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Ritual interview, Led Zeppelin lawsuit talk

2h 11m 37s
💾 1.3 GB
📅 2016-04-12
File: verymanic_160412_185711_WPR001.wav
Duration: 2h 11m 37s
Size: 1.3 GB
Aired: 2016-04-12
Hosts: Jimmy Cabbs
Guests: Ian Fleming, Dave Ferreira
Jimmy Cabbs hosts the Very Manic Jimmy Cabbs Show, discussing downtown LA homelessness, Axl Rose, Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin copyright issues, and interviewing the black metal band Ritual about their history, upcoming tour, and new album Epic Sagas.

🎵 Playlist

15:00 Cross-Eyed Mary — Iron Maiden 🎧
20:00 Anvil of Crom — Basil Poledouris 🎧
36:00 Taurus — Spirit 🎧
42:00 Heavy Metal Maniac — Exciter 🎧
45:00 New World Order — Discharge 🎧

📄 Transcript [show]

You will hear me now, you good men of Lancashire, and you will remember my words till your dying day. Yea, they will be pondered upon by your sons and the sons of your sons until the last star gutters from the sky. They will ponder my words until they gibber in madness, and remember unto their unhallowed graves the curse I now lay upon the Stuarts. MacIntyre, Stuart! Upon one purges night, but two years past, you swore your soul unto the covenant with my lord Satan. Whereby he has granted you riches and power a royal monarch might covet. Yet you have most vilely forsworn your own blood oaths and foully betrayed your comrades of the coven. You it was who led two of our brethren to buy freedom with our betrayal. Those who fought... followed you... were foolish and weak. Worth no more than our contempt. It is you who will be held to account for your denial of us and of our covenant. Be it known to you, MacIntyre, Stuart, and to those of your blood throughout eternity... the mark of my lord Satan! I will be with you always! There is no inch, nor ell, on all the earth where you can flee our vengeance. You stand forever accursed, MacIntyre Stuart! You and all you may beget, from Kinglyn's courtyard to the very gates of hell! The The The The The The The The The Skies fill the promised fields My adventure strangles my soul Skies I have to behold Big rocks Big hands Big rocks Big rocks BROKEN Is fresh like a glass Every second taste Is so with the dead I am alive With you feel so lost And cold This rise Begins This rise My cross This rise This rise This rise We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. words like shit, fuck, or cunt, then please refrain from listening any further. Los Angeles and the rest of the world. Broadcasting live from gentrified downtown Los Angeles. Or now, respectfully known as Barter Town. Oh, boy. Beyond Thunderdome. Yep, DTLA, Barter Town. You're listening to the very manic... Jimmy Kimmel. Cab Show. I am your host, Jimmy Cabs. Thank you for listening. Los Johnny is here joining us today. How you doing, Los Johnny? Doing all right. Doing all right. Walking through the minefield that is DTLA here. What a fucking minefield. It is so fucking weird, dude. A mentally ill, homeless minefield. Yeah. Mixed with dogs who eat better than you and I. I know. Isn't that sad? That's crazy. That dog has better health insurance than I do. You know, for those of you that are not familiar with downtown Los Angeles, there's been a massive... I mean, it's gentrified. It's been a massive change. We're here at the We Play Radio Studios, 19th floor studios. When we were coming up on the elevator, so many hot chicks with their fucking dogs. Beautiful. Fucking gorgeous. And they all look at us like, why are the janitors fucking here so late? Yeah, who let the help out? All right. Chester, how you doing? Chester, how you doing? Chester, how you doing? What are you doing over there? Doing good, man. Yeah, you getting that hit in there? Yeah. Yeah. Took a hit. Say something for me. Doing good. All right. This is interesting. There was a report that I read the other day of, I believe, 89-year-old senior citizen man that was attacked here in downtown Los Angeles coming out of a supermarket. I heard about that. Very expensive supermarket, too. I think it was one of those fucking... The Whole Foods? The Whole Foods? Yeah. And he was assaulted by a mentally ill man in downtown Los Angeles. In downtown Los Angeles, there has been... It's a mecca for homeless people, but also the severely mentally ill. When you walk through downtown Los Angeles and you see these beautiful lofts and these massive buildings that have been renovated to accommodate all these super wealthy people that are moving here, and they gotta be wealthy to live here. Yeah. Without a doubt. I'm not even saying that as a prejudicial thing. It's a fact. That is a stone fact. But there's hundreds and hundreds of millions... There's hundreds and hundreds of millions of mentally ill people and homeless families all over the streets. Chester, how do you do that? You know, it's really strange. I've been downtown for about 15 years now. So when I first came downtown, it was basically the same, if not maybe even a little less, minus, you know, all the hipsters and shit that have moved in here. There hasn't been a positive change in the homeless situation whatsoever. No. Well, first off, we as in Los Angeles are number one for a number of things, and we do have the number one homeless population in the country. Really? If not the world. Beyond New York? Yep. We're number one. We're number one in traffic. We're number one in homelessness. We're number one in gangs. We're number one in disparity between the rich and poor. We're number one in so much shit. But the Dodgers suck. Yeah, we're number one in all kinds of things. Oh, yeah, we just got voted, the Dodgers got voted voted the worst, uh, fans in Major League Baseball. Yeah. Well, let me ask you this, Chester. When you're walking, because you reside here, I just come here to visit. But, uh, let me tell you something without going into detail about my own personal history. Uh, Lost Johnny can vouch for this. And Lost Johnny, you share this as well. Absolutely. We are very, uh, we have a keen eyesight for spotting danger. Yep. Okay? And when I'm walking around here, I just see, and not to knock, this is in no way, shape, or form trying to, uh, ridicule or insult the homeless people. Even the mentally ill. Because I think it's tragic. And it really... I mean, that opened, that's a whole other issue in itself. Oh, dude, it just, it just really shows where we're at society-wise. We're like, these people are just being dumped on the fucking streets and no one gives a fuck. They literally are. I mean, like, other cities load up their homeless population and put them in a van and bring them to downtown L.A. and kick them out the door. Yeah, so, when you hear about an 89-year-old senior citizen old man being attacked, which is tragic, I'm not making fun of that. Nope. And he's attacked by a mentally ill homeless man, I'm not really shocked by that. Yeah, no, it's not shocking at all. So when you're going to the store... I'm surprised that more of that doesn't happen more often. Yeah, I actually want to, I wanted to comment on that. But when you're walking around going, like, you know, on your daily fucking routines, do you see the dangers out there or are you just oblivious to it? You know, when I first moved down here, um, I think I had a different mindset. You know, I was younger and I was thinking, oh, you know, this is edgy and, you know, it's all crazy down here and, you know, I'm trying to be like Bukowski and shit and, like, not give a fuck. But, you know, when you get older and you really open your eyes and after 15 years you notice that absolutely nothing is being done to either help these people or, or, move them into a situation where, where they even realize themselves that maybe I need some help. Like, they're just out there fucked up and all crazy and I walk... Feral. Yeah, exactly. And, and I, I walk outside and I, I see these guys just talking to themselves and, and, like, you know, having full-on conversations with themselves and, and twitching and, you know, either they're, they're completely mentally ill or, or they just, you know, hit the meth, pipe a, a bunch of times and they don't know what the fuck's going on and, and, you know, guys running out into the middle of the street and, you know, it's, it's just completely crazy and, and the city isn't, isn't doing shit, shit about it. I mean, not only that, mix that with what Chester just said with what we were talking about and what we see outside is the, is the, the youth or the younger population that are moving here that are, they are oblivious. They're fucking idiots. I mean, you can't, it can't help it, but notice, but not only do they not give a fuck, they're fucking idiots. I mean, dude, even I want to jack them at times. Do you know how easy it is? Very. Extremely easy. I mean, the fact that, dude, I wouldn't dare walk around here or anywhere with headphones on. That's the first thing, like, what's the first thing you notice? You hear somebody run up on you. You can't, you can't hear that if you, if your ears are blocked out. Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's really is a lack of common sense. We should get a remote, a live remote one day and just really get the full experience. Chester, we'll talk about that later. We'll figure this out. But here's the deal. The reason why I'm bringing this up live on the air here is for those of you that reside in Los Angeles or in any big metropolitan city. That's pretty much having the same effects as us. This is having, this is having, this, this is really nationwide. One of the things that we should do is really start holding these politicians accountable. Yep. Sending them a nice little email and saying, hey, well, what's the deal here? That's what's frustrating for me. And, and, you know, we, we had a, a Facebook conversation about this where I, I posted some sites. There's been over $110 million that was, that has been granted to the city since 2015 that, that is supposed to be dedicated to helping the homeless or, or putting up some housing facilities, whatever, whatever it may be. And, and I haven't seen any improvements. I haven't heard of that money being used for anything positive. Well, wait a minute. The nice tents that they have, isn't that the money that they're spending on their nice tents? They moved from 6th Street to Broadway. That's cool. The city just, the city just instituted an ordinance that says that, that now a homeless person can't have anything more than what fits into a, like a 55-gallon trash bag. Wow. Or, or it'll just be confiscated. So, so the city's, they're not actually helping anybody. They're just trying to make it more difficult for people to be, you know, just on the street. To be homeless, basically. Yeah. There's no help though. Wow. Unbelievable. Why can't they take that, those millions of dollars and, and hire a team of psychiatrists that have experience in dealing with people that are so far off the edge? Well, you know why that's not going to happen, Chester? Because we just got a football team and there's a stadium to be built. Correct. Sorry, Chief. Exactly. Ain't happening. Woohoo! The Rams, baby! We have priorities here. All right. Let's move it along here. Another disturbing thing that I saw, you know, I was ranting and raving a couple of weeks ago about this whole Axl Rose proposed, proposed ACDC thing. Relax. I'm not going to ramble on that. What is disturbing for me is, I think a week ago or two weeks ago, I don't even know, the Guns N' Roses did their premiere or fucking PR show at the Tribunal here. They did their fake reunion. Right. And, you know, there's been this whole mass fucking appeal. All these people are just like all buying that shit. Gross. But, Chester, do you have the image of Axl Rose performing? Look at this fucking guy. Look at this, look at this fucking guy, dude. Look at him. Oh, I broke my foot. Now, did I mention to you, aside from him, obviously, completely fucking stealing Michael Monroe's whole act. Okay, I just saw... To the T, by the way. I just saw Michael Monroe a couple months ago. That guy's like, I think he's 60 and he was so fucking... I talked about this a while back for those of you that listen to this shit. That guy looks... Look at this fucking guy. Yeah. Look at him. Really? I heard he slipped on some nachos. Is that true? Dude, why are people so buying into this and spending their hard-earned money on this fucking guy? I'm not surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if he slipped on Botox. Ugh. Look at that face. It just drives me fucking nuts. Another thing that drives me nuts, right now, we're counting down... Right now, hey, the Richo guys just got here. Why don't you just sit down there and make yourselves comfortable? We're talking about Axl. No black metal makeup, huh? All right. Another thing that drives me nuts is, you know, we're in the Iron Maiden countdown. Iron Maiden will be here Friday. On Friday, okay? At the Great Western Forum. Okay, now, this is what's interesting. This is what's interesting for me. One of the things that bothers the fuck out of me is their third guitarist, okay? Love Maiden. Been headbanging to Maiden since 1970. 1979. I mean, obviously, Los Johnny, you don't remember when I was in elementary school in the fifth, sixth grade when kids were all obsessed with Star Wars and Roger Starback. I was walking around in a Maiden shirt, a real one, by the way. Yeah, you must have stuck out pretty bad. But here's the deal. This third guitarist that they've had for over 20 years, Janet Gears. Do we have an image of Janet Gears there, Chester? This guy, for those of you that have seen Maiden in the last 20 years, he runs around the stage, he's spinning his fucking guitar, he's throwing it up in the fucking, all these fucking shenanigans that ruin my experience. He thinks he's Richie Blackmore or something. What's wrong with him? Dude, it drives me nuts. Love Maiden. You know what? I love the new record. I'm not one of these like, hey, I just want to hear the hits. I get what they're doing, but this fucking guy is so out of the loop when it comes to their live shows. I wish he would just stop those shenanigans. It reminds me of some fucking Los Angeles motherfuckers I know that aren't rock stars that think they are. It just like, the whole, it drives me nuts. The whole shtick of it all. I would, when was the last time you've seen Maiden? Oh, the last time I saw Iron Maiden was at the San Manuel Amphitheater for the, when they did all the Somewhere in Time stuff. Wow, yeah. Did it drive me nuts when you saw this guy? Dude, I was so, I was in the lawn. I didn't see shit. Okay. I might have saw Bruce Dickinson wave the English flag. That's about it. Okay, so as I mentioned before, we were discussing sending emails to your local politicians and representatives of the state. How about sending a message to like the Iron Maiden people and saying, hey, tell this guy to tone it down. Yeah, send a letter to, I'm paying a lot of, well, I'm not paying, but my lovely ass says she paid a lot of money for these tickets. Yeah, send a letter to their management, Rod Smallwood. Tell Jan to chill out. Cut it out a little bit. Chill, dude. Save that shit for fucking Germany. They eat that shit up. All right. Another thing that was disturbing, Led Zeppelin is in the news. Ooh, this news makes me very happy. As you and I both know, and this is so fucking, let's put an image of Led Zeppelin. Up there, Chester, you got an image of Led Zeppelin up there? Look at these fucking guys. Okay, in the 70s. This is a song. In the 70s, these dudes were like beyond gods. Okay, everybody and their mother fucking kissed their fucking ass. And listen, I'm not going to be a hypocrite. I grew up during the Zeppelin years and I like Zeppelin tunes here and there, but this is worse than kiss. People are just like addicted to this. Yeah. It's like a brainwashing thing where like, as you get, as you get older, you just can't let go. I know guys my age that are still cranking Zeppelin to the max and worshiping it. But what a lot of people don't know, especially their fan base, is that they're the biggest musical thieves without question they are. I would say about, I mean, I wasn't the biggest Zeppelin fan when I was younger, but I've learned to appreciate them now as an adult. However, in learning that and going through their catalog. Fuck them. Dude, 40% of their catalogs, catalogs. They're thieves. They're thieves. Is other bands, they're thieves. They're thieves. They're thieves. They're thieves. They're thieves. They're thieves. They're thieves. They're thieves. They're thieves. They're thieves. They're thieves. They're thieves. And not only that, the songs that they claim as theirs are just one note different from other people's songs. Chester, why don't you play, why don't you start playing some of that Led Zeppelin that's on the playlist real quick there. Can you hear this riff right here? Oh my God. This is just as, every time I hear this, I feel like if I'm a fucking Vietnam veteran having a fucking traumatic flashback. You know what I hear when I think of this song? How many girls during this time got finger banged for the first time? Right? You know what this brings back memories of? Of a bunch of fucking assholes smoking weed. Me too. And trying to force me to smoke weed when I didn't like weed. All right, but this is, this riff here, there's an infringement lawsuit going on and the reason why I'm talking about this is because as you and I both know and the Rich Hole guys know, society has gone to hell. This infringement lawsuit is going to go to a jury. Yeah, it's actually going to be here. A Led Zeppelin fan jury. Yeah, it's going to be here in Los Angeles. The judge okayed. Spirit, who's that? Yeah, what? All right, Chester, drop that. I'm going to stab myself. There's a lady who should. Why don't we listen to a little history of how Led Zeppelin, all these people, they kiss these fucking guys. Oh, I could name some dudes right now that I would love to drop their names. Oh, Led Zeppelin's still the bomb. You know who isn't a fan? Guatemala, Guatemala, Frank, let's digress. But Chester, why don't you play that little snippet there that talks about Led Zeppelin being thieves? So I'm talking approximately 12 beats, probably the most famous intro in rock music history. And the interesting story here is that Led Zeppelin, in 1968, the day after Christmas, opened for the band Spirit and then played with them, opened for them four times in 1969. So in order to sustain a copyright infringement case, you have to show access. In fact, Led Zeppelin even covered part of Taurus' songs, certain songs in concerts. So we have that. So we have access, we have the similarity, and probably the basis of a lawsuit. Now, it should be noted, too, that this is not the first time that Led Zeppelin has been sued over their music, over copying, over infringement. Whole Lotta Love, Dazed and Confused, The Lemon Song, and another track were also subjects of litigation. And there, reportedly, the band settled. Oh, what? The Lemon Song? Really? You mean, there's legal precedence for this lawsuit? This is going to a jury. Now, if OJ got off, ooh. Right? Ooh. Come on. Ooh. I mean, that's an interesting connection you've made, Counselor. That's a very interesting connection. you know, they mentioned that Stairway to Heaven came out 1971 on, uh, Led Zeppelin 4. Led Zeppelin 4, 1971. This is a song by a man called Spirit. Taurus. Came out in 1968. Chester, play those riffs. Here, hear the comparison. Look at that. This is Taurus. Ah, so beautiful. Mind you, this shit drives me nuts too, by the way. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm an MC5 guy. This riff, this riff sounds like... Look at Chester. Are you blazing back there, man? Can we just play the whole song, man? Right? All right. Now, I believe the Led Zeppelin shit should be coming up soon. But do you hear the similarities so far? Yeah, you can hear the root notes. Wow, Jimmy, you paid such a genius. You hear that? Dude. Dude. Just because you use a 12-string double neck. All right, enough. The reason why I'm bringing this up is because all these so-called... By the way, Led Zeppelin have made millions, even now. Now. Dude, the fact that, I mean, Led Zeppelin... It's like the Eagles, they don't die. I know. Dude, they are probably making more money now. are you guys big Zeppelin fans over there? They're all like... Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know about this lawsuit, man. I heard about it. Are you lip-syncing over there and fucking staring away forever? I think we see a lighter. All right. Listen, it's going to a jury. It's going to a jury. All I ask is, please, please, leave your fucking fanboy fucking thing at home and just really look at the facts because it would be nice, not only Led Zeppelin, there's a lot of other artists too, but it would be nice to really have this rectified and done right because Led Zeppelin... Justice. ...in the 70s were such gods. It would be nice to really have some justice for once. I mean, if you really want to get into it, I mean, Led Zeppelin were... They're dicks. ...untouchable. Now that, you know, it's 40, almost 50 years later. Humans, just like you and I. Exactly. It's just like, dude, the truth, this is one of those things where truth will set us free and, I mean, you can't help but notice the similarities between the two and Jimmy Page is one of the biggest, the biggest gangsters in the music business. That is a fact. Aside from being a pedophile? Well, not only that, but he's, like, business-wise, music-wise, dude, the shit that they got away with, like, they literally got away with fucking murder. You know, and guess who else kisses his fucking ass? David Grohl. Right up there. Right up there. When he's not fucking, he can't call Lemmy no more and, you know, when he's, when Paul McCartney's busy. Yeah. Fucking Jimmy Page. How are you? So let's get some justice going here, okay? Let's, let's leave the fanboy shit. Let's really open our minds and, uh, avoid, because this is all technically brainwashing from, like, the record industry back in the 70s. All these guys I know that are my's, they're still obsessed. Look at the facts. That's all I gotta say. Fucking Desperado, dude. Chased my life. All right. Get out of here. As I mentioned before, our guest today is a local band here in Los Angeles that's been around for decades. Very brutal. Ritual. Uh, they're known here, here in Los Angeles for being the first black metal, American black metal band. I would say, would that be in America or just Los Angeles? I would say America, though. As far as I know, they're the first in America. Yeah, first in America. By the way, very humble of you guys to be acknowledging that, but, as you know, black metal has exploded into a huge commodity, just like all these under-musical genres, and one of the things that I like about this band, Ritual, aside from being original and, and starting off in the genre when it wasn't what it is now, when it was dangerous and extreme and, uh, you know, beyond where it could be, is the fact that they're still doing it and they're still doing it without any form of, what I would like to say, like, you're not doing it to be fashionable like everyone else is. You're just doing it because it's part of you, correct? Okay, we're gonna get them over here on the mic and we're gonna talk to them in a bit. Ritual is our guest. Yeah, but before that, we heard some songs. We started the song. We started the song with two songs. The first song was called The Cross from the band With The Dead from the album With The Dead. Lee Dorian's new band. Really? Yeah, that's his new band. They're on tour right now in Europe with Beastmaker. Awesome. I look forward to hearing more in the future. After that, we heard Beastmaker, as you just mentioned. You Must Sin from their record Lusus Natura. I hope I pronounced that correctly. I do not have a major in Latin. After that, we heard Iron Maidens Oh, Cross-Eyed Marriage from the record of this team. That's an obscure song. That is. Yes, it is. Where did that come from, Counselor? That was a split that came out. That was like a single that they released back in the day. I believe 1982, 83? Yeah, because it's definitely not newer. I've not heard... This is a... Don't say you haven't heard it because you're going to be like... No, no, no, no. You're going to get bombarded by emails. I know. I'm going to get bombarded by a Guatemalan Frankie poser you can't hang out here. No, Dick. All right. All right. Countdown to Maiden. Three more days. Let's all send emails so Jenna Gears can fucking calm down with those shenanigans. All right. You're listening... I want to have a good time, man. No, no. I'm with you, man. Because, I mean, he fucks it up for me. I know. I'm over there singing along, having a great time. All of a sudden, this guy's throwing his guitar up. Just focus on Dave Murray. He's pretty chill. Yeah, you know, relax. All right. You're listening to the very manic Jimmy Cab show. This is a band that's coming to town in a couple of weeks. Exciter! Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And now, here with an unlimited supply of misinformation is Mr. Noto. I remember very vividly. I think it was 1986 at the Olympic when the real English dogs came for the first time. Why do I remember that show? Forward into Battle Tour? Because that's when the LAPD was the LAPD. And boy, did that show turn into a riot. And I think till this day, I still have a concussion from a belly cut back then. What did we hear last time? Oh, man, we heard the English dogs. How could we not forget the LAPD? Who can't remember or can't forget the LAPD? Anyway. English dogs from the record for Forward? I can't read your writing. Forward into Battle. Forward into Battle. Jesus Christ. Ambassador of Fear. Before that, we heard Darkest Deaths, who were last week's guests from the record. Those guys are great, man. Hilarious. Amusing gentlemen. Yeah. Let me tell you a story real quick. So last week, they played the Grand Corps Resurgence. And, you know, they did an amazing set. Great fucking guys. Love those guys. But fucking amen, are they too much to deal with? After their set, they're going to be playing the Grand Corps Resurgence. After their set, you know, I went graciously to say, hey, nice show. And the guitarist, which is Memo's brother. Right. Right? Right now, his name slips. I'm sorry. He tells me, Jimmy, Memo didn't tell you the truth, man. I wrote some of those songs, too. So there you go. For those of you that are Darkest Death fans, Memo didn't write all the songs his brother can sing as well. I wonder if his brother's going to sue him. Let's see. Yeah. It's the underground version of Darkest Death. Yeah. It's the underground version of Stairway to Heaven. All right. Stairway to Hell. Stairway to Hell. Or Downy. The name of that song is Curse. Same place. Before that, we heard War Master. Mass Cremation from the record of the same name. And before that, we heard Discharge. Oh, man, I am excited to see that show. When is it happening, Jimmy Couch? All right. Discharge is going to be playing June 5th in Pomona at the Glass House, June 6th at the Roxy. That's going to be a cool show with Toxic and the Rock. Yeah. That's going to be a cool show. I'm excited to see that show. I'm excited to see that show. I'm excited to see that show. All right. Discharge is going to be playing June 5th in Pomona at the Glass House, June 6th at the Roxy. That's going to be a cool show with Toxic, Holocaust, and Ringworm, and Iron Reagan. I Hate God. I Hate God. It's a great record. Pick it up. By the way, I just picked up the new I Hate God Blast Split. Amazing. Get your ears behind it. The name of that Discharge song was New World Ordered. As we started this set properly from Exciter, we got four of them in this room right now. Heavy Metal Maniacs. Heavy Metal Maniacs. May 25th, May 23rd, Long Live the Loud, Exciter. The original lineup is going to be playing. That's brought to you by False Cause at 333 Live. Make sure you get your tickets for that. And that's all the information I have because I haven't gotten an email back from those guys. Let me mention this. May 7th, War Master is going to be playing with Dark is Death. That's going to be happening at the Five Star. And then May 25th, the return of the real English dogs forward into battle. Oh, by the way, I'll be attending the Napalm Death, Melvins, and Dead Cross show at the True. I'm going to be at the Troubadour on May 7th. They're doing a weekend of shows there. So it's going to be a rad show. All right. Where do I begin with you guys? Let me first start off by saying I would have to say it was 1993 or 94 when I stumbled upon a little club, which you actually corrected me and told me what it was. In Chinatown here in Los Angeles called Madam Wong's, I think. I believe it was called the Hong Kong Low. Hong Kong Low. Okay. You got to excuse me. My memory. By the way, those were during my Dean Martin years. So that's when I didn't sleep a lot. And so I saw a band. At that time, music was very interesting because it was kind of like on the ending phrase. This is when we were all living off our vinyl. This is during the whole corporate record industry takeover of Pearl Jam and fucking... It was a transition period. Nirvana and Soundgarden, all this mass market. And so I was listening to stuff that was just completely saturating fucking everywhere you went. Yep. And for those of you that were underground, you were living off your vitus and fucking Sabbath records. And you were listening to a wave of black metal that was coming from overseas, which at that time was just extremely eye-opening. The most extreme you can possibly imagine. It was like, wow. This makes Slayer look like pussies. Dude, it made Venom look like the Partridge family. Hell yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Jane's Addiction, fucking shit. There was nobody doing black metal. Absolutely. Not only in Los Angeles, I would say in America. Everywhere in the United States. There was a band called The Ritual. Now, aside from you being robbed for that, then you get robbed, you choose the name Ritual. And so this is before currently within the last 10 years, all these explosions of bands that have Ritual. But you get confused for the New Wave of British Metal 1973 Ritual. Then there's the, what is it, the Brazilian Ritual. I mean, I could go on and on. There's the Belgium Doom Ritual. I mean, dude. I saw some chart on the internet, actually, that was like the most commonly used metal names. And Ritual, I think, was like number four or five. Okay. First of all, why don't you introduce yourself? I'm sorry. We're here with Ritual. My name is Ian Fleming. I am the original Ritual member. You are the guy who conceived Ritual. It was conceived by me and Mike and Robert and Mitch. But the embodiment that it became, you know, and what the summoning and all the music, basically the whole direction of the band. The creation of the sound was basically my, you know, formation. And to your left here, why don't you introduce yourself, young man? Dave Ferreira. Really? I thought you were Nickel McBride, man. Man. Nice try. I saw you play Friday at the Five Star. I could have swore you were fucking Nickel McBride. Get him. He's totally a chump compared to me, I'm sorry. My first question to you, my first question to both of you is, as we mentioned before, there's a vast history of the Los Angeles Ritual. Ritual, much like Los Angeles, never gets the respect it deserves. You know what I mean? The music scene with the cutting edge bands ahead of the time, never gets recognized. And neither do you. My question to you is, does it drive you nuts? Especially now, 20 something years later. Does it bother you that when people come to you, they're like, are you the Ritual from Chile? No, you know what? Are you the Ritual from fucking La Crochette? Are you the Ritual from Tennessee? Bell Gardens? Yes. Fortunately, I don't really get... You look older, eh? I don't really get a lot of that, actually. Like, it's funny, people, when I say, yeah, I'm the ritual guy. You're not from England? People pretend, people either pretend like they know, People pretend, people either pretend like they know, or they don't. Or they don't know what it is. Or they actually do know. That's even more insulting. That's more insulting. It is. So, I mean, that's usually what I get. But, I don't know, man. It's LA, man. West Coast. It's just the way it is. Isn't that amazing? You know, I went to go see you play Friday. By the way, I have a bone to pick with you. Oh, yeah. We'll get on it. Let's get on it. I'm ready. I no longer, after my strokes, I no longer keep anything in my vest. Okay, good. But here's the deal. Neither does he after all his strokes. Yeah. Really? Oh, many strokes. Oh, dude, we have a lot of comments. I got some fucking Tylenol if you need some. Anyways, here's the deal. I noticed that there was such an excitement in that room to see Ritual, right? And I'm sitting there with a friend of mine who's my age as well and weighs as I do and similar waist size too, right? Same cholesterol level. And we're like, none of these motherfuckers were even born. We used to go see this band. And they're walking around like they're all fucking badass. Right? I was just like, wow. Yeah, it's funny. I mean, I don't know. It's, yeah. Why still do this? Because there's been so many bands. Simply because I have more material. That's all. I mean, I have more stuff to write. You know, I like making metal. Do you like the fact, and let me comment on this first so you get where I'm going. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. This is another thing that I find very tragic with your band. When you were writing this stuff back in the day, before this whole marketing, before this whole explosion, before this whole, you know, the church burnings and mass marketing, Panda Ware and all this shit, you know, you were incorporating a very dark, very raw, very aggressive, free-willed black metal. But you were still incorporating. You were still incorporating harmonies. You were still writing music. You weren't doing the whole trying to fucking, you get what I'm saying? Yeah. Melodies. Yeah, of course. No one gave a fuck. Nope. Nobody gave a fuck. Now, everyone's doing that. Yep. Where do you keep your integrity? How do you not keep your, how is your writing process not contaminated by that? I just, you know, to me, it's an expression of myself. You know. What do you do? You lock yourself in a room? You don't listen to nothing? No, I don't. I don't listen to anybody's music. I'm busy making my own shit. I mean, I listen to some shit. You listen to everything. Do you have people come up to you saying, hey, why does your record sound like this? When you're like, hey, wait a minute, fucking, they weren't even around back then. Yeah. I mean, I get a lot of stupid questions. A lot of times I just don't fucking answer them. But I don't know. To me, it was, it's just, you know, it's art is about experience. It's about expression. To me, that's it. You know, there's not, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to do anything. I just do what I feel. And to me, that is black metal. Do what the fuck you feel. Period. Here's another thing that I really like, what I like about, what I've admired about you for decades, but what I like is the fact that you're human. You know how, like, for the last 15, 20 years, black metal dudes are walking around, they're all fucking, they're not all manic depressive. They're all, they want to fucking cut you up. They want to slice themselves. Yeah. Or they're, or they're like super evil. You know, I, you know. Not too evil. Yeah. Too evil. I've, I've had the misfortune. I don't want to say fortune. A misfortune of interviewing some of these artists. And, and I'm sitting, I'm sitting, I'm sitting there like, dude, like, it's just me and you. You don't got to give me your shtick. You know what I mean? Like, and they're all like, I just came from fucking the abyss. I saw you at the gas station. Yeah. You were. Right. I mean. You were at the show. I like the fact that you incorporate. I like the fact that you. Didn't you deliver me a UPS package last week? You were a good piece of nista. Weren't you, weren't you my barista a couple months ago? What I like is that you retain your humanity. You're, you're not trying to be other than what we all are, which is just vulnerable human beings that have issues like anybody else. You know, we respond to life like anybody else. We're just a little older, a little wiser. In some cases, you know, still not learning from our mistakes. How do you enjoy doing this now compared to then? Wow. And with your new members. You know. So much more, right? Actually. So much more. So much more. How do you like playing with fucking Nico McBride? Amazing. Davey McFerrara. Davey McFerrara. Actually, it's, it's, it's, it's great right now because, you know, fucking Dave is like, you know, I'm not going to play with Davey McFerrara. I'm not going to play with Davey McFerrara. He's like really, maybe the best drummer in the world. I mean. And the first drummer to ever play on a Ritual record. On a, yes. Our new record is actually live drums. Not programmed. Ritual was programmed. So there you go. And so there's that. That's, you know, that, that's, that adds, that brings me to a whole other question. You didn't know? No, I did not know that. Yeah. Oops. What's happening? Were you able to adapt to that? Adapt? They adapted to me. Yeah, because. We changed. We changed things. Yeah. No, I mean, the record was, most of the songs were mostly written by the time Dave came into the picture. So we basically just, you know, based it all around what, what was programmed and he just took it to like the next level and added all his little herbs and spices and, you know. Last bits. And last bits and interesting, cool stuff that Nico McBrain wouldn't do. But I do that. Stuff that requires a drum set. A drum set. Of that magnitude. A massive drum set. Lots of drums that need to be there every night. A massive drum set that pisses Jimmy off. Let me ask you, let me ask you this. You set up that beast of a, of a percussion every night? Every night. Every night. And by yourself. Takes it down, sets it up, and then takes it down again. Sometimes in the rehearsal room, I'll do it just for practice. Now, let me ask you this. You're going to be going on tour. Are you going to take that monstrosity on the road? Damn straight, bro. You're going to kill me. Damn straight. He's a glutton for punishment, man. I love it. Is there any way we get like a tech to go along with him or something? I don't need a tech. This picture, 1240. 40 minutes watching this guy set up. It was entertaining as hell. It was entertaining as hell, dude. The suit hasn't even set up the cymbals yet. You loved it. Every second. You were on the edge of your seat. All right, all right, all right. We got, come on. Let me tell you what the saving grace was. It sounds like you went to a drummer and a ritual show broke out. That's what happened. Let me tell you what the saving grace was that night. You know, not only was it watching your meticulous setup skills, by the way, and surrounded by a bunch of female black metal chicks that look and smell like dudes. The only reason why I didn't have a fucking nervous breakdown was because your merch girl was there. And I mean this with all due respect. She was so feminine. So feminine. High heels, makeup. Oh, it was like a breath of fresh air. It was like me being in a pit and someone threw a rope at me. Like, oh, let me get you. Will you be taking her on the road with you? We should. You should. She will not be coming on the road with us. We will have some smelly dude. Yeah. Or something like that. Let me ask you something serious. What is your opinion now of where this whole, not only black metal, just this whole, extreme music movement has gone? Because I always comment on the fact that one of the things that I find tragic when I see where the music scene is now is that the integrity is gone. The whole reason why you listened and this music appealed to you because it was just dangerous. I look at it like rock and roll in the 50s. That's what's gone about it. That's gone. The exclusivity. I remember in the 90s, we would go to the Hughes Record Shop, Auditory Odyssey in the Valley. I don't know. There's a place in Glendale we used to go. There's all these random places. I remember that place. Yeah, yeah. You could tell the metal CDs from any other CDs because they were black and white. Yeah. And so we were just... We'd flip through the spines. Whichever one was black and white, that's the one you look at. Yeah. And if it had a cool cover, oh shit, I'm going to buy that one. We bought it. You know what I mean? That's how we judged what we bought. You know, wild rags, of course. I can't wait to get into that. Oh, yeah. I have a question. I mean, you mentioned where black metal is or just metal in general is in 2016. It's so splintered. It's so everywhere. I mean... It's predictable. It's... What do you think? I think about bands like Death Heaven, Wolves in the Throne Room that have taken the elements of the black metal and... Well, I think that... Well, that's how Dave feels about it. I think that question has been answered. I mean, seriously, seriously. I mean, leave your disdain biases. Doesn't that drive you nuts? Like, what is this mutation? Crap. I don't... You know, I don't... Really, I don't know because I honestly don't listen to a lot of other people's music, especially... Whatever they call black metal nowadays. I kind of just don't fucking want to hear it. I'm not interested. But do you realize that amongst your peers... See, I love Farron from Lightning Swords of Death because, you know, he's another one that was like, hey, this is what I do and I don't... We stand apart. We don't give a fuck. Fuck everybody. We don't... You know, we're not in a group or nothing like this. But do you realize that amongst your so-called peers, you're retro. They're looking at you like, you're still doing that? Yeah. When it's like... Dude, I created this. Yeah. That's an interesting story because the band we played with at the Five Star, The Hiding... Dude, I was outside the whole time. When I wasn't losing my mind watching you set up, I was outside the whole time. But anyway, I mean, this is Portland doom black metal, I guess. The Hiding. And when we were done playing, they were like, you guys are why we started playing black metal. Nice. You're the real deal. This is what black metal sounds like. Oh, they didn't say that to me. That's what he said to me. Well, it's a drummer. You know, it's a drummer thing. That's something I wanted to... It was right there. Yeah, just to... You would hope or at least when you listen to... When you get into a band that's like obviously big and mainstream and the first one you want to go for, I want to believe that there's a section of people that are like, okay, I'm into this band. What else is before that? And then, yeah, that's when you start going backwards into like, oh, Possessed. Oh, that sounds pretty cool. And then like, well, let me dig a little deeper. And then, shit, there's Band Ritual. Well, the one that's from here. So... I mean, the guy... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you hope that that's the case when kids kind of go up to you? Like, I was into this and now I did my homework and now here I am. I think, yes. I say yes on that. Yeah. I don't... I mean, they're straight up just like, fuck Emperor, Ritual. I was like, all right. Ian don't care. Have you seen who he goes out with? I mean, his... Dude. Well... Dude, have you seen her in heels? He don't care. Like, the world's for an apartment. Life is great for me. Hey, seriously. Let's... I'm not saying that you're going to be going on tour. Here's the deal. We are going on tour. You're going on tour. It's been a while since you've played and it's been a while since you... I don't think you've ever gone on a tour, have you? Not a full tour. No. Ritual has never been on a full tour. We have played local in LA. We played a couple... Festivals. We played a Milwaukee Metal Fest. I don't think you've ever gone overseas either. We have not gone overseas. That's going to happen. That's going to... We're hopefully... 2016, man. 2017. 2017. Hopefully, we're going... Going across the... You're going to come back and reclaim what you should have reclaimed 20-something years ago, you know? Well, yeah. We're doing it... See, we're doing it right this time. You know, there was a... What was the problem the last time? It's fucking black metal. That's the problem, man. It's like fucking black metal. I mean, yeah. To be fair, you know, it's not exactly financially viable to do something like that. Okay, and you're talking about fucking black metal in the 90s, Jimmy. Nobody gave a fuck. You know that, man. There was no money there. It was like, there's no money. I'll actually just say to you that some of your band members were probably dicks too, right? Jimmy said it. Not me. Jimmy said that. They're dicks. I said it. Ritual will not be held responsible for the words that they host Jimmy Cavs or his... April 29th. April 29th. That's the kickoff. The one and true ritual. Let me rephrase that. I mean, yeah, sure. You can fucking talk shit about... I mean, yeah, sure. You can fucking talk shit about... I mean, yeah, sure. You can fucking talk shit about... I mean, yeah, sure. You can fucking talk shit about... I mean, yeah, sure. You can fucking talk shit about... You can fucking talk shit about, you know, the new wave... I'm talking about the black metal ritual. The real deal, April 29th, they are resurrected at the Stardust in Downey. That's where you're going to start off your tour. Yes. And you're doing a whole... What is it, like, west of the United States tour? Everything west of Mississippi. How many dates? Mississippi. You want to stay away from Mississippi, dude. Yeah. Is it 17 shows? Is it 17? Is it 17? It's two weeks driving and playing every day. Okay. And then some. Yeah. Yeah. It's the way to do it. It's the real deal. It's the real deal. Oh, yeah. You guys are really going out there. Road dogs. Yeah, it's going to be everywhere. All right. Let's listen to some ritual here, and we'll come back and speak with these gents. Oh, what are you going to play? And we'll discuss... What's your plan? We'll discuss how to properly set up your drums properly. You know, I could use some schooling on that, man. Yeah, definitely. You're going to have to help. You want to be a tech? No. You want to be a drum tech? No. I've seen what you know, man. No, I think you know what you do. Yeah, I'll be what you do, man. Can we call Terry Bozzio? Terry? Terry's busy setting up his drums right now. Why don't you begin the ritual? Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Take it away. Life, monuments to create For the honor, life, monuments and pain End of slavery Revealing silence Animation has just begun With ghosts of million graves We cannot repeat the spine For dying lies a hunger-raising stone For the honor, life, monuments and pain End of slavery Behind the loop Behind the loop Behind the loop Behind the loop Behind the loop Behind the loop Behind the loop Behind the loop Behind the loop of clouds Raiders of our mind engulfed Your journeys are casting on come Land of Diary Your tribe was final and Wonders your mental weakness The universe won't count on you The stars don't need your pride End of Diary A new born race to conquer The tale of our lives Looking down the red plague Death is an unparalleled life For solace and life More human than death Alright, we're going to do the last song of the night. We're going to do the last song of the night. One of the things that we were discussing here, Lost Johnny is going to tell us real quick what we heard, but one of the things that we were discussing was the fact that I miss I miss the excitement of new music coming out. What I mean by that, there was a period in time where like everything was so new and fresh and it was captivating because you're like, wow, what are these what are these artists doing now? What are these bands doing now? It just seems like everything is predictable and mundane. I mean, it takes a certain type of beat. I mean, it takes a certain type of band and the anticipation to when you actually like there's bands that when you hear that new record or even just a new band period when it stops you in your tracks, that's when you have something. I still have that feeling, but not for a lot of metal. But there's not that to say there isn't. But I know what you guys are saying. There's actually one record I was telling Jimmy Caps about it earlier, this band called Oransi Pazuzo. They're from Finland. And they fucking they just got a new record out and they just blew me away. It's one of those like, whoa, I'm gonna have to listen to this like five or six more times before I get completely blown away. You know what I mean? So for me, there is still that excitement. It just now I think because there's so much and on top of having the or wanting to get into the older stuff, you got to put a little bit more elbow grease into it, into finding and finding and getting that excitement back. It's always going to be there. You just got to put a little bit more effort. That's all right. Well, we're going to ask you. I'm going to ask you a little bit about new music. But real quick, La Shani, what did we hear? What did we hear? We started the set with our guests ritual from the resurrection, a funeral for my heart. Oh, man, that speaks to me. Quite a bit. And then we heard the resurrection. And then after that, we hear disaster. That's new disaster. New stuff. End of tyranny from the record, The Oath of Art Inc. What? Of an Iron. Sorry about that. And then we heard Soldiers Under Satan. No, no, we haven't. We haven't heard? We're not there yet. Sorry. Oh, oh. Epic Sagas is what you have titled your new record that's coming out, correct? That is correct, sir. New music. New music with your band Now. Yes. Which is you've gone in and you've written as a band. Well, like I said, the band is now. Well, like I said, the songs were mostly written. So you wrote all these songs on your own? Nope. Well, Ben and I wrote, Ben is my guitar player. You don't have to write that down. You're like, I want to write songs. He's a drummer. He doesn't write notes. I'm fine with the process. He just bangs on stuff. Yeah, yeah. Hack him a hack. Most of the songs were written by Ben, my new guitar player, and I over the course of the past few years. Years. Years. This record has been years in the making. Years. Why is it so lengthy for you to write and record or play? What's going on with you? What are you doing on the side? Are you like a fucking teacher or something? Your lawyer? What's going on? No, man. This music is very difficult to play and record and put together. It's like gymnastics on instruments. That's actually very true. Near impossible. It's like... Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. Elaborate. I cannot even It didn't It didn't to me We must see Is worse than those Black metal chicks That attended your show Oh boy Thank God Thank God for your merch girl I think he was there She saved my sanity You know I mean this in all sincerity She saved my sanity I'm glad I'm glad for that How do you Not just straight from The original question But how do both of you guys Feel when you see These black metal chicks Going to these shows Frightened Right Frightened Can you tell the difference I feel like I got Into the wrong business In sync man In sync I like how the obese ones Deliberately go out of their way To show you how The least amount of clothes I'm fat and I'm confident Wow I worship Satan And I'm fat and I'm proud Black metal Yeah Leggings are a girl's best friend Oh my God I think Satan I think Satan came up I think Satan came up With the saying No fat chicks Oh I wish Oh that's That's terrible We were talking about Epic sagas You mentioned that It's hard For you to write Or record I do I do most everything myself You know Before You know Before there was The band here You know I was I was just writing This new record myself Just like I did The resurrection By myself I didn't plan on Having any help with it That's gonna stop So now I've got some help I've got this Crazy Dave Ferrara Drummer guy here I've got Ben Daw Who Is! What are you telling me You're like Gene Simmons You're just like For the kids You know Back in the day Cause you're not making Gene Simmons money man No I don't think he's making Nick Simmons money I'm not I'm not making Fucking Fucking Anybody's money Anybody's money dude I don't know man There's a real There's a real question in there Why Why keep that Okay here's why Because the The summoning Is basically Uh the the base model for what you know ritual is and and and what we created and and you know all that shit uh very humble by the way i like the fact that you really don't elaborate and go and you let me say this you really did create this form of music here in the west coast or in the united states uh what i like what i like about what you portray yourself is is you're like hey this is what i do this is my thing it is what it is which is the true emotion which you're supposed to have when you're writing this type of music and you play this type of music these these these black metal guys that go out of the way to be so beyond earth or too extreme or too like blasphemous you know the reason why we're all attracted to this music regardless of what demographic regardless of what genre is that we're subversive we're We don't accept what was being force-fed to us. In my case, you know, I had enough of the Eagles and Zeppelin and Fleetwood Mac. Fuck this. I want something heavier. Yeah. You know, last week we were talking about how traumatizing the Rob Halford homosexual revelation was. But, you know. I always knew it. I can tell. In 1978, 79, that was like, whoa. Tusk or fucking Unleashed in the East. Like, fuck it. I hear you. When you say that you do that for the kids, do you do that to also stay true to the formula? Yes. As we were talking during the break. It's staying true to the formula. You're Coke. You're that new Coke. And it's also because so many of these other fucking bands have changed up their goddamn formula. And fuck that, man. I just, look. I'm not trying to overthink it. I'm not trying to like, I'm not trying. That's the thing. I'm not fucking trying. You know? I just do this because. Well, when you're on stage setting up, you got to try a little bit. He tries. Yeah, I try. Sweating, man. I just do the same fucking thing I've been doing for 25, 30 years. You know, to me, it's just what I do. It's not. Do you still get that angst, that rebellious, subversive feeling, not only to write new music, but when you're playing? Because one of the things that I will say, I get really, really disappointed or disgusted when I see bands that are trying. To play on stage, but they just don't have that energy. It's like, when I'm. What I liked about your show on Friday, it was very, a very powerful show. Once we got to it. Once we got to it. And to be quite honest with you, you know, a stage that fucking small felt very constricting to me. And I really did not like it at all. I was running into Ben's guitar. I was running into fucking Mike. You know, I was running into the drums. I don't. I don't like to be that restricted. I like to feel like I can at least fucking move around a little bit. I think the bartender was walking into the drums. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody was walking into the drums. Everybody fell into the drums. Fuck it. If it wasn't fucking Adrian Mejia with his camera. Fucking Adrian. Everybody. No offense, Adrian. I love you. It was fucking. If it wasn't Adrian Mejia, it was the other bootlegger right there. Anyway, back to the corpse paint. Yeah, back to the corpse paint. Do it. Because. Because I don't give a shit. Because fucking. That's a great answer. That's why. Because fucking. Because fuck you. That's why. Because fuck you. Okay. Fair enough. Let's get into this. Let's get into this next segment of music for two reasons. One, because that's a great way to end it. Fuck you. That's the spirit. That's the attitude. That's what it's all about. I think a lot of these artists forget that. Oh. They're careerists. They're careerists, man. They try to make it more than what it really is. I mean, it's. Would you agree with me? Johnny, feel free to jump in. Do you think? It's rock and roll, man. It's just rock and roll. It's fucking rock and roll, man. It's rock and roll, man. You're not supposed to give that much of a fuck. You're supposed to drink beer. You're supposed to get high. You're supposed to have fun. If you're not doing that, you're fucking doing it wrong. It is in rocket science. Overthinking it. Let's listen to some more ritual as the guys become more rock and roll on our 19th floor We Play Radio balcony. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Chester, take it away. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm paid with the pain I have Because I feel like I might be dead I'm lost in the night falls I'm lost with the day I'm lost in the night falls In your presence I hear your daily thoughts Even if your speakers don't I'm getting pulled by all your selfish words I'm down In the night falls I'm lost In the day I'm down In your presence In your presence No more No more love No more No more No more All right. What did we hear there, Lost Johnny? We just heard Blinded by Hatred by Ritual from the record The Resurrection. Before that, we heard Ritual from Belgium. Not to be confused with the one with... Ritual from Los Angeles. Yes, exactly. They are from Belgium. You're confusing people. Exactly. They have better beer and chocolate than we do. And they also have Jean-Claude Van Damme. The name of that song is Last Night of Demons. That was recorded in 1986 from their EP of the same name. And we started... Actually, we didn't start the set, but we did another song from Ritual. This one from England, 1983. From the record Widow. Come to the Rituals. No, I'm fucking confused. I know, dude. England, Belgium, Bell Gardens. I can't keep up with that. And we started the set properly with soldiers, like I mentioned last time, soldiers under Satan's command from the 1998 Wild Rags tape. Wow. How did you like... Wild Rags. Now, when you were doing that Wild Rags thing, did you have a good experience with that? Yeah. I loved Richard, man. Okay, well, then we'll leave it at that. You know, I was a little kid, and I was just happy to have CDs coming out. You know, that's all I care about. You had no concept of residuals or... Oh. You know... Masters. You know, we had all the masters, actually. He didn't, you know, it wasn't like... He didn't really... As with everybody at the time, nobody thought black metal... mattered. So, he didn't give a shit either. He was just like, all right, I'll put you guys up. Fuck it, I don't care. Yeah, right. And, yeah, that was... It worked out good for me. And so, while you're there negotiating your contract, did you observe him, what he was known for? As you're talking to... As he was talking, he'd be like, hey, you, you've been over there looking... Are you gonna buy something or what? Get out. No, you know... Hey, do you have desecration from Arizona? No, I don't have desecration. Get out of here. The fuck out of here. See, I... Hey, you, you've been there for two hours. You gonna buy that record or what? No, see, I love that about Richard. Like, that was what I really appreciated about him. My uncle was like that. He was, you know, just a loudmouth, snappy dick like that. And so, I was used to it. Wild rags records. I would just laugh at him and fucking yell at everybody. Yeah. Okay, Richwood was gonna be going on a tour. That sounds so odd. I don't know if it's an inaugural tour. That's so odd for me to say after over 20... All right. Chester, you got the Richwood tour schedule up there? Can you put that up for us, please? Richwood is gonna be going on tour. That's it. How many dates is this tour? I don't know. You're fucking counting. I don't know. All right. You're gonna be going on tour. Go to Richwood on Facebook and you can see the tour dates. For those of you... Make sure you pick a selected date near you and check out what I've done for almost 30 years, man. Is that fucking bloody right? 30 fucking years. Check out some ritual, man. Yeah. Now, April 29th here in Los Angeles, you're gonna be playing at the Stardust in Downey. That's gonna be an excellent show. Oh, it's gonna be the best. Hope they have a big stage. Will you? I hope it's... You played at Stardust? No, I played at Stardust. Have you done it? Yeah. Let me ask you this, because we were... It's bigger than Five Star. What isn't bigger than Five Star? We were discussing... We were discussing... We were discussing... We were discussing seriously and also, you know, fucking around the length that it took you to set up your drums and how it was in my fucking mind and... Jimmy hates drummers. The anticipation. Why don't you tell me why you put so much emphasis and so much time into building that fucking Peter Criss drum set that you had for the Five Star? Dave Ferrara. Yeah, because I'm an asshole. No. Seriously, because every show for me with ritual, is the most important show and I want it to be exactly the way it needs to be. It's important. We're that band that's always going to put on the best we can do and that's what I need to do it. That's the gear I need to do it and that's the way I'm going to do it. How can I hate on that? That's... You can't. You gotta admire that. You can't. It's quality, man. But it's the Five Star. You can't... Sweating bullets up there. You can't downsize it a little bit? If it's... Nope. If it's the Five Star or the Two Star... Yeah. See, he had too many stars. That's the one star, man. See, as a drummer, he brings quality and quantity. I can't argue with that. Actually, you know what? Dude, if we're playing your living room, that kid's coming. You know what? I gotta... In all sincerity, I respect that. That's true. Thank you. That is true, what I would say, artistic integrity. I'm not going to back down. It's going to always be... You want to make every show... Ritual at least has integrity. That's what it makes for Jewel Girl. Is there any way that... Very little. Is there any way that we could try to find a drum tech to assist him for the future? Is there any way? Okay, we're sending the word out there to all you people. Is there any drum techs that want to come on to our work for free? Free. Can we also... Free drum techs. Some beer. Will your merch girl be at this April 29th show wearing those heels as well? Because that also helps. Yes. Yes, she will. All right. Fantastic. In all sincerity, let me just say this. There are those that claim to be real and then there are those that are real. The ones that create and are innovative never, hardly ever get recognized. It takes time. Much like wine. It takes time. And unfortunately, sometimes time becomes an enemy. But it's the work, the ethics, and the reputation and the passion that keeps you at a high caliber. Ritual Los Angeles, thank you for being here on the Very Mad at Jimmy Cab Show. Thank you. Thank you, Jimmy. Thank you. That was a very, very, very wonderful experience that I saw Friday. And you know what? These tour dates coming up, I encourage all of you to go on Ritual on Facebook. What is... Do you have any other social media sites? Yeah, I mean, we're all over the place. There's the... Ritual.band. Ritual.band is our website. See, we're pushing boundaries even with websites. We don't do that .com bullshit. Fuck that. That's old school. Way ahead. Way ahead. Ritual.band. That's all you gotta do. 2016, man. Come on. Get with it. Make sure you go on their social media sites. We also have the... What is that? The Bandcamp. Ritualusbm.bandcamp. And we also are on Facebook at Ritual Black Metal. Epic Sagas. When can we more or less expect this to come out? We will be kicking off the tour and selling the album at exactly the same time. Nice. On the 29th, you can get it. Nice. On the 29th, it will be available. So you have to come... Only on tour. It will not be available online until we're back from our tour. So come and see us and buy that brand new stuff from us and meet us and have a beer. We actually have some swag, some promotional swag that you brought, correct? Oh, we do. We have two Resurrection CDs and a Ritual Resurrection patch. Sparkly. Okay. I'm going to be giving that out. Make sure you go on Jimmy Cavs on Facebook so you can find out what creative fucking idea I come up with to give you some free shit. I want to thank the members of Ritual for being here. Thank you for taking the time to join us. And again, as I mentioned, Ritual will be going on tour here in Los Angeles. They kick off the tour April 29th at Stardust and Downey. For those of you that know real music, you do not need to hear me say you should be there. You should definitely be there. Look out for their dates on tour and Epic Sagas will be out April 29th. At their merch table. Go experience the beauty of femininity that Ritual brings. Especially when you're surrounded by sweaty, smelly, obese, black metal chicks. It's nice to see a lovely lady in heels. It's an oasis. Oh, you're a lucky man. Thank you for listening. We're going to end the show with another obscure Los Angeles band that is world-renowned, but still does not get the respect they deserve. They're going to be playing Los Angeles in a couple of weeks. We're going to have them here on the show as well. We're going to end it with Coffin Tech. Thank you for listening. See ya. Thank you. 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