Good evening. Usually I talk with you from my office in the West Wing of the White House, but tonight there's something special to talk about, and I've asked someone very special to join me. Nancy and I are here in the West Hall of the White House, and around us are the rooms in which we live. It's the home you've provided for us, of which we merely have temporary custody. Nancy's joining me because the message this evening is not my message, but ours. Despite our best efforts, shortages of marijuana are now being reported. From the early days of our administration, Nancy has been using marijuana on a daily basis, and her personal observations and efforts have given her such dramatic insights that I wanted her to share them with you this evening. Nancy? Thank you. For five years, I've been traveling across the country, learning and listening, and one of the most hopeful signs I've seen is this new drug, crack. Each time I meet with someone new, I yearn to find a way to help them. I yearn to find a way to help share the message that drugs open your eyes to life, to see it in the vivid colors that God gave us as a precious gift to his children, to enjoy life to the fullest, and to make it count. So to my young friends out there, life can be great. And when it comes to drugs and alcohol, there's a big, wonderful world out there for you. It belongs to you. Now! Now Now I hunger for the worms crawling in her feet I caress her body I can feel the burn She's got a chunky cut And making my head squirm Oh, I wanna squeeze your rotten tits Your curdled cut is my cock so fucking hard Chunky cut Ow! Chunky cut Ow! I can taste the bile On her rancid lips I can feel the maggots Riding on my dick Oh, she drives me wild With that ass and kiss I need a pretty cut, oh yeah I need a chunky slit Chunky cut Ow! Chunky cut Chunky fucking cut I think you can see why Nancy has been such a positive influence on all that we're trying to do. The job ahead of us is very clear. Nancy's personal crusade to expand the use of smokeable cocaine, otherwise known as crack, should become our national crusade I'm a fucking psycho I'm a fucking psycho I'm a fucking psycho I'm a fucking psycho Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey Our young people are helping us lead the way. Not long ago in Oakland, California, I was asked by a group of children what to do if they were offered drugs. Say yes, I answered. Soon after that, those children in Oakland formed a just say yes club. And now, I'm a fucking psycho There are over 10,000 such clubs all over the country. Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music But as far as the rocks are green, the dark of the light makes you insane So we draw a dark line, so we see the spirit of death Drugs help us create love and hope and trust and confidence And cocaine makes me happy Snotty whiskey, drinking cocaine Snotty whiskey, drinking cocaine Got this feeling Gonna drive that car insane You're like a mad river, baby You're all over town You're like a mad river, baby You're all over town All over town All over town I may be confused But you know I sure ain't down I'm a fast-moving leader I can show you around I've got so much cocaine Ain't never coming down Snotty whiskey, drinking cocaine Got this feeling Gonna drive that girl insane We'll be right back. We'll be right back. I'm gonna drive that girl insane. Or cunt. Then please refrain from listening any further. It's time for some real music. It's showtime. We have seen imitators. We've also seen duplicators. But now, it's time for the originators. Los Angeles. Los Angeles. And the rest of the world. Super Tuesday 2. Don't worry. Don't panic. Jenner Foster's not gonna be here talking to us about political stuff. You're listening to the very manic Jimmy Cab Show. I am your host, Jimmy Cabs. Broadcasting live from beautiful downtown gentrified Los Angeles. Los Johnny, welcome back. Nice to see you there. It's good to be back. Thank you very much. Super Tuesday. Super Tuesday. Yeah. Very super. Yeah. You know, right now, I can't help it. I mean, how can you not get caught up in the hoopla that is our political process right now? It is fucking hilarious. The whole world is laughing. Slash terrifying. The whole world is horrified and laughing at us. But here's the deal. The seriousness of the situation is this. Regardless of what your political beliefs are or what party you belong to, what's going on right now, in the world and in the United States is a travesty. I'm glad that finally Flint, Michigan is on the map. I'm glad that they're finally talking about what's going on over there. Just picture. By the way, their primary is right now. Right now. Right now it's payback. I'm gonna tell you, right? Just picture this. This is happening here in the United States of America. Not in Africa. Not in fucking Watermelon Frank's hometown. Not in Guatemala. Okay. Right here. Not in Somalia. Right here. You go to your faucet. You open your faucet and what is supposed to be water is coming out, but it's not. It's highly contaminated, polluted, cancerous water for you to drink, to bathe in, to cook with. In the United States, Los Angeles. Well, and not only that, if you want to get more specific. No. Here in Los Angeles. Scott Carlson. I'm calling. Yeah. I'm sure you have stories from your family. I know. I mean, you gotta think of what's going on here in Los Angeles with the stuff that's going on in, or supposedly finished in Porter Ranch with the gas leaks. Well, not only that, for those of you, because we're supposed to think outside the box of Los Angeles, but here in Los Angeles, you know, Porter Ranch is on the media, you know, with the whole gas leaks and stuff like that, but no one is talking about the contamination of Huntington Park, Maywood, Bell. Bell Gardens, because of- Southgate. Well, Southgate deserves to be contaminated. Fuck it, ugly there. The point is, is contamination going around, and what I find interesting is these politicians are seizing the moment to appeal to you, to really go out of their way to let you know how they're going to take care of you. And- We're taking care of it right now. I have come out and said, and people think that I'm joking. I have come out and said, you know what, I can't vote for Hillary. Bernie, even though his message, I somewhat agree, I just, I don't have the confidence in him. Even though apparently right now he's winning. Yeah. It's going to be a very interesting fall we're going to have in terms of when the dust settles and how and when the money flows. Exactly. What's interesting though is on the- Yeah. What's interesting is on the conservative right side, I have come out and said I am endorsing Trump. Why am I endorsing Trump? Yes, I want to know why you're endorsing Trump. Let's just fucking, let's just burn it all down. Let's go down in flames. The reality is, is if it's Hillary or Trump, I'd rather vote for Trump because even though there are so ... Hey, Chester, are you listening to what I'm saying over there? Yeah, I actually agree with you. You might as well just fucking vote for Trump. Right? Let's just fucking vote for Trump. And let's just end the world. Let's just end the world. Let's just let it fucking burn. Let's just go down in flames because at least the guy ... Look, I know this doesn't make any sense. I mean, make the completion to where we are going in terms of the idiocracy thing. It's happening. It's happening. Right. I mean, but- It's like 60% done. That's frightening. I know that people right now, some of you are like already getting ready to get on the keyboard and start sending me messages. Please don't. And the reason is, is look, don't give me the hogwash about the racism statements and anti-Mexican or immigrant and- Sexist. The color that is favored here in this country is green, all right? Will he change that? No. Is he going to build the wall? Maybe. Is he going to throw everybody out? No. You could relax fucking Pirata Arturo and all the other fucking- Yeah, dude, where am I going to get food in the corner? Nothing is going to get done. And if you thought the Obama administration didn't complete anything, that's the whole story. Trust me, if he gets elected, nothing will get done except possibly the elimination of our enemies. Oh, fingers crossed. Possibly the reinstatement of C-12 operations with black sites that won't have to be going under the so-called amendments and protocols to try to hide what is necessary to do. Plus, I think he really is seriously going to go after these unfair business practices that we partake with. China, with the Japans, with the Mexicos. I think he'll really try as hard to go after. But if you're asking me, am I serious about my endorsement from Trump, I'm saying yeah. Because at the end of it all, it's all fucked up. Let's just end it. Let's just end it all. Let's just go with a big bang. Chester, why don't you tell our audience how they could listen to this very manic. And depressive Jimmy Cab show. So just go to iTunes. Install iTunes on your machine. Go to iTunes and search for the very manic Jimmy Cab show. Go to WePlayRadio.com. WePlayRadio. WePlayRadio.com has the live view and you can download all the shows there as well. You see all of our handsome mugs behind you. That's right. And please subscribe so that way it looks like I actually do something during the day. Yeah, so I mean to kind of, you know, this first chunk of song. Kind of plays into your whole thing of burn it all to hell. Because we started the song set with necrophil. Come on. We also dedicated favorites. We also dedicated that set to the very lovely Nancy Reagan. Ah, Nancy. End of an era. End of an era. Just say no. I delivered to her house once. I didn't actually go inside, but I saw it. It's one of those ridiculously huge mansions in Bel Air. You know, what's interesting is, you know how I always support. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. so worship the Ronald Reagan establishment. Dude, that guy is a fucking icon. With the death of Nancy Reagan, it's officially over. Yeah. Over. It's done. I mean, how many fucking airports... I find that kind of sad. I find that kind of sad because... Counselor, you're on a... Dude. Have you been eating your kale? Listen, she had the power of pussy, my friend. She had the power. She really had the power of pussy. You don't... I'm not going to dispute that at all. Did you see how she had the Big Gipper? You know, she... The proof was there. She was the one during the 80s that was whispering in his ear, bomb Iraq. Bomb Iran, I should say. Sell those weapons. I had heard on another radio show that she was known in Hollywood for giving really good blowjobs. That's actually very true, and I can corroborate that. Look, you're offending our guests here. How dare you? I've read that myself, and yeah. Bottom line is it's an end of an era, and I really do feel that with the death of Nancy Reagan, it just really puts it on a plateau that whole decade of any form of... Just say no. Well, you know that never really worked. Just say no, and yet, you know, the CIA was importing all kinds of cocaine. Yeah, meanwhile, you know, just say no to kids. Into your parents' neighborhoods, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Like, hey, Ronnie, flood the streets with crack. All right. All right, let's move it along here. So, yeah, we played the necrophil junkie cunt from the record Devil's Breath. What a wonderful fucking tribute you are. There you go, Nancy. Ronald and Nancy Reagan. After that, we heard Whiskey, Coke, and Sluts from Massachusetts' own anal cunt. Fucking A, Seth Putnam. Rest in peace, man. And also, happy International Women's Day. After that, we heard Repulsion, Driven to Insanity from their classic record, Horrified, and then we ended with a very interesting song, counselor, Pat Travers, Snorting Whiskey is a record cracking. That's right, that's right. Snorting Whiskey. If I could still snort a lot of things, I would be doing it, but unfortunately, I can't. So, young kids, uh... Sipping some of that Tennessee tea, man. Yeah, make sure you change your party oil, and after 30, stop. Okay, this is interesting. I want to talk about my guests for a minute here. We're going to introduce them in a bit, but let me just say this. Uh, talking about Nancy Reagan and that whole era, you were a little young. I remember it. I was young. There was a pivotal time in Los Angeles of the heavy metal era, where there was just so many incredible fucking bands. I would say, like, from 19... I mean, I know there was a scene before 1980, but I would say, like, from 1980 to 85. That's about right. I mean, you can even stretch that to 86. Alright, let's stretch it to 86. So many incredible bands. A lot of bands that, at that time, you gotta remember, the record industry had a lot of money at that time and a lot of power. So many local Los Angeles bands that were just eclectic. Each band just bringing it every night. I remember every fucking night I was taking the shitty RTD. Not the MTA. RTD bus. Rough, tough, and dangerous. To certain parts of Hollywood that were very shady back then. Not gentrified. No. No. Just so many fucking great LA bands that, uh, you know... I mean, that's the thing about LA that, again, we don't get credit for. No, we don't. In the sense that... In the sense that we had, and I think we still have, a fucking amazing music scene. Not only with thrash and metal, but punk rock. I mean, popular music as we know it, Los Angeles is top three in terms of exporting. Absolutely. And we don't get the respect that we deserve. Los Angeles has never gotten the respect that you deserve. One of the things that drives me nuts is that when you hear about extreme music, or underground music, or even heavy metal, what are we known as? We're known as the laughing stock of the whole United States because we had a movement in time with the so-called glam rock scene. But before that, and after that, and even during that, so many fucking amazing bands. Why am I talking about this epic era? It's because a lot of those bands became nothing. Poof. They wore their little ride and then, like, real life, it ended. And they had to go about into their own lives. Very few musicians have stuck with becoming what I would like to say, true artists, which is when you're writing music, you're playing music, you're doing it for the love of it. My guests today are two of these musicians that I would say were part of that scene. Let me introduce Rob Alaniz and Steve Gaines of Anger is Art. Welcome to the very manic Jimmy Cash show. Thank you for having us. Would you agree that at that time there were so many incredible bands because you were part of that era, and I believe you were part of that too, correct? Maybe at the tail end of it, yeah. Were you, like, roading back then? Yeah. Okay. But you were still there. I was part of it. You got to see the slutty girls at Gazzari's and the whiskey and all that shit. You got to see all those guys get all that tail, man. Well, they hung on until the 90s, though, the slutty girls. Would you agree, though, with my assessment that Los Angeles has never gotten the credit that it should in regards to music genres and the bands that really paved the way? I agree, but I think it's also coming around now, finally, you know, 25, 30 years after the fact, people are finally looking back and realizing, wow, there was a lot that did happen as a result of Los Angeles. One of my favorite arguments is that they talk about the Big Four of thrash. You know, three of those Big Four came from Los Angeles. One of the biggest arguments I have is who designated them the Big Four? Aside from just, you know, success. Donald Trump. We're here to talk to the two members of Angers. We're going to talk about your new record that's coming out that I really, really like, by the way. Thank you. Very great record. We're also going to talk about, here locally in Los Angeles, there's going to be a great show happening Saturday, which we're going to be celebrating Rob Elenese's 50th birthday, but also we're going to be celebrating the only percussionist in Los Angeles who is humble, sincere, dedicated, and not a fucking dick. You've been dealing with a lot of musicians. Los Johnny, you're a percussionist yourself. You know you could be a moody fucker at this. I totally admit to that. Normally, it's the lead vocalist that gets the title of being a fucking cocksucker and a dick, but aren't drummers prima donnas, Steve? Dude, being a lead vocalist, yes, you're right. Those are the two worst, and we're the ones that are across the table from you. Everybody thinks they're Neil Peart. Everybody thinks they're going to change the world. Yeah, you're right. Hey, I cannot disagree at all. Right. Punk rock element. There's the kids in the punk rock scene that they think fucking, you know, they're the next, you know, punk rock Dave Lombardo, whatever. I tuned to Open E just like, you know, Velvet Underground, dude. Well, we're all here, Rob. We lured you here. We lured you here because I want to give you number one props for what you've been doing, especially the fact that you're 50. My God. Not only do you play in so many bands, which, by the way, none of them are making any money. No. But you're doing it for the love, and I say that with all due respect. Absolutely. But I wish you were making the dough. So do I. Yeah, so do I. I'd like to borrow a hundred bucks from you right now. But not only are you very talented, not only are you overrated, but you're a decent, beautiful human being. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. And you know that I am seriously an antisocial fucker. I do. Okay? Have Rob pose, Mike. And the fact that you and I are able to not only appreciate music, but the fact that you stay humble, means a lot to me. So we're going to be celebrating you today and also your new record. Let's get into some music here. You're listening to the very manic Jimmy Cab Show. Anger is Art is my guest. If you want to call in, Chester, what's the number to call in? And by the way, can you instruct the audience on how to call in? Because I always keep getting these messages that people call, and they don't know how to get on the air. All right. So you dial 1-800-893-9562. You'll hear the prompt to go to the studio. By pressing 1, that means hit number 1 on your phone, and then you will go to the studio and be on the air. Can you believe that we can explain that? Wow. Can you believe that Trump's going to possibly win the first number? Now you see why. Dial the 10-digit number and then hit number 1. Yeah. All right. Load your bongs. Let's get some music going on. You're listening to the very manic Jimmy Cab Show. Hit it, Chester. Hit it. Hit it. Hit it. Hit it. And leave the night Struggling for love Leave the night Struggling for love So I walk to the ground This world makes us sick And so make me out of night Break the spell of the night Leave the night Struggling for love Leave the night Struggling for love Leave the night Regalize Strike them better Regalize Strike them better Regalize Strike them better Regalize Strike them better Regalize Strike them better Regalize Strike them better Regalize Strike them better Regalize Strike them better Regalize Strike them better Regalize We'll be right back. Children of the grave Children of the grave Children of the grave Children of the grave Children of the grave Pens Pens Pens Children of the brave Children of the brave Children of the brave Children of the brave Children of the rich In Los Angeles, a killer the police are calling the Hillside Strangler has murdered ten young women and left their bodies on the hillsides along the highways. Today, the police found another. Number 11. They think. Now it's so easy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. They were like kids the world over. Nice kids. Ordinary kids. Full of fun and imagination. If you push them over, they'll roll to their feet. But if you push them to far... They'll kill you. Well, fuck it, everyone. No, yeah, we're not going to say shit. I'm hearing voices. We'll be right back. I know a guy who's got five different things to do. Death was dead, but they would never show. They loved him. What? Yeah. What? Try to love, but you don't want to cry. So let it all show. Try to do the best you can. Watch death with bodies and death with spirit. Death with kids, but they would never show. My best friend, he will be another man. Deathless. Deathless. And now, here with an unlimited supply of misinformation is Mr. Noto. Alright. You know, during the music block there, we were talking about, uh, we're talking about Betsy Bitch. Because, uh, as you know, and I watched three grown men quiver at the mere mention of her name. Let me just say this real quick because I got to get it out of my system. When I'm around Betsy Bitch, as I shared with you, I instantly, uh, regress into being that awkward, very creepy, shy, 1984 adolescent kid that I, that exists within me. Like, I've seen her out in public numerous times, you know, and you would think, you know, she's a big figure, right? Like, you know, 45-year-old man, you know. 30 years later. 30 years later. I mean, she's still very, very beautiful, extremely fucking gorgeous. But I mean, you know, it's not like I'm masturbating her fucking album cover anymore like I did in 83, 84, you know? But it's funny. It's, it's funny how, seriously, I, I, seriously, like, she has a power over you guys, man. Dude, the last time I saw her, like, I was telling these guys, I had to walk away because, you know, I was talking to Bill Montoyer, and obviously Bill Montoyer is someone respectable. Yeah. And if you're associating with an individual like that, it just, you just assume, okay, well, he's gonna be interacting with someone of his caliber, correct? So she approaches, and dude, I, I started the body language, started kicking in, the pre-cum started rolling down my legs. I mean, I had to get the fuck out of there. But all right. Hey. How you doing? I gotta go, Bill. I gotta go. You gotta go to the bathroom? Betsy Bits will be playing Saturday. This segues into your show, right? Betsy Bits will be playing Saturday. The true queen of the show. The true queen of heavy metal. Yes. Fuck all this other bullshit. The true queen of heavy metal. She'll be playing with so many other bands. Rob, why don't you tell us who's playing your birthday Kill Rob Fest show? Okay. Kill Rob. We got Vomitron. We've got- Vomitron? Who the fuck is that? Vomitron is a band that I did with Bob Rangel, who actually wrote the lyrics for Annihilation from People Dead. Boy, you're really going in the closet to just- Oh yeah, totally. Okay, so look, I gotta take my glasses off. Oh yeah. Okay. Go deep, ladies and gentlemen. Go deep. Okay, so Vomitron, Anger Is Art, Faos, Noctuary, Winterthrall, Rise. Wow, Rise too? That bitch, yeah. And my cover bands, Haterade and Tub. Okay, so all these bands are gonna be playing. We're gonna be celebrating Rob's 50th birthday, but also the fact that Rob has been a very prominent musician in Los Angeles who is not a dick. He's not a fucking asshole. And his dedication to playing live music. Before that, before we get into what we play real quick, talk to me about the new record. I really like this new Anger Is Art record. It comes out March 11th on Old School Metal Records? Correct. March 11th. Talk to me about this album and please, please give me the pronunciation of your album before I butcher it. He's handing it off to me. Yes. Ad Mortem Festinamus. Nice. Now that, is that in regards to the 13th Century Symphony? Actually, yes it is. Hey, Jimmy Cavs with the W2Juice. It's on my notes. It's on my notes. Interesting title. Why did you name your album that? I was reading a, you were talking politics earlier. I was reading a political article and it got into the comments section where everybody talked about, kind of like you were talking about. I mean, the world is hurtling into death and that's the direct translation. We're hurrying into death and you look around you and you just realize people aren't paying attention to reality. People don't care. They just don't care. In the meantime, you're just a little bit more of a fan of the world. I mean, I mean, I mean, I don't care. In the meantime, there's a joke I live by. I'm just praying for that sweet meteor of death. You know, just let the meteor hit us and let it all go away. It's nice to know I'm not the only one that shares that sentiment. Because I mean, come on, you know, I tried to save the world once and it was exhausting. So I'm just gonna wait for the rock to get here and then it's all over. You know, I don't want, I don't really want to bum anybody out, but here's the deal. You know, the more that you have the fuck it attitude, the more that you choose to focus on TMZ or whatever it is, or whatever other fucking, the more you focus on stars, movie actors and their drama, and you really disregard what's happening in the world or what's happening in your own backyard. Yes. One day you're gonna get in the shower and you're gonna have fucking gray black water coming out of that shower head. And when you get to work, you're gonna be fucking, guess what? Your job's been shipped out to Guatemala. And you know what? No more health insurance. And next, you know, your house is gonna be fucking gone. Yeah. It's really, it really is. You can only tell somebody, hey, don't touch that stove. It's hot. It's time to let some people get burned. Yeah, fuck them, man. Let it all, let's all go down in flames. Let them go up in flames. Anger is Art. That's a very interesting title. But before we get into this, what did we hear last week? Ah, yes. We ended that particular set with Poison Idea. Death with Kids from their classic record, Kings of Punk. Before that, we heard Macabre from Chicago. Chicago. Great city. Great city, great pizza, questionably. I don't wanna get into that argument. With their song Hillside Strangler, which you pointed out earlier, Counselor, this is the anniversary of... This is the anniversary of a victim that was kidnapped in Highland Park and they found her in our... Our neck of the woods, El Sereno. Our neck of the woods, El Sereno, which again, never gets mentioned. Bastards. Never gets mentioned. Found her at Hades for those of you who haven't heard that in a minute. Found her right there. Dumped her off at a good old spot. Damn. Where's the PCP? Just kidding. Before that, we heard Child Molesters. Hey, let's keep the theme going on. I'm the Hillside Strangler from their seven-inch, the classic. And before that, we heard Hollywood Squares, Hillside Strangler from their single. And we started the set with Dorset, England's own electric wizard, legalized drugs and murder. Why not? We're on the fucking path, ladies and gentlemen. That's right. You know, when you formed Anger's Art, this was a band that you formed on your own, correct, Scott? I mean, Scott? I'm Scott. Steve. This is a band that you formed after you left Abitur and your other endeavors, correct? Yeah, a bunch of bands that I was playing in, they all stopped working within about a two or three week period and I had a bunch of songs and I said, well, I don't know what I'm going to do next. I just want to record them and pretty much just stop playing and that's going to be the end of that. So I did that recording with myself playing everything in a drum machine and it took off. Suddenly, you know, we were shipping a few thousand of them out. This is back when people still bought CDs. Wow. Right? Right. And it just went from there and went from strength to strength and before I knew it, we were getting picked up and band members coming in and there was more demand to keep recording and it's kind of like you say, when you stop giving a damn, all of a sudden all the good stuff happens, which is, you know, screw it, I've had enough of this, I'm done, let me ask you this because this has always fascinated, this has always fascinated me personally of musicians of your era. I would say you were the tail end, you and musicians of your peer were at the tail end of that whole riding the wave of when record companies had the power, had the money and from one moment you were a struggling musician and then bam, if you got that support, you're off going on the tours or what have you. You were also at the tail end with those musicians who really all assumed that you were going to get that gravy. Oh sure, oh hell yes. You also were at the tail end of before or before the seriousness of the AIDS epidemic. So you guys were all, not you per se, because I know that you've been involved in a relationship with your lovely wife, but at that era, it was fucking Caligula, man. It was. It was Caligula, right? All you guys were musicians, you were getting praise, you were getting the added, you were getting all that praise, you were getting all that tail and you were hoping for that big fat check and then all of a sudden you were like, oh, I'm going to get that gravy. And then you were like, I'm going to get that gravy. And then you got that big fat check and then reality kicked in. Yeah. You yourself must relate to the fact that it takes a certain breed of musicians to keep going after that severe letdown and smack of reality in the face. Yeah. I lived in the backseat of a 1979 Ford Fairmont for three weeks. And this is when Abitur was peaking and I had nothing, didn't have a dime to my name and it was all, oh, we're going to go on tour, we're going to make it, man. We got a record out and everything's going to happen. Look what's happening and bang, it was over just like that. And I blame myself because I, the fact is, I mean, the band was changing, going towards a different direction. And instead of working with it, I fought against it and started drinking way too much and became a real first class asshole. But let me ask you this. Yeah. And without, you know, getting into a therapy session with you. Sure. One of the things that I deal with as an adult now, as my audience knows, I'm very honest with what my revelations and stuff. And the reason why I'm very honest with it is because I think number one, the most important thing is the more that you let go of this baggage, the more that you opened up and just say, you know what, it's done, I can't do nothing about it. The more that you're able to move forward, but also you can see the growth. I still feel like a dipshit from 1983, 84. Everybody was getting fucking laid. I didn't fit into those cool clothes that you guys wore. I wasn't in a band. Neither did we. Dudes with makeup were getting fucking all kinds of tail. You know what I mean? I still have that mental stigma. And, I can't imagine, I'm glad you're laughing, darling. I'll be choking you later. And I mean that with love. She's laughing with you. I can't imagine if I was in a band like yourself. And again, here in Los Angeles, as I mentioned before, it's touched on lightly in history, but it's never really given the true credit and the true recognition that it deserves. From 80 to 85, 86, as Los Johnny pointed out, amazing bands, even the ones that don't, even the ones that didn't make it, were still amazing bands. I could give you a list. And then they just went into obscurity. How do you deal with having an audience, having people constantly kissing your ass, having chicks wanting to be with you, thinking you're going to be at that magnitude of the rock stardom, and then next thing you know, you're at Ralph's. You're in a warehouse. How do you deal with that? And let me add to this. How do you keep that ambition to keep writing and playing and doing the music thing, knowing that real life is real life? See, now these are good questions. This is the kind of stuff I love talking about. I'm not as stupid as people think I am. No, it's a hint to everybody else we talk to. Plus, we keep it real. We keep it real. Yeah. How do you deal with that? Seriously. It's interesting, but I'll tell you what, at the time it happened to me, it was probably the best thing that ever happened. If I would have hung out in that environment with everybody kissing my ass- You'd be Chris Holmes. Or worse, I would be just an arrogant, the kind of person you just would not want to be around. It teaches you humility. I remember, because at the same time that all happened, I lost a job too, had to go move back in with the folks and all of that stuff. It was just, everything was spinning out of control. And I remember reading this article in Reader's Digest about some guy who was an alcoholic. Eh, spoke to me. And it said, he's given all his excuses. You know, I used to be this. I used to be that. Well, he ended up working his way all the way down to becoming a dishwasher at a restaurant. And he couldn't show up because he was getting drunk. And the owner of the restaurant says, I don't care what you used to be. I'm not going to do that. I'm paying you to wash dishes. Now shut up and wash the dishes. That's reality right there. And it's like, bam. That was the best lesson I ever could have learned in my life. It taught me, okay, I'm going to have to work. That was in John Cyrus, was it? No, John owned a restaurant? Not washing dishes. Not washing dishes. Nevermind, nevermind. All comments expressed are by Jimmy Cavs alone. There you go. But by the same token though, there've been many times I've tried to stop and you can't. It just, songs just continue to fall out of the head. And I can't. I can't stop writing. See, and this is what I respect about musicians like yourselves, because for the last, I would say the last 10, 15 years, stretching it there, let's just say 10 years, there's been this whole wave of resurgence. First of all, the shit's never gone away. Okay? It's never gone away. It's always been there. One of the things that I want to express is, as I mentioned before, I really, really like this record. Let me try to pronunciate. Ad mortem festinamos. Festinamos. Festinamos. One of the things that I like is when I listen to it, when I listen to this record, for me, at 45 years of age, integrity means a lot. When I listen to something and I hear that they're trying to portray themselves or trying to pigeonhole themselves or trying to piggyback on what's happening or trying to resurrect something that is far gone, it's out the window. Right. It's out the window. I'd say the last 10 years, there's been so many bands, new and old, that were pivotal in the early stage of heavy metal, not only here in Los Angeles, globally, that they blew their money, they didn't budget properly, they thought it was going to last forever. It's a cash grab. Yeah. And now they're all back. These kids that are, this new demographic of hunger, these kids that want to live that era, they're throwing their money. They don't give a fuck. They'll buy anything. And some of these musicians are coming back, cashing in, resurrecting these songs, whether it's partially because they want to do it or because they need the money to pay off their home or whatever. But there's no integrity. There's no integrity. Right. When I listen to this record, one of the things that I like, and by the way, let me say this, I am very picky at what I like and what I endorse. You know this firsthand, Rob. Yes. What I like about this record is that it's very raw. It's very real. And with all due respect, it's by older motherfuckers like yourselves. So my question to both of you is, where does this energy, creative energy come from? And how do you keep yourself in this album not being pigeonholed into being predictable like every other band? Ooh, ooh, ooh. It's just really honest. I think that's the thing. That's the thing with the record is it's us. It's a great answer. It's us. It's really honest. I mean, it's not trying to be anybody. We're just trying to be ourselves. You know what I mean? We've done all that other bullshit already. We've done the fucking thrash, all that stuff. We still have it, obviously. It's still there. But it's more, um, we're pleasing ourselves. You know what I mean? We're not trying to, like, please anybody. I mean, it really comes back to being artists. Yes. Being real. Doing what you like. There's no, I mean, I mean, to be blunt, it's just like there's no payoff for it other than this is what we've done. Right. That's the payoff in itself. Look what we've done. Look what we still can do all these years later. You know what I like about this record too? It has a very take it or leave it attitude. Fuck it. You like it or fuck you. Exactly. Love that. Yeah. Love that. Because that's true rock and roll spirit there. Regardless of what the genres are called now, it's what it is. It's a rock and roll rebellious, here it is, take it or leave it. Right. Do you agree with that? I agree with it. Thank you. How do you feel, or to answer my question, how do you keep yourself creative without being repetitive or mundane or predictable? I have always challenged myself. And this is what I'm starting to deal with now, because we're starting to read the reviews and hear folks like- Stay away from reviews, dude. No, no, no, no. Good and bad. I know. But you're starting to hear people say, and it's like, okay, people pick up on this and they seem to really like it. Now, what are we going to do so that we don't rest on our laurels next time if we get a next time? Just look at your water bill. Yeah. That'll get you angry and creative. There you go. No, you look at the last record, for example, and why everybody really seemed to like it. And it got great reviews, sold really well and all that good stuff. But I listened to it and I think, okay, if I was to get hit by a bus tomorrow and this was my last body of work, how am I going to feel about that knowing this on my gravestone was, that was the last record? It's like, no. So we got to take that step and go a step further. And then you go back to being a 45 year old. I'm a 51 year old, right? And do you still have something to prove? Is there still gas in the tank? Does the car still start? Do you still want to get out and drive or do you just want to coast? Because if we just wanted to coast, we just continue, we got plenty of songs. We can just go out and keep milking it. Yeah. But it's like, no, I want to keep pushing that envelope. I want to keep trying. It's like, what can we do? What can we take on the last records? Each record has been a step, but I want to take a giant step and do something that if God forbid, I get hit by a bus, it's like, okay, that was a good way to go. Now I got to look ahead to 2018 or whenever it's going to be and think, oh crap, what are we doing next? If that day comes. But you know what the beauty of it is, is that where we're at now, and especially as we were talking about current events and political events, what we're at now is, you can actually just be happy with what you're doing. Yeah. Because it's real. For me, one of the true wealths, one of the most richest things in life is being real with yourself and true. So why don't we listen to some new Anger's Art here. Let's listen to a track off the new record. Can you please help me here with this pronunciation? I can't see if I can even say it. Ad mortem festinamus. All right, Chester, take it away. Now Now Now! It's still too late From a womb like a goon But we do a matter of offices A strong one to the last He's in sips Be quick, but do not run Your pace has brought you Through the dust Like insects, man became one Foul Into the mouth of hell Death will show no one response He's strong I am free Who will get the victory or stay? Delirious with acrimony Life a perfect ceremony Bleeding carcass of a dog Suffering in many pieces Fragments of a few pieces The answer is jumped Before the blue Recipe for disaster Legend of omega fester Success be measured in the ash Fragments of blood Suffered the lash Pens Pens Pens The arid waste It was the earth that burned beneath The light of the last sun It disappears Without a trace But I'm meant to last The past before the future just History of future premature You'll be the other human race Discrimination to your face My digital asses are lurking somewhere Deep in the manure Manure Feel like you're deep Forget the access Bringing closest out of sight To join the non-soaking is bad It raises harm against the tide Shaking fish and cars of sky False fever heads don't mark in white Less if the question meant a thing Nature is never being washed Pens Pens Pens In the sky, denied, in the flood I'm only meant to live It is for others yet to die I'm only meant to live We are react to death We drain the truth in full But I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm Now I am so frustrated by this world This is it, my passion's only show The road to safety is like the safety of all you know I will live I will I'm waiting for the next big wave This is it, forever falling down Forever I can feel my own passion Running from life to another life I don't care how I'm falling I'm waiting for the next big wave Forever Running up the I'm falling down Forever I can feel I can feel I can feel I'm a teacher Self-sacrificed, vicious, by our laws By the will, through my own power Showing the truth and following the life around Now guitar solo solo guitar solo Light and darkness I reap from my tongue Leading brothers away, away guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo Fuck the chance of misdirection I know all your friends Thank you for your life Reflection All of your friends Whoa guitar solo guitar solo Cut me back to you Wrap it up Turn your back on me guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo I don't want... Alright, mics are on. That was a short song. You know what? Fuck it, let's just say it. We were talking about when you used to play with Despise You. Okay. One of the things that I liked about you playing in Despise You is the fact that you stood apart. You know, to say the least. These guys are all like, you know, super power violence guys. They got kids jumping all over them and then it's like the Fleetwood Mac guy right there. That's the best. But wow. I've never been compared to Nick Fleetwood. That's amazing. Are you saying you didn't look like him? Never. I've never been compared to him but that's awesome, I think. Yeah, dude. Here you are fucking bashing it out. Alright. We're going to talk about strippers and Portland. Last beats too but real quick. Lost Johnny, what did we hear? We did hear Despise You who Rob has played with who I've seen him play with myself. You Can't Fix Me, Don't Trip, What's Up, Englewood from their record On and On. Before that we heard Noctuary, Funeral, Ceremony from their record For Salvation. Another great band that you play with. Another awesome band. And another band that Rob has played. This is like the Rob block. It is? Yeah. Rob, you know what? I mean, it's Rob's world, bro. If I was a homosexual, I would, I would offer you a certain sexual, that's how great you are as a percussionist. This is Rob's world. But we're heterosexual here so we'll just offer you a beer. We'll just offer you a beer instead. We're just the drum techs in Rob's world. Alright. Before that we heard Winter Thrall, Adorn and Scarce from their record, from the Bulldozer comp. I want to bring up something that we talked about earlier was seeing Winter Thrall at Cheetah's which is a local bikini, it's not a strip bar, it's a bikini. It's a bar. How the fuck did you play? That was super weird. You know what? That was a very awkward gig. Yeah. We just did it because we were like, holy shit, we're going to play a stupid fucking strip bar. You know, I never thought that we would actually do it but yeah, the guy Roy got us to do it. How awkward was that seeing strippers trying to dance all sexy to like Winter Thrall? It was kind of strange because I mean, I had that experience before because when I was in Creek in Knoxbury, we played in Portland at a strip bar and we had the same shit. They were trying to dance to Blast Beats. It was ridiculous. It was funny because there was this, I'm standing there watching this super awkward gig like, okay, Steve Nelson's up there doing his thing and then Rob's up there doing his thing. Rob's out there mashing it, the smell of chlamydia everywhere. Exactly. It's like, you can smell the leather and the perfume and the beer and the alcohol. It was so, it was a sensory overload but I was, I was, I was standing in front of a dancer, a worker, a worker. I tapped her on the shoulder. I go, how are you going to dance to this? I mean, how are you going to earn enough money for your master's degree? Exactly. Because this next song is 12 minutes long. You're going to have, you're going to be on deck for a while and, you know, she said it in the most awesome stripper way. She's like, I just imagined the song that I want to hear when I'm up there. Oh my God. Never mind that there's Steve Nelson in his screen. Crazy face screaming at you, you know. With two fucking marshals and Rob doing his thing. So yeah, I thought that was pretty funny. All right. What was the Anger's Art song? We heard We Hurry Into Death from their record, the new one that you're pointing up on the camera right there. Ad Mortem Vestinamus. Hey, you got it. Look at that. This is coming out March 11th on Old School. What a great name for a record company. Old School Heavy Metal Records, correct? Or Old School Metal Records. Old School Metal Records. March 11th. Make sure you pick this up. Also, Steve, we're asking people to find out about this record as far as where they can get it. Oh, you know what? A very sure way of doing it is make contact with us. You can find us on Facebook, find us on ReRubNation and we've been known to put a few of these things out courtesy of the U.S. Mail. Hey, who did the cover art? U.S. Mail. What's that? Who did the cover art? Who did the cover art? Chester wants to know. That's an artist named Brzezinski, I think. And as a matter of fact, uh, Winterthral actually used one of his artworks. So he basically borrowed it. You borrowed it? We borrowed it. He can have it back if he wants, but I think he's dead from a long time ago. Is Steve kicking you under the table right now? Yeah, but, uh, yeah, that's, uh, Brzezinski. Off the mic, dude. Let's change the subject real quick. Winterthral, what is up with this band? Because all these bands that you're rec-directing for the Kill Rob Fest, by the way, why don't you give us the lineup to that? And we're going to be giving away tickets in a bit. Okay, so we got Tub, we got Noctuary, we got Rise, we got Bitch, we got Winterthral, we got Faos, we got Anger is Art, we got Vomitron, and we got Haterade. Where is the show? It's at a place called Love Hate in, uh, I guess Monterey Park, right? It's actually, yeah, it actually is Monterey Park, but it's, it's like, like within a, within half a block of the L.A. border, so. Let me ask you this, Steve, when he mentions all these bands, do you cringe? Do you say fuck? No, the only thing I want Rob to do right now is explain the acronym for Tub, what it actually is. That's a legitimate question. Okay, well, what it was originally, I thought that was the nickname you had in elementary school. Right, yeah, you would have been right, yeah. Actually, no, it stands for The Ultimate Bar Band. Okay? I thought it was The Ultimate Boy Band. Yeah, that's, that's what it is now because I, I like that better. I like that a lot better, so. These are all bands that you invest your time in, Just, just cover band. That's a cover band and then Haterade's a cover band. Well, what, what kind of covers are we talking about? Haterade does, you know, your standard classic trash. Haterade songs. Yeah, Haterade, yeah, Haterade, songs you hate. You know, like Metallica, that kind of stuff. Tub does, it's pretty eclectic actually. We do the babies, we do like 70s rock. You do the babies? Oh, yeah. I love the babies. We do, we do stuff like that, so it's, it's pretty cool. I mean, I, I have a lot of fun doing that kind of stuff because it, it's stuff that I would not normally play. It's not fast. It's, you know what I mean? It's just fun. And it doesn't affect your duties with Anger's Art? Not at all. Well, I mean, it doesn't affect him, it doesn't affect his rehearsals, his, Well, yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't practice that often with these guys because they're, they're in other bands too, so it's kind of like, we're all busy. We get together once in a while just to do this kind of stuff, so it's just to have fun, basically. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound like an asshole or nothing, but let me ask you this, why? Why do you play, why do you play all these bands? Why not? Why not? Yeah, I guess. Do you like being busy? I do. I like playing drums the most, really. That's all it is. This goes into the next question we were talking about earlier, is that this show is going to be an endurance test. Yes. For, I mean, you're playing, what, five sets? Yeah, it's like, it's like six hours. You are also a percussionist and you have also toured and you've played extensive dates. I have. Tell me, isn't that pretty, a pretty grueling schedule? It is, it is a pretty, pretty grueling schedule. I mean, I can only do maybe two and a half hours of practice tops before everything starts, my feet hurt, my ass hurts, my hands hurt. Everything's just like, I'm fucking up. I can't do it. I just, that's my limit. How are you going to do that, Rob? I'm going to do it. I'm, you know, I know you're going to do it, but how? Great big bowl of Wheaties. Yeah, exactly that. Actually, no, it's partly because of the 50 year old thing. I want to prove to myself I can do it. One of those kinds of things. Yeah. So, you know, that's mainly the main reason. Yeah, man, dude, that takes a lot of stamina. Yeah. A lot. I commend you for that. You know what? I mean, it is, it is a great achievement to reach 50 and to still be playing in so many different bands, but also to have the love of music. Yeah. You know, that's all about that music. When people ask me, and I get asked a lot, especially, I mean, right now I'm fortunate to be with a young lady who doesn't bust my balls about my investment in music, but, I've been asked before, you know, why? Why are you into this? How old are you? When are you going to get over it? Right. And the only thing that I can say is it's a lifestyle. Yeah. It really is a lifestyle. And that's why I cherish such bands like yourselves and also those epic moments in time where we could go to a record store and lose ourselves in the journey of music and writing letters and going through to the post office, you know, before like these internet whiz kids that are now trying to tell me, you know, all that shit. But one of the things that's really most sincere and the most beautiful relationship on earth is the relationship with music. Because it really supersedes. I don't want to compare it to, obviously, I don't have children and I don't have a wife, but I don't want to compare it to that. But it's on that same- It's pretty fucking close. It is. It's on that same level because I got to tell you, if it wasn't for music and now Prozac, I probably would have fucking killed somebody. Prozac. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know- That's probably been the most definitive statement Jimmy Cavs has ever made. I don't want to get into- I don't want to get into a period in my life where I had a license to do certain things, but if it wasn't for music, I would have fucking killed somebody. You know? I mean, that's a safe statement for all of us. Every single person in this room. I would say so. But this is what's the most awesome thing is that even though this is a 21 and over show, Chris, the inspiration that you're giving these kids, the inspiration that you're showing these young motherfuckers who think they're the Neil Peart. There's only one Neil Peart, man. Well, you bring up the kids. These guys are going to be- They're dicks, by the way. They're going to be taking- No. You don't have to tell us twice. No, they're going to be taking this show on the road. Talk to me about Anger's Art tour dates coming up or dates that you have scheduled so far. Okay, well, we got a few dates coming up. First of all, there is Saturday night, of course, which is the Kill Rob show. It's the Kill Rob Fest. And for Anger's Art's part, you guys should know, we're playing a bunch of rare songs we haven't played in years or some songs we have never played before. We've never seen- That's this Saturday? Yeah, this Saturday. That's what we're doing special for this show. Rob handpicked the set. He says, we said, what do you want to do for your birthday, Rob? And you want to pick like an eclectic, off-the-wall set of stuff we never do. So that's what we're doing. And some of these have never even been played in the rehearsal room. Are you doing speed kills? No. Not that eclectic. That would have been great. I love that song too. Yeah, I agree. You know, a certain shark up there too, you know? Yes, exactly. He's rumored to be in the building. Yeah. Yeah, let's get him out there. Let's get him off the- Well, we're going to do our best. Yeah. There's going to be a lot of special guests by the way, so we'll see. So you're going to be playing eclectic, rare songs Saturday? On Saturday's show. Then on April 2nd, we're doing the official record release show where we're playing the majority of that album we can cram into a one-hour set time. Nice. And where's that going to be? That's going to be at Malone's House of Metal out in Santa Ana and playing with a bunch of good bands there as well. Ancient Spell, Resistance, Insecticide. The Insecticide. The Insecticide. From back in the day. Little Sherman? Yes. Oh, wow. You got it. So that's going to be- Still around. Still around, dude. Yeah. Then we're going to do the San Diego Metal Swap Meet. Love the Swap Meet. Yeah, we're going to do their after show because I think it's- Who was it that's playing? Exhumed is playing the actual Swap Meet. Swap Meet itself and then they're going over to the Till 2 Club and we're playing with, I forget how many other bands there are, but one of the bands is Grave Hill. Crap, a couple of other bands from San Diego whose names I'm forgetting right now. And Ruthless, who are some local guys from here in the LA area. I love what they're doing in San Diego with that Swap Meet thing. It's really, really cool. If only we could have that here in LA. No kidding. We never will, but if only we could. You know, but it makes it special. Let's go 100 miles south and go. I mean, it's not far for us. Let's just do it. That, and then let's see, we're going to be in Vegas on June 18th and then we're going to Chicago in August, August 19th, I believe it is. And then, God, who knows where from there. But starting to just rack up dates and pick up each market as we can. I don't know. Another thing that I like about what you guys are doing is you guys get up, you guys pack your bags, get in the van and you guys hit the road. You know, you guys tour extensively Europe as well. How does that demographic over there enjoy your music? Because Europe is a different market than the United States. Different environment. Different environment altogether too. Way different. I mean, it's... And I mean that in a positive way. Yeah, very much. It's receptive right off the bat. Supportive. Yeah. We've been around a number of different regions in Europe, but I think the region that really gets us the most is Belgium and Holland. Really? Excuse me, the Netherlands. Yeah, for whatever reason, that's where everything landed. Right along that border between the two countries is where the strongest fan base is. We can do seven, eight dates right there across the border and then swing over to Germany and do that. Does Germany kiss your ass with the whole Avatar thing? Oh, yeah. They live those 80s, dude. Oh, God, with the Avatar. They love that. It's 81 over there, like, hey, every day. With the Avatar thing, of course they do and say, hey, here's the new Anger's Art record. Does it bother you? Are you able to embrace your past or does it bother you? It doesn't bother me at all. Does it annoy you when you see musicians that are like, ugh, that was then, this is now. And you're like, you should be grateful that someone remembers you, right? Not really, because you can't... People are going to have the opinion. They're going to think of you what they think, or they're going to think of the music. You can't take it personal. They're going to think of the music what they think of the music and you can't influence them. It either grabs them or it doesn't. Yeah. That's a great attitude to have. And it's really, you know what, bottom line, especially in this day and age where there are so many quote unquote experts, the reality is, is the only expert that anything matters, it's yourself. Yeah. Fuck everybody else. You got to live with yourself. You got to live with what you did. Absolutely. Hey, man, if your name is on the marquee and people show up, that's a victory. True. Right. Good time. And if you're getting gas money and they're giving you a six pack, you're ahead of the game. Yeah. And you got a chick wanting to blow you, you're ahead of the game. A sack of potato chips. Not that that refers to you guys. I know you guys are very stable. You're already past a certain percentage. Let's see those tickets right there. All right. Chester, why don't you tell our audience how to properly call for these tickets that I'm about to give out to the Kill Rob Fest? It is 1-800-893-956-9000. 1-800-893-956-9000. 1-800-893-956-9000. Say that again, please, because some of them are probably packing a bowl as we speak. 1-800-893-956-9000. All right. We're going to play some more Anger's Art. Give us a call. And if you want a pair of tickets to go see Rob possibly have a coronary with one of his many bands, get back in there, Rob. Get in there. Yeah. Give us a call and we'll give you a pair of tickets to see. Hey, Rob, can we play earlier just with that in mind? Don't worry, Rob. I got you covered. I know CPR. I'll make sure to brush my tongue that evening. Okay, thanks. All right, Chester, take it away. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Our eclipses, our history You're the list to hide In the heights of the furious Monuments to honor Human bound guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo When the lights come down low It really drives me crazy When I start to show It gets me really high It gets my blood a-flowin' And I'm gonna kill it Now you watch Yeah, right from the start I love to play the cards I'm a bitch at heart And don't mess with me guitar solo I love to crack my wrist And see you bow before me I love to shake my hips And get you really horny Every song on my list Will make you all enjoy me Don't take your eyes off me I'm a type of bitch I can see you Stand right from my side guitar solo Just watch me now guitar solo Yeah guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Now the whole song Anger's Art. Their new album. This is your fifth, by the way. Number five, yeah. Fucking A, dude. Incredible. This is their fifth album and I'm going to try and pronounce this. Ad Mortem Festiv Namus. You got it. That's the one. Okay. This is a great record. True, raw, real deal. Old school. What I mean by old school, I'm not referring to your age. What I mean by old school is you put this on and you feel something. Nowadays, music doesn't make you feel anything. Yeah. Makes you want to throw it out the window. It's nice to have a band that's putting out music that really just gets the blood going and the fact that it's from sincere gents who are doing it because they love it, not because they're trying to be rock stars. That era is over. Thank you. It is. So please, those fuckers that saturate Nam and all, give it up. Just like Nancy Reagan, just give it up, man. Get rid of the headbands and the dreadlocks and just stop. Over. Nancy Reagan's dead and so is rock star shit. It's done. Let's move on, man. Yeah, let's move on. Let's just keep it real. Let's play some raw shit. Saturday, amazing bands are going to be playing at Love Hate. And as we mentioned before, it's also a celebration for Rob's birthday party. For his birthday, it's going to be a celebration to celebrate Rob and all the great bands that he plays with and all the bands that we could forget about. But anyway. You got to go to this show just to watch him go through this set and go, go through this night. I mean, fuck. You know what? You know what I love about this show is that you are going to finally be the sweatiest motherfucker in the place. You're right. Normally, I'm the sweatiest motherfucker. It doesn't take long for me to sweat, too. I'm going to be fucking melting that day, I'm sure. It'll be awesome. All right. Let's play one more song off the Anger's Arch and then we'll come back and we'll say farewell. Chester, hit it. Oh Lasting and people's wounded fire Who bowed before the rampant heart Who traded thought for reason and eat heart Then died in heaven's fever Left on the weak the blind A shadow of sight and out of time Broken spirits names erased Barely nameless With our face You're not You breathe between You gas You breathe upon Now shut up and join the dead So that this lost division Emotions waste into contention For half this death I've been still In the last we have a fair war Watch the changes Turn the glass The trash is turned The table's broken To the boot Under the gun I saw the seniors free And playing a brand in day The ruling crew The bestest man They praised the end But now we gotta turn So what's the point of failure The loss of victory The questions I built and we know Your glory has Contention paid The fate of our resistance A great balance and say It's our recall to arms The honor to Comprehensive service As all the graves are open Our cosmic grins in wait The world's waiting Excited for The feel of our fate As all the brains are drawn Over the thrones of blood The epiphone Extend all roads The nation's coming to charge! The world's greatest! The end was denied And what did so I need Have moved on to put you Never back and seed Forever lost and so We go it's found in life To us the funeral The future of mankind The shape of all things to come The shape of our failing reason The shape of all things to come The shape of our failing reason We give our soul away For what security Hopeless addiction To a death wish fantasy Oblivious delirious The smallest word Awake and sleeping Re-under with the undone The only thing we can do Is to keep our! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you there. We heard... Keeping it too honest on this. Yeah, exactly. We did hear a bitch song. That was pretty fucking cool. Right from the start, but I forgot to announce that. And we also heard another anger as art song, Tomb Word, from Ad Mortem Festinamus. And then we heard anger as art again, Unknowing the Dead. And then we heard Evil Dead. Did we hear Evil Dead? Yeah, we did. Annihilation of Civilization, man. Okay. Rumor has it that this Saturday you're supposed to have a special guest at the Kill Rob Fest, correct? I don't suppose you want to slip of the tongue mention who that is? Let's just say I won't confirm or deny. It's not going to be Johnny Cardenas, is it? Actually, yeah. He is going to be there. Great. It's your buddy, right? Awesome. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be Neil Turbin from Antwerp. He's actually going to play bass for Rice. Oh, is he? Yeah. He was in Rice back in the day. I'll make sure to miss that. Just kidding, just kidding. Okay. Okay, so this Saturday the Kill Rob Fest, as we mentioned before, so many great bands that Rob plays with. Make sure you come down and there is a cover, correct? Yeah, for general public it's five bucks at the door. Dude, five bucks? Five bucks for all that. Five big dollars. Five whole dollars. Five whole dollars. You're going to spend more than that on a beer. Exactly. Come on, Danny. They have dollar drinks. It's a bunch of stuff. It's cool. Sold and sold. Not only that, but like around 11, 12 o'clock there's a certain group of gals that get there that some of you young men will enjoy. It's going to be a great night. Come down, celebrate Rob's 50th birthday. And all the bands that he partakes. Let's talk about Anger's Art. March 11th. Old school metal? Records. Records. The fifth album from Anger's Art comes out. Why don't you tell us the name of this album, please? It's called Ad Mortem Festinamos. This is a great record. Make sure you pick it up. Make sure you see Anger's Art live this Saturday. Give us, again, the dates that you'll be playing soon. Well, this Saturday, of course, at the Kill Rob Fest at Love Hate. Then also on April 2nd at Malone's House of Mouths. Metal in Santa Ana. Record release show, correct? Record release show, that one. Then the San Diego Metal Swap Meet After Show at Till 2 Club in San Diego on May 7th. And then we're going to be in Vegas on June 18th at a place called The Dive Bar. What a great place. But actually, I saw photos. It's nice. Yeah, that's a great... The Dive Bar, that's where you want to see real, ugly, fucking raw metal. And that's what we're bringing. No disappointment there. And then heading off to Chicago in August and got some other dates and stuff. That'll work their way in too. And eventually, you'll get back to Europe, correct? That's the goal. Do you enjoy, do you guys enjoy going to Europe where they appreciate what you're doing? Not to say that in the United States you don't get appreciation. No, you know what? In Europe, it's a different energy. In here, people can see bands every night of the week, basically. There, it's actually an event. You know, people, especially like U.S. bands go over there, it's like, wow, you know, it's a big deal, you know. So it's great. Another thing I want to give a plug to, a region that's somewhat forgotten that we've actually made a home in is in Puerto Rico. In San Juan, Puerto Rico, we've actually been able to play out there a few times, made a lot of good friends out there. And surprising, you wouldn't think that it's there. Why isn't Puerto Rico a state yet? That's... Ask Donald Trump. You've built a following in a U.S. territory? Yeah. How did that happen? I don't even know. It has to do with a friend of mine who started with, well, a friend of ours, a guy named Robert Acevedo, who was from Puerto Rico. And he says, oh, you guys, you know, Abattoir, you have no idea how big the band was back in the day. Yeah, yeah, okay, fine. You know. So through him constantly talking, it was like, yeah, okay, well, we'll get out there one of these days. We went there three years, four years ago now already. My God. And we're thinking, okay, what's this going to be like? So as we're walking around, the people that brought us out there, we're walking through old San Juan. It's beautiful. And this car stops. I'll never forget this. This car stops. These guys, ah, get out, and they run and start hugging us and taking pictures. It's like, what? Guys. Guys. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. And the chicks couldn't care. You know, it's metal. Come on. Actually, you know what? I'm glad you brought that up because this segues into a great, a great fucking area of metal that no one gets, that doesn't get recognized. Have you guys gone into Mexico or Central or South America? Not yet. Because those are, those are prime markets now for heavy metal. And yet still, they don't go, they go unrecognized. Exactly. With the exception of Iron Maiden. They, they, they, they completely publicized, you know, how that territory. They make their love clear. It's funny. Iron Maiden and Morrissey are like, huge in Mexico. Morrissey. If there's a bill, I'd like to see it again. I know. I would pay to see that. Actually, what are you doing? So you, you haven't toured Mexico? In my other bands, I have. Okay. Evil Dead went over there and actually, Abattoir went over there when you were already out of the band. When I was already out of the band. Yeah, yeah. I was a roadie. Thanks for reminding, thanks for reminding, thanks for reminding, you know, Steve of that. Where does Scott come from? The Pete Klawhammer. Oh, there you go, Scott. That's what it is. No, but I actually went with Abattoir when they, when they toured and I was a drum roadie, so. You were a drum roadie? Yeah, I was a drum roadie for Abattoir. You had the sloppy seconds. No, no, no, no. Roadies, roadies get no love, dude. No, and even less spend, yeah. Right. Hey, do you want to meet Juan? Let me ask you this. This is one of the, the most interesting questions that I've always wanted, the most intriguing for me that I've always wanted to ask. I mean, this goes for you too, Rob, because you are of that decade. The women that you used to deal with back in the early 80s, back when metal was metal, you know, back, you know, now you're both, we're all older, you both are involved with lovely ladies, stable relationships. I'm talking about when you were aliens, you know, so relax, ladies. Have you ever, have you run into those ladies now and have you said, oof, fuck, what happened? Aging sucks. You know what I think happens? I mean, I have, and I've got a memory. And what really amazes me is either they're the ones that have actually grown up and they're the ones that are still stuck in the time warp. Wow. So, and it's like, wow, God, I hope I'm not recognized. God, she didn't recognize me. Are you telling me that you run into chicks from back at that era that are still trying to squeeze in the leather pants, leopard pants? Yeah. Oh, don't wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, to paraphrase a Henry Rollins line, spandex is a very forgiving fabric. Denim, not so much. If you could go back in time, and this goes for both of you, if you could go back in time, what would you change about your musical careers then to where you're at now? Or would you not change anything? It seems to me, before you answer, it seems to me that you both really, and I mean this sincerely, I don't mean to offend. It seems to me that you both sincerely not only appreciate, which is a big thing for me, musicians that appreciate. Anytime anybody goes see you, you better appreciate it. Just like I appreciate, like, you know, the dudes that are smoking, not listening to the show. But the fact that you appreciate your audience and the fact that you're doing it because you love it, that means a lot to me because it's a good, that shows the character of the person. It's not a job. Yeah, but if you could go back in time, what would you change then to where you're at now? You know what? I don't know. I mean, I probably wouldn't change anything, actually. I, you know, I'm happy doing what I do now. And even if I'm not paid for it, sometimes I am, you know, I'm not going to complain, you know. People listen to it and they actually, it actually affects them. So it's kind of good. You know, it's like, you know, I can die tomorrow and say, hey, you know, my bands are going to be there. I'm not going to be, but they are, you know. Yeah, your music lives on. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I don't, I mean, I don't really sweat that stuff. Whatever. What about you? You know, it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be anything big. I mean, there wouldn't be, you know, if I wouldn't have made, if I wouldn't have made this mistake, then that wouldn't happen. It's a bunch of little things. It's a bunch of like, maybe three day tours that got away from you, or maybe it's a song that you passed on. It's a bunch of little things where you think, I really wish I would have done that. And that's one thing we're doing now. I think we're doing this in Anger's Art now. It's like, okay, look, you know, there's only so many more go arounds of this. Who knows? We might be fortunate to do 10 more. I doubt it. But, you know, for each one of those, I want to make sure we get everything. I want to leave nothing left by the time I'm done here. You know? The tank's going to be empty. Right on, man. Right now it's full. I want to thank Rob Elenese. By the way, happy birthday. Thank you, thank you. Thanks for my cake. Steve Gaines. Thank you. Scott Gaines. Anger's Art. This is the new album. Make sure you pick it up March 11th. It is on old school metal records. Go to all the social media sites for Anger's Art to get information on this album and also up to date on all the live events. I want to thank you for listening. Make sure this Saturday you go to Love Hate and see Rob Elenese and all his bands. All great bands, by the way. Thank you. He'll probably get down to a large after all the sweating. That's a good story. And come down and just really see the true spirit of being a musician and loving music. Bottom line, I want to thank you both for being on the Very Mad Company cap show. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Let's end the show with a nice classic tune and of course, thank you for listening. See ya. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. The whole world is a laughing We're locked in the dark What's in the secret? Yes, there is more Nothing to suffer And it's a lie Driven by the darkness Riding the drive Riding a bad love Fighting the sea With a chilly scream We're to the fields We're on the run We're to the fields We're to the fields We're to the fields