And now, ladies and gentlemen, for the handful in attendance and the millions listening on the web on skidroad.la, this is Madtime Radio. All right, everybody, we're back. Madtime Radio. I'm Rich. And we've got Crayon here. Yes, sir. Coming at you from Skid Road Studios in downtown Los Angeles. And we're on the way. Yeah. We've got Jeremy in the studio. What's going on? No, I just couldn't hear it out of these headphones. I just switched the headphones. You got to turn them up. Turn the bass up. Turn the bass up. Turn my headphones up. Turn them up. Turn me up in the headphones a little bit. Turn them up. Everybody, thanks for tuning in again. And we're happy to be back with you on the air. Hey, did I do my yes, sir yet? For those of you who didn't hear. Yes, sir. Oh, okay. The phrase that pays in the house tonight. No, I'm just kidding. Okay, well, starting off. We got a guest coming in in a bit. So soon as they get here. Yeah, we're going to. Crail's going to let us know who we got in studio. Soon as they get here. Soon as they get here. Where are you guys at? Looking at some chairs right now. Crickets, crickets. No. Hey, I think I got that here somewhere. Oh, where's that drop? Where's that drop? Crickets. Keep talking. Oh, that was a smack. Wrong one. Don't tell me what you really want to do. Look at you throwing the smack at me now. Ah, refreshing. Everything but. Yeah. But a lot of exciting things going on over the weekend. A story that actually, to me, really stands out. A name you haven't heard in a long time. Guy Metzger. Old fighter from the Lions. Did you remember that guy, Crail? Yeah, the dude that. You can talk about that dude who got his fingers swiped up. Yeah, that was a pretty nasty cut, man. Yeah. It looks like he was fending off an attacker. And yeah, he saved a woman. And yeah, he paid a pretty big price for that. You know, I just seen. I seen a picture of his thumb. I mean, it looked pretty bad. But so what happened? What was the deal with that? Well, it looks like he was. I don't have internet at home, so. Well, it looks like he was out and about, I guess. And the attacker, he wasn't. He wasn't a big guy. I think he stayed about 150, 160 pounds. And well, it looks like Guy right now. He's about 200 pounds or so. And well, you know, I guess the game changer was that knife. And, you know, he took a pretty big slice to the hand there. I mean, that looked pretty bad. So. Yeah. I don't know if he is, you know, well, from what I hear, I guess he's retired now. And I don't, you know, I don't think it's really going to affect his training or anything if he even is still training. But it just goes to show you, you know, the confidence that comes from training the sport. And I don't know, dude. Now his grips are going to be all messed up. Yeah. Well, I mean, I look pretty deep. It looks very deep. I saw some tens. I saw some bone. I see some. It was off the bone, coach. It's off the bone, coach. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But I don't even think actually he was a Gi guy anyway. So he's done fine. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know, man. You know, should have had his Gi on or something. Yeah. You know, if he was a G in a Gi, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If he was a G in a Gi, he'd be moonwalk, rear naked choke, what is that song? He would have done a moonwalk, he would have finished with a rear naked choke. He's heavy like broccoli. I'm telling you, I'm going to like, you know, next time I roll to the club, dude, I'm just going to like tie my gear on my waist and I'm just going to take the jacket. Oh, dude, I'll get a song on for you. You can freestyle right now. Hold on. Hold on. Let me find one for you. I ain't heavy like a ton of broccoli, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to bust that one, man. Steel G.I. Oh, that's the wrong one. All right, my bad. Steel G.I. I always really got that one. And then, what else did we have? We had UFC on Fox this weekend. Yeah, what did you think about that? I heard a lot of people, at least myself, I miss Joe Rogan, you know? Yeah. But I heard a lot of people had the same comment. What did you think? I mean, overall, I thought that was okay. Production was good. Fights were good. I didn't really catch the whole thing. It's one of those that's like on the back of my TiVo, you know, hopefully you get some time. What? Hey, man, I was out training, dude. Oh, my bad. Yeah. I know you were out training too, but, you know, now you get time to... I should have been all over that one. The funny thing is when I went to go watch it, it said the prelims had started at 3 p.m. I didn't even know, so. It was like 3 to 6, the prelims, which all of them were. I guess no one's watching Fuel or something. And then they had the main fights from 6 to 7. Yeah, I think it was like a small part of it was on the main card and the rest of it. That's some good stuff. The fights, though. Yeah. Yeah, I got to go back and check that whole thing out. Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know either, man. I wonder where our guests are, though. Did someone throw off a light preserver? No. They're not even on Brazilian time, dude. Oh, no, they're on Guam time. Yeah, that's cool. It's all right. Don't worry. I got a bunch of instrumentals we can play. And what'd you think of Boz Rutten's pick? He actually says that Junior Dos Santos is going to beat Overeem. It's a tough one. Because, I mean, a lot of people had picked Kane to win that one fight and he just got his equilibrium take. So, you know, just depends on who lands the first punch. But Overeem's a big dude, man. Yeah. But Dos Santos hit hard. Yeah, Dos Santos is hard but, I mean, he's a very lean, you know, lean guy. He looks like he, I guess he was kind of a, you know, a hard gainer and stuff. He looks like he really, you know, he's always kind of lean and stuff. Yeah. I mean, I was just, I didn't wonder, it was only a few seconds into that Kane fight but everyone says Kane should have just taken him down. I think he tried once but, you know, it's hard when you get hit that hard that quick. It's hard to... Yeah. Well, Kane's back in the gym and he said he's not done. He's coming back and he's, you know... Yeah, they should have gave him a warm-up fight for all that time off, you know? So, I mean, I think it was like a year, right, between that fight and the Dos Santos fight? It was a long time because of injury. Yeah. Yeah, I know. But, yeah, he's back in the gym and he's working hard and, you know, he looks like, he says he's going to come back, so... Yeah. I'm sure he is. I mean, one loss, you know, especially when you've tasted, you know, the championship already, you know, he's going to want that back. I think he's going to work even harder when he's going to come back. Yeah, well, Dos Santos fights under our same banner, so, you know... Oh, and not to take anything from Junior because, I mean, he's, you know... I think... That's a big dude. He's a big dude and, you know, he's a really, really, you know, nice guy and everything and he's real humble and, you know, more deserving than him to, you know, to represent the UFC in that title. Yeah. And, you know, I wish him all the best of luck just for, you know, my brief interaction with him and hanging out and training and stuff and I hope that guy, you know, I hope the best for him. Yeah, next one. Rapid fire, rapid fire. Next topic. Are we going to, like, just turn off the lights and just leave the spotlight on me? Yeah. Never let him see us win? I'll just hit the bell. Oh, we're going to wrap it up. Round two. We're going to wrap it up. We're going to rapid fire. We're going to rapid fire through that. You see, Pat Barry, you missed, Pat Barry was a good fight. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I was worried about him. He got taken down really quick, got mounted and he had that worry looking in his eye. He came through. I don't think, he fought that dude, Moorcraft, I don't think he was, his jiu-jitsu was that solid but it was a pretty good fight. Knocked that dude out like crazy though. I think he was out for like five minutes on the floor. Ugh. Yeah. That's not good. That's not good. Got a lot of topics and then, I think since the last time we were on, Cyborg got popped for steroids. Yeah, well, come on. Dude, I thought she was all natural, dude. Yeah, sure. I want to know what supplements she bought though. I want to eat some of that stuff. Dude, if I can buy that at GNC. It's going to be sold out. Yeah, that was not just no milk, you know. And then King Moe just got popped too for steroids. Yeah, figures. Why dude? The king? Well, I mean, he's another, you know, huge, huge guy. Yeah, it's a big dude. Yeah. And, I think that, you know what, man, I know we'll have a guy call in later, but I know, I think most of those people use it. The ones that just don't get caught just cycle off sooner. Do you think? Yeah, I think, I think so. I really couldn't say I don't have, you know, I really don't know much, you know, about it other than what I hear in the news and stuff. huh. Well, you know, look at me. Yeah, I'm a big juicer. Yeah. I juice, but it's, it's only like celery and carrots and. Don't forget the broccoli. Broccoli, because I'm heavy like broccoli. Yeah. So, if someone wants to call in and save us, you can call the show. Yeah, topic, we'll talk about it. Well, 1-800-893-9562. Yeah, catch us on Facebook, Twitter. Twitter, at Matt Time Radio. Yeah. Or listen live on, you can go to skidroadstudios.com, download the app, or if you've got Stitcher, you can download Stitcher app too. Yeah, I love that Stitcher app. Yeah, it's pretty cool, right? Yeah, there's no, there's no lag time. I mean, it gets the shows right away. Yeah, and then it, you know, populates with other shows that are similar to what you listen to. So, if you want to hear something else. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. So, what else we got, man? We got a couple of the guests coming in next week. Want to talk about that? Yeah, well, let's talk about that, the interview that we did out in Marietta, man. Yeah, no kidding. We were just listening to the tape, made sure it came out right. We were actually, we sat down with the legendary Carlson Gracie Jr. That was a treat, wasn't it? Yeah, that was a good interview, man. That guy's funny. Very funny, and just, you know, we could have spent the whole day there with him. I wish we could have had more time. I definitely think if he's ever back in the area and we're able, you know, to meet up with him again, that would be, you know, a great opportunity to get a part two with him. Yeah, and the guys over at Carlson Gracie Temecula just, I mean, provided some great hospitality and pretty nice guys up there too, man, if you're out in that area and you want to go train, you can stop in there, man. The guy, talk to my buddy Tom Cronin, he'll hook you up. Yeah, stop in, say hi to the Carlson Gracie team, and we were lucky to sit down and, you know, actually, well, you got to take the seminar and, you know, some good technique. I saw, you know. Yeah, good old Carlson Gracie jujitsu, smash, pass, submit. Yeah, just, you know, nothing acrobatic, nothing fancy, but just highly effective. You know, just basics done and taught right, you know, as they should. Yeah, it looked like a lot of fun. Yeah. Well, that'd be cool, man. We got our guys from Shoyaro coming at some time today. Talk to them, I think. Yeah, they should be coming in the studio. We're going to be talking about their Brazilian jujitsu gis and just their little different spin on the market and, you know, how they're different than some of the other companies that are out there and who we've had in here in the past. Yeah. Get their perspective on it. And then, I mean, he's got so many people on his roster, though, like he's got Kyle Terra, JT Torres. I mean, it's like a lot of people. Oh, wow. He got JT Torres, huh? Yeah. A lot of people just want to show you a role. Oh, nice. Yeah. I haven't been able to get my hands on one of those gis yet. Yeah, me either. It's okay. And shout out to our boy Noah Tillis. Actually, you know, he's doing his thing in his school, Tillis BJJ out in Whittier. Just opened his new school. If you are looking for some really, really good, you know, old school Carlson Gracie style training, you know, that's the spot. Stop in, say hi, you know, get your, you know, get a chance to get on the mat and do some rolling. Great little school, you know. Noah's actually also, I think he's sponsored by Show Your Role also, isn't he? Yeah. Well, man, that dude, Noah, everyone calls him a kid, but, I mean, if you look at his, his medal resume or tournament resume, he's pretty crazy. He's got so many tournaments, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Loads of tournament experience. you know, like I said. He was just a kid when I started training. Me too. He was just, I think he had just gotten his blue belt because he was only, you know, I think you have to be 16 to get your blue belt. Yeah. He was an orange belt for a while. So he had just got his and that's when I got there and, you know, Noah's been helping me since day one and, great instructor. I would, you know, I would trust anybody, you know, to go, I would highly recommend, you know, to at least take in a class with him and, and just, you know, experience, you know, his teaching style and stuff and, you know, you, you get some really good training with him. Yeah. Cool dude. And, who else we got after, after Carlson Gracie Jr.? We have, you know, I think next week, you know what? You can just go on mathtimeradio.com and tell us. I think we got, I know we got Howard Liu from Howard Combat Kimonos coming in. Oh, that's right. Yeah. I think a lot of people that we've had on here have said, have talked about how, like, that dude was around before anybody else was. I thought it'd be cool to get him in the show and get his perspective. And next, you know, it's two weeks from now. And the next Sunday, we got Savant Young coming down. Oh, yeah. He's got that Pasadena Fight Academy. Yeah, I think they did a really good piece on him. What was it? I'm not sure. It was MSNBC or one of those Dateline shows or something like that. I think it was like MMA Fighting in the USA. That was a really good little mini documentary they did about fighters coming out of his gym and, you know, what the struggles of an MMA fighter and a lot of the things they had to give up, you know, to compete in the sport. Yeah, don't get that confused with that, what's that MTV? Caged? Yeah, Caged, that MTV show. That thing is so funny. Yeah, no, that's more. Did you see that show? Hillbilly Backyard MMA? Yo, man, I can't bust my finger. Let's go to Chili's and grab a beer before I go to Williams. Yeah, and he goes to the doctor and the doctor says, dude, he's broken. And he goes, that's all right, I'll let it heal. It's got to look pretty. It's got to make a good face. So people are like, dude, that show's garbage. Yeah, well, but I mean, but the one you're talking about, that document, what was it? What channel was that on, man? It's on MTV too. No, Caged? Caged is on MTV too. No, dude. Oh, no, Caged is, but not the other one. It's one of those other documents. That cage fight in the USA, I'm going to look it up. It's a local one. I think it's like an NBC one or something like that. It's one of those. It's a legit station. It's a legit documentary. It's real. There's no BS. Current TV. Current TV. Okay. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Yeah. I knew it was a local one, but even, yeah, Caged, I mean, you know, it's no, you know, I'm training in my backyard. Yeah. You know, flipping tractor tires. But that piece, yeah, that piece when we watched it, you know, in Savant Young's Fight Academy, it was on there. It was pretty good, man. And I know he's got another thing coming up. I think it's called Proving Ground 7. Yeah, I think that's his fight promotion. He did, they showed one of them, I guess, like one installment of that fight, you know, that set of fights right there at his academy. Yeah. And it looked like a really nice gym too. Yeah. Yeah. It looks big. Yeah. I'm looking forward to, you know, to checking out that place. And then, and then our friends from Fight Me Clothing, actually, they were out and about this weekend. I believe there was a live MMA fight at Hollywood Park. That was a local one that we were. Yeah. Those guys in Chingazo's MMA was over there too. With the Chingazo bus. Yeah. Except they need a new bus driver, I heard. I heard, supposedly. Oh, are you going to, are you going to step up and, and volunteer for that spot? No, I can't drive a bus, dude. I drive classics. It's a short bus. Don't worry, I'll let you borrow my wrestling headgear. You fit right in. Oh, I know, huh? Oh, that bus is pretty hilarious. I do want to take a ride. I want to take a ride in that bus though. Bring you back memories? Oh, easy. Yeah, when we used to go pick you up for school in the morning. Yeah, hey, I used to walk. I was poor. One time I took the tires off my bike and I tried to ride it on the railroad tracks. Oh, no way. Didn't work that well. Hey, look at Jeremy. He looks upset. You're killing me, Larry. Come on, Craig. We'll get you high, Craig. Oh, no, I'm at Time Radio with Rich and Craig. What are you doing? Oh, Jeremy, we're live still. Oh, wait till after the show. Yeah. Hey, dude, if you guys haven't had a chance to come down, the studio looks awesome. Yeah, there's a lot of great artwork in here. Hey, doesn't the studio's having some music festival? Maybe, uh, Jeremy's got a second. He can plug it real quick. I know, do we, yeah, we do have that coming up. Do you have that somewhere we can tell people where that's at? That's pretty cool. I know, I forgot about that. Uh, yeah, uh, Boogie by the River Festival, March 10th, uh, at Space Camp, which is at, uh, 1726 North Spring Street. So, that's like on the, uh, Lincoln Heights, Chinatown side of Spring Street. Cool. Um, but yeah, just tons of bands. Uh, Skid Row Studios is sponsoring the event. Um, come out there, check us out. Uh, we'll have, you know, shirts and flyers and stickers and what have you. And, uh, hopefully some of the hosts from the show, like, like you guys will come out and check it out. And, um, yeah, we're going to record the show. We're going to promote it. Maybe get some of the bands in before the show to do some interviews and stuff. You know, we're going to, we're going to do as much as we can. So, yeah, we're looking forward to that. Yeah. Maybe get a link on, uh, on, uh, skidrowstudios.com where they can see where the flyer's at or something. Yeah. It's up on our Facebook page right now. And, uh, go, go check out, uh, Facebook slash Skid Row Studios. And check it out. But, uh, too many bands to even mention, but, uh, but, uh, it's going to be a good event. It's going to be an all, all day thing. Cool. That'll work. Or, uh, what's it, um, Sonia that works in the studio, her band's going to be playing, right? Yeah. Sketch Monster's going to be playing. Uh, looking forward to that. If you guys haven't heard Sketch Monster, great band, great music, exactly the, the kind of stuff I like to space out to. And, uh, you know what I mean? Yeah. Are we going to, well, I think that'd be a good chance. If, if, uh, Steve from Fight Me's out there, you know, listening, maybe we got a, it'd be a perfect opportunity for us to meet the, the Fight Me girls maybe at that event. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. That would, that would be great actually. We get the Fight Me girls down there maybe if they're, if they're not busy. I know, uh, I know, uh, Fight Me's out there doing a lot of, uh, a lot of events and, uh, that dude's busy. Maybe we'll get him on the schedule though. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he can come by too. And, uh, you know, see if he can, uh, sell some of his, uh, clothing line in, uh, for those who haven't seen it yet, fightmeclothing.com or, uh, you know, you know, even invite girls out to also do to our friends at D comp. D comp always coming out with some new designs and, uh, you know, maybe we can see if we can get them there. Yeah. Say what? Oh, sorry. Someone's over there talking. Yeah. I know. So, uh, where's, where's the guest at, man? These guys, uh, they're kind of late, huh? Just a little man. Just a little. We, we would expect that, you know, when they're on Brazilian time, but, uh, don't worry. Tell me a little bit about the guest. Uh, maybe just a small intro. What are these guys do and, uh, where do they come from? Well, I know show your role is supposed to be our guests in here that these guys, um, they make, uh, you know, they got a whole lifestyle thing about, about jujitsu. So they make geese and they actually started off making shirts and stickers. And I mean, they got a huge following. They make great, great product, make great geese. And you're supposed to come by here. And I know he's bringing by his, uh, his buddy. There's a lot of competition in terms of the clothing. It seems. Cause you guys have had, I mean, in all the shows you've done so far, there's, there's been a lot of companies and, uh, how, how does that work? Like, how do they get distribution? Do they, they, they all sponsor fighters and that's how they, they get recognition or, or how, how do you break into the market? If you want to be a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, You know, they try to associate themselves with guys that win tournaments. A lot of the big names, you know, that are out there. Yeah, usually, you know, when you see your heroes wearing, you know, that are out there winning and stuff and you see the gear that they're wearing, you know, oh, I want to pick me up one of those. And just word them out. Our community is very tight-knit. So when we come across a good product, you know, word gets out and word, you know, gets around and, you know, we pick it up and stuff. Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with fit. You know, I think people buy stuff that they like that fits them well. Yeah. And Shogu Roll's got a different cut and people like it and, you know, the quality's good. They're not mass-producing any one of their runs, so they're on the whole limited run deal. Yeah, and two, you know, fit is a really big thing. You know, comfort, but also it has to be legal for tournament. When you get out there to tournament for most big, you know, events, they measure your gi. They check the sleeve length. They check, you know, like everywhere to make sure it's within spec. If you're not, you're not getting on the mat. Have you seen someone be disqualified because their gi didn't match the standards? Bunch of times. I've seen people where sleeves are too short, you know, too many patches in the wrong place, your belt's torn, your belt's not, you know, faded. Yeah, I've seen people get turned away, mismatch color. You know, gi, if you're not wearing the same color top with, you know, different color pants. And what's the reason for that? They want uniformity. Is it distracting or is it tradition or? No, I think a lot of it has to do with if your gi, if let's say your sleeves are too short, you have an advantage over the opponent being able to control your sleeves. Yeah, because the gi is gripped during the fight in every place possible. And it's used for control. It's used to face submission holds. So every part of that uniform is under a high. Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, yo. Breaking news, man. They're downstairs. Oh, okay. Hey, do we want to take a, maybe take a quick break? Yeah, sure, take a quick break. That sounds good. All right, man. We've got to show you a roll coming up in a few minutes. You're listening to Matt Time Radio. This is Moya Brand. Call us 800-893-9562. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Up in here, y'all gon' make me go all out Up in here, up in here, y'all gon' make me act a fool Up in here, up in here, y'all gon' make me lose my cool Up in here, up in here Off the chain, I leave niggas soft in the brain Cause niggas still want the fame, off the name First of all, you ain't rap long enough To be fucking with me and you, you ain't strong enough So whatever it is you puffin' on I got you thinkin' that you Superman I got the kryptonite, should I smack him with my dick in a mic? Y'all niggas are characters, not even good actors What's gon' be the outcome? It's out of all the factors You whack, you twist it, your girl's a hoe You broke, the kid ain't yours and everybody knows Your own man say you stupid, you be like, so? I love my baby mother, I never let her go I'm tired of weak-ass niggas whinin' over Put that dope along to them, fuck is wrong with them They fuckin' up for real niggas like my mans in them Who get it all when the shrimp put their hands with them Man, y'all gon' make me lose my mind Up in here, up in here Y'all gon' make me go All out, up in here, up in here Y'all gon' make me act a fool Up in here, up in here Y'all gon' make me lose my cool Up in here, up in here I bring down rains to heavy and curse the head No more talk, put them in the dirt and stay You keep walkin', guess you tryin' to end up dead Cause if I end up dead, I end up dead You just a soft-type nigga, fake up, north-type nigga Push like a soft-white nigga Dog is a dog, blood stickin' in water We done been through the hard times We done been through the mud And we quicker than slaughter The bigger the order, the more guns we run out When the finna' everybody come out When the body burn out Sendin' in the sellout I'ma keep the gun out Nigga runnin' his mouth I'ma blow his lung out Listen, your ass is about to be missin' You know who gon' find you? Some old man fishin' Grandma wishin' your soul's at rest But it's hard to digest it The size of the hole in your chest Y'all gon' make me lose my mind Up in here, up in here Y'all gon' make me go all out Up in here, up in here Y'all gon' make me go all out Up in here, up in here Y'all gon' make me go all out Up in here, up in here Hold on, guys. Bouncin' again, bounce with the girls Bouncin' again, bounce with the girls Bouncin' again, bounce with the girls Bouncin' again, bounce with the girls Bouncin' again, bounce with the girls Bouncin' again, bounce with the girls All my streets be bouncin' again Bouncin' again, bounce with the girls Bouncin' again, bounce with the girls Bouncin' again, bounce with the girls Bouncin' again, bounce with the girls Now All right, everybody, we're back. And we're here with our in-studio guest. Who we got, Crail? Yeah. All right, man, we got Bear from Show Your Role in the house. Say what up, Bear. Hey, what's going on, guys? And we also got Budo Dave in the house. What's going on, guys? Cool, man. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. You guys are late. So you know what the penalty is when you're late, right? Special push-ups? Burpees on the way out. Burpees on the way out. Hey, dude, well, thanks for coming down, man. I know you got hit with some traffic or whatever's out there on a Sunday. So I appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to come down. No worries, man. Thanks a lot for having us. We're stoked to be here. Yeah, so we're real excited about, you know, your product and, you know, the whole scene and everything. Can you tell us a little bit? About how you started the company back in Guam? Yeah, we're going to go through the basics, right? So. Well, on Guam, that was just kind of where the ideas kind of formed. And we really didn't start up till we got to Los Angeles. But for the most part, it was more just ideas. Just the kids trying to have an idea to try and start a clothing company. And when we got out to the mainland, that's when we kind of really started as a hobby brand. And that's kind of how it all started, you know. So you were born out there. You were born in Guam? No, I was born in Riverside County. And then I moved to Guam. And I was like elementary school. And then I came back out here for college. Oh, you did? OK, cool. And it's you and who else? You and who else is over there at Show Your Role? It's just me. It's just me for the most part. And my wife helps me with some of the back end stuff. And that's pretty much it. Yeah. Well, it's your full time job now. She sees what you get. Tell everyone about the name. Because I love the, you know, the way it came out and everything. Yeah. Hold on. Let me play some reggae music in the background for you. Because I know you. There you go. All right. That's way better. Yeah. Set the mood better. Yeah, that's way better. There you go. No, but the name just came about just with the three words. Just in grappling, show your role. And we got rid of a couple letters. And then we just combined the words. So just get on the mat and show your role. That's kind of how it kind of originated. And kind of spread out along the lines of everything else. You know, so that's how we got the name Show Your Role. Nice. Nice. And back then, who were you training with back in that time? Like who were some of your training partners? Or who did you start with? I think back in that when I first started jujitsu, I think we started like at the Gracie Academy for like two months. It was just too expensive. Yeah. I was like a poor college student. So I had to like train in the garage with like a bunch of guys. Like sometimes I got to train over at Rodrigo Medeiros' school. In La Habra? In La Habra, yeah. Oh, okay. And then Crazy Tim Cradeau and like Javier Vasquez. Some of like the old school guys. And then just jumped around. I think I trained with James Rouran for a little bit. And then ended up jumping into training with Tinguina. And now just training with Leandro Vieira and some of the other guys, you know. So I train with a ton of people. Oh, so you're with Leandro now? I'm with Leandro now. Just working out. Just getting my butt kicked all the time. Oh, okay. So actually, and then one of our buddies, Jason Trujillo is down there. Oh, yeah. Big J. Love that guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. J. real big in the tournaments and stuff. If you ever go to... Why you got to say it like that, dude? Well, because he's... He's a well-respected guy in that circle. Oh, I think when you say he's real big in the tournament, J. Well, I don't think J. would take any offense if I say he's big. But if you ever go to an IBJJF event or any big tournament, you're going to see him there. You're going to see him working. So how'd you get hooked up with Dave? How'd you come across this guy's path? You know what? I'm not exactly sure. He needed a ride? Yeah, he stumbled into our offices probably about two years ago, right? Yeah, yeah. It was about two years ago. And he walked in carrying a gi and said, Hey, would you guys like to sell my gi? And we're like, yeah. Hey, so really quick. So people that don't know... I mean, obviously your name's not Budo Dave, right? Right. So what's the name Budo Dave? Okay, well, obviously Budo Videos is a company I started with Jake. Okay. He and I have been friends since high school. Okay. We started this small company out of basically his mom's bedroom about eight years ago. Okay. A really, really tiny operation. We were just selling videos. Jake was actually... He was living in Japan. He was bringing stuff over from Japan. We were just selling it on eBay. Okay. And Budo means martial arts in Japanese. And stuff was selling pretty good. So we was like, well, let's start a website and start selling these imported Japanese martial arts tapes and DVDs. And so we just came up with the name Budo Videos years ago. That slowly kind of transitioned. We started carrying more uniforms, karate gis, some jujitsu stuff, some tap out clothing. But one of our main goals when we started was to actually produce martial arts videos. Most of it's instructional. Most of it's instructional. A lot of that actually got put on hold because we were just selling a lot of merchandise. You guys sell a lot of stuff. We sell a lot of stuff. You got a great... I mean, if you go there, you can try stuff on and... Yeah. I mean, it's kind of cool. I like that. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah. Well, besides all the cool things that you can buy there too, I love it for the live streams that you guys have. Yeah. That's something that we've been doing for the last few years and trying to improve upon every time we do it. We got the live stream thing. We got the live stream thing. We got the live stream thing. Our goal is since we're... We've been practicing jujitsu for six plus seven years each is to bring jujitsu to the rest of the world because it's kind of an underground sport still. I think jujitsu is different than MMA. I think we kind of got to let the world know that. You know that it's a sport until its own. A lot of people can benefit from so many great things that jujitsu has to offer. Those things aren't so apparent when you just see it in pictures or hear people talking about it. One of my original things was I want to offer live streams. I just wanted to offer live streams because I just wanted to give people the chance to appreciate that I'm just doing that because I just appreciate that I'm just doing that. I just appreciate that I'm just doing that because I just appreciate that I'm just doing we just got back from Guam and, and, you know, being there and hearing people tell me that they're so thankful that we bring jujitsu to them is like one of the best things I'd ever heard. You know, like it's, it's, that's what I've always wanted to do, you know? Um, but then we, then we've got the, the other online shows that we do that we helped. You, uh, you got an extra server for this guy when he sells his geese? Cause this guy sells his geese. He must have everybody up till midnight. Yeah. It's a, it's a crazy thing, man. I, um, that's great for business. I mean, for both you guys. Cause how fast can we crash it? You know? Yeah. It's, you know, we, we really, we've, we've put a lot, uh, into trying to get that system down and working, but it's the brand just keeps growing and growing and growing. We're surprised by it every single time. And I, I know this probably come up, but you guys were almost like, uh, you know, Barry, you guys were almost ahead of the curve when it comes to taking a simple white gi and changing it up. And you know what I like about your geese? There's not a lot of like overindulgent of embroidery and stuff like that. Right. So, but it's still a nice quality gi. So how, um, how does that work with so many other gi companies coming around? I know you, I mean, there's tons of gi companies popping up like every day now. Yeah. Well, you know, it's, um, I, I think we kind of like took what's already been done and, you know, we didn't recreate anything, you know, we, and we by far not like the creators of like a good gi, you know, there's a bunch of great geese out there. I think what we did is we just kind of took something that was simple and try to make it stylish for, uh, for people, you know, for a certain niche of people. And, um, and we just try to get it better every single time. You know, and I think, like you said, there's a bunch of, there's a ton of different companies out there, but I think, uh, what we tried to stick to is stuff that we're good at and stuff that we understand, you know, and, and just kind of, kind of just get better every single time, you know? And you guys got guys out there that have like, there's people on Facebook to go on and have every one of your geese, like every single one of them, right? It's kind of crazy. Yeah. It's cool. I mean, it's cool. Like you see that and you're like, all right, die hard, show your old fan, everyone. But you know, one thing I did read, based on the bell colors. Yeah. Yeah. Which is kind of cool, right? For sure. For sure. And I think that's what we did. Like when we do concepts, it's just kind of like, we don't let all the information when it's like, when we release it, we kind of just like let it go. And then when it's all said and done, we kind of complete the puzzle, you know, we kind of said, Hey, like this was the method to our madness, you know? And that's kind of what it is. Yeah. But I mean, Oh, okay. I'm sorry. It looks like we got a call, a caller on the line. Hello, caller. Hey, this is Scotty. Hey, what's up Scotty? Scotty. How's it going? Scotty, we're just talking about geese and how like one day I was like able to afford a lucky gee and you, you gave me one at a discount price and I was walking around like the coolest guy ever. Sounds like a good day. Here we go. Scott, is this Scotty from on the mat? Yes, it is. Oh man. Thanks for calling the show. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. What kind of discount you give, what kind of discount you get better for that gee, man? He's so, he's still smiling about it. I don't know. It's probably a pretty good one. Bear's a pretty nice guy. I should have gave him for free, man. He's a super nice guy. No, I think, um, just since Scotty's online, I think it's probably like perfect to talk about, you know, I think like when we created a gee, it was based off of like the base things that have been done in the market and no Scotty and on the mat and lucky. We're like the first guys that kind of do like the whole contrast stitching thing and make it kind of cool, you know, on the inside printing. And, you know, we took a little bit of a little bit from everybody, you know, we took the contrast stitching from what Scotty was doing and, you know, pants from another manufacturer cause we liked that and we made a good key, you know, and I think like lucky and, and some of the other brands kind of like set or started to set that, set the standard of, um, popping bottles over here. Not to mention the, you know, they were the first company to really kind of release like a limited edition gee. Okay. I remember when those things came out and it was just so much talking to me, I don't want to spend that much money. That's crazy. And then, then they were all sold out and everyone's like, we're going to get, we're going to get one. Yeah. But the lucky, yeah, especially I found love with the, with the contrast stitching on the black key with, you know, with the like, you know, reddish pink stitch. Yeah. It was, it was the greatest thing when I saw it. Hey, Hey Scotty, how'd you get started in the business? In making geese? Yeah. Don't tell me you were taking a trip to Pakistan and this stumbled upon a gee factory. No, not, not quite, man. But, uh, I was just, uh, I actually started making geese with BJ Penn and Dave Camarillo. We always had guys coming to train at a house. Gracie's from Brazil, bringing different geese over. And, uh, at the time, BJ's dad was looking into starting an American gee company and try to make geese in America. And, we were all working together on it. They kind of gave up on the project and lost interest in it, but I still always wanted to make geese. So I originally started trying to make them in Brazil before I went to Pakistan. Oh, okay. You couldn't do it in the, in the US, huh? Too far, too expensive. Man, I'm still trying. I'm still, it's not so much that it's so expensive. It's that we don't have the machines and the equipment here to do it anymore. We, we sold all of our manufacturing equipment, you know, decades ago. There's only two places in America that still weave cotton fabric. And then unless you want to weave about a million yards of gold weave or pearl weave, they don't want to talk to you. Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. That's a lot of stuff. Show your all making all those limited editions and they just make enough for everybody. We can probably buy that million dollars worth of fabric. Yeah. What a lot of people don't understand is like, you know, me and Scotty are, are good friends and, and we were always like trying to figure out how we can do stuff to try and like help, you know, try and make these quicker, try and make these locally. And yeah, without a cut down on the, on the wait time, if, if you can get them done here, but it's still, I mean, yeah, for sure. It's like money and everything else that's involved. If, if you don't realize, you know, well, you know, just like Scotty said, he's still trying, I'm still trying. We're, we're, we're trying to find ways around, around the, the way things are done now, just to try and try different things. You know, we want to try and make a gi made in the USA, probably just probably more than anybody else. Are you looking to expand the company or are you looking to just keep it the way it is and, and, you know, keep that niche market that you, you already know, well establishing, um, you know, for, for sure. And I think, um, I think right now we're, um, we have a good niche, you know, and, um, we're always looking to expand into, into different things, but we're super duper picky on, on whatever we try and expand into, you know, we don't want to like half ass anything, you know, so we're just trying to, um, we're just trying to pick and pick and choose our, our moves really, really precisely, especially with the market being really, really, really saturated right now. You know, I think Scotty could probably talk about that too, you know? Yeah. How do you deal with that, Scotty? With so many geek companies out there, just, you know, trying to push their stuff out. I freaking love it, man, because I come from the, days of where you had to wait from somebody to come from Brazil to buy some geese and half the time they would fall apart and, you know, you just couldn't get it. I love to see all these new key companies. I love to see all the new styles. And I always look at jujitsu more like skateboarding surf industry where, you know, guys need their signature key and they make money off of it. And, and we need to have more style. I mean, that's what jujitsu is all about, you know, it's like, what's your style? Like how you, how's your game? And I think having, different styles and different pieces, the way it should be. Wait till you get to throw back Krugans, right? Remember those? I mean, I still have one of the collars, the collars on them. Things were so thick, you know, the lapels and stuff. I mean, old school. Yeah. And I think like, I think Dave, Dave gets Dave's Dave and Buddha videos. They sell like all the brands, you know? So these guys probably get like hit up from every single brand that starts, you know, and they probably see a wide variety. Of style. I mean, literally weekly, we're getting emails from all these new startup companies. Hey, I got this new key. It's just like the show your role, but it's cheaper. What do you guys do with that though? How do you, I mean, cause, okay, so you have Buddha videos and then sky's got on the mat, which has got a bunch of stores too, right? Right. I mean, how do you guys handle that from a business perspective when you get so many people like, Hey, we sell my stuff. You know, it's tough because, you know, we have for us, it's, we have limited space of stuff that we can carry. And then, you know, we can only kind of carry stuff that people have demand for, you know? And I think there are a lot of brands that kind of come on the scene and they think that if they can get their brand on Buddha videos, that it's going to kind of legitimize their brand. And there might be some truth to that, but you know, it becomes risky for us. So we can have to be really careful, you know? But some companies, you know, we're surprised. And like, when we picked up show, we didn't think it was going to sell. Like we had no idea. We wanted to get like the big core brands, like Atama and Corral and all those things that we had demand for. And this idea of bringing some like unknown brand from some Island in the Pacific, I'd never, I'd never heard of before. It seemed really risky, you know? But lo and behold, you know, things happen. So we try to help out the industry as much as we can, but you know, we have our limitations too. You know, we're busy producing all these shows and, you know, and dealing with the brands that we deal with very closely and, you know, shipping stuff out all the time. So unfortunately, you know, there's going to be a lot of brands that are going to come on board that just aren't going to survive. And you know, that's the nature of the business, I think. So what happens to all those geese you guys have in stock? You just came back? You guys work on consignment with those guys? Or how does that work? you know, a lot of the, well, if, you know, if we're not, if we're not sure of the brand, we won't carry it, you know? Yeah. Rarely have we had product that just doesn't sell. I mean, it does happen once in a while, but you know, it'll move eventually. People like, you know, not everybody likes a soy roll, you know? People, people will want like a Corral or even some like other off brand and, and it'll move. And some, you know, of course there's some times where we have to kind of just cut stuff cheap to get rid of it. Yeah. Make room for more products to come in, you know? Yeah. Do you see the same thing, Scotty? Man, there's nothing worse than having to bum somebody out when they put all their time and energy into coming out with a new product and stuff. And you can just look at it and you're like, man, you know, it's not going to, it's not going to sell the way they think it is. Your stores are online and it sucks, but you never know what's going to blow up. You know, what's going to come out and just take off too. So you just got to weigh out your options and sometimes you take a chance. But the way business, it is nowadays, it's harder and harder to take a chance. And times are tough. Yeah. Any, uh, any, any gear out there that surprised you that you were like, nah, it's not going to work. And it worked out. Um, I don't know. You know, we do it in our stores more with a lot of like the MMA brands. Yeah. Um, you know, we do sell geese and we're looking to add more geese in there, but, you know, these are expensive to carry. As I'm sure Jake will tell you, they're not cheap to stock all those different brands that he has. Um, I, you know, sometimes for me, I'm just amazed that even how some of these big brands are failing, like form and Jocko and Tokyo five, you know, guys that have millions of dollars behind them and you still can't pull it off. But then you get somebody like bear comes out and just does gorilla marketing and it takes off. Gorilla marketing, huh? Just keep on giving away free stickers. You do. I mean, but, but you, you do have some big name guys under your banner too. I mean, right. Yeah. You know, like, I mean, we had some like decent sized guys under the banner, you know what I mean? Like, um, we had Kyle and a couple other guys, you know, Kyle still like supports our stuff, but you know, he, he's with another sponsor now, you know, but for the most part, like most of the guys we support, we've supported them since they've been like a blue belt or a purple belt, you know, and we kind of try to help build, promote them throughout the time, you know, and for us, it's, you know, there's, there's guys like Rodolfo and all these other big names in jujitsu, like Marcello and all these guys. And, you know, from our standpoint, from when we first started the company, we couldn't, we couldn't afford those guys, you know? Yeah. And, um, and, and, and now it's kind of like, it's almost helped us because we've kind of been able to handpick some of the up and coming people that have been on the scene trying to get to that Rodolfo status or whoever it may be. And now they're kind of, they've kind of grown and we've kind of grown, you know, so we've kind of grown together. And, um, I think that grassroots, um, portion of trying to grow the business and trying to promote the, the product is all kind of like helping where the brand is today, you know? But, um, I mean, we're, we're, we're struggling, we're struggling just to try and adapt, um, more than probably anybody else's in the market just because everything's changing, you know? And, and we're constantly trying to evolve just probably like how Scottie is and, uh, and on the retail side, like Budo and on the mat is, you know? So, I mean, it's, uh, you guys have like tons of people that like your stuff and I guess tons of people that want it. And tons of people that don't have it, but you guys do a pretty good job of balancing that. Cause obviously, you know, some people's expectations are like, Hey, I'll order now and have it tomorrow. And it doesn't really work that way. Yeah. Well, the, the, the funny thing is like, the funny thing is there's the whole supply and demand thing, you know? And, and regardless of how you want to balance your business model, you know what I mean? I'm pretty sure like, um, even though me and Scottie are direct competitors in the ghee market, you know, um, I'm pretty sure at one point in time there was a guy that wanted to get a lucky, you know, that couldn't get a lucky, and he probably went and bought an Atama or a Shoro, you know, in the same sense where there probably might've been someone that wanted to get a Shoro ghee and they didn't have, we didn't, they didn't have, we didn't have it. So they went and bought another brand, brands ghee, you know? So, um, you know, I think for the most part, it opens it up for, for a bunch of other businesses to kind of jump into the market, kind of what we're seeing right now, you know, but, um, at the same time, um, just allows us to, to try and change things or adjust things if we really want to, you know? So, well, too, I think one of the great things is that also everyone that trains, nobody just has one ghee, you know? You hope not. Oh, you smell a ghee, man. You know, I mean, I, from, you know, from the few years that I've been training, you know, I've collected, you know, quite a few ghees myself and tried, you know, different brands and stuff. And, and so, yeah, I mean, at least I, you know, it keeps it open to new people that are starting to train, you know, they start off with whatever, you know, whatever's pushed in their school. And then after they can make a decision and they can figure out what they like and, and, and move on and find something else. Yeah. You guys done your whole thing on your, your whole thing is limited runs, right? I mean, that's your base. Like you guys do one, one set of ghees and that's how you'll make, you won't make, you know, 4,000 of the same ghee, right? Yeah. We, we try not to, you know, I mean, if we're going to re-release the ghee that we've done before in the past, you know, I mean, that's always been talked about and we haven't done one yet, you know, but that's kind of like the whole, that's kind of like the whole base and model of what we do is just try and produce a ghee and move on from that. Model, you know, even though there's probably a bunch of people after the, after the fact that want that one ghee, just kind of what we've been doing. We'll produce a ghee, then we'll move on to the next one. You know, it's probably a lot cheaper just to carry one ghee to be honest. Yeah. But it's like, it's almost like people probably want the ghee cause they can't get it. Right. Exactly. As soon as you double your order and then you're sitting on half the inventory, you're like, what the hell? Right. Well, I mean, Scotty is like, Scotty is like, Scotty is like the mastermind behind like a lot of this in the very beginning, you know, with Lucky G's like he, like he started to create like a lot of this hype behind like a ghee's and trying to get like a cool ghee. You know, there was no cool ghee in my opinion, besides until Lucky dropped their ghee, you know, and that kind of like started the whole thing, you know? And how, Scott, how are you Scotty involved with Lucky G? Is that your ghee? Yeah, that's my ghee. Okay. So you're almost like one of those first guys to put that almost rash guard on the inside of the ghee. Yep. We, I just took a look at a lot of stuff, you know, like, just like Bear said, you know, stuff that other people were doing in the ghee market. And just, I wanted to do something cooler, you know, do something that was a little bit more stylish that had my style to it. And I got lucky that people really liked it. It's not like I came up with anything original, you know, contrast stitching has been in the fashion industry forever. Louis Vuitton has been doing all over print on the inside. I just took some of those things I liked from the fashion industry, from street wear, put it on a ghee. I just wanted to show you guys what I was doing. Nice. Yeah. Well, I know the lucky you was really, really popular when it first came out. Yeah. Same thing, like the show your role and, and kind of in seeing people wearing those brands, that was kind of you, you, um, you knew someone that, you know, that was really, really into the sport and stuff. When you saw someone sporting a lucky gear and like a show, you're like, so you, you and Dave get along pretty good. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, Scotty was just over at our warehouse. It's not too long ago dropping off some stuff. Oh, okay. Just make sure it's always cool talking to Scott. He's just, I know you got a, you got a couple of stores, right? Scotty. Yeah. We got eight stores. No, neighbors actually. You are. Are those all owned or those franchise out or what's the deal with the, with the stores? Five of them are mine and three of them are licensed out. Oh, okay. Cool. And you got, and you got a website that people want to go. I'm sure, I'm sure everybody knows, but if they wanted to go buy some on the mat stuff, what's the website? Yeah. On the mat.com. Hello. Oh, do we got another caller in the line? Yes. I'm on the line. Oh, okay. We're turning into a round table, right? Who's on the line? Bye Scotty. We got another guy on the line. Fire away. Who just called? Yeah. You're, you're on. This is Tom from Texas. How are you guys doing? Good. How you doing Tom? What's up Tom? Doing great. Doing great. I've just been a long time fan of show your role for a long time. And I just had some questions for bear. If that's cool with you guys. Yeah. Right. Yeah, for sure. Tom, what's up, man? All right. Well, actually Kyle is there too, right? I think Kyle is jumping on maybe in about five, five, 10 minutes. I think he's going to jump on. He's going to call in. Okay. Well, my question for bear, I have two questions. First, you know, we, we're always waiting. I get all the keys. So I'm doing the pre-order stuff. What, what takes a long, you know, we, we just want those ease. Well, I think first off, man, it's just, I think it's just the, it's just the demand. I think, um, our quantities have picked up. So I think it's slowed down a little bit, you know, as far as production. Um, and, um, that's, that's pretty much it. Production is just taking a little bit longer than it normally does. And that's kind of our charter in 2000 and 2012 is to kind of shorten that window, uh, by a big margin, you know, so we know we understand that's probably one of our biggest issues is our timeframe. So. If I could add to that too, one thing a lot of people don't understand is that when you're dealing with these manufacturers overseas, there's so many variables. In the last six months, there's been a huge gasoline shortage in Pakistan. And a lot of these factories run on generators. So they're having to cut the amount of power that they have every day, which doesn't allow them to have the output that they used to have. Combine that with the recent cotton shortages, and it's just getting harder and harder to get geese. Yeah. And I think, um, you know, Scott, Scott, you hit it right on the nail. You know, there's a bunch of, there's a bunch of stuff that happens overseas that, that the manufacturers, we have no control of, you know, and, and we are the manufacturers as far as like representing them. And we don't want to, you know, make excuses or anything. You, you, uh, answer my question for sure though. Okay, cool, man. Hey, thanks for listening out in Texas. Okay. Got one more question. My next question, you know, you guys, the motto is rebel against the mainstream. And, uh, to me, that causes some confusion because you guys are such mainstream faggots that I just wonder, isn't it a little ironic? All right. A little ironic. Hater nation. That's a hater douche. Gotta love it. Gotta love it. That guy's sounding, must've been, there's only two things that come out of Texas. All right. Hey, I'm just quoting movies over here. No, but, but you know what? If you're, if you're bringing attention, you know, there's always going to be haters. And, uh, you know what? I'll give you guys credit. Cause I don't look, you got, you know, 14,000 likes on your, on your Facebook page, right? And you get diehard fans that love you guys. And you always have one or two guys. It's upset, right? Hey, but, but Scotty, Scotty explained it pretty well. Right. And if they can understand that, then, you know, but love it or hate it. You know, you know, that guy's got, you know, that guy's got, got one of your geese and he wants more, whether, you know, he's going to say that or not. He, he wants your product. Don't worry. We got your IP address, buddy. I mean, he, he helped, you know, he helped pay some, you know, he helped, he helped contribute to the paycheck. So, no, I mean, like, uh, I probably, you know, I, I'm not sure if on Scotty's side, if he's had, you know, when, when Lucky was blowing up, you know, I mean, I'm pretty sure he had people that were hating on all the stuff that he was doing, you know, even though he was doing something completely different in an industry that's never been done, you know, but. So what do you think about that, Scotty? Oh, I think we, I'm sorry. Did we drop them too? Uh, might've. Oh man. If we dropped you, dropped you Scotty, sorry about that. We just had to get rid of that douchebag. It was a fake guy from Texas. Yeah. But I mean, yeah, I mean, we, you know, we try and make every, we try and make everybody happy, you know, but for the most part, um, you know, we can't make, I think we got Scotty back. You're back on Scotty. I'm back. Yeah. I got cut off. Yeah. Sorry about that. We just had to drop someone. If I can just say, I think that's the one thing that we always comes up in conversation. We have a meeting for the bear probably like once a month, you know, cause we work really close in selling a lot of his products. So we're always kind of coming up with a strategy to, uh, you know, to, to get people the product that they need. Um, but it's a matter of trying to please as many people as possible. And that's extremely difficult to do. And anything that we do that we think is a perfect solution, always going to, you know, upset somebody. Um, you would never have, you'll never, any business, you would never have a hundred percent customer satisfaction, right? I mean, we, we can just try and we do that every day. And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's very stressful. Like, like even your business, right? You get a guy who's like, goes to Budo videos and be, and says like, why can't I get it tomorrow? And you're like, uh, tomorrow's Sunday, dude. Yeah. It's like, I don't want to work. I don't control the UPS truck. We deal with a lot of that stuff, you know, it's a society, you know, everyone now it's, you know, I want it now. You know, there's the option to overnight, you know, a lot of places everywhere, you know, you go to Amazon, it's not in people or just that's, you know, that's the society now. There's not a lot of patients. Exactly. But another thing too, is that, uh, I always want to say is that, you know, we're, jujitsu is still pretty, a small, it's still a small sport. It's not as big as I think a lot of people think it is, you know? And, um, I think, I think Vince, you know, and on the matter, I think they deserve a lot of credit because they've helped build the sport. They really support the sport. They sponsor a lot of guys are doing stuff constantly for the sport. They're not just sitting on just collect, you know, selling geese and making a ton of money. You know, a lot of that money that he's making is going out to, you know, helping sponsor events, sponsoring athletes. And, you know, like I said, we were just in Guam and there was so many guys, purple belts and blue belts that were like, yeah, sure. It was my sponsor. You know, you know, I think there's a lot to be said about that. There are a lot of companies that are, there are a lot of companies that are supporting the sport in that way. You know? Oh, we got Steve from find me clothing online. You there, Steve? What up? What up? What up? Hey, Steve, how you doing, bud? Good, man. Just calling in and tell you guys digging the show. You guys doing a great job, bro. Right on. Appreciate it. Thanks, man. Yeah. We, yes, sir. I said, yes, sir. How, how are them fights last night? How are them fights over at Hollywood park? Hollywood park was Friday night, Friday night, man. They were great. It was packed. Uh, Tony from Sparks. I'm trying a great event, man. You guys have to come out to the next event. See when we can get you guys out there, maybe broadcast live for one of the events, you know? Sounds good, man. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Just let me know what you guys are. You know, I'll give you, I'll email you guys a list of the, um, events we got coming up and, you know, pick and choose. And I'm sure that, you know, the, uh, promoters would love to have you guys. Nice. All right, man. We appreciate that. Yeah. Appreciate it, Steve. No problem, guys. I was calling to give you guys a quick shout out, give you, give you guys a quick, uh, you know, show some support. Yeah. Shout out. You guys do a lot for the sport, man. And, uh, you know, people need to start giving you guys recognition. Thanks, man. Hey, shout out to Sharu. Oh, Sharu's right here. Maybe they should shout out to Sharu. Right now, she's putting dinner on. All right. You know? I know. Look at, uh, Sharu's going to take over and get their own show now, too. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Wife alert. Yeah. The girls are, the girls are going to gang up on her. Exactly. Sharu said she's down. All right, man. Appreciate the, appreciate the love, man. No problem, fellas. Enjoy the rest of the show, man. I'll talk to you guys soon. All right. Thanks. All right. Later. Later. Oh, Steve, fight me, fight me clothing. Hey, Scott, are you there? Yes, sir. Yeah. Hey, yes, sir. Before, before you got cut off, I was just talking about, uh, like, you know, with the brand, when you started, you know, you, you try and appease a lot of people, but at the same time, you know, when you grow and you're trying to do something different, sometimes you, you know, you might not make everybody happy. And I said, when you first started lucky, you probably weren't getting, you're probably getting a ton of great feedback, but you weren't probably getting all positive feedback, you know, on your side. Yeah. No, yeah, definitely not. I mean, you can't make everybody happy. Oh, well, you just gotta, you know, try to, try to work with everybody you can. Once your pants rip or something like that, all you can do is just, you know, do your best to back up your product and either give people their money back or give them what they want. You know, it's not easy. It's not, I mean, it's a fine line. I know you guys have to walk. Cause I see people complaining about stuff all the time. Oh, my pants, right? Yeah. So, well, you know what they say, you know, if you, if someone's unhappy, they're going to tell 10 people, you know, if they're happy, they probably tell one person. So I try not to, I don't read too much of that internet form stuff. There's so many, so much of it is just haters, you know, lying and stuff. There's been so many people that, you know, have tried to return counterfeit lucky geese. Wow. Really? Like that. And it's just like, how do you know they're counterfeit? They spelled the lucky wrong. Oh, there's been some really bad ones, man. There has been, I feel really bad for a while. There was a bunch of counterfeit ones on eBay and I felt bad for people that were getting fake ones for Christmas. And, and I had a guy return a black fake one and one sleeve was four inches longer than the other sleeve on A4. And I was like, Hey, you know, I would fix this, but I didn't make this gee, you know, sorry, he got ripped off, but you should be like, Hey, you should work on your defense a little. Stop letting them pull one arm all the time. Yeah, we, we got, we got, we got one counterfeit. And that's like, I'm like, when I talk to me and Scott, you always talk all the time. I say, Hey man, I'm, I'm feeling good. We're catching up to lucky a little bit, you know? And, and Scott, he's been having these problems for a long time. So you had a counterfeit too. Some of your keys on eBay though, man, holy mackerel, like four or $500. Oh guys, actually look at two. Um, Kyle's on the line. You're on the line with this Kyle. You said you're on the line Kyle. There he is. Well, Kyle, we can hear you. You want me to text you? Oh, cool. No, no, I can hear you. Hey Kyle, welcome to the show, buddy. Sorry to keep you waiting. No, no problem. I can't hear much. Like, uh, I, I think maybe, uh, the call is a little down, but you're coming in good. We can hear you. We can hear you, Kyle. Okay. Sounds good. Sounds good. Hey, since we have you on the phone, let's talk about all the steroid stuff. Okay. Is this, is this live or are you guys there? Yeah, we are live. Super live. Oh, we're live. Okay. Yeah. Do you want to say hi to anybody first? Hey everybody. Hi. Let me name some people here now. Okay. I'm kidding. Hey, I know, uh, you know, I know, uh, you're pretty good friends with bear from show your role. And so, um, you know, he's sitting here with us, but by the way, I like your DVD set too. All right. Shameless plug. No, thank you. Thank you. But Hey, I know you're a big proponent of this whole steroid thing. And I know, uh, I know you're, I know you've, you've caught a lot of heat for it too, though, but what's your take on that stuff? Uh, what is my take on this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Still the same. Like, so, uh, in my opinion, the problem is the steroids, you know, it's, um, because a lot of people are taking because other people is also taking, you know, and, uh, people will just say, you know, since everybody's taking, why don't you take, because, you know, in my opinion, it has a way more issues for me, like way more bad issues than good issues, you know, like in the, maybe right now would be awesome, but in the long run, the steroids would just, you know, make me, would just make me a worse, you know, you can see the, the people that took steroids and how many surgeries they went through in the, in the longterm, you know? So, um, I believe, you know, and besides that, there are also a lot of people that, you know, uh, um, um, have, have like, have more issues than, than just, just someone else. So I don't know if I'm one of them, you know, or not, you know, I just know that, that, uh, for you and a lot of people, uh, you know, I, I, I, I have like have more issues than, than just, just someone else. So I don't know if I'm one of them, you know, or not, you know, I just know that, that for you and a lot of people are doing and that's pushing to other people. So when my students, you know, uh, start growing on the, to just the sports side and, and they, uh, look up to some people, they will be like, you know, everybody does it, you know, why am I not going to do it? So I have to explain to them, you know, that there's more bad issues than, than good issues. But some, some people don't understand, you know, and it's just becoming, you know, more and more people using steroids, you know, less people doing, you know, what you just was about, which is like, you know, a stronger and, and, and there's a product because that's what you're supposed to be able to be, you know, the, the, the, the, like, I just want to say, I just love, you know, and it's just being the opposite, you know, people are just trying to get stronger. Like I see so many people, so many people saying to me, like, man, I just lost, you know, because I'm not strong enough. So, no, you're not strong enough. You, because you were, you weren't good enough, you know, because you were better than the guy, you know, he might be stronger than you, you know, but you know, you can be more technical than him. You know, he might be stronger than you, but you might be faster than him. He might be faster than you. You might be more, you know, you just need to, you know, Oh, did we lose a thought there? Man, you, Kyle, are you there? I'm here. Oh, Scott is there. Well, Kyle, man, you just, Kyle probably smashed his phone with technique. That's what happened right there. You just gotta be more like Kyle. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder how many times, how many times a day does that do practice? You know, Bear? I don't know. I know, like, I know he just like, sometimes he trains hard and sometimes he doesn't, he still like kills people. I just don't even understand that. Yeah. It's, it's, it's pretty amazing to see him in action. He's a really great teacher too. Yeah. Yeah. Taking one of his classes is amazing. He's, he's extremely intelligent. He knows the sport really, really well. He knows the rules really, really well. Even, even his DVDs are really good for explaining, you know, I'm, I'm sure that's how you guys got started, but you watch some DVDs and you're like, Oh dude, what are you, what are you talking about? Right? Like, and the guy does a really good job of explaining stuff. He does. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I mean, not, not standing from like Damien Maya, but you know, to me it kind of dragged on a bit, you know? Hey Scott, are you trained at all? Yeah. I've been trying to get back on the mat. I had a pretty serious back surgery almost two years ago, so it's really limited my mobility and stuff, but I've been training with Nino, uh, off and on. I can get one or two days a week and sometimes three days a week and, and not be in pain. So I'm easing my way back in. Hello? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, Kyle's back. Hey, we're back Kyle. Hey, yeah. I think I talk too much. So you guys hanged up on me. No, I just told everybody that you just crushed your phone with technique. Yeah. Hey, since we got you on the line, man, how, how did you get hooked up with bear? Um, yeah. So there is a, is a very good friends with, with Jake, you know, and, uh, you know, uh, I really liked Jake and, uh, I saw that, you know, how he's, uh, such a good, you know, such a person and, you know, how, how much good things he's doing for the sport, you know? So, uh, you know, it's all about the connections as well, you know, because, uh, when you go to the gym, I'm not just teaching, you know, I'm making new friends and, and, you know, I, I connected with, with bear. I think, you know, I think that, that's a great thing. Uh, Dave, how, uh, you know, how, how many times a week you practice? So I was just curious on, uh, on what you're, you know, especially that when the big tournaments come up, how many times a week you practice? Yeah. So like, uh, I used to, I used to train like, uh, you know, so many times a day, maybe, maybe, uh, three times a day, you know, uh, an hour training, otherwise my body wouldn't hold, but I would try on training as, as many times as possible, like three, four times a day, you know, sometimes two times a day, you know, just for like 30 minutes, you know, just so my heart is always pumped, you know, you know, because I fight in a Jiu-Jitsu, in a Jiu-Jitsu tournament, it's, uh, a little bit different, you know, you compete and then you wait, you know, 15 minutes so your body is cold, you know, so I try to, to practice many times a day to get used to, you know, cold and hot, you know, so I try to train as much as I can, but last year I couldn't train much, I actually think that, you know, besides, besides the month of May that I trained for the world, I, you know, I, I trained so little that it was close to none, you know, I, I actually, my friends, you know, and training partners were joking with me that I competed more than I, than I trained in, in 2011. Wow. Yeah, so drilling is important. No, for sure, but it's not, it's not just drilling because people think that drilling, drilling, you know, you, you get a move and drill it 50 times and, you know, and that's it. You drill, you're done, you know, you, you should, you know, study the position, you know, before drilling, you know, find the right tune and then drill the position. Once you, once you know the position is working, you should drill. You should drill the things that works for you and not the things that, that, you know, someone just taught you, you know, you, you go with, you know, you go with the first in this studying part, you know, the studying is as important, if not more important than, than, than drilling part, you know, if like people, people ask me all the time this, you know, and say, oh man, you got your black belt in three years, you know, that was so fast, but like, you know, like if I, if I were a white belt today, if I just started, I think I maybe would get my, my, you know, if I put as much dedication as I did when I was a white belt, I think I maybe would be a black belt even faster because there's so much information, so much information, so much information, so much information, so many good DVDs, so many information out for free, you know, that you would, you know, it's easier to learn now. If you really want to learn, you can do it, you know, you can be a very good black belt really soon, you know, there's too much out there. Yeah, there is a lot of information as opposed to, you know, a few years back, but it seems like there's a lot of good stuff out there. So you, you got any new DVDs coming out? Yeah, I have a new DVD coming out, it's about modern Jiu Jitsu, you know, how, you know, I'm starting to get into it, I'm starting to get into it, I'm starting to get into it, I'm starting to get into it, you know, I'm starting with the fundamentals first. It's a little long series because I wanted to show at least like 10 moves from each position to show how Jiu Jitsu has evolved, you know, like I don't think anything is wrong, you know, because even the technique they say, oh that won't work, it might work because Jiu Jitsu is so hard to explain how, you know, how the things are, you know, that everything can work. But I believe that there is a better technique, you know, technique today than there was in the past and the fundamentals in the special has changed so much and most of the stuff that you used to do before has too many counters now. So I wanted to show the public, you know, how the leverage implies with the fundamentals from before and how it changed so much, you know, the moves that I showed most of them I have done in competition with, you know, even with bigger opponents, you know, so I think it's going to be a very good series, like almost like revolutionary series, you know. All right. We get that on Budo videos when it comes out? Yeah, I think I hope so. I hope so too. Hey, Kyle, I have a question for you. In your opinion, if you're using 10 old school techniques or basic techniques versus a guy that's using 10 new school or, you know, more modern techniques, who do you think wins? Someone that is what? Is using old techniques? Or, you know, more basic techniques, stuff that, you know, that you're not used to. So, I think that's a good question. I think that's a good question. I think that's a good question. I think that's a good question. Stuff that, you know, that, that, like the basic armbar, basic guard pass. That's what you're, that's what you're using as opposed to someone that's learning, you know, the cool. The new technique. I think, I think you, you need to, you need to do both, you know. But like people say, oh, you know, Roger Gracie, he only do the basic and he always win. Yeah, but he also trains with people that just don't do the basics. He knows, he knows, he knows the modern stuff, you know, and he has a, and he chose to do the basic most of the times. Because Roger, Roger doesn't do only the basic. And Roger, the way he does stuff, it's not, it's not like people see at the gym, you know. Sometimes it's even hard for him to explain because he can't even see what he's doing, you know. So it's, it's very, you know, I like to play it in slow motion and break down everything because, you know, sometimes it's hard for, even for him to see. But he knows what he's doing. You know, he knows what the guy is doing. So he can play the way he wants because he knows how to counter. You know, and then he can play with his basic. But if, if you play only with the, only with the basics against someone that is playing only with the new stuff, you know, it's hard to say who is going to win because both of them need to counter both of the situations, you know, and you need to know, to learn how to counter the basic stuff and you need to learn how to counter the, you know, the more advanced ones. That was an awesome answer, right? You guys went so much. I don't even understand. I don't understand. I don't think we were expecting that. Such a great answer. That's why. That's why I hit the cash register. We totally agree with you though. That's a good answer though. I was going to start naming people here or not. What kind of people you want to name? The ones that are doing steroids. Hey, you go. I'll go first. Cyborg. Okay. You're next. I picked the easy one. The man or the woman. Yeah. Okay. I'll go with cyborg too. I think it's obvious. Oh, and don't forget King Mo Lawler. He just got caught. Yeah. He just got caught. King Mo. A lot of times it's pretty obvious, even in tournament and stuff. You know, some people. Anybody you want to name Kyle? No, I, I, I heard that the people from show your role is doing a lot right there. Yeah. The only, the only thing he, the only thing from, the only thing I show your role is getting juices. I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, but you could even be competing in the finals, but you're just so well composed. And you don't seem nervous at all, and you're just playing. It almost looks like you're just kind of playing jiu-jitsu like you are in the academy. How did your game develop like that? And how do you compete at a high level with very little coaching at your side, at the side of the mat? Yeah, like, because, like, in the beginning, you know, when I was training in Brazil, it was not always that I had someone there with me, you know. Most of the time, you know, I would go with the tournaments by myself. I just had the dedication to come and compete at everything. And I would just make friends, you know, at the gymnasium and stuff, you know. And I think, like, by doing so, so many times, you get used to not have anyone there with you. But, you know, like, the coaching, to be honest, like, I love to coach my students, but I think, like, most of the times, it's not even as good. You need to coach, like, and say what the student should do because unless it's something really necessary, because otherwise, your opponent is also not knowing what's going on, you know. But I believe the coach is very good to the motivation part, you know, to tell how the student trained, to say how the student has progressed through the years. You know, it's important to motivate the student and to show him that he doesn't need that victory to prove to him that he's improving, you know. But he needs to compete, you know. And I believe that the coach is very good to keep improving and keep getting better because the competition is what is going to, you know, show you what you need to learn more, what you're doing right, you know. You know, it's good to have those nerves. But I definitely have a lot of nerves when I'm competing, you know. It doesn't matter who it is, you know. It might be the best in the world. It might be someone that I have beaten 10 times before, but you always have those nerves. But I believe, you know, I believe when I go compete, I think to myself, and I think, like, the guy is more nervous than I am, you know. No matter, you know, who he is, I believe, I think, like, you know, even especially when the guy is bigger, I keep in my, I put in my head that the guy, you know, is more nervous than me because he can't lose to a small guy, you know. And I just go and compete. But the nervous is always on me. It's much harder to compete than train, you know. Of course, every single person trains much better than they compete, you know. Like, of course, there's the ones that fight, you know, and that's why they... they compete better because they're fighting in a jiu-jitsu competition, you know, but the ones that are actually competing and doing the technique, you know, and stuff like that, they definitely get nervous, you know. It's completely natural, and that's, you know, one of the beauties of the competition scene. Kyle, I had a question. Is there... Are you still doing the rooster division? Is that still your weight class? Yeah, I think this year, because I got... Since I got hurt last year, I think this year I'm going to do roostering in every single competition, you know. I normally weigh around 130, and, you know, it's just a three-pound cut, but if I'm training, like, for example, when I train for the Worlds, normally I don't even have to cut, you know. I might cut, like, three, two pounds, you know, but some... Like, last year, I didn't even have to cut in the day of, you know. So I think I'm going to start doing rooster because everybody loses weight to compete, you know. I fight with 130. You know, sometimes... Like, last 10Ms, last 10Ms that I competed, I had 133 pounds with my heavy gi and my shoes on, you know. Like, and I saw people wearing, like, a light gi, wearing... Weighing 141, you know, like, straight. You know, almost everybody is 141 with a light gi, and I have my heavy gi, you know, with my shoes on with 133. So it's kind of unfair for me to, like, to compete with such... With many... You know, I don't mind competing with someone much bigger than me, but I think it's not being good to my body to have so many competitions since I compete, you know, like, 15 times, you know, sometimes 20 times a year, you know. So for me, it's better to go sometimes lighter, you know, and preserve my body since I'm not being able to train as hard as before, you know, I'm not getting any younger, you know. And do you find that you have enough competitors in that division? Yeah. So, of course, I'm not going to do the rooster division when there's two people, you know, but, for example, the Europeans now, the only reason I thought about doing the rooster is because I saw the list of the Europeans, and there is, like, six people competing at the rooster weight, and there are six people competing at the light feather, you know. So why am I going to do the light feather while the other one has as many competitors as the rooster division? Pan Ams, you know, if I compete at the Pan Ams, I believe I will do the rooster because... you know, there will be as many people or more than the Europeans, so I will at least do three fights, you know. Three fights, you know, it's pretty good, you know. Of course, doing four, you know, like last year, is much better, you know. I'd rather to have more fights. Actually, when there is a bracket, I have many times asked to do an extra fight, you know, and that's why sometimes you see me doing an extra fight, you know, because I actually rather to do that extra fight. You know, to get my adrenaline away, you know, and try to, you know, to learn as much more because, you know, besides winning, you know, I want to be there to compete, you know. So I want to have as many matches as possible. Nice. Nice. Well, it looks like we're going to be close to wrapping up, Kyle. I really appreciate you calling in. Thank you. I think we still got... Is Scotty still on the phone? Yes, I am. Man, dude, you're the man, Scotty. Thank you, Scotty. And, Kyle, feel free to call the show anytime. Thank you. Or if you're ever in the area, we'd love to have you in the studio as well. Yeah. No, for sure. Thank you so much for the call. You know, thanks for all the guys, you know, listening this. Thanks, Sheryl Rowe, you know, for all the things that they are doing for the sport. You know, I really appreciate everything. And where can we find you? If someone's looking to find you, what's your website or your Facebook? Yeah, so my website is kyleterra.com. And if you, you know, if you want to inquire any stuff, you can contact me. I'm going to send you a link to the website. And if you have any questions, you guys have to me. Anyone can always contact us on info at kyleterra.com. And, you know, we'll be glad to attend everybody, you know, the best way we can. And you got a school up in San Jose, right? Yeah, yeah. I have a school in San Jose. It's growing a lot, you know, a lot of very good people. You know, it's... I really like this school because it's getting a very family, you know, family-friendly experience. And I think it's a great place to be. Yeah. And I think it's a great place to be. Yeah. And I think it's a great place to be. Yeah. And I think it's a great place to be. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. man. Before we go, we wanted to see can you plug your website? Let everyone know where they can find you as well? Sure. The websites are onthemap.com, myluckyyee.com, and otmfightshops.com. Alright. Hey, what's your first shop? Which is the first one you opened up, just out of curiosity? The first one we opened up was in Hermosa Beach. Hermosa Beach. Is that still around? Yep. Well, we moved to Torrance, but yeah, it's still around. Oh, it is. Cool. That's one of our old training partners. Marlene used to work there. Yeah. Oh, no, I'm sorry. That was Huntington Beach. Yeah. Worked in Huntington. Yeah, right. Didn't you guys have somebody that worked over in the Corona shop, too? Sean or somebody? No, I know my buddy Gabriel works at one in Torrance. Yeah, Gabe's working in Torrance. He works tonight. Every jiu-jitsu guy's worked at Scotty's shop one time and another, right, Scotty? A lot of them have, yep. Hey, make sure Gabriel walks around with a helmet on in the store. Yeah, no kidding. Knucklehead. Man, his head was bad. Dude, it was really bad. You know, what's funny is if it wasn't for social media, half the people wouldn't even know what happened to the poor guy, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Crazy stuff. Crazy stuff, man. Thanks for having me on, guys. Hey, thanks for calling in. Thank you. Feel free to call or come by the show anytime. Okay, we'll check you out soon. Thank you. All right. See you, Scotty. All right, Scotty. Man, that was good. Yeah. All right, guys. We missed you guys because you guys were stuck in traffic. Yeah, but... That's true, man. I apologize. At least we're celebrating. We brought beer. There you go. Real, like Bear says, real beer. How'd you get that name? How'd you get the name Bear? My parents gave it to me. Oh, they did? Okay. I had no choice. I tried to lose it and I just got stuck with it. My parents gave it to me. Okay. You didn't give yourself the nickname. That'd be kind of cheesy, right? That'd be kind of cool, though. Uh-oh. Wait a minute. What about Budo Dave? What's that? How'd I get Budo Dave? Yeah. That's interesting. I was actually doing a lot of photography. I was working for, I think, Gracie Magazine shooting the UFC events. Oh, okay. And a lot of the guys that I would actually go up to the event with, all of them were named Dave. It was literally one time we went up, there was four of us. Everyone turns up. Yeah. It's like your phone rings, everyone checks it, right? Yeah. So someone said, hey, Dave's coming. Like, which Dave? Like, you know, Budo Dave, the guy from Budo. And so since then, I was called Budo Dave. And then when we started producing Jake's show, I'm like, why don't we just call you Budo Jake? And it stuck, and that's it. Really not that exciting. It's kind of cool, right? And you and Jake related, or just friends? No, we've been friends since high school. I haven't known him for 20 plus years. That's kind of cool, though. It's really cool, yeah. We have a really interesting dynamic. We get along really, really well. We're really different in a lot of ways, but we actually, you know, we work off each other's strengths and weaknesses. Kind of like you guys. Kind of. You know, we're like twins. Like the show Twins. Yeah, I'm brothers from different mothers. I'm Arnold. I'm just kidding. I'm just saying, I'll be back. But I just know, like, you have the same kind of vibe that Bear has, pretty laid back. It's kind of cool. I like that. Even like I always talk about, you go to different gyms and you walk in there and the vibe's always different. I know you go to your place and the vibe's laid back, and it's kind of like a flowing type deal. You go to some places and you just rip your head off. Freaking people trying to, like, you don't deserve that belt. I was in Guam, like, you know, it was just like real laid back. My side would be kind of biased, you know. It's probably better to get Dave's because he just came from there, you know. That was a very interesting experience. You know, they even joke about it amongst themselves. They call it, when you ask what time zone they're on, they say, like, tomorrow's standard time. Yeah, we know. We experienced it. Yeah, but I think that's kind of what jiu-jitsu is, you know. Jiu-jitsu should be kind of fun and laid back and, you know, you should take it seriously, but you should be having a good time at the same time. And the guys on the island, like, they really do. They're really passionate about what they do, but they don't, like, you know, they're not out to kill each other. They really help each other out. There's, like, a great, like, family vibe. I mean, the whole island is just moves at a pace that I just wasn't used to, you know. I think that's how the sport is in its pure form. And then when you get it in this country, and then you mix in all the wrestlers, and then that's where, you know, that's where it changes. Come on, dude. This guy. He just got hit by a bus. Well, I think in the U.S. there's, uh, there's just more, you know, people are expecting, they expect more structure, you know. I've never trained in Brazil, but I imagine things just kind of move at a different pace as well. Yeah, that's how they coined the term Brazilian time. It's like that on the island, too. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it. I mean, when I was there, like, it was hard for me to kind of slow down, but, like I said, we were there shooting an episode of Rolled Up, and I had a lot of things that I needed to get done. The people there were awesome. You know, they treated us so well. It's a great place to go, especially if you love jiu-jitsu. It's amazing how much jiu-jitsu there is on that island. You know, it's this tiny little rock in the middle of, like, nobody knows where. But the people there are more passionate jiu-jitsu than I've ever seen. Yeah, it's really something, a really special place. But it comes down to what you said earlier. It's like, I think because, like, obviously, Rich and I do jiu-jitsu, and you guys do jiu-jitsu and sell some stuff. It's like, we see it as a larger group, but it's really small within us if you take us out. There's not really that many BJJ guys, you know. But how cool is it to be, like, you know, somewhere on the other side of the world, and you meet somebody who you've never really met before? Yeah, you get a good brotherhood, right? Yeah, and they understand those exact same concepts. It's our own little universe. It's our own little universe. Yeah, it's really cool. You feel so welcome being so far away from home. Yeah, and those names that are, like, you know, so popular in our sport, you know, when you say Marcelo Garcia, you know, and when those names come up and everything, you know, to the outside world, you tell your co-workers, they're like, who? But amongst the people that know, you know. Exactly. It's a great thing to find those people that you identify with, you know, that train. We're part of this really, really, really cool circle called Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, you know. There's only a few of us that know about it, and for the rest of the other people that don't know about it, you know, they're missing out on a really good thing. Yeah. Very true. If there was some advice I could give to someone, if you're ever going to travel, just always take your gi, because you'll never know where you're going to end up and what kind of things you're going to learn and who you're going to meet. Take two. Take two, yeah. Especially if it's in a really humid climate, right? Yeah. Super lightweight, dry weave, Shan Wow Gi. And hang it up to dry after you've used it. I learned that. Why? What'd you do? You don't put it in your trunk. I took two huge bags with me, right? They were loaded, most of them mostly with camera equipment. I literally took by myself six cameras to do this shoot. The rest was just like basically swim trunks. I couldn't fit my gi, so I borrowed, what gi did I borrow? It was the Yang, right? Trained one day, and I just left it in a pile in my hotel room, because the humidity there, it stayed damp for about seven days. Wow. That's disgusting. Yeah. Right, well, we're about to close out the show. Before we leave, let's throw out everybody's website and let everyone know where we can find you. Go for it. Yeah, just check out showyourworld.com or follow us on Facebook or Instagram, Twitter, whatever it is, but just check us out on showyourworld.com. All right, and Dave? And buddhavideos.com and buddhavideos.com slash online. We're also on Facebook and Twitter, and look out for the Guam episode of Rolled Up, which will hit, probably in about two weeks. Where does that come, on your website or something? It's at buddhavideos.com slash online. Oh, it is? Okay, cool. So it's episode 31. All right, guys, thank you very much for coming in on a Sunday. I know it's a little rough to get out on the weekend, but we appreciate you, and open door anytime you guys ever want to come back, and you got anything else going on, we'd love to have you in. Next time, we'll tell you the show starts at 4.30. Let's make sure we exit on some reggae music. All right, guys. Hold on, hold on. All right. We'll play some music. This is the only reggae jam I have. But he's going to play something. There you go. All right, everyone, thanks for tuning in, and thanks for tuning in to Matt Time Radio. ... ... ... ... ... ...