Dennis Owens and Strung Out discuss LA punk scenes and public transit

traffic in Los Angeles, it says something that local officials warned motorists about a temporary roadwork closure on the 405 last year by calling it Carmageddon. Angelenos took the hint, and this weekend they're expected to steer clear of the latest 405 closure, named, of course, Carmageddon 2. That's how it is in L.A., a snarl of overstuffed freeways and commuters who keep their cool, except when they don't. KPCC's Steven Cuevas has this profile of a punk rocker whose music expresses the insanity of L.A. traffic while extolling the virtues of public transit. Couple of things you need to know about Eddie Solis. He lives in L.A., loves the band Kiss, and does not own a car. Being someone who's from L.A., born and raised, and, you know, having a few cars in my past, I saw the city much differently through a different perspective through the eyes of a bus rider. One just all the way to the back. Line 18, Wilshire, Western Station. Just steps from the front door of his home, across the street from a tortilla factory in L.A.'s Boyle Heights neighborhood, Solis catches a bus that connects him with the city's subway, and the commuter train he catches to his day job at an indie record label in Hollywood. It just opened me up to, like, little neighborhoods, galleries, clubs, bars, just everything. Just seeing what's out there, little pockets of the city. Solis' journeys aboard L.A. buses and subway cars informs a lot of the material on The New Los Angeles Part One, Through the Eyes of a Bus Rider, the latest release by the singer-guitarist band It's Casual. The New Los Angeles No one has learned much In Solis' vision of a new Los Angeles, people abandon their cars, climb aboard public transit, and rediscover their communities. One song extols the virtues of the L.A. County Metropolitan Transit Agency's E-Z Pass, and the urban underbelly it introduces to the rider. And that's, like, a nod and homage to, you know, the people who know what you can even go cheaper, and really beat the system, and really steer away from spending money on gas and oil profits and all that. $50 is all it takes for me to get to work. It's all it takes for me to witness racial tension, for me to witness illegal aliens. It's not to paint a negative picture, it's just my perspective of what is seen. Off the bus and back on the street, we make our way past a jazz saxophonist playing for pocket change, and down a long escalator to catch a train. So, where are we now? We're at the, uh... Red Line Station, the, uh, Pershing Square Station in downtown L.A. And what's our destination? We're gonna go downstairs another tier, and in about five minutes, we're gonna get on the Red Line going northbound. Okay, let's go. The Metro Red Line snakes from North Hollywood to downtown Los Angeles. It's the train that inspired its casuals' signature tune, and spawned a viral Internet video. It was partly filmed late at night on a moving train as it hurtles from station to station. Solis thrashes away on his guitar. It barks the lyrics, which celebrate the Red Line and call out the congested freeways that coil around Los Angeles. This is a train from the Metro Red Line to North Hollywood. The 210-605, the freeways are not so nice. The I-5, the 210, the freeways are not so nice. The thread that comes out of the record that ties everyone together is just like, be alive. Don't be a victim of having a... Don't be a victim of having a car. The 210-605, the freeways are not so nice. The I-5, the 210, the freeways are not so nice. The Red Line. The Red Line. An MTA spokesman said he couldn't comment on Eddie Solis' furious pro-Metro message, but the Red Line video was a hit at the offices of Move LA. Eddie's done a good job. Thank you, Eddie. It's the public transportation advocacy group headed by former Santa Monica Mayor Denny Zane. He liked the juxtaposition of Solis blissfully riding LA public transit in one scene with scenes of the band raging against those notorious freeway jams. Eddie is all frantic when he talks about highways and so mellow when he's like grooving on a skateboard and on the bus and on the Red Line. There's a metaphor for the transformation, you know, from the, Oh my God. I just got to get out of the traffic to, Hey, this is cool. I can mellow out. Or you can blast the tune like too many people as you claw your way across Los Angeles by car, bus, or skateboard. Los Angeles. There's too many people. I want them to go away. Even though it may take some time. Too many people could also be a metaphor. 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Its casual will play a different venue within walking distance of several Redline metro stops from Union Station to West Hollywood. For the California Report, I'm Stephen Queves. I watch my driver last in line And that's the California Report, a production of KQED Public Radio in San Francisco. Our director this week is Nina Thorson. Sil Muller is our technical producer. We had additional engineering from Danny Bringer and Howard Gelman. Thanks to Hank Hadley at KCBX. Our online... Our online team includes Lisa Pickoff-White, David Marks, and Don Clyde. Our interns are Katherine Borgeson and Rachel Johnson. Taiki Hendrix is our elections editor with production help from Tina Lauerberg. We had editing support from Paul Rogers. Victoria Malione is our associate senior producer. Ingrid Becker is our senior producer. The news director is Bruce Kuhn. I'm Rachel Miro. Thanks for listening and have a great weekend. This is the California Report. Funds for the California Report are provided by the James Irvine Foundation, expanding opportunity for the people of California and supporting the California Report since its premiere in 1995. And the California Endowment. Health happens in schools at calendow.org. And Chevron, investing in renewables, strengthening communities, and creating jobs. More information at Chevron.com. High five. Yeah, I did. The freeways are not so nice. The red lines. The red lines. The red lines. The red lines. The red lines. The red lines. The red lines. The red lines. From 2.10 to 6.05, the freeways are not so nice. 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The Red Light! The Red Light! The Red Light! The Red Light! The Red Light! The Red Light! Hey, welcome to the 121st episode of Los Angeles Nista. I'm your host, Eddie Solis. And we want to thank Amoeba Music, Death Wish Skateboards, Santa Cruz Skateboards, Poppy's Pizza, El Cholo Restaurant for their gracious support. And a happy birthday to Mr. Matthew Fuentes. My co-host, Ephraim Scholes from Death by Stereo, Manic Hispanic. How you doing? Pretty good, how you doing? I'm doing great, and we have three fabulous guests in front of us. Take it away. Dennis Owens, I'd like to introduce you first. I've known you probably longer than anyone else I know. Yeah. I've followed you for a long time. Can you start at the beginning of your list all the way to the present time and let everybody know who you are and what you do? Oh, well, we're going to start from the beginning. My name is Dennis Owens. I currently play bass guitar in a band called Free Moral Agents. And I met Ephraim back when I was in a band called Suburban Rhythm. Yeah. And after that, I was in a band called Action League. And then I was in another band after that called I'm Gonna Stab You. Oh, yeah. My friend Pat was in that. Oh, you know Butterworth? Yeah. Oh, man, okay. Yeah, he was in the second incarnation of that band. I was in the first incarnation. We have a 12-inch that Leonard, the bass player, put out. Yeah, that was what convinced me to be in the band. I thought Action League was a really cool name. I was like, yeah, Action League. Every gangster that I told that name to was like, dude, I'm in. That's funny you mention that because when those guys first asked me to be in the band, I asked them what the name was and they told me. I said, hey, when do we start? That's amazing. Yeah. You're also a DJ. Yes, I DJ. You've been a DJ for years. Yes, I DJ. I have a club in Long Beach. I have a club in Long Beach called The Good Foot. Good Foot. And we've been around for over 15 years. We started off, our first location was a place called Quez Aran, Long Beach. Yep. And our current location, we are every third Friday at Alex's Bar. Yeah. Our next installment is on Friday, March 21st. All right. Alex, this is great. So, now you know Dennis. We have Chris Aiken and Jake Colley of the band Strung Out. Why don't you guys talk a little bit about that? You guys do a lot of things. What's up, man? Just introduce yourselves. Tell everybody what it is you do. Hi, I'm Chris Aiken. I play bass in Strung Out. Rad. Yeah. I'm Jake. I play guitar and we just pretty much party. You guys make great records and tour. Yeah, we've been doing it for, I've been in the band, it'll be 21 years for me coming out this summer. So, yeah, it's crazy. Wow. Chris has been with for like, what, 12? 15, actually. I was on your first tour. Yeah. You had long braided hair. Yeah, that was one of my, that was the first year when I was flowing, just flowing hair. Just flowing hair. Yeah. I think it was your first tour or one of your first tours. We met you in like 2000. It was like that. Yeah. Yeah. Chris had been there for six months or something. That's right. So, we met you in like 1985. Is it Strung Out? Like, you guys are in Hollywood, right? Me and Chris do. Most of the other guys were like kind of in the Valley and stuff. Yeah, Simi Valley, right? Originally. Was it established? That's where we all came from. Yeah. You guys were legends of Simi Valley. You are legends of Simi Valley. Like. There's all these stories. There's all these stories about both of your houses. Right? Right? Yes. We had good houses. Yes. In the 90s? But you guys had this legendary party house in Simi Valley, right? Where there used to be a bazillion people there all the time. Yeah. The 4070s. Yeah. The 4070s. The 4070 Adam Roadhouse. Okay. That was. Now, this is really interesting. I know this is a tangent. It has nothing to do with music. That's fine. But I heard that your house was crazy haunted and everyone was scared to death. In Simi Valley. To spend the night there alone. Yeah. Okay. Tell me a story. Yes. Very funny. Because I've had the Boyle Heights Paranormal Project on here. And they were. I don't know if you know where Boyle Heights is over the bridge. Oh, yeah. But there's this hospital called the Linda Vista Hospital. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know about that, right? I've been inside. It's Freddy's Lair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's. Remember Elm Street. Wow. You know, there's a lot of. Okay. You know, psychics and ghost hunters that have gone there. And on one of the Ghost Chaser episodes, I think on, what is it? A&E. A haunted place in California. Wow. Damn. Two privateers. Okay, go. I declare his old house the most haunted place in California. I want to hear it. The first haunted place is that hospital. The second haunted place in California is my toilet. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. What's the third? Tell me. Yeah, third. The house? Yeah, the house. Tell me a story. Geez, there's so many stories about that place. I can. I'm trying to think of a really good one to tell you. Well, the cat. The cat. The cat. The cat. The cat. The cat. When you're in the room and the lady called your cat. What? Like, there's an old lady that haunts the house, basically. Okay. Walks around the house. People see this old lady on the front yard, like, in the front yard. Like, people are like, I just saw a lady. Yeah, there's an old lady watering your lawn. Like, who's this old lady? Yeah, she's like the one that, like, was the one that lived at the house back in the day and was supposedly shot on the porch and died there. So, she's like the spirit that's there. And before, like, us, you know, teenagers were living there, you know, the party people. There's a family living there. And the family had stories about the ghost, too. I know how old you are and you weren't a teenager when you lived there. You call that residual energy. Yeah. Yeah. And even, like, besides our crazy stories, we had what even was more spookier was the stories about, like, the family, about the son talking to its parents when their parents were, like, they told their kid that they were pregnant and they were going to have a daughter. And they're, yeah, we're going to move you out of this room and put you in the other room. This is going to be the baby's room. And the son said to them, oh, that's good. So, that means the old lady won't come out and talk to me at night. And they're like, what? And they're like, oh, yeah. The lady. The lady comes out of the closet and sits in my bed and talks to me at night all the time. And this is the same lady that talked to me all the time, too. What? I woke up a few times back over my years living there where I'd wake up to someone talking to me. And, yeah, I was definitely drinking and partying a lot back then. But these are totally sober nights. These are one night where I didn't drink. But, yeah, but it actually happened a lot. And then I kept hearing stories about that place. And then eventually I started seeing a lot more stuff. And then I realized I was dressed like a woman and staring in the mirror. I realized Q Lazarus was playing the song. I'm crying. I just heard that they found a body. Ursula told me they just found a body in the yard. Oh, yeah. Behind the 47. Yeah, there was a body a few weeks ago. Poltergeist. Just a tough one. Indian burial ground. Some random body. Sorry. Native burial ground. The Simi Valley PD found a body. I guess something was discovered, a body. And it was behind our house. The old lady. Yeah. So, it's kind of like just like you saying, poltergeist. Yeah. Just like they're digging up the pool. Then all of a sudden all the skeletons come out and go, I want to swim. You know what's funny? When I had the Boyle Heights Paranormal Project on, there's two guys that came in. And they actually went to go scout a location in Simi Valley. And this must have been about four years ago. And what was happening, someone got a hold of them because they were getting, just like in poltergeist, things were falling from the air. The thin air, like jewelry. Whoa. Old. You watch. Old. And landing in a bedroom in Simi Valley. Pick all that shit up, man. Yeah. Fucking sell that shit. Take that to the pawn shop. No, no. But seriously, though, I mean, you know, maybe it's a hotspot that's. Yeah. Well, they actually filmed poltergeist in Simi Valley, too. Yeah, they did. Really? Yeah. I want to go there. That track house scene in the very beginning. Yeah, the house. I wonder if they knew something before we did. Yeah. Maybe. Poltergeist creeped me out, man. Yeah. Me too, man. I love that one. Dennis. Okay. Any ghost stories? I have nothing to add to that. Do you believe in ghosts? What's that? Do you believe in ghosts? Currently not. Not? Well, since there's no more ghosts, I want to talk to Dennis about something really quick. Do it. Do it. I'm switching gears. I want to talk about Long Beach because he's OG Long Beach. You're from Long Beach? Yeah. You're OG? I want to know what your favorite place is in Long Beach that you can get to on the train from LA. The blue line. You ever take the blue line? A few times, yeah. What's your favorite place to take the train to in Long Beach? That's green, man. That's going green right there. What's your favorite spot? Let people know where to go. I don't take the train. I don't take the train. I don't take the train to anywhere in Long Beach. I live in Long Beach. Why would I take the train? Well, I mean, from here to Long Beach is what I meant. Oh, okay. I don't know. I haven't thought about that. No? Because we like to let people know about cool places they can go to. Yeah, it's about being green and car-free and being able to go get drunk and not drive. People from Long Beach can come here and get drunk and not drive, too. Well, yeah. If you want to go get drunk and not drive, you can just stop at 4th Street and go all the way down, basically. Perfect. You can get a ton of bars on 4th Street if that's what you want to do. What are the best spots? What are the best spots in Long Beach? What are your favorite bars? I like the Pike. Yeah, Pike's nice. Fish and chips. I mean, I don't drink anymore, but if you like doing that, I'd say go to the Pike. What are some of your favorite places to play or DJ? Well, favorite place to DJ is Alex's Bar, of course. Nice. And, you know, also in Long Beach, you know, I had fun DJing at Quez Arra. Quez Arra's pretty legendary. Yeah? I think so. Yeah? I like, I kind of think the name of it. Burns? V-Room? Burns. I've never DJed at Burns. I remember getting so wasted at Burns all the time. You know, I've always, I think Alex's is the most consistent place. I mean, I've, I've like, when I worked at SST, I booked a Black Flag show there. Like, after they did two nights at a Palladium, it was like a secret show. Oh, you booked, wow, okay. Yeah, so remember that Sunday night? Yeah, I wasn't there. I heard about it. Yeah, but it was like Dez, Grey Gann, Robo, and Cell. Sick. And it was the night after the play, the two Palladium shows. So I've had experience with Alex, you know, bringing a show in and my band playing with like High on Fire and Zeke. Yeah. Or like Negative Approach. Yeah. And then like just going as a fan and being stoked. So I think, you know, from all those perspectives, it's awesome. What about you guys? You guys like that venue? Yeah. Alex's. We played Alex's with you. Yeah, actually, that's right. Like the Give Jeans a Chance show where everybody gave jeans to get into the show. Yeah, if you brought a pair of jeans. Donated the jeans to the homeless. That's right. Cool, huh? It was a show that Vulcan put on. Yeah, Give Jeans a Chance. Yeah, that was fun. Bring a pair of jeans and that's your admission. It's pretty cool. That is really cool. Yeah, we played there once. I have like a hundred pairs of jeans now. It's so sick. I mean, I gave them all away. Yeah, I actually lost them while I was there. I saw you guys. I saw Death by Stereo play there. I saw you guys play there a few times. And Sam I Am play there. Yeah, Sam I Am. Yeah. Justin Bieber. I saw him. Secret show. I saw Culture Club do a secret show. I'm just kidding. I wish I saw Culture Club there. I wish I saw Culture Club, period. Yeah, right. So, the Pike is no joke when it comes to culture. When it comes to the fish and chips in that restaurant. I love that place. You know, I'll admit I have not had the fish, but I've had the chips. Have you had the jukebox? I have not had the jukebox. I like the aquarium when it comes to the beach. Yeah, I was actually going to recommend the aquarium. Night dive. If you want to take the train. Yeah, night dive is a great event. I just went to that. Yeah? Yeah. It's good stuff. Yeah, Goodfield was the same night, so unfortunately I couldn't go, but you know. In fact, I've DJ'd that before and it is a great event. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some friends were going to Goodfoot after because it's done at 11. What? Night dive? Yeah. Yeah. But you know what's cool? What people don't know is if you're in downtown, you could take the blue line for $1.50 to the ends, downtown Long Beach, and then when you get off, on Pine, there's this free bus, but it's like the cleanest bus because no one knows about it, and it's a shuttle, and it takes you. Yeah, it's like Red Bus. Yeah, Red Bus, and it takes you to the ... It makes all the rounds. I know about that. It makes all the rounds. It makes all the rounds. It makes all the rounds. go to Queen Mary and the back area over there, and then drop you off at the aquarium and then keep doing the same thing all night. Yeah, you know, I can't specifically tell you what buses and what trains it took that day, but I will say I broke down not that long ago, and my phone died. I couldn't get a hold of anyone, and I fucking found my way through every nook and cranny of Long Beach where I needed to go to a mechanic, do a fucking this, get something to eat, and that, all on buses and trains. Long Beach is pretty dope, man. You know what's funny? Honestly, like, honestly, like, I mean, all my dad's side is, like, from Long Beach, right? Yeah. And I never really, you know, KNAC, Pier Rock, that was from Long Beach. And, like, before the internet, like, you know, I would listen to KNAC. Were you a KNAC-er? Well, yeah, because, I mean, I mean, you know, especially, like, on Friday and Saturday nights, they would play the specialty shows, like Thrash and Hardcore stuff. They would? Yeah. They would. You'd hear Slayer. You'd hear Eye on KNAC. And you'd hear, like, you know, all these other bands. Yeah, Ruled. Yeah, and, you know, and then, like, not until the Snoop Dogg album dropped, I was like, fuck, Long Beach is going off. Like in the 90s, like in a real way, you know? Yeah. Golden Era, dude. That's Golden Era. Long Beach had some good punk bands, though. Long Beach had some great punk bands. Yeah, Rhino 39, half of T.S.O.L. Les Shock. Les Shock, one of my favorites. Neon King Kong. Neon King Kong, The Humpers. The Humpers. Oh, I miss The Humpers so much. They're so great. Man. Legendary, dude. So many legendary dudes have lived in Long Beach. Oh, Hyrax is from Long Beach. Yep. Caden. Caden's coming on. Caden's coming on. He's coming on March 24th. Nice. Caden Dependency. Yeah, it's going to be an old friend. Caden will have the gear in that time, so you can come in and DJ on his show. You should do it. Okay, I'll DJ some thrash. It'll be a full Long Beach circle episode, you know? Full circle. Yeah. Okay, now, we'll get to where you guys currently live, but what's popping off in Simi? Dude, I have no idea. I mean... All the police that live there? I've been out there for, like, almost three years. Chris has been out there for, like, six, seven years. Yeah, it's been a while. Skate park. Eight years. Skate park, right? Yes. Scott Radinsky's skate park. Skate labs there. Yeah. Skate labs are awesome. I saw you guys do a record release show there. That's right. I DJ'd it. Skate lab, right? And you played acoustic on the pool. On the pool, yeah. On the pool. All these kids were just surrounding this bowl. Eddie's like, rad skateboarder. He would have loved it. He would have loved it. Yeah, it's a great park. It's badass. We got Tom Knox from Santa Cruz in here this Friday. Oh, cool. And Jason Jesse the week after. Oh, wow. Pretty good stuff. We had Lance Mountain on. Salva. Skate Master Tate. Oh, really? Skate Master Tate. Yeah, we had Alva on too. Dude, I have a story about Skate Master Tate. Tell us. Really? Yeah. One time, the first time I met him was at a record store that's no longer around in LA. And he was talking to the owner of the record store when I walk up. And as I'm walking up, he's like, looking at me kind of funny. And I'm like, why is this guy looking at me? And he looks at me and goes, chicken butt. I'm like, what? What are you talking about? And he's like, you're not chicken butt? Oh, man. I said, who the hell are you talking about? And it turns out he thought I was the bass player from JFA. No way. His nickname, I guess, is chicken butt. And you know what's funny is he was- And I looked at a picture of the guy from JFA. You looked just like him? Especially when I was younger. Really? Yeah, he even wore the same kind of glasses I used to wear. Doppelganger. Yeah, I was kind of crazy. Does Skate Master Tate just call me chicken butt? But the worst part was I met him again a year later. Chicken butt. Same thing happened. Same thing. Same thing. Yeah. He forgot he already asked you. Yeah, yeah. He looked at me and was like, chicken butt? Funny fun fact why he probably identified you so hard with JFA was because when he was here last Wednesday, we talked about his hip hop group, you know, Skate Master Tate and the Concrete Crew. Yeah. And he's like, the only full US tour we ever did, like five weeks, was with JFA. Okay. And that was like, so he spent a lot of time with them. Yeah. He had great stories too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's a rad guy. And you know, come on, Skate TV, remember? Oh, dude. Nickelodeon? Oh, yeah. Legend. I had no idea. Good DJ. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure. Great record collection, dude. Yeah, I'm sure. Little segments. Yeah. I used to watch that. That was such a huge deal for all of us. Yeah, it was. Pre-internet, you know? He DJed the first Lollapalooza. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, he was on the entire tour in between bands. And he gave me, you know, yeah, he brought all these amazing photos in and he was able to be a part of that tour and jump on all the buses to, you know, town to town from, you know, different. Pretty cool, huh? Nice. Different bands. And, you know, at that time, it was. You know, that whole crossover was new, right? Yeah. I mean, the melting pot for all these different style of bands playing. You know, now everyone's jaded. You know what I mean? Totally. Everyone's over it. Okay. You guys live in Hollywood now. Yes. What are your favorite spots to eat, hang, hike? What do you do? I'll give one right now. I know you hike. El Cholo is awesome. The one, the OG one on Western. The first one. Yeah. The owner, Ron Salisbury, 90 years old, was in that seat. To me, that was a huge deal. That's awesome. Because. It is a huge deal. He rolled in, like, 90 years old, all, like, pumped. Yeah. Like, let's do it. All right. That place rules. Yeah. I love that place. I love El Compadre. I mean, I'm definitely. El Compadre is legendary. Yeah. But El Cholo is my hotspot. I live right next to it. It's hard to go to Guitar Center and you're like. Yeah, of course. Yeah. You're like. Have you tried the New York Cholo down the street? I've been there. Yeah. You know what? And, like, their food. Like, I was telling Ron, like, this is just the truth. Like, it's so consistent. Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. Like, the service, the quality, the price isn't too high. You know? Yeah. I've been to the one in Santa Monica one, too. They're all pretty right on, which is, you know, definitely sometimes you can have one to kind of stray a little further away. You're pretty right on. Right now? Like, now? Like, right now? Right now? Like, right now? Right now? Right now? Right now? But food places, you mean, like, or just other places in general just to go. I mean, I'm a total guy that goes to the movies all the time by myself or just walks around I love that. I go to. I walk around the Grove all the time. You know? You don't need a crew. You don't need a crew, man. You don't. All you need is to go into the sauce shop inside the farmer's market and get hot sauce. I do it all the time. Alone hangs are good. Raise your hand if you ever go to shows alone. All right. Alone hangs. I love you guys. Dude, we should all not hang out. I went to, I've been going to the new Beverly Cinema, which is actually an old Beverly Cinema, but, you know, the place on Beverly and La Brea, and they play, like, older movies. They'll play, like, Back to the Future, but they'll play, like, you know, Frankenstein meets, you know, Wolfman. That's rad. I love that. They play the wall backwards with lasers and smoke. It's sick. You know what's funny? Did you guys go to Lasarium back in the day? I did. I went to. The Peshmo Lasarium, dude. It was like a roller coaster of lasers. I went to Lollapalazer at the. What? It was. How much was that? It was a 94, and it was all music of Lollapalooza. How boring was that? That was, like, the most advanced fun we had. It was actually totally, like, back then, it was like, dude, we're all going. It's like, that's like when CityWalk opened. It's like, we're all going to CityWalk. Oh, my God. Just to walk around. Just to walk around. That's how it was when CityWalk opened the block. Yeah. We're just there to walk. Yeah. Check out this place. Dude, remember, like, when people used to go to Knott's Berry Farm on Friday nights? Hey, I went to Bonaparte High School. Studio K. I went to Bonaparte High School. That's where we used to go. Right? Ice tea. All right, yo. Cloud Nine. My friend saw ice tea there. That's so sick. Cloud Nine was for punkers. My other friend saw NWA there. What? Yeah. Wow. That's where I first saw the General Lee. Bam. Bam. But Cloud Nine was the club for punkers, and Studio K was, like, for, like, Power 106ers. You know what I mean? But I would go to both. Would you go to both? You're a crossover. You're a crossover? Dude, you're a crossover. Hey, everyone. Adam Murray, house photographer. All right. I got to ask you about Ozzy and ZZ Top, man, in a bit. This guy just went to some crazy private event. Nice. Nice. Nice, man. Adam's great, man. Also slash. He's been with me since the beginning. He makes great commentary all the time. I'm on things. On the 121st episode also. Awesome. Awesome. He just worked on the Vans Off the Wall doc. Oh, cool. Doing some good stuff. You guys know about the Vans Off the Wall documentary we were talking about last week? Oh. They documented the East LA punk scene, which is, like, the biggest fucking scene, the biggest fucking bands that no one's ever heard of, you know? They're, like, playing backyards with, like, 800 kids. Mm-hmm. Wow. You know what I mean? But, like, just shun the entire, like, we're not going to see them, like, at the observatory. Right. Or the Golden God Awards. Yeah. They'll play it. I'm not. I live in Ball Heights. Over the bridge. Yeah, my friend Roddy, who I do The Good Foot with, his brother puts on a lot of those shows. So sick, dude. And he also runs that 7th Street place over off of Alameda. I guess there's, like, some punk commune or whatever. Oh, there is, huh? Yeah. The 7th Street Warehouse. My friend and DJ partner, his younger brother, is the guy he runs at. The punk scene is so fucking big in LA right now, dude. Bigger than ever. And it's so, like, there's all these little sub-genre scenes. Like, with Manic Hispanic, like, I've consciously been, like, dude, I just want to play with these crazy bands I've been hearing. You know? Yeah. I've been playing with a lot of those bands. Dude, we'll play with those bands. They'll bring, like, 500 fucking kids to the show. We're like, whoa. You know, it's this band. And they're, like, a death metal band with, like, Scott breakdowns. You know? It's so weird. Because when you go to cities like Southgate, even me, because I'm, like, right here in East LA. Like, when you go into Southgate and Bell and Cudahy and Maywood, it's so, like, even for me, it's like, whoa. Like, not uncomfortable, but it's like there's something different happening. And it's like, you know, this younger generation playing, like, metalcore. Oh, yeah. And then it's like, no, it's like traditional death metal. And then it goes into, like, voodoo. With a very sloppy ska. Very sloppy ska. And then it stops. Crazy. And it gets into, like, the new metal. What the fuck? Do you think that Frank and Eddie and all those guys thought that they would, like, spawn this, like, death metal ska, crusty punk ska, like, all these styles? You know, I don't think there'd be Leftover Crack without voodoo. Leftover Crack is one of my favorite bands, dude. Rock the 40 Ounce. One of my top 10 songs. Rock the 40 Ounce. Yeah. But, like. Like, dude, it's just crazy. It's unbelievable how big these bands are. But they just don't tour. First time I saw. It's only LA. It's a local. It's a weird bubble of just activity. First time I saw Voodoo's Glow Skulls was at the showcase. That's the first time I saw Strung Out was at the showcase. Oh, yeah. Right. Toronto. That was the 90s. 90s. I'm the last person to ever sing on stage at the showcase. Was that the last show? Wow. Yeah. I was really proud of it. Who was on that show? Those were some fun shows. Some of the best shows we ever played, man. Yeah. It was so fucking hot. Who was on that place? Yeah. Who was on that? It was us and Sayosin and some other bands. I don't remember. It was a really random build. Like, Joe Case. Joe. Joe Case. Joe Case just picked all his homies that he just really, really liked and remembered having good times with from the showcase and just put a build together. That's cool. Completely different bands. And it fucking was the coolest vibe. Like, all the Sayosin kids were, like, just rocking with the DBS kids. You know what I mean? It was just fucking fun. So cool, man. That's awesome. That's how it's got to be. It's awesome. Hey, I got a question. A Valley question. Is Glue Gun from Simi Valley? Remember Glue Gun? Glue Gun was a great band. I think they were from, like, West Hills kind of area. Maybe some of the guys were Simi. Because I know Bob Odie was in a band. Bob Odie was, yeah. He was in a band with Jordan back in the late 80s. What band? The Grimm. Jordan. The drummer of Strung Out. Oh, okay. So I think they were around that same West Hills area. Maybe. Yeah, I knew they were, like, very Valley, but I wasn't sure what area. Like, they were deep in, you know. It's like the West Side. Yeah. And it's funny because I've been listening to... I've been listening to an old CD called The Scene Is Not For Sale. Oh, yeah. And I think that's rad. It's such a great album. Yeah. They were good. They were on that CD. They put on a crazy show. They'd come out with, like, TVs on their heads. TVs? Yeah. Horse heads. Really quick. You forgot to mention Roman Empire. You actually remember that? How could I forget, dude? Oh, my God, man. Carlos played drums, right? Yeah, he did. That's right. Roman Empire's a good band, man. No, Carlos didn't play drums in that. Actually... Roddy played drums. Roddy played drums. Yeah, he would do good footwork. Part of the FYP family of bands. Yeah, Roddy played drums. FYP, man. Roman guitar. And Ricky played guitar. Jen and Todd. Roman Empire. Roman Empire, dude. How could I forget? What a great name for a band, too. Yeah. Remember that? Just ripping. Oh, my God. Ben Peter has always had a, like, cool scene. From Mike Watt to FYP. Those parties on 4th Street. Todd Condolier's house from FYP. I don't know where he found it. The neon sign. Like, he stole it from somewhere. So you go to his house. There's a neon sign on his front porch that said, Miracle on 4th Street. Like, right here. And, like, the dude from Thrasher lived next door. And there was a half-pipe. And they're just playing. Everyone's skating. Like, I was in paradise when I was younger. You know, like... I remember that. Speaking of San Pedro, Sacred Grounds. Wasn't that a... Yeah, Sacred Grounds had all the shows. Yeah, I used to go see shows there. Wow, that's crazy. Remember that place? Yeah. Pretty awesome. Okay, so... Waters Club. Oh, the Waters Club. I know there's Harold's place. Yeah, I saw it strung out, the Waters Club. Waters Club. Did you guys play there in San Pedro? Maybe. I don't remember. Wow. Waters Club. I remember the Waters Club. Yeah, I saw Gwar there. Gwar and L7. Yeah. That was the only time I went there. That was a pretty big room, huh? Pretty big, like a house of blues or something? In the 90s, for sure. It was a pretty big room. Didn't they have, like, a waterfall in the back or whatever? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Wow. There was a lot of big shows there for a while, I think. But, okay. So, I want to get back on focus here. And I'm the most on focus guy ever. See you guys. Are on a hiatus right now from the studio, but you're taking a break. You're about to go back into the studio pretty soon. You guys are working on a new strung out record. Yeah, we are. We've been. Tell me everything. Produced by? We're working with Kyle Black. Mm-hmm. And it's turned out really good. Tell everyone who doesn't know Kyle Black, like, some of the records he's worked on. He did a Newfound Glory record. He did the last Comeback Kid record, or it's just about to come out, I think. Shy Halude. Oh, I love Shy Halude. Alpha Omega. He's also, you know. Assistant engineered on a bunch of stuff like Paramore and Neon Trees. A bunch of random stuff. Shy Halude did a really interesting thing with one of their last records. Matt from Shy Halude, he had all these tunes. He's like, yeah, we got to go on tour and we need a singer. And he just posted a thing online. I saw it on Facebook. It's just like, here's these instrumentals. Send me your vocals. Nice. It's cool. Just anyone. It was really cool. Yeah. It's a rad concept. I wrote them. I was too late. I really like Shy Halude a lot. It's rad. Yeah. Yeah, he gets great sound. So, yeah, we got a lot of the tracks done. And then we had to take a bit of a break because he had another project. And now we're going back in beginning of June to finish it all up. Right on. So, is there a tentative title? Can you let us in on any? It's called Transmission Alpha Delta. Transmission Alpha Delta. Oh, that's cool. And we actually just, we're doing a thing where each month until the album is released in September, we're going to release a painting because Jason, our singer, is a gnarly painter. Excellent painter too. Really good. So, he's doing, we're trying to, you know, bring the whole fun, the fun back into music. You know, we're trying to bring the whole experience back about, you know, going on and buying a record and opening up and reading the linear notes. Holding, holding physical product. How cool. Spinal's very important. Yeah. You know, we're trying to get that excitement back of like what we're all into, you know. Something tangible. You know what's amazing? Something tangible. I always, we always talk about this and you just nailed it. I just think that like, even though there's, you know, scenes grow and, you know, because the internet makes things accessible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It makes it all more mystique, the excitement. Yeah. And it's like, you know, we used to go to like even smaller shows. Like, I'd get there when the doors open. Yeah. And, you know, not take it for granted. Like, I'm staying. Everyone's, yeah. I got a friend from Oklahoma who just moved here. He's like, yeah, when I saw like Black Flag on the My War Tour, like, my mom drove us by and like the cops were already there before the doors opened and Rollins was talking to the cops and she's like, nope. And like, he opened the door anyways. All his friends like fell out. Yeah. While the car was driving. Like, whatever it took to see a band. Yeah. It was intense. You know what else it took? It took, like, I had to open up the record. What T-shirt is Dennis wearing? We got some music to play. That's the record I'm buying. You remember doing that? Yeah, we're doing it. Special experience. Oh, this is Dennis' record, by the way. Oh, cool. Dennis brought some jams, right? Yeah, we're going to be listening to some Free Moral Agents and a mix of tunes from the Goodfoot, too, as well, that you brought with you. But I'm showing this on camera. Free Moral Agents LP. Tell us a little bit about this record. That's a record that we, each song was recorded at different times, all of them produced by our keyboard player, Ike Owens. Of Pocket Lent? Of Pocket Lent. Yeah. You're bringing it back, aren't you? Yes, I am, dude. I was at all those shows, man. I'm a fan. I'm a fucking fan, dude. And, yeah, like I said, there's a couple remixes. Well, there's a remix on there by this producer named Hudson Mohawk. There's some alternate versions of stuff that was on our album. There's a full-length record that came out before that, and there's a live version of a song that was on our record, a song called Ageless. And there's a CD of that that just got released a few weeks ago in Japan, and it's called, the vinyl is called Chain Infini, and the CD that came out in Japan is called Chain Infini Plus because we added some extra tracks on it. I love this art. The album art looks killer. Who did this art? The artwork is by a local Long Beach artist by the name of Mati Sibara. Uh-huh. And he's great. He's really, really good. He does a lot of calligraphy-style art, and he's really excellent. I love that Ike produced this. Ike gets rad, man. Yeah, Ike's done a lot. He's got a talented brother, too. You know, there's a theme that dudes with the last name Owens. Ike Owens, Aaron Owens, Dennis Owens, Tim Owens, that used to be in Death by Stereo, Tito. Like, yeah, you know. Buck Owens. Buck Owens, yeah. It's really crazy. It's crazy. I love that. I got a question for the Strung Out guys. You guys, you know, obviously have been around, you know, putting records on what? Fat Records, right? Yeah. You're the longest running band on Fat Records. Most consistent. Fucking awesome. And you know what? I said to Chris earlier today, I'm not into reunions. I'm not in. You know, I'll go see a band. It's cool if they're good. They're good. But I'm not into bands doing reunions. I'm into bands that didn't give a fuck when shit was cool or not cool that stuck it out. That's what I love. That shows. That's your band, dude. You suck it out. Thanks, man. And. That's what makes you so much cooler of a band. I don't care if Minor Threat played a show tomorrow, it would be irrelevant to me because you're still a band. No, no. Okay. Yeah. So that leads me into this. It's like you guys have like, you know, done festivals in Europe and have been thrown into situations that your booking agent puts you in. Has there ever been like a festival show or like you'd play with a really huge band and you're just like the little kid comes out on you? Yeah. Every show. I think the little kids, you know, like we're always trying to, I'm trying to live up to the 15 year old Jake. Right. No, no. I mean, you, you, you guys, you guys as, as fans of music because what we're talking about earlier was how you want to make it exciting again. Do you, have you guys ever been in a live situation where you, where you go out and play a festival with, you know, a band that's doing like a one-off and you're like, whoa, and you're actually kind of starstruck. Oh yeah. Yeah, sure. We, well, that happens a lot, you know, definitely, you know, when you're, when you're playing in Europe, you get paired up with all kinds of random bands and festivals. Incredible bands. We had one where we played, it was us. It was us, Everlast. No, I'm not saying that was it, but it was us, Everlast, Papa Roach, and Belver Revolver. And it was, it was so random. And Die Artsy, that German band. Oh, Die Artsy. Die Artsy. Dude, they're like the biggest band ever in Germany. It was cool like to just watch. It was crazy. Yeah. Like, next to like Kobe Nick, and then like Scott Whelan. Yeah. It's just like, okay. Yeah. It was all these crazy people. It was just a weird like, just us, then there's like Everlast, and then Papa Roach. It was, it was like so weird, then like seeing Slash, then it was just like, what? Like, where am I? If you guys played with that, there's this German band that's always on all the German festivals. We played with them. The Boss Haas. I've heard that. They're the German band, and they do, they do country, they do country versions of just like hits and heavy metal songs, and they're so fucking big in Germany, and they're on every, we played so many festivals, and we get there, it's all, the Boss Haas on the poster. We're like, yeah! And we all go watch. Yeah, I miss that. I had a friend's band just play Hellfest. Oh, cool. Top and Kiss. In France. Wow. Hellfest in France. And he was like, like sending me pictures, like, Kiss and ZZ Top backstage. It's only out there too. That's killer, right? That's pretty awesome. Have you guys ever played Grass Pop in Belgium? Oh, Grass Pop. I don't think so. We played there, and in three days, like obviously we were on a small stage in a parking lot three cities away, but, but, but what was bizarre was the headliners for each day, it was Kiss, Aerosmith, Soulfly. Oh, people don't realize how big fucking metal is in Europe. Like, Soulfly's a big band here. They're a really big band here. So you guys were on their side stage for that? Max, yeah, Max Cavalier is a legend in several, and we know they're big. Everyone loves Soulfly here, but in Europe, they love Soulfly. I'm playing the same stage as Kiss. I was just like, wow. I've never seen anything like this in my life. You see all the back line and shit? Well, I was standing on top of our bus four miles away with binoculars, but man, I've never seen anything like this. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. It's cool to see. That's cool, man. Yeah, it's cool to see how it translates across, you know, in Europe. What bands are way bigger there than they are here, and vice versa. like, phenomenally big, like you guys in Australia. Yeah, that's our weird state. So popular in Australia. It's insane. That's a great place to be big. I went there with you eight years ago. Going with you again in May. Yeah. But, I remember people telling me that Jason Cruz, the singer from Strung Out, Angel telling me, he's like, dude, like, I told him, all these kids in Australia wear white belts. When I was with you guys, he's like, it's because on the last tour, Jason wore a white belt. You set the stage. Yeah, I was all, what? Like, you, dude, Strung Out's huge. I was like, whoa. It's that SoCal culture in Australia, right? Well, yeah, it's a very skate, surf culture, you know, so that side of our culture just translate exactly, you know, their way into it. And, you know, when we first started going there, there weren't a ton of bands coming over, so we kind of got in at a good time. That's great. And really endeared ourselves to them. So, you know, now they get a lot more bands coming through, which is cool. But, yeah, you know, for some reason, we've stayed, you know, pretty, pretty popular. One of the most Mexican things I've ever seen. What? Because it's something that me or you would totally do. We're in Australia, right? And we get there, and I find out that in Australia, there's this weird thing with Mexicans and Dickies, and like, like their Dickies are really expensive. $165 for a pair of Dickies. Well, it's important. You go to the mall and the skate shop, and there's like a cholo on the poster, and they just think, it's like a style or something. I was so, remember, I was really infatuated with it. I kept like talking about it, and like, we would go walk around stores and look, and then like, we're by the merch table, and Jake just walks up and plops a giant suitcase, and opens it, and it's just full of Dickies. Yeah, I was seeing them. Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah, I was seeing them. Yeah, you did. And all the kids are buying Dickies, dude. He brought Dickies at the merch table? I'm all, man, I would have done the same shit. It's like the black market. Yeah. That's the black market, right? I'd see them for sale for like 100 bucks in the shops. Yeah. I'm just going to pay 20 bucks a pop and bring them over, sell them for 60. It was like $75 for a jacket. Triple your money. Yeah, and you know, I just had to carry an extra bag with me, but like I made, you know, good money, and I got them to the kids for less than they had to pay, you know. Sorry to all the Australians listening, I get Dickies for $14. Yeah. It's a good profit margin. Good to know. Seriously, bring Dickies, bring like Converse, All Stars, like anything like that. All the American hamburgers and french fries, right? Just all the basic stuff. You know what they have in Australia? It's incredible meat pies. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's like the donut shop, but the tray is full of these little pies, and all these different flavors, and they're meat pies. Dude, we were just eating. It's so good. Dude, I gained like 40 pounds in Australia. Easily, easily. So Australian food culture, it's very meat oriented. It's like England and California mixed, you know. Like there's fish and chips, chicken, meat pies. Yo, kangaroo is stank. That's just gross, dude. Hey, so, I want to listen to some of Dennis' jams. Yeah, I think we got the Goodfoot CD loaded first. We're going to hear that stuff. It's a bunch of tracks. Yeah. That you've been playing at the Goodfoot. Yeah, it's a compilation that me and the other DJ, Roddy, put together that we gave out on Christmas night, because we do a Goodfoot Christmas at Alex's every year. It's a free thing every Christmas night. I love that. Yeah. Well, let's take a music break. Yeah, this episode, episode 121, brought to you by Thrasher Magazine, the CamiStar blog, and, did I say this? La Mascota Bakery in Boil Mates. La Mascota is so good. And Aditos. I know you're like an LA, like, searcher. Check it. Goodbye. Goodbye. You've been cheating on me. You know I know it's true. But ain't nobody in the whole wide world gonna love me like you do. Won't you be no fool? Won't you be no fool? You're gonna keep on fooling around now, baby. You're gonna mess up a good day. Oh, yeah. You're gonna mess up a good day. Now, I might have cheated just a little bit, like all the other ones do. But when I get my paycheck, baby, I rush right home to you. Don't you be no fool. Don't you be no fool. You're gonna keep on messing around. You're gonna mess up a good day. Oh, yeah. Gonna mess up a good day. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶ People, people, come and gather round, y'all. ¶ If you think you can stand it, stop. ¶ Listen to this message, little old anyways, ¶ Bring it to the planet, listen. ¶ Black and white is fighting each other. Throwing up these signs, calling one another brother. Listen, space isn't work. So they say, y'all, who are we? They said this is the day. Ain't that a message? Ain't that a message? Listen to it. Everybody can't be to blame, y'all. Listen, everybody's not programmed the same. Let me tell you. Different strokes, different folks. Listen, special stroke for the soul folks. Look, trains on the ground, spaceships in the sky. People on the planet just trying to survive. You better help them. If you know what I'm talking about. Ain't that a message? You better listen to it. It's anyways, anyways, anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways White or brown, black or blue This message goes to all of you Stop what you're doing to one another Shooting out the wind tonight at your brother You got to have a little loving and understanding You need a little justice in your home You got to love one another Show your bones I tried It worked I tried to be a righteous man I tried to give love all over the world But I'm tired of being you It's my turn It's my turn Love and be loved. It's my turn to get out the room. Let my spirit speak. I try to be a righteous man. Talk to the Lord most every day. Sometimes the struggle do me wrong. I keep to the path, won't go astray. When I start falling over, my feelings catch a flame. I be a man, say a man, but you won't be the same. If you ain't gonna do me right, I might just do you in. Ain't it a sin? Ain't it a sin? Ain't it a sin? I try to find a strength inside. To keep my soul from running wild. My emotions got the best of me. I kick and scream just like a child. I start falling over, my feelings catch a flame. I be a man, say a man, but you won't be the same. If you ain't gonna do me right, I might just do you in. Ain't it a sin? Ain't it a sin? Ain't it a sin Ain't it a sin When I start falling over My feelings catch a flame I'd be a man to say I'm mad But you won't be the same If you think you're gonna do me right I might just do you in Ain't it a sin Ain't it a sin Ain't it a sin So don't do me wrong And I won't do you wrong We're gonna do it right Ah! Ain't it a sin Come on Come on Come on Ain't it a sin It anyways anyways It anyways anyways It anyways anyways It anyways anyways It anyways anyways It anyways anyways It anyways anyways It anyways anyways It anyways anyways It anyways anyways Well, well, well Music makes me want to sing All right, let me sing Music, let me sing It's a nice day Music, I like that kind of thing I've been singing this song A long, long time Trying to get the message to you You got to feel what you do Whatever it is You got to feel it through and through I've been singing this song Gonna like it Feel it turn me on And when I want to get my thing together All I have to do is sing So I'm moving on Music makes me want to sing Well, well, well Music makes me want to sing All right, let me sing Music, everything is a nice day Music, I like that kind of thing Keep on stopping in the home And then one day The people gonna love Let me do my thing You let me give what I have to offer Gonna let me let my heart sing You got to love me Cause I want to, you know that I got to let me do my thing for you And when you get on down with the groove Now you're all set You want to get it through and through I'm moving on Music, it makes me want to sing Well, well, well Music makes me want to sing Right Let me sing Music, everything is a nice day Music, I like that kind of thing Come on, y'all Ah Ah Ah Ah Ah Ah Ah Music, I like it Music, I like it Let me sing Music, I like it Music, I like it Ah Ah Ah Ah We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. I went to the Christmas game last year against the Knicks, and I was stoked to see Gasol, Kobe, and Nash on the same court. Healthy. I think that was like the only week they were all healthy at once. Now, even though they're all considered older guys for the NBA, that's a pretty mighty lineup. I mean, when they were in rhythm together, right? Nash, Gasol, and Kobe. Definitely. What do you think? I mean, I haven't been following it that much in this season, but I loosely, but yeah, I see how it is. I went to the preseason game against the Jazz, because I went on scalp tickets from Mark Damone for 50 bucks. But yeah, I know their season's just, usually it's like the Lakers kind of pick up after the All-Star break. They kind of pick up and start doing better, but they're still not doing good. You know, Clippers are doing best in division right now. Clippers are amazing. You got to admit that. Yeah, well, they're doing great. You know, they are doing really good. And finally, you know, because I've been a Laker fan since the 80s. Okay. Since it was Magic, Byron Scott, Michael Cooper, you know, Kareem. Kurt Lambus. You know, Lambus. Clark Kent. I was when I used to go to the Lakers games. I was way in the Lakers late 80s, yeah. Speaking of Magic, you remember the Magic Hour? No. Remember his TV show? No. You never saw the Magic Hour, you guys? He had a talk show. It was like, oh, Jay Leno. Didn't Howard Stern win on the show? Yeah, totally berated. And he had a keyboard. Yeah. Howard Stern went on and had a keyboard. Yeah, I told him, like, yeah, because Howard Stern would just bag on him on his radio show saying he had, like, the worst talk show ever. Yeah, so he invited him on for a chit-chat. That's how it is. Howard Stern's sitting in front of you, like, saying, like, you're horrible. Well, he went on there because he felt sorry for Magic Johnson. And he liked some, you know. Yeah, yeah, he liked Magic, but it was like, you know. He let him have it. Yeah, Magic apparently wasn't, like, best. You remember there was Debo's in the crowd. You remember that? The guy who played Debo, Tiny Lister, Zuzan. That actor, he was in the crowd. Oh, Zuzan. He was in the crowd. Dude, I saw him. I saw Debo in the Arsenio Hall show. Yeah. That's what's up. Like, yeah, yeah. Megadeth was on Arsenio Hall. Really? Yeah. What? Back in the day, yeah. And they played Hangar 18. I spent the night on Gower sidewalk to see Kiss. And you know what? They all came out and signed autographs. Where at? At the Gower studio? At the Gower studio. Yeah. By the Gower Gulch? Yeah. Dude, Kiss. You spent the night. Nice to be over there. Yeah. Senior year, man. That's awesome. I spent the night at the Seastrung out once in the hotel on tour. Yeah. Cuddled up next to each other. Okay. Let's talk about how you guys listen to music these days. Is it vinyl? It's not for me. I'm just, I still, I go to Amoeba all the time. I'm at Amoeba once a week. You love that place, right? Yeah. I love it. And there's a great restaurant next door that has awesome cookies, too. So that's like my reward for buying it. Bonus. I go, great cookie. But yeah, I go to Amoeba all the time. And I'm always, you know, why don't I just buy Gang of Four not long ago and like some old Sugar album. I'll buy Weird. I like Sugar. Then I'll walk out with like that. That's Bill Mould, right? Yeah. I was just listening to them last night. Yeah. That's why we mentioned them. You know, I saw, you know, in the 90s, I was working for Priority Records, a rap label. Okay. And that's when, you know, gangster rap was big, right? But we had a rock. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we had a band called the Rugbirds from San Diego and Magna Pop. And Magna Pop was on tour with Sugar. So I went to the Palladium to see them. And I was like, dude, Bob Mould. Because I'm all about SST. Right. Right. That's like my thing, you know. Bad brains. I remember the old SST store back. I remember going to the SST store back. Oh, I'm going to SST. SST Superstore. Walk away from the whiskey. Yeah. SST Superstore. Pat's Mirror. Pat's Mirror. Yeah. Okay. I used to take the bus from Whittier. And I was like in high school still. And I'd go buy like a Sonic Eats CD. and like just hold my bag open and go give me more stickers okay cool get on the bus and go home and I remember when it was closed I called SST in Long Beach that's why I met Greg again I was like hey I was like um you know I like the SST superstore because you go you know I love all your releases and you get to go there and it's just nothing but your stuff is there any way I could go to SST he goes yeah sure come so I started going and I was a huge black flag nerd like this hit solid state then Armstrong like that whole sound and like so when he let me in he like walked me through the um warehouse and I was like I'm not gonna talk about black flag because then he'll know I'm a fan so Greg and I are huge baseball fans and basketball fans he loves those two sports so that's our bond right so we talk about baseball black and uh and not black flag but basketball so I would do like every month I go buy stuff and he let me go to the warehouse and then that led to like be becoming a friend that's why I ended up working there right but the SST superstore yeah Pat Samir man like and until Nirvana scooped him up crazy right yeah that's huge yeah I have a great Amoeba story to tell you guys speaking of Amoeba Records one of the greatest stores who we've had the owner of Amoeba on the mark Weinstein the guy who owns all three was on here and I asked him legend what's your most magical music moment he goes watching Paul McCarty sound check in my store he's like I was crying I saw Jay mask is there over the summer he performed was that that solo acoustic yeah yeah no big deal I jammed there with coolio once it was actually accidental I was there too I was just there no big deal I just dropped that bomb no big deal I just jammed there with coolio whatever like fantastic oh that old thing one time this is when we were on epitaph records for a time and so MTV was anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways Just call a rock label. Epitaph Records. We need a band to do this thing with Coolio. We need one of your rock bands. Just assuming all their rock bands are big rock bands, you know? And so I think it was Josh called us and he was like, hey, man, I'm calling you because I just knew you'd be fucking psyched and you'd say yes. I knew you'd say yes because it's ridiculous. I'm just going to give it to you. I'm like, oh, thank you so much. This is so stupid. So fucking, dude, we go to this Swing House Studios in Hollywood. We go there and we go there and we're standing outside and we're kind of like playing basketball because they had a basketball hoop because Coolio was super late, right? And I don't know where the gate opens. This big hummer is like, and the stereo just fucking so loud. And he gets out and this dude gets out, doesn't even close the door, turn it off, stereo's blaring. He just comes out and just takes the basketball from our guitar player. He just starts fucking going for it. We're all, yeah! Fucking Coolio's awesome! And then he looks at us because he's assuming the big record label sent the giant rock band. Yeah. Coolio looks at us and goes, y'all look taller in person. And we're like, no way. This is so fucking awesome. I fucking love you. And so we had to learn a Coolio song and we had a jam and I just had Lex sing this chorus, you know, behind him and he just would kind of like do his thing. And the show, like the kid. You know, they're like, oh, you won this contest or whatever. And you get to go fucking hang out with this band from Epitaph Records. Oh, cool. I love punk rock. Then when he gets there, it's us with Coolio! Surprise! Yeah. And then we had to like, he had to work with us and help us with the thing and he's all awkward. And then we end up at Amoeba Records for our big show. And then like, so we fucking were there and then they tricked the kid into thinking like, oh my God. Coolio comes in. He's all, yo, cuz. Yo, sister outside. And he's like, yeah. And he goes, go outside. And he goes outside and there was fake blood on the ground and an ambulance going away. They're like, your sister got beat up by skinheads. That's MTV shit. I swear, I swear. That's so lame. And then he's like crying and fucking like, and then I just felt bad. He was like this little kid. And I'm like, oh my God. That sounds like the Ice House in Fullerton. Yeah, it does. And then I saw him in Ventura at the Ventura Theater at a Death by Stereo show. And he was like, yeah, man. Like a lot of people really fucking want to see this. Like, I'm sorry, bro. But Coolio, Coolio is this rad. MTV is like, yo, we'll take you to the Jones Cafe. And then everybody goes to fucking sit there and eat and fucking gets on the phone. He's like, yeah, man, I need an eighth. You know? And he's like, bring it to the fucking Jones Cafe, blah, blah, blah. What do you want to eat? And the MTV guy that's paying for him was sitting next to him like, look at him like, what? And he's like, okay. The waitress comes up. He's like, I need two chicken sandwiches, some fries, and a little bit of a beer. And he's like, yeah, man, I need a beer. And he's like, yeah, man, I need a beer. And anyways, anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways It's like in the middle of fucking everything and he's like throws the keys at the dude And as the dude goes to get it in he's all have it detailed That's gangster do you guys know what and we're standing there like and he looks at us he's all to get your shit detailed, too I'm good like like a Chevy van, you know like like And so they like it just gets crazier and crazier. We're at amoeba was that all more in the bed Yeah, man, I saw coolio shoplift Yeah, and then he was like he was like an amoeba At one point one of the guys from TV was like coolio. I think it's so cool that you know You could be doing anything in the world you want but you're here doing this thing for charity and Helping show this kid the right way He's all I'd rather be fucking snowboarding right now He's off whatever Good idea. They go bomb. Yeah, we had coolio's number for a while We kept calling him he would answer and he would talk to us left our guitar players voicemail I found my friend Paul in New York from this band kill your idols this little hardcore band I'm a hold on a second. I just had him the phone. You just like talk to people for me I'm hanging out with him. He's weird man. I do people he told us all these weird stories and like he's like, yeah I've been everywhere. I went to Egypt one time. I'm a what was it like dude is I've born man I want to get like a fucking egg McMuffin or something I'm just like I'm just bummed dude That's a cool dude He goes everybody was inside the pyramid like meditating I wanna go to McDonalds He was super cool, but he was just fucking like so just like fuck all that shit, man I can do it Get McDonald's very simple guy very great guy. Yeah, he had the cool hair He was a really cool guy and oh in the quote of the century he goes it was homie ghost he's all it goes he's trying to talk to me about music and I was like And he's all what's that punk band I like He's a what that punk rock band. I like the one who wears all the masks Yeah He'll slip not he's like yeah, I love punk rock Yes, you do, you know what's funny when the skate master T was here Wednesday He had a stack of like physical photos like from like save on drugs like from the 90s and 80s and He was showing them to the camera and he had um easy Squatting down with like just dressed all gangster with like the leather gloves with his like the cutoff fingers Holding the scheme as her Tate Longboard like just the one I was like and I got just like that's so fucking killer Easy with a longboard player And the money mark. Yeah with money mark. Oh get this and then a tape tape of the living. Yeah, I know So so I booked game out your tape. He books money mark and Matt Skiba from alkaline So we got all three of them here weird as combo I go I go okay ski master Tate. You're the og Ski, that's it. You're the og whatever you want to do like your nickelodeon before nickelodeon You know what? I mean? Like? Skate TV you right I'm like, yeah, whatever you want to play you play he goes. Yeah, I'm gonna spin cassettes tonight He goes I got this cassette of Ice tea Booyah tribe Cypress Hill and kid frost passing the mic for three hours in my apartment Never heard Wow ever he's playing it on a Walkman. It's like all like Mean mark is just holding the mic for him to pick it up now and let me tell you why free anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways Just like pushes play, fades over to the other side. Microphone, eject, throws the tape out, grabs the cover. He's like has a clothespin and he pins it to the line. And then loads the tape in play, fade over. The whole tape scene in Mexico City, he does a lot of shows there. Exactly. Like the kids are like snort gasoline, the films, and like spin the cassettes all day, slow it down. It's crazy. And there's some great scenes. Sounds like they're very good at syrup. Yeah. In Mexico City. Crazy, right? In the FAA, there's this, let me tell you guys about this raging scene that's going on in the FAA. Well, I know about this because Money Mark went there and opened for this band called Hello Seahorse that I work for. I've tour managed. And there's this big deal in Mexico. They're a big deal everywhere. But in Mexico, they're a very renowned, popular band. And he produced a record, so they had him open for their concert doing his DJ set, right? So they said that the whole crowd was like. Like, nobody knew what was going on. He's playing Foreigner. It fades into like Debbie Deb. Tommy Shaw's solo record. Or whatever. Whatever he likes, right? Tommy Shaw, Alex Lashley solo. Right. One of the guys from Hello Seahorse ran out and gets in the mic and goes, you know, this is Money Mark from the fucking Beastie Boys. And the whole place is like. How rad is that, dude? That's ripping. Amazing. But anyways, that was a big tangent. But the cassette DJ thing is pretty revolutionary. That's pretty awesome. Question about. Taking a step backwards to go to the future. Right? Lakers. Okay. Here's the deal, man. Right to it. Okay. Here's the deal. I want to like the Lakers. Completely. But I don't because of this, like, the way they're playing. Okay. Ouch. Right. But. Does that make you a fair weather fan? No. Oh. No. I'm more of a Clipper fan. I'm honest. But like, I like the biology of me being from LA. It's like, I want the fucking Lakers to win. Sure. And I'm getting upset. I'm getting upset. I'm getting upset about it without even realizing it. Yeah. I know. I know what you mean. Yeah. Because they're giving us so much, so much wins for so long. So many championships. They've been the team. I'm getting frustrated for them. When they start having bad seasons, we, people kind of like lose their loyalty and kind of start to judge. Well, at least we'll do the Clippers now. I'm not even into sports. Fair weather fans. I'm not even into sports, but like, shouldn't you have to earn your fans? Like, whatever you do, it shouldn't just be a given. Yeah. Like a ban, right? If you're sucking, like, why should people just be devoted to you? Right. You know? No matter what the brand is before. Whatever. If you're losing. If you're into a certain porn star and she gets all dumpy, like, you're going to still If she's not shiny no more. Right. Then don't, don't buy her videos no more. Yeah. You got to keep that shit tight, right? Yeah. Game tight. Hey, quickly, can you remind all the listeners, we haven't at all tonight, that they can call in? You could call in at 800-893-9562 and we could talk about gangs. We could talk about public transportation. You can call in for your shout outs. You know what? Shout outs. Let me tell you something. Redline, this is for you. Yeah. Sunset, or no, Vermont and Santa Monica exit. Grand Burritos. Oh, yeah. I know that right there. Yeah. Dude, that is so good. I bring it up every time. If you go to the same exit and go just right and go down Santa Monica, Santa Monica to Virgil, there's a great taco truck. It's always parked out in front of the Virgil little bar. Does it rip? It rips. It's so awesome. Yeah. It's my new one I go to. I'm all about the taco trucks. Yeah. That's my new thing. It's like either a cholo or like just taco truck. Hey. Taco truck. Taco zone and Echo Park. We got to try it. That's the truck to go to. Okay. Before we take our second and last music break, I got to ask you, black flag or flag? I'm staying out of that argument. Black flag or flag? I like your stance. I say the original black flag. With Greg in, right? With all of them. Yeah. Yeah. Black flag or flag? I like flag because, you know, Bill Stevenson and Steven Egerton are pretty much heroes of mine. Right. So having them involved is pretty awesome. Greg in guitar? Yeah. No? Not really? Oh, sure. Yeah. He's great. I saw we played with flag and black flag over the summer last year and he's definitely great. You know, guitar. It'd just be cool to see all those guys get back together. You know, imagine seeing flag with Greg on guitar. Yeah. Or just how about like what it should really be is this black flag. Like we were talking this morning. Yeah. Just make it happen. Like they've got to like. You see, but here's. Rollins like. Yeah. Like here's where I defend Greg because he's the source of the sound. Right. Right. He wrote all the music, half the lyrics and that. And he, he, he developed a rad label for his band, Black Flag, which was the band that paved the way for everybody. And then signed bands like Soundgarden, Husker Du, Bad Brains, Descendants. And it's like, well, your guitar style, like no one's touched it. No one has. So it's like, just get Rollins, get Bill Stevenson and get Kira and do that lineup. Yeah. That's hell. That's never recreated. Yeah. That, there you go. That's what they got to do. They want to make it right. You know what's rad about Greg again? One time we played with you guys. No. We played with Pennywise at. The Vault. The Vault in Long Beach. I was there when he came up and played. Yeah. And that was, was that, that was Tyler came to see us to learn the bass lines that night. Anyways, we played The Vault with, with Pennywise and they're like, yeah, we're going to play a Black Flag song with Greg again tonight. I'm like, fucking, that's awesome. Fuck, I rolled up on a 10 speed. Dude. When I worked at SST. I walked in, put a guitar on. Dun, dun, dun. I'd go to the PO box. And I was like, oh, that guy's so awesome. He's so cool. He's not all cool. Trying to be like, oh, I'm Greg. Dude. Roll my back from my house. Greg Ginn is the reason why I take public transportation because when I worked for SST in like the early 2000s, he, he would come up here from Long Beach and to go to raves in his OP swimming trunks. Just fucking like. He's part of that club of what the lesser known punk dudes that were ravers. Like Joe Strummer was, was super in the jungle and he was at all kinds of raves and stuff. Everything. There's like old punk dudes. Super. Super. And rave. Wadi from the Exploited. When you're like. When he's not on tour. We've played with him before in Europe. That dude listens to fucking Gabber all day. If he's got headphones on, it's all. What? Everybody's like, yeah, all he does is listen to Gabber back there. I'm all, really? That's what he does. This is a fucking hardcore techno the whole time. Weird, huh? Anyway. All right. Last music break. We're going to listen to some music by the Free Moral Agents. Here we go. Let's do this. Your name is man. But you were never playing. You were never set. To cut off your head. To jump in and get. Or be a raptor. You stole my moon child. You stole my moon child. You stole my moon child. You stole my moon child. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Now we got coming up. All right. Next Goodfoot and Alex's Bar in Long Beach is on Friday, March 21st. All right. Anything coming up with the band? That's a good question. I'll get back to you on that. We were supposed to play on Thursday, but that got canceled. Where can we find out about the band and Goodfoot and everything you're doing? Okay. Goodfoot. Look for me on Instagram, DJ Dennis Owens. And also we have a Facebook page under the Goodfoot. And Free Moral Agents. We have a Facebook page and we have a band camp. And also look for us at Free Moral Agents on Instagram. Okay. Chris? We strung out. We have a show this month. We're playing in Solano Beach at the Belly Up Tavern on March 29th. I've seen RKL there. I saw Bad Brains there. RKL just played last night in Santa Barbara. Really? Yeah. Hey. That's his hometown, Santa Barbara. You recorded? You have something coming out? I have something coming out with Marty Friedman you played bass on. Plug that real quick. What? Marty Friedman from Megadeth? Yeah. I played on Marty Friedman's new album called Inferno. It comes out, I believe it comes out late April. It's on Prosthetic Records. Oh, on Prosthetic. Amazing. Anything you have, you've been working on on the side or anything? I'm just giving guitar lessons at home. Are you really? If somebody wants to get a, that's amazing. Hey, man. If somebody wants to get a guitar lesson from Jake Colley of Strung Out, how do they do that? Just write to jakeatstrungout.com. Dude, that's amazing. I want to learn the first form of Teleka Records, note for note. Oh, you got it, man. Amazing at guitar. I'm going to PayPal you the money. Yeah, it's been fun. I'm going to PayPal you the money and then I'm going to get a weekend $10 pass for Metrolink. Okay. And go from LA to Simi Valley. But you're not in Simi Valley, man. I'm close. Oh, let's take the red line. He's close, yeah. Let's take the red line, yeah. Yeah, dude. Even quicker. Any, plug your guys' websites? Well, we're just really doing our Facebook right now for stuff. We have a box set coming out in the middle of April, April 15th, I think. Okay. It's our first three records remixed. Plus a live DVD of us playing our second two albums live in Montreal. Yeah. Wow. A bunch of cool stuff on that. Really cool camera angles and stuff. It goes off for you guys in Montreal. Yeah. I've seen it. It's fucking unbelievable. That's going to be great. Yeah, then we go to Australia and May. We go to Australia. These guys are heavy hitters in Australia. I'm going with you guys in Australia and May. Nice. Woo! Can we let a little cat out of the bag about what's going on in Australia with your band? Oh, yeah. Really quick, really quick. Chris Aiken of Strung Out will be playing guitar for Death By Stereo in Australia. Yeah. Wow. Boom. It's released now. It's new. It's new. With the cats out of the bag. Now we got to practice. Now we're going to learn the fucking songs. Damn it. We have to actually go to band practice? Ugh. I was on autopilot. I was doing fine. Yeah. When there's a new guy, you got to re-teach everything, right? Chris. Good thing I learned. I learned like nine of the songs. I'm not Chris. I learned nine of the songs. I used to, you know, I played that one song. Actually, Chris has played bass with us on several occasions. I did. I filled in that one show. We did some shows with the cult together. Yeah. We played the cult in San Francisco and then I smoked crack afterwards. It was amazing. Did you smoke crack for the first time? It was the second time. By accident? By accident? Did you know? It wasn't by accident. But you were just like, let's party. Yeah. It got bad. Hey, man. I'm sober now. Hey, man. It's not just the catchy band name. You're going to have sober next week, actually. Grab up to that. Yeah. Congratulations. Chris is sober and very inspiring. This is the 121st episode of Los Angeles Nista. Hey, Eddie, thanks for letting me do this with you, bro. No, you're amazing. Guys, thank you for coming out. Thank you, guys. Thanks for having us. Everybody, Los Angeles Nista on Instagram. Check it out. Yep. And this Wednesday, we got the MTA and the Dodger organization are going to come in here and talk about the free Dodger shuttle from Union Station to Dodger Stadium. Oh, wow. Oh, you got to tune in for that. And Friday, we got professional skateboarder Tom Knox from Santa Cruz. And on March 10th, Will Dogg from Ozo Motley. And the 24th, Caden from Hyrax. Boom. All right. Thank you. Stay tuned. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. 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