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I ain't doing nothing but talking shit. Y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way along. Ow. I ain't doing nothing but talking shit. Y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way along. Ow. Peace, this is Common. And right now you're checking out Nestorius Public Radio. Y'all stay in tune. Love. The bigger dicker. The pancake flipper. The boom stickity boom stickity boom stickity sticker. The boogie flipper. The don't stop till you drop it. Your IHOP pancake breakfast. For the rest of us. We came to bless this. The windshield wiper for your ear master. The cap and crunch that will steal you from disaster. You got too many cracks on your wall. You need plaster. Yeah, with the program you drinking 30-year-old UPS Shasta. Yo, you drinking Shasta, but I'm the master blaster. Miss Ginger Lynn in the studio tonight. Said it right. Get it going all night. NPR with a star. You think I'm lying? Stop trying. Pay attention and you could go far. Cause you're listening to the motherfucking. And the P and the R. Yes. Yes. Y'all. I'm your host. Nestor Rodriguez. And you listen to NPR on Astoria's public radio. We're here live Thursday night, nine to 10 PM Pacific standard time. Midnight to 1 AM on skid row studios.com. And we're joined once again, like the reunion is back. My nigga right here, Simon Kaufman. Don't call it a comeback, baby. We've been here all year. The three trifecta back in the building. I had some work conflicts, you know, working for a living. Right. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. Blast. breakups, you know, next thing you know, I'm serving mashed potatoes at a restaurant. So sometimes I'm not available. And you're picking up crumbs from the fucking... Yeah, refilling the iced teas and diet Pepsi's for senior citizens of Encino. Do you want some Diet Coke? Oh, thank you. And my man Rich Corbin, I'm going to introduce my unbelievable guest, my man Rich Corbin, as always. And we have an amazing special guest, Miss Ginger Lynn Allen. I've got to leave the best for last, Ginger. Thank you. Thank you. No, I'm flattered to be here. I can't just introduce you and then go on to the... You're the star. You're the star of the show. No. You're the star of my show. Okay, alright. It's a pleasure to be here. It is a pleasure. It's a pleasure to have you here. It's a pleasure to have you here on Skid Row Studios.com. For those of you that don't know, Ginger Lynn has a show here Monday through Friday from 4 to 6 p.m., two hours a day. Catch it live on the video. If you go to Skid Row Studios, there's a live video button. You can check it out and then check out the show. This show's called Blame It On Ginger. Blame It On Ginger. So if you ever get in trouble, no matter what you do, no matter where you are, no matter what's going on, just go, yep, Ginger Lynn. Blame It On Ginger. All you have to do, just say Ginger Lynn and you're out of trouble. She's like her own messiah. Yeah, like instead of like we always give it up to Jesus, we just blame it on Ginger Lynn. You know, you're like a new form of a messiah. Ginger will absolve you of all of your excuses. The lead in song to my show is written by a band by the name of The Bones and is what their album is called What Would Ginger Do? Yeah, What Would Ginger Do? What Would Ginger Do? We need bumper stickers. Yeah, I don't know if my parents would really approve of that. They're fine with the porn, but I don't think by like... All right. So, so, so, okay, so you know what? You know why I love you so much? No. No, I'm going to tell you why I love you so much. He made a list. He made a list. No, no, no, no, no, no. I've been thinking about this. I've been thinking about this. Because you were just on Dark Mark's show. Right. And that's my boy, Dark Mark. He's awesome. He's a sweetheart. But you know why I love you so much, Ginger? Because seriously, you're a survivor. Not only are you a trendsetter, I know that sounds like a... like a pat-fucking title, but hear me out. You're a trendsetting, you're innovative, you're a woman in this industry, in the entertainment industry, which is very, very difficult to do. It is. There's a lot of obstacles in the way. But you have survived. When I say you're a survivor, I mean, you have survived all sorts of shit. I mean, from back in the mid-80s, and you constantly reinvent yourself. You reinvent yourself. I think you have to. No! No! Some people overdose. But I would get bored if I didn't constantly do something new and exciting and innovative and just make... Every day is the only today I get, and I want it to be the best today that I can possibly have. So whether it be reinventing myself or going in a new direction or a new show, whatever it may be, I will never go away. You can't get rid of me. I don't know if it's so amazing that I'm anything but just a... It's amazing. A survivor. No, no, no. It's amazing. I'm telling you. Most people that have been through half of the shit that you have been through overdose, hang themselves, fucking get run over by buses with Accidente on the back of the fucking Puerto Rican toothless lawyer. I follow that bus every fucking day when I come to the studio. So why is every bus in L.A. why do they have Accidente on the back of every fucking bus in Los Angeles? Hola, me llamo Miguel Ejerente. Si tu y tu esposa están en un accidente especial, por favor, no le maten. Llámame al 1-800-995-5348. That's the bus. Yeah. 1-800-ACCIDENTE. When I first came to L.A., I did a monologue just based on that fucking... I had to audition for something and I needed a monologue, which, by the way, I fucking hate. I hate monologues, you know what I mean? Oh, they're the worst. They're the worst. They're so hard. They're hard because you have to put yourself into somebody else's body. And it's a different thing if you get hired for a part and you act, then you have a long arc to do. But to take a chunk out of something, you know what I mean? I figure I could write my own or I could imagine one as the lawyer on the back of the bus. 1-800-ACCIDENTE. You know what I'm saying? I studied for six years at the... at the Beverly Hills Playhouse with Milton Katsalis. Milton Katsalis. Easy for me to say. And I remember the first thing that I ever put up on stage and I had to kiss someone and there was this long stream of spit like from Simon and I. So I do the dialogue and there's this kiss and then... and then... there's this long stream... Wait a minute. There was a Wayne's World moment just now. You've got very sexy eyes. Yeah, I've been told that. Yeah, you really do. Yeah, yeah. You've been told that. Yeah, baby. I'm just joking. Yeah. Very fucking hot. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I know, I'm just joking. No, it's all right. It's all good. You know. Simon and I have a little thing going here. It's all good. Rich? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have a little teens man. Don't stop your motherfucker. Anyway, so. Mysterious. I want to see if you can recreate the saliva. The spit. The saliva rainbow. I can't and I'll tell you what. I've been with the same man for nearly six years and nobody else goes inside of me and... Big up to you. No other man. Nick. That's it. And I will... Nick. That's me. Nick Adimas. That's me. That's me. Fuck off, Nick Adimas. Yeah. That's the most hope for all the motherfuckers. Jolly children. Yeah. Yeah. That's the mad cups of flavor from the east to the west coast, man. Philly blood, man. You know it. Yeah. No, it takes... You know, I met Nick a couple of weeks ago. Nick's your boyfriend. Yes, he's here tonight. Your significant other. He's always there. He's your better half. He really is. He looks out for you. He does your business stuff. He really is. And he's a civilian. He's a civilian. And for me to be with a civilian... Yep. Yep. Yep. Sanity. Balance. Yep. He keeps you in line. He's awesome. There's a balancer because I tend to be very... You're a performer. You're an artist. You're an artist. You're an artist. That's like the... You get a lot of jobs you can out of life and that takes, you know, that takes going crazy. It does. It takes a lot of energy and a lot of... It's yin and yang. Yeah. We are the yin and yang. So as far as... Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Spit going, there's... I'm sorry, Simon. No spit will flow. No. I'm not on that yang. I've got... I've got a boyfriend. There's no spit... You know, you got a yin and yang going and I'm not gonna... I'm not gonna slang that yang. I'm not gonna hang... That's it! Hang on that slang yang. You know, that yin and yang. That's not what we do at Skid Row Studios. But I will... I will cover up the puke with the newspaper. Thank you so much for doing that. Yes. I'm really sorry about that, too. I mean, I had a... I had a bad day. I had a bad day. and a case of beer and it just... I try to tell Rich whenever he comes out to do my show to stop with the burritos. Not to be fucking around with my... Don't worry. The other part's coming out soon. The beer's fine. We got some Febreze in the studio just in case that burrito kicks in number two. I've got Lysol to back you up. Yeah, first he pukes, then he poops, then he cries in the corner. We just console him. It makes great radio. It makes great radio. Okay. Oh, my God. Okay. Blame it on Ginger. Everyone else does. Might as well go for it. So you, I mean, we just had a little bite to eat before and we got a little acclimated tiny whiny. Yes. So you've done, you told me you've done more legit films. And by the way, you guys out there, legit is the term that the industry gives to film and TV as opposed to commercials or adult industry stuff. Right. Legit is film and TV. So you've done more legit stuff. I've done more mainstream Hollywood than I have porn. Right. My career was extremely short. It was from December 9th, 1983 until February 11th, 1986. How old were you? I turned 21 on my first film. On your first film with Jerron Jeremy. And you guys did a love scene on the beach. Yeah. Was that the first one or no? That was your second one. That was your second one. Right. That was my second. Okay. So we won't ask about the first one. It's not important. You know what? That was my favorite. The first one. The first one. The first one. The first one was much more important. The first one. Yeah. And so I paused there just because. I actually. Ron Jeremy has had this thing that he used to say. Just the tip. Just the tip. And it would be before the film. Before you're filming. And he said just the tip. And if you watch the movie, it's called Surrender in Paradise. And there's a scene where Ron's behind me. And I just turn around. And the scene starts with me decking him. And I just. Oh, really? And I. I. He said just the tip. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. And yeah, I fucking decked him. But then. But then you. The director yelled cut. You guys reconciled. And you did. No. No. We never did. Really? No. That was it. So wait a minute. Which is the film that you and him are walking down the beach. And then you jump in the water. And then you come out. Same movie. Is it? That's it. So you guys never. He never. I'm a brilliant, brilliant actress. Are you serious? Yeah. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Man. So you mean to tell me I was jerking off to make believe? Of all the scenes I've ever done in any adult movie. That would be your make believe scene. Oh, man. That would be your nothing. That right there. Abso-fucking-lutely. Seriously? Nothing was there. Holy shit. Nothing. Can I tell you something? Yeah. That right there solidifies you as an amazing fucking actress. Thank you. I swear to God. Thank you. If you've never seen the film. Seriously. Seriously. No bullshit. Google it. I don't know what the fuck she's talking about. Because it does not. I'm flabbergasted. Seriously. That's bizarre. You know? And I had nothing but. Yeah. That's bizarre. It's. You know what? Passion in any form can be mistaken for one thing or another. Right. And I did a bunch of films with Tracy Lords. Couldn't stand her. We'll talk about Tracy Lords in a little bit. You can. I have a quote that you said. Would you say? Shark week. You said. You said. Shark week. Stare. Eat. Devour. Have you looked at her in her face? There's nothing going on. Those eyes are dead. Can I tell you something? When she came on the scene. To me, in a sense, that's when like the adult film industry started to shift a little bit. When she came on the scene. So. But anyway. It's just. I remember like Sharon Mitchell, for instance. Oh, I love Mitch. I love Mitch. I love Mitch. I love Mitch. I love Mitch. I love Mitch. I love Mitch. I love Mitch. So for those of you guys that don't know, Sharon Mitchell was not the most attractive looking woman on the planet. She was a very masculine. I disagree with that. I think she's beautiful. But. Hold on. Do you know who she is? You just bullshit. I just watched. I just watched the. Okay. Knowing you were going to be on the show, I watched some. Right. Right. Right. Right. E story. True Hollywood story. E story. Yes. But wait. You've seen her after she did work on herself. If you go back and see some of the films from the 80s, you'll know what I'm talking about. I don't need to rewind. I just like to look what's across the table. No, no, no. What I was going to say. I don't need to know how we got to this point. Dude. Dude. What I was going to. What I was about to say was that she wasn't the most attractive. No, she was not. So that's a better way to put it. She was more masculine looking. Masculine. But there was something fucking sexy about her. Oh my God. Her nipples. Dude. She had inverted nipples. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And no one had those. She had special shit. She had it before they even came out with them. She was the inventor of inverted nipples. I've never even seen her nipples. I've only looked at her face. No, but there was something about her. There was something about her that. Okay. Here's the deal. So we were talking about this, about where adult films have gone. And I'd like to talk about all that stuff a little bit because I mean. Of course. There's so much to talk about. But back then it was just basic, right? It was just man, girl, girl, girl, and man. It wasn't like 50 inch cock. No. 20. It was. Two hours. Two hours of guys waiting on line so they can stuff somebody in the face. You know they had writers. You had a script that the first 15 pages were dialogue and then it said sex scene. Right. Then you had another. We had 120 page scripts just like you do in any other film. Right. And then the sex scene would be inserted. And I chose my leading men, my leading women. I had script approval. Script approval. Cast approval. And I just. I made sure that everyone. Everyone I worked with was someone that I really wanted to be with. And that's probably why you were very successful. You know? I had a really good time. Yeah. I was in it during the golden era. Yeah. And you called your shots. You called your shots. Yeah. And you made the right decisions. Well back then you had. You had. Christy Canyon. You had. Oh yes. Nina Hartley. You had. I mean these are. These are classy. Oh my God. Oh my God. Seika. Yes. Are you kidding me? As a young Puerto Rican boy. I was like. God damn. I want some of that. I haven't seen that. Vanessa Del Rio. Vanessa Del Rio. Oh my God. She was my first porn I've ever seen. I've heard the name. Oh my God. She's a bodybuilder now. I was five years old in 83. Is she still alive by the way? She should still be alive. Yeah. She's still around. Yeah. She's a sweetheart. She's just amazing. Vanessa Del Rio. You were five? Yeah. You're tripping her out. You're tripping her out. You're tripping her out. You're tripping her out. You're tripping her out. You're tripping her out. You're tripping her out. You're tripping her out, dude. So basically, here's the other myth that a lot of people have about porn and adult film. They always have that music. Right. The majority of the music. Yeah. But the majority of the music back then was actually very nice, jazzy type music. It wasn't that wackity shit. They wrote music specifically for films. There's a film called Ginger. And there's a. There's a scene where I'm kind of running on the beach and hanging out and doing the only thing. And they've got this girl who has a very. Her voice sounds exact. If I could sing, which I can't. Can't do everything. No, I can't. But that's what I wanted to be when I was growing up. I wanted to be a singer. Of course. And I can't sing to save my fucking life. I'm tone deaf. I have no control. Nothing. Of course. I'm awful. But in the film Ginger, they've got the instead of the. Yeah. Boom, chicka, boom, chicka, boom. Yeah. It was. It was a girl who had a voice very similar to mine. Right. Singing. And they were pretty. They were. They had a composer. OK. Listen. I want you to measure the peepee over there. When it goes inside, I want you to put one full note. OK. One full note. Then we do three full notes like that. One, two, three. OK. Slow it down a little bit. That's right. Putting the Archangel music. And that's nice. Yeah. We want it nice. We want to paint the picture nice. OK. The picture painting nice. OK. OK. OK. Now it's a guy. Now it's a guy holding a steadicam. Yeah. Yeah. Now it's a guy holding a big chick. Yeah. They don't fucking do it in post. It's in an unmarked van. Yeah. No, it's not. It's in an unmarked van rolling around. Seriously. We had a van back then. We at least had a van. Today, they don't have a van. I'm not saying you shouldn't have a van. I'm saying when you start taping the windows and inviting people in and filming them, it's. Yeah. It's not like it used to be. It's gotten creepy. It's gotten really creepy. Nowadays. Nowadays, though. It's a dungeon. You could have a nice couch or somewhere to lay out by a beach. But for those of you guys that don't know, you mentioned Tracy Lord before. The deal was that she was underaged and she lied to do porno, to do adult films. And in California, I believe at the time, you could do porn. There was some sort of a wacky law where you could actually film. You could not. No. You could not do films in California at that point in time. It was illegal. You could buy them and watch them, but you couldn't make them. You couldn't make them. Yes. Ladies of the jury. We are adjourned here because we can't have pussy and cock making here. You can watch it. We can tax it. But you can't fuck it. Yeah. Exactly. We can have prostitutes at the judge's congressional dinner. Yeah. But we can't. Is that wrong? Yeah. Yeah. We can have governors with underage sex scandals, but we cannot film it. No. Well, that's the interesting thing. That's perfectly acceptable. That's the interesting thing. Because she was underage. So then they came down on the porno industry. At that time. Right. And they started going after you guys for tax evasion and faulty taxes. Exactly. And that's the first thing that had happened to you as a result of all that bullshit. They went after me, Harry Reams, and Tom Byron. And what Tracy had said was, these are the three people who will know everybody that you can bring in and they will testify. And I was brought before a grand jury. And I have a really bad memory. No, that's okay. I don't remember a lot of stuff. Yeah. And they eventually charged me with willfully subscribing to a false tax return. And at that point in time, it was not mandatory that the producer 1099 the employee. Right. It wasn't mandatory. It was not mandatory. So there was $2,087.04 that I spent four months and 17 days in federal prison. Right. For that. That's ridiculous. Fucking ridiculous. I was facing six years. And the thing is, Tracy, when they brought me before the grand jury, they had photos and they were shot from behind bushes. And there were things that were shot knowingly that she allegedly was underage. I don't know if the cunt was underage or not. I really don't. They had photos of bushes? Oh my God. There were photos of bushes behind bushes. You know, one of the families. Behind bushes. And the bushes. And the bushes. There was bushes and bushes. There was bush and bush and bush. Bush was in a bush behind bushes. I just want to take this moment to say that one of the founding principles of the United States of America and one of the things that our founding fathers set up was that you could not be in prison for owing tax to the crown and to owe $2,000 and to be thrown in jail when you could have paid it in a stroke of a pen swipe. That wasn't the point. I spent over $400,000 defending myself for a crime I didn't commit. Now, I could have easily... That's a violation. No, you're right. You're right. You're absolutely right. And I could have easily just stood up and said, this person, this person, this person, this person. But that's not who you are. I am not. My grandfather was a cop. My dad was a cop. And you're not a cheater, a liar, a thief, or a snitch. And snitch is number one. You're not a fucking snitch. Snitch is the worst, yeah. That's like the lowest down dirty thing that you can ever do. Yes. And not that... Not that I had anyone to snitch on. But you weren't going to be involved in pointing fingers at anybody. No. No. I get it. It wasn't my place. And the thing is... You didn't know anything. I was working on... No, I knew nothing. I was in prison. We'll help you, though. We'll help you remember. We'll help you. We'll help you remember or we're going to make it really hard on you. But you mentioned Harry Reams and Tom Byron. Now, those two dudes, they were heavy hitters also in the porn industry. They were heavy hitters back then. Those are like... They went after me first. And when it took five years to try and do anything, they dropped the cases against Harry and Tommy. Right. Right. Yes. And then... So, when I said to you in the beginning that why I love you is because you're a survivor. You're a re-inventor. You're an innovator. You know, when... So, I was looking at that same clip where you worked and they kept saying... And... Ginger Lynn Allen, once again, finds herself unemployed. And then... And then... And then... And then... And then you come up. And then you come up and you have a new fucking way of making money. Oh, yeah. All legit. I'm doing something new. All legit. Some... Some... Ginger Lynn's body... GingerLynnAuctions.com. No, no. Forget that. I'm talking about way before. Oh, wait. You had videos. A lingerie video. I had a lingerie. I had a workout video. Workout video. And those sold... That was the one that was interesting. And they were both very, very well received. They were. And they were... They were. They were. My workout video was fucking amazing. Yeah. It was very, very... Yeah. I couldn't do it today. I couldn't either. I couldn't do shit. I can't even tie my shoes. Why do you think I'm wearing boots? Okay? I can't even tie my fucking shoes. Workout? Like that? No, so... Now, did the husbands buy the workout video, like, as a gift to the... Yeah, of course they did. ...to the wife? Of course they did. That's awesome. Of course they did. Well, here was the best position in the video. Get the glutes going. That's actually... Hold on. You got it. Hold on a second. You got it. That's a glute ham activation exercise. There you go. Yeah, I can't. I can't. This one? Yeah, I can't do it. I would have had to drop it down. I'm not that manual. I'm not that... Did I put the camera back the way it should have been? Cool. It needs to be kicked over a little bit. A little bit more. We made Jenny work extra hard today. Move it to the left or to the right? To the left. Oh, the other left. Other way. Other left. Like that? There you go. Like that? There I am. Okay, cool. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't stop, motherfucker. Hit the body rock. Jiggity, jiggity, jiggity, jiggity, jiggity, pop. Pop, pop. Don't stop. Anyway, let me stop fucking around. So before those workout videos, though, video, you were... Okay, so you were the first adult star to capitalize or actually set the trend for Vivid for selling VHS tapes. Yes. Yes. So you... And you were one of the highest paid adult stars in your 20s. I mean, I read that you made... I don't know how much money you made, but... I was the first... I was the first contracted performer ever. Okay. And so it was... For Vivid. Uh-huh. Which put them on the map. Right. And it was very similar to old school Hollywood where you had a contracted star, you paid them a certain amount of money to be exclusive. I was exclusive to Vivid for video only. So I was still allowed to do mainstream or non... Even adult films as long as they were shot on film. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And that made a lot of money. And that's what put Vivid on the map. Yes. You know what I mean? So... Was that your idea? No, they actually came to me. Mm-hmm. And we worked out a deal. And... So you were instrumental in crafting that. She's instrumental in that. Yep. There would be no Vivid if it were not for me. That's awesome. But the thing that I'm confused about is... You put Vivid on them motherfucking map, y'all. They should have a big statue. What? Right? Right in the middle of their... You know, like when you open the doors, there should be a statue. What's that word in... Foyer? Perpetuity? No. Perpetuity? Which means forever. Forever. Perpetuity means forever. Yes. Yes. Yes. On your motherfucker! One of those contracts with Vivid. Yes, in perpetuity. Yeah. Wouldn't it be nice? No, I do. Oh, you do? I do. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, nice. Yes. So, okay. So you were in... I mean, you had already... Capitalized on the VHS video business, because from that, and then, you know, you moved on. And here's the thing. I'm not saying you moved on to doing your own personal workout videos and your lingerie videos and all that stuff. Right. But in between all that stuff, you were doing TV, like we were trying to get at earlier, legitimate TV. NYPD Blue. NYPD Blue. Well, here's the perfect example of the story. I was actually in prison. Yeah. And they had put me in a three-month... Yeah. Yeah. Facility. Echo Park facility. Yeah. Where they called them cottages. And I had a cottage with three other women. And I had... I was allowed to leave for work purposes only. Right. So I get up in the morning, and one of the girls in my cottage was fucking all 70 other people that weren't them, they weren't girls, in the facility. And I had this audition. So I'm standing in the bathroom. I've got my eyelash curler on. And I hear... Which means, come on. And I turned around, and I had my eyelash curler on. I went, she's not a fucking dog. Leave her alone. I was so fucking pissed because I was... I pulled all my eyelashes out. I go to this audition. Stephen Bosco. I'm in prison at the time. Stephen Bosco. Stephen Bosco. And I walk into the... The reception area. Yes, the casting office. Tracy Lords is sitting there. I'm in prison because of her. And she's sitting there. And I read the script. I'm looking at this. I'm going, are you fucking... All I can think about is I want to light her hair on fire. I want to cut her tits off. I hate her. I'm in prison because of this fucking cunt. And, no, it was awful. Yeah. And I go in. That's a... That's a... That's a... That's a... That's a... That's a... That's a... That's a... That's a... That's a... That's a... That's a... I call my... I call my... My agent. I said, you know what? There's a line in the script I will not do. And all it said was, I will... I want to lick your lollipop. Right. That was the line. That's what they could come up with. I'm supposed to say that to Dennis' friends. I want to lick your lollipop. So I call my agent. That's corny, you know. There's no way I'm not doing this. I'm not saying this line. Right. It's like, you know what? Go in there. Get the fucking role. Then you turn it down. That's what your agent told you? That's what my agent told me. That's smart. So I went in. I got the fucking role. Right. I turned it down. And if you see the episode, it was nominated for five Emmys. It won three. I'm the guest star. Mm-hmm. And I don't say the line, I want to lick your lollipop. No, you don't. No, you don't. It's not in the film. No, it's not. Not in the film. No. No, Stephen Bochco said he'd change the line for you. He did. He changed the line for you. He did. And it was one of those meetings where you walk in and there's like 12, 15 people. And there's like 12, 15 people sitting around a table. And the reason I think that I got the role is I didn't give a fuck. I'm going back. When I leave here, I'm being driven back to prison. Mm-hmm. Okay? I'm walking out of this and going back to prison. I'm going to be there that night, the next day. And I had... So when I did the filming, I would go every day to the set, return, and have to pee in a cup in front of a black woman that tested my pee to make sure that I had done it. Pee on your motherfucker, yo. How'd she... Yeah. She test it? She watched me. No, it was the same woman every day. And I would have to pee in a little cup. And she watched me do it, put the seal on it, watched me. There were mirrors around the entire room. Yeah, it really was. Yeah, but what's the problem with... You think a couple of casting directors are going to scare you after that shit? I pissed before a fucking black lady, an obese black lady. You think I'm going to worry about you? Oh, well, I'm a producer. Fuck you, Lenny. I got this part. You just read with... Three years after that with Heidi Fleiss. Heidi Fleiss was like the main person that I saw every time I went in to pee. Oh, really? For my drug testing. Heidi Fleiss was there every fucking time. Now, didn't she have... There's a connection between Heidi Fleiss, you, and Charlie Sheen, no? Was that Heidi Fleiss? I don't know if I'd call that a connection. You know, every... We don't have to talk. I mean, that was just something that just came to my mind. Seven degrees of separation between everyone. Yeah. No, you just said that, and I'm like, that's ironic. It's a small take. Isn't it? You know, Heidi was a nice... She was very... No, she wasn't. No, she's not very nice at all. Sometimes life's a bitch. Sometimes you go take your UAs with Heidi Fleiss. No, that's just weird. I mean, that's just weird that that's a fact of, you know, whatever happened there. If you want to know the 911 and all that, you got to watch the E2 Hollywood story. We don't need to talk about it. It's all good. Which, the good thing about the E2... E Hollywood... E... True Hollywood story. True Hollywood story. It's actually pretty good. They... You know what? It was the first of four... The fourth of four of their first episodes that they ever did that were two hours long. Right. And I was petrified. I thought, you know, they're going to trash me. They're going to interview me, my family, my friends. And they were actually... They were really stand-up people. They did a really good job. They portrayed me as I am who I am. Yep. And I was really, really impressed with what they did. You know, they did a really good, really good job. They didn't take a stand one way or the other. They just presented who you are. They did. And there were only, at that point in time, four stories. There was Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, Gilligan's Island, and Ginger Lynn. They were the only four... Interesting. There was a character... Two hour episodes ever. There was a character on... Ginger. Ginger. Look at that. Yes. So there's, again, six degrees of separation. I mean, it just keeps coming. No, but that's the other thing that why, when I said I love you, that's another thing that I love about you. You are who you are. And I got that. Seriously. Thank you. We never met before. No. I met you a couple weeks ago, two seconds. You are who you are. I can feel it. I really am. Yeah. Now, Simon just pulled away. No, I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to. Simon's nervous. Simon's nervous. I'm just nervous. Yeah, yeah. I have to be nervous about it. Yo, yo, yo. This is really who she is. Yo, I ain't nervous. Yo, I ain't nervous. I ain't nervous. What do I have to be nervous about? Hey, yo. Hey, yo. I ain't nervous. I got Ginger Lynn, super duper delicious adult film star. Yo, I ain't nervous. What the fuck am I scared of? So she was in prison. She shanked a girl for pudding. She took a girl's pudding. She pissed in front of a black chick. I mean, shit happens. I'm not scared. Yeah. We're drinking. We're sharing a nice, refreshing diet beverage. Diet beverage. That's awesome. That's awesome. So, yeah. So, so. Oh, God. That's crazy shit. That's crazy shit. So. So. So part of, one of the things that I got out of that Eat True Hollywood story is that you were getting roles. I mean, one of the things that people who are in the adult industry that they want is to work in, you know, quote unquote, mainstream TV and film. They did back then. Today, it's a whole different industry. They just want to overdose and die now, right? They don't do movies. They do scenes. It's a whole different industry. Right, right, right. It's, I would never, ever, ever recommend. I would never recommend anyone to get into the adult film industry today. I would, I just, I would steer you away from it. I hear you. You know, I don't. Not even to pay for dental school, no? No. Not even for dental floss? Do you want to die? Not even for dental floss? Do you want to risk your life for dental school? No. No. You don't. But how about if you need new feet or the ropes? You'll never make it into dental school. Then get a fucking job. Yeah. Yeah. But that's a job. Get a job. Go to work. Get a job. She's talking about people being exploited. Okay, okay, okay. So, so. Why would you say no? Why no? Tell us. Why do you think? I think that the industry today is dirty, disgusting, undignified. Sensationalistic. Absolutely. And there's no place for anyone to ever become well-known. Right. The way that you do it is you, you put goldfish in your butt. Yeah. You, you, you go to extremes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, how many cocks can you put in my nose? It's violent. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. And the girls, you know what? I love sex. I love sex. I don't want you. Do you love sex, Ginger? I love sex. I really love it. If you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life. Do you love sex, Ginger? I'm the happiest girl ever. But I never did anything I didn't want to do. And the girls today do things, I'm not saying that they necessarily do things that they don't want to do, but they do what they feel they need to do to become famous. You're not going to get famous doing that shit. You're never going to get famous. You're going to get famous for doing that shit in a negative light. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, you will never become famous again unless you're like the teen mom. Yeah, you'll be negatively. No, no, no. They'll remember you negatively. No, because when you suck 80 fucking orangutan dicks, there's going to be somebody else that's going to swallow. Five rhinoceros balls. It's never going to end. Next week on the Dark Mark Show. I have a question because, you know, one movie where you played a really cool role is a movie that changed the direction of my life, which was Young Guns 2. Yeah. It was after that movie that I realized I didn't want to go to community college and I was just going to roam the countryside. And now I do that as a stand-up comedian. Yes. That 3.2 seconds that I turn and look at the camera, I shot for three weeks. Just for that? I had to dye my hair. They cut my hair. They dyed it. They did all the stuff. And you see me for literally 3.2 seconds. But it made it to the E! True Hollywood story. But it's a classic movie. And that was really like, was that, at that point, was that the biggest budget? Was it like, you know, the most legitimate, you know, or mainstream movie? Yes. Yes. It was huge for me. Yeah, that's like breaking in. And I remember... Just to be on set, you know? Yeah, I'm on the film. And I'd gone out with, I had, we shared rooms, and I had a girlfriend that was on the film with me together. And we went out the night before. And, you know, when you drink a little bit too much, well, I had diarrhea. So I'm on the toilet. In the bathroom. And I hear, does not matter. I'm on the toilet. I'm in the bathroom. And I hear, does not matter. I'm on the toilet. Knock on the door. Now, I can see out the window of the bathroom, it's Charlie Sheen standing there. And I'm like going... Oh, shit. Bad, bad, bad, bad. Yeah! It was just awful. And... That can happen. And it does. It happens at the worst possible moment. Of course. He did not seem to mind. Good for him. He did not mind. He seems like a pretty cool guy. That's a sign of a real... Of a real gentleman. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'll go with that. Yeah. I'll go with that. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's real. It's fucking real. Shit happens. It's real. No, it was real. It was very real. And he didn't run. And we had... You guys had a run. We had a run. Yeah. Yeah. Very interesting run. We did. You had the runs. Then you guys had a run. So, okay. So then there's another movie that you did. I was watching. Bouncing. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Both. Mulkey and Elizabeth Saltarelli kidnaps me. We go off on this road trip. Karen Black, who just recently passed away, is in the film. And it was one of those roles where they really gave me an opportunity to do what I can do the best. Right. And I don't get those often enough. We're going to work on something for you. Don't worry about it. You know what? I don't worry. Yeah. No, we're going to work on something. No, no, no. I know you don't worry. I'm saying we're going to work on something, some dramatic role for you. It's coming. NPR in 3D. It's coming. No, no, no. It's coming. It's coming. You're definitely going to be able to. The next thing coming up, the one that I can't tell you about, will be the one that changes everything. Everything? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And it's very, very, very, very, very, very close. It's happening. So you're going to change the game again on us? I am. So hold on. So hold on. Let's flip in the script one more time. That's awesome. So you went to the Cannes Film Festival with this. With Bounding Island. Bounding Island. Bounding Island. That's a fucking. Yes. When I say earlier, I said, you know, you've lived a full life. You've fucking done it all. I mean, how many people have gone to prison, right? Think about it. Not once, but a couple of times, right? So to speak. Three. Three times. Cannes Film Festival. Charlie Sheen. I'm telling you. I mean. I've had a very eventful, exciting, full life. Yeah. I'd say so. Most people could not handle that. I'm telling you. Most people. Yeah. They go home. They put some macaroni and cheese on the stove. They make a TV dinner. It burns. They lose it. They go to work. They sit in traffic on the way to work. They lose it. They have their favorite sweater. I go home and I make a three hour homemade chili with fresh chopped chilies and onions and cumin and oregano and everything is freshly made. I will. I will. I will. If I had to say God gave me one gift, then the best. That. And I paint. I sew. I knit. I do all these. Cooking. Cooking. Cooking would be what I would say that God gave me. That's a sensual thing. Cooking. I love to cook. It's my release. It's my therapy. What do you love to cook? Anything. Everything. If somebody dies, it's usually sweet things. I bake a lot. Bakes. I bake a lot. If I'm just. Passionate. It's a lot of meat filled things. Lasagna. Italian food. Is that your background? Italian? No. I'm German, Irish and Cherokee Indian. Nice. My mother's half Cherokee. Nice. How about steak? You cook good steak? I make the best steak. Really? Yeah. Do you make it? Do you grill it in butter? Grill it. No butter. Grill it. How can you not do butter? That's two different ways of doing it. If I was going to pan sear a steak, I'd use butter and some special seasoning. That I use. And then I'd sear it in the butter. Yes. If I'm going to do it in the grill, I get a nice fatty ribeye and I season it with a special thing. No butter needed. No butter. You're absolutely right. The seasoning, as long as you season it, the seasoning will keep all the flavor deep inside. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I love steak. You're turning me on now. Yeah. Yeah. You're really getting me going. I really, really, really love good steak. You do. You do. You should write a cookbook. Oh, well. I'll hook you up. Write a cookbook if it's a passion. I love to cook. Do it. Maybe I should. Yeah. Maybe I should. Absolutely. Yeah. There you go. Blame it on Ginger's cookbook. Yeah. And the way if you fuck it up, it's okay. If the food's good. If the food's good, blame it on Ginger. Yeah. If it's not good, fucking Ginger. Blame it on Ginger. Yeah. I swallowed a toothpick. Blame it on Ginger's cookbook. There you go. There you go. So, I mean. That is the most, one of the most unique things about you is, again, that you're always reinventing yourself. I'm telling you, Ginger, all bullshit aside. You're so sweet. No, no. I'm not being sweet. I'm being honest. All bullshit aside, people in this industry do the research. Motherfuckers implode. Most people cannot handle the shit that you're doing. You and Charlie Sheen. Both of you fucking. Charlie Sheen's another one. Like, no one can't handle that crazy shit. Believe me. I think that there are certain people who thrive on that, that they live for that. I hate drama. I fucking hate any drama. And every day of my life, there seems to be something that comes up that just drives me fucking nuts. And I just, I find a way to deal with it. How do you deal with it? By cooking? I suck a lot of cock. Sure. I'm looking over my mask. You've got the biggest smile in this place. Pick up your mama's been sucking the big caca. Pick up your bomba clod pussy clod. Penis eating. Cock swallowing. Germ ball eating and gargling, motherfuckers. Oh, you women taking care of your men so they don't go out to rob and kill and steal. The Key to Life by Ginger Lynn Allen. She's like, I got to go to the. CMV. Just have sex. Cock swallowing. You know what? You know what? Amen. Amen. Yeah. Who needs date nights, couple therapy. Who needs date nights? Who needs to have a conversation about it? Fuck that. So that's, I mean, cool. I mean, and you know what? That was an honor. We are almost six years into our relationship. God bless. And we. He's a great guy. He's great. Yeah. He's a great guy. He's awesome. So. Another big. Oh, big. Big up. Big up. Big up. Big up. Big up. Big up. Big up. Big up. Big up. Skinny lanky loving motherfucker. Big up y'all. You get your dick sucked nightly mon. Three times. Three times. Three times. Four times. Yeah. Now I have to do three more today? No. No. No, no. No, it's a good thing. Come on in. So, no, no, no. So we got about, we got about, we got about, I don't know. We got about seven, eight minutes or something like that. We can't. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. comes from the six minutes with Ginger Lynn. What's up? You having fun? Are you going to come back on the show? I'm having a blast. You guys are the best. This is so much fun. Yeah, you know. We like pizzazz. We like a little pizzazz. I had no idea. I had no idea what I was in for. You guys are the best. Oh, thank you. Thank you. That's awesome. We love you. Amazing and wonderful and fun. I'm laughing. This is what my day is all about. Right. It's every moment that I enjoy myself, that I laugh, that I love, that I live, that I enjoy. And that's what I'm doing right here. Love it. That's what we try to do. Yeah. And sometimes we get it 100% right. And today, tonight, this episode, we have. You are 100% right. That's because you're on. Perfect. That's because you're on. That's the reason. Because it's all. Feng shui. It's feng shui. It's feng shui. It's like the Yang and the Yang concept. Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. Don't stop the beat. Don't stop the cocaine. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Feng shui math. Oh, yeah. We'll feng shui the fucking shit out of that. I'm thinking I really need to feng shui math. No, so check this out. Check this out. I want to talk about your show. I want to talk about your show. Yes. Okay. Absolutely. So every show here on Skid Row Studios is completely fucking different. Every one of them. And I tell people, I always say, if you like NPR and Asteroids Public Radio, seriously, come on to skidrowstudios.com. If anything, if for whatever reason for Ginger's show, it's amazing. You've only been doing it for what? A month or so? A month and a half? About six. Six weeks. Five, six weeks. Yeah. When's it on? Monday. I'm on Monday through Friday from 4 to 6 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. That's 7 to 9. 7 till 9. 10. Is it 7 to 9? It's two hours. Well, you said 4 to 6, right? 4 to 6. So that's 7. 6 till 8. I'm trying to do mathematics on the Eastern Side. Forget all that shit. Three hours different. Okay, so. 7 to 9. 4 to 6 is 7 till 9. Yeah, 7 to 9. And it's live, so if you're stuck in traffic. No one said math would be involved. No one said it happened. If you're stuck in traffic. Yo, but it's live. So what? It's live, so tune your cell phone in to Skid Row Studios and listen while you're stuck in that bullshit traffic on the 101 or 405. While you're fucking worrying about how much rice cake and rice milk you're going to bring home to your fucking kids from Trader Joe's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. clean in your backyard, you could be downloading the Skid Row's app and you could be listening to some real shit. You know what I'm saying? That's what you should be doing. Thank you. Take the fuckers off, you supporting motherfuckers. So real quick, real quick. So your show, what is your show? What are you doing in your show? I know you do everything. So Monday you have Nina Hartley. For all you Nina Hartleys, Nina Hartley's here live. It's Mom Mondays with Nina Hartley. Tuesdays is Tasty Tuesdays. Wednesday is The Crack with Ro Del Grazi. We know Ro. I love Ro. Yes, we know Ro. She's amazing. How did you meet Ro? How do you know Ro? I know Ro from yoga. Okay, nice. That's a trip. She works at a restaurant across from my yoga studio. Ro the comedian? Oh, she's great. Yeah, yeah, Ro Del Grazi. She's a sweetheart. Oh, she's great. I love her. She's funny as fuck. Oh, she's funny, yeah. Oh, she's hilarious. She's brilliant. Oh, yo, you know Ro yo. I know Ro yo. Yoga ass splitting thigh whopping motherfucker. The Kundalini rising upward downward dog. The city namaskara. Namaste. Namaste. Pussy clod. So when can we come on one of your shows dude and fucking rock the mic yo? Well, now if you come on my show you have to be naked. That's you for him. Hold on. Only one of us has to be naked. Not all of us. Only men on my show have to be completely naked. No, bullshit. Dark Mark wasn't naked on your show. Yes, he was. No, he wasn't. Yes, he was. No, he wasn't. I was here. Girl, you ain't even got the bandwidth for Dark Mark. His dick was out. Nina Harley had it in her. But he wasn't naked. He had his fucking Beetlejuice outfit on. He was fully closed. He had his dick out. Dude, that's a lot of bandwidth. No. So, okay. So, Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday's Ro Del Grazi. Thursday. Thursday is Kelly Nichols. Okay. And Friday? Is Sapphire, Miss Sapphire Radio. Miss Sapphire Radio. Yes. Okay. So, you have all sorts of people. You talk about sex. You talk about ping pongs. You talk about ding dongs. You talk about slam-a-lam-a-ling-long. You talk about schlong. You don't stop. Pastrami. You know, you talk about all sorts of shit and you have people who do all sorts of stuff. They take off their clothes. They get spanked. All kinds of shit. Yes. Yes. I was actually kicked off of iTunes for about three weeks because I put eggs in Kelly Nichols' pussy. What's wrong with that? It's line 17. Oh, paragraph 17 is stuck. Line 17 is clearly snakes. I did not read that line. Regardless of which came first. And so, the thing was, we were over here on the floor. I had the little blanket down. My blanket and a little thing. And I had the eggs inside of her. I'm pulling them out and she started to squirt and she doused me. Oh, no! She said, squirt! Did you lay down newspaper after that? No, I have my pee-pee pad. I take it home and I wash it. I have a pad that I put down that's waterproof. There's a thing in the middle of it. I take it home and I wash it every day. Do you have a cabinet? I have a cabinet of goodies here. I have a cabinet over in the corner. Dildos, Cheerios, Weedios, all sorts of shit is in there. Plus sanitary napkins, wipes, earplugs, all sorts of crap is in there. I have gloves. You name it, I'm a very safe sex kind of girl. You are. So talk to us about the Dark Mark dick whip out. How did... We're going to have to close it. No, we have to close out soon, so Dark Mark's dick out is going to have to happen. Dick out, whip out, Dark Mark out. Dick, diggity, geeky dick. Stop. Dark Mark's cock. We'll have to go back and check that out. You're going to have to come back on the show another time. I would love to. Yes. Thank you so very much. Thank you, Ginger. Thank you, Ginger. So what's your website? You have a couple of websites. You sell auctions and stuff like that. What's your website? GingerLynnAuctions.com. Okay. You can follow me on Twitter at BlameItOnGinger and there's also BlameItOnGinger.com. Okay. So Ginger Lynn or Ginger Lynn's auctions? Ginger... Wait. GingerLynnAuctions.com. GingerLynnAuctions.com. Yes. Check it out. There's probably some really good stuff in there. I think Dark Mark's underwear are in there also, right? They are. You're selling them? They are. He's up. So one of us promises to get naked on your show while the other two stays fully clothed. So we got to work that out to be on your show. Just figure it out. Yeah. Wish it's you. He's going to take all the clothes. Anyway, we're going to be out. Ginger, we love you. Thank you for having us. Thank you. Thank you for being on our show. Thank you. Get the fuck out. Get it off. Get it off. Let it off. Get it off. Let it off. Get it off. Get it off. Get it off. Let it off. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. I ain't doing nothing but talking shit. Y'all got to encourage me the whole way along. Ow. I ain't doing nothing but talking. Shit. Y'all got to encourage me the whole way along.