Well, it is a word that evokes many emotions in people. It's a derogatory racial remark that has divided people for many years. And a Jefferson County high school teacher has now received the longest suspension on record for calling a student the N-word. WIJS 11's defender, Renee Murphy, investigates what happened and why in this story you'll only see on 11. Valley Traditional High School is in the middle of a racial controversy right now. A teacher used the N-word towards a student. The word is only six letters long, but the impact is far-reaching. And we do want to warn you that some of the language in this story is strong, and it may offend you, it may offend some other people. But since this story is not just about the N-word, it's also about the teacher's intent and definition of the word, we have decided to leave it in the story for you to decide. And what did he say? I said, I'm going to say it specifically to you. Sit down, nigga. Keyshawn Chambers is a freshman at Valley High School, a Boy Scout, a football player, a member of the ROTC, an honor roll student. He was hanging around his teacher's classroom door in December. The teacher told him to sit down, and the teacher says that Keyshawn used the N-word first. And I just kind of was stunned a second. Well, then, get away from the door, nigga. Yeah. And I was. And I just, I repeated the same insult because that's sort of what I've been trained to do. The school district says that is not what they trained English teacher Paul Dawson to do. He tried to say I said it, and I didn't say it, and no one else in the class knows that I said it because I didn't. Documents from the school investigation show that several of the students interviewed from Valley did not hear Keyshawn say the N-word first. Dawson says that students used the slang version of the N-word first. He says that students use the slang version of the N-word at Valley High School all the time. He says N-I-G-G-E-R is a racial slur, but says that students use N-I-G-G-A as often as they'd say dude or hey man. And Dawson says as much as he does not like the word, he'd still use the slang version to feel more comfortable with black students. Why is this word used so frequently? So I just, I just don't understand it. And I'm trying to understand it. I need help. Yes, I use nigga. I've used it. I admit it. I put the H on it to emphasize it's nigga. You know, nigga, nigga this, nigga, nigga please, nigga. You know, can you lend a nigga a pencil? What kind of example are you setting for your students if you use a word that you don't want them to use? Upon reflection. Upon reflection, that's not good. Dawson was suspended for 10 days without pay from January 9th to January 23rd. And he has to go to diversity training. He says that he's learned from this experience and hopes that others think twice before using the N-word. I will never say any form of nigga. You know, I'm cured of that. Paul Dawson says that he is sorry for the way things were handled. But Keyshawn says that he is not looking for any apologies. I'm sorry. We'll do it live. Broadcasting from downtown Los Angeles. We'll do it live. Fuck it. It's the More Music Radio Pod. Do it live. I'll write it and we'll do it live. On skidrow.la. Fucking thing sucks. In five, four, three. What the fuck? G-G-A. It's okay. How are, can you, can you get a nigga a pencil? Hey, so. Use it in a sentence. So tonight we have comedian Jamie Z sitting in tonight. What's going on, man? That is me. I'm well. Yourself? Doing all right, man. Thank you for having me. Yeah, we're just enjoying getting here through the art walk tonight. I enjoyed the drive out here as well. Oh, man, I fucking hate that fucking art walk. I thought I was at a... I fucking hate this town. No offense. I mean, I love it. I would perform here all the time. When I was first driving it up, I thought it was like an old lady convention because there's all these like old lady sweaters everywhere. But it turns out it was just a bunch of dudes. Yeah, just a bunch of grave robbers who fucking took the clothes off a corpse and stuff. Took their sister's pants and ratted out tops and hats. Yeah. Fucking tight pants, man. Yeah. Yeah, we're running late today. And also, we're going to try to talk to Poor Man. Remember Poor Man from Loveline a long, long time ago? Back in the day. Yeah, he did Headbangers Ball. I remember that. He was really good. Oh, yeah. No, that's a different guy. Oh, no. Okay. Yeah, that's a different dude. This guy worked on Loveline? Yeah, and he did Poor Man's Bikini Beach afterwards and stuff. And he's going to be moving to New York and stuff. So I want to talk to him about working with Dr. Drew and doing lines of cocaine with Dr. Drew. We'll see if we can get him on the... Wow, he gets down with the cocaine? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, that's what I read. He can really stick it to him in the ratings right now. Oh, he got down. Remember in college? It takes one to know one. I guess that's why he has celebrity rehab now. Right. You got to actually have been there to actually know what you're talking about, I guess. Those therapists, they're twisted themselves. But anyway, we're going to jump in. We're going to jump into the first couple songs. And we'll be back with comedian Jamie Z on the More Music Radio Pod. That's me. Hold up! Wait a minute! How you got the right bit? Hold up! How the fuck up? How you got the right bit? The More Music Radio Pod. Broadcasting internationally from downtown Los Angeles on skid row.llll. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Oh, listen. All right. The anticipation. Yeah. Pick up the phone. Portman. I couldn't even describe that sound. Portman. This is Jim Trenton, the poor man. If you'd like to leave a message regarding any aspect of my life, do so after you hear the ringer five times. It's a microwave. Your burrito's done. Hot pockets. When you have finished recording, you may hang up or press one for more. Should they pass now? Hot pocket needs to pass. Portman, your burrito's done. Hello, Portman. The five beeps means the burrito, you can take it out and eat it now. Two minute. Well, this is Skid Row LA. Yeah. The More Music Radio pod. The More Music Radio pod is calling you. We'd love to catch you. Yeah, man. We tried to reach you tonight. I don't know. Hopefully, you're out with some bikini bras or something because then that would be a good reason not to talk to the More Music Radio pod. But anyway, man. If you can, Portman, give us a call at 800-893-9562. And anybody else listening and you want to call up and talk to us, call us at 800-893-9562. And yeah, call us back, man. Cool. Yes. We love you, Portman. Yeah. We want to talk to you about when you were doing cocaine with Dr. Drew because I heard that he never did that. Can we hang up so I can say that I don't really love him? You hung up, right? Yeah. Okay. Call us or don't. Well, cool, man. Well, shit. We have a comedian in the room today. So what's going on, man? You were telling me that you've been doing stand-up for like a year now. Yeah, a year, year and a half. I've been messing around, going around the town of LA. So what does it take to do stand-up, man? Basically, you have to be able to be willing to let everyone judge you every second of the whole time you're on stage. And you have to pour your heart out. Your poor, miserable, horrible life and let everybody laugh at you and hope that they laugh at you with your horrible life. What's the difference between stand-up and real life? I mean, for me, I mean, everybody always just laughs at me, just looking at me. That everything's a joke. That's the way I have to look at real life in order to do the stand-up. Everything is meant to be a joke. That's what it is. Right there. See? Come on, guys. So how did you get into it? What made you want to get up on stage and make people laugh? I don't want to do any other job. No, it's just fun. I don't do drugs anymore and it's a good high. It's a real good high. What do you mean by anymore? It's like while we're doing this show. Well, I mean, I drink and I smoke pot, so it doesn't really count. Right. Those aren't drugs. Those aren't drugs. At least one of them isn't a drug. One of them is accepted completely. I don't do the hard stuff anymore, let me say. But I get up on stage- What kind of stuff do you get into? Just smoking pot and doing drugs. Yeah. Yeah. I'm drinking beer. No, but what did you get into? Did you have a problem? Yeah, I had a lot of problem with anything and everything. Like people say, seafood. Like I saw drugs and I ate them or smoked them or did whatever. You did C drugs? I did all drugs. H drugs, C drugs, P drugs. Try everything once. That was my motto at one point in time. But I don't anymore and I decided to be funny instead and I went on stage. Because I was funny on drugs. Right. So I figured- So what made you quit? That they weren't funny anymore. My stories weren't funny. The police were getting involved. Now they're funny, but at the time they weren't so funny. When the police stop laughing, that means you got a problem. Yeah, when the police are not smiling anymore. And usually I could get them to smile. No, not these times. Yeah, man. So how was your... I mean, because I've always thought that- It might be cool to do stand up, but I have that fear of just going up and trying to make people laugh. I mean, it's bad enough that I'm doing this thing and I'm getting the hang of it. So tell us about your first time stepping on stage. Did you bomb? I mean, what did it feel like? No, I did all right. I took time. I wrote the act. I had people help me write the act, see what was funny. It took about five months and I went onto this open mic, did my eight minutes. I got a good response and I continued with it. There's been times where I have bombed. It's an interesting experience, but usually you don't end up making it a bomb. If you're decent, you don't bomb 100%. You can make a joke out of you bombing. You're like, okay, well, this isn't my crowd. This isn't the type of jokes that are going to hit them. So let's make fun of how horrible I am right now. And I'll get them. I'll get them on a few laughs and there you go. There's been times where I went on stage, dude, on an open mic just and been silent. Yeah. Just to see what it's like. But, and you get laughs by your own facial expressions. If you look panic, they'll laugh, but it just takes balls. Have you ever like said a joke that offended somebody that they got up and walked out? Yeah. Yeah. I've had a lot of ones where you hear, oh, where you just gone too much and people are turned off. I've realized abortion jokes go that way. Spousal abuse. It's not funny when a guy beats a woman, but it's hilarious. When a woman beats a guy. Right. So that's a little keynote on the humor factor. You talk about a guy kill. One of my jokes that I had was I was watching the news and I saw a husband killed his wife. And at first I was like, I thought it was horrible. Like, it's horrible. That's tragic. Sorry. It's tragic though. It was tragic. And it hit me at the heart. I was really sad. And then I was taking a shower later that night, like four hours later thinking about it. It was like, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I was thinking about it. It was just keeping me up basically. And I said, what the fuck was she doing though to make this guy's life miserable where he had to kill her. And I said that as a humorous joke and I basically got the, oh. So I learned not to say that one or switch it up where the wife kills the husband. What did he do to her? Not as funny. See. So, um, like, um, do you, did you have like a, a comedian, like a one on one? A comedian or something that kind of took you under his or her wing or something? It was a Carrie Oates and this girl, Judy Carter. I, uh, I did talk to them and then I met a couple others through going to comedy clubs and exchange numbers and just mingled and shot the shit. Got to know each other, wrote, had my shit shot. Their jokes wrote my jokes. They ended up liking my humor so I could help them out. They helped me out and it all worked. Where are the, some of the places that you perform at? Uh, the. I do the Woodland Hills, Woodland Hills, White Heart. They have a comedy night. Um, I got flappers Burbank. I do the you who room. Sometimes I do the main room. Oh yeah. We were at flappers me and my girlfriend, uh, last weekend. It's good. I liked that club a lot. Which room were you in? Main room or you who room? Uh, the you who room, the little room. Yep. I liked that little room. I have a show there coming up on the 25th actually. Oh cool. I'm going to go to the club. I'm going to go to the club. I'm going to go to the club. I'm going to go to the club. I'm going to go to the club. I'm going to go to the club. I heard the balloon. So like, um, how is it with the other comedians? Like, are they cool or is there like a rivalry and it's just kind of like, so. Everyone is awesome. There's from what I've met so far, even the big wigs, man, everyone is open arms and nice and willing to talk. If they got the time, they'll shoot the shit. If they don't, they're still there. Handshake. How you doing? Congratulations. It's nice. It's really awesome. Everyone is really supportive of everyone. There's no real hate there. Have you worked with any assholes? Um, no, no. Not that I knew there was one guy or some guy or some girl or some guy or some girl or some guy or some girl or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some guy or some No, no, not that I, there was one guy, I'll not name him at all, that I had. That's no fun. He was a promoter. I won't name him, but I've worked with many promoters and there was one that I just wasn't a fan of. I haven't worked with him at all since this time. So that's about it. Only one guy that I was not a fan of. Won't get into detail. What does he look like? Uh, he's got longer hair, a white guy, and that's about all I'll say. Oh man, white people. Oh man. I don't know if he has any tattoos. I didn't go into that depth, so I can't get into that detail. He has a clover tattooed on his wrist, his right wrist. What a dick. We're talking about you, Keratop. No, I have no idea. Is there anybody that you shared the stage with that you're just, like, wow. Tony Baker is absolutely amazing. Vargas Mason, amazing. Dove Davidoff, amazing. There's a shitload of other comedians that have been on the stages that I've been performing at, and it's awesome. It's just mind-blowing. Sometimes you never know. Stuttering John was one of my, like, I was really stoked on. Boo. No, I was really stoked on Stuttering John. I was happy about that one. Are you a Howard Stern fan? Yes, I am. Did you talk to him? Did you talk to him about any of that stuff? For a hot minute. It's like his whole act, basically. Really? Yeah, pretty much. You'd have to go see him. Stuttering John's doing stand-up? Yep, he totally does stand-up. I didn't fucking know that. Yeah, he does stand-up. I thought he worked for Leno. Does he stutter a lot? He does work for Leno, too. Yeah. What is he doing, Leno? I remember he used to hold the cup. Remember he used to hold that cup? He's just a writer now, I believe. Oh, okay, we got a caller on the More Music Radio pod. Caller, you are on the air. Hello? Dude, I apologize profusely. Are you guys still on? Oh, hey, what's going on? Is this poor man? It is. Are you guys on the air right now? Yeah, we are, man. We can barely hear you. I don't know if that's on your end or if it's on our end. Is that better? Yeah, we can hear you, yeah. Good. Yeah, you know what? I was just picking up my son from the airport, and I completely forgot I was supposed to be on with you guys. I absolutely... You guys ought to beat me up on the air. Well, did your son... Did your son get... Is your son picked up? Yeah, yeah, he's next to me. Then we're good. We're good. Huh? Then everything's good. Yeah, man. Everything is good. Okay, so I'm here for you as long as you guys need me. How long do you want me to talk? I'm driving, but... And I'm on my cell phone. I don't care. I'll get a ticket, whatever you want. Just be safe, man. We just want you to be safe. So, I mean, for those people that don't know, we're talking to poor man, and poor man is most famous for being... What is it? Co-creator? Co-creator of Loveline? Did... What... Were you... No, I am the... I am the creator of Loveline. Hmm. Okay, and... Yeah. So, like... So, tell us about that, man. I mean, you started it, and then you got Dr. Drew Pinsky on there, right? Yes, I discovered Dr. Drew. It's my fault. Yeah, it is. You did cocaine with Dr. Drew? What was that? You did blow with Dr. Drew? Yes, we did cocaine together back in the day. Dr. Drew used to tell me all the time, Jim, I love cocaine. No, it's really true. Back when we first met, you know, I met Drew at a party, and I was actually taking a shower. My friend invited me over to his party, and this was in Pasadena, and I was literally in the shower getting ready for his party, and he brought Drew into the bathroom and said, I want you to meet. And I was like, Drew Pinsky, and I was literally in the shower. Naked? You met him naked? It's okay, I'm a doctor. Like how you met the world and your mother in your birthday suit. Right, right. And so, you know, after that happened, then, you know, we hit it off, became friends, and eventually, you know, I did Love Line. I started it about a year before I ever met Drew, and we realized people would, you know, they tell their love problems, and, you know, they'd obviously, they have some medically related love issues. Right. So we knew we needed a doctor, and ultimately, he ended up on the radio giving medical advice, and the chemistry between us was great. We became friends. Nice. And people don't even know we did the show together for 10 years. But... Are you still in contact with Dr. Drew? No, no, I won't talk to the guy. He stole the show. Wow, so tell us... I mean, he literally... Tell us about that, man. Like, what... Tell us about the falling out, and, like, what happened with Love Line. Um, well, gosh, it's such a long story. I mean, how long's the podcast, you know? Hey, we could be here all night. Hey, we got an 18-pack of Tecate right now, so, I mean, we're all... It's all you right now. Well, you know, it's... I mean, I'm trying... Let me do the, you know, kind of the condensed version of the whole thing. Right. Is Love Line started out a one-day-a-week show, and it was a hit right from the beginning. Like, I'll never forget when I first put it on, kind of like us. It was at 3 a.m. on a Sunday night. Like, the phone lines just lit up. We just thought, you know, we'll have people, you know, call in with their love problems, because it was myself and Swedish Eagle. He was another K-Rock DJ. Uh-huh. And, you know, we'll give them advice. And back then, you know, just regular idiots on the air who, you know, were completely unqualified never were on the radio giving people advice. It was always a doctor or somebody like that. Right. But we decided, you know, our love lives were screwed up. And the second we said that, the phones just went bonkers at midnight on a Sunday night. They never stopped ringing. So we knew right from the beginning it was a hit. But for about eight years, we were only on one day a week. And then a year into it, we brought Drew in. And so when they went to five days a week back in the early 90s, at that time, I was doing six to nine at night on the radio. And I would get off. I would get off. And clubs would hire me to, you know, to host gigs at different clubs. So I was making, you know, 500 bucks for a two-hour appearance to chug a few beers and meet chicks. Right. And then they put Loveline on, you know, five days a week. And all of a sudden, I lost all that gig income. Did you get a lot of chicks off of doing Loveline? Dude, I got a lot of chicks off doing K-Rock. I mean, literally, here's my son next to me. I've literally, like, exposing myself in the worst way. But... How old is your son? If I tell you how old he is, you might figure out how old I am. He's 12. Oh, okay. No, no. He goes to college back east. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, yeah. He's in college. But, no, yeah. I mean, you know, K-Rock, by putting your lips on them, I'm like, I'll never forget, you know, meeting women was not an easy thing before I was on the radio. And the second I went on K-Rock, I became Brad Pitt. You know, all of a sudden, I could just get all kinds of women just because I was on the radio. I mean, beautiful, beautiful women that I would have no business meeting otherwise. Wow. And the answer to your question is, yes, it made it very easy. There's an end now. Darn it. I'll go to the next one. You know, I was watching a couple of women, old Wally, Wally, Wally George shows, man, with you on there, man. How was it working with that guy? I mean, it kind of seemed to me like it was kind of like he was putting on a big show and stuff. I mean, was that guy really an asshole or was he a nice dude? Or tell us about that guy. Oh, he was the best. You know, he should have been, I mean, you think about Wally George was like the original Jerry Springer. Like, for people that don't know, he was this white, white haired guy in his 50s or 60s. Right. And he was on a local channel and he would do these, these reactionary, controversial shows. Like he would have, like the head of the Jewish Defense League on at the same time as the head of the Ku Klux Klan, you know, or somebody. And they would almost go to blows. And then he would always throw, it was called the hot seat and he would throw people off. So he would have DJs on and it became very popular. It was an Orange County show. And so the audience would be filled with these, you know, just these complete, like redneck dudes who would want Wally to throw people off and they'd just trash whoever the guest would be. And so I was, he goes, uh, poor man, we want you on our show. And so he would, you know, he had Rick Dees on, he had people at K-Rock on, all kinds of people. And I, I thought to myself, the first time I went on, I go, if I go on there by myself, that audience of guys is going to eat me alive. They're going to just, ream me a new asshole. And, uh, so I decided it was all dudes in the audience. I thought, I'll bring on a bunch of girls in bikinis surrounding me and that way it won't matter. I could just be dribbling, you know, on the air. And I'm like, a complete idiot, but because I have the hot chicks, the audience will love me. And sure enough, I said, I said, these are, you know, I had girls feeding me grapes. I brought on like five bikini girls. And basically, Wally goes, you're disgusting. You're this, you're that. And the audience just, they, they love me because I have brought on these hot chicks and he threw me off the show. And afterwards, afterwards he comes up, he's shaking my hand. He goes, Jim, Jim, that was great. You know, bring on those girls. You were great. So yeah, it was, it was all a show. Off the air, he was, he loved, we were really good friends and he had me back on four other times and threw me off every time. Yeah, man, when, when he throws you off, that's kind of like the same thing when Johnny, when Wally Carson would invite a comedian to the couch, you know, that means he liked you or something, right? Yeah. But I think he threw everybody off. Yeah, no, Wally, Wally was behind the scenes with just a wonderful guy and he should have had a national talk show and for whatever reason, he just never, he was never quite there. And, um, do you want to know what my worst fear is? Yeah. Oh, you know how I have poor man's bikini beach. I don't know if you've ever seen that show or not. Right, right. I've seen that. You know, with girls, it's like on a local channel and everything. Yeah, you get them all in bikinis and wrestling in the sand and stuff and. Right, right. My biggest fear is I'm going to be the next Wally George and never go anywhere. I'm serious. And I love Wally, but I'm, I'm thinking I'm like Wally George now. I'm just like this, this local guy. It's either memories or I seen you on that public access show doing bikini beach, you know, and. What are you talking about? You were in a movie with Charlie Sheen, so I don't even sweat it. Winning. No, I said you were, you were in that movie with Charlie Sheen. Actually, you're just doing Love Line. Yep, I was in Minute Work with Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez. You're absolutely right. Yeah, that was a great one. and I were very good friends. And, in fact, I tried to reconnect with him about a month ago and he's, you know, because he's, he's on Twitter and he's got about several hundred thousand followers. So, we used to, he used to invite me over to his house for parties and Charlie would be there and, you know, when I was in Minute Work, I hung out with Charlie. Did you guys do a lot of drugs? No, he didn't do any drugs. That's the funny thing about it. I mean, the most Emilio ever did was make, he'd make marijuana brownies. You know, that was it. Marijuana brownies? I never saw Charlie do any drugs. And Charlie is a good guy. A really nice guy. Yeah, he has tiger blood. Yeah, tiger blood, right, right, in his one, like, stick cam show or his, whatever, whatever, that online thing as he did. Yeah, man, what do you think about that guy, man? I mean, do you think, do you think that he'll ever come back? I mean, is his career completely over? Oh, I think it was a horrible move. You know, when it happened, of course, he's going to get a lot of press, but he was on the number one comedy show on television. He was on CBS. Right. And yeah, you know, when he first did it, great, he's going to get a lot of publicity, but, you know, no, no, it was a terrible move. It reminded me of me being fired from K-Rock, but, you know, I wasn't as big, but, you know, when stuff like that happens, it's like very, very hard to get back in the mainstream, if not impossible. So tell us about the, your, your end with Loveline and like, what happened there? Like, why did you leave the show and what was the falling out between you and Dr. Drew? Well, the falling out between, well, first of all, when we went five days a week, as I said, I lost all that gig income. You know, I lost two to four grand a week by being on 10 to midnight. Right. And the station said if the show went, did well, because when we first went on five days a week with Loveline, they said, hey, it may last two days, you know, two months or forever. And so, you know, it was only a one day a week show for about eight years on Sunday nights. And so, you know, so it was an experiment because here was an FM music station, a purity music station putting a talk show on at night that was, that was a huge success on Sunday nights. Like, the reason they put it on five days a week is we have a 27 share for our audience numbers from like 10 to 11 at night on Sunday night. So when you have a 27, when you have a 27 share about how many people are listening to you? Well, let's put it this way. There's like a hundred radio stations on terrestrial radio in LA. That means one out of every four radios that were on were tuned to us. Now, Kiss FM, which is the number one station right now in LA has a 4.5 share. Okay? We had a 27 share in Los Angeles. Wow. In fact, in fact, when we went five days a week, one book, we were so huge, we would have been the third ranked morning show. And, and, you know, at night, there's a third as many radios that are on as there are in the mornings. So, I mean, it was a humongous rating. Humongous. Wow. We were, we were tied with Rick D's for number three rated morning show even though we were on at 10 at night. Where, where there just aren't as many radios on at night as there are in the morning. That's when most radios are on. But there's a lot more weirdos out at night. Yeah. The freaks. Yeah. So, so I got, I got thrown off the air. Yeah, so, so what happened? What was the falling out? Because, you were telling me that you and Dr. Drew became really close friends. And so, and now you're not even talking. You don't even want to talk to the guy. So what happened? What was the incident? And how did he steal your show from you? What happened was is that K-Rock suspended me because on my birthday, you want to just walk in? Okay, cool. I had to put my son on but he'll kill me if I do it, right? You want to say hi to the guys? Hold on here. This is a rare opportunity. Hold on. All right, cool. Okay, say hi to Nick. Hold on. Nick. Poor son. Hey, what's up? Hey, Nick, poor son. Your poor son. I don't like that name, but yeah. You probably heard that a bunch of times, right? I get that all the time. My dad gives me so much crap about that. Hey, so what was it like, man, when you're growing up with your dad being like one of the most popular radio personalities in LA at the time? Oh, man, you got to put me on the spot for this. They asked me what I thought about you when I was growing up and you were real big. I don't remember it, to be honest. I was too little. By the time I actually remembered, he lost it all. He was already at the bottom. So what I remember is him losing it all. You didn't get to bask in any of that. Any resentment? Did you harbor any resentment? No, not at all. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I love what my dad does and he's a real hard worker. Hold on. Let me give you the phone back to my dad. Okay. Good talking to you, man. Nice meeting you, Nick. Okay. He's going to order an In-N-Out. Hold on just a sec here. Yeah, man. Hey, how are you? He's Double-double animal style. Animal fries. He's got it animal style. Lemonade. Lemonade. Lemonade. Poor man and poor man and poor man and poor son are eating In-N-Out tonight. Hey, what's going on? Oh, okay. Is that all you want? Okay. You know, my son goes to school back east, so every time when I pick him up at the airport, the first thing he wants is In-N-Out. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah, because I don't have that over there. They have White Castles. I'll throw him back on. He's never been interviewed. Honestly, this is rare. You know, people interview me but not me and my son together. This is the first time we've ever been interviewed together, I think, isn't it? Well, let him know. It gets better. Usually, I feel he wants to murder me when I do this, but it seems like are you all right with this? Okay, hold on. Here he is again. Hey, Nick. What's going on, Nick? Yo, what's up? You waiting for that animal-style cheeseburger? Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Man, when you go to school outside of California, you don't realize how much you miss In-N-Out when you get back. Oh, yeah, man. So what are you studying right now? I'm studying chemical engineering. Oh, okay. Wow. That's like a real thing. Probably stuff, you guys. Yeah, it kind of sucks. Hold on. Wait, what? What, huh? When you were growing up, did you ever want to follow in your dad's footsteps? I mean, I think what he does right now is pretty sweet. Like Bikini Beach, if I could, I mean, heck, if I could ever run a real successful show like that, I mean, hey, I'd do that for the rest of my life, but... Do you ever get any bikini girls off of Bikini Beach? Man, I was like 10 years old at the time. I was looking, but it was hands-off, you know, I was a little kid. Yeah, that don't matter. You can still get your little pee-pee wet. Yeah, I've got that show quite a bit. Well, like, about five minutes at a time, because it's about all I need, really. Did you ever get to meet anybody famous that was hanging around with your dad or anything like that? Yeah, actually, back when I was probably in, like, middle school, when my dad was on Kiss FM, we got to go to a bunch of, like, Wango Tango and a bunch of the concerts that they hosted, and I got to meet a lot of the people backstage, and that was really sweet. Like, we got to go backstage with the VIP passes and stuff and hang out with some of the artists. Nice. We were with Gwen Stefani in her dressing room, remember? Oh, yeah, we... You boned Gwen Stefani? Yeah, on my, I think, like, 13th birthday or 14th birthday, we went to the Wolf at the Jingle Ball. Jingle Ball, right? She Jingle Ball, Gwen Stefani Jingle Ball'd you when you were 13? Yeah, and they started yelling at us because they said that we weren't allowed to be back there, and I just thought it was complete BS at the time, but it was still pretty funny. Well, yeah, man, you could say bullshit, too. I mean, we're uncensored here. The FCC doesn't have any hand in this. Yeah, it was total bullshit. Yeah. I gotta watch myself. I've never been on a radio or podcast interview before, so I don't know. Wow, we got the first interview with poor man's son, man. Awesome, dude. We just popped your podcast cherry. Yep. Hey, so, so did you get to know Dr. Drew also, or what do you think about the guy? I don't think I ever met Dr. Drew. Did I ever meet Dr. Drew? When you were a baby. Probably when I was a baby. He was at your bris. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. What? Nothing. He was at your bris. When he got circumcised, he was there. He did the circumcision. He did, man. That's why my life's so fucked up. Do you ever hear your dad, like, like talking bad things about Dr. Drew? We were talking to your dad about what the falling out was, and we didn't, we haven't got the answer yet, but did he ever say anything, like, negative? Like, do you remember the time when Loveline was, was kind of gone, and did he ever say anything? Oh, man. My dad's always complaining about Loveline. He absolutely hates Dr. Drew. I don't know how he's gone through this interview so long without, without any of that, without any of that resentment coming out. Oh, my. But you guys, you guys gotta check out his, uh, his Facebook page. It's, it's nuts. Like, it's, he has some pretty radical stuff on there. You guys, get a chance. Look up, look up, uh, I think, I think you can look up Poor Man, and you'll, you'll find him on there. It's pretty funny shit. Nothing but Dr. Drew hate? Uh, it's getting better. I, I, I'm kind of like, I'm, I'm like his unofficial, like, like, uh, like, agent kind of, because I gotta make sure he doesn't put stupid shit on there all the time. You're his editor. He's writing people. Yeah. You're his Facebook editor. That's good. So how was your, how was the home life growing up, man? How was what? How was your home life growing up? I mean, your dad's a popular radio DJ, and... Um, I mean, honestly, it wasn't, you know, it's not like any, it was like any other kid growing up. It wasn't really that weird. I mean, I thought it was pretty cool that my, you know, my dad got recognized a lot wherever we went, but, you know, other than that, it wasn't, wasn't any different than, you know, any of my friends. Do you have any brothers and sisters? Yeah. I have three half-sisters. Oh, okay. They're with, they're with my... So you only, half love them? Yeah. Yeah, well, I, I, probably less, but you get the picture. Probably less. All right, that's good. Well, cool, man. Hey, um, we want to talk to your dad about, uh, Dr. Drew. Did he, what did he order? What did your dad order right now from In-N-Out? He doesn't eat In-N-Out. I, I, he just takes me there whenever I get back. Oh, okay. It's a pretty sweet gig. What did you get? I got double, double animal style. Oh, awesome, man. Animal fries or no animal fries? Animal fries and, and burgers. Good job. Good job. Go big, go big or go home. Exactly. Exactly. Remember that motto with drugs, too. I don't know, man. I don't know, dude. I don't, I don't. Go big or go home. Just remember that. All right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pass the phone back to my dad, but it was cool talking to you guys. Hey, thanks, Nick. We really appreciate, uh, you talking to us, man. Yes, it was a good time. Yeah, no worries. No worries. And you guys, you guys can always say you were the first person to interview, uh, Jim Tretton's son, Nick Tretton. Cool, man. I'm glad we popped your cherry. A little shout-out to Johns Hopkins University. Cool, dude. Hey, and listen to the More Music Radio pod, man. We're on, uh, www.skidroad.la and, uh, you know, and if you want to call up and say hello, call up anytime, man. We're on every Thursday night. Yeah, that'd be sweet. Cool. Good talking to you, Nick. All right. Take care, Dad. Yep. Bye. Yeah, I completely forgot I was picking him up from the airport, and this is the first time we've ever been interviewed together, you guys. You got a, you know, you got a real collector's item here. Oh, that's cool, man. You must be really proud of your son, man. Oh, he's the best. Can't you tell by talking to him? He's super cool. And he's gonna be a chemical engineer. He's a biomolecular chemical engineering major, and he's, I mean, I know he's gonna kill me for this, but he's doing cancer research. That's his job. Oh, awesome. Maybe... Better than making math. Maybe he can work on me when I get it. Yeah, he can work on us all. You know what? I'll tell you where you'll really be jealous of him is that guess where he's living this coming year. I mean, he's... I mean, we all should be so lucky. He's living in his fraternity house, okay? So he won't remember where he was living when he graduates. They say you won't remember where you're living. You won't remember where you're living when you graduate. But now he's got women rolling through there all the time, I'm sure. The thing is, I'm still his dad and he's still my son. You know, it's not like we're gonna sit there and discuss our sex lives together, you know? So poor man, give us the dirt, man. What was the breakup? What was the breakup with Dr. Drew? The breakup occurred because, you know, after I got... I got some suspended for taking 300 listeners to Bean's Front Lawn at midnight on my birthday. Bean of Kevin and Bean? Yes. Bean got me fired from K-Rock. He... Back in the 90s, in the mid-90s, they were a struggling radio show and I was doing Loveline, which was the number... the first number one show K-Rock has ever had and because our ratings were so over-the-top huge, like, we were number one over... over double number two. And so we were carrying the whole station even though we were a night show and Kevin and Bean were struggling. I mean, they were almost taken off the air because they did this fake murder that was terrible. So, basically, on my birthday, they decided to... They knew where a key to my house was hidden and I woke up with their... their reporter, Michael the Maintenance Man, in my bedroom at 6.30 in the morning live on the radio. Yeah, I mean, it was a funny prank and I thought, you know, okay, you know, I went along with it, you know, happy birthday, they were laughing and okay, mofo, you know, the master will show you how a real prank is done and I was kind of jealous of those guys because they were doing the morning show and I was on late at night and, you know, and they were like the darlings of the station because then... the then management of K-Rock hand-picked Kevin and Bean. But no... Very few people know this. Originally, Kevin and Bean they originally tried to get Mark and Brian to switch from KLOS to K-Rock. So Mark and Brian wouldn't leave KLOS. At that time, they were really popular and so they created Mark and Brian in their own image by finding two white guys, one in Arizona and one in San Francisco and, you know, I guess Bean was in Arizona and Kevin was in San Francisco or vice versa and that's how they were formed to be like a Mark and Brian. Right. And so after they broke into my house, my return prank was to have my birthday party at a celebrity's house. So I told everybody that was listening to Loveline that night to meet me at the station and we would caravan to the celebrity's house and he was very excited to have all the listeners join me for my birthday party live on the radio. To make a long story short, 300 people showed up at the station and we drove, you know, to the middle of Hollywood or Hancock Park or, you know, or, you know, Silver Lake or wherever they was at midnight on a Thursday night. On a Thursday night, just like tonight and 300 people, what I did, I found out where Bean lived and 300 people showed up at his front lawn at midnight for my birthday party. Would you guys like play music? It's really, it's really funny if you don't want to know. I don't want to any longer have a career and I haven't. So that was, so that was the downfall of your career right there, that prank? Yes. Yes, I got suspended for the remainder of my contract. I had 16 months left of my contract and I was getting paid $180,000 a year at that time and they paid me for 16 months and I could have gotten a job at five radio stations in LA. I was one of the most popular jocks in LA. And, So why would they get rid of the most popular personality on the radio station? You know what? Huh? Why would they get rid of the most popular personality on the radio station? I mean, you guys were pulling in, I mean, that much ratings. Because I was a rebel and, you know, I was a leftover from the previous regime and they, they just, they were, they tried, they got me off the air before and they just didn't like the fact that I wouldn't listen to anybody and I just got on the air and ripped it up. Wow. And, I mean, I was, I was, you know, doing a talk show at night that was number one in LA by far. So, anyway, because of what I did with Bean, Bean didn't get suspended at all for having his feature reporter in my bedroom and I, I'll never forget the 300 people we all showed up at midnight, we knocked on his door and, and his wife opened the door and her eyes bucked out almost like she had been shot. She, I, we, we, you know, and she couldn't believe it. You know, there were 300 people on his front lawn at midnight and, so she slams the door shut and, and, and all I wanted to do is have Bean come out of his house and so he wouldn't come out and so the whole crowd started chanting, you suck, you suck, Kevin and Bean suck. You know, the whole crowd and then I guess they lit some bonfires on his lawn. Oh boy. There ended up being police helicopters, cop cars ringing the streets and, and that, and I, you know, it was, it's really funny. I, I've done crazy stuff like that on a number of occasions and you get caught up with it and immediately when the show's over you know that that's it and I, I knew the second that show was over that was the end of my K-Rock career even though I'd been there 12 years and, and they wouldn't let me back. They suspended me for the remainder of my contract and at the time we had a deal with Comedy Central, Drew and I to do Loveline on Comedy Central on TV with, with Creative Artists which is the biggest agency in Hollywood. K-Rock would never let me back on the air after that. Wow, you really pissed them off, huh? Really pissed them off and then I ended up suing them and that probably didn't help. I, I lost because Loveline was my show. I tried, you know, it wasn't even so much about me getting money. It was the idea that here was the show as my entire life and, and it was the number one show and I mean, you know, my whole life, my social life, my, my business life, everything was, you know, surrounded by that and I literally one day was number one and the next day I had nothing. Whoa. And to be honest, to be honest with you, ever, ever since I've tried to make a back, I mean, I've been on Power, I've been on Kiss, but nothing has ever, you know, rivaled being on KROQ and, and, and, So were you like blacklisted or something after that? You know, I, I think probably because I sued KROQ and then, you know, I, I got pretty bitter and, I mean, honestly, now I'm finally getting over my bitterness. It's only taken me about 15 years. Did you go, did you like turn to drugs or start drinking a lot after that? I mean, what's, what? No, I did. I've never, never been into drugs. I mean, I used to smoke pot a lot when I was young and I, you know, did coke with Drew, but I never liked cocaine. You know, Dr. Drew said that he never did anything like that. I just gave up. Pardon me? Dr. Drew, I think, said that he never did anything like that. He's like, he's always, he'll never, he'll never admit it. You know, I mean, I know many, I know even worse secrets about him, but I, I can't say them on the air, but, Oh man, I really wish you would. Three sums? What else has he done? You know what, the fair's, hold on just a sec, the fair's still going on for another couple days. I don't know if you want to go to the fair. We're just passing the OC fair. Oh, okay. Yeah. Did Bean not do anything? I actually went to the OC fair like a weekend before last. I didn't have anybody to go with. It was great, dude. I got there and I got recognized by all kinds of people that were buying me beers. It was fantastic. Did, did, did, did Mr. Bean help you out any? Did he stick up for your nothing or he just kind of was so angry about the house? You mean Dr. Drew or Dr. Drew or Bean? No, the Bean, Bean. Bean said he had to move because everybody knew where he lived. No, Bean, you know, Bean was never my friend. I never liked Kevin and Bean. Kevin and Bean to me are mediocre radio personalities. They both sound the same. I call them, I think they're genera. Yeah. They're like Belvedere cheese. They're, they're just, they're not K-Rock. I mean, you know, K-Rock is edge. You know, it is, it is, you know, there were cocaine deals going down in the corridors. I mean, I'm, I'm a, I've always been a rebel, you know, and I don't try to, it's not like I try to be, but I've always had, it's really weird. The audiences have always liked me, but the managements have always fired me. Right. You know, and I, but, but now it's like, it was funny. I was talking to Nick tonight right before, right, and I was wondering who he keeps calling and then luckily, he said, who keeps calling? I thought it was a fan and I go, oh my God, I'm supposed to be on with these guys. I completely forgot, which I apologize. Oh, no problem, man. You're here and you're giving us some great stuff, man. Yeah, I mean, well, you guys are good interviewers. I feel like I'm just talking to you on the phone and it's, you know, who knows where this will end up, but you have me and Nick together for the first time ever. Awesome, man. So, the thing with, with Dr. Drew, is it because he didn't stick up for you and is that how he kind of just like let you kind of fall? Right, once I got suspended, Drew, you know, by that time, we had worked, we, you know, we did Loveline together for 10 years. So, you know, we were best friends. We were in each other's weddings and I introduced him to his wife. She was a former head K-Rock bikini girl. In fact, Nick's mom was a K-Rock bikini girl. Are all, are all your baby mamas K-Rock bikini girls? I only, I have one baby mama. You know, I have only one child that I know of. It's Nick. You know, I'm, I'm pretty certain. I have no, I'm not like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Oh, all right. You're not banging the maid or anything, right? You're not the half sister. there's no maid or anything. But, so once, once I got suspended, Drew goes, okay, this could go on, you know, if this goes on longer than two weeks, you know, we were best friends and I'm out of here, you know, I'll stand by you. and it went on longer than two weeks and he claimed that if he left the show that they would take his house and I mean, you know, he basically, he went from being my best friend to making a business decision and so he stayed on Loveline and, and, you know, after that two weeks and he stayed on the show, we haven't talked since. We went from best friends, never talking. Wow. And now, and now, but when you listen to the show now, it's like I never existed and, and I did nothing to this guy. Nothing at all. Right. He doesn't even like to talk about it. He doesn't talk about you. No, exactly. He doesn't because now he's mad because I was in the tabloids. I'm going to, I'm going to go to Rouse real quick for that, okay? Now I'm in the, I went in the tabloids and talked about his coke use, which really, I thought it would help, you know, they could plug what I'm doing and it ended up it was just a story about Dr. Drew and he, Dr. Drew's drug shocker. That was in a, a magazine called Life and Style a year ago in January. But, and I, I've never gotten my career back and he, he's, he's gone on. Loveline's the reason he's gone on to great things. I, when I was doing Loveline before I got myself fired, I was on Good Day LA as a reporter. I did a, I remember that. a talk show with John, John Tesh and Lisa Givens and, you know, we, we had news crews in there. Loveline is the ticket. You've noticed every single host of Loveline gets other gigs, whether it was, you know, Corolla, Striker, you know, Corolla did his stuff. Striker was with Ellen. Now you have, you know, Psycho, you know, Stupid Mike or whatever his name is. He gets on Dancing with the Stars and then you had, Ricky Rackman. That's a score. Yeah, they all end up with other gigs. Yeah. And then Ricky Rackman took, did Ricky Rackman take your place after you left? Yeah, he was, well, yeah, it was initially Lewis who was my former intern. Lewis, it was music director of MTV and he didn't want to do it full time. Then Rackman took it and, and Drew, Drew, uh, sold me out, you know? I mean, he's, it's, it's awful. And, and to live with that, to, to have your career just taken away. I mean, it's not just your career, it's your dignity, it's your life. I mean, it's, it's, it's been hard, you know? I mean, it's, uh, and now it's coming back. Now I'm moving to New York. Um, right. That's right. So what do you got lined up in New York? Uh, we're going to start a syndicated talk show. I'm basically going to do a, and, and I just found out today we were supposed to do it in an afternoon drive, but my partner is the owner of two radio stations and he wants me to go on late at night. What do you guys think? I mean, would it be better to be on in the afternoons or could I still do it late at night? I just wouldn't do it between like 10 and 12 on Thursdays because we'll probably destroy you. Well, that, well, actually in the West Coast, it would be seven to 10 and the East Coast, 10 to one. Yeah. Then you're fine. Yeah. Then it should be fine. No, I wanted to do afternoon drive. But, uh, he's worried because this syndication company will only have me live between nine and midnight central time. They're out of the Midwest. So if you only can go on live, but they, they're, they're promising no stations either way. Guy, I'm telling you, I'm asking you to help me make my decision. That's great. I say do it. Do it. Yeah. Cause my, my partner's saying, Hey, if they're going to have you on then, cause they've got 487 affiliates and they think, you know, that there's less competition at night and I'd be picking up a lot of stations. So, and, and I thought of doing it out in New York just to get a fresh start, quite honestly. So it's been, it's been rough for you, uh, these last 15 years, man. Oh, dude, it absolutely has. Of course. I mean, now I sound good because I'm, you know, bikini beach. I just got to, you know, I, I mean, that seems to be going places and my radio career is coming back, but it's not easy to, you know, I don't have the same confidence that I did, you know, when you, when you've been beaten, when you've been beaten up. And since then, I've been fired from Kiss and Power and, um, how did, and did, what did you, how did you get fired from those things? They just wasn't working out? Um, well, I had a, I had a fabulous, uh, you know, um, I had a fabulous, uh, firing from 98.7 when it was Star. I decided, I had one shift and I decided, oh, I did a Sunday night. I go, I'm a full-time jock. I'm not just a weekend jock. And so I, I called it the Sunday night spectacular. I was on one air shift. I said, uh, that was, this is the best one. I said, we're going to do something spectacular every Sunday night. This Sunday night, you can ask for whatever you want on the air and get it. I want somebody to give me a free car to give away. Within half an hour, somebody called up with a Lamborghini kit. Oh, that's worth $70,000. Said, I'll give it away. And then I get on the air. How should we give it away? And, and some girl calls in. Why don't you give it away to whoever can destroy something in the most grandiose, most fashion? And I go, that's a great idea. And, and, and she starts out by breaking a glass in, in her, her sink. And you heard it break. Anyway, that it escalated from there and went out of control. Of course, it, the next person took a baseball bat to their home entertainment system. And after that, this is what got me fired after one air shift. Some girl calls in and she goes, I've got a 98 Monte Carlo, uh, or an 89 Monte Carlo. I'll sledgehammer the motor of my car and, and, uh, you know, you know, in order to win this. So she sledgehammers her car. Here's what got me fired. Then a guy, he has a 98 Nissan ZX. I think when I did this show in like early 2000s and, and she, he goes, I will drag race my, my 98, my ZX. I, I will drag race with a racing helmet into a concrete pillar. I told you this, Nick. So the guy who's on the cell phone, he's, he's in his car and he, he really does it. He goes 40 miles an hour into a concrete pillar. Oh my God. Completely totals his car and you can hear the cell phone banging around the inside of the car. And the reason this is true, he sent me a picture afterwards. But anyway, the guy who was giving away the Lamborghini kit was in, got, came to the studio. He decided to give, give the, the, the, the car to the girl who sledgehammered her car because she was, she was, yes. And the reason he decided that was because she only had one car so she didn't have any other way to get around where this guy had another vehicle. This guy was so pissed off that he didn't win that he called up the owner of Clear Channel that Kiss FM was on. They have a thousand stations around the country and he threatened to sue them. He was so furious. Yep. And this is with my one airship. So he called the mazes, you know, Lowry maze or, you know, and that was the owner at the time said, you know, I don't know I drag race my car into a pillar and total it and I didn't win a car. First of all, I'd never, I'd never cleared the car giveaway with a station in the first place, you know. And so then, then the owner of the station was being threatened with a huge lawsuit. They, they ended up having to, I guess, give him 15 grand or some, some amount of money and I was fired. You know. That's not fair, dude. I feel like your name just itself like lends to like, like dude, you were trying to do a deal with a guy named the poor man. Like what do you, like how are you going to try to sue this guy? This is ridiculous. Yeah, but you know, if you, if you mention my name to people, I'm sure, you know, I'm not, I'm, I'm just a regular kind of friendly guy but I just do naturally controversial things. I don't try to. Right. You know, it's just, you're just having fun. Having fun or even when I'm not having fun, I'll say, I'll put my foot in my mouth. I mean, Nick is, Nick is, you know, Nick is different. He's, he's naturally politicalized politically correct. Honestly, I, and what's so funny, I have, did I ever, I don't think I ever spanked you growing up, did I? Not even once, right? I had no rules for Nick. I guess his mom, your mom had rules, right? But he grew up and he's, he's politically correct. I mean, he knows what to say or not to say but he's, at the same time, he's cool and he, he knows music and I mean, you know, he's, he's very into the whole pop culture thing but I, but I, he's completely, but he knows what's right to say so he has a dad who's always did the wrong thing, you know, and it's just, you know, I mean, if you bring up my name, you guys probably know, you get all kinds of reactions to me. Yeah, yeah. Some good, some bad, you know. Was your lawsuit with K-Rock ever settled? What'd you say? Some good, what, I'm sorry, what'd you say? Some good, some bad said about poor man. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Was, yeah, with the lawsuit, what was that? Was your lawsuit with K-Rock, was that ever settled or is that something? I lost. You can't talk about it. Yeah, I lost. Wow. Yeah, they did a summary judgment so I didn't get a cent for Loveline even though I did it for 10 years and I created it and the previous owner of K-Rock was a single owner and he said it was always my show but then Infinity bought it and actually, the guy who ran Infinity is now the owner of Sirius Radio. His name is Mel Carmazon. Oh, yeah. And his boy was always Howard Stern. Right. I was his west coast darling until, you know, I did the morning show by myself, didn't make it work at one time and then, you know, all of a sudden I was persona non grata. What do you think about Howard Stern, by the way? I think he went for the money. I think he never should have left regular radio. I think now he's a box salesman. I mean, Sirius Radio, the only place they have them now is in cars and, you know, they also have HD radio now and there's the internet radio like what you guys are doing so Sirius, I think, is in serious trouble. No pun intended. Right. But, I mean, what I like about Howard on Sirius is that he can say pretty much anything that he wants to say. Like, I really like just the freedom of being able to just talk like an adult, you know? Yeah, see, I don't have Sirius so I haven't heard him on there. Oh man, you gotta catch it, man. You gotta catch it. I mean, I love Howard Stern, man. I listen to that shit every day. There's no more music radio pod but it's cool. What do you think Howard Stern? Do you like it? Yeah. You know, it's funny some people love him. I think he's lost a lot of popularity. He's lost a lot of popularity being on Sirius, though. It's not like when he was on regular radio. Don't you guys agree? You know, I disagree because I kind of do, actually. You agree, Dan? Yeah. Well, we're gonna fight after this show, then. We'll have a fist fight. Well, hey, Parman, we gotta run, man. We gotta play some songs here but, you know, we're just having a lot of fun talking to you and Yeah, likewise. I mean, I really appreciate you guys having me on. I would have really loved to have you come in and I know you're leaving at the end of the month, right? Yeah, I'm leaving on the 29th provided I don't blow this opportunity. I'm tempted to get pissed off for not for my partner wanting, my partner owns two radio stations for wanting me to switch from four to seven to ten to one but what do you think? Should I go along with it or should I take a stand? What I think is you should just come and do a show over here at skidroad.la, man. I think that'd be fucking awesome. I would love to. Do I get paid? I get probably paid by my name, the poor man, right? Right, right. We'll pay you in tecates. That's how we get paid. Right, listen, just you guys keep doing what you're doing because you know what? If you have a passion for radio, you just don't know where the breaks come from. Like I'm going national and I was doing, you know, I was in a small AM station in the Inland Empire and now I'm doing a syndicated national show. Who would have figured? So if you like radio, I would just say do what you're doing and who knows where it could lead you to. You might end up with a pretty big gig someday. Yeah, man, you know, we're just having fun. The same thing with our band. We play in a band called The Mormons and, you know, we're not making any money off of it and I think it's like you're going to be disappointed if you're expecting to become rich and famous out of either being in the music industry or like being an entertainer because it's just like a sea of people competing, you know, and I think we're really lucky just to be able just to have fun. It's almost better that we don't get paid, you know? I mean, that would be nice if there's any sponsors listening. It wouldn't be bad to be paid and famous. Are you guys Mormons? No, that's just the name of our band. We dress up like Mormons. Gosh, no. Mormons, oh my God. You know, can you guys get me some music because I'm going to play music on my talk show in between segments. Yeah, for sure. I'd love to play your music. Oh, yeah, for sure, man. And I'll have you be a guest on my, on my syndicated show. I don't know how many markets we'll be in, but you guys should come on my show, too. Yeah, cool. Yeah, we'd love that, man. That'd be cool. Yeah, dude. You guys are good. You guys are good. You're real casual, easy to talk to. I like your style. I think you should keep with it and, you know, with your music, who knows? You know, people get breaks out of, you know, all over the place, so you just don't know. Hey, before we let you go, can you do us a favor and give us an ID? Just say, this is Poor Man and you're listening to the More Music Radio Pod. Okay, sure. Go for it. All right. This is the Poor Man and you are listening to the number one radio pod on the planet Earth. It's the More Music Radio Pod. I love it very much. They have me on the show and they talk to me for probably two hours and I probably incriminated myself a million times, but I think these guys are the best. This is the Poor Man. How much you guys pay me? We're going to send you an 18-pack of Tecate soon, man. And if Tecate's listening, if Tecate's listening, we need that sponsorship, man. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Did I say it the right way? The More Music? Yeah, you said it perfect, man. Like the pro you are, okay. Well, hey, thanks, Poor Man. I really appreciate it, man. It's been a blast talking to you and I wish you luck on your move to New York and hopefully we'll talk to you again. And, I mean, before you take off to New York, if you have a free Thursday and you want to come to downtown in the next couple of weeks, by all means, man, you know, just show up. Thanks, thanks. And you know what? If you guys want to, go ahead and post this interview on my Facebook page and I'll make sure people will have it to listen to. Yeah, we'll do, man. Yeah, for sure. Awesome, dude. Thanks, Poor Man. We really appreciate it, man. And our thanks to Nick also, man. Oh, yeah, they say thanks, Nick. What are your first names? I didn't even ask you. Oh, my name's Vince. I'm Dan. I'm Jimmy. I'm Jamie Z. Jeremy. All right. Yeah. Cool, man. Thanks, Poor Man. It's been really cool, man. I know there's a lot of stuff to talk about and if you don't make it down here in the next couple of weeks, maybe we can talk to you via satellite or something. I don't know. Skype. Via technology. Or if we're on at the same time, maybe we do a simulcast. Yeah, that'd be fucking rad, dude. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it for sure. Awesome. Yeah, we'll do, man. Okay. All right then, Poor Man. I'll be in downtown LA. I'll be in downtown LA. I'll be in downtown Manhattan. Cool, man. Cool, dude. Well, hey, Poor Man. I'll be talking to you, man. Thanks again, dude, for talking to us on the More Music Radio Pod. Poor Man. Take it easy, man. Thanks, man. Okay. See you guys. Bye. Later on, Poor Man. And that was Poor Man and we'll be right back on the More Music Radio Pod. CBS 2's Serene Branson is live at the Staples Center with highlights and backstage coverage we're seeing for the very first time. Serene. Well, a very, very heavy heavy virtation tonight. We had a very deris... derison... but let's go ahead and tear his... tear his... let's put him in the bed and have the pet. The More Music Radio Pod. Hot kid will come in the... in the... in the... in the... in the... in the... in the... in the... in the... in the... in the... in the... in the... Listen to the dirties that fall upon your casket Listen to the flowers that fall upon your grave side Lay in my casket Stare at the wood Just me and Raymond Six feet deep Try to scream We try to shout Ain't nobody gonna listen Nobody what? Lay in my casket Stare at that wood My three-piece suit My shiny shoes My carnation In my chest Six feet deep Lay in my casket Stare at the wood Nobody listens You never know if they would You know that they wouldn't Nobody listens Lay in my casket Stare at the wood I'm laying in my car I see a big fake dick Lay in my casket Just me and Raymond Six feet deep Just me and Raymond Lay in my casket Six feet deep Six feet deep Six feet deep The sonic bass Six feet deep My switched-eye-off I can see my face in my shoes What the hell! What the hell! I try to warn the young dogs Don't ever listen Don't ever listen You thought that they would Just me and Raymond Laying our casket Staring at the wood Sticking deep I can hear your mother cry Listen to the flowers drop Above my casket All I care about is a friend of mine Staring at the figures on your screen You're no longer a human being Let me tell you how to act I look at you and you're in a fucking trap Fuck around, you're detained Your mind is covered, there's no fear, no hate All I care about is a friend of mine Staring at the flowers drop Staring at the figures on your screen You're no longer a human being Let me tell you how to act I look at you and you're in a fucking trap Fuck around, you're detained Your mind is covered in so much hate Before your mind is dumb All this is just a bunch of junk And think they hate your mom and dad You do not get better yet I can't find a good way to talk Your sound can't talk, just a bunch of fuck There's a figure on your screen You're a no-no, you're a no-man's-bane What is happening is a whole other thing Now find a man, find your David Scree What is happening is a whole other thing The part of my birthday is dirty What is happening is a whole other thing The part of my birthday is gray I don't fucking feel the whole sound I just wanna laugh Let us into the garage Call in, bitch 1-800-893-9562 Ichi hapyaku yakuza kugoroni Man, I think I got a banana in my tailpipe Welcome back to the More Music Radio Pod We have comedian Jamie Z Hello! What's going on? That's me Hey, we just talked to Poor Man and That was awesome That was cool, man It's really cool to hear people talking real shit, man And Dr. Drew loved cocaine I don't know, maybe he still does it I don't know Maybe we should have him on the More Music Radio Pod Takes one to know one I wanna mention, before we talk to Poor Man, we were playing some music We played The Bar Feeders with Chainsaw We played Stab City with Vomitorium Just now, you heard The Dyslexics with TV Boy And before that, you heard our friends Carnage Asada with Raymond's Casket Carnage Asada, I like that name Yeah, man, they're fucking bad, dude You should check them out I think they'll be playing some shows soon I think the guitar player broke his hand Or the drummer broke his hand Somebody broke a hand And they'll be back soon But yeah, man, we have a comedian in studio So we're gonna get a little taste of Jamie Z's set, man Are you ready to do that? I was born ready Alright, go for it, Jeremy And naked You playing the thing? Oh, yes We had it all set up, so okay, let's It's what it sounds like in my shows, silence It's the More Music Radio Pod It's for me, thank you, thank you On skidroad.la And we have comedian Jamie Z He's gonna do some stuff for us tonight Far too kind, far too kind We're gonna do some cocaine with Dr. Drew Right now we have comedian Jamie Z, alright It's for me, you guys are far too kind That's far too kind, thank you So I'm Jamie Z and I'm an addict But it looks at me, I know you're probably thinking What? How did this clean cut individual get addicted to drugs? I was just as surprised But no, I've been sober You don't need to do the timing, it's okay It's okay I'm just only giving a little hint I have a show coming up and you can catch some of these jokes I don't wanna blow them all So basically I've done a shitload of drugs And when it came down to it, one wasn't enough I actually saw certain drugs as remedies for other drugs Cocaine, for example By itself, it does nothing but give you paranoia And a bloody nose, and it makes you feel really sober There's no point, who the fuck wants that? But if you mix it with alcohol, yes Now that's what I'm talking about You're wasted at a party and you're the designated driver Fuck And your friends need a ride home Dude, Jamie, how the fuck are we getting home, man? You're sitting there like, fuck man Hold on, hold on I believe I'm the guy that's driving the car tonight Because cocaine makes you feel sober I don't know I'm just gonna give you guys some advice Some relationship advice that I've learned I've gotten into a lot of fights Probably because I'm also a sex addict I stay in some pretty fucked up relationships Now when you fight with a lady, as a guy It's a normal reaction to say, bitch It's also a bad choice Even if you add your acting like a in front of it Saying like, she's not a bitch She's just acting like a bitch Like, no, she's just acting like a bitch Like, no, she's just acting like a bitch Like, no, she's just acting like a bitch Like, no, she's just acting like a bitch Like, no, you're still gonna get castrated But I have learned If you put sexy in front of it You can get away with it They can piss you off and be like, you sexy bitch All they're gonna hear is sexy So take that as a word of advice, guys Don't use sexy cunt Cunt has way too much snap Not gonna work But sexy bitch definitely can get away with that there And so one last thing I'm gonna say So one last thing is If you're gonna be shopping A shopping addict Don't shop on Craigslist Everything is always too good to be true Last week, actually, I was trying to get a TV And I called this number I'm like, yeah, I'm calling about the TV And this voice is Yeah, honey, how can I help you? I'm like, I'm calling about the TV I saw on Craigslist Yeah, baby, I'm your transvestite How can I help you? Not a good fucking shopping site, man Not a good place to get a TV So that's my act Or parts of my act I have about eight to thirty minutes Depending on what venue I'm playing But I do have a couple shows September 2nd I'll be at the Whoa, thanks Boom We're having a little fun with this If only my audience was that great in off time They catch my jokes when they go home They're like, haha Now I get it Boom So August 25th Or, yeah, August That's what the month we're in, right? Yeah Cool, fool I'm not that wasted August 25th I'll be at the Yoohoo Room at Flappers in Burbank And September 2nd The Comedy Store Main Room And Vargas Mason will be performing that day as well With me Awesome, man Alright, comedian Jamie Z, man That was cool, dude Thanks, Jamie Yeah, alright Yeah, what about the applause one? Louder, louder There we go They love me Peace They love me Oh, God I've got my sides Move That's why I do this The attention What the hell Ooh, yeah, man. Got any dead baby jokes or anything? How many dead babies does it take to wallpaper a house? How many? Three, if you slice them thinly. Oh, shit, man. Cool, dude. Well, hey, man, let's catch up. Let's play a couple more songs, and we'll be back on the More Music Radio pod, man. That was cool, dude. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Hi, this is Jim Schweder. You are listening to the More Music Radio program on skinbrown.la. We'll be right back. Even if it doesn't feel right So just get back inside The best of society We're going around We're running into walls We live in a society It's got to fight or fall We try to watch out But I see a conflict We're not just cattle And it's getting hit We're born in this world We work like a slave I'm just a good bitch And now we've got it made What is the point? What do we do with the answer? And we got to make it We've got our purpose in life Even if it doesn't feel right So just get back inside The best of society We're going around We're running into walls We're running into walls We're running into walls We're running into walls We're running into walls We're running into walls We're running into walls We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. relationship as a, as a standup comic? I mean, it sounds like it might be a little rough. Well, yeah, you can get in. Well, I mean, before this relationship that I've had, uh, in past relationships, just in general, being like a, not a comedian necessarily, but a person who jokes all the time and looks at life as it is a joke. Uh, it's really hard. You piss people off all the time. I think I'm being hilarious or I'm not being serious enough to them and I'm hurting feelings or you, you can never be serious is the biggest. You can never be serious. Why can't I have a serious conversation with you? I'll give, I'll give a serious answer. I'm just trying to have fun. After I've lightened up the shit situation, how are you going to pay the $5,000? Well, you know, I'm going to hook myself, probably sell crack cocaine. I don't know. I'll figure it out, but yeah, let's light it up because I realize I don't know how I'm going to pay the fucking $5,000. What's the $5,000 for? I'm just using that as an example. That's pulled out of my ass right there. That is, what do they say in documentaries and stuff or TV shows? And no portrayal is real in that one. No reality. Uh-uh. That was all fictitious. All increments of money were changed to, to. Names and personalities have been changed. And wait, what? To harm the innocent and rape the guilty. And trim the hedges. I also heard that you're writing for some sitcoms. Is there something? What's going on with that? Yeah, I write a bunch of stuff. Me and one of my buddies are trying to write a sitcom pilot right now, actually. And I won't get into too much detail, but. Because somebody will steal it. Yes, someone will steal it. But it's a good pilot idea, I feel. So if there's anyone listening that wants to discuss TV show pilots, it's a great idea, I feel. If you don't, you can tell me, but hear me out at least. I've always wanted to do a TV show with the Mormons. You know how? Like the monkeys, they all lived in the same place. Hey, hey, we're the monkeys. There hasn't been like a show since the monkeys where it just revolved around like a band and stuff. And if you tell me your pilot idea, I'll tell you my pilot idea. All right. Well, mine is about a 1990s rock band living in a garage called California Dreams. I don't know where to go without. Are there cool dudes with attitudes? Kind of groovy. Kind of groovy. Played back tunes. Well, our pilot episode, we wanted to do a sitcom that we do ourselves. So it probably won't be too pro or anything. But our first pilot episode is going to be where, you know how in sitcoms where you find, they'll be walking around and they find a suitcase of money and they figure out what to do with it? Well, one of us will be out working or something and we'll find a kilo of cocaine. And keep it? And yeah. Oh, cocaine. Oh, we don't do that. What are we going to do with this? But meanwhile, as the days progress, like the kilo shrinks and we all become more and more coked out. And we all deny ever touching it. But meanwhile, our noses are red and our eyes are wide open and we're fighting and stuff like that. And we can like end the season, I'm thinking. I already have a last episode idea with someone's nose bleeding and almost having a panic attack. And then they fall down. And then they fall down pasty white like they're dying and their heart's going to explode. And then the credits end to like continue next season. Maybe he lives. Maybe he doesn't. In the second season, they find a mysterious O.D. Why is this happening to him? He's so sick. He's jittery. The second season, you find a different box of drugs. Yeah. Sold. Cool, man. So when is this pilot going to see the light of day, man? Well, we're still writing it. We have a couple more things that we got. We got to add to it. And then we got a revision that we got to do once it's completed. So probably not for a little while. But when you do hear about one, you heard it now and you'll watch it. I won't tell you what it is, though, because I can't. Who are you working with? Matt Altomare. Matt Altomare. Yes. Awesome. I'm a big fan. He's a good guy. He's a really good guy. He's just a good writing partner. And we are writing this awesome, hopeful show. And I think it's going to be a great idea. He's got a couple of connections that he's spit it to and they like the concept. So we'll see. Have you gone on the road yet? I've done a show down in San Diego. That was about it. You got any plans to get out there? Yeah, I want to. If agents are booking, I am definitely open and willing. I'll drive or fly anywhere. So you're looking for an agent right now? Well, just like comedy agents. If comedy agents are booking their clubs, I'll do it. I kind of just doing it myself. Mm-hmm. I'll do it. I'll take the time. Right. Build a fan base. Right. You're paying your dues right now, right? I mean, I pretty much am okay with being a poor ass broke comic. If I get rich, what the hell is going to be? There's nothing really awesome about that. That means my life is kind of okay and it's not funny anymore. That's why comics usually get rich, get famous and die. So I was living vicariously through my poor friend the other day. Tell all my friends stories. And then they'll resent me and I'll lose all my friends and I'll do even more coke and then I'll die. I mean, anyways, whatever the case is, just please help me die. Let me get famous so I can die already. You could open up for Mitch Hedberg and Greg Geraldo in heaven. Yeah. I will. I'll totally do it. Just get me paid. Let me get rich and famous. And then I promise you I will die. I'll be out of your hair forever. Opening for the big warrant show in the sky. So if you really hate me, I know I have enemies. Get me paid so I can die already. And you know, the secret is, is everybody goes to heaven, even murderers. All you got to do is just ask God for forgiveness. Well, there's a priest that came out recently that said hell is just a figment of the church's imagination. They made it up to install fear into people, which if that is the case, doesn't that mean heaven's pretty fake too? Just saying. But yeah, a priest actually, you can YouTube it. I saw it recently on YouTube. A priest comes out. He's got the little collar. So I believe he's a priest. Yeah. And he says that hell was just made up to scare people. He didn't say anything about the poo-poo, did he? No, he didn't say anything about the poo-poo. Because we follow that guy. There's this one African pastor and stuff. We played some stuff from that a couple of weeks ago. And he was talking about eating the, he goes, oh, look at the people and they're eating the poo-poo. Eating the poo-poo. Jesus. Yeah. Pull that up, Jeremy, if you can, man. It's African. African pastor, eat the poo-poo and you'll find it, man, on YouTube. I love YouTube, man. It's my favorite. It's fucking so awesome, man. You can find anything on there. I have a YouTube channel. Jamie Z Comedy at YouTube or follow my Twitter, Jamie Z123 or my Facebook, Jamie Z. That's a lot of Jamie Z's there. Yeah, man. How many J's and Z's is that? I'm the original Jay-Z. That's all I know. Sean Carter stole my name. Oh, my God. Dr. Martin Semper. I'm here in the capacity. I'm the chairman of the National Task Force Against Homosexuality in Uganda. Put it up a little bit. We are making legislation to make sure that sodomy and homosexuality never sees the light of legality in this land of the Pearl of Africa. I've taken time to do a little research to know what homosexuals do in the privacy of their bedroom. One of the things they do is called anal leaking, where a man's anus is leaked. This guy does not like homosexuals. Like this. No, he doesn't. By the other person. Like ice cream. And then what happens, even poo-poo comes out. The other one poo-poos out, huh? And then they eat the poo-poo. Eat the poo-poo. They eat the poo. The other one they do is they have a sex practice called fisting, where they insert their hand into the other man's hand. And it goes into the anus all the way. And it is so painful. They have to take drugs. But they enjoy it. Now, if we have any children, please step out. This is a parental guidance moment. That child can be moved out. That child can be moved out now. This is what they do. Number one, you can see a man here having sucked the other person's rectum. Amen! And the other person is poo-pooing. And this one is eating the poo-poo all over the place. Tell me, when you have a law against homosexuality, do you say, except eating poo-poo? I mean, look at this guy sincerely. Bishop. Oh, come on. Hajat. We do not want this sickness. This is sick. And it's therefore deviant. We do not want it. Come on. Come on. They start off by touching each other's genitals and smelling each other. And smelling each other. Then this one smears the poo-poo all over the other person's face. Oh, wow. This guy is spectacular. He puts the hand deeper. As Africans, we want to ask Barack Obama to explain to us, is this what he wants to bring to Africa as a human right to eat the poo-poo of our children? Yeah, eat the poo-poo. Cool, man. That guy is twisted. Yeah, they fucking did that. He obviously saw the wrong homosexual video. He went for the fucking hardcore shit right off the bat. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Fisting. Apparently he doesn't know about Cleveland steamers with women or a donkey punch or the superman or spider-man or a hot carl or a hot carl is when you have a chick just take a shit on your chest. That's boom. No cellophane. No, just like in red on your chest. What is it called when you have cellophane like above your eyes and you want to watch them take a shit, but you don't want the shit on your face? I don't know. What is that called? Is it the glass coffee table? Saran crap? I don't know. I'm still trying to figure it out. It happened to me last night, so I don't know. Saran crap. Saran crap. Boink. Oh, shit. Hey, well, let's play another couple songs, man, and we'll be back on the More Music Radio Pod. Yeah. Eat the poo-poo. Kim Kazuyo-domo. You are listening to the More Music Radio Pod. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Life's a process, I can't take it This is my brother's family Thank you for being here for me This is too long for me Today I'm out, we've lost a lot of way Hello there, Ryan switched sides guitar solo I would say that those copies I read between the posts Think that I'll be different Keeps away the thought Who can look at it like that? 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We'll be right back. We're in centerfold. Call in to the More Music Radio pod. 1-800-893-9562. Call in. Yeah, welcome back to the More Music Radio pod. That was a fun show, man. That was really cool, man. I had a really good time. Thank you for having me. Thanks, dude. I'm glad that you could be here. Yeah. I am glad. I am glad I am still here and alive. We got to talk to Nick Trenton. That was pretty cool. Do you know who that is? Nick Trenton. That's the poor man's son. That's poor son. That's poor son. Yeah, man. Poor son. He's a, what is he? He's a biochemical engineer. He's going to be a biochemist. That's what he's studying. All right. Real smarty pants. He's going to make crystal meth one day. So, yeah, man. So, Jamie, tell us where you're going to be at and where people can get a hold of you and stuff. Okay. So. So, I will be at the Comedy Store, September 2nd. I will be at Flappers in Burbank, August 25th in the Yoohoo Room. You can find me on YouTube, Jamie Z Comedy. On Twitter, Jamie Z123 with the at sign in front of it. And Facebook, Jamie Z. That's J-A-M-I-E-Z-E-E. That's me. Awesome. I'm sick of my name. I'm sick of my name now. Jamie Z. I like it, man. It sounds cool. Yes, I know. I just said it a lot. I'm not used to saying my name a lot. Are you going to forget us when you become popular and famous and stuff, man? Are you going to come back to the music radio? I'm going to forget you in two seconds. No. I will remember you guys. I will. Just keep in touch on the Facebook. I'll always respond. Cool, dude. All right, man. All right, man. So, Dan is going to read off what's going on in L.A. this week. Thank you. Thank you. Well, before we move on to the weekend, tonight, it's Joe Dana's birthday. That's Pussy Cow. Oh, yeah. Hey, happy birthday, Joe Dana. That's Joe Dana from Pussy Cow. Happy birthday, Pussy Cow, man. Pussy Cow, Pussy Cow, Pussy Cow. Yeah. Also, my other girlfriend, Kate Burlick, it's her birthday tonight, too. Happy birthday, Kate, your other girlfriend. Yeah, yeah. And anyway, but it's coming up on Friday, so if you got nothing to do, want to go do something, you're over in Old Town, Pasadena. Check out the Sundowners. They'll be over there. And apparently, I share a birthday with Charles Bukowski, which is on the 13th. And if you'd like to celebrate his birthday, that'll be over at 131 East 5th Street in downtown L.A. here. Radical. And get drunk. Hey, is that your birthday, too, Jeremy? Yep, that's my birthday. Hey, look at that. Awesome. Hey, look at that. Trifecta. Trifecta. Technically, Bukowski's birthday was on the 9th, but yeah. Hey. Go to King Eddie's. I'm just reading stuff over here. That's what they'll do. Anyway, but on Sunday, you can go to church, because come on, you know, the Jesus. Praise the Lord. No, anyway, actually. Just in case that hell thing is true. Yeah, yeah. Actually, if you go to that same club Jamie Zee's going to be at, Judy Tenute is going to be there. Oh, yeah. On the 14th with her accordion, I bet. Oh, Judy. I like it when Howard Stern made her cry. That was cute. When Sam Kinison was on, and they were, like, making fun of her and stuff, and she started crying, and she walked out. That was funny. Oh, that's cool. Making girls cry is pretty cool. You mean man, you. But, yeah. I love a girl who plays accordion. They're hot. But, yeah, there's other stuff going on during the week. If you got nothing to do on Tuesday, go see Bigo and Stab City. Stab City. Lot one. Yeah, man. And Stab City is actually having, like, a Sunset Junction kind of, like, anti-show or something called Sunset Schmunction. And I'm assuming it's happening at the same time Sunset Junction. When is Sunset Junction happening? It's in... Like the 27th? It's in August. At the end of the month. So, if you're a hipster, just ride your bike up and down Sunset for, like, three weeks, and I'm sure you'll find it. You'll run into her. Douchebag. And then on the 17th, Moses Campbell will be at the Echo. And then that'll bring you right back to Thursday, and you'll be right back here with us. Yeah. More Music Radio Pod every Thursday, man. Yeah. So, also, I want to tell you to check out the Mormons at facebook.com slash themormons. And you can follow the Mormons on Twitter, twitter.com slash themormons. And also, while you're Twittering, you can follow themormons. More Music Radio Pod, twitter.com slash mormusicradio. M-O-R-M-U-S-I-C-R-A-D-I-O-P-O-D at Twitter. And also, you can email the More Music Radio Pod, moremusicmormusicradiopod at gmail.com. And, I don't know, just send us a line, man. Shoot us a line and tell us hello. And we are going to be having some games coming up. I've been thinking of maybe doing some games on the air. And, yeah, man. Jenga! On the radio. Scattergories. So, cool, man. I want to thank our guest, Jamie Zee, for coming in. Thank you, guys. Thank you very much. I also want to thank Poor Man for calling up. Yes, thank you, Poor Man. And talking to us. That was lots of fun, man. I love to hear all that stuff. And, hopefully, we will get to do a simulcast or something with his new show when he's in New York. We'll follow him. We'll see what's going on. I'm sure he'll either call. Or maybe he'll pay us a visit or something. We'll see. But, again, thanks, Poor Man. We really appreciate you being on the More Music Radio Pod. Oh, you know what? I almost missed something. I'm sorry. Before we leave. On the 13th, that's also Majorelle's record release party. Oh, yeah. At the Old Town Pub. Oh, shit. Did you know that, Jimmy? I didn't know it was a record release. Jimmy plays bass in Majorelle. Hey, man, I just read stuff. If that guy's lying, then you need to put out a record, like, quick. I guess technically. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. I also want to thank Jeremy. I want to thank Dan. I want to thank Jimmy for coming in. What do you think, Jimmy? This is your first night here at Skid Row Studios, man. It was fun. I had a good time. Awesome, man. You going to come back? Yeah. All right. Cool, man. Take some sound effects and stuff, man. We'll do lines of cocaine with Dr. Drew. We'll see if we can get Dr. Drew in here and get him all fucked up on all kinds of drugs and stuff. Cocaine. Dr. Roxo. But, anyway, man. That was the More Music Radio Pod. Listen to us next week. And we're here every Thursday night, 10 p.m. Pacific time at www.skidrow.la. And if nobody else has anything to say, then I will sign off. You guys got anything to say? Use condoms. Don't get babies and AIDS. Right. Don't get either of those things. Babies. Too many of them. It's like the same thing. You know? It's like an instant death. Pretty much. Your life dies. Bye-bye. Well, anyway, that was the More Music Radio Pod. Thank you very much. And we'll catch you next week. It's a home run. Bye-bye. It's out of here. Later, everybody. 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