Man lives in the solid world of what he believes to be reality. But there is unseen by most an underworld. A place that is just as real but not as brightly lit. A dark side. The following content is a work of fiction. It contains images of graphic violence. Viewer discretion is advised. Escalating confrontation between Russia and the U.S. and Europe over Ukraine. Russian President Vladimir Putin is defying international criticism and declaring that Russia will take over Crimea, which is Ukrainian territory. You see a tense standoff has been ongoing at a Ukrainian military base in Crimea. You see there the first pictures we have received. An armored personnel carrier, you see it there, smashing through the air. The gates breaking into this Ukrainian facility. As you can see. And you see Ukrainian soldiers, troops running around there. A very tense situation. Okay, turn around. Face your head over here. And slowly, in front of him, stick your ass out. And slowly, take off your panties. Head, head down, ass up. And then, the! And then, the! Now when I walk around here... Now when I walk around here... Now when I walk around here... Mary, Jess and Adrian Love and happiness are all I know Innocence and love are small I know I need to lose them So the days kept passing in tears Happiness just came from so easily Innocence was all I knew Just another one What an illusion Doesn't even matter Doesn't even matter Doesn't even matter Doesn't even matter Doesn't even matter Doesn't even matter Doesn't even matter Doesn't even matter Doesn't even matter Doesn't even matter Doesn't even matter I'm on that illusion I need an everyday beer I'm on that illusion I'm on that illusion I'm on that illusion I'm on that illusion I'm on that illusion I'm on that illusion I'm on that illusion I'm on that illusion I don't know if there'll ever be daylight again. Only God knows. I'm sure only God knows. And still the phenomenon remains unexplained, except for the reports that now come in of similar occurrences here in the United States and elsewhere. At 2 o'clock this afternoon, a dark cloud suddenly appeared over a street in Dallas, Texas. The mayor of West Berlin verified the fact that a rectangular area over the Berlin Wall has suddenly gone dark. In Budapest, European newspaper men passed over censorship an article about several square blocks, including a political prison, which was suddenly thrown into darkness early this morning. In Birmingham, Alabama, an area in Shanghai, the entire northern section of Vietnam, a section of Chicago, Illinois. The darkness continues to make itself known. A sickness known as hate. Not a virus, not a micro, not a germ. But a sickness nonetheless. Highly contagious. Deadly in its effects. Doesn't even send a sender of a suspicious sender of a suspicious sender. guitar solo Well I don't want no Jesus priest To tell me what it's all about No black magician telling me To cast my soul out Don't believe in fire And I don't even believe in fear I've opened the door Now my mind's been released guitar solo Well I don't want no priest To tell me about the God in the sky No I don't want no one To tell me where I'm gonna go When I die I wanna live my life I don't want people telling me What to do I just believe In myself Cause no one else Is true guitar solo Every day it comes and goes Life is what I'm going through People try to ruin it And I can't seem to get What they do guitar solo guitar solo People hiding their real faces People running their eyes Racist behind me Now they throw the wheel Their world of making guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo electric guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo warning the songs you are about to hear are intended for mature listening audiences only if you have a weak mind or heart and don't like words like shit fuck or cunt then please refrain from listening any further it's time for some real music it's show time it's show time yeah we have seen imitators we've also seen duplicators but now it's time for the originators Los Angeles and the rest of the world you're listening to the very manic Jimmy Capshaw I am your host Jimmy Caps I must say that first of all have you noticed how my demeanor is today well one you're not wearing skinny jeans so I notice that it's changed dramatically do you notice that our sub-door mic and my software are somewhat kind of like bummed out today yeah I've noticed that it's because we're not a little grim we're not drinking we are not drinking today is there is there something is there something that I missed yeah last week after the show we went on this fucking we went on this I really don't even want to go too much into it but let's just say that you continued on what you were going with last week yeah and it became apparent that obviously when I start seeing red flags in my drinking habits because as you know as I shared with my audience before I tend to be an extreme person on all avenues and what happened last week was just fucking frightening let's just put it this way I had a 76 year old gay man fucking proposition me for sex you know again I follow you as many others do that's fucking frightening I know I follow you and many others do on the Facebook and again you pull no punches no holds barred it is all real you want to come up to my apartment and suck your cock look I have no teeth and I'm sitting there all wasted going I wonder how that would feel like whoa I'm fucking wasted wasted yeah see that's when I go home no and we see what's going on with what you're doing and yeah counselor that's yeah we decided to go sober we decided to kind of like mellow out and go sober a little bit but I don't know about you we're not happy about it right is this a downshift Sunday instead of free shit Sunday it's a downshift Sunday well the only good thing about it is that I won't be slurred or fucking up well I think I will be fucking up there when I send that send send send send send send send send send send send send send send send send send send Blackberry Alright, let me introduce you formally I am Jimmy Cabs along with my co-host Lost Johnny How you doing there? Boom Doing pretty good man, I had a burrito And I'm feeling dandy as candy I gotta tell you, lots to talk about It's always a disturbing week But this week was really disturbing As you know, I'm not a big fan of law enforcement Here in Los Angeles You're not alone And I was surprised that I was moved by this story Did you hear about this story? About the Anaheim police canine Dog named Bruno? Yes I did Seven year old German Shepherd To make a long story short Because I really don't want to read all this thing But apparently there was a situation where Police officers Actually it started off with probation officers In Orange County, they were going after this one guy And it turned out it turned into a shooting spree And they brought in the SWAT team They brought in the canines The canines were out You know, doing what they do As you know, I'm a big advocate about Animal rights and stuff like that Maybe you don't know, but yeah, I am I'm surprised You've always been an animal lover I have been an animal lover Except for my two German Shepherds They're fucking dicks, I wish they would have got shot But anyways, it turns out that There were shots fired and this seven year old Canine German Shepherd police dog Got hit, he got shot He got shot An inch away from his heart I think we have the images, do we have the images up there? And just those images alone are fucking devastating To see, especially since dogs Are very loyal, man They really, even my dickhead dogs But they're very loyal And especially when you train These type of dogs, man They really are Top notch professionals They'll literally, as in this case, take a bullet And it was just sad to see that This dog got blasted The good news is, is that they rushed him To, you know, the emergency hospital And gave him emergency surgery And he will survive I believe we have a sound bite, correct? Southern California, a heroic effort Overnight to save a police dog Bruno was shot and wounded In the line of duty yesterday After sniffing out a suspect Doctors worked on him all night long With the bullet just an inch from his heart The six year veteran of the Anaheim police force Though, is expected to recover Wow, so that's some good news But I was just touched To see those images I could tell, you look at your expression You're like, I don't give a fuck You know, dogs, human or otherwise You know, they are officers of the law And I'm gonna sound like an asshole My sympathy is very small You know, here's something That's part of the job This is something that I really want to clarify though Because a lot of people are not Especially criminals, they are unaware that Any form of physical threat Against a canine Is just like a police officer So they will blast you If you try to fuck up And in this case, I believe they They shot the assailant and killed him So, don't fuck around with that As you also know The news has been covered With the whole missing Malaysian flight We talked about that last week Personally, I really don't give a fuck Is Shark Week coming on again? You haven't eaten all day No, I really don't give a fuck about that I think it's actually I think it's actually You know what, it's to deter From what's going on In the Ukraine right now Now, Los Johnny That's a stretch, dude, but go ahead Well, no, let me explain something to you What's happening right now in the Ukraine Better yet, let's play the soundbite The White House is vowing There will be more sanctions against Russia More international isolation But the tough talk just isn't working This morning, Russian-backed security forces Stormed a Ukrainian naval base In Crimea As Russia is just tightening its grip On the region, making it clear They have no intention whatsoever Of fighting the Russians And they're not going to do anything Meanwhile, Vice President Biden Is in the region Reassuring Russia's nervous neighbors That the United States will protect them If Russia proceeds further Now, this is interesting right here And I believe a lot of people Really are not grasping the severity Of the situation over there Yeah, this is 2014 But we are literally digressing Back into that stalemate That we had in the 50s With the Cuban Missile Crisis Cold War all over again As a matter of fact Let me express this even more I think this is why As you said, I was full of shit The news has been saturated With this missing flight But if you were to really pay attention To what's going on In that region of the world It is frightening Because even though That right now With the economic sanctions That are going on With the Russians, right? And also with Europe coming on board You need to remember that Syria, Iran Have heavy involvement With the Russians That is very true And now they're going to be Like, fuck that Okay? Also, in Cuba This is interesting A lot of people still Are unaware of this And you won't see this In the modern day media There are naval fleets Russian naval fleets Stalking there Aside from spy ships But just recently The Cuban government Has said, hey, Guantanamo That is our land You have no legal right To be here They want to expel them You know that goes into play You know what's going to happen Because that's considered United States territory Yep So, well, okay Here's a backtrack A lot of people Failed to remember That Putin Is, one An old school Cold warrior Exactly And two He is gangster as fuck He makes Bush Look like a fucking pussy He actually backs up What he does And doesn't give two shits About it And on top of that He can physically Kick your ass Because he's a black belt Ensemble But that has nothing To do with that But the point is Putin is He's doubling down He is fucking Locking the shit down He really does not Give a fuck Because as far as He's concerned The West is bad Anything that encroaches On the Russian Anything that benefits Russia Bad And he's doing everything Now to fucking Clip all that shit You step up And try to protest You're done You try to fucking Hey man There's money involved And it's kind of Fucking everything up I don't give a shit Clamping that shit down Well, this is This is what's very Cold war warrior Doesn't give a shit Gangster as fuck This is what's very This is what's very Interesting here I was just having This conversation yesterday And again Eventually This will all trickle Back down to us It always does You know And one of the things That's frightening is Especially what's going Right now What's going on right now In Crimea Let's play that soundbite Please I'd like to bring in Ivan Watson Who's following All these developments From Kiev Ivan, what do you know About these pictures And what happened? It appears to have been A security camera That is locked And this live feed Just went down This does look like An armored personnel carrier Suggesting the Russian military Is directly involved With the forced takeover Attempted takeover Of this Ukrainian airbase We spoke just a few hours ago With the Ukrainian commander Of that base A man named Yuri Mamchur And he vowed to try To hold on to the base To use fire hoses To try to keep back What he described As pro-Russian militia As well as Cossacks Backed by Russian troops Who were surrounding his base And he told us Quote We're going to keep Our oath of service To Ukraine And to the Ukrainian people But this is just one Tense example Of a series Of Ukrainian military bases And installations That have been taken over One by one By the Russian military And allied Self-proclaimed Civil defense groups Including Ukraine's last And only submarine Which was handed over Sometime in the last 24 hours So this is what we're Going to talk about In the next episode Of the show On the Russian military And the Ukrainian military And the Ukrainian military Has been a move That's been taking place Across the Crimean peninsula The Ukrainian government Has authorized The Ukrainian military To use their weapons But we have not heard Of any cases Where the Ukrainian military Have actually fired On the advancing Russian troops And their Russian militia allies I'm telling you man This is the beginning right here And this will eventually Come back to us Because whether I like that I know What's up? I'm in the middle Of the show Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter Doesn't matter I think my paranoia is kicking in. I think I need some medication. You're sober, right? Yeah, I'm sober. See what happens when you're sober? So anyways, that's what's going on. Well, you know, it's like you said, it's 2014. It's a lot more complex now with the fact that, you know, everyone has their piece or has their hands in each other's pieces, meaning that Russia supplies many of the gas works to other European countries. So that's why the European Union is not so quick to, you know, get involved and do something about it because, you know, it gets cold in Europe. And if there's no heat, you are fucked. You are seriously fucked. You know what's funny, though, is like all the real conservative Christians that I know, the born-again ones, like they're all like rejoicing right now. It's the beginning of the end of times. Yeah, thanks. I'm like, great. Speaking of that, Fred Phelps died. Yeah. I know, man. This is even more funny. Did you hear the reaction when he announced his death? Fuck that puto. Yeah, he passed away. I wonder if, you know, all the gay and lesbian and transgendered groups are going to picket his funeral because I read this article where his thing did more to help gay rights and gay rights awareness than anything he could have picketed with those God hate fag signs. And I was a little pissed that he did that at the Dio funeral. That was stupid. Well, what's disturbing is that in Michigan, this all actually ties in. Again, let me just say this. The fact that we're living in a modern age and all this homophobia, especially when it comes to denying civil unions to gays, okay, it borders. It's a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a reinstated the Michigan Constitution. No, wait a minute. A judge put a ban. He actually, I like how I kind of read. A judge over there. Actually struck down the gay marriage ban. Okay. And so instantly all the gays are running to go get married. You know what? Go ahead, man. What's the big fucking deal? So what? It's a tax break. If anything, it's a tax incentive. Jesus Christ, people. It's about money. Well, this is what's interesting. The federal courts, the federal appeals court in Cincinnati struck that down. So now again, you know, you take one step forward and you get 10 steps back. So I think it's really, really. I mean, it's a joke at this point. It's just a matter of time. It's a state of affairs, man. It'd be even disgusting just because. And here's the deal. Listen. It's irrelevant at this point. Who gives a fuck what anybody likes to do in the privacy of their own bedroom? You know, as long as you don't fucking bother me with your sexuality, as long as you're not infringing on my constitutional rights, you should have every right as much as I do. Yeah. You know, it's not like these people are knocking on your doors. Excuse me. Are you fucking that girl in the vagina? Oh, my God. That's terrible. You need to put it in my butt. It's really ridiculous. It's really ridiculous. This is really funny, though. Did you hear about Mick Jagger? Ugh. I heard he's very shattered. He's the Jagger Shatter. This is interesting. So I guess his. I get confused because this guy's been married so many times. I mean, this guy's really living the life. Dude, that guy's been banging a shelf pussy, top shelf pussy for 50 fucking years. That's crazy. That guy's got it too good. Okay. So I guess the death of his. Is it his wife? No. I guess it's his woman. All right. His hyena. So Loren Scott actually killed herself. I wonder why she killed herself. Probably killed herself because fucking Mick Jagger's a dick. But anyways, yeah, he's shattered. She died. I really don't care too much about that. The only thing that I find it funny is the fact that, you know, here's this guy who's what? He's over 70? He's pushing it. Dude. If he's not there already. He's banging some hot chicks. I know, dude. And so, like, I think he has to do the whole PR thing, like, you know, to show that he has remorse. Yeah, like. Yeah. But, you know, deep down, it's like, oh. Oh, hell yeah. I'm single. I'm really sad right now. I do need some time to collect myself. I'm really sad. I need to go to a strip club. You know what I mean? I need to get myself a nice little what? Stop crying. Sniveling. Ah, stop. I need to call Keith. Let's go somewhere. Let's go to Bali or somewhere. Yeah. So anyways, that's enough of that. All right. We got a great show for you today. This is really interesting. I did an in-depth interview. Are you familiar with Neil Jameson? Yeah. No, I'm not. Are you a fan of Twilight? The book? No. The band. No, not the movie. The band. You know, I'm not going to lie. I'm not familiar with them. Really? This is a super. They're labeled a super black metal group because it has all these. You know, I'm not even going to try to explain it, but this is interesting. More corpse pain? No. Actually, let me just go and say this real quick. Yeah, please indulge me. Please. I'm clueless here. It's always embarrassing. We'd like you reveal how much of a poser you are. No, here's the deal. Neil Jameson has been a pivotal figure in the underground black metal scene. Okay. He's in Krieg. He's a member of Twilight, which is a super group, which features Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth. Ah, yes. Amongst others. Now it's all starting to click. And I am a fan of Krieg and I am the fan of the project that Thurston Moore. He's also in a band called Lithodome. But what's really interesting about this guy is that he's been doing this for over 20 years. He really is one of the most prolific, musically diverse, and creative pioneer forces of the American black metal scene. He's also very influential, yet extremely controversial because he speaks his mind, Lost Johnny. So I have an in-depth exclusive interview where we talk about Twilight and their demise because they're officially over. There's some new Krieg material coming out and we also even touch base about Lithodome. This is a really good interview, man. I'm excited. Looking forward to playing that. Also, I want to welcome Jim Reed from Accordion. Cultist. We're going to be talking to Jim Reed, as you know. Or as you may not know, Cultist is coming to town. Are you familiar with that? Yes, I am. They're going to be playing here with, I believe, I think it's what, Iron Reagan? Yes. All right. We'll be talking to him. We're going to be talking to him as well. Got a great show. Real quick, though. Let me bring in, this is interesting. As you know, I'm going on the wagon. I'm not happy about that. I'm not happy about that at all. It's always sad when you like- Lest you be prevented. By being solicited by senior citizens. Yeah. Let me welcome, this is interesting, man. Hey, how you doing? I'm doing good. How are you? All right. Why don't you tell me- This guy doesn't look like the guy in the pictures. Do I look younger? Yes. Do I look more Mexican than the pictures? You look very moisturized there. Exactly. All right. So, you are the assistant manager to Holy Grounds Coffee, correct? That's correct. Okay. Why don't you introduce yourself? I'm sorry. My notes completely vanished. Well, I'm Jeffrey Dougherty. I've been working at Holy Grounds since last summer. Okay. About June. Okay. Let me mention what Holy Grounds is. Holy Grounds is a coffee shop that opened up in our neck of the woods. That's true. El Sereno. It's not just an ordinary coffee shop. I've been spending a lot of time there, but I'm really, you're going to see me there every day now. Now that I'm not drinking, man, I'm going to go and I'm going to be having all those coffees and espressos and teas and all that. Get your fix. What I really like about this coffee shop is the fact that being there, I'm not going to do that. It's in El Sereno. Are you from El Sereno? I'm from Boyle Heights, so pretty close. Are you familiar with El Sereno? Yeah. Are you familiar with the history, the lifestyle there? I'm learning more about it since I've been working there from all the customers. There are a lot of local people, so they kind of share the history about it too. Yeah. Let me just go back real quick, and I got to be very, very detailed here. I'm not bashing where I'm from, but as Los Johnny, you're also from El Sereno. I'm El Sereno. I'm from El Sereno. It's a very real world environment. What I mean by that, it's a beautiful neighborhood. It's a beautiful neighborhood, but it also being- It's rough. Oh, yeah. It can be pretty rough at times. It's a lower middle class, somewhat middle class neighborhood, and it has a long history of very positive things and very bad things. It's a real world neighborhood. And what I like about the fact that this coffee shop opened up there is that it just really has- it's kind of like an oasis. Yeah, it is. It really is, man. It's like a little piece of tranquility. Yeah. Once you walk inside and go into that little garden, it really does feel peaceful. Well, what I really like the most is that it actually provides an environment for kids, a positive environment for kids. Yeah. You know, like, I don't have children. I'm a big immature fucker. But when I go there and I see kids that, you know, relaxing, using the internet, you know, and the fact that this is not a corporation like Starbucks or Coffee Bean, this is an independent, you know, independently owned coffee shop. I think that's a fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair fair They're winning and they're making shit happen. Yeah, and they're not funded. It's all about the parents and they're going competing against these like super fucking colossal fucking bands. And yet they're really, you know. Well, another thing I have to add about the coffee shop in particular is not so much that it's in El Sereno. It's where in El Sereno it is. It's not on the main streets. It's kind of the beaten path, which is refreshing because you actually have to go there to indulge. I mean, it's not by the McDonald's or the Jack in the Box or wherever, but like you kind of have to get there. And when you do get there, that's the reward in itself. You find that tranquility. You find that little oasis of peace on a very busy industrial street. Now, we asked you here because I want to know a little bit about not only are you just a coffee shop. You're really going out of your way to be involved with the community. But real quick, how long has a coffee shop been around? It'll be two years in July. And especially this second year has been growing a lot more. We're getting more involved with the community. Aside from like that we carry Homeboy coffee cake or a local bakery, a Lagila bakery. We carry their guava cheesecake. That's what I love right there. Not only are you giving back to the community, but you're also helping economically with the other businesses. I've lived in El Sereno all my life. You know how many businesses I see come up? There was a point where like I remember I would walk down, let's just say Huntington Drive, and I would see a new business. And I'd be like, oh, this is a new business. And I'd be like laughing. They won't be here next month. Because there's like this whole, it's changing. And this is what I like. But before the mindset was not really involved with the community. And now that you have opened up and you're interacting with these other businesses, it's really changing the environment, not only in a sense of energy, but also economically. Yeah. Because, I mean, corporations have enough support that we try to actually support other local businesses. Because we're a small business ourselves. So it goes hand in hand. We're a small business. We try to help out other small businesses trying to do something similar to us. That's especially why we like to support Homeboy because they do a lot of good stuff. So we definitely want to support them. Yeah, I know. I'll keep supporting them because I don't want them. I like that they got jobs on. They're not jumping the ship. I mean, again, it kind of goes back to what you and I have grown up with, Counselor, in that for some extremely odd reason that when people go into El Sereno, it's like a weird pocket. It's like a vacuum of things. Things don't change. And when people or when something... They're changing now. I know what I'm saying. Like, it's a very gradual process of change for the better. But like we said in the past, you know, when something new tried to come in, it just would not work because it was, I mean, for lack of a better phrase, foreign. Yeah. It wasn't beneficial to the community as a whole. And again, this ties into where things are going for the better. Where you have all these little mom and pop companies coming together and adding a whole synergy. To the community, man. Well, look, great. Jeffrey, right? Yeah. I don't want to bullshit you. I'm going to also tell you why I love Holy Grounds Coffee. Aside from going there, it's a great environment. You're interacting with the community. You're providing a very positive environment for the kids. You got some hot smoking chicks there, dude. Oh, dude. We do get a lot of college students because college students are like, oh, I know you've been a mile away. I trim my nose hairs before I go to that coffee shop. I moisturize. I go there with a date, you know. Yeah, I see that every day. But okay, let's get back on track here. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So you've been around for two years. You're interacting with the community. Talk to me about these special events that you're doing. Let's talk about real quick about the Down Syndrome benefit that you're having. We just had that this past Friday because what we're doing, other than supporting local businesses, we also like to support local artists. And so we have art displayed there from local artists. And this past Friday, we had our first artist reception and it happened to land on World's Down Syndrome Day. So we had even art from one of the customers. Yes. Yes. And we had some with Down Syndrome who's also a really good artist. So he had some of his stuff displayed there. Plus another customer, she has a daughter with Down Syndrome who recently won a beauty pageant. And the fundraiser was mostly to help her get to Nashville where she's going to go to I think Nationals. So that was part of it. And so I guess it all came together on this day where it would have already been the Friday music nights, which we call Sacred Sounds. Talk to me about that. That's interesting as well. So on Fridays, you're going to be having live music at Holy Grail? The first and third Friday are going to be live music. And this past Friday, we just started something new where the third Friday is going to be music night as well as the artist reception for the rotating artists that are displaying their artwork there. So that's kind of new. So we're going to try to work on that, try to make that better where we almost kind of became like a gallery for a day and a venue for the day. Wow. So we're also trying to help out local artists that way. We're going to be helping out like painters and sketchers. And even like performance art where we try to give local musicians a venue that they probably didn't have before. People to like help develop the stage presence. Maybe it's the first time performing there. And you were talking about schools earlier. We actually had, I've been talking to one of the teachers from El Sereno High School. No, actually it's Wilson High School. Wilson High School. Yeah. And he is in charge of the hip hop club. So I've been trying to work with him to try to get his students to come perform and maybe they can host one of the Friday music nights themselves. Give their kids a chance to actually perform for a venue. And he did bring them once too, because we also have open mics on second and fourth Fridays. So he did bring some of his students to perform, only a few of them. So now that they get a few, maybe he can bring a bigger crowd and they can actually have their own night. And we'll be supporting the high schools that way too. Wow, man. You know, and this is all going on El Sereno Los Johnny. In our own neck of the woods, man. My backyard, man. Now let's talk about the owner. I wish he would have been here because he's also a very interesting person. His name is Steve Bolin. As you mentioned, he opened up this coffee shop two years ago. I would love to really talk to him. What has been the reaction now in the neighborhood? Because I know in the beginning, people were kind of skeptical. And I remember some people were like tripping out. Like, what is this? What's going on? Every time I go in there, though, I have not seen not once the typical El Sereno. Hey, you got a dollar? Yeah. Or the, you know, the, let's just say the sleep deprived person who's been up for seven days. You know? You got a problem with me? The whole clientele, the whole atmosphere is positive. Has that happened to you? Because you are in a real world neighborhood. Yeah, it's pretty rare, actually. It seems like, I guess we've all put out good energy other than Steve making a really cool place. He likes to say that he likes to set the table. And then us, like the baristas and the other workers, we all try to put out a good positive energy. And it seems to attract that energy back. So we don't get a lot of like sketchy people because I guess none of our workers are sketchy. So no one's going to come to like try to. Kind of relay with that energy. So we all put out good energy. And that's when we get back. You guys really do put out good energy. I got to commend all the baristas there. Because when I walk in there, I'm a very, I don't know if you're probably not going to believe this, but I'm a very negative motherfucker. And I get really that environment. That's why I go there. Because, I mean, it's different from the other coffee shops where no one really gives a fuck who you are. Yeah. They just, you know. I'm actually banned from Starbucks because I refuse to use that fucking lingo. I hate that shit. But, you know, you walk into this coffee shop. It's very pleasant. It's an environment. Everybody literally kind of like cheers. They know who you are. They know your name. They know what you like. The chicks are smoking hot. And then, you know, actually it's just overall a great experience. Talk to me about this stage that you're trying to build for the live music. Oh, yeah. Because right now we have a really nice upper patio that we just kind of clear off a corner from all the seats and just set up as that stage area. But it's not exactly a stage. So we're just kind of working on building a stage and add it not to the patio, but open up. So we can have more room and add the stage so we can have more room. And it'll look more like a venue where at least the musicians will be raised up just a bit. And it'll seem more because right now it's pretty intimate that we're at eye level. And it's cool for now. But I mean, since we are trying to expand, we are going to try to get a bigger stage area so that we can maybe fit more people and more people can enjoy the music. Because right now, since we're limited on room, it could get crowded on some nights. But if we were to add that space, there'll be more room for more people to enjoy the music. So are you do you have people that are coming on board to volunteer their time to help you build out? Yeah, we're getting some help right now. We don't have the full plans yet, but we do have someone down the street who who builds a lot of stuff. He has a shop where he builds a lot of stuff. So he's going to help us with the stage, the surrounding stage. And which is right now we're looking for help for the platform. OK, like the base. And then so he's going to help us with the covering. We're trying to make it almost like amphitheater like because I think that'd be really cool for music. Yeah. What kind of music are you planning on having there? It's mostly acoustic music because since it is a small space, we're limited. Oh, there goes question number two. Savage Ray will be playing there. Maybe when the stage comes and then we clear out all the seats, we'll have like mosh pits and stuff. No, you don't want that. That's too much. All right, man. It's more of an intimate venue where like right for now we have people sitting down because that's that's how it works. But if we could maybe get a stage and have like maybe some standing room, that's where we could actually fit more people, make it more venue like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And instead of a coffee shop, like. That's great, man. I mean, you know, the fact that it's in my my own backyard. So like you're open, you you're open to help out the artists. You're helping out the community. You're also helping economically with other, you know, self-owned, privately owned companies like, you know, the bakeries and stuff like that. You import you the beans that you purchase. Talk to me real quick about that. Oh, that's actually from another pretty local coffee shop is called Antigua Coffee. It's in Cypress Park. And. And, well, the owner, John C., he's been friends with Steve for a while. So, he actually. So, do you see the theme here in Los Chones? Like, it's all tied into. No, it's a total synergy, man. In El Cerrito. I know. It really is. Is that great or what? It's fucking awesome. All right. Let's give the address. Holy Grounds Coffee. By the way, let me just say this. If you're paying like $8 for a fucking. You know that I went to a place one time and they wanted to charge me $8? No. No way. I swear to God, dude. I said, what the fuck is this? Anyways. Do I get a hand job too? I'm surprised I didn't ask that. Yeah. All right. So, Holy Grounds Coffee. 5th, 371 Alhambra Avenue in the lovely city of El Cerrito. They're open from 8 a.m. Is that right? On the weekends, it's 8 a.m. But weekdays, it's 6 a.m. Yeah, right? And you guys don't close at 6 p.m. You guys have been there. Yeah, that's the weekends. Why don't you tell us the schedule? Monday through Friday, we're open from 6 a.m. to 9 p.m. And on the weekends, we open at 8 a.m. and close at 6 p.m. So, Monday through Friday, we're open late for all the students. People are coming in. People get off work at 5 a.m. We want to be open for them. But the weekends, it's different because it's a different crowd. Okay. And then you also have Poetry Night? Yeah. Those are the second and fourth Fridays is when we have open mics. That's more spoken word. Music is open too, but that's where it's more spoken word. And the other nights are more music oriented. So, we get a little bit of everything. Okay. And I guess if people really want to inquire about this great coffee house, you go to holygroundscoffeeandtea.com, correct? Yeah. And we also have a Facebook where we actually post a lot of our events. So, that's how you can stay more up to date. If you just follow us on Facebook and all our events are posted there. We share not just our events, but also stuff that's going on in the community too. All right, man. You know what? Like I said, this is in my own backyard. For those of you that are in that area, and if you're not, stop by there. This is a, you know, I'm a big advocate of independent businesses, man. So, there you go. Support your local businesses. Thanks for being here. Thank you. Let's get into some heavy shit. Hands off, Jenny. Hit it. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. 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We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Love is the key Love is my best way From your heart What do you mean? Will be done to you The end of time The end of time Is your case The end of your life Your case The fact that you gave this love your life and the end of life and the end of life is the end of life and the end of life is the end of life and the end of life and the end of life and the end of life and the day when when And now, here with an unlimited supply of misinformation is Mr. Know-It-All. All right, Sloss Johnny, what did we hear? Oh, man, we heard some fucking seriously heavy shit. I'm going to start from the top of the set that we played. A very cool cover of Black Sabbath's Wheels of Confusion by the Death Kings. Damn it. God damn it, that was great shit. Live from a 2014 performance, after that we heard the actual Black Sabbath, Under the Sun from their same record, Volume 4, my personal favorite of the catalog. After that, we heard Sleep, Holy Mountain, Jesus Christ, do I got to even explain this to you people? I shouldn't have to. After that, we heard Conan, yes, heavy, heavy shit from their record, Blood Eagle, the song, Total Conquest. And we ended this set with Chicago's own Indian playing the song, Directional, from their new record, From All Purity. Shit is heavy. Hey, all right, there's a great band. There's a great band from Richmond, Virginia that I came across sometime last year, man. We actually had one of the members here. This is a fantastic band. The band called Occultist. I believe we have Jim Reed on the phone. Jim, you there? Yeah, right here. How's it going, Jimmy? Hey, what's up, buddy? How you doing, man? Thanks for being on the Very Mad at Jimmy Cab Show. Yeah, it's a pleasure. I'm doing great, man. How's it going with you? I'm doing good, man. You're coming back to Southern California in April. Actually, April 13th, to be exact. You're going to be playing with Ghoul, Iron Reagan, and our local friends here, Witch Haven. How do you feel about playing that show? I'm stoked as shit, man. Really excited to see Witch Haven again. Actually, when Occultist first formed, one of our earliest shows was with those guys, and we haven't played with them since. So, excited to catch up with them again. Really? I'm amazed. Those motherfuckers play all the time. Constantly, all over the United States, man. They're real road dogs. Yeah, well, you know. I don't know. You know, things get weird. Lots of weird work schedules and all that shit. It's a weave between trying to play shows. So, are you going on tour with Ghoul and Iron Reagan? Yes. It's an official tour package. So, the West Coast is all Iron Reagan, us, and Ghoul. The only thing we're not playing with both those guys is Brain Squeeze, because that's more of a 10 Crimes official-only event, and we haven't put anything out on that label. We're not as affiliated with them as those two acts are. So, but yeah, we're doing everything else with them, though. Now, what's interesting is Ghoul and Iron Reagan, they tend to have a more younger demographic, man. Are you looking forward to playing with that demographic? Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm looking forward to, you know, meeting new people and seeing who's out there, you know. I'm getting to be old and jaded and kind of, like, hate everybody, and also young people, but I guess, you know, I'll be open to whatever responses happen, you know. Have you, this is interesting, because when I think of Occultist, first of all, Occultist is a sick fucking band, man. Yeah. Yeah. One of the things that I really like about your last record, which is, you know, why don't you help me here, because I'm going to butcher it. It's Death Sigalus? No, it's Death Sigil. You see how I fucked shit up, Lost Johnny? Jesus Christ. What I liked about that album is the fact that not only does it have all the essential, true underground elements to it, and what I mean by that is that it's fucking raw, it's sick, it's brutal, but the vocalist, this is what's interesting, your female vocalist really, really stands, stands out compared to all, like, the other female vocalists that are more, more in the media, especially recently with that whole Arch Enemy thing. When you listen to this album, you don't even, you can't even phantom that that's a female screaming on there, man. That's how brutal it is. Well, I'm not sure how she would feel about that, but I'm sure she'd be stoked either way that people are listening and checking it out. Yeah, she, I mean, she goes all out. It's, you know, firing at all cylinders and, you know, till the knob breaks off every time with her. What's the reaction when you're playing live and for people that are not familiar with your band and then they see you guys go out there on all cylinders, all brutal, and then they see a female vocalist? Have you had that kind of adverse reaction where people are tripping out? Yeah, yeah, we have. People, you know, been very surprised, I guess. I mean, also, she was, like, real animated live and kind of just puts her body in harm's way and puts other people in harm's way, so it's pretty confrontational. So, yeah. I don't think people are expecting it, you know, from looking at us when we get out there and plug the instruments in to what happens after the instruments, you know, go live and everything starts happening. But, yeah, yeah, we've gotten that. And, of course, there's been, like, the stupid, you know, comments from idiots, like, you know, oh, man, she's really good for a chick. And it's like, well, I guess you've got a good opinion for a dick, you know? You know what? She's good, period. What is her name? Carrie Zalestra. Yeah, she's sick, man. She's straight up. I haven't seen the call. I haven't been fortunate. That's why I'm glad that you're coming to the West Coast. Let me mention this real quick. Occultus. Sick fucking band, man. They're going to be playing with Ghoul and Iron Reagan. This is brought to you by The Poor Kids. Wow, The Poor Kids. I don't think they're poor anymore, man, because this is in conjunction with Golden Boys. This is going to be at the Roxy. This is Sunday, April 13th. Make sure you get there, because also Witch Haven is on the bill, which is a really great band. Have you played Los Angeles before? I don't think you have, right? No, this is our first time there. This is our first time on the West Coast, man. I can't wait for you to play out here, because what I like about bands like yourselves, when they come into Los Angeles, they really, really shake things up with the fucking poser, so-called wannabe hardcore bands that exist here, man. It's always great to see bands coming into Los Angeles and just showing truly how it is done compared to these fucking windmill rock star motherfuckers, man. Talk to me about the album. The album came out, got a lot of good reviews, and it's been a lot of fun. What are you doing now? Are you writing new material as we speak? Are you just touring off that record? That's what we're doing. We're writing new material. We have basically four songs with all the music constructed that we're just sort of tightening up and just getting little guitar intricacies in place and finishing up lyrics and vocals for. So we're going to be doing a four-song EP, recording that pretty much, hopefully, as soon as we get back from this tour in April. And then I think I mentioned to you that we're going to be recording a new album. We recorded that cover song, the Plasmatics cover for Split, we have coming out as well. Yeah, that's awesome. How'd you come about that idea? What song are you covering? We're covering The Damned by the Plasmatics for a record store day split with Noisem. That's going to be out on A389 Recordings. And it's going to be like a record store day exclusive. I can't fucking talk today. But yeah, we're real excited about it. By the way, Noisem is an awesome band to do a split with. Yeah, yeah. And they're nice guys. We played our record release show with them in Pig Destroyer back in December. And they were like the nicest guys. And Dom runs A389. I think he kind of came up with the idea. And I guess the guys in Noisem were already like, they already seen us before or something. They liked us. So they were like, yeah, that sounds awesome. Let's have them do it. And that's kind of how it came about. Yeah, man, you know what? I'm always amazed that you haven't come out to the West Coast before because I've spoken to like pivotal figures in the underground. And they all mention your band, man. I'm surprised you haven't come out here. Why is that? Is it economics? Is it just the... Economic, man. I mean, to be point blank, we're all pretty fucking broke. And like, you know, we're spread thin with a lot of things in our personal lives. But, you know, which is probably like par for the course with fucking most bands that play this kind of music, you know? But, you know, it's just that kind of stuff. And, you know, I also work on the road touring for other bands. Sometimes my schedule will conflict with things that we want to do. But I'm trying to pare some of that back to stay in town more and try to keep touring with my own band. A little more of a priority than just working for other bands. Right on, man. So how can people get a hold of your recent release? Death sigils can be obtained through Primitive Ways Records, which is primitivewaysrecords.com. And you can order it on there. Obviously, we'll have them at the shows, too. If anybody's going to come out to any of the West Coast shows, we'll have them there. I got to have one, man. Are you going to have vinyl? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's all vinyl. Right now, we only have vinyl and digital. We haven't actually made CD, which might annoy some people. But we just haven't done it yet. And obviously, Jimmy, I've got not just your shirt. I've got shirts put aside for you. Well, we ran out of merch. That was a thing. We didn't re-open our order. We ran out of merch for the size that you wanted. So now we're going to try to re-open everything. So we'll have some stuff set aside for you. Right on, man. Thanks, man. I appreciate that. Let's just hope it fits. I want a fuck Jimmy Cavs shirt, though. You know what? I'm going to get you one, man. I'm going to get you one. I'll wear it at the Roxy if you get me one. You know what? Consider it done, bro. I got you hooked up. Let's mention this again. So the poor kids. Those motherfuckers aren't poor no more. The poor kids and Golden Voice presents Ghoul, Iron Reagan, Occultist, and Witch Haven. Okay, why should you go to this show? Because, well, why? Yeah, but those kids are going to drive me fucking nuts, man. But either way, it's at the Roxy. Get your tickets at ticketfly.com. This is what's most important. You know, make sure you go and check out Occultist because this band has truly a pivotal underground band. And this is going to be their first time in Los Angeles. So let's get the credible people out there and let's give this band a great support. Tell us again how people can get a hold of your release. Go to primitivewaysrecords.com and you can order it right there or come on out to the show. We'll have plenty of them at the merch table. We made sure that we'd have plenty of them. Yeah, fuck yeah. Buy the merch, man, because trust me, you guys are fucking truly underground. You need that money, man. You know? Yeah, I got that. When you're playing with bands like Ghoul and Iron Reagan, as you mentioned before, they have like a more younger demographic and as is with the young, you know, they're fucking crazy and shit like that. Being that we're more seasoned, veteran, mature underground guys, do you get as annoyed as I do when they're fucking crawling all over your ass and spilling your beer or just basically being fucking rude motherfuckers? Well, I mean, you know, I've got a pretty high tolerance. I'm pretty patient. But there does, you know, get to the point where a motherfucker just has to get hit and that might happen. But, you know, but I try not to. I mean, if it's something that's real innocent and just kind of, you know, missteps of youth, I'm not going to really hold it too far against somebody. But if it's someone just being a malicious prick, then I'm going to, you know, I'm going to react. Yeah, man. Because you guys are the real deal. That's for damn sure. You know, there's another band I work for I'm sure you're familiar with. And let's just say I've seen it all. Yeah, I know. You literally have seen it all. Yeah. And, you know, I, you know, driving out there with them and just... Anything you could possibly imagine I've probably experienced as far as like just crazy, strange interactions with people. Yeah, man. Well, I can't wait for you to come to the City of Angels, man. The Occultists is a sick fucking band, man. Again, let me mention this. The Poor Kids and Golden Voice are presenting Ghoul, Iron Reagan, Occultists, and Witch Haven. This is happening April 13th. That's at the Roxy in Hollywood. So there you go. Talk about coming to Los Angeles and playing top-notch venue on the Sunset Strip, son. Yeah, I've got a funny story about the Roxy last time I was there. Tell me about it. Well, I was... Last time I was there to actually see a show was in 2002. Okay. And I saw Blood for Blood there, actually. Wow, wow, really? I thought you were going to tell me you saw like fucking, you know, the Pej Mode or some shit. Ah, well, you know, I had some friends coming out to the show. Long and short of it is a friend of mine was like, yeah, meet me out there, man. And, you know, I got a cab out there, and I ended up, you know, doing the classic leaving the wall in the cab. Luckily, I was able... The guy that knew the door guys was able to still, like, get in. And I got into the show, and then my friend disappeared long and short of it, I guess. Like, he basically just, like, got drunk and forgot about me or whatever. And I had to end up walking back from the Roxy because I had no money. I had to walk from the Roxy all the way to where, like, Universal Studios is. Oh, fuck! Dude. Yeah, it's a trick. Yep, I think I got home at 5 in the morning. Oh! And I had blisters on my fucking feet and everything. So, like, it'd be nice to roll in, you know, there under a different set of circumstances this time. Well, at least you're well-conditioned, though, so, you know. Wow, that's a... Yeah. Well, if I gotta walk, I'm ready. Well, I'll tell you what, man. We'll make sure that doesn't happen again. Okay, so you're coming to Los Angeles. Please don't make this guy walk again. Fuck, that's horrible, dude. That's a bad story. My back's hurting. That's a long walk, isn't it? Yeah, it is. April 13th, Sunday, April 13th, the Roxy. Poor kids, Golden Voice, they're bringing Ghoul, Iron Reagan, Occultist, and Witch Haven. Make sure you get your tickets at Ticketfly. Also, go check out Occultist's new release. You can pick that up one more time. Where, Jim? PrimitiveWavesRecords.com or from our merch table. All right, man. Jim, I want to thank you for being on the Very Manic Jimmy Caps show. I'm really looking forward to seeing you come to Los Angeles and seeing you play, bro. Yeah, man, looking forward to hanging out with you guys. I think Scott's coming out, too, Peterson. Yeah, yeah. I'll see all you dudes there. It's going to be a nice reunion, man. It was great talking to you, Jim. All right, take care, guys. Take care. Let's listen to some Occultist. This is a great fucking band. Hands off, Jenny. Hit it. Hit it. What's great, cause it's evil, you need more Take my heart, feel the pain You need more, just hold me It's got a heart, it's not a mind It's not a passion, it's not a way It's got a heart, it's not a mind It's not a passion, it's not a way It's got a heart, it's not a way Don't burn me when I burn Don't burn me when I burn Don't burn me when I burn I'm a fucking satan, I'm a fucking monologue Everybody feels wrong Can't be me and you are wrong It's kind of hard to do a sacrifice To do a sacrifice To do a sacrifice And I want to be magnified To do a sacrifice To do a sacrifice To do a sacrifice I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead I'm dead, dead, dead interview with Neil Jamison. This is an artist that I really respect because aside from the fact that he's a groundbreaking, pivotal underground artist with his own band, Krieg, he's actually gone on and done different musical projects. And each one of them really takes, it really breaks new ground and pushes the envelope of true underground music. So with that, this is the beginning. We have three segments of this interview. This is where we talk about Twilight. Twilight, it's been labeled a super group because it has all these pivotal underground black metal figures in it. And it also includes Thurston Moore, which is interesting, who plays in Sonic Youth. But anyways, let's cut the jabber. Let's get into this interview. This is when Neil Jamison hit it. All right, this is Jimmy Cab's Tape to Broadcast, the very manic Jimmy Cab show. I have Neil Jamison on the phone with me from, this is very interesting, Twilight, Krieg, and Lithotome. How you doing, man? I'm good, man. You know, dude, let me first start off by saying that it's no secret and it's well documented. I made this comment the last time that you were on my show. You are a very, very diverse, very talented, very pioneering artist in the American black metal scene. But as is the case, you are highly ripped off. You do not get the respect that you deserve. And now that you've been especially breaking new barriers and new genres in music, you seem to be highly criticized. What do you think about that and what are your opinions? Well, it's pretty challenging. I mean, I've never really done anything in order to get accolades. I'm not hoping that someone takes one of my records, puts a gold star on it, and puts it on the fridge for mom to see. It's just not... It's not really why I ever set out to do this. The criticism, I figured, with how a Twilight record sounds, with a lot of elements that aren't really related to black metal, plus having Thurston Moore on it, I figured that we would receive a fair amount of criticism. And then there is the elephant in the room that is when Blake was removed from Twilight, a lot of his fans took us to task for it. But again, as long as I'm personally satisfied with what I'm doing, I don't care. At the end of the day, at the end of my life, I have to be the one that feels no regrets and feels that sense of total satisfaction with what I've done. And if people like it, then hey, great. But if they don't, that doesn't mean that I'm going to stop because my feelings are hurt because some basic dwelling asshole on the internet has something to say about things that he has no understanding of. Let's discuss the Twilight Project. This is really interesting. It's been described as an American black metal supergroup, but I don't feel that it represents the band at all like that. If you allow me to kind of give you my interpretation of it, to me it seems that it's pivotal pioneering artists who come together to really express themselves in a whole new way and escape from their so-called titles that they belong to. Would that be somewhat accurate? Would you agree with that? Well, if we're going to look at it in, like, more simplistic terms, it really is just a band of people, a band of musicians coming together to make music no different than any other band, really. The fact that we've all been involved in other projects that have some kind of notoriety doesn't really, that was never the point. It was never a manufactured supergroup, so to say, where we were brought together by a label for marketing or something like that. Supergroup really doesn't represent anything to me except crass commercialism on the part of record labels, and we've never really had a record label for the three albums that we did that pushed us as a supergroup. I mean, they would definitely highlight who we were just in order to get fans of our individual projects and whatnot interested into it, but we've never really been treated like some kind of manufactured boy band. Supergroup really just isn't the right term for us. What I really like about this project is the fact that it seems that you all collectively come together as one. Is that accurate? And when you're writing, is that accurate when you're writing the material? Are you all contributing to this project? Initially, we were all bringing songs to the table and then just kind of work off of that until we did the first record. And once we got together to do the second record, it was more of... about one thought process. Everybody contributed, but then it was a lot more cohesive. We had time to be able to work on different parts of songs with each other. It wasn't as rushed as the first one was. And when this one came together, we've all been working with each other long enough that it was just a basic democratic band situation. This time around, we decided that each of us would play up to our strengths. Uh-oh. As far as writing and performing, which is why I'm doing vocals and lyrics, but I didn't contribute any music, really. So basically, you have transformed into a well-functioning real band, correct? I don't know about how well-functioning we are, but yeah, I'd say that there is a transition into a real band. Okay, let's mention the new album that's out. This is called Beneath Trident's Tomb, the Third. That's an interesting title, man. What's the story behind it? Well, around the end of the first record, we decided that Twilight was going to be based on a core of three of us, which would be myself, Jeff Whitehead, and Blake Judd. And so then the number three, you know, eventually came to represent us. And while the third record was going on, it became very apparent to us that Blake's head wasn't in the game. He was in... He was in the game. It became very apparent to us that Blake's head wasn't in the game. He was in... He was in it for a lot of the wrong reasons, and a lot of his personal habits just came to light that we were all aware of, but we didn't think that the gravity of the situation was going to be as... have as much of an effect on us. So while we were doing it, we basically knew that this was probably going to be it. And so the trident representing the three of us and Beneath Trident's Tomb, it just represents the end of the band. It was kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy because at the end, at the end of the recording, I decided that that was it for me, that I had to leave. Wow. I kept it pretty quiet because I had a lot of other things on my plate. And I wanted to make sure the record came out and that it wasn't marred by any kind of inner band drama, which, as you know, really did not work out the way that we had intended. And about October of last year, I decided that I was going to leave. I decided that I was going to leave. I decided that I had had enough. And then when Blake got sent to the pokey, it was just a decision that this had to be done. It was over. There's no way that we could function with him in the band and without him, the project was pretty much nailed, coffin's nails or what have you. So the title of the record is really just a self-fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, it seems to represent, not only what was going on at the time, but also, like you mentioned, it just pretty much described the sentiment you were feeling, huh? Yeah. That would be a good way to put it. So is Twilight officially over? Yeah, we're done. Members of the band are going to work together in the future. Definitely. Me and Whitehead have been discussing doing a record together for the better part of five years now. So we're probably going to... We're going to get together hopefully within the next year or two and do that. And I would be definitely open to working with Stavros and Sanford again. And Thurston has an appearance on the new Creek record. And I would love to work with him again. So we're going to all work together in some capacity without Blake. But as far as Twilight's concerned, the project's done. Wow. Is that why this album really has... This album really stands out compared to the other two releases. There seems to be a more... What? I would like to say human emotion in this, man. Talk to me about your sentiments on this record. Because when I listen to this record, there seems to be a lot of human emotions. And especially what I would like to say, somewhat real expressive human emotions. Like anger, frustration, despair. Talk to me a little bit about that. Well, at the time that we came together to record it, we'd all... Gone through a lot of transitions in our lives. Jeff had had his highly publicized court case that he won. And I've been battling with bipolar disorder and depression for a long time. And after around 2008 or so, my life just kind of took a lot of twists and turns that are not the most comfortable or enjoyable. And so... That's where my emotion came out of it. And Blake was going through a divorce when we went into the studio. And there's just a lot of negative energy in all of our lives put together. And so this record is an expression of that. Just like the previous two were, it's always been the same theme, which is personal negativity, personal darkness. And the catastrophes and tragedies, which we all have to deal with, to deal with and go through. And so that's where the emotion comes from. There's no... You couldn't really call it a black metal record because there is no personification of any kind of demonic spirit or anything like that. There's nothing that lyrically or aesthetically really has to do with the original concept of black metal. And I think that that's also true with a lot of the music that we do personally because it is all about... It's all a reflection of our lives. It's very autobiographical. Even if a lot of it's hidden in allegory and metaphor, it still all boils down to the personal experiences that we have day to day that shape us. Okay, so let's get back on track here. Twilight. That project is over. Did you ever play live as Twilight? Nope. That never happened, right? It would just be... The amount of preparation that we would need to do it would be immense. And with everybody living in different parts of the country and everybody having their own bands, their own schedules, and plus everybody works, none of us would be able to take a month off to be able to get it right. Yeah. And at this point, there's already such expectations that we would never be able to live up to that. I mean, even this record, because it's being delayed almost two years, you know, there have been people who say they didn't live up to what they were expecting. And that's because when you have something like this, it's just going to snowball. You know, all the attention could be positive, but at the same time, all this attention is leading up to disappointment for a lot of people. Right. I'm not going to say that we're, you know, Chinese democracy or something like that. But, you know, you do run the risk of that. And with how our music is, the last two records, one small thing live could go wrong and that would just, we'd hit the bed. It would be completely over and it would be embarrassing. We got offered some insane opportunities live. Like, we got offered Coachella. We were talking about Roadburn. And, well, you know, hey, that would be an interesting experience. There's just no amount of preparation that we could undertake to make it even sound remotely close to the records. I admire that note, Neil. You know, because most artists would always take the check and not really give a fuck about the credibility and the integrity of the music. That's very commendable right there. What are your sentiments on the demise of Twilight, the band? Uh, I don't know. I'm apathetic to it at this point. The last two years since we began recording the record, you know, from walking into the studio to, you know, Tuesday when it was released in North America, it's been continually stressful and difficult. And I'm honestly happy to be done with it. And I know that that is the same feeling that everyone else involved has. Yeah. Because it's just been, it's just been so overly dramatic. You know, we set out to record a fucking record. We didn't set out to, you know, have to explain why Blake went to jail or where, you know, that stuff that you ordered from Blake that never came, where's that? Or, you know, why isn't, you know, this person on the record and why is this person on the record? Like, we never set out for any of that. We set out to record, we wrote an album. Yeah. And that was it. And it's just become a three-ring fucking circus dealing with it. Yeah. We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the We are the I am the one I am the one I am the one I am the one I am the one I am the one I am the one I am the one I am the one I am the one I am the one I am the one I am the one I... Am a innocent I... Am... Am... Am... Nothing In the night No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep I need to sleep Why? These dreams are only for you and me And me It's not a message to you Only A dream To be To be A dream To be To be To be To be Forever Doesn't matter when I wake up Doesn't matter when I wake up Doesn't matter when I wake up Doesn't matter when I wake up Doesn't matter when I wake up Doesn't matter when I wake up Take my hand I am yours I am yours We are We are We are We are We are We are We are We are We are We are We are We are We are We are passionate about it but it's just not for me when when you're writing for krieg as i mentioned before you under the pivotal uh forefront american black metal artist how do you keep your work in krieg uncontaminated from what's been going on that let's just say within the last 10 years in the black metal scene and do you still consider krieg a black metal band i don't know if i do stay uncontaminated from a lot of the things that are going on and part of that has to do with the fact that my listening habits are all over the map and if you listen to enough things that are outside of black metal eventually that's going to subconsciously absorb in and you're going to take parts of what you're passionate about and that's going to come through in your work so there's definitely influences from cross-punk and post-punk industrial noise folk whatever even classic certain classic rock and what i do i i would still call krieg a black metal band but we've never been a black metal band in the last 10 years and i think that's a really important thing to consider because it's a very traditional satanic aspect today it's always been more about nihilism and like i said earlier personal darkness versus any kind of glorification of uh of a spirit or any kind of mocking of imaginary friends it's just not really ever been on my uh my agenda i feel that there's a lot of bands that do take orthodox satanism or whatever term you want to use and they do it a lot better than anything that i could do because they actually believe this whereas it's not something that's in my spectrum of beliefs and it's just something i i think that it's wrong i just don't care if they believe it then that's that's you know their lives they have to live it uh it's never really been a concern of mine i definitely respect a lot of these bands i feel that uh a lot of them have produced great music and Incredible atmospheres throughout the years. So in that sense, I don't know if I could call Kareka a black metal band anymore. At the same time, it is black metal. Because black metal to me is how I define it. It doesn't have to be anybody else's rule book. And I don't really want to put any other kind of label on it, like post-black metal or post-rock, or hogging metal or any of that shit, or Cascadian or any of those terms, because that's just marketing. That's not a description of the music. That doesn't describe how you feel when you listen to it post anything. It doesn't describe fucking anything. These are just terms that academics have come up with because they can't make music themselves, so they'll either criticize it or they will write about it in a scholastic... scholastic manner which takes all of the personality and any kind of human element out of it and just turns it into another commodity. Well put, man. You know, well put. When you're writing music in general, as you mentioned before, you have so many diverse musical tastes. And as an artist, that is really... Correct me if I'm wrong. I think that's essential. Because to stay somewhat boxed in, really limited, it's your artistic capability. Your diverse musical taste. Is that why you have all these other different projects like, as we mentioned before, Twilight and then Lithotome? Is that way of... Is this a way of you musically expressing yourself with all these influences and everything that you're taking in? Part of it, definitely, is the fact that I'm not the Ramones. I'm not Motorhead. I'm not a... write the same record over and over again. Right. And... those are bands that that works for... when you pick up a Murderhead record and you know exactly what you're gonna get... or at least you hope you know what you're gonna get... and 9 times out of 10 you're gonna get that... and it's great... it's... really... full of a lot of emotion... and a lot of... just... exactly... what you'll need... out of a band like that... Uh... personally... if I were to do... that... the same record over and over again. Sure, it satisfied some fans, but I just, I get bored easily. And I'm always trying to grow as a writer and as a musician. Whether or not that comes through, you know, that's not really for me to say. But another aspect of me doing so many projects is I've been fortunate enough that I have some very good relationships with some very talented and creative people. And if they approach me about working together, it's something that I can see being artistically and emotionally satisfying for myself. And I'm going to take the opportunity. And I've been lucky enough that a lot of people have approached me to do various projects and contributions and collaborations. And that's kind of how this just well of other bands, and other collaborations I'm involved with has sprung up. Are you always amazed when you're working with these other talented artists? Like, for instance, just to mention a few, you've worked with The Body. Those guys are amazing. You've mentioned before also Thurston Moore. I mean, do you find yourself creatively not only rediscovering new artistic terrain, but also refilling your creative tank? And is it exciting for you and refreshing? And is it something where, you know, it's a new thing that you're doing, so you have that vibrant, creative energy, whereas if you're kind of just doing the same thing over and over again, it becomes mundane, boring, and eventually dead? Well, getting to work with people like that is challenging to me. It causes me to force my mind to take in, be receptive to new ideas. And I'm almost at a point where I'm like, I'm almost a student when I work with a lot of these people because I watch them work, and I learn new ways of going about things and new ways to look at things. And so through that, it's incredibly satisfying. And it's definitely probably my personal favorite aspect of being a musician is getting to work with other people that have so many different, different backgrounds and ideas and ways of going about things. And it's really interesting for me to be able to interpret their work with how I would go about things and then vice versa, seeing how I would take something to the table and see how they would run with it. Who has been your favorite artist? I know this is really a hard question, but who would you say you've really learned from immensely and enjoyed where, and rediscovered something about yourself artistically due to, collaborating with this artist? Oh, that's easy, Jeff Whitehead. Really? Without a doubt. Yeah, he's taught me so many new ways to go about things and different ways to look at music that I might've come to on my own eventually, but probably not. He's probably been the greatest professor as far as just watching how he records, how he writes, how he thinks, and then the exchange of ideas between him and others and him and myself. Out of anybody that I've worked with, I would drop everything that I'm doing to work with him again on something. It's just that important to me. That must be so rewarding, man, when you're actually working with, I don't want to use the word mentor, but I mean, that's the word that's coming to my mind, when you're working with someone that can not only elevate you as an artist, but just open up the horizons and teach you shit, man. man that's got to be awesome oh yeah and i would definitely use the word mentor that that's uh that's a perfect term for it uh i've been fortunate enough to have several uh it's almost like i never left any kind of uh schooling because i'm constantly working with people who are teaching me so You are the end of the line You'll never ever change You're the fire in my heart Fire You're the fire in my heart Fire Fire Fire Fire You think I would accept your sick soul You think you can soothe my soul But you're just a huge weapon For my embrace Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire Fire We've met before, haven't we? We've met before, haven't we? We've met before, haven't we? We've met before, haven't we? We've met before, haven't we? We've met before, haven't we? We've met before, haven't we? We've met before, haven't we? We've met before, haven't we? I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm not the one I'm there right now. I'm there right now. I'm there right now. I'm there right now. I'm there right now. I'm there right now. I'm there right now. I'm there right now. I'm there right now. All right. Lost Johnny, what did we hear? Oh, Krieg. Song Deviant. Pretty fucking metal, man. Pretty fucking brutal. Before that, we heard the Eternal Tunes with their song Deconstructing from the record. Actually, that was a Krieg song, too. Sorry about that. From the Black Cows. Before that, we heard Lithotone. That's some cool shit. The name of that song is called Coma Void. And we started the set with Leviathan. What? Fresh Hell. From the record Tentacles. Of Horror. That's spelled W-H-O-R-R-O-R, kiddies. All right. You know what? We're going to be playing some new Krieg later on in the show. But let's get right back into this exclusive interview I conducted with Neil Jameson. This is where we talk about the new Krieg and a bunch of other good stuff. But real quick, Wednesday, April 9th, Krieg is coming to Los Angeles. Chris Hatewar is bringing Krieg along with Harasser, a bunch of other bands. This is going on at the Five Star in downtown L.A. Make sure you go. Go and see what I've known for a long time. The true masters of block metal. Krieg. Wednesday, April 9th. All right. Hands up, Jenny. Hit it. Let's talk about Krieg. Krieg is coming back. They're coming back to Los Angeles. You'll be here April 9th. There's going to be a new Krieg record, I believe. Yeah, we just finished recording it in late February. It's called Transient, and it's going to be out on Candlelight in probably August. What would you describe? The inspiration and the lyrical content on this new record? This new record is a lot angrier. It's got a lot of experimentation in it, but not as overtly obvious as what I attempted with Isolationist. It's a lot more cohesive. And part of that is I have a full time band. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. I'm going to be playing a lot of music. done has been written either in the studio or directly before the studio. Right, right. And we've never had this level of preparation. Did you enjoy having a band working with you? Yes. Yeah, definitely. I'm lucky in that I have a band on the West Coast that I can work with and a band on the East Coast that I can work with. It's given a lot more live opportunities, which we've been taking. We've been flying nonstop for almost two years now, just all over. And that's helped out a lot. It's helping to remind people that I'm still here or that to new people that this is a band that you may not have checked out before or you may have heard in negative connotations. But here, it's a band that I've been working with for a long time. It's a band that I've been working with for a long time. I haven't even touched a single one of them when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was a kid when I was that you get and the fact that now that you have a live band it really dispels that whole rumor mill that you're that you're an egomaniac that you really wanted to have uh no contact with anybody because you wanted the attention to yourself it's all dispelled because you do enjoy having a band with you and you're performing well there was definitely a time i'm not gonna say that i don't have an ego because that would be complete uh horseshit i would say that it's confidence neil i would say you're just a confident artist well that's a nice way to put it and i appreciate it but uh as far as not wanting to have contact like that was just i'm not a very social person uh i'm actually incredibly socially awkward and that a lot of that was a cover for it it wasn't you know oh my god i can't be around people because i'm above them like no i can't be around people because i'm probably going to say something fucking stupid and you know just dispel the idea that people have about me and i was i was definitely very conscious of that when i was younger that you know a lot of it i'm i'm a unfortunately sensitive person and so when i was younger i didn't know how to handle a lot of the criticism that was leveled at me and i was like well i'm not going to be around people that are like me so i just put up these walls and that sort of it felt like it was protecting me and it really wasn't it just made me look like a dickhead and uh as i got older i started to realize that part of life is getting out and experiencing other people's perspectives and whatnot and so i've gradually been opening up to that uh i'm still really awkward when people come up and document shows uh i fuck up handshakes all the time uh and another thing is when i was younger uh and this is where another part of the criticism comes uh i would run my mouth constantly and um in some cases it might have been justified and in a lot it definitely wasn't and i didn't win a lot of uh you know i don't get a lot of christmas cards from uh from those people and uh yeah i don't get a lot of christmas cards from those people and uh yeah i don't get a lot of christmas cards from those people and uh yeah i don't get a lot of christmas cards from those people and uh yeah i don't get a lot of christmas cards from those people as i've gotten older i've tried to make amends to where i might have overstepped my boundaries and then you know go from there walk away from it with a clean conscience and uh do you feel that you've gone as well as you can expect do you feel that because of those uh situations and then of course that feeds into the rumor mill where the rumor mill all of a sudden turns into so-called quote-unquote fact is that why you feel like you're not going to be able to uh do you feel that you're not going to be able to uh do you feel that you're not going to be able to feel that your art is truly not as uh uh uh uh respected and classified where it should be uh i'm sure that you know being an asshole hasn't hasn't won me any uh any awards as far as that's concerned uh also what i do isn't isn't for everybody and that's probably a big part of it longevity doesn't automatically denote quality and just because i've been doing this for almost 20 years doesn't mean that everything i've done jimmy taps has been the golden egg you know like i've definitely put out some shit and uh even if i'm satisfied with it you know there's definitely people who have looked at it and like well you know this really isn't worth my time and you know whatever different strokes for different folks but uh yeah yeah i'm sure that that's helped get that get the rumor mill going i mean with anything there's always going to be people that are catty who are going to talk yeah absolutely take things wrong and you know or people who are just they're so insecure with their own place in the world that they're going to do their best to care other people who you know they haven't any kind of margin of success now just because it's going to make them feel better yeah that's true that's really true well Well, Neil, I got to tell you, man, I've always admired you as an artist. And the fact that you've opened up and really just showed your true humanity is not only commendable, but it really just goes to show that you are the real deal. And that's why your music is so fucking intense and sick. Let's mention this again. Twilight, number three, Beneath the Trident's Tomb. That's out now. Krieg, you're recording or you've completed recording the new album. When will this be out again? In August, probably. And is there a working title? Yeah, it's going to be called Transient. Transient. And that's going to be coming out soon. Let's talk about Lithodome. You have something out released now, correct? Uh-huh. Yeah, we have a self-titled, I don't fucking remember. No, it's called Comavoid. And that was released last year on Fall of Nature in Australia. Wow. So many different diverse projects, but they all encompass the same energy and the same creativity, man. I commend you, dude. Thank you for taking the time to talk to me, man. April 9th, you're going to be playing Los Angeles, the five-star, April 9th with Krieg. That's going to be a great show, man. Thanks, brother. I appreciate it. All right. That was an in-depth, exclusive interview. Los Johnny, I mean, how more in-depth can you go? That guy's any more deeper. I'm going to need a fucking... Scuba gear. All right, man. I mean, that guy really talked about everything openly and honestly. I want to thank Neil Jamison for just being straight up real, man. You can catch him, as I mentioned before. Five-star. This is happening Wednesday, April 9th at the five-star. This is brought to you by Chris Hatewar. Make sure you get a pair of tickets right now for free. Send me a message on Jimmy Cab saying, Jimmy, you should start drinking again and get you a pair of tickets. We're going to be playing right now. This is an exclusive right here. This is a debut. This is a debut of New Krieg. Jenny, you want to play that music for me? Hit it! Hit it! ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah I am going to kill you Not now Not tonight That would be too easy Maybe next week Next month You'll never know Think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it Don't even think about it All right, that was FCD and Tormentor. They're going to be playing July 12th, the Jesse Pentado Grindcore Festival. And what we were supposed to do was give away a pair of tickets. So let's play the music for the ticket giveaway. All right, you want a pair of tickets to go see FCD and Tormentor, Warmaster, Murder Construct, Nausea, Phobia, Vermouth, and a bunch of other great bands? Holy shit. These are a pair of tickets right now, courtesy of the Grindcore people. Send me a message on Jimmy Cabs on Facebook, and you'll get a pair of tickets. Let's play some more bands that are going to be playing July 12th at the Jesse Pentado Grindcore Festival. And with that, we're going to end the show. See ya! ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ I'm your pain, I'm your love It's in your head, it's in your heart I'm your pain, I'm your love It's in your head, it's in your heart It's in your head, it's in your heart It's in your head, it's in your heart It's in your head, it's in your heart It's in your head, it's in your heart It's in your head, it's in your heart It's in your head, it's in your heart It's in your head, it's in your heart in the sunlit world of what he believes to be reality. But there is, unseen by most, an underworld, a place that is just as real, but not as brightly lit. A dark side. A dark side.