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You have been through a lot.
You can handle anything.
Anything.
That we know.
Anything.
Can we ask you a few questions?
Sure.
Okay, because we all know a lot of what we read is not true.
And one thing that was being reported was that you kicked Ozzy out of the house.
Is that made up?
No, it's true.
It's true.
You cocksucker.
You don't give a shit.
And I've been sitting around getting sick of your attitude.
You fucker.
You fucking bitch.
We'll be right back.
I've seen life's magic Astroplane I've traveled through I heard them tell me that this land of dreams was now I told them I had ridden two deep stars and said I'd show them how Over and over Always tried to get away Living in a daydream Only place I had to stay Feeling forever break out Burning any miles wide People All around me Talking to the wolves inside I heard them tell me that this land of dreams was now I told them I had ridden two deep stars and said I'd show them how Don't need no extra life Have to get out, I can do it Have to get out, I can do it Have to get out, I can do it Have to get out, I can do it Have to get out, I can do it Have to get out, I can do it Have to get out, I can do it Have to get out, I can do it Have to get out, I can do it Have to get out, I can do it guitar solo guitar solo!
guitar solo You seem so...
like strong, but so different.
Like, just like every relationship, I feel like you and Ozzy have gone up and down, like all of us do in our relationships.
But why do you feel like it's so different this time?
Um...
because I'm 63 years of age, and I can't keep living like this.
applause guitar solo I want to touch you, I want to feel you, I want to love you tonight.
I want to hold you, I want to squeeze you, I want to hold you right.
Baby, I'm a power lover.
Baby, I'm a power lover.
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I wanna suffer it all.
Suffer it all.
Suffer it all.
Suffer it all.
I don't mind no hippie man.
I wanna help just like moment's man.
I wanna be stereotyped.
I wanna be classified.
I wanna be masochistic.
I wanna be statistic.
I wanna...
I want to be stereotyped.
I want to be classified.
Ozzy, you epitomized the whole sex, drugs, rock and roll, rock star thing.
Well, there's no drugs, there's definitely no sex.
I want to be classified.
I want to be classified.
I want to be classified.
I want to be classified.
I want to be classified.
They're all wanting to be celebrities.
They all want money.
But not all.
Not all, right?
It just...
Unlucky me.
Did they want to sleep with Ozzy?
Unlucky me.
I caught two of them in bed with Ozzy.
Different times.
Um...
And, I mean, it goes on and on and on.
Mary, if we have Ozzy, you should be mad at us.
I'm doing a party.
I dance all night.
I make six game beers and I start another fight.
But I'm training.
You're out of luck.
I'm rolling down the stairs.
Two drunk to fuck.
Two drunk to fuck.
Two drunk to fuck.
Two drunk.
Two fuck.
Two drunk, two drunk, two drunk to fuck.
I like your stories.
I love your done.
Shoot an aftertaste of my love, a world of fun.
Right in my room.
Wish you were dead.
You fall as a baby in a razor's head.
Two drunk to fuck.
Two drunk to fuck.
Two drunk.
Two fuck.
It's all I need right now.
I'm doing a party.
I'm rolling down the stairs.
Two drunk to fuck.
Two drunk.
Two fuck.
Two drunk to fuck.
I drink drunk to fuck.
You drink a lot to fuck.
Two drunk.
Two fuck.
I drink stock to hit you in the toe.
Two drunk to fuck.
I've got a drug.
My hands are messed.
The only salvation is I'll never see you again.
You give me a hand.
It makes it worse.
Take out your fucking routine.
And put it in your purse.
It's all I need right now Hey, hey, I'm feeling like a high-speed bus Hey, hey, and now I got diarrhea To drop the bus Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah Oh Hey There's an underlying friendship that can survive Even if the relationship ends Of course And I love Ozzy dearly You know, he's given me Unbelievable life He's given me three gorgeous children And You know, I love him Is there a chance Your marriage to Ozzy Won't end?
Is there a chance the two of you will stay married?
I honestly don't know I I I I!
At this point, I cannot answer that Because I don't know what I want Why don't you shut up, bitch?
Look at your heart I wonder what goes on inside When you have to pay yourself to sleep tonight Your parents fight You don't know who's wrong or right Have to pay yourself to sleep tonight Have to pay yourself to sleep tonight Have to pay yourself to sleep tonight Have to pay yourself to sleep tonight Have to pay yourself to sleep tonight Have to pay yourself to sleep tonight I know just how it feels I have to pay yourself to sleep at night I left this old house I left the old windows deep inside How are you gonna pay yourself to sleep tonight?
You got the ass fight You know that you can run away I have to pay myself to sleep tonight Broken of a broken heart Whether to live or have to fight It's a broken of a broken heart Now you know just how it feels I have to pay myself to sleep at night Let's go Now you know just how it feels Now you know just how it feels We have seen imitators We've also seen duplicators But now it's time for the originators The Originators You found me guilty For cheating on love I wouldn't hurt you For nothing in this world I'm not guilty No, I'm not guilty Don't sentence this heart of mine All right, Los Angeles.
Wow, that right there in itself says it all.
All right, you're listening to the very manic Jimmy Cab Show taping live from downtown gentrified Los Angeles.
Don't punish someone for just wanting to love.
You know, Ozzy Osbourne.
It's such a simple, simple mathematical equation.
You know, Ozzy Osbourne's going through a bunch of shit with Sharon Osbourne.
Sharon!
One of the things that you really just really want to just remember is a man's a man.
You know, he needs to, you know, he needs...
Have variety.
We need, we need, counselor.
We need...
Speak for yourself.
Variety.
It's the spice of life, man.
It is the spice of life.
I think it's tragic that is what he's going through, man.
My God, that weed you guys spoke got me fucking high.
I think it's tragic that it's unfortunate that Ozzy's being painted as the bad guy and cheating bastard and, you know, all this.
And that, but in the end, who really is winning?
Well, I mean...
Who controls the money?
Exactly.
I mean, let's just...
Who's going to get more than him?
Who, let's just, who's going to benefit just by contracts?
Right?
Who's Ozzy's manager?
Yeah, who's Ozzy?
You don't think she's going to like, you know...
I mean, she's already taking 10%.
You don't think she's going to like maybe divert?
Does he look like he's on top of his finances?
No.
No, right?
Doesn't he look like he just has a bank card and Sharon?
Every week Sharon puts money into it?
Yeah, exactly.
He has an allowance.
All right.
It's a shame, man.
It really is a shame, but...
In the beginning, when I first heard the news, I thought it was just a very creative, important way of getting attention for the press conference that they had with the OzFest, NotFest, Black Sabbath fucking last show.
Why, are tickets not flying off the shelves?
I thought at first that was the case, but then photos surfaced.
Hey, Jeremy, how you doing there, by the way?
What's going on, man?
Hey, Chester, put up some photos of the chick that Ozzy banged.
Okay.
That he cheated on.
Now, take a look at this chick right here, man.
Obviously, that's not her right there.
Let's see.
Okay.
Oh, hey.
She looks pretty good, right?
Not bad.
Right?
Doesn't that...
I mean, you know, you got to remember, this is Ozzy Osbourne, multi-millionaire.
Doesn't she look good?
Yeah.
Chester, put up another one.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Hey, Ozzy likes him thick.
I'm not going to fault him for that.
Oh, look at that.
Come on.
You're like, this dude can't get any better than that.
You know, there's plenty of girls, you know, in East LA who would love to jump Ozzy's bones.
Chester, throw up another one over there.
Oof.
Look at that.
Oof.
Wow.
You figure if you're going to lose half your kingdom, it might as well be a piece of fucking ass, though.
Yeah, that's definitely not a 10.
No, it's not, man.
That's not even a Brentwood 4.
Right?
Like, I just want to know, like, you know, the guy, can you picture him even being able to bang?
Obviously, he can.
Well, you know.
That's what I was wondering, man.
Right?
How does he even get his dick up?
Right.
He can't even fucking talk.
Dude, the dude can't even fucking walk right.
I mean, let alone, can he, I mean, I don't know.
There's a pill for that.
Yeah.
Look at the bitch, though.
Look at that chick, though, man.
I want, you know she's, you know she's the nasty girl.
Yeah, you know, she looks basic on the outside, but, dude, she's probably a freak on the inside.
Right?
Yeah.
Ugh, you know what, man?
Wars were fucking launched over pussy, you know what I mean?
Oh, man, and the empires have sunk as well.
I mean, goddamn.
I mean, who else?
Who else has done that?
What's his name?
Thurston, Thurston Moore from Sonic Youth.
Oh, he's another one, right?
He traded in.
Is that why he's on National Geographic?
Is he doing, like, the sound bites?
Yeah, that's probably.
He lost a lot of that fucking David Geffen money back in the day.
Yeah, you know, that major label money.
With Sonic Youth being big.
Yeah, that major label money did not last as long as he hoped for.
Well, it's just, you know, it's unfortunate when couples break up, but in this case, it's even more unfortunate.
It's a business breaking up.
Oh, she's going to bleed him.
She's going to bleed him dry.
And especially in the state.
Well, I don't know if they got married in the state of California, but if they were married in the state of California, oh, shit.
Immediate 50%.
That's just a start.
Oh, Jesus.
That's just a start.
All right.
Speaking of immediate, again, you know, we weren't here last week, but big news all over.
The Misfits.
Glenn Danzig and, you know, Jerry and.
Doyle.
Doyle.
They all announced that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
They're like the Blues Brothers.
They're like, da, da, da, da.
Do it for the band.
The band is getting back together.
Oh, man.
The Misfits have reunited.
For me.
That is a brilliant graphic, by the way.
You know, normally I would have something negative to say, but in this case, I really don't.
I think it's.
Really?
I think it's one of these kind of moves where Danzig has kind of milked that to death.
And the only other option he had was to finally just reform the band.
What do you think about that, Phantasma, about the Misfits getting back together?
Well, I'm just going to play drunk.
That's a good question.
Yeah.
Who is going to play drunk?
I mean, Robo's dead.
And Robo was never good to begin with with the Misfits.
The Misfits.
Can you imagine the merchandising deal on that alone?
I mean, think about.
We're going to introduce her.
Hopefully they won't do the dick thing that Manowar did and charge a ridiculous amount of money to see that show.
Well, as far as I know, there's two dates that are confirmed.
I believe the Flyers up there.
Riot Fest.
Denver and.
Chicago.
And Chicago.
Riot Fest.
Yes.
Tell me that's not going to turn into a tour.
Probably not because Danzig doesn't like to tour.
Danzig is not.
He's over touring.
And to be fair, you know, Danzig's voice is not as it was.
Not as it was 10 years ago.
It's definitely not.
Don't tell Crazy Craig that.
I know.
It's not as it was.
Definitely not in the Misfits.
I mean, it's better.
Super Rock Sunday, Crazy Craig.
I know.
We love you, Craig.
We love you.
We love you, Craig.
But, I mean, you have to realize all those dudes are in their 60s.
Well, not Doyle, but both those dudes are in their 60s.
Well, listen, we're in our 40s.
Okay.
You know, Fantasma, you're up there.
We're at this stage now where, you know, the 80s, fuck capitalism, fuck making money.
Fuck that.
Dude, these guys are going to kill it.
Tell me right now that this whole new generation isn't willing to fucking suck their dick, and pay whatever.
Yeah.
I mean.
Just to say they saw the Misfits.
I really hope that.
I've never seen the Misfits.
I never saw them either.
I really do hope that there's a shred of ethics involved where they don't fucking gouge the kids.
Because you know, you know, Counselor, that, dude, Black Sabbath is charging at a minimum $350 for that last show.
Minimum.
Precious, dude.
I mean, the Misfits realistically could do that.
But I don't think Glenn is.
He's not that much of a dick.
I really believe that.
You know what?
Here's the deal.
I think it's great that the Misfits are getting back together for two reasons.
I love train wrecks.
I love fucking train wrecks.
I don't know what's more of a train wreck, the Eagles or the Misfits.
I love train wrecks.
I can't wait for this fucking shows to happen.
I can't wait to see the footage.
I hope that they'd have like these big city shows, New York, fucking Los Angeles.
I can't wait for it.
Because at the end of the day, once it's done, it's done.
Yeah.
Let them retire peacefully.
Let it go.
Let it go.
All right.
Big news.
Again, Anthony Kiedis of the Chili Peppers was reportedly hospitalized.
We have an image of, there we go.
This fucking guy.
Unfortunately, they were going to play a show here in Los Angeles.
I think it was the KROQ, Winnie Rose.
Winnie Rose, yeah.
And he had to be sent to the emergency room.
Oof.
Oof.
Oof.
Oof.
Oof.
Oof.
Oof.
Oof.
Oof.
Oof.
Oof.
I'm hoping that he goes next this year.
Hey.
That'd be great, right?
You know.
Not a big Chili Peppers fan here, and it'd be nice to see this guy go.
It'd be really nice.
I will have to say, I actually am a Chili Peppers fan, but blood, sugar, sex, magic, that's about it.
I know, but this guy's had it good for too long.
He's been banging a lot.
Yeah, dude.
He's a million, he has a million.
Dude, the guy still has his hair.
He's time, it's time.
The guy looks ageless, but, you know, come on.
Time to go.
Speaking of that, dude, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, You know, this past weekend was prom night for a lot of young ladies.
Oh, boy.
I have a lot of friends that their daughters went out to prom.
Chester, you want to put a prom night photo there?
A lot of them were in denial because, you know, if I remember my prom.
By the way, I didn't get laid in my prom.
I was about to, and then the chick threw up on me.
Naturally.
You know, a lot of these little princesses with their prom dresses ended up, after midnight, ended up dropping those panties.
Oh, yeah.
And that was, Daddy, you want to see your daughter prom night?
There you go.
Right there.
If her head was not above a pillow while some dew was on top of her, it was in the toilet puking because she drank too much.
Did you go to your prom?
Nope.
You didn't go to your prom?
You know what's funny?
I had a gig, and I chose the gig over the girl.
Wow.
If that's not a, you know, telling metaphor of my life, I mean, that's pretty much sums it up.
It's just great to see, you know, I have no life, as most of you know.
And so I enjoy watching all of you post your photos of your lovely daughters about to take off on that wonderful prom night, you know.
Oh, man.
With that date.
The corsage, the awkward poses.
You know, the overpriced dresses.
That she's only going to wear once.
Only going to wear once.
And you know when that's going to happen again?
When she gets married.
And it's amazing how, like, you know, the mom and the dad, which, by the way, I know some of these people, you know, they forget that.
On their own prom night, they were fucking like pigs.
Yeah.
You know, mom was sucking dad's dick.
Yeah, probably.
That prom dress had some cum stains at the end of the fucking night.
You know what I mean?
Do you think your daughter's going to be any different?
Yeah, daddy spiked your mom's drink, and that's kind of why you're here.
Ugh, all right.
I always pull out.
May 16th was the six-year anniversary of Ronnie James Dio's death.
Chester, you want to put up some Dio photos there?
Man on the Silver Mountain.
Wow.
You know, talk about, there we go.
Talk about.
A tragic loss there.
I mean, Ozzy's in the news with his whole, you know, disarray at home, and then, you know, obviously the Not Fast Oz Fast and the last Black Sabbath show.
And then you have the six-year anniversary of Ronnie's death, and you're just asking yourself, why is that?
I know.
I mean, by all accounts, by all accounts.
Such a gentleman.
Everyone had not one bad word to say about him.
Great guy.
Not a single bad word about him.
You know, it was reported.
Or it's been mentioned by people that frequented Ozzy's band camp or knew him personally or whatever.
The guy was really a genuine person in that he remembered everybody's name.
Class act.
I can vouch for that.
When he remembered my name, I don't even remember.
I think it was at the Greek Heaven and Hell show that I was fortunate enough to go backstage, and I don't even know why.
And he remembered my name, and I was like, wow, what a great guy.
You know what?
I'm going to go spend $35 to buy a shirt off you because you were great.
Hey, fucking A, man.
Nice guy.
Six years gone.
Tragic.
Tragic.
Class act.
They don't make them like that anymore.
This weekend was interesting for me because Tommy Burgers had their 70th anniversary.
God damn.
You know, I remember eating one of those before my- Look at that.
Look at that image right there.
Look at how happy I look right there.
Oh, man.
Right?
70th year anniversary.
That's a man on a holiday right there.
They had the special for 70 cents.
Yeah.
For a hamburger and a Coke.
That's amazing.
And every Salvadoran motherfucker was at that fucking place.
I'd take three.
Right?
Every Central American in Rampart fucking- I mean, there was lines blocks away.
Yeah.
Crazy.
I remember eating one of those before I stopped eating meat, and I remember just even as a young boy how hard that was to finish one of those things.
And I got a little bit older.
I was like, I can still handle that.
I'm going to eat that.
I'm a young- I'm 17.
I can handle anything.
Dude, same thing.
After shows, I'm trying to like, you know, chow through this thing.
Well, let me tell you something.
It's a process.
And to see you eat three of them?
Jesus.
I want to show you the image of me after I devoured three of those.
Chester, do you have the image?
Look at that.
Oh.
That is a- That's a thousand- Happy 70th anniversary.
That's a thousand words and 4,000 calories, ladies and gentlemen.
That says it all right there, right?
All right.
This is going to be a great show.
This is going to be a great show here.
God, has it been over 25 years, Fantasma?
25 years, right?
For what?
For brujería.
It's 26?
That's amazing.
Okay, here's the deal.
26.
You know, all this controversy with Donald Trump running for presidency and his agenda, especially in regards to illegal aliens, this is a goldmine for you guys.
Talk about fucking- I mean, the record's right there.
It's like a record in itself right now.
I mean, wow.
What a perfect time for brujería to come out full force and really just take a stand.
Brujería is an amazing band which has a collaboration of- Well, we'll get into the history of the band, but for those of you that are not familiar with brujería, let me just say this.
This is extreme music for extreme people, and one of the things that I've always appreciated about brujería, and especially Fantasma, which is a band that's been around for a long time, is that it's a band that's been around for a long time.
It's a band that's been around for a long time.
It's a band that's been around for a long time.
It's a band that's been around for a long time.
It's a band that's been around for a long time.
What I love about brujería, and especially Fantasma, which is our guest...
Chester, you have an image of Fantasma up there? ...is the fact that aside...
Look at that. ...aside from these guys openly and very, very directly giving you their opinion of where they stand...
It might be in Spanish, but the intent and the message is there. ...they have been able to build a subversive army worldwide.
That's true.
How you're not a millionaire, I don't know, Fantasma, but worldwide.
So, right?
Our special guest tonight is Fantasma of Brujeria.
Boy, am I stoked.
And we are going to be discussing Donald Trump and Brujeria and, you know, the Brujeria adventures.
Right now, they're on tour in South America, of course.
But we are fortunate here to have Fantasma, the one and only of Brujeria.
With that, let's just start the show.
Chester, take it away.
When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.
They're not sending you.
They're not sending you.
They're sending people that have lots of problems.
And they're bringing those problems with us.
They're bringing drugs.
They're bringing crime.
They're rapists.
They're bringing crime.
They're bringing crime.
And they're bringing drugs.
And they're bringing drugs.
And they're bringing drugs.
And they're bringing drugs.
And they're bringing drugs.
And they're bringing drugs.
Viva Mexico!
Matando Hueros!
Matando Hueros!
Viva Mexico, cabrón!
Viva Mexico!
Viva Mexico!
Viva Mexico!
Viva Mexico!
Viva Mexico!
Viva Mexico!
Viva Mexico!
Viva Mexico!
Viva Mexico!
Viva Mexico!
Viva Mexico!
You're not the one that's in love with me!
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And now, here with an unlimited supply of misinformation, is Mr. All right.
Colas de Rata.
Boy, do I miss that.
Lost Johnny, what did we hear?
Well, you named the song, Pally.
You know the band, Brujería, from their second record, if I'm not mistaken.
Brasa Odiada restarted the set with also Brujería.
Matando Hueros.
Oh, man.
Matando Hueros.
I have not stopped listening to that record since it came out oh so many years ago.
After that, we heard The Obsessed on The Hunt from their record Incarnate.
After that, we heard an awesome rendition of Strategic Warheads featuring Napalm Death with Oscar Garcia on the mic.
I was at that show, and it was fucking amazing.
Also, we heard The Melvins, Zodiac from the record Bullhead.
I actually saw that record being played in its entirety when The Melvins did their residency at Spaceland.
Very cool.
After that, we heard Warriors of Ice.
Excuse me.
From the record War and Pain from Montreal's own Voivode.
And they are playing very soon at Ziv Whiskey.
You should go to their show because it's very cool.
And we started the set properly with Ozzy.
As we're listening to right now, a little bit of music.
Over the Mountain from Diary of a Madman.
And we heard Canada's own The Rods, Power Lover from the record Rock Hard.
How could you miss that one, kids?
After that, we heard Suburban Home from South Bay's own Descendants.
Milo Goes to College.
It's a classic record, kids.
You got to have it.
Speaking of classics, we heard The Germs, Lexicon Devil from their three-song EP.
After that, we heard another gem of the East Bay.
Too Drunk to Fuck by the Dead Kennedys from Fresh Fruit of Rotting Vegetables.
If you don't have it, get out of my country.
After that, we heard Minneapolis' own Husker Dude.
Broken Home, Broken Heart from their classic double record, Zen Arcade.
Counselor, take it away.
All right.
We're going to be dedicating this show to...
Two good friends of ours here in Los Angeles.
Nick Rocha of the Death Kings.
You miss me, Nick?
Yeah.
Thinking of you.
Who's going through some severe health issues there.
Hopefully, he'll be okay.
He's a tough guy.
He'll pull through.
And also, Dave Crocker of Utero.
For those of you...
Ah, yes.
Please go on my Facebook wall, and we're trying to raise some money for Dave Crocker.
He's going through a fucking hard time.
My question is, where's my fucking GoFundMe account?
I'm fucking broke, too.
You know what I mean?
Well, you know, paying for pissing hookers isn't really that much of a benefit.
Anyways, we're going to dedicate both these guys.
We're going to dedicate the show to you.
All right.
Let's get to our guest here.
I want to say it had to be somewhere around 1988 or 89 when I was fortunate enough to not only meet my guest here, but you gave me a little 7-inch, which was on...
I think it was a test set.
It was a 7-inch, by the way.
I wonder how much it's worth now.
Maybe I could sell it.
On alternative technicals, you were a part of a band at that time that was extremely underground.
And boy, oh boy, if I recall correctly, this was after the Matamoros kidnapping of the American citizen in the satanic ritual.
Much to be said about timing.
This is before...
Let me make this clear, because much like Aslan Underground, boy, oh boy, have you guys been ripped off latently.
This is before anybody was really capitalizing on not only ethnicity, the Latino, Hispanic, Mexican crusade and struggle and the...
Lifestyle shit, man.
I mean, you know, it's been almost 25, 30 years later, and now Mexico and South America are big metal commodity fucking areas where these big acts go and tour big markets.
They still don't get the respect that they deserve.
But anyways, backtracking.
Rujeria.
My guest today, Fantasma, thank you for being here.
Thank you, gentlemen.
It's a pleasure to be here.
How long has it been?
It has been over 25 years, right?
26.
26 años.
26 years of say, say, say.
Yeah, that's right.
Now, let me get this straight.
We grew up during the Reagan era, and then you went to war when we had Governor Pete Wilson.
And here we are again with Trump.
When does the Mexican bashing end?
When are we going to learn the lesson?
When does the Mexican bashing end?
Well, we'll see in November, I guess.
You know, we'll see where the real power, where the real poder de la gente lies.
Let me ask you.
Let me ask you this, because worldwide, here is a band that has really, and I say this very sincerely, has globally, globally.
Taken a stand and has gone and grown throughout all these demographics, not only Latin America, but also in Europe.
But I'm assuming that in South America and Mexico and Central America, you have a huge following.
When you go down to those countries, my question to you is, are you fucking nuts?
Does it freak you out?
Does it freak you out playing?
There's like, dude, there's no legalities down there.
The security ain't like at the forum.
You got to put it out of your head.
Right.
Put it out of your head.
Those are real riots.
There's shows.
There were shows.
There was one show in Venezuela.
I guess what was the name of the town?
Guess what?
The military shoots real bullets down there.
Yeah, it was at the Vic D'Avalio Stadium.
Any baseball fans remember the great Oakland A's shortstop?
Or maybe it's, I believe it's an outfielder, Vic D'Avalio from Venezuela.
He has his own stadium named after him down there.
Right.
But man, there were people.
There were people, you know, after the show, you're hearing gunshots in the parking lot and, you know, escorted off the stage with guys with shotguns.
You know, they're pumped, man.
They're, you know.
Are you sure that wasn't Boyle Heights?
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
That was.
Thank God you were, thank God you were, you know, you were raised in Los Angeles.
That was Venezuela.
Yeah.
But I mean, you know, being in a, from LA, you could deal with that fucking shit.
Right.
You weren't completely rattled by the experience.
It was.
It was.
It was really, even being from, from the, the great Ciudad de Los Angeles.
It was, it was, it was a trip.
It was a little artist.
It was crazy.
It ain't Highland Park.
No.
No.
It ain't El Cerrito.
Let me ask you this.
When you, in this question, obviously, over two decades of you touring and traveling these remote parts of the world, but especially in Mexico and Latin America, when you're playing to these audiences.
Obviously, they're really in tune with what you're saying.
Obviously, they're embracing the message that, that, that you're, you know, presenting because there is a form of bashing, a form of discrimination, a form of outcasting people from, you know, these countries, even our own race, even amongst us, you know, between the Chicanos and the Mexicanos and, you know, there's this whole crime society type of thing.
But when you're out there playing to these audiences, how do you feel that, number one, you're inspiring them and, and giving them an identity and, and, you know, bringing some sort of happiness in their life.
And then at the same time, you're inciting these fucking insane motherfuckers that probably fucking cause a riot and have the military.
I mean, they've been waiting years to see this.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, to, to address one of the parts of your question there, I mean.
You know, I'm talking the truth.
Yeah.
Right.
It's gotta be scary, dude.
You know, there's a lot of, there's a big percentage out there that, that, uh, they, they know that, that Brujo and myself are, you know, they're, we're basically grown up here.
So there's people that say, ah, they're just pochos, you know.
Do you get that discrimination?
Oh, yeah.
Do you really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're just pochos and, you know, it's a fake act and, and, but the, you know, the proof now, the proof is like, okay, forget about all that.
That stuff.
Yeah.
When we go to play a show down in, in Buenos Aires or San Paulo and the kids come out, it's, it's, it's genuine, man.
They're, they're down with it.
They know what's, what's being presented on the records.
They know the words.
Yeah.
And it's funny, Brazilian kids know the words better than some of the kids in, in Spanish speaking countries.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, but you can tell that, that the music is connecting with them.
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You know, that's what came out.
I mean, the reason we did the band in the beginning was Brujo and I would hang out at these East LA backyard parties.
Right.
And see these bands, especially bands that they were, you knew they were from, you know, they'd just been here a couple years.
At least, you know, with the singer, the guy trying to sing.
And he's speaking in this broken English.
I said, why isn't the fucking guy just speaking his own language?
Yeah.
In Espanol way, you know.
And so that was kind of the trigger there.
We could do this.
Let me hit you with two mature questions.
Because we are technically mature.
We are mature.
Even though we don't act it.
Last time I checked.
Here's the deal.
Do you find yourself when you created this band and then all these decades later, do you feel that you've instilled a form of respect for our ethnicity, especially?
The Chicano race and the Mexicano race where there is this drift, this separation.
But when it comes to a brujería show, everyone's united.
Yeah.
Well, those separations and those divides existed long before the band was around.
Way long.
You know, and they're going to be there long before.
Way after.
Long after, you know, we're gone.
So.
Even after the wall.
Yes.
La pared de muerte.
But it's.
Well, I mean, it kind of illustrates how important a band can be in the sense that once you cross into that club, backyard, wherever, all those lines that you just described dissolve.
You know what I love about your shows?
That's about the that's the identifying quality of good music or good art in general.
Yeah.
And I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I that they're there voluntarily and they have no fear?
Yeah.
Does it blow your mind?
Because if I went to a show, they're saying, Matando Mexicanos, I'd be like, I'm fucking out of here.
Well, you know, it's no different than singing along to Molestando a Muertos Niños.
I had no part of that one, by the way.
Probably back and out of there.
Because that's a badass song, by the way.
And, you know, kudos to Brujo for sticking to his guns with that song because the controversy that started.
And I even said, man, this may sink us, man.
Did you cringe too?
I said, this is going to sink the band, man, putting something out like this.
Like, what are you doing?
You're going to fuck shit up.
The head of Roadrunner, you know, Case Wessels, he's like, we're not going to put, we're not going to put some shit out like this.
What the fuck's wrong with you guys?
Yeah.
It took convincing and arm twisting.
Come on, it's really funny, dude.
I mean, I was watching a Tom Petty documentary today where they didn't want to release his, fuck, one of his albums.
I'm like, dude, they released that record and they don't want to release, and they released yours?
Like, what's going on?
Yeah, come on.
And it was, you know what it was?
You know, there's that famous footage now.
It's famous now.
But back then, the first time we saw it, you know, that the CHP chasing that truck with, you know, all the mojados in there and the, they start scattering, like the truck starts falling apart.
Oh, right, yeah, yeah.
There's like, you know, 30 dudes in the, Back of the truck?
In the bed.
Yeah.
And they just come out and they start swinging and, you know, scattering through the hillsides.
That was the, the impetus for that song.
Was it?
Yeah.
Nice.
That's, that's, that's where it started.
My second question to you is, is you guys do have very, controversial lyrics, very controversial imagery, very controversial.
Very graphic.
Very graphic, you know, in your face, very raw, very, very dangerous.
That was the idea.
When you are traveling, it's, it's, it's the idea and it's safe to have this idea in the United States of America.
But when you are traveling to these Latin American countries or in some of them, they may not be so understanding.
They may not have the ACLU.
Have you had, any difficulty in these countries?
Not, not yet.
Never.
And, and, You've never been monitored or followed or?
Not that we know of.
Not that I know of.
Not, you know, not to say that that hasn't happened, but if it did, we weren't aware of it.
You know what I mean?
Chile does have a, you know, very interesting history.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
El señor Pinochet.
Yeah, right.
Has, Does that ever enter your mind before, in the past?
Well, in the past, you know, before, before, because the idea, originally, the idea of the band was just to make records and never play.
Right.
To keep it a mystery and keep people guessing and that would get, keep people, as long as we'd made records.
Did that drive you nuts?
Not really.
Really?
You didn't want to come on and say, hey, it's me.
Not in the beginning, no.
It was great because it worked.
It worked for, you know, people would put out one record and, and.
You wouldn't let it slip a little bit to like some chicks at a party?
Like, hey, you know, that's me.
Well, no, you know.
Come on, dude.
The right people knew, you know.
So the right people knew and, and so it worked in that way but it, the mystery was great because it worked and, and the, the record company jumped on it too.
Oh, hell yeah.
The promo department would, had a field day, you know, writing all these, coming up with all these stories.
So it, it worked and it sold records.
So, so why fix something that ain't broke?
Right.
Right.
You know.
You've been traveling all over the world.
Where would you say, including North America, where would you say the audiences really embrace what you're about?
By all means, South America.
Right.
And Mexico, of course.
Mexico and, and, and Argentina, Peru, Chile, Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, all those places.
Every, every one of those places.
Especially the first time you get there.
That first show when you go to Caracas.
I can say this for, I can say this with authority.
And when I was in Argentina, I saw more than a few Brujeria shirts, swag, hats, stuff like that.
Yeah, the first, it's out there, man.
The first show we played in Buenos Aires in Argentina was just months before in the same building.
The building's called República Cromañon where they had that tragedy on a New Year's Eve.
I don't know if you remember that.
I do remember that.
That was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that's funny that you mentioned that.
I can't remember what year that was.
Was it 2006, maybe 2005?
The tragedy there, man.
I don't know how many people died, but it was New Year's Eve.
A band, I think they're Los Callejeros were playing and like a fan brought a flare gun.
Yeah.
And shot the flare gun.
It went off and it lit the roof on fire.
I guess there was some kind of foam like, you know, great white.
Yeah.
Kind of a great white type of thing.
Oh boy.
Talk about stick it.
And they, you know, the doors, the rear exit doors were chained because they had a problem with, you know, keeping people out.
Or keeping in.
Yeah.
You know, because kids would open up the door and let like another hundred kids would pile in.
So they had those chain, those doors chained up and locked.
So that was, we played there, I think it was August, July or August.
And that happened on New Year's Eve.
Oh wow.
Wow.
So that was in Argentina and that was one of the craziest, that was like 2,000 people in a hall in Argentina and they were primed.
You know, that was like, it's the first, that first show is always the one.
I asked you about overseas.
Let me ask you about here in the United States.
Have you been monitored or have you been contacted by any form of law enforcement or government agencies?
Never.
Especially, even though it's an artistic thing, expression, but you know, the affiliation with cartels or what have you.
Never.
Especially these last 15, 20, I would say these last 15 years with the, the massive explosion of cartel.
Senor Cabs, I can tell you with all honesty, zero times.
Now let me ask you this.
If it's happened, I don't know about it.
Have you been contacted by cartels when you were out in Mexico?
No.
Are you aware that Maybe Brujo, but not me.
Are you aware that some of these cartel affiliates are Brujeria fans?
I, Thank you for buying this shirt and come to my party.
That's, Maybe some of those party favors you get are directly from Senor himself?
In Italy, in Italy, we played a, a party for, for a biker club.
Oh, wow.
Jesus.
That's not terrifying.
That was the craziest shit, man.
It was in Italy in this like really far way out of, we had to drive forever to get there.
And, you know, that's how that movie Greenlight, Green Room starts.
Just joking.
And it was crazy, man.
You know, half the guys, I didn't think they knew what we were about.
It was only like three or four members of the club that were like, you know, the hardcore fans and the rest of the dudes and their old ladies are hanging out.
What the fuck is going on?
What are we doing here, man?
It's like, all right.
Brujeria.
We gotta do it.
Brujeria, for those of you that are familiar with this incredible band, you know, let me tell you what I really appreciate about this band the most.
Aside from just being way extreme in a genre of extreme music where the so-called extremity, which is, you know, usually the violence, the sex, the Satanism, it's been over.
It's been done, dude.
It's been done.
I thought that when you created this project, it was refreshing.
It was dangerous as fuck because, number one, it has an element of realism.
Even though your characters, hope you don't mind me saying that.
I'm saying that for anyone who's monitoring.
Right.
You know, your characters.
Right.
This is just artistic.
But just to think that in the real world, there are elements like this.
You know, there are, there are.
Well, again, you know, as you mentioned earlier, a major inspiration for the band was the, the unfortunate kidnapping of a kid down in, in Matamoros.
You know.
What a way to pay tribute to him.
From, I guess they were from what?
Brownsville?
Yeah.
University.
I don't know the school there.
But I guess.
You know what?
How hot, how hot was the bruja that, that motherfucker thought he was gonna get some pussy and he just followed her right into that fucking wrench.
Right.
But I guess it was, you know, I guess Matamoros is the party town.
Right.
For, for it's, it's the, the TJ of.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of South Texas.
South Texas.
You know.
So, unfortunately, but that, that story was.
Frightening.
It, it, it.
Shocking.
It, like with me and Brujo, cause, you know, I've known Brujo since I was 13.
And that, that story was like, wow, man, this, that and, and Noriega in Panama.
When they were trying to, you know, oust him.
Yeah.
You know, the US trying to oust him and he had like a, there was articles that he had like Santeria altars.
Yeah, the altars.
In his, in his thing, you know, and there was like, photos of his supposed altar, all that stuff together.
Did you see the photo of where one of his protection altars, it had eyeballs and you, right?
The, the song Santa Lucia on the, on the Demoniaco EP, the first EP.
There's, you know, all that stuff, all that coming together.
It was the time, you know, it was the time.
It was all, it was the perfect storm.
All that coming together, us hanging out at these East LA backyard parties, watching these bands and, and just, you know, habla espanol, cabrón.
Yeah, right.
And look at you now.
And, and so, so, so there you go.
And those guys, you know, I'm, I'm sort of, I took a break from the road.
Yeah, cause they're on tour right now.
They're on tour right now.
They're on tour in South America.
Yeah.
I think last night was San Paolo, Brazil.
Tonight is, uh, uh, Santiago and Chile.
Chester, do you have an image of Brujeria on the, on tour in South America?
No.
Oh, hey, no, not that one.
That's, uh, let's see.
We're here.
We'll find it.
Close.
Almost.
That was after a festival.
There we go.
There we go.
There's the fuck Donald Trump tour.
Let's see that.
There you go.
The fuck, wow.
That must be successful because I mean, you know, uh, talk about bringing in the fucking, uh, the audiences.
Uh, not only is Donald Trump not very favorable in, uh, Latin and, uh, South America and Mexico, all over the world.
You know that all over the world, they think we're nuts here in the United States.
Yeah.
Literally.
Every continent.
Think about it.
Think about it.
I mean, how, how, you know, someone who doesn't have any, how is it that you, any experience in government?
How is it that you and I have, how is it that you and I, here I am, 46 year old guy who's still fucking, you know, it's like a fucking Peter Pan.
Here you are with a fucking bandana over your fucking mouth.
Right?
And we have more common sense and intelligence than these motherfuckers that are trying to run.
They're trying to get the kids to a very big house.
Oh my God.
I mean, you know, running a bit, you know, running a, there's, there's a lot to be said for, for being a successful, successful businessman, running success, successful businesses and keeping them running.
And, you know, but that's, that's being a part of government, man.
There's a lot of, it's a, it's, it's a whole different beast.
It's a game, man.
It's a whole game that takes a lot of years to learn.
And, but tell me, this isn't perfect material for you right now.
It's a fucking gold mine.
Oh yeah.
Right?
It's a fucking gold mine.
Perfect.
It's a fucking gold mine.
The wall.
All right.
Brujeria released.
Let's build the wall.
I'm actually for the wall, but don't get me started.
Don't get me started.
Okay.
So Brujeria released an EP on Nuclear Blast Records on, of all days, Record Day.
Record Store Day.
Record Store Day, which is April 16th.
Talk to me a little bit about that.
These are, this is new material.
This brand new material.
It's been a while.
It's been a while since you released new material, correct?
Well, there was another seven inch about a year ago.
2014, right?
Yeah.
Two years ago.
And what am I saying?
I did kind of flies like, yeah, right.
But it was the, during the, the world cup.
Right.
The, the Mexico campeon, which unfortunately did not come to pass.
But, the, there's also a great version, our version of California, California, California Uber Aslan.
That's right.
And, that was, that was the last, release to come out.
But now, since that time, we've come to an agreement with Nuclear Blast Records.
And, they were kind enough to, do this Record Store Day release.
A thousand press, very highly limited edition.
Wow.
250 black.
Nice.
And then, another 250, 50 each of green, red, and white.
Awesome.
The colores de la bandera mexicana.
Right.
And, so there's a thousand of those.
Is there any way I could get one?
There may be a way to, work that out.
Because I've heard, you know, even though Brujo is very proud of his heritage, I heard there's like a little Jewish in the Matoa.
I heard he wears a yarmulke with that fucking, machete.
Zing.
Anyway, he's, but yes.
Mazo soup.
Yes.
Viva Mexico.
La jaim.
Why don't we play, we're going to be playing.
Yeah, well, but just to do a little more introduction there.
You like Mazo soup?
It's two songs.
Two songs.
Viva Presidente Trump on the A side, B side, Pared de Muerte.
So.
Where do you stand on the wall?
Before we get to this music, where do you stand on this hole?
It's, it's, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's too late.
Too little, too late, daddy.
Yeah.
Too little, too late, brother.
About a hundred years too late, pal.
Yeah, it's just, come on, man.
If you wanted to do that, the time to do that was, you know.
There's tunnels, motherfucker.
Yeah, it's too little, man.
50 years ago, man.
You know, so.
Well put, Fantasma, well put.
All right, why don't we, we're going to be playing some new brujeria right now.
This is off that, uh, seven inch that you mentioned, and this is off nuclear blast.
What's the title of it?
Viva Presidente Trump.
Viva Presidente Trump.
Chester, take it away.
Okay, let's get one thing straight here.
Mexico is not our friend.
Mexico is laughing at us.
We're not friends.
We're not friends.
We're not friends.
We're not friends.
We're not friends.
Mexico is laughing at us.
And you want to know why they're laughing at us?
Because every day they're dumping their garbage in our country.
They're sending over their rapists.
They're sending over their drugs.
They're sending over their criminal scum.
And we're doing nothing about it.
But I'm going to stop all that.
You elect me president of the United States.
I, Donald J.
Trump.
I have a plan.
I'm going to build a wall.
I'm going to build a great wall across our city.
And I'm going to build southern borders.
We'll see you next time.
Mexico is not our friend.
Mexico is not our friend.
Mexico is not our friend.
Mexico is not our friend.
Mexico is not our friend.
Mexico is not our friend.
Mexico is not our friend.
There you are, bastard.
Alto, alto.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but was that like Brujeria decapitating Donald Trump there?
Just use your imagination.
It kind of leads you to believe.
Let your imagination run wild.
Oh, wow.
It's theater of the mind, counselor.
It's theater of the mind.
Theater of the mind.
Lost Johnny, what did we hear?
Wow, we just heard the great, awesome Viva Presidente Trump.
And I think in honor tonight, it should not be counselor, it should be licenciado.
Ah, abogado.
Abogado cabs.
There you go.
Now, this is out now, correct?
Yes.
Well, it's also available, I believe.
Uh, for digital.
Now, you can get on digital release, yeah.
Does it fucking blow your mind, front and back, that in this day and age...
iTunes.
You know, digital.
I mean, we come from the era of, go buy the fucking, go buy the thing.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Go buy the record.
But you can't.
But now it's digital.
You can't, because there was only a thousand and all these motherfuckers went and bought it all up on that day.
Right?
Yeah.
They had to have the red.
They had to have the white.
They had to have the red.
They had to have the green one.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
They had to have it all.
Meanwhile, fucking none of them are fucking fucking digital.
And now they're flipped.
Now there's, you know, there's dudes selling all three.
Yeah.
You know what?
As a matter of fact, they're not selling them in MacArthur Park, so I'm pissed.
Let me tell you, there's a Mexicano that we know that I'm dying to drop his name.
He's probably signing him on eBay right now.
He'll probably be doing some petería with you guys when you guys play here as well.
Hopefully Trump will fucking throw his ass out soon.
Fingers crossed.
Let me ask you this.
When you're performing...
Right.
When you're singing these songs...
Right.
To these audiences, do you find yourself in any way, shape, or form kind of thinking after your performance, what can possibly happen?
You know?
I mean, because I've been to your performances here in Los Angeles when you're singing Matando Hueros, and I've seen like a bunch of drunk Mexicans surround the poor white boy there.
Right.
I mean, thank God I've never seen him get beaten or nothing.
But I mean, it's kind of frightening.
You know what I mean?
Well, you know, we don't advocate that.
Of course not.
Far from it, man.
You know, we want everybody to have a good time and go home.
But you know in this day and age, I mean, there's a bunch of fucking Mark Chapmans out there, man.
I mean, dude, I have my own stalkers and I'm a nobody.
I mean, when I'm on stage, I'll keep an eye out for that.
Do you?
Yeah.
And I'll, you know, usually like try and make friends with one of the security dudes that's maybe like a cooler guy and say just, you know, just keep an eye out for this kind of stuff.
You're not keeping an eye out for like some guy.
You know what the craziest shit I ever saw was, man?
What?
In Bolivia, in La Paz, in La Paz, Bolivia, man, where they, you know, not too many bands go there because it's, you know, the altitude's really high and the economy is.
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
So they can't afford, you know, like to bring in these big touring packages and stuff.
But we played there, man.
And the security guys were freaking out.
They didn't know.
You know, they didn't.
I think it was the first or second time they ever dealt with like a metal crowd.
Okay.
Wow.
You know, and the police were there.
There was like a few police and the crowd was getting crazy and the police gave up.
They just left.
Did they really?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
So they did like a fucking 19, like a fucking Rodney King South Central thing.
They just bailed out.
They just bailed.
And then there was these security guys and one security guy came in with a taser.
Oh.
And you know that.
And the taser makes a very distinctive noise.
When you hear it, you know it right away.
That like, it's almost like a click.
Yeah.
Like a clicking.
And I heard it and I saw the guy and I saw the little blue sparks going and he was going right at the crowd, man.
He was just going to start.
Just wailing.
He was just wailing at whoever.
Taking out whoever was ever in his way, man.
Damn.
And it was like, para, chico, no haga eso. ¿Qué estás haciendo?
What are you doing, man?
No, you know, that was, that was an eye opener, man.
That was in La Paz.
Yeah.
Let me ask you this.
I was going to ask you about females on the road.
I mean, you know, when you're up on stage, I've been to some of these Latin countries.
They got some fucking amazing fucking, Angelina, Angelina Jolie, fuck her, dude.
She's a B squad.
Whatever is considered sexy in America, fuck that.
Yeah.
Get it for Ashton, whatever.
Shakira.
Dude, I've been to these Central American countries.
When you're walking down the street and these fucking women are fucking gorgeous.
And that's the standard chick.
Are you David Lee Roth in fucking Columbia?
Are you David Lee Roth?
Are you getting some of that tailwind?
In the old days, we're going way back.
You know, this is in the days when we were single.
Okay.
And, you know, that's not the case these days, but.
Is that why you're not touring no more?
Well.
I just, man, it's, it's the life on the road is hard, man.
Yeah, it is.
It's really hard.
Talk to me about this tail.
Well, you know, you know, you just, you know.
Do they look at you all like, ah, dreamy-eyed?
There's.
You're like the Ricky Martin fucking of, you know.
There's one time, yeah, where the David Lee Roth theory was tested and proved.
So, it was good, you know.
Do you give them the fucking.
You point out someone you'd like to meet.
And the next thing you know, they're standing right there.
Oh, you bastard.
On the stage.
So, yeah, it's, it's.
Are Central American or South American women groomed?
Inquirers want to know.
Depends on the year.
Right?
What, time of year?
Like autumn or.
Well, it's the summer.
No, 25 years.
No, depends on the, on the, on the time period we're talking about.
Did you get some of that like fucking vintage fur?
They're a little, they're a little behind.
Did you get some of that Colombian vintage fur?
Let's just say there was.
Uh.
Peruvian Nalga hair?
Hiking, hiking through the forest.
Yes.
Did you give them the morning after pill after?
Because you could buy that shit in pharmacies over there.
It was no need.
No need for that.
All right, let's get into some serious stuff here.
Oh, God, I, I would love to hear your stories about.
You know, in Colombia, did you fucking nail some of that shit?
Because, Jesus, every chick out there is like Shakira with the glasses.
There's no comment.
There's no comment.
Brujeria is on tour right now in South America and then they'll be going to Europe.
Will you be joining that tour?
I will not be in Europe.
Okay.
But the jury's out on the, the, the, the new album is coming out in September.
Uh.
On Nuclear Blast Records.
Yes, on Nuclear Blast.
All new songs.
All new, brand new.
Everything, you know, brand new.
I mean.
How does, how does the writing process go through that?
How do you guys go through that?
Uh.
If everybody contributes?
Are you guys all writing collectively?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's everybody.
Uh.
Uh.
Uh.
Uh.
But, you know, pretty typical process.
Everybody, you know, has their little riffs and.
Now, it's been, it's been reported and it's very well known, but we're not going to mention it here on the show, who the other members of the band are.
Uh.
But.
I mean, it's, it's, it's almost, you know, public knowledge is like one click away.
Okay.
Well.
To find out.
Right.
So it's no, you know.
So do they come with material as well?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Because, because they're, they're, they're writing, you know, for their other bands.
How does that work?
I mean, it's encouraged.
Because if you've got, you know, one person that's applying all the ideas, stuff gets.
Mundane.
It gets.
Predictable.
Kind of rote, you know.
Predictable.
And, and you want the variety of, of different, different ideas.
So do you sit in front of Noticiero 34 and trying to get intel, trying to get some intel, trying to get some inspiration?
Well.
How does that work?
I'm more of the, the, you know, I'm more concentrated on riffs and stuff like that.
Really?
And bass lines.
Yeah.
As opposed to.
The lyrical.
Leave that to Brujo.
But.
Every once in a while I'll see something that'll click off a, a, a, an idea for a song.
Not specific lyrics.
Lyrics specifically, but an idea.
You know, like a concept for, oh, we could do a song about this.
You know, the, the Pinochet, you know, bombing the, or the, you know, Allende.
So much material.
Allende in 73, you know.
Being that you, being that you travel predominantly.
You tour.
Predominantly.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but like Mexico, Central America, South America, which are very, very heavy religiously institution countries.
Oh yeah.
Do you find yourself any controversy when you go to these?
Well again, you know, you know, I, I had visions of, of people.
There was some protesting in Santiago in Chile.
I think the first time we went there, there was some picketing going on.
Outside.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
the, uh, Diga no a brujo or what the fuck?
Well, no, it's just, you know, uh, you know, well, not, not diga no a brujo, but, you know, diga no al, al diablo en la musica, you know, whatever.
No hay lugar para el diablo en esta musica.
So, stuff like that.
You guys are the Beatles, man.
You're the, I swear, I swear to God.
Dude, well, you're the Beatles without the money, but, uh, you're the Beatles.
You're, you're landing in these countries and you're driving everybody nuts.
You know, all the kids are loving you and all the older institutional faking people are fucking hating you, man.
Right.
Let's talk about the, let's talk about the new record.
It's a beautiful thing.
Right?
It'd be a beautiful thing if you're getting those residuals.
The new record, September, you mentioned.
Yeah, I believe, uh, trying to, trying to get as close to the 16th as a release date as well.
Okay.
As you know, 16 de Septiembre.
Right.
So, uh.
Which, uh, by the way, counselor, uh, is Mexican, Independence Day.
Licenciado, exactly.
The real one.
Does it bother you that on Cinco de Mayo everyone's running around here?
Cinco de Mayo.
I like the Mexicans.
Oh, that's, that's, you know, again.
That's amateur hour.
That's just the, the same question as the, the wall.
It's been, you know, there's no fixing that, man.
Right.
That's been going on and it ain't gonna change.
Oh, hell no.
That's a big money day right there.
That's the, the Puebla battle with the French.
You know, that's a whole nother thing.
But the Independence Day is September 16th.
So, you, you will be releasing it on that day?
A rad, You're planning to?
That's the planned.
Okay.
Right.
And what is the name of the album?
Can you announce that?
Uh, at the, at this time, I believe the working title is Pocho Aslan.
Rad.
Pocho Aslan.
You know what?
Speaking of Pocho Aslan, why don't we discuss, uh, why don't we play a track that we discussed?
Uh, you guys did a cover of the Dead Kennedys.
Right.
California Uber Allies, but you, of course, you added your, your touch to it.
Very proud of that.
And one of the things that I find that is so ironic is, is, it seems to me that anytime we have this political diversity or this, uh, uproar with illegal aliens or the bashing, uh, right at the forefront, and I say this sincerely too, I'm not mocking, there you guys are with something to say.
You're giving the underground, you know, uh, I don't want to just say this, I don't want to say illegal aliens, but overall, everybody, an anthem.
Right.
To fucking just go out and say, fuck this.
Ito Wilson.
You know, from Wilson on, you know, and so, why don't we play this track by Brujeria?
Chester, you fucking Anglo bastard, take it away.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
We'll see you next time.
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The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate The ultimate Love has come And when these lies destroy your life's future Love has come Love has come Love has come Love has come This is the end The time To get out of the game The time to resign Get out of the game Get out of the world Let's reveal Get out of the game The time to resign The time To get out of the game The time to resign And to get out of the fire I'm so sorry I just took a look at your face and I feel no signs I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry Alright Alright Wow what an appropriate song Mama I'm not coming home Not tonight Ozzy get out What do you think about that before we get to you Lost Johnny What do you think about that whole Ozzy You know I'm not too hip to the story but what I am hearing is maybe you know like any other dude on the road I think Ozzy would you know a little finagling there Come on I mean he's made you millions millions All of a sudden now it's a fucking marriage I mean the guy's been fucking chicks and he was all fucked up forever And her dad ripped him off for years Yeah right So we cut him some slack Whatever Alright Lost Johnny what do we hear We started this set properly with with their cover of the Dead Kennedys classic but we worded re-languagized California Uber Aslan After that we heard Birmingham's own napalm death bloodless coup from their latest and pretty awesome record Apex Predator and we ended this particular set with Liverpool's carcass Feticide from the Grime Masters BBC compilation if you don't have this You're fired Much respect for Jeff Let me ask you this Hey Chester Turn that off I don't want to go home god damn it Not only did I hate that song the most Hey let me ask you this A long time ago Dino Car...
What's that fat fuckers name Carden whatever Cazares Cazares was a member of Brujeria That's right And for some reason he left the band correct Right And so then you got these world renowned musicians to join the band Well at the time You know I don't know The story's been told before We were gonna do Tell it again Let's rub it in We were supposed to play Roca al Parque in Bogota, Colombia Which is a huge Huge festival Put on by the state And it's free Oh wow It's in this big stadium In the center of Bogota 50,000 kids And For some reason That There was a conflict in schedule Because Dino had a A recording I guess with Roadrunner All Stars At the time So we had to cancel The The Roca al Parque appearance And that pretty much Sealed his face Sort of signaled to us that well he's you know He doesn't wanna be part of the band anymore So and that Pretty much signaled his exit And At the time Shane was playing bass And I'm sorry Ongo Ongo was playing bass And he himself Came up with the idea Well hey man I'll Play the guitar and we'll get another bass player And eventually Mr. The great Jeff Walker Who we just heard And he Accepted the offer to play bass So my question to you And that's where we are today So my question to you is The great AK though Is the current Guitar player on tour And I AK is a beautiful man Right on My question to you is What were the band sentiments Or you and the band sentiments When Dino formed And took Asesino on the road And formed Asesino Cause to me It seemed How could I word this properly You know what I'm not even gonna word It seemed to me like a fucking A brujeria rip off Well Brujo helped You know helped write and produce The first record No wonder I guess you know You know at the time It was just I guess his Another outlet for him to do some music But Brujo was part of that He wrote a majority of the lyrics Really?
Yeah for that first album And helped produce it So was that band endorsed by brujeria then?
Endorsed by Brujo What are your sentiments?
In the beginning At the time I didn't really care It's just Like I said It was another outlet Another outlet for him to do I guess you know You know it would have been nice To maybe Find another kind of Because you know in a way It was kind of sticking to the same themes So it was almost like Brujeria Junior There was a confusion when that band came out There was a confusion Especially from journalists Wondering if this was kind of like You know like a fucking You know like a happy days Workin Mindy kind of fucking spin off You know I think There was originally a concept What a comparison To do like solo like the Kiss albums You know the Gene record The Paul record And we were all going to do that That would have been rad That would have been fucking awesome But that was the first one I can imagine Brujo singing Brujo But that's where that kind of Started with So you know the first one To come out and the only one to come out Was the Asesino record Will there ever be a Brujeria Asesino tour I doubt it What about a performance I doubt it You know yeah I don't see that in the near future Let's move on Thank you for answering that by the way One of the things that I've always Found interesting is The bands that you have played with Especially in Europe in these big festivals Oh yeah How does it feel to play with Some of these iconic Bands that you and I Or you admire As a kid I mean you played with Kiss With Kiss Did Gene Simmons get what you were doing Or did he look at you like Well there's a photo of me with Paul Stanley To prove it I wish we had it we'd put it up here on the screen I'm a big fan of Santa Lucita Was he a big fan of He was watching us on the On the screen You know because they had The big screens backstage Be careful they're known for stealing Don't get them confused with Led Zeppelin When I asked him to take a photo with him You know we had just We had just gotten off stage I was still sweating But they were milling around I said oh man this is my only chance To get a photo with Paul Stanley So I asked him to take a photo And he says Yeah you were just on stage Right you know Yeah it's the gangster look The gangster look The gangster look And I looked him in the eye And I said Paul everyone needs a gimmick Can I take a photo Sure Who was the biggest disappointment That you played with and you met The assholes Certainly not Gene Simmons Don't be politically correct It certainly was not Gene Simmons Not You know There was one festival Where Amon Amarth Were playing right after us And They just gave us this stare Like when we came We were coming off stage And they just stood there And were giving us this stare it was like uh oh Mexico Caribeño guerra It's about to About to start here what's going on But nah you know I don't pay attention To that stuff man I'm in my own world You know especially Coming off you know Is there anyone that has surprised you Besides Gene Simmons In saying I'm a big fan You know who's really cool And who you just mentioned earlier Mr. Dio Wow wow You're a very nice man And was you know knew about the band Really?
Yeah knew about the band and was like Yeah you know I'm not You know too knowledgeable But you guys got something And I said man are you serious He says yes yes I know I know about you Wow that's cool Well alright Rest in peace brother Ronnie Alright let's talk about And a saludo to fellow Cubano Dave Lombardo Hey are you going to be going to Cuba anytime soon Because that's a new market now Uh Well I don't think going in as Brujeria is going to work with a song like Anticastro There's your answer right there That's not going to work Would you play in Cuba Given the chance hell yeah Yeah right I don't think that's going to happen for another 10 years That ain't going to happen You could always eliminate that from the set list So you know we were talking about A few years ago About doing like But it would be too much work Like everybody would have to come in As a tourist Yeah You know like as an individual tourist Individually I mean they just barely let the Rolling Stones in I mean I don't know if they want to go from the Rolling Stones to Brujeria Although that would be cool Alright Brujeria is on tour As we mentioned in South America right now As we speak they'll be going to Europe And then they come back in the summer And then they come back There's a show here in North America In October Chester do you have the flyer for that I think it's the California Death Fest These are from the No that's Bulldozer The California Death Fest This is the promoters of the Maryland Death Fest There we go That was a trip We played Maryland Death Fest That's when I was still doing the live shows That was back 2013-2014 And that was great Because I thought here we are on the East Coast Man Did they get it Well there was Raza there I couldn't believe it There's Raza everywhere dude But there of all places Like roaches everywhere I couldn't believe it And they were there and they showed up in numbers to support So it was a surprise Let me ask you this Do you support any political movements Or any candidates Or anything that has to do with You know The Hispanic coalition Or an advancement Or anything like that Well Not any specific political movements But Are you a Bernie guy Yeah Good Yes yes yes You're right But isn't it sad that he has no chance It's It's a tragedy man But you know Because big business Runs this country Money Big business runs the show They run the show man Just like that Rush song Big money And the chasm between You know the middle class is fucking evaporating Do you think there will be a revolution Here in the United States Not Only if it's on Instagram Not in the traditional sense Of the word But Because that will never happen man You know You know The military strength to deal with Other countries You know think about Anything like that would be squashed in a second Yeah I mean the cops are just as heavily armed If not more so than most of the Most armies in the world What do you think What are your opinions and what do you think about The proposed wall that Trump is You know Well you asked me earlier And I'll say it again It's too little too late What do you think about The ex Presidente Fox apologizing To Trump after fucking You know taking such a strong stance I think that was the stupidest thing he could have done Don't you think it's kind of suspicious Don't you think maybe he got a check in the mail That first His first reaction was honest It was honest So why recant that He's not in office I mean fuck him I think he got a check Money talks And by the way you know Everybody's talking It was a rage a while ago But there's that show Narcos On Netflix that everybody is raving about Fuck that shit man There's a great show In Colombia It's four years old now In 2012 Pablo Escobar El Rey What is it El Rey del Mal El Patron del Mal Is this on Netflix It's on Netflix It's 74 episodes long Wow So it you know That's a commitment The stuff that Narcos covers in maybe 10 minutes An episode gets maybe two or three episodes Like the When they assassinate La Rabonilla the Minister of Justice That you know they tell the whole story Behind how that happens They go in depth Is this how Fantasma spends his free time Fantasma spends his time A lot of time in front of the idiot box Hey at least you know I do it too You know we're learning Me encanta la television Right now you can download The new 7 inch Viva Presidente Trump Viva Presidente Trump On Nuclear Blast record Brujeria new music With the B side Pared del Muerte Which we're gonna play right now In September September 16th hopefully The day of Mexicano Independence Day The real one You will get a full length album of Brujeria Pacho Aslan Possibly a couple of dates in the United States With the exception of There's the Oakland Death Fest A tour A US tour after the record comes out Will you be part of that somehow Possibly a few dates Okay Here and there There cannot be a Brujeria show without Fantasma Let me just say why As a fan for over 25 years Let me just say this The band has such a magnetic Attraction With each character Each persona Each persona Each identity It can survive And you know it can go without one or two But at the end of the day you want to get the full complex Being that you're one of the Founding members I must say I say this respectfully What an incredible Achievement artistically Musically and Entertainment To be able to combine The hardships The negativity The shit of real world Without sacrificing the reality of it And make it entertaining And make people laugh And have a great time Well that's the thing laughs That's a great achievement I mean all you have to do is be pointed to the Marijuana single That came out Long ago with the The sense of humor of Brujeria is indeed Not only I would say almost Life saving in this day and age Because life is just so Suffocating The reason why I really Respect and appreciate what you and Brujeria do is because you're able to As I mentioned before bring The hardships The negativity The evil of this world and spin it into Such a comedic way Where we all have a great time And at the end of the day It's just a great show overall Thank you for being here Thank you very much I hope I worded that properly I had a weed that you guys smoked We're gonna end the show with The track that we've been talking about La pared de la muerte Now and this is not about the The wall Really?
This song is about the I'll tell you it's about the German wall The wall of death In the European festivals Ah yeah They just cut like brain hearts And but yeah Get your nipples to one side And then they go I love it There you go You know how frightening that is though When you've seen that The first time I saw that Isn't that frightening?
It's fucking scary Do you know that when I go to shows I mean I still frequent shows Not as often as I used to But when I go to these underground shows I stay clear away from that shit It's frightening as fuck I saw that the first time it was Hatebreed In Germany I said this is what are these people doing?
I mean it's one thing to do it in a circle And you smack someone by accident But you're running at someone at full fucking force No no thank you Full fucking force You know that I still have friends that are my age That they think they can fucking Jump into these pits And then they come out with like lower lumbar Hang up the gloves Right?
Hang up the gloves stand in the back Stand in the back It's like any good athlete sometimes you gotta Smoke the lanyard and hang in the back I wanna thank Fantasma Brujeria for being here Thank you so much I wish you much success on the new Record that comes out in September Yes Obviously I look forward to seeing you playing with the band Thank you And again what an achievement With that we're gonna end the show This is Pader de la Muerte From Brujeria Make sure you go to Nuclear Blast check it out Keep an eye on September 16th for the full list Hasta la proxima Take it away Take it away Have a nice Labor Labor Labor Have a nice Labor Labor Labor Have a nice Labor Labor Labor I want to see the crazy, the craziest, the bravest on one side.
Here on the other side, who are we?
The bald, the coconut, the tariwano.
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