing in the morning, like after like a long ass night of like long ass night times. And I literally like I was like. Oh, it was like an acoustic guitar and he was like maybe like maybe a foot away from my face and I was like belly like down on like face into the pillow and all of a sudden it's like . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . All I remember is it said a lot of like, beautiful. You're so beautiful. But like, that's all I remember because that was like the first. You're so beautiful. It's like, you swallowed my cum and you looked real nice. You're so beautiful. That's how it went. Whoa, core whore. Yeah, whore core. It's great. Can't ever read it right. Now we have to come up with like horrible, horrible names. Whore core. I think I wrote something about like, well, we're going to write about Planny P, the Planned Parenthood. Get up on your dick or something. Yeah. Yeah, see, we've got a couple. We've got some good choices. I wrote a song bitching out my neighbor that always bitches about me playing my electronic drum set. She should just be happy I'm not playing my real drum set. Yeah, most people should be happy if they live right next door to you and they're trying to get some shut eye because if you had your real drums like set up right now in your apartment. Oh man. Shit, it would be like. I am always tempted to play my saxophone. Like I need to bring my saxophone into the studio. I didn't know you had, you played sax. I do. Definitely bring that in. Yeah, I'll add some jazz tracks. Can you dress like Lisa Simpson for that time when you come in? Just like a Lisa Simpson, like the little pearls and then just walk up and down the street. Playing sax? Yeah, because you could do that. You could do that for fun. I think I saw Bleeding Gums Murphy out on the street right before we walked in. Yeah, we should. Do I have a sax competition out there? Someone else taking all the sax. You should. You should go. I mean, you should go corner to corner with some fool that's like playing the sax and like two of you just like duke it out. Like have a sax off. And Skid Row. Skid Row, Skid Row sax off. I know like every song from the Lion King. They'd wait for a stranger. Dude, you're fucking dark, man. I know like, I got Can You Feel the Love Tonight down. So romantic. I need to serenade my boyfriend soon. Do it when he wakes up. Do it first thing in the morning when he's asleep. I'll do like, can you feel the love tonight? Or do it, do it like, like turn off all the lights when you guys are about to go to bed and then just pick it up from a secret location and then just stand over him on the mattress and just play Can You Feel the Love Tonight? You can't play saxophone quietly though. Yeah, exactly. It's like air sound really loud. Yeah. That's my really bad saxophone impression. That was your, I thought that was just you having a seizure. Yeah. Oh, it's the cutest seizure ever. Aw. Aw. So I figure what we'll do is since these gummy worms need to be eaten first and foremost and the greens need to lit. And the green, yeah. Mommy needs her greeny greens and so does daddy. Daddy doesn't want to wait too long. We're going to do what we do best here at the Hot Box, which is rock your world. Have our wonderful guest play some songs. So enjoy it. Enjoy it. And enjoy your greens. Please eat your greens and smoke your greens. For us. Drink plenty of water. Go get yourself a glass right now. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Ending transmission. You are just listening to Magikar. Rockin'. Welcome back to the hotbox here at Skid Row Studios. This is the place where we like to time travel. We like to talk about time travel. Space time continuum. Come with us now on a journey through time and space. The musical journey. Of space time. Of space time, yes. Space time and music, they're all the same thing. It's very, very true. Interwoven by vibrations. Have you ever noticed how like sometimes when you're listening to music, your perception of time will be severely warped? I do. It's really strange. Yeah, no, if you just spent five minutes, just standing still, like without listening to anything, it would feel like probably more like 10 minutes. But you could listen to a song that like a five minute song or music for five minutes and it feels like it was just a minute. Like that one song, Hybrid Moment, the Misfits one. I always listen to it twice in a row, almost every time. Unless it's like coming on on like Pandora or whatever. Like I don't have a chance to like listen to it twice. This is so good. But it's so good, but it's so fleeting. Like it's not. It's like maybe like a minute and like a minute and 45 seconds maybe or two minutes and 10 seconds. Yeah, it's really short. Super short. So I always end up listening to it twice in a row. But like if I just stood there for four minutes or however long it takes to listen to it twice, I'd be bored as hell. And it would seem like way longer. I noticed this thing with drumming where I'm a drummer and so practicing along with a metronome, sometimes it'll feel like I suddenly like, like it feels like it's slower than what, it really is. And then it'll feel like it's faster, which obviously is probably just me like wanting to speed up. But I almost use the concept of time travel to like help myself get faster because if I relax and take deep breaths and like kind of like try to slow my mind, I'm able to play faster because I'm more relaxed. That's cool. Also, this is like weird math stuff, but I've figured out how drumming is like, time traveling and my right arm is older than my left arm because when I play drums, my right arm moves around from symbol to symbol a lot more. And with Einstein's theory of relativity. So like if you have two bouncing balls bouncing the same, but one standing still and the others on a train, when they stop, they're not gonna be bouncing the same. So almost seems like, even though like my right hand is moving from drum to drum, it feels like it's going. It's traveling. Lower than the left hand. And the left hand has to go faster because it's giving it momentum. So that's why my right hand is like time traveling versus my left hand. It is technically older. Yeah. So you've got, wait, so which hand's older, the right one? The right one, because it has been traveling space a lot more than the left. The left one, since it's like primarily sticking with the snare, it's like not traveling the space. It's in the same space. That's really deep. Yeah. I don't know. I need to write, I wanna write a paper on it. I'm just such a, I hate writing, but I'm good at it. I hate it. I hate writing, but I'm good at it. You're good at everything that you do though. Like literally, like I've never seen you do, like do something shitty or like be like disappointed and you're in the outcome. You've never seen me dance. I've never seen you. You've never seen me sing a song. Well bands to make you dance, bands to make you dance. I'll get you to dance. There's plenty of things I can do bad. Well, it just depends on the dance. Like what if I told you to do the wounded Turkey? You could do that. I can do the lawn mower. Yeah. The fax machine, you could dance. You could dance. Cause if, cause you can drum. So you have to be able to dance. I can dance if I want to. You could leave your, leave your clothes behind. My world. I'd like to leave my clothes behind. You can leave your clothes behind. That's what it is, right? I think it's leave your friends behind. Oh, your friends behind? Cause if your friends don't like it, they don't dance. And if they don't dance. Cause I thought it was cause it's men without, men without hats. I thought they were saying like, take your hats and shirts off. I've been singing like that forever. That makes sense. You leave your clothes behind. You know that, that Radiohead song, no alarms and no surprises. Yes. For the longest time. I thought it was saying, cause it says no alarms and no surprises, please. Or silence. Okay. For the longest time. I thought it was saying, no alarms and no surprises, salad. I've totally done that before. I was like salad. Salad. It's so deep. That's so confusing. Radiohead. It's all about the vegetables. I actually, I've probably listened to like, like every, not every Radiohead album, like the last two or three, I haven't heard, I haven't heard as much of, but like the first three or four, like, um, I've listened, listened to them a lot, but for instance, Kid A, I know very few of the lyrics just because they're so, they're, they're, they're all recorded differently. And some of them are just like one word that he just draws out for a really long time. And so when I go back, I'm like, did I just, did I even hear this song correctly? Like there's one on, I can't, fuck. There's a song that's on, that's on rock band. That's really hard of theirs to do. Like they have creep on there, but that one's, I think everybody knows the lyrics to that one, or can at least, I think everybody knows the lyrics to that one, or can at least, I can read them if you're playing rock band. Yeah. But there's one on there that I cannot believe. Oh, it's the one that's like, you can try the best you can. I don't know what it's called. It's on Kid A, but it like, that song has some- The best you can is good enough. Yeah, but I don't remember what it's called. It's called some, like, it's not anything in the song. I think it's the Optimist or something. Yeah, I think it's Optimistic. Yeah. And so like, that is a difficult song. That one's really fun to play on guitar actually. I bet guitar would be fun, but Guitar Hero maybe not. What, like, tell us a little bit about your setup, your gear. This is what we want to know here at the Hotbox. I just, I'm pretty stoked, because I just acquired this 1987 Casio MG510, which is a, I've been a Stratocaster with a built-in Casio MIDI controller. And so I've been using that with Ableton and making some pretty crazy sounds. It's fun, but I haven't quite incorporated how I'm going to use it live yet. Oh yeah. But it's also a guitar, like a real regular guitar. So like, you can do stuff like run the guitar audio back to the computer and then control effects on the audio with the MIDI output from the guitar. Oh, cool. Yeah. Are you into that or not? You're all noncommittal. You're like, all right, you know, I could see me doing that. I could see me plugging guitar into my audio. Yeah. Well, you've got like your- I'm into Tom. I really like messing with the effects. Yeah, you have like the beat machine and shit, yeah. And the effects, mass effects at all times. I love chorus. Chorus is a dope effect. I love chorus. Do you ever fuck around with like turntables or anything, or are you mostly like with your soundboard and laptop? I use this MIDI controller called the X-Session and it's got a little crossfader and a bunch of knobs. Yeah. It works. Another thing I like about this, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know if you've heard about this, but I don't know, but I think I've been, I used to have a U-Rock guitar and it's kind of like a keyboard more than a guitar. It's actually a rock band controller. And one thing that you can do with that that's interesting is assign different songs to different keys on the frets. And then you can kind of do like instant mashups by playing on the fretboard. And it looks like the rock band setup where it's like maybe like five or six, like, oh, it's an actual like, oh. You can use it. Oh, with five- But each button has a different song instead of having a different like- Well, you can assign it, cause it's got, it outputs MIDI to the computer. So you can just assign, oh, this MIDI note is this. How many buttons does it have? I think 22, if it's like a 22, I don't know. I think it's like a 22 fret. 22 button U-Rock guitar, guys, don't test. Well, it's six fake strings and then there's all the frets like it was a guitar. Sweet. Fuck. Well. But I broke that on the first, the second show of tour. On purpose? No, on accident. No. Cause unfortunately it's not really made in such a way that you can take it on tour. So that's why I stoked I got this Casio guitar now. Cause it's like a real guitar. Oh, and you can actually take it. Yeah. You can get a nice deluxe case for it. It won't break. Well, how did it break? Did you like- I pulled the MIDI cord. Did it have snow on it? The USB cable out too much when I was dancing around, while I was dancing. I pulled the MIDI cord out too much when I was dancing around, while I was dancing. I pulled the MIDI cord out too much when I was dancing around, while I was dancing. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. Oh, you were dancing around. You're the wing male. Yeah, everybody. 20 points. You have to do like the Angus Young, like little like Chuck Berry chicken walk. At the end, you have to like swing it around your neck and back. Yeah, really. You like slide to your knees. Yeah. I don't know, man. I saw some weird shit. Like we're all getting older. We don't realize what's happening with the kids these days. There's a band that does this weird crab leg stance when they play. They're like noisy, like screamo hot topic punk. They're called Attack Attack. And they had like a video in like a YouTube corner. Like, you know how they have like the line of videos? And that was like the top one. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Because you can see it. Like the little way that they like, the little way that they stand. Like they're like plie form playing guitars. And they're in like their little like hot topic gear. But it was a music video. And that's like their thing. Their thing is to like stand a special way. Yeah, their thing is to look like they're squatting like on something. But it's just air. And they're like playing guitar. And they swing their guitars around too. But like, I don't know. Like they have, they're huge. Like I looked into it because I was like, what the hell? Like I'm not crazy, right? These are American dudes that like are doing this. Like it's not like a gimmick that's like one of those weird, like it didn't quite translate kind of gimmicks from like when other countries have a band where it's like, that's weird that they're, you know, like. What's that Viking metal band that would like always play like. Oh, there's a Viking metal. Were they American? Oh, aren't there tons of them? Yeah, like every Viking metal band. They always like swing their heads. They always like sit around. Yeah. Well. Like the windmill. I was in a metal band, so I know. Silent, wait. Not silent. Plague winds. Plague winds. Was that with all dudes? Like the black metal dudes? Yeah, that was. That's when I switched from using 2B sticks to 5A. Because it was just a better choice. Yeah, well, I went to Japanese oak, so they were like thicker. So they wouldn't break as much. And since they were thinner, I could go a little faster. But they're thick still. So they have the weight. Because I don't like the thickness. I like the weight. But now. Yeah. It's all about the. Now I use Promark Japanese oak Neil Peart signature sticks, which are kind of hard to find. But I bought a brick, so I'm good. You bought a brick? I did. A brick of sticks. A brick of sticks? Like a year ago. And I still got a good pile of sticks to choose from. Okay, wait. First of all, how often have you purchased bricks of sticks? In your lifetime? Quite a bit. That makes me so happy. Because you are like a hard-hitting fucking drummer. How many do you bring with you? When I was younger, I broke more sticks. Because I'd use. They'd be like. You shit sticks. But they would be lighter wood. Like the crappier American wood. So basically what Mindy is saying is as a top shelf drummer. I love Japanese oak. She loves Japanese oak. And she loves the weight, not the thickness. I like the weight. Don't get it twisted. I think that would describe more than just drumsticks. Yeah. I agree. I love it. That was a subtle. Yeah. You're just like. I just like the weight. Not the thickness. We never said it. Yeah, Mindy. You know what? I'm glad. And I'm glad that you know what kind of wood suits you. I know what wood I want. Yeah. And it's Japanese oak. We should just get you like somehow sponsored by Japanese oak. My trees. I would love some majestic trees sponsored me. Or Promark. Because I use your sticks. Yeah. You could go to Japan and film the commercial and be like, when it comes to wood, I like the, I prefer the weight, not the thickness. My name is Mindy and I approve this message. Japanese oak has such stronger tree fibers. They hold together against my toughest hits. Nice. You're, you're already ready for it. Yeah. I know. Been trying to. Well, I've learned some Japanese, but I'd be scared to try and talk it to anyone who's Japanese. Especially since you almost said Japanese. Cause I'd sound, I'd sound like, like a, like two year old kid learning to talk. Like me want, me Mindy. Me Mindy. Me hungry. Me drum. Me love you. What time is it? Imananji desu ka? Oh. Imananji desu ka. Tori Hanzo. Sorry. I'm ruining, ruining everything for you. I always, I always end up doing that, that just from Kill Bill. Like the one Sonny Chiba part only because the way he says his own name is so great. Like, but I don't remember any other Sonny Chiba lines. So. So that's why I did that. That's why that happened. I wasn't just making up Japanese words. I would never do that. Hey, so we're going to go to NAMM, right? I really want to go to NAMM. Oh yeah, you were going to tell me about that. Well, NAMM. Yeah. Weren't you saying you were going there for something special? Well, not, not really anything special in particular, but I think I'm going to go there. One of my friends told me he got me a pass. So that should be fun. I enjoyed it last time I went. I'm checked out a lot of the new synthesizers and stuff. There's the, the mini brute was a thing everybody was into last year, I think. Looked pretty cool. Yeah. Was it in Anaheim last year too? Yeah. I think they have it there every year. Is it always there? Yeah. I've never been there, but I've only been in the LA area like three years. I need to go and try to get my Jerome sponsorship from Zildjian. And the Japanese. Because I have already purchased five 20 inch Zildjian A custom crash cymbals. Top of the line, five of them. I've like ruined so many cymbals lives. In your, in your lifetime? I really need a new cymbal bag. I've had the same one since I was 18. And it's the leather. They're on the bottoms about to fall off. So I'm going to go plead my case to Zildjian. You should. That sounds like a good plan. Yeah. They should sponsor the hot box. They've made a killing off of you. They have. I've broken so many other cymbals. Yeah. So the name show is in Anaheim from January 24th to the 27th. And anyone that's a musician pretty much tries to go to name, right? Yeah. Yeah. Musician or like, like if you're into like the gear and stuff, like. Like what? Like what? Like what? Like what? Like what? Like what? Like what? Like what? Like what? Like what? Like what? Oh, that's a good one. Oh, that's a good one. it'd be a great opportunity to find new bands to bring on the show that's true too you can bring the audience some more info on what's going on in the music world top of the line drums because since that's what we specialize on the hot box drum talking you know what we actually do mention drums a lot I'm in the market for a new snare so I'm a customer I need to go there and someone needs to open my eyes and we should find me the perfect snare when they're closing down you can actually buy a lot of stuff for really cheap because they don't want to have to pack up all the display stuff but wait when are they closing down oh like closing down on that Monday when they're packing it up sometimes they'll sell you stuff like at a discount because they don't want to have to haul it all back plus we run a radio studio yeah I mean we actually use mics we use sound boards all kinds of equipment yeah no definitely but it'd be cool to go too because like every time anybody's ever mentioned going it just seems like it's like a bunch of cool things to check out at once as opposed to I mean and also if there's anything like new or innovative are we looking for a new council yeah do you think they have a good selection there it's different vendors and stuff I'm sure that they do yeah there's all kinds of equipment there yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah! Oh man Oh man Oh man Oh man Oh man Oh man Oh man Oh man right now. That would be cool. You have like a total little list, huh? Dude, if I was rich, like, I would have... You'd never need anything again. I'd collect every musical instrument. Do you use a double bass pedal? I do. Iron Cobra double bass pedal. Yeah. My girl. Yeah. I know all my stuff. I have a Zildjian hi-hat. Dual chain? Or single chain? I think dual chain. That's the cooler one. Yeah, I make sure I got it. You passed the test, Mindy. I was like, let me think. Fixing it. When I first got it, I broke three of the these like metal thick things. The springs. They just broke on me. Three of them. Damn, you fucking play hard, Mindy. I do. You play hard. It's the retard strength. That's cool. Yeah. It's deeper inside me. Or crazy. It's my crazy power. I try to keep it all in and then release it. How long does the average cymbal last you? Probably like two years, maybe. It depends on how often I'm playing. Sometimes I've been playing more than other times. Do you consistently break sticks during a show or do you make it through? Not anymore because I found the perfect stick for like my hitting style. When I was younger and I would use the $5 ones that were super thick, but they were made out of really thin, crappy wood. I would break a ton of those because they were so light. Wait, tell them what you've learned. I've learned that I like Japanese oak. I like my wood hard. I like it durable. She says she prefers the weight and not the thickness earlier. Density. Yeah. I like dense drumsticks and not thick ones. That's cool. That's what I'm saying here. I'm particular and I have my particular cymbal set up, which is a Zildjian 22 inch dry. K custom because it has the ping. So if I do like diddles or I do cool stuff, each note is like very accented and separate. And that cymbal has such an awesome bell and I use the bell a lot. I already told you about my love of the 20 inch a custom crash and to match it, I have another 20 inch Zildjian Z Z3, which is a newer one that I just kind of upgraded. I used to not have that particular symbol in that location, but I have to point out the reason why I have two 20 inch crashes is because in the case of an emergency when I need a pair of crash symbols, they're there because I love crash symbols and I am prepared if zombies ever take over the world, I'm going to razor blade the edge of my crash symbols and like slice heads off because I was in marching band. I can do all those flips and shit. Perfect. Mindy, you know what? I love you because if we do get to go, if we get to go to NAMM or even if you just get to like I can picture you like finding a booth that's like you're like, can I play your drums? You're like, I got this idea for these Kung Fu symbols. If you just give me five minutes of your time. I'm hanging out with Mindy at NAMM. Yeah, no kidding, man. Like, yeah, dude, no shit. Well, especially since like you I love the things that you nerd out on because they're like such a big party and whenever you like talk about your drums, it's way cooler than listening to somebody else talk about like a hobby they have because it's like you are the drums. Like some girls are like, yeah, I have this boyfriend and he's kind of cool and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, oh my God, listen to these symbols I have. Let me tell you. Yeah, I like that. All right, NAMM, you heard it. So give us those passes. Just hand them over because we want them. We really want them. And actually we do. We do care about music. I want to play drum screen music. Check it out. Yeah, she's going to she's going to bang the shit out of some shit. She wants to do it sooner rather than later. I like to hit things hard and fast. Yeah, me too. Well, we're going to actually hit the bong hard and fast after a few seconds here. I've decided that I want to pack it up. Wait, did we bring a bong? We're going to be just fine, but we're going to do some time traveling and my right arm is going to get really old. Like way older. Way older than my left arm. Thanks, Einstein. We want to thank Taylor for coming on and playing some of his tunes. Give us a shout out of all your awesome websites and where fans can go check you out. Oh man, I have a lot of websites. Pick the top ones that you think people should frequent. nvr-ndr.com and then there's Magikor, M-A-G-I-R, G-I-C-O-R-E dot U-S. And then I've got a new project called Grypt. That's G-R-Y-P-T dot M-E. Yeah. Alright. So you heard it. You heard it, you guys. We are the Hotbox. We got Hotboxshow.com. We're on Facebook. We're trying to get 420 friends. So if you're listening, come check us out. Add us. We post funny stuff and we're cool. Where else are you going to see a nug as Morgan Freeman's afro? Where are you going to see that? Except for the Hotbox. That's why we're here. 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