It lives 50 feet beneath the streets. It's 36 feet long. It weighs over 2,000 pounds. And it's about to break out. We're looking at the one who saw it. And it was big. You said it was dark. Now, perhaps you're mistaken. An alligator half that size would starve in a week. Once it escaped, there was no way to stop it. It could be anywhere. It would attack at any moment. I've seen what this animal can do. You'd better take all the help you can get. At first, no one believed it. Now, no one will forget it. Alligator. It was just after 9 p.m. at the Grand Floridian Resort and Spa, just across from Disney's Magic Kingdom. The Graves family of four, from Nebraska, three days into their vacation, enjoying the sandy beach. The two-year-old about a foot off the shore of the Seven Seas Lagoon, in ankle-deep water when splashes are heard. The five- to seven-foot gator snatching the toddler. The parents witnessing it all, rushing into the water. The father wrestling the alligator, trying to save his son. But he's unsuccessful, the gator pulling away with the child. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. The Gator. Chomp, chomp Yeah, there's a brand new storm That they're talking about It crawled out of the swamp And opened up its mouth And said to the gator Whip that tear on us Through the gator To this brand new sound Yeah, that's right Yeah Well, you rub your belly Don't fall asleep Fall on the floor You whip your tail And then you go, go, go, go, go, go Through the gator Yeah, you look like a snake Through the gator Oh, this is really great It's a piece of cake And you can do it Yeah That's right Yeah Well, you wiggle around Through the crazy beat You roll across the floor And knock them off their feet Now through the gator Not the crocodile stooping Through the gator This is really wild Even you can do it Come on Ah, this is really wild This is really wild This is really wild And there ain't none greater No, there ain't none greater Than the alligator Let me hear you sing Chomp, chomp, chomp Let me hear you sing Chomp, chomp, chomp Chomp, chomp, chomp Go, go, go, go, go, go, go By the baton Let's go Ah, there ain't none greater Ah, there ain't none greater Than the alligator No Hey, you You gotta make a first out of you Come on Don't stand there With your bare face hanging out Don't jump in the lake What's the matter with you? Come on Do the alligator Do the alligator Do the alligator Do the alligator Wheeeee Yeah If anybody's left standing Doing the sausage and eggs You swim on over And you fight off their legs You do the gating And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river And you can go to the river In that parking lot Do the gator Oh man, oh man, oh man This is really, really hot This is really hot This is really, really hot Oh, I don't stand there with a bare face Take it out, let's go Come on, check it out Do the gator, do the gator, do the gator In the alligator, in the alligator Come on, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it Got it, we're ready Alligator, alligator, alligator Alligator, alligator, alligator Oh, oh, oh, in the alligator In the alligator In the alligator Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, cuz every next gator's a new alligator Oh, not today Oh, not tomorrow Oh, never will be Oh, never won Alligator, alligator, alligator Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Alligator, alligator Oh, cuz every next gator's a new alligator Oh, cuz every next gator's a new alligator It's great. There's likely no question in my mind that the child was drowned by the alligator. Thank you. 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It all looks good. They said it couldn't be done. We may have a man-eating gator in our swamp. There's something out there. It's big. Where is it? Rocky! They said... The little boy's body found intact, not far from where he'd been dragged into the water by that alligator. The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body The Little Boy's Body We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We've also seen duplicators. But now, it's time for the original nature. See you later, alligator. Well, I saw my baby walking. Well, I forgot the man today. Yeah, I saw my baby walking. City babies revenge Orlando, Florida. Wow. Wow. Revenge. Disgusting. Disney will pay. You know what? You can't even fucking try to be humorous with that tragic incident that happened over there in Orlando, Florida with the two-year-old. The two-year-old child, by the way, of Lane Graves. When I first heard of this tragic event transpiring, you know, as you recall or you don't recall, there was a search. Two-year-old child was playing, you know, at the edge of the water there. And an alligator fucking came and grabbed him. And the father tried to fight off the alligator. And the alligator took him. And the first thing I said was, bad parenting again. But since then and since I've looked deep into it, I'm going to have to retract that. Even though I still don't understand why parents would put their child in the corner of the fucking water there. And in Florida, Orlando. No law places. But what are you going to do? All right. You're listening to the very manic Jimmy Cab Show broadcasting live from gentrified, hellacious downtown Los Angeles. Thank you all for listening. Where do we begin today? Chester, how are you doing there? How's it going, man? After this whole tragic... Tragic. Tragic. You know, fuck that tragedy. Father's Day. This happened a couple days ago. That was a fucking nightmare to you, man. How was your Father's Day? My Father's Day was pretty good. I went up to San Francisco and met up with my father who came down from Seattle. Nice, nice. And so did you have a nice, pleasant Father's Day there? Yeah, yeah. Did you thank him for not taking you to the zoo when you were fucking two years old? You know what, man? All I keep thinking about is, what's the deal with the lawyers? Okay, this is one of the things that really bothers me. When it comes to these type of events. Because Disney's got real deep pockets. Here's the deal. There is no way... I predict Disney will just quietly settle this out of court because there's no way in hell that they would want to really drag this out in the courts, have those parents have to testify the... No, there's no way they're doing that. But how do you get a figure? And by the way, how do you deal as a grievance being traumatized, tortured parent, the influx of calls from these lawyers? I mean, I know fucking Jeff Vole is probably trying to get part of that fucking... part of that gravy train. That's a great case. But dude, could you imagine your child just got fucking killed by your negligence somewhat and by an alligator. And all of a sudden, you got all these lawyers calling you saying, hey, we need to represent you. We need to get your best interests at heart. We need to get some of that Disney money. Do you think the amount of the settlement will be disclosed? No, because Disney, even though most big corporations like this, they fight till the end, or if not, they settle out of court. They tend to have confidentiality documentation. I guarantee you in this case, though, due to the circumstances, they'll probably settle, but they'll make sure that it looks like they are not negligent because they're not going to be able to do that. Because, you know, PR-wise, you know, like, the first thing that comes to your mind is, okay, they have a, from what I understand, a very strict policy of natural habitat for the animals that live in the area there. But it's been reported before, it's been documented that they had alligator sightings there. So why not have precautions with, you know, fencing or what have you? Well, when they were searching for the kid, they went through five or six or seven alligators. Yeah. And, you know, mutilated the alligators to try to find kid parts in their stomach. Yeah. So that's enough alligators to know that there's alligators present. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. I think, you know, we'll probably never know what the number's going to be, but I'm guessing between 10 and 20 million. I think one of the tragic things that is going to transpire from all this is, even though it's in the media now, it'll die out, but the fact that this family lost their child, and even though in the beginning, I was highly critical in saying, oh my God, why would you put your fucking child in the water there? From what I've read, from what I've read and from what I've seen in the media, it doesn't look like it was blatant fucking... Well, there was nothing that said anything about alligators. Yeah. It said no swimming. And from... Could you imagine the horror? Yeah. Could you imagine that? It's absolutely terrible. I mean, the father supposedly was trying to fight the alligator off, and, you know, the kid just got drug into the water, and the alligator kept the kid underwater long enough for the kid to drown. Well, I don't know if you know this. The way alligators hunt is when they grab their prey, they immediately take them down to drown them. Right. And then they eat them. So he was just doing... That alligator was just doing what it's meant to do, and unfortunately, this poor child had to pay the price with his life and the family. Could you imagine? Like, no matter what kind of money they get, I mean, can you go to a Mercedes dealership and say, fuck, I'm going to buy that 500SL, even though the money came from my child's death? I mean, how do you move on with that? How do you do that? Yeah, that's got to be a really strange situation. I would tell you right now, if that was me, and I, you know, I got to watch what I say here, but I'm going to be blunt. If that was me, I would definitely be hunting some Mickey Mouse, one by one. You know, that to me right there was just complete negligence on Disney's behalf. If you know that there's fucking alligators around there, you got to notify the fucking public. Enough said. Another thing that really upset me recently, as you know, last week, boy, we got a lot to talk about. Last week, you and I and the peanut gallery here, we were discussing the Orlando, Orlando. Boy, God really does hate Orlando, Florida. Must be all the fucking Cubans over there. We were discussing... We were discussing the tragic events of, you know, the massacre of the homosexuals by that fucking demented individual over there. And of course, as predicted, all... Everybody rose up and started... Starting the campaign again about, you know, gun legislation, stricter policies, bans, et cetera, et cetera. One of the things that I found interesting was that a large population... A large percentage of the population of the homosexual community was starting to buy arms in Florida. But here in Los Angeles, the homosexual... I mean, help me out here, because you're more proficient with the proper terms. The gays and the lesbians and the trannies and the fucking, you know, cross-dressers and the heterosexuals, I mean, all of them were all campaigning to fucking bring more strict legislation. Doesn't it make sense, Chester? Doesn't it make sense, especially after this incident? Arm yourselves. Well, you know, the irony of it is that I had heard that, you know, heard on a local Los Angeles radio station here that the sales of AR-15s have gone through the roof. Of course. And the report is that a large percentage of those people purchasing those guns is members of the LGBT community. Well, I don't understand in regards to why anytime there's an incident like this where there's an outcry for banning guns on the ground. I mean, I don't know. The contrary. Again, it just does not make any common sense. I know the debate on both sides, but here's the deal. The individuals that are going to get these guns and cause mass havoc, majority of the time, you know, are not purchasing these weapons legally. The ones that are purchasing these weapons legally, what can you do with that? You know what? I would say that stricter background checks, but no banning. No banning weapons. No banning weapons. Especially now. I mean, I think, as I mentioned last week, an armed society is a safe society. It's sad, but true. I think if we were all armed, maybe we could avoid these type of situations. Is it a violent culture, Chester, here in the United States? You know... Yes! It absolutely is. We're dicks. We're dicks here. Let's just be honest about it. We're dicks. You know what I mean? Does the world hate us? Yes! I have this theory that... Do we hate each other? Yes! I hate you at times. I mean, it's a violent culture. Go ahead, Chester. I have a theory that there are those that went out and bought a gun after all this stuff goes on, yet what they tell their friends and family is that they're against guns. Guns... It's almost a closet... Yeah, you're a very intelligent guy, you know, aside from all the cannabis you can take. Check out this idea I have. Guns, to me, reminds me of people that are into porn. They love watching it by themselves. You know, they love to jerk off. They love to... But they will not admit it, you know, out in the open. They become, like, this right moral fucking dick. That's how I look at guns. It reminds me of porn back in the day. Would you agree with that assessment? Yeah. Right? You know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no. Strict. They're stricter bands and, you know, this and that. But trust me, they got some guns at home because look at the society that we're in. You know, just yesterday, Chester, here in Los Angeles, the temperatures were... Oh, they were fucking out of this world, dude. 110? Downtown Los Angeles? That's like desert weather, dude. Yeah, that sucks. By the way, you have a wonderful pool here, and I was just fantasizing about dipping in it. For those of you that are not familiar, with the 19th floor We Play Radio Studios, it's luxurious here. It's fucking beautiful. There's a nice rooftop pool, gorgeous women all around that reside here. You know what? I would have loved to have dipped my ass in there. But with the temperatures rising and with all the craziness that's going on in this society, we need three things. We need to start fucking some more. Okay? I think if people were having sex regularly and doing all the sick debaucherous shit that they'd want to, everybody would have been like, you can go to the next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next next some chicks were in there shooting guns. Were they hot chicks? They were young, giddy girls, and they're fucking texting each other while they're shooting guns. And that just freaked me the fuck out. I thought for sure one of these chicks were going to just fucking shoot me in the face. So that kind of shit freaks me out. I think there are some people out there that are too dumb to have a gun. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, how can I argue with that? You're right. There are, you know, the dummy in the society is breeding like rats, man. But what can we say? The weather is really killing me here. Yesterday, I found it interesting. You know, a lot of people were hostile and upset and agitated, obviously due to the weather. But you know who I pissed off yesterday, Chester? Who? Cherry Curry. Do you know who Cherry Curry is? No, I don't. Ever hear of the Runaways? Yeah. Okay, the lead vocalist of the Runaways? Okay. You ever hear of Kim Foley? Yeah. Notorious manager, you know, debaucherous fucker, sick fucker, allegedly, you know, He's still alive or no? No, he died of cancer. He died of cancer. But Cherry Curry, this is interesting. I didn't even know she was a Facebook social media friend of mine. Apparently, she found one of my posts very offensive. It was a post that I made about Lee Aaron, who's a, you know, 80s heavy metal singer from Canada, I believe. And I just hate her. She just annoys me. You know, last week, we had Betsy Bitch here in the studio. And as, you and I and my audience knows, I tend to favor Betsy Bitch. By the way, I heard I was disgusting you last week with my admiration. I wouldn't say disgusting me. I heard you were just really repulsed by her. No, no, that's not true. I heard you were just like, oh, this guy is just too much. You definitely, you definitely made your love for Betsy Bitch well known. Did I go over the top? Was I a little bit too much? Maybe a tad. Really? Could you tell that I wanted, like, you know, that I was fantasizing about having cunnilingus with her? I think so, yeah. Yeah, she's fucking beautiful, man. I mean, she's got to be in her 60s. She's fucking gorgeous, though. But I hope you're right about that. Right? I don't think she'll be a fan if I'm mistaken. The point is, is getting back to Terry Curry. Yeah, she apparently was offended by my comments. And I found that interesting that she would actually take the time. What'd you say? I said something along the lines like, you know what, I would like to choke Leigh-Anne until she fucking pissed and shit on herself and then turned blue. Oh, yeah, I saw that one. And apparently she found that offensive. And I don't know, they're good friends, I don't know what, but it made me rethink the way I, it made me think for a minute. It made me rethink like, you know, maybe I too am falling into this society decay where, you know, people are thinking they're just acting out like fucking animals and, you know, everyone's fucking becoming uncivilized and then add to that 110 fucking degree weather, you know, who knows? Maybe there's some thought to that. So I wanted to thank Terry Curry. Thank you, Terry, for bringing to light my, what I would say, a little break in sanity there. And I had to retract that comment. No, I don't want to choke her until she fucking pisses and shits on herself and turns blue. I'd like to choke her if it was consensual. So there you go with that. All right. Why don't we discuss what we played at the top of the show here? Again, as I mentioned, you know, the tragic events of, of Orlando, Florida, Disney World with the death of Lane Graves. We had a nice little set here that was collaborative, that, you know, was basically, I don't want to say a tribute, but just had to deal with those tragic events. So we heard a track by the Cramps called Alligator Stomp. That was off the Look Mom, no head record. After that, we heard The Baby is Dead. Yeah, this is definitely not, does this sound like a fucking tribute to you, Chester? We heard a track called The Baby is Dead by Society Dog. That's an old hardcore band from the Bay Area. Early 80s. That was off, that track was off the album, off the leash. Then we heard GBH was City Baby Attacked by Rats. How appropriate. You know what I mean? City Baby Attacked by Rats. City Baby Attacked by Alligator, 2016. That was GBH off that record. Also after that, we heard Baby Huey by The Chirps off their Heroin Man record. And then we ended the set with City Baby's Revenge. 101 Ways to Kill a Rat, GBH. One of the things that I want to stress, again, if you are a parent, okay, if you are a parent, if for whatever reason, whether it was by accident or you plan to have a child, you know, pay attention to your children. Pay attention to what you're doing. I mean, I'm not a parent. I have dogs and it doesn't compare. My dogs are dicks. The point is, is when you have a human life, you really got to go out of your way to make sure and secure and really emphasize the safety of your child. When you have a gorilla, when your child falls into a gorilla fucking encampment or a fucking alligator snatches your baby, I mean, listen, it's easy to point fingers, but these are events that might, and I say this somewhat, somewhat not sure, but they could have, they might have been avoided. With that, we're going to start the show. Real quick, Chester, Richie Blackmore is playing around here with his new version of Rainbow. Have you heard of that? No. Are you a Richie Blackmore fan? Not really. Okay. Well, I haven't seen any of the footage. Let me tell you why. I don't want to be traumatized. I don't want to be upset. I don't want to cry. I'm leaning towards giving into this, but you know what? I'd like somebody who, whoever is out there, that has seen this footage, why don't you send me an inbox message on my Facebook, Jimmy Cab's Facebook, and let me know, will I cry? Will I want to kill myself? Will I want to fucking shoot myself in the head? Is it over for Richie? Is it cool? Is he back? What is it? With that, we're going to start this set dedicated to the hellacious weather that we're having here in Los Angeles, which of course is why all these individuals from the East Coast is coming to LA because of the sun. This is why. This is a track called Eternal Summer by Celtic Frost. Take it away, Chester. Take it away, Chester. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We'll see you next time. All right. That song was so great, we had to hear it again. No, no, let's not do that. Scott Riegers has rejoined St. Vitus, and they're going to be touring the state soon. They're going to be coming to a town near you. They're going to be touring with The Skull. So the next track we're going to hear is The Skull. Right, Chester? Sure. Let's crank it. Take it away. School's out, teacher. No, no, please. Ed! The stage! You monster, you monster! Dirt, dirt! Dirt, dirt, dirt! Shut up. Shut up yourself! You're not going to take control of yourself. Do you, coward? Dirt! That's me. Dirt, you're going to get a full shot! I don't care, I don't care! Why don't you go ahead and shoot, boy? Shoot. Go on, go on. Shoot, shoot. I don't care. Huh? Huh? Huh? No!! Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Remember voices calling me In the sunrise of my mind If I only had a reason Not to leave you all behind Closing your eyes Look inside with me Truth is What is Don't you know that I can see now My fears have come before me Still lies in your heart And in my heart In these troubled times Forever will keep us apart Closing your eyes Look inside with me Truth is What is Don't you know that I can see now My fears have come before me Truth is What is Don't you know that I can see now My fears have come before me Still lies in your heart In these troubled times Forever will keep us apart Closing your eyes Look inside with me Truth is What is Don't you know that I can see now My fears have come before me Still lies in your heart In these troubled times Forever will keep us apart Talk to me Talk to me Talk to me Talk to me Once you leave me here In my misery Oh, one day you'll be forgiven But now I have to breathe Closing your eyes Looking inside with me Truth is What is Don't you know that I can see now I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone and he needed to have surgery. So right off the bat, let me say this. If you go to my Facebook page, there's a GoFundMe or just go visit GoFundMe slash GoFundMe.com slash Big Frank. Donate whatever you can. And when I say whatever you can, whether it's 50 cents, a dollar, whatever you can, any contribution is welcome and you'll be repaid in good karma. This Saturday, Chester, do you have the flyer for the Final Conflict event? This Saturday, which is what, the 23rd? Oh, there you go. There's the flyer there. At Alex's Bar, Final Conflict, the incredible Final Conflict. 25th. The 25th, thank you. They're going to be playing this fundraiser show for Big Frank. We have images of Big Frank, don't we? Let's put an image of Big Frank there. Make sure you get out to this show. There you go. There you go. Big Frank, that's Big Frank right there back in the day. What a handsome gentleman there. This individual was the reason why I discovered bands like Void and a lot of the hardcore. There he is right there after his surgery. Looking good, but as most of you know, surgeries are expensive. And in this day and age, none of us are living on the hog. So let's help out Big Frank. Getting back to the show this Saturday, Final Conflict is going to be playing. Why don't we start off with some Final Conflict? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. this amazing event that's going on this Saturday at Alex's Bar. Take it away, Chester. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for taking the time to talk to me and steering me right in the right path of listening to good music. With that, Chester, put up the image of that weather girl that you were talking about from Mexico. Oh, my God. That's her? That's her. That's her, man. That's the weather girl. That's the weather girl. Okay, so. In Mexico. In Mexico. She needs to come to Los Angeles like now. Okay, so this is the weather girl in Mexico. What did you say? Telemundo? Is that? Televisa in Monterey. It doesn't matter. We're jerking off anyways. Let's look at what we had before. Do you have a picture of before when it comes to the weather? Yeah, one moment. Yeah. Oh, my God. That chick's fucking red. Yeah, but I'm the fucking dick. There's millions of men that are turning on to the weather just to see these fucking hot girls. These guys know what they're doing, man. Big Frank, you're in the hospital there, man. Look at it. That's the weather before. Right? It doesn't compare, right? That's the weather now. Oh. Oh, rest in peace, Dr. George Fishbeck. Okay. This is an interview that I conducted with Ron Martinez of Final Conflict. Here in this interview, we discuss, obviously, Final Conflict and the fundraiser show for Big Frank. Take it away, Chester. All right. This is Jimmy Cab's team to broadcast. The Very Mad at Jimmy Cab Show with Ron. This is Ron Martinez of Final Conflict. How are you doing, Ron? Good. Hey, one of the things that's very interesting about Final Conflict is you guys always pop out throughout the decades to play these very unannounced or surprise shows. But this one is not a surprise show. This is a benefit show for Big Frank. It's going on this Saturday at Alex's Bar. Let me ask you right off the bat. Is this Big Frank, the real scary guy from the 80s at Fender's Ballroom in the Olympic? Yes, yes, the same Big Frank. What does this benefit show about? Well, not too long ago, Big Frank suffered a heart attack, and he almost died, actually. His stepdaughter quite possibly saved his life. She performed CPR on him, and he revived, and he's had a major heart surgery, and he survived, and he's actually doing quite well. But the end result is that Frank's not going to be able... to work for the next six months. Now, Frank lives up north near Sacramento as a professional tattoo artist. And so he's going to be out of work. And, you know, he's got a wife and stepkid to take care of. So it basically was a no-brainer for once people had heard through social networking what had happened to Frank, that a lot of the old crew, the bands and stuff, we all started talking. And it was really like, hey, you know, maybe someone could start, you know, organizing benefit shows for Frank. I mean, it was kind of like, it was just a no-brainer. Like, Frank was a very prominent person on the scene in the 80s and 90s in Southern California. He was stage manager for Golden Voice. But I think he was a lot more than that. He kind of doesn't give himself enough credit. Like, a lot of the classic shows that you and I went to didn't... I mean, probably didn't even happen if it hadn't been for Frank being the guy that would tell Golden Voice people, hey, there's this band from New York called the Crumbsuckers. They just released an album. It's blowing up. People want to see them. We should fly them out. And Frank would be the guy that did a lot of special appearances that were like L.A. only. But it never happened had it not been for Frank. And a lot of bands that, you know, locally in Orange County in L.A., we would have, you know, I could name, like, Got Instead, Final Conflict, Uniform Choice, you know, and, like, Excel. The list is enormous. But a lot of us probably would have never gotten past, like, maybe, a demo tape had it not been for Frank because Frank was that guy that, when the big, you know, touring bands are coming to town, you know, whether it be Boy Vought or, you know, Nuclear Salt, The Bad Brains, Chrome X, Murderhead, Discharge, Frank was the guy that would make sure that the prominent, hardworking local bands got to open up those shows. And not only got to play, but we got paid fairly. He was the guy, like, you know, that he just knew. And he kept on top of the scene. He worked and ran set records for years in Long Beach. That's right. And he was kind of like, you know, like, if it hadn't been for three different people, it was Mike Perez who recorded the first Final Conflict demo, and acted as our, quote, manager at the beginning. Big Frank and Pusset, no one would even know who the fuck Final Conflict is. We would have just been this band that did a demo tape and played a bunch of awesome shows. And maybe someone would have talked about us on a tape trading blog, you know? But that's it. And Frank gatewayed a lot of bands into the success and notoriety they have now. And then, you know, he actually carried that on even after he stopped working for Golden Voice. Doing Nemesis Records. And he put out, you know, records by Instead, Final Conflict, Visual Discrimination, got A Course of Disapproval, Brutus for 7-Inch, Frank put out. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, he put out the very first 7-Inch. The list is endless. Someone could go on Discogs and look up Nemesis Records and see all the records he put out. And Frank just did it because he wanted, he loved music and he wanted to help bands. And so, with what's happening to Frank, it's a no-brainer that all the bands would get together and play a show for him because we owe him. You know, everybody owes him something. You know, one of the things that's very interesting about growing old is the fact that you reflect and you think back to that pivotal time and you really do have to acknowledge and appreciate and thank those figures that really, at that time, went out of their way to bring this music that at the time was just fledgling and ahead of its time. One of the things that I remember fondly about Big Frank is, as you mentioned, he worked at Zedd Records. He was very, very open to turning people on to music. This is when we would go to a record store and you had that older guy that would say, hey, you need to listen to this. That no longer exists. Me too. Yeah, you know, so I'm glad that you guys are coming out and doing this benefit for him. You mentioned that he had surgery and he's doing well now? Yeah. Okay, so this is actually going to be a celebration fundraiser just to make sure that he has a nice little financial bundle there to get him through the hard times because, Jesus, God knows that in this day and age it's fucking hard to fucking pay the rent, man. Final conflict. Rhino 39, dissension, visual discrimination, wow, is that the old visual discrimination? Yeah, yeah. Oh, shit, man. What is that? There's a bunch of other bands that are on here that I can't read the flyer. 15 bucks. This is going out at Alex's Bar June 25th. Final conflict hasn't played in a while. On this show, will you be playing the Big Frank old school tunes? Actually, yeah. We are actually playing songs that we played during our Fender's ballroom days. Nice. We've actually relearned some old covers that we used to play during the Fender's period just for the show. So it is. It's going to be a Fender style set, short and sweet. Yeah, because it's been 18 months since we played. So, yeah, I mean, like, again, it's for our brother and he needs help. And if anybody out there is interested, you can follow Big Frank on Instagram. His username is Big Frank. Big Frank 323, the numbers. And on his face page, the main page of Instagram, there's a GoFundMe link if anybody wants to donate anything. Even a dollar, five dollars, anything helps, you know? Absolutely. You know, it doesn't take too much. You know, this could happen to anybody, you know? So, you know, we got to watch out for each other. There's too many shitty people. People out in the world. So when the good people are out there and they need our help, we need to help them. Yeah, and let me just say this. In regards to donating anything, literally anything does help. Sometimes a lot of people feel that, oh, well, I don't got 50 bucks or 20 bucks. Listen, a dollar, 50 cents, whatever. It's whatever you can spare. None of us are living fucking high on the hog. It's all going to a good cause and you get paid with good karma. And the guy's a great guy. You know, one of my fondest memories was taking the bus all the way from El Sereno to Long Beach to go to Zedd Records and I got turned on to Void by Big Frank. This is a time, as I mentioned before, where this music, there was no money in it. It was all heart. And especially here in Los Angeles, this guy was instrumental in making some amazing shows happen that are now considered. Legendary and historic. Final Conflict, will Warren be playing this bill? Yes. Oh, this is going to be a great show, man. So it's going to have the old school vibe all the way. We're going to have the old school, the old farts. There will be hearts mended and hips broken at this show. Well, listen, Ron, I want to thank you for taking the time to talk to me. This is going on June 25th. Final Conflict will be playing. Alex's Bar. This is for a benefit show for Big Frank. Let's all come out and not only give our money, but also send our best wishes, positive energy. No guest list. Please, don't ask Ron. If I could scrape up some dough, you can too. Right, Ron? Yeah. I don't have no friends anyways. Yeah, you know what? We're too old for friends. You know what I mean? We've got to take care of ourselves. Yeah. I got cats. Ron, I want to thank you for taking the time to talk to me, man. I look forward to seeing you this Saturday, June 25th at Alex's Bar. And best wishes go out to Big Frank. Awesome. I'll see you soon, Jimmy. And thanks for helping promote the show. Cheers, my friend. You take care. Take care. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We face reality as they attempt to destroy our rights We must continue to fight for freedom War ends, we've done the fight to have control The problem lies in the attack from the right They can abuse the U.S.A. as they attempt to destroy our rights We must continue to fight for freedom Together we stop now, by the coup, we shut us down They are right, they want our freedom, fight by with fire You must defeat them, they attempt to destroy our rights We must continue to fight for freedom Our rights are being stripped away by the police We must continue to fight for freedom In the government's lies, our rights Are being stripped away by the police In the government's lies Lies! The system, that doesn't work Might we lie, it's all it's worth One in all, is our life in the game Stop the government, torch the base The pipsqueak, to serve the tech The two-edged river, it's the unity of trust The pipsqueak, to serve the tech Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 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And in plain sight, no rules in the stand that they claim Slashers to kill, bringers of death, chronic waste them all Stand up and fight, battles will run, we will have them now The signs of war Battle feels the air The signs of war In the background Traitor I hate, turn him against, my neighbor, now there's no love Watching the news of freedom you lose Defeatist we'll put down The future's show Reconciliate, assimilation of life Survivors will have their revenge Never surrender, never bow down My family will avenge The signs of war Battle feels the air The signs of war Send them back to hell The signs of war Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation The aftermath Shots of glass Terror's on With death by sight The people Are sick And once again Evil The sick Are getting away The serpent's ancient here Ancient breeds more hate It takes you like a disease Division and despair Arisen out of the dark Just new hypocrisy Break the status quo The beast in my heart Will save us all Show us your power Serving support In years of death You'll never see them coming your way Hide in the dark And they play tight No rules in this game that they play Life is to kill Bring us up there That is wasteable Stand up and fight Rivals will rise We will Hunt them down The sight of war Maximum beauty The sight of war Send the man to hell! The The The The All right. That was a nice little set there. A big, frank time capsule set there. We started off with Constant Fear from Final Conflict. That's off the Ashes to Ashes record. After that, we heard Abolished Police, Relevant Then, Relevant Now, Final Conflict, Ashes to Ashes. Then we heard a track off the Split Image record entitled Split Image from Excel. Nation of Hate, Cryptic Slaughter, off the Convicted record. Black Smoke. This is off Hyrax's recent record, Immortal Legacy. And then we ended the set again with Final Conflict off their demo, I believe 1985, with More Beer. As we mentioned, all these bands on this set were instrumental. Frank, Big Frank was instrumental in having these bands way back in the 80s play with such legendary bands. He has a lot of great bands as Discharge and Conflict and GBH. And we could go on and on and on and on. Memorable shows, historic shows, legendary shows at the Olympic and at Defender's Ballroom. Big Frank, as we mentioned, is going through some health issues right now. He's kind of gotten over the worst and we just kind of want to have him just be cool so he could heal and have no financial burden or not a huge financial burden. So please go to the website. Please go to gofundme.com slash bigfrank. Contribute what you can. For those of you that are attending the memorials, excuse me, the fundraiser show. Chester, do you have the flyer there for the fundraiser show again, Final Conflict? This is going on at Alex's Bar. There you go. Final Conflict is going to be playing there with a bunch of bands. This is this Saturday at Alex's Bar. So please, if you can't make the show, please contribute. And again, Big Frank, wishing you all the best. Wishing you a speedy recovery. Get well, my friend. I'm looking forward to discussing music with you soon. All right. Chester and I have been completely, what is the word, engulfed in this weather girls of the millennial. My God. I was telling Chester, look at, this is another weather meteorologist from back in the day. This is Maclovio. This is Maclovio Perez. You remember Maclovio Perez, Chester? Probably not. No, I don't. Okay. Well, he was here in Southern California, like in the late eight, in the early to eight eighties and probably in the nineties too. Before this whole career shift went into with strippers and porn stars doing weather. Look at that. That's Maclovio Perez, right? Then the weather. Look at it now. Look at that. Dude. Oh my God. That's actually an honest reaction. This is that same weather girl from Mentos? Yeah, Yannet Garcia. Do you have another image of her there? Do you have any more images? Please, please do. Oh, Jesus. Do you have any images of them actually on set doing the weather? What? Do you have any images of these weather girls, of these meteorologists, you know, on set doing the weather? Yeah, here you go. Are you okay over there? What are you doing over there? Look, my glasses are fogging up. Oh, my God. Now, can you imagine the cameramen? Can you imagine the torture these cameramen are going through while they're filming? While they're, you know, during the live broadcast? You know they got fucking some sort of erections. And guess what? Poor guy's, you know, trying to do his job, right? And then this chick comes out dressed like that. And then fucking he's getting a hard on. And guess what? He'll be subjected to sexual harassment. Can you... In Mexico, though? Oh, no. In Mexico, they don't give a fuck. I'm talking about... In Mexico, they're like, fuck off. You know what I mean? Oh, my God. Is that another one? Oh, my God. Look at that. She's incredible. Oh, she's got to be in porn. I hope she's not fucking some narco trafficker. Anyways, I hate to see her fucking get dismembered. The point is, is the weather reports on your local channel news is no longer the same as it was back then. I don't think this is going on nationwide. Why? Do you think this is going on nationwide? No, it's not. I can guarantee you. It's just in the big markets, right? L.A., New York. The big markets have the hot chicks. In the shithole that is middle America, you're not seeing this kind of... Is that where my club, Paris, is living in now? Somewhere in South Dakota? Yeah, he retired to Wisconsin. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? I mean, we got to look into that. I want to know what type of meteorologist... Out in, like, fucking Kansas and shit. You know what I mean? Unbelievable. Thank you enough for that, Chester. Now, I'm blown away by that. Okay. Did you know... I read this. This was interesting. I read that in China... There's a big controversy in China because they just recently had an event where, you know, they're proud to announce that, you know, consuming canine is part of the delicacy over there. Now, I would like... I would like to taste canine. Have you ever tasted canine, Chester? I have not had the opportunity, but I would. Now, you would think here in Los Angeles, much like any other big metropolitan city, you know, anything and everything is possible. Have you looked into that? Yeah. You know, Koreans eat dogs, and, you know, it's a special occasion dish in Korea. And the thing about Koreatown is there's a lot of hidden... places in Koreatown where a lot of... You frequent that area a lot. A lot of different things go on. Are you referring to illegal activity? There might be some places that have some illegal activity going on. The thing about Korean culture is that you would rather get a fine from the local authorities than to tell a Korean businessman that he can't do something. Right. That's just kind of the way it is. And, yeah. I... I'm willing to bet... I'm willing to bet that there's a place, if you want it, you can get it in Koreatown. In Korean, it's called Bosun Tong. Bosun Tong. Oof. And that's like Korean dog soup. And you know what? From what I've read and from what I've... In my own curiosity of talking to people from that ethnicity, they say it's delicious. It probably is. Very healthy for you. It's probably a lean meat. Yeah. Especially, you know, to give you energy in regards to the sexual realm. It's supposed to be very, you know, kind of like eating oysters, so to speak. Yeah. The... The... Aphrodisiacs. Aphrodisiac. All right. Well, listen. If you find a place where we could get some fucking German Shepherd or something... I'll try, man. There was rumors that there was a place, but, you know, they got shut down. But it's out there. It's got to be out there. I mean, you know... Who knows? Maybe they're even serving it like... I mean, there's a couple of taco vendors fucking that I could... I could swear that fucking meat looks like it's a cat. You know what I mean? So... If I can just randomly wander into a Korean whorehouse, I'm sure that I can randomly wander into a place that's serving dog meat. Oh, all right. All right. I got an interview. I... My mind's still in that weather, girl. Can you put that up again one more time, please? Oh, my Lord. Look at that. Jesus. Today, the weather is going to be... I don't care. I just busted a nut. All right. I had an interview with Todd Jones of Nails. Nails has just released a new record entitled You Will Never Be Part of Us. Wow. What a title. That says it all right there. For those of you that are familiar with Nails and you have been following this band, you can rest assured this record is right up that alley. It's aggressive as fuck. So why don't we listen to a track from the new record? And then we'll see you in a minute. And then we'll get into an interview that I conducted with Todd Jones of Nails while Chester and I look at more weather girls and admire their meteorologist talents. Take it away, Chester. You will never be one of us. You will never be one of us. You will never be one of us. You will never be one of us. You will never be one of us. You will never be one of us. You will never be one of us. You will never be one of us. You will never be one of us. You will never be one of us. Disgusting, disgusting, you're never gonna get enough. Alright, this is taped to broadcast, 5150 Interview Series and the Very Manic Jimmy Cab Show with Todd Jones of Nails. How you doing, Todd? Good, man. Dude, let me just say this. There are very few bands that consistently have been able to put out very, very unique, honest, and savage music. You have a new record coming out. You will never be one of us. This is gonna be coming out on, let me see here. June 17th. June 17th on Nuclear Blast Record, your third record. Talk to me a little bit about this brutal album. Yeah. Yeah, you know, we've been working on the record since we did A Band In Our Life a few years ago. Went into the studio, recorded it. We were just trying to make a record where it's a little bit more memorable. You know, A Band In Our Life we wrote purposely to be extremely aggressive. And I think some of the catchiness got kind of lost in the extremity of that record. So we just, we're trying to make something a bit more chunky and something a bit more memorable in the whole whole department. And, you know. Pretty happy with what we made. One of the things that I've always liked about Nails is that you're just straight out and forward with what you are. Whether it's in the live ambience or in the studio. This is just, again, another example of you just sticking to your guns and just being sincere with your music. My question to you is, is how is it possible that you keep this freshness? In other words, it doesn't become mundane. It's still unpredictable and savage. I don't know. It's pretty hard. You know, Nails is a pretty one-dimensional band as far as our style goes. We're not melodic. We're just pretty aggressive, pretty fast, pretty heavy. And, you know, it's hard for us to essentially do the same thing. But make a record that's different than the one that came before it. Or different than the two that came before it. Right. So. It's hard for us to make a Nails record and still have it kind of stand on its own. And be like its own piece in our discography. And be a worthwhile piece in our discography. So that's kind of why it takes us so long to make a record. I mean, we're constantly working on music. And, you know, we just want to make a record that our fans will be happy to spend, you know, $10 to $20 on. You know, one of the things that I really, really also appreciate about Nails and what you've been doing is, is that you really... You really just keep it simple. And what I mean by that is, is even though the band in itself has evolved, you do not stray away from the foundation of what Nails is. Is that something that you do consciously? Yeah. You know, I started this band kind of in my late 20s. And, you know, I'm just... When it comes down to it, I'm just really a fan of music. So I started this band with a large intention of being a fan. And, you know, I look... At bands that I really loved that later in their career, they put out albums that I didn't think were so good. And I wanted to kind of avoid doing that. I just wanted to make a band that made records that, as a fan, that I would like. And that's all... Really, all we try to do is make records that we would like as people. You know, if we don't like the music we write, why should somebody else? Right. One of the things that's very interesting for me, because I've been observing you since 2010, and one of the... One of the things that I like is that you have... And pardon me saying this, but you have an old school ethic with Young Soul. You're a young soul with an old school ethic. What I mean by that is, is Nail seems to really just exuberate the old school DIY punk ethic in regards to, this is what it is. If you dig it, you dig it. We don't care. It sounds to me that it's very refreshing in 2016, because there's so many bands that get caught up with labels, dude. They're trying to be... They're trying to be this. They're trying to be that. What I like about Nails is that you keep it simple, but yet you deliver every time. Would you agree with that assessment? We try to. Yeah. And as far as what you say is about, you know, being like kind of a younger guys with kind of like a more old... With an old... Kind of like an old soul type or an old type spirit, old school spirit. I definitely agree with that. I mean, I agree with that, definitely. One of the things that's interesting is... One of the things that's interesting is the fact that in this day and age, there are so many musical genres. It's always interesting to me when other writers or just listeners of your music try to categorize what the band is all about. For me, personally, I just call it savage and brutal and raw. Rock and roll. You know what I mean? 2016, a very raw, brutal, honest, sincere sound. How would you go about describing the Nails sound on this album? You know, I would just say it sounds like a mix. I think compared to all our other records, this record somehow has... This record somehow has more punk and more metal in it. Like, I don't really know how that works or how we accomplish that, but when I listen to our record, I feel like that's really kind of what it sounds like. More punk and more metal. You know, does it in any way, shape, or form... Do you feel comfortable being labeled... Labeling the music as a punk-metal crossover? Yeah, yeah. I think that's a fair assessment, yeah. One of the things that I really have noticed is the fact that your album has the exact same amount of raw, brutal energy, that really destructive, catastrophic energy, as your live shows. How do you capture that energy in a sterile environment like the studio? Oh, man. You know, that's one of the things... We go record with Kurt Ballou. I feel like he's someone who really understands, like, what we're trying to get across in our music, and I think he's really good at conveying that into a studio setting. And that's kind of one of the reasons why we go to him. Because, like I said, before I'm a musician, I'm a fan of music, period. Right. That's probably the most important thing. And I try to do nails with a fan's perspective. And so, you know, I listen to all my favorite records, and I pay attention to who records them. And I try to figure out who I think would probably be the most appropriate person for us to go record with. And Kurt is definitely that guy for us. He really did capture the essence of the band on this record, man. Right on, man. I'm glad you think so. Because, I don't know, I think he does... I think he compliments our sound very well. Yeah, he really did a great job. Okay, let me cut the journalistic bullshit aside, and let me get to the reality and being real with you here. One of the things that I like about this record is, as I mentioned before, even though it stays in the nails realm, in other words, it's coke. It's not the new coke, it's coke. But it still gets the aggression, it gets the adrenaline, it gets the fucking fire burning in an old fucker like me. One of the things that I really, really do enjoy about this record the most is the fact that it injects a whole new energy. What I mean by that is, you know, when you tend to listen, and you tend to follow a band, they become predictable. This record is unpredictable. How did you achieve that? I'm glad to hear you say that. You know, it's kind of hard for me to look at it because, you know, we made it as a band, and it's kind of hard for me to think that it's unpredictable, just because when we were making it, I don't know, it just kind of felt like nails. But that's definitely a quality I'm glad to hear you say. But we did try to make it, mix it up, and try to make it stand out from our other records. But I'm glad to hear you say it's unpredictable, because I think that's kind of like a good quality for any band to have. Absolutely, man. It's dangerous. And that's one of the things that really comes off of this record, man. It captures the attention, and for 21 minutes, it just, you're mesmerized to it. Hell yeah. Let me ask you this. How does it feel having a fan base that coexists with Oscar Garcia of Terrorizer and Max Cavalera? Dude, that's fucking crazy, man. How crazy is that? Dude, I'm stoked. My first experience with Oscar was when we played a festival out in the Lancaster area, and Navia played it, and I was stoked, because number one, I'm obviously a big fan of Terrorizer, and I'm obviously a big fan of Navia. So I was like, oh, we're going to play with Navia, this is going to be great. And then the guy who played it, the guy who was selling our shirts for doing merch for us, he was like, hey, the singer of Navia just bought a shirt. I'm like, did you charge him, or did you give him the shirt for free? Because you better have given the fucking shirt for free. He's like, no, I gave him a shirt. I'm like, all right, thanks fucking God, because I'm not, Oscar Garcia's money is no good with me. I mean, he could take anything from me that I have. I mean, if he wants my guitar and my amp, I'll fucking give it to him, period. But, you know, to find out that he was interested in it, to find out that he was interested in nails, that was a very, very, very validating thing for nails. Because obviously, you know, I don't think, Oscar's a pretty modest guy. He doesn't really like getting a lot of praise from people. But, you know, the truth and the fact is that he's one of the godfathers of grindcore. Absolutely. And nobody can say otherwise, period. That's not an opinion. That's a validated, certified fact. Yeah. So to have someone like Oscar, like, kind of be into our band and wear our shirt and just be into us, it's a very validating thing. And it's very humbling. And it just makes me excited because, I mean, like I said, you know, I'm a fan more than I am a musician. That's the way I look at myself. I just love music. And I love the styles of music that we play. So, of course, I'm a fan of what Oscar's done. And, you know, I first heard Sepultura when I was probably 12 or 13 years old. When the Territory video was on MTV back in, I think, 1993. So I've been listening to Max for a very, very, very long time. So, I don't know, just to get validation from those two people is, I don't know, it's a very validating thing. And if I ever hear anybody say anything negative about Nails, I'm kind of washed away by the fact that, like, these dudes that I grew up listening to their music, you know, like Nails. Yeah, absolutely. And what better way than to really, you know, get a little bit of a sense of what the music is like. And one of the things that I've really come away and feeling proud is when you have these forefathers kind of like not only dig what you're doing, but they also have incredible reputations for being sincere and true to the music. So it's another form of seal of approval. Wouldn't you agree? Yeah, absolutely. One of the things that I like about this record, as I mentioned before, is that it captures the real rawness and what I like to say, the kick-ass energy, which is in some cases, you know, what's missing in a lot of this so-called extreme music genre. I like the fact that this record is unpredictable. It's dangerous. It keeps you glued to it. But another thing that I like is the fact that you really don't stray and you really are not trying to reinvent the wheel. You're comfortable with who and what you are, and you really display this very properly. You're on nuclear blast now, though. This is interesting because, unfortunately, there's a demographic of people that look at it like you're selling out or you're trying to branch out to other markets with a bigger label and what have you. They don't really digest what is most important, the music. What would you have to say to those type of audiences that are making these type of comments? It's funny that you bring that up because I remember when we announced that we were signed to nuclear blast, there were some comments. One of the comments was, well, I guess this is the beginning of the end for nails. And it made me kind of laugh because, you know, you're a musician. You're a musician. You've heard the record. You know, the record is basically the record we would have put out whether we were putting it out in Southern Lord or whether we were just financing the record ourselves and putting it out. We made the same record that we would have made regardless of what label is putting it out. And as far as, you know, to directly answer your question of what I would say to those people, I wouldn't say anything. I would let the record speak for itself. Excellent. Excellent. For me, I've always liked the fact that you've always displayed a sincere honesty. I've always liked the fact that you've always displayed a sincere honesty. Whether it's offstage or onstage, I really appreciate the fact that you keep it real. Whether it's offstage or onstage, I really appreciate the fact that you keep it real. The title in itself says it all, you will never be one of us. The title in itself says it all, you will never be one of us. You really, you really hit that perfectly, because there are so many individuals in this so-called extreme music scene that really don't get the true essence of it. They come in, and it's the flavor of the month, and then, you know, they so call move on to other ventures. This is what, this is the underground of what you do. This is the undercurrent of real fucking music, what you've been doing and what you're displaying, and I think you captured that very well with this record, man. Todd Jones, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to me. Thanks, Jimmy, and I remember going to your radio show in 2011, so thanks for always keeping up with our band. Always, man. June 17th, this comes out on Nuclear Blast Record. Nails, you will never be one of us. Make sure you pick it up. All right, so that was an interview. That I did with Todd Jones. I want to thank Todd Jones for taking the time to chat with me. And as I mentioned there, or as it was discussed, You Will Never Be One Of Us is released now on Nuclear Blast Records. Nails is going to be playing. Let's look at the image there real quick of Nails. You Will Never Be One Of Us. Get it? Now. It's a sick fucking record, man. That's on Nuclear Blast Record. Nails is going to be playing. Nails is going to be playing in July. Do we have that flyer there with Terrorizer there, Chester? There you go. That's going to be at the Roxy Nails Terrorizer LA, which features Oscar Garcia of, you know, Terrorizer, of course. That's going to be a great show. What's the date on that show there, Chester? That looks like July 22nd. Yeah, there you go. My glasses are still fogged up from those fucking weather girls. Okay, so Nails is going to be playing with Terrorizer LA. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. be one of us. That's on Nuclear Blast Records. 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