Well, the time has come to say, is dehumanization such a bad word? If it's good or bad, that's what it's so. The whole world is becoming humanoid, creatures that look human but aren't. The whole world, not just us, we're just the most advanced country, so we're getting there first. The whole world's people are becoming mass-produced, programmed, numbered, insensate things. This is all that remains after a U.S. drone strike killed Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansour here in southwest Pakistan. Afghan officials confirmed his death Sunday. The attack is likely to dash any immediate prospect for peace talks. In Myanmar, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry defended himself. The strike, saying Mansour posed a continuing imminent threat to the country. This action sends a clear message to the world that we will continue to stand with our Afghan partners as they work to build a more stable, united, secure, and prosperous Afghanistan. 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It's time for some real music. It's showtime! We have seen imitators! We've also seen duplicators! But now, it's time for the originators! All right, Los Angeles and the rest of the world. What a fucked up world it is, I must tell you. You're listening to the very manic Jimmy Cab Show. I am your host, Jimmy Cabs. Sitting here literally alone today, Lost Johnny is nowhere to be found. Scott Peterson of Cryptic Slaughter, we don't know where he's at. That's okay. Because I have you here to entertain me, and I'm going to entertain you. Broadcasting live from gentrified downtown Los Angeles. Boy, what a fucking day. Let me tell you real quick. I went to go get a cup of coffee across the street at Starbucks, and I was noticing that there was a very somewhat attractive Caucasian white gal. You know, flirting and smiling and showing all the signs of attraction. You know, flipping her hair, crossing and crossing her legs. And for some reason, I was like, wow, this armored seashirt I'm wearing really must look great on my figure. And then I noticed that there was a very observant, very keen on the point African-American male behind her. And I realized what was going on. And that's when I said, wow. Talk about fucking feeling good about yourself and then crashing and burning. All right. I don't know why that's on my mind, but okay. Today, we got a great show for you today. But before we start, let me say hello to, how you doing over there, Chester? Hey, what's going on, man? Hey, you doing all right over there, my friend? Yeah, what's going on? No, not much, not much. Let's get into some topics here. But real quick, what we started, the set with, this is ironic, by the way. We started the set with Judas Priest, Angel of Retribution. That's off, no, Judas Rising, Judas Priest, Angel of Retribution. You got to excuse me. I'm not as eloquent as Lausanne. After that, we heard a track off the upcoming new Nails record, which is entitled, You Will Never Be One of Us. Oh, boy, I feel, I feel, I relate to that record. That track is Violence is Forever. Then we heard Black Cobra. With the track off their new record, Imperium Simulacra. That was obsolete. And then we ended that opening set with Megadeth, Holy Wars, The Punishment Due. That's off the Holy Wars record. The reason why we played that track was because, Chester, did you know that Nick Menza, ex-drummer of Megadeth, passed away? Yeah, I heard. See, do we have an image of Nick Menza there? Let's see. Let's see. Nick Menza. Nick Menza, 51 years of age, passed away last week. Reportedly, he was on stage here locally in Los Angeles, and he suffered a heart attack and he died. What does that tell you when you die at 51 years of age? What do you think, Chester? 51, I don't know. What does that say? What does that say? 51 years of age, right? I think he celebrated a lot in the 90s. You know, if you are having strokes, or you're having heart attacks at such an early age, 40 and 50, and you indulged with the, let's just say the devil's dandruff, it will come back and haunt you, man. It really will. And so, there you go. Nick Menza's dead. This is what was really sad for me. I don't know about you, Chester, but Morley Safer, the 60 Minutes reporter. Are you familiar with Morley Safer? I'm not, actually. Love Morley Safer. Let me just say this real quick. Here in the United States, I would say within, in the last 10 to 15 years, there has been, when it comes to journalism, the journalism field is no longer what it was. It's become comedic. It's become watered down. It's become somewhat, what an insult. I mean, if you really want to know what's going on in the United States, you have to look for outside sources of the media or underground press. But Morley Safer and the 60 Minutes crew, at least the OG 60 Minute crew, they really were, what I would say, top notch in journalism. And I really enjoyed Morley Safer's reports. And even the ones that were not dangerous, he really went out of his way to always bring very interesting fucking, you know, events to the news and to disclose what was going on. As a matter of fact, I believe we have a news segment of that, don't we, Chester? Morley Safer? Yeah, is that the track? Yeah, let's play that. This morning we're remembering a legend in the CBS family, Morley Safer, the newsman and longtime 60 Minutes correspondent died yesterday in New York. He was 84. Morley was first and foremost a brilliant writer, as his colleague Steve Kropp has reminded us. His career at CBS News spanned more than 50 years. 46 of them were at 60 Minutes, where he filed 990, 990, and 990 reports. Morley holds the record for the longest run in primetime network television. Now, for any of you who actually pays attention to the news, it's really sad to see these type of reporters and journalists just become almost extinct. Just look at what's going on today in the news, man. I mean, just so much chaos, so much disaster, so much fucking just bedlam. And yet, if you turn on the news, you're going to see a lot of people who are just like, turn on the local news or the international news. They're fixated on what? Fucking what? What, Chester? What fucking Marley Cyrus or whatever the fuck it is. You know, Marley Cyrus. Kardashians. Yeah, the Kardashians like fucking black cock fucking, I mean. Sex tapes. I mean, K-9, K-9 West. What's that fucker's name? K-9 West or whatever. Kanye West. Whatever. Fucking Kanye West, whatever. His fucking city ramblings. I mean, what happened to Woodward and Bernstein? What happened to that cutthroat fucking journalist? That would just go deep in the shit and bring it out so you could see it. And it would bring you an outrage. You know what's going on? The dominization of America. Okay. And when these type of reporters, you know, die. Anti-intellectualism. Right? I can't believe that you and I are more fucking articulate and intelligent than the modern day society, dude. Well, most news organizations these days seem to just go to Twitter. And then they're like, I'm going to go to the news. I'm going to go to the news. I'm going to go to the news. I'm going to go to the news. And that's about all the digging they do. Oh, what's on Twitter? And then they actually report that. There's no fact checking or anything like that anymore. Dude, not only that, but here, this is what really drives me fucking nuts is the fact that here in the United States, the whole world, I've mentioned this before numerous times, the whole world is horrified of what's going on. And that's what's happening. And that's what's happening. And that's what's happening. And that's what's happening. And that's what's happening. And that's what's happening. And that's what's happening. And that's what's happening. And that's what's happening. And that's what's happening right now in our country. Horrified. Okay. Again, I'm not bashing any of the candidates, but you know what? I'm going to say this. They all suck. They all fucking suck. If you want to vote for Trump, like, I'm, it looks more than likely that I'm going to seriously support Trump. But it's not because of what he stands for. It's because, you know what? I say, fuck it. If we're this stupid to really put a person like that in office, let's go down in flames. What do you think about that, Chester? Yeah, I agree. Right? Fuck it. Fuck Hillary. I'm tired of her fucking bullshit. I'm tired of her fucking conniving. What a cunt. I can't believe. First of all, there's no way that Bill Clinton fucks that bitch, right? Would you agree with that? Yeah. There's no way. No fucking way. Bernie Sanders was in town recently. Chester, there's an image of Bernie in Lincoln Park here in Northeast L.A. Lincoln Park. There you go. Look at that image right there. Bernie Sanders. Let me tell you something about Bernie. You know, everyone is going around on that whole Bernie bandwagon. And you know what? I wish that this guy really had some juice. I wish that this guy really had some fire and that there was a way to burn the system. But delusional people, disconnected people, there's no way this guy's going to win. I mean, Chester, I know you're a Bernie guy. How do you feel about this guy, you know, still in the fight? You know, I think what I can say about Bernie, and I agree with you, by the way. I don't think he has a... I wish it was different, Chester. But I mean, dude, I'd rather believe in Santa Claus or Jesus Christ. I think at the very least what his campaign has done is gotten some people to think about what's going on and how unfair and how unbalanced the wealth in this country is. There is no middle class anymore. No. No. And I think at the very least he's gotten... I want some people to start thinking about it and looking at it. But you know what? This is what brought... This is what really bothers me is the fact that, you know, the middle class has been under attack for the last 20 years. It all started with Reagan. And before you start fucking losing your patience, calm down. We'll get to some music in a bit. The point is, is that people are more fixated and they're more interested in the Bernie campaign, not because of the message, but because it's the cool thing to do. Man in... Man in... Man in... Man in... Man in... Man buns. It just drives me nuts. That's true. A bunch of little loudmouth bitches, you know, a bunch of these... No one really is looking at the serious issue of this country. And for me to be just staring and just looking at what's happening, the collapse of our empire is just really... It's inedible. It's inedible. And my mentality is, is you know what? Fuck it. Let me show you some images of the Bernie Sanders supporters. So he was in Lincoln Heights yesterday. Look at that. Look at the Lincoln Heights. Look at the Lincoln Heights campaign right there. What do you think about that, Chester? You think he has a chance? That's funny. Yeah. One of the things that I'd like to see change in this country is the fact that everyone just seems self-absorbed with themselves. You know, if you walk down the street, everyone's just staring at their iPhones. Everyone's just fucking completely detached. You're walking past mentally ill people. You're walking past the homelessness here in Los Angeles. You're walking past the homelessness here in Los Angeles. It's just completely fucking... The homeless situation is just exploding. Yet the city has no money for the homeless, but yet they have money to have a fucking tribute concert for fucking Prince. Last night, myself and my girlfriend walked up the street. We walked one block. We walked from 6th Street to the end of 5th Street. 12 people counted. 12 people asked me for change. That's just the people that's asking me for change. You're lucky that they're asking, by the way. And we counted 22 people that were just laying on the street. And this is in the most hipster-fied center of the new downtown Los Angeles renaissance. This is where the core of the hipsters and the money and the trust funders live. And that's on this street alone. Wow. And nobody... This was two blocks. And nobody really... They're invisible, right? They're like, no one really notices. There's no cops on the street. I don't understand how in downtown Los Angeles where all this shit is going on, I never see a beat cop just walking down the street. Check it. Never. The only time I see a cop, they're at LA Cafe getting burgers, and that's it. That's the only time I see cops. Wow. And you know what's really sad is all these individuals that are on the street, are multiplying every day. And it's not just substance abuse or alcohol victims. It's families. Families that can no longer afford to live in here in Los Angeles. All the rents are being increased. All these buildings are being transformed into these super sloths. And it's happening nationwide. It's happening worldwide. And guess what? No one gives a fuck. So there you go. Some food for thought. Chester, did you hear about this? In Fort Myers, Florida... By the way, I think we have an image of the high school there. South Fort Myers High School. It was reported that in the bathroom... Boy, I wish I was in high school again. In the bathroom, 25 boys, young adolescent males from high school, were training this bitch in the bathroom. Did you hear about that? I heard about it, yeah. You know what? You know what comes to mind? Why couldn't this happen when I was in high school from 1985 to 1988? Jesus. 25 boys. 25 boys gangbanging some chick in the bathroom. And they were suspended. Why are they being suspended? It wasn't like they raped the chick. She was down. By the way, I think we have an image of her vagina. Do you have an image up there of her vagina? Let's post that image of her roast beef vagina, man. Fucking 25. Look at that. There's her pussy right there, man. Right? Look at that. 25 boys fucking this bitch in the fucking bathroom, recording it. And what can you say? What can you say to that? What can you say to that? Only that, you know, like a bitter old fucker like me wishes he was back in school. Talk about great parenting. Right? Can you believe that? Great parenting. All right. Let's move it along here. This was reported last week as well. This really caught my attention. I don't know if you heard about this, but in Tustin, California, a terrier mix puppy by the name of Bubba. Do we have that image of the dog there, Chester? This cute little fucking terrier mix was found in a hotel room, of some 40 year old guy by the name of Joshua West, who was fucking gagging the fuck out on meth. And can you find that puppy there? What's that one called? It's probably called puppy, meth dog. There you go. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that innocent puppy right there. Okay. So this dog was found in the hotel with this 40 year old guy by the name of Joshua West. And this dog had meth, heroin, and nicotine in his system. Wow. Wow. Listen. I don't want to. That doesn't make any sense. Does that, is that like fucking secondhand meth smoke or? I mean, why would a meth head be given his dog? Doesn't he want to do his meth? I don't understand. Well, you know, some, they do say dogs are man's best friend. Don't you want to party with your best friend? I guess so. You're going to tie off your dog. I'm not laughing at the fact that this dog had drugs in his system. I'm just really fucking laughing. At the fact that the society that we're in today and that, uh, I, you know what? I don't even know what I was going to say about that. I find it horrifying that this poor innocent animal, uh, was subjected to, uh, you know, an environment where there was meth, heroin, and fucking cigarette smoke. What a trip, huh? Puppy chow? No. All right. In Alabama, take, take away that dog. That fucking poor dog. Put that image up again. Look at the eyes on this dog, dude. Doesn't he just look like? Where the hell? Save me. You know those, you know those animal, uh, uh, commercials that they have on, uh, on fucking, uh, uh, cable where they have the really sad music, right? Like the, the, you know, please contribute some money to, look at this. Isn't this the perfect fucking dog poster boy now for that? I would say so. All right. In Alabama, Anita Parker, 43 years of age. By the way, I'm mentioning these things because, uh, this is the norm in our society. Nowadays. Anyways, in, in Alabama, Anita Parker, 43 years of age. She was a woman who faked her pregnancy. Okay. She did it in order to convince her husband to move back into the home. And, uh, of course, what did she do, uh, to, uh, make it look like she had a miscarriage? She killed her fucking puppy. Okay. Gutted him and completely saturated the bed with blood. So it would look like she had like a fucking miscarriage. Wow. That's a sick bitch right there. That's fucked up. Right? Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Isn't that fucked up? Isn't that disturbing as fuck? And guess what? They're out there, gentlemen. So, uh, by all means, pay attention to, uh, who you're banging. All right. Today, we have a great show for you. We're going to have Bob Nalbadine. I believe I just butchered his name. Bob Nalbadine is, uh, a fellow music journalist. He also is a fellow broadcaster of Inside Metal. This young guy. Talk about, you know, we have. We have a lot in common. I can't wait to talk to him. Uh, he was at the forefront of the metal explosion here in Los Angeles. He got to see, uh, a lot of these bands, uh, right in their prime. And what I respect this gentleman for is the fact that he went out and did a documentary movie on the Los Angeles heavy metal scene. Now, if you listen to this show, you know that I vent, I fucking cry. I bitch. I complain how Los Angeles never gets their respect. It deserves when it comes to music. Okay. All you hear about is the glam rock invasion and fucking, you know, all that madness. But before all that, there was an incredible thriving heavy metal rock and roll scene. Some amazing fucking bands. And here we have Bob who, uh, has a series of documentary movies and he, uh, goes in depth and talks about that scene. And, and I think it's very educational. I saw the first movie, uh, last year sometime. And even I, you know, my fucking know it all ass was very, very educated. And, uh, there was a lot of things. And I didn't know from a certain zine. Cause I mean, you know, from 75 to 81, I was a fucking kid, but, uh, this guy really, uh, did a, an extensive research and, uh, he has, uh, some great documentaries coming out and he's going to be premiering. I think the new one, we're going to be talking to him, getting some info on that. Also, I did an interview over the weekend with Frank Novenick. Again, I butchered this guy's name of hate breed. Do you have an image of a hate breeder? Chester. I, uh, went to go, uh, chat with him recently. They played here in Los Angeles. Uh, they were on tour and, uh, I must say I really enjoyed, uh, there we go. I really enjoy chatting with Frank there and we have nice little, uh, interview. We're going to play there with that. Let's get the show started for all of you out there who are trying to remain sane. Okay. In a nation of insanity. Just remember one thing. If you stay silent, you feed the fucking mask. You feed the fucking mask. You feed the fucking mask. You feed the fucking mask. You feed the fucking mask. You feed the fucking mask. Okay. Speak out, start voicing some fucking, some fucking logic and some fucking, uh, some sane, some sane fucking, uh, expressions because, uh, worldwide we're all going nuts, especially here in the United States. Let's start the show. Chester, take it away. I'm Morley Safer. Those stories tonight on 60 Minutes. It first appeared that the Marines had been sniped at and that a few houses were made to pay. I'm Morley Safer. I'm Morley Safer. I'm Morley Safer. I'm Morley Safer. I'm Morley Safer. I'm Morley Safer. The sp sp sp sp Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I love my cross And I'm in debt Above these stairs We may reach our way inside While the world has left It don't break my stride Like a dog descending Told us I'll win Not one loss From the hand that kills Two transcendent days I'll be on my way Singing my final song In the light Behold So I press on Don't be condemned I take up my cross And get married then I follow this path guitar solo Not here. guitar solo Through trends and delays I'd be on my way Singing my final song River I'd be on guitar solo Till I press on guitar solo I'll be hunting down guitar solo I take up my cross guitar solo Death there again guitar solo guitar solo You want a tip, honey? I'll give you a tip. You put the condom on with your mouth and you stop acting like your anus is a national treasure. You're a fucking hooker, for Christ's sake. Fuck you. Whoa. Let me tell you something, honey. One day, one old bastard that you milked, he's gonna carve you up talking like that. Now, how would you like that? Jesus, I don't know. You think I'd come? If you could, maybe. You would. But I'm thinking no. Fuck you. Which is pretty much what I had in mind when she come up here. guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo! Guitar! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And now, here with an unlimited supply of misinformation is Mr. Noto. All right. What you just heard there was a nice little track that we're going to send out to Fort Myers High School. South Fort Myers High School. high school. That track there is entitled Horrors of Sodom. And that's by a band called Nocturnal Graves from Melbourne, Australia. Which coincidentally, they're playing tonight at the Five Star Bar here in downtown Los Angeles. So if you're in LA, you got nothing better to do. Go check out Nocturnal Graves at the Five Star Bar. And again, that track was Horrors of Sodom off the Satan's Cross record. Before that, we heard Pentagram. What a coincidence. They're playing a sold-out show tonight. Bobby Lee playing at Pentagram. Wow. Let me get this straight. Glenn Frey dies. Right? Glenn Frey is dead. What other fucking... The Megadeth drummer is dead, but Bobby Lee survives. Pentagram. We heard a track called Suffering. That was off the Curious Volume record. They're gonna be playing Thursday in Santa Ana at... What the fuck is the name of that club? Santa Ana Summer. Go check it out. Observatory? There you go. The Observatory. Thank you, Bob. And then we started off the set there with a band called Bellwitch. This is really sad news. Adrian Guerra, the percussionist of Bellwitch. Some extreme funeral dream there. He passed away. Wow. That's a bummer right there. Now, that'll really... That's really a tragic death. That was a track off their new record entitled In Fire One Garden of Blooming Ash. And that track was Judgment in Fire. Oh, that's off the Four Phantoms. Yes. Lost Johnny, I Am Not. Alright. Let's get to my guest here. First of all, let me just say this. There are a lot of individuals in the music business that for those who do not pick up a guitar or drums or a microphone, they become journalists. And let me tell you one thing about these journalists. A lot of them are full of shit. There are only a few who are true. Okay? Let me give you the definition of true. Individuals who go and really support live music and go see these bands, regardless of whether they become popular or not, they're just constantly out there for the love of music. And especially in the underground circuit where they feel that it's a travesty that this band or that band is all being fucking saturated, shoved down people's throats. And here's an amazing band that when they go see them, there's only like 20 people there, or if they're lucky. And they start doing their own things back in the day, like a fanzine. Now I guess it would be considered a webzine. Let me talk to you about my guest here. Bob, I'm gonna butcher your last name, by the way. You wanna help me out here? What is your last name? Jesus, I butchered the fuck out of that. Bob Nalbandian is what I would say one of the first generation of Los Angeles metal journalists. Because you were at the forefront of this. And let me just say this. From 75 to 1981, even though I knew that there was this thriving, very, very cutting-edge music scene, heavy metal music scene, that was a little bit before my time. I came in 81 on. I learned so much about your first movie, the Inside Metal. Is that correct? Is that the proper title there? Yeah, well, the series is actually called Inside Metal. The title of the first movie is The Pioneers of Elm. L.A. Hard Rock and Metal. Let me just say this sincerely and deeply humbling. Thank you for this. Because it's here I am thinking, you know what, I've been around for a long time, been fucking documenting the scene, doing the fucking... By the way, now these type of dudes get laid. Do you get laid now? Because I didn't get laid back in the day. Now these type of guys that they're on the webzines and they're all getting fucking all this pussy. Back in the day, I didn't get shit. But anyways, here I am thinking, okay, you know what? I've been around for over 30 years. I must know something. And then lo and behold, I go see your first movie. And we'll talk about the second one. But your first movie. And my God, you schooled the fuck out of me. In a positive way, though. I didn't walk out of there feeling like an asshole or nothing. By the way, I suffer from very low self-esteem. So thank you for not making me feel like an asshole. But what a great movie. It really depleted what I've been saying all along, but especially a genre, a dated genre that I was unaware of. An incredible movie talking about bands like Snow and fucking Van Halen and on and on and on. Now you have a second series to this documentary, correct? Correct. Talk to me a little bit about this. Well, this second one basically continues on where the pioneers of L.A. hard rock and metal left off. The second title is called The L.A. Metal Scene Explodes. And this is more you and you and my genre. This is from like 81, 82 up to 86. So we cut it off just, you know, right when the big glam era really started. So this basically is going to be a two-volume DVD like the first one, like the first movie. And let me tell you, that movie schooled myself, too. Really? Oh, yeah. I never made it out to the Starwood and those clubs, too. I did see bands like Snow and everything. I grew up in Orange County, so I saw a lot of these bands at the Woodstock, and I used to listen to the old local music. I used to listen to the old local music shows on the very early K&AC, the homegrown shows, and heard all these bands, Snow, they had an EP out. Let's go back to KBT with Lucifer LaRock, man. Let's do that. Remember that? Well, Lucifer LaRock, you remember that. That was from the Jim Ladd Metal Hour. Yes. That was a great thing, too, man. And I'm really glad to see not to get too off topic, but that Stu is back doing something similar on KLOS, which is really cool. Let me ask you this, because this is something that's always intrigued me since I've seen your film. And I'm assuming we're in that similar age bracket. By the way, I hope you don't have any of the issues that our age bracket has, you know, like the fucked up colon and, you know, fucking diabetes and cholesterol and all that. But anyways, the point is... I'm healthy. I don't give a shit. That shit don't bother me none. Let me ask you this. One of the things that I appreciated about your film and what you've done is the fact that it's been driving me nuts for over 30 years how New York, Florida, even Chicago, San Francisco, are highly recognized and documented as having these incredible music scenes, which they did. But when you think of Los Angeles, what do you think of? And listen, I know not to put you in any way, shape, or form... By the way, all comments expressed by Jimmy Caps are Jimmy Caps. Not to make you feel... But it drives me nuts when anything you hear about Los Angeles, you gotta see Bret Michaels and, like, all this Guns N' Roses shit. And by the way, I... Unlike you, I stand firmly in saying, I hated that shit then and I hate it now. But I like that you really exposed the history and the rich culture and the diversity of Los Angeles. Because even though I don't like that genre of music, it was still just another chapter in the long history of Los Angeles metal, which was groundbreaking and ahead of its time. And that was film number one. And... And... And... And... And... And... And... And... Well, I got to say, you hit it on the head because that's exactly what I was going for. I'm not as stupid as I look, by the way. Yeah, I could see that. No, I follow your show. I know you're the real deal, Jimmy. Oh, thank you. And, well, as far as, look at you. You're drinking beer. I'm drinking water. See, that just shows how. Yeah, but I'm fat, so it's all right. That is what I am. The second movie is, I still use that same platform. And, again, that's kind of why I cut this off at 86. And I was never a big glam guy. And no disrespect, whatever. I know there's a lot of fans of, you know, the Poisons, the L.A. Guns, the Florence, and the Guns N' Roses. But that's been covered to death. To death. To death. I'm an underground guy, kind of like you. And even though, you know, of course, the bands that we covered, Rat and Black and Blue and all these bands, they were, you know, huge MTV bands. But before that, they were cutting edge, Rob. Bob, I'm sorry. They were cutting edge, Bob. When they started playing out, I remember those Ghazari days. I remember those Perkin Palace, Gina Zapparilla days. They were cutting edge at that time. Absolutely. And that's what we try to cover is when these bands first started. It was before the MTV machine and all that. So bands were, you know, I was really heavily into the new wave of British heavy metal. You know, when 79, 80, when the first Maiden album, you know, and even the first Def Leppard album. Yes. That first album. That was metal. Amazing. Came out. All those bands, Tigers of Pantang and Angel Witch, Diamond Head, all that shit I was getting all into. And, you know, I was going out and seeing local bands. And some of these bands, you know, Rat were pretty heavy back then. Steeler with Ron Keel. Of course, Armored Saint. I love the March of the Saint shirt you're wearing. Thank you. And, of course, Metallica. We cover Lars. Yes, they were an L.A. band at the time. They did a significant amount of shows in L.A., including their second show opening for Saxon at the Whiskey Two Nights. So I cover all that era. We cover some of the other bands that weren't, that never made it, but were huge in L.A. from that era. You know, Warrior, Leatherwolf, you know, Racer X, you know, Lizzy Borden, all these different bands that weren't a part of that real glam machine. You know, London, Hellion, Bitch, you know. Thank you for that. All that stuff. Yeah. I mean, so, you know, I'm thinking, man, you know, these bands were huge back then. These bands were the same bands, you know. I mean, they were the same bands. You know, they were the same bands. You know, the Troubadour, the Roxy, even the Country Club, Malice, another band. We cover all that stuff because a lot of these, the younger generation don't remember these bands. I mean, people that go back are, you know, we remember hearing them on KMET, the Mighty Metal Hour, seeing the Heavy Metal Nights at the Country Club. And it seems like that has just been forgotten, a lot of these bands. And so, you know, me growing up in L.A., actually Orange County, but I used to go up to L.A. every other weekend to see Armored Saint or whoever at the Country Club, the Troubadour. And, you know, that was a huge part of my life, you know. And when I was, you know, sending tapes back and forth, collecting, you know, rare demos of new wave of British heavy metal, all my pen pals in England and Europe and all that, they wanted the latest, you know, of course, Metallica and Slayer. But they all wanted, you know, even before that, you know, whatever was hot, Rat, Steeler, whatever they were reading and, you know, Slagle's new heavy metal review or what I was doing in the Headbanger. You know, and all this other stuff. So it was a really, really cool scene. And it was something that, you know, when I got the opportunity to do this L.A. metal documentary, you know, with Joe Floyd, my good buddy, who was the guitar player in Warrior, one of the greatest L.A. bands, I think, that has been around one of the most unsung L.A. metal bands of the 80s. You know, when I had this opportunity, I said, you know what? I presented the way I wanted to do it. And I said, this is how. I want to do it. He agreed. Warren Croyle, the executive editor, our executive producer, I should say, was all into the idea. And I said, you know, let's, you know, the L.A. glam shit's been covered to death. If I'm going to do an L.A. Let's do the real L.A. Let's do the real L.A. Yeah. The beginning. And to do that, you know, again, going back to the first movie, the pioneers of L.A. hard rock and metal. That was such an important era because that's where it started. All these bands, you know, the bands a la carte, Smile. You know, Snow. Even though a lot of them weren't considered heavy metal. You know, of course, Quiet Riot with Randy Rhoades. You know, Greg Leon Invasion. They were playing alongside Van Halen. Cutting edge. Yeah. Absolutely. Exciter with George Lynch. You know, Dokken had a band called Airborne. Steve Plunkett from Autograph had a band called Wolfgang. That were huge. All these bands were like major bands that inspired a lot of the, you know, younger bands. You know. I know. You know, Lars talks about going to the Starwood all the time. Checking out the scene. And, you know, all these, you know, Armored Saint will tell you. They, you know, started out going to Pookie's seeing all these bands. Snow and Smile and a la carte. And, you know, on the local scene. And that really inspired what became the, you know, L.A. heavy metal scene that we all know. So, again, I said, you know, let's go back to 75. You know, the Van Halen era. And even going back, you know, Smile. You know, bands like Angel. Legs Diamond. As well, an L.A. band. And, you know, Angel, obviously, from Washington, D.C. But they moved to L.A. in 1975. A lot of people don't know that. They did. Yeah. Big part, you know, of that L.A., you know, 70s glam. I think they really were the first glam hair metal band of L.A., you know. I mean, you have bands like Sweet and other stuff in England. But, really, they were the ones that really brought it to L.A. Before the hair metal got way out of control. So, I wanted to expose these great bands, you know. Because I was so young at that time. I wasn't. I wasn't able to really hit the star wood. But I did see a lot of these bands, you know, like I said, in Orange County and stuff. You know, when I was 15, 16 years old. And it just blew my mind, man. And it was like, man, you know, this is a story that needs to be told. And so, I'm continuing on with this. And, like I said, we cut this one off at 86. And we've got everyone. We've got over 70 interviews in this, Jimmy. Who's in this new series? Oh, man. I mean, you know, I don't want to hold. I understand. I understand. But just, you know, top of your head. Top of your head. God, top of the head. You know, Armored Saint, of course. Of course. You know. One of the greatest bands of Los Angeles. Oh, absolutely. And El Sereno, by the way. Even though maybe now they're comfortable saying it. But back in the day, they weren't. But anyways, Armored Saint. One of the greatest bands ever. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, we got Talar from Metallica in this. We've got, as I said, Lizzie Borden, Bitch, Hellion, London, Leatherwolf, Racer X. I'm going to start forgetting bands. I'm going to start forgetting bands. Dallas. Fantastic. Yeah. Who else we got? You know, we got a few other female artists. Anne Boleyn from Hellion. Ahead of their time. Yeah. And then, you know, people like Gina Zamparelli. We got Malcolm Dole. Oh, boy. She's still beautiful after all these decades. My God. She's amazing. And she has helped out so immensely on this. I got to give props to Gina. You know what? Let's spend one couple of seconds and mention this. I would say like 82. And on. I might be wrong with the timeline. You got to forgive me. But Gina Zamparelli at the time was really doing DIY amazing metal shows of some of the top notch metal of that era who became mainstream global successes. Armored Saint, Wasp, Steeler. Yeah. You know, I don't know why Sin gets mentioned all the time. But all right. Sin and, you know, Malice, all that. You know, we go on and on and on. Started. And she was a female. Not to focus on that because it is 2016. But, you know, I don't know. I don't know if she's supporting Hillary or whatever. At that time, man, metal was alpha male, dude. Absolutely. Absolutely. Boy, does she have the respect at that time, too. Oh, man. She. Well, you know, she had she had her hands on Perkins Palace, which was the premier venue. That was a step above the country club. And, you know, Pasadena was such a metal place. And, you know, she did all those shows. And speaking of that, I can't even believe I forgot to mention Wasp. We got Randy Piper and Chris Holmes. We got. Wow. You got Chris Holmes. Really? Of course, Ron Keogh. We got Steven Piercy. Nice. It was great. Carlos Cavazos from Quiet Riot and Snow. And so we've got everyone. I could go on forever, my brain. But we've got all those bands. Jack Russell from Great White. Fantastic. Played the Perkins Palace. And that was like the big venue before they went on to superstardom. I mean, I remember seeing so many great shows. The Wasp, Armored Saint and Rat Show. Then the Armored Saint. Malice and what was it? Armored Saint, Malice and Odin, I think it was. So many killer shows that were there. Great White, Stormer, Steeler. She bought them all. Would you agree, though, that at that time, you know, this is what's always hard to really describe to people that weren't in Los Angeles that time. This is before, as we mentioned, as we discussed, the whole, you know, MTV video, mass PR. And that was a magazine era. At that time, it was all DIY, you know, underground fanzines, underground magazines, some local shows, if lucky, on the terrestrial radio here locally. But at that time, that scene was so thriving and so diverse and so eclectic that every night you can go to a Troubadour, to a Perkins Palace, to a country club and see such different metal. And one of the things that they all had in common, regardless of what band you were seeing, it was cutting edge. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. In Los Angeles. Yeah. Well, back then, you know, it's, I mean, it's funny to, you know, when you talk to a younger generation and it's funny because we're talking, you know, it seems like yesterday, but we're talking over 30 years ago here. I know. So that was a long time. So a lot of people don't realize back then there was nothing. You didn't have really MTV. You didn't have computers. You didn't have any. You went out to go to shows. And, you know, I lived in Huntington Beach, but even in Huntington, I could go out to the Woodstock. And see Slayer. And then next door, you would have like Rat or, you know, Black and Blue or Steeler playing Radio City next door. And then the Concert Factory would have something. So I didn't even have to leave, you know, that area. You know, I would just go down to the beach and there would be, you know, you just hang out at the beach at 11 in the morning. Oh, fuck. Leatherwolf is doing a backyard party. You go to the backyard party. Then we're going to find out, you know, Robin Trower is playing at the country. I mean, at the Golden Bear right on PCH. Wow, you're going way back. Oh, yeah. I mean, this was, you know, you would just hang out. And within this five-mile radius, I just got just sources of great metal right there. You didn't have to even go to L.A. But, shit, going to L.A. and Hollywood at the time. I mean, you had the Troubadour. You had, you know, the whiskey when it reopened. Of course, the Roxy. But the Troubadour was kind of the metal place. And then you had Madame Wong's and all these other places. And then, of course, the Country Club. And then, of course, you had the Pasadena Club. So there was always something going on and something great going on. And, you know, a band could play, you know, Pasadena. And then the next week, play Orange County. Then the next week, play down in the South Bay. And they would pack out every place because, you know, and it would be a different crowd every place. But the one thing that was incredible about that back at that era was the fact that there was always an audience and they were hungry. Let me ask you this, though. Because this is one of the things. There are a lot of good and bad things for me. By the way, psychologically, I have a lot of problems. And this has a lot to do with that era. Everybody at that time, that was metal. Because metal was sexy then. Even if you were playing heavy metal, it was sexy then. And if you were affiliated with heavy metal, you were getting some of that. This is before the fucking glam rock fucking chlamydia explosion. You were getting laid. I didn't get any of that, man. I didn't get any. The only thing that I have is just the cherished memories of these great shows. But let me ask you this. At that time, some of these bands were ahead of their time, cutting edge. But they had that heavy metal attitude. 30-something years later, being that, you know, I'm not going to compare myself to you, Bob. Because you are a real deal journalist. And I'm just some schmuck. You are too, man. But the point is this. By the way, I was a fanzine writer. If you've read my early stuff, I saw the atrocious writing. I saw the heavy metal, the heavy metal style, and all that. You wouldn't call me a journalist. You did the whiteout and the typewriter thing too? I put it onto paper, you know. The point is, is this is what's interesting for me. Some of these artists that righteously so should be respected and appreciated, they still have that 80s fucking rock star attitude. Did you encounter any of that when you were doing your interviews? Not at all. Good. Not at all. Everybody was so, you know, at first there was some skepticism because. Tell me Ron Keogh didn't give you a little attitude, man. No, not at all. He wasn't living that whole, you know, lay down the law shit. In fact, we went to the whiskey. We interviewed him. We interviewed Jamie St. James that night. He was hanging out. He goes, I would love to be a part of it. Ron is such a humble guy now. And, you know, I've heard stories about back in. He better be. It's 2016. Exactly. He was great. He even interviewed Rick Fox there too. Oh, fuck. We interviewed the old Mackie Lyon. We interviewed everyone, dude. I mean. And no attitude. No, no, no one had an attitude. I mean, there were a couple of people that didn't want to be interviewed from whatever reason or never got back to us. But, you know, the funny thing is, is once we started getting it going, once you put the trailers out, people, you know, started hitting us up. Hey, I want to be in this movie. Of course. Of course. So the sound was a real deal when we first started doing it. Of course, you know, there's a million people said, hey, I'm going to do this documentary. Let's do this. But, you know, I had Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. Joe Floyd. again, a Fighting for the Earth album, along with like Armored Saint. Warrior were one of those bands in Malice that just were so fucking great. But just, you know, they weren't glam and they weren't thrash metal. They just never got the do they respected. But he was always very respected as a guitarist, as a producer. So having him behind was great. He knew a lot of these bands and they knew him. A lot of these bands, I interviewed back from the Headbanger. I mean, talking about, you know, Sound Barrier, they're in this. Wow. You know, Ron Keel, all those guys, Malice. I interviewed those Wasps. I interviewed them all back in the Headbanger. Warlord, all those bands back then. So I was doing that back when I was 17, 18. A lot of these guys remember me, including Ron Keel. He goes, dude, I remember the Headbangers. So, you know, I kind of had that rapport with these bands. A lot of these people remembered me from back then. So, you know, no, I mean, no attitude at all. It was, Don Dokken was fantastic. Oof. How'd you deal with that guy? He was hilarious. Really? He wouldn't shut up. We were talking for like two hours. He kept going on and on and on. He was great. Yeah. So we got everyone. Again, when, you know, people like, oh, Dokken, this and that. You know, when they started out and with George Lynch, you know, Paris is Burning, which actually was an old Exciter song, but some of those early songs were real heavy. And it wasn't, you know, we got people like, even like Gene Hoagland and people like that in there. Wow. Oh, Gene's in there? Incredible. Gene used to go to all these clubs when he was 14. He knew all these bands. He hung around with Dokken, Dante Fox, who later became Great White. Nice. At the Woodstock. And he knew, you know, he was saying the same thing. Before, you know, you didn't have genres. There was no such thing as like speed metal or thrash metal. Exactly. It was just all rock and roll. So everyone kind of went out, you know, everywhere, you know. And, you know, I remember the days, you know, when Lars was first starting Metallica and James was in a band called Leather Charm. And, you know, Mustaine was in Panic. They were all just local rock bands, you know, that were just playing the circuit. And Slayer were a cover band. I used to see these bands at the Woodstock, you know, back in the day. So it was just all, you know, they called it, I love the term, high energy rock and roll. What do you play? It wasn't like- High energy rock and roll. It wasn't heavy metal or we play rock. We play high energy rock and roll. You would get the business card, you know. You know, so-and-so band, high energy rock and roll. But- I'm going to bring back that term. I love that. I think we should- Yeah, yeah. I think I agree with it too. One of the things that I really like about your film, and I'm looking forward to this, the second version of this film, is the fact that even if you didn't grow up in Los Angeles, and if you are a hard rock, rock and roll, heavy metal, on and on and on and on, whatever the fuck these genres are, you would appreciate these type of documentaries because it takes you back in time to an era of when music was new, refreshed, and dangerous. Would you agree with that, Bob? Absolutely. Absolutely. And the cool thing about this, because I love documentaries, not even just rock documentaries, but that's all I watch on Netflix because I think it's the only thing interesting now with all this bullshit reality TV crap out there. Good documentaries, you know, are fantastic. And what's really cool about this is what's different between this and, say, like Decline of Western Civilization, The Metal Years, that was filmed in, you know, 87, or whatever, during the prime of the decadence of L.A. Right. So bands were all wasted, goofy, acting like rock stars. Here, we interview them 30 years later, so they kind of reflect on that. Everyone's matured. I mean, we all did crazy shit. They better. So they've matured. They've humbled quite a bit. Right? Humbled is the key. Absolutely. And that's what you get with this movie. You just kind of get a real honest look at what the scene was. You know, you know, what was the airframe of mind back then, what was going on. And it's really interesting, I think. And I've learned so much just talking to these guys about, you know, what, you know, you know, just reflecting back on that time and just the crazy shit that happened and the fact that they're still together. They're living, the fact that they lived through it, Bob, and they survived. I mean, could you imagine all that pussy they were getting and all those drugs and not having AIDS or fucking a stroke or whatever? And money. That's when the record country, that's when the record industry had money and was throwing it at these guys. Well, I was laughing at the beginning of your show. You're talking about Bobby Liebling, still alive. Still alive, dude. Not that guy is still out there. Oh, he's heavy, all right. But yeah, no, it is crazy. It was, it was a crazy time. And, you know, and it was a sign of the times. It was, you know, everyone, you know, was doing it. I think, you know, we interviewed Jeff Duncan and he kind of mentioned about that. He said, hey, you know, I'm not embarrassed about the, you know, decline. He says that was just, it was just a part of what we did back then. That was just a sign of the times, you know, kind of thing. So, but, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's a really educational, I think, documentary. Even if you're not into the music scene, it's really a cultural thing, you know, just like the first movie was. It really showed what the culture of rock and roll really meant. You know, the backyard parties, the do-it-yourself attitude and, you know, just the, you know, the whole decadence of the party and, and all that. This, this is, this is where it started. This was as true and as real and as underground. And these bands, I mean, it's funny because people talk about, you know, that whole 80s scene as corporate rock. I look at the 90s shit as corporate rock. I agree with you. The Pearl Jams, the, you know, Korn, Rage Against the Machine. That's when the record companies were throwing millions of dollars into these bands and it was a bit, but everyone thinks that's underground. The 80s scene, these bands struggled for like 10 years. You know, the, you know, the Don Dawkins, the Great Whites, all these bands were playing the clubs for years before they made it. So, you know, these bands really were truly underground. The way they started, the way it was all flyering, you know, you didn't have computers then. Exactly. You know, you busted your ass. You, you humped your gear. You played backyard parties every other night playing shows, you know. I mean, you know, bands like Shark Island, they were around since the mid 70s. All these bands, you know, that we interviewed started from back in the day. But people just think, oh, they're just, you know, they kind of came out in the midst of the whole 80s. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. There's this, you know, I used to go see, you know, Shark Island when they were the Sharks all the time. They were a Guzzari's house band. Every single night they played, they played Friday, Saturday night at Guzzari's. Every time I went to see them, because they were a fantastic live band. In the audience was Axl Rose and Bret Michaels. Wow. Axl Rose studied every move. And then when Guns N' Roses came out, it's like, what the fuck, this guy's stealing Richard Black. Richard Black had been doing it since the 70s. And if you've seen him on stage back in the day, you would, just go, fuck, this guy's unbelievable. And then, of course, their album comes out after Guns N' Roses. So, you know, everyone's like, oh, this guy's just an Axl Rose wannabe, you know? So, you know, you know, so I want to- The many injustices of the fucking LA music scene, man. So this really gives these artists to tell the chance, to tell the story of how it really is, not what the media or MTV kind of, you know, fabricated, so to speak, about the scene. It wasn't all, you know, all these other bands, you know, the, the, you know, the Poisons, all these bands, they're not from LA. They all came elsewhere. Yeah, they all came here. After the explosion, you know, after they saw bands like Rat and Motley Crue, and Motley Crue's really the only artist we, band that we didn't get, anyone from Motley Crue. But, you know, all that stuff, you know, the Poisons, they weren't really a part of the LA scene. You know, they came out afterward. These were all the bands that came out from everywhere else just to, you know, be a part, you know, be a part of the LA scene. And you know what? They came out here and they succeeded. But one of the things that I like about your documentary is- And I do admire them for that. I will say about Poison, they did, or we got, and I never liked that band, but they did bust their ass. They worked very, very hard to get where they're at. And for a band that's, I think, got very little talent, they did it. So, yeah. Hey, goes to show you. One of the things that I like about your documentary, let me mention this real quick. So the Los Angeles screening for the second Inside Medal, titled LA Metal Scene Explodes, will take place Thursday, June 2nd in Hollywood, California at the Attic, formerly Sin Space. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. And then Monday, June 6th at the Regency Theater, Valley Plaza 6 in North Hollywood, right? Yes. I'm glad you bring that up because we do have tickets available for the North Hollywood screening, the June 6th. It's gonna be the big theater there. It's the theater, right? That old school theater. Nice. Old school metal vibe, man. That's the one. That's the one on Victory and Laurel Canyon there, right off the freeway of Victory, right off the 170 freeway there. And come down $15 and this will be an exclusive. We're only doing two. Last time we did a full theater run, a nationwide theater run in select theaters. And it was a pain in the ass. It was a lot of work. Was it really? Yeah, it was just, I mean, you know, it's funny, hitting the theaters is a whole different thing. You know, the movie business, and it is so, you know, it's funny, the theaters that promoted it, it did great. But most of the theaters, they weren't even putting up the posters. It wasn't on the marquee. It's like, you know, so, you know, they had their blockbusters to deal with or whatever. So it just wasn't done right. But this time we're just gonna do a couple private screenings. Although this Monday, June 6th, we're opening up to the public. So anyone out there wanna come out, the showtime is 7 p.m. I suggest you get there at 6 p.m. Again, we're gonna do a lot of things. And I don't know, I don't have the actual address in front of me. It's a small street name, but it's on the corner of Victory and Laurel Canyon, right off the 170 Freeway and Victory Boulevard. It's the Regency Valley 6, Theater North Hollywood. Let me just say this. When I went to go see your movie at the New Beverly Theater, which is, I believe, still Quentin Tarantino's theater, one of the things that I enjoyed about your documentary, as I mentioned before, was the fact that it was focusing on an era that I was unaware of. And so I had the excitement, like a 14, 15 year old going to a record store and finding new albums that you never heard of. It was exciting watching your film, seeing these artists that ended up branching into these other bands, which became mainstream. It was very educational. But one of the things that was very, very enjoyable for me was sitting next to Don Dokken going, wow, I'm fucking sexier than this fucking guy, regardless of what his bank statements say. And I was like, what an audience you had there. I mean, you know what? I felt like a 15 year old kid. I fell out of place like a motherfucker. But again, not to focus on me, because I tend to do that too much. Make sure you go see these two shows here in Los Angeles. Again, let me mention this again. The second Inside Metal titled, Alley Metal Scene Explodes, will take place Thursday, June 2nd, in Hollywood, California, at the Attic, formerly Synth Space, and Monday, June 6th, at the Regency Theater, Valley Park. And the third, the fourth, the fourth, and the fifth, are taking place at the Rockwell Plaza 6 in North Hollywood. For those of you that are into any form of metal, because nowadays, Bob, this drives me nuts. Everybody tries to be so classical. I'm in a block battle, and I'm in a death battle. And listen, if you're into fucking heavy music, it's just fucking heavy music. Okay? Give me a break. Amen. The point is, is go see these documentaries and really feel enriched, whether you grew up here in Los Angeles, Bob, it looks like New York here now. But anyways, the point is, is be enriched with the culture and the history of Los Angeles and know your history, how important Los Angeles has been to all forms of music that ended up going worldwide. And for once, thank you, Bob, for taking it upon yourself to putting the flag in Los Angeles and really bringing attention and bringing the education and letting people know that Los Angeles has had and still has a very thriving underground music scene. But especially at that point in time before the glam rock explosion, because it drives me nuts when you ever see Los Angeles. It's all about 1986 and on. Great music before that. Great music after that. Thank you for doing that. Well, you're welcome. You're welcome, Jimmy. I appreciate you giving me this opportunity. And, you know, you're definitely old school. And I really appreciate it. I'm way too old school. You know, you know why I can't. It's something to be proud of, dude. And I want to get back to what you were saying about the audience there. I don't want to say about the guest list, but if you come out to the shows, the June 2nd show is pretty much sold out. So we're getting the public to the June 6th show. OK. The Monday night. And believe me, there will be a lot of the stars in the film in the audience. So I'm not going to say who or what, but you'll recognize a lot of the. The old school 80s rock stars there. So definitely for 15 bucks, man, come on out. We'll have tickets at the door. Definitely get there early. It'll be coming out on DVD on June 10th. Oh, nice. It's going to be a two DVD vault set again, like the Pioneers. And by the way, the first movie is available. You could get it on Amazon. Pioneers of L.A. Hard Rock and Metal. It's a two DVD set. There's part one and part two. We're doing the same with this movie. So part one. Part one will be out on DVD of L.A. Metal Scene Explodes on June 10th. And part two will be out on October. I'm sorry, August 12th. But we will be screening both at the theater. Nice. Nice. And I would strongly recommend that you pick up part one because, again, what a what a very enlightening and enriching history that you focused on there. And, you know, you always hear Los Angeles and you hear Van Halen. But again, I enjoyed. I enjoyed being educated. I didn't know about Snow and I didn't know about these other fucking bands that were around at that time. And, you know, that Joey Vera played with Tommy Lee in a band. I didn't even know that. People. There's a lot of stuff that people like. Wow. You know, people that knew all about metal. And they're like, I never knew this, that he was in this band. They played in a band together. Yeah. Incredible. But this is what I like about this second version that you have. And this is another thing I want to mention. You mentioned Gina Zapparelli. God, I hope I don't butcher her name. Amber. Zapparelli. There you go. You also mentioned ahead of their time, female fronted heavy metal bands that were really cutting edge, really cutting edge. And really at that time, dealing with this wave of alpha male heavy metal like Betsy Bitch, who, by the way, till this day looks fucking amazing. And Anne Boleyn and Hallie Ann. And I don't know if you mentioned like Leather Wolf or any of the Leather Angel. But wow. I remember at that time they were my adolescent queens. And, you know, I'll keep this interview professional. But you know where I'm going with that, right? I hear you. You know, till this day when I see Betsy, I still get a chubby. But anyways, incredible. She'll be there. And here's the deal. You know, you hear now of Doro and all these other female fronted heavy metal artists. But till this day, ahead of their time, ahead of their time. And in some cases, they don't get the respect they deserve. Would you agree with that? Yeah, well, absolutely. Especially with someone like Bitch doing the whole S&M thing. Head of her time, man. Early 80s. Yeah. I mean, no one was going that extreme. I mean, you had the male bands, you know, Wasp and doing all that. You know, having the chick, you know, topless chicks and stuff. But a female coming out doing that. Now, that was definitely, you know, way ahead of its time. Yeah, I agree. I mean, a lot of those bands. You know, we didn't get a Leather Angel. We got Precious Metal. And, of course, Hellion. And, you know, like I said, Gina talks about from the... perspective of being a promoter. And, you know, we got people like Kevin Estrada. Brian Slagle is in the movie. Nice. John Cornerins, John Sutherland. You know, a lot of different people. Not just the artists, but a lot of people. Like I said, Malcolm Dome. So, you know, you get the perspective. All different perspectives. And, Jimmy, you're going to love the third movie because it's entitled Rise of L.A. Thrash Metal. And that will be coming out, hopefully, before the end of the year. We're going to... We did all these movies together, all the interviews. Like two, three years ago. So, we've had them all done. We've just... This one, we've been working with this pro editor that's been very, very busy. So, it literally took him a year to edit this because he's had so many other projects. So, that's what kind of delayed. But we do plan on getting the third title, as I said, Rise of L.A. Thrash Metal, out before the end of the year. So, you'll be definitely hearing about that as well. How can people keep in touch with what's going on with this amazing series? How can they find out when these movies are coming out? And so forth? Well, my partner, Carl Alvarez, who I didn't mention earlier, he's been definitely the one that's been guiding this whole thing. And he's got a Facebook page. He's kind of taken over after Joe. I got to say, Joe Floyd, got to give him props. He's got his own guitar company coming out. So, definitely check that out. Nice. Carl, my partner, Carl Alvarez, he's got the Inside Metal Facebook page. I believe it's under Inside L.A. Metal Movie Documentary. Okay. Okay. I'll keep you totally up to date on everything going on. Again, Inside L.A. Metal Movie Documentary on Facebook and also on Twitter. And he posts stuff up daily of really cool photos and different stuff. And he's been a godsend for me in this movie. He's really helped out. And like I said, he's guided me through this whole movie. The guy's a genius. He's old school metal. And he's been my right-hand man from the get-go on this. So, definitely got to give props to Carl Alvarez. Fantastic, man. For all of you that are listening to this, go check out Bob's site there. Inside Metal L.A.? Is that how? Inside L.A. Metal. Because that's what it was originally going to be called. So, we just kept that Facebook page. Inside L.A. Metal-Movie Documentary. If you just go Inside L.A. Metal, it'll pop up. Amazing. Go and really discover the history of the real L.A. Metal scene. And again, educate and enrich yourself with this amazing history. So many incredible bands that were cutting edge ahead of their time that in some cases, some of them became global successes. But the ones that didn't still ahead of their time that I still crank till this day, like the Savage Graces and Ballas and onward and onward. Final question for you, Bob. And this is more of a personal one. Do you still have a lot of your vinyl and your demos? No. And I wish I did. Oh, you're one of those guys, huh? You know, I moved around so much. Does it drive you nuts with a lot of that shit you're going for now? Oh, fuck, dude. The vinyl I had, I had all the new wave of British heavy metal singles, the neat records, heavy metal records. I'm hearing they're going for three, four hundred bucks a single now. I'm like, I sold a whole lot to a collector back in the 90s. Because, you know, it was just, you know, bad. You had to pay the rent, man. I had CDs. I was moving around. I had them all in my mom's closet. She was going to throw it away. She was so fed up. She goes, get rid of this. So there was a collector out there who's hit up a lot of people. And he bought up. He had one of the biggest metal collections. And he bought mine up. So, you know, I thought it was a fair deal. This is way before eBay and all that stuff. Oh, yeah. You know, yeah, I had some great stuff. But you know what? I don't regret it. I mean, I move around so much. A vinyl is such a bitch to carry around. And, you know, nowadays, everything, you know, I mean, there is a convenience about MP3s. Although, I would easily go back to the old vinyl. If I, you know, in a second, I'd go back to 8-tracks in a second. You kind of miss that era. But as far as convenience, it really is, you know, it is good to have everything at your fingertips. Well, bottom line is, is even though you don't have that collection no more, the fact is, is that you lived it and it's up here. And you're sharing it with not only old bitter fuckers like myself, but also to a whole new generation. A whole new generation, Bob, of metal fans that they think they know it. Oh. And, you know, I love the fact we had, I had so many people come out to those screenings and have since seen the DVDs for Pioneers of LA Hard Rock and Metal, which is available on Amazon. There you go. And Amazon Prime, by the way. And iTunes. And it should be going on on AXS TV real soon, by the way. Nice. Yeah. So that's a really good thing. And we should get some other stuff going on there. But, you know, people, a lot of the younger generation had watched it. And I got so. So much feedback from, I mean, from people 18 to their early 20s that, you know, you know, they go back on YouTube and all this stuff. We're trying to, you know, know everything they know about 80s metal. Right. Blown away, you know. And I talked to some of the artists I interviewed and they're saying people that have seen the movie, all these young kids are hitting me up on Facebook asking about this. You know, where could I get this record? Where could, you know, so it's a good thing, man. It educates people. And I think. I think a lot of the younger generation, you know, there's a lot of kids out there that just like, fuck, man, I wish I was 30 years younger to have seen and been involved in that scene. Oh, they're out there. Right. That's why this whole resurgence of metal and, you know, this whole thing that's going on now. That's why a lot of these old fuckers are coming back trying to make some of that money, man. You know what I mean? They're all out there. And God bless them, man. You know what I mean? One of the things that I want to thank you for, and I mentioned this before, Bob, is just really taking it upon yourself. And listen, let's keep it real. None of us are. We're wealthy. You know what I mean? Keep taking it upon yourself to really set the record straight about Los Angeles metal and giving a lot of these artists that some righteously deserved and some that, you know, really did not get any attention and they deserved it. And thank you for taking us all on this trip to back in time when metal was metal and it was from the heart and it was from the soul before the big money came in. Absolutely. Wow. And thank you for also showing us what happens when you, you know, you spend 20 years smoking, snorting, fucking and drinking because some of these artists, they look horrible. I feel like Brad Pitt, dude. I feel great about myself. Some of these guys are well into their 60s. Some of them look good and some of them, Jesus, they look like they got a foot or a grave, man. But anyway. Well, on this one, I think the editors got a little bit better filtering. Some of the camera work. So, yeah, that wasn't me. I mean, you know, speaking of, you know, not, you know, none of us are wealthy. We did this on a very, very low budget. And we wanted to get that kind of 70s underground feel. Yeah, man. You know, kind of guerrilla kind of, you know, camera work and stuff. But I think it was a little bit too much. Some of the close ups Joe did. But I think, you know, we tried filling in as much as we could with. I mean, the good thing about this. This video since we got or this title, I should say, we got a lot more film footage of concert footage. Good. You could use because, you know, back in the day was before, you know, when, you know, the other stuff was in the 70s. There wasn't any of this video back then. So we had some actual film footage of snow and smile and a couple of clips we were able to use. But we didn't have a whole lot. But, you know, this we've got a lot more. So. All right, man. Well, listen, Bob, I want to thank you for taking the time to be on the show. Tell us about your incredible documentary series. Again, make sure you get out here in Los Angeles. Let me mention these dates and let me stand corrected. So I believe Thursday the 2nd is sold out in Hollywood. Pretty much. OK. You might get lucky if you want to email me or just hit me up on Facebook. Just look me up. That's your task. I could maybe if you pay for it in advance, you could probably get some tickets. But it will definitely sell out the June 2nd. OK. Monday, June 6th at the Regency. Theaters Valley Plaza 6 in North Hollywood. Make sure you get out there and check out this incredible documentary. Buy your tickets ahead of time. And by all means, if you see your favorite rock star there, don't don't harass them. Don't fucking bother them. Let them eat his fucking popcorn and jujubes in peace. Right. And stay away from Betsy because Jesus. Jimmy's girl. Yeah, that's my girl. And listen, don't get a restraining order. Leave her alone. All right. There you go. So 7 p.m. is showtime. But get down there early. And if you want to get advanced tickets, you can. You can hit me up on Facebook. Bob Nelbanian, Los Angeles. You know, go to the Inside Metal page, as I mentioned, on Facebook. And, you know, that'll get you there. Are you still doing your Inside Metal TV show or radio show as well? No, I'm actually up in Sacramento now because I've been working on a Bay Area documentary. That's our fourth title. We're working way ahead. So as I said, the L.A. Thrash movie is pretty much done. Carl's already did all the rough edit. And so it's ready to go to the editor. As soon as we get this one, you know, I'm, you know, we're still got a format DVD, too, to get it ready to screen on time. So I'm getting a little bit nervous here. But, yeah, I'm up in Northern California right now working on the Bay Area documentary. So but I forgot your goal, the Inside Metal show. So, yeah, I had to put that on hold, unfortunately. But I wouldn't get back on it because the guys at T Radio be great people. It was, you know, it was a lot of fun. And doing it with Jasmine was really cool. And so we'll probably pick it back up. All right, man. In the meantime, go check out this film and check out the prior film, which is on DVD now. You can check it up at you pick it up at Amazon, correct? Yep. Just go to Inside Metal and you'll see it. It's called Pioneers of L.A. Hard Rock and Metal. But if you go to Inside Metal on Amazon or iTunes, you can get it there. All right. Bob, thank you so much for being on the Very Mad at Jimmy Cab Show. You rule, Jimmy. Thank you so much. You rule. You're the best, man. Thank you so much. All right. You take care, man. Cheers. All right. Again, let me mention this again. This documentary series is so incredible and so educational. I really can't express, you know, again, you know, you hear about New York, Chicago, San Francisco, on and on. Fucking Florida, all that shit. You know what? Go check out June 2nd. Possibly you could pick up some tickets. Hollywood, California at The Attic, formerly Cinespace. And Monday, June 6th at the Regency Theaters, Valley Plaza 6 in North Hollywood. With that, let's listen to some music from that incredible era. Oh, boy. Chester, take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. I'm dumb. I'm dumb. I'm dumb. I'm dumb. I'm dumb. Your ways, your ways, they'll come I'm satisfied You'll never need to never be the same guitar solo And it's over now I wait Knowing that my painful fate is near Her seal of what appears Her beauty so discerning I've no fear I cry with delight as she unleashes All her fury upon me Her touch so suicide My body flees but I just beg for more More I know the pain of all who's come before me I feel the anger in her whip as she strikes me I see the devil in her eyes She makes me scream The dominatress The dominatress My body changes shackle I bleed for mercy as she laughs Sweet tontra takes her store I pray to God to let me go The gamble's dollar she may be I'll say false and I'll sin for me Just for me Blinded by desire for my blood Crashing mad and bite my love I know the pain of all who's come before me I follow this sp sp sp sp I follow this sp sp sp I follow this sp sp sp I follow this sp sp sp I follow this sp sp sp sp sp sp sp sp sp sp sp sp sp guitar solo solo With me Tiffany Your love As my love With me Tiffany I never Did Know In the self And though I'm Went Glowing at my face face In my In my In my face But now I wait, knowing that my fate, no fate is near I see the world appears, a beauty so discerning, I don't fear I cry with delight as she unleashes all her fury upon me I touch the sword's side, my body bleeds, but I live evermore I know the pain of all who's coming for me I feel the anger in her whip as she strikes me I see the devil in her eyes, she makes me scream The Dominatrix The Dominatrix Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Whoa! Things can have misbelievers But don't take a chance on me A pirate, a shot in the dark A cold, easy, but a total free A shot down, a kick in the cheek A coffee freezing, call me fool, yeah Lay the odds, ruin the taste A cold, chilly, I'm breaking the rules Cold, day in hell The reason being, can't you tell? It's a cold, day in hell Watch all this song and the sound But in the eyes of my misfriends The night is white again A bit of strength, a bit of strength No one listens, no one cares But the speed of the pain to last A chain to go, a broken fast A cold, chilly A cold, chilly sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain A sprain sprain I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. I'll see you then. Weapon out for me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.