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Orlando massacre discussion plus Betsy Bitch interview

2h 04m 56s
💾 1.2 GB
📅 2016-06-14
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Duration: 2h 04m 56s
Size: 1.2 GB
Aired: 2016-06-14
Hosts: Jimmy Cabbs
Guests: Betsy Bitch (Betsy Weiss)
Jimmy Cabbs discusses the 2016 Orlando nightclub massacre, gun control, and Led Zeppelin copyright issues, then interviews Betsy Bitch about her pioneering metal career, marriage views, and the band's legacy.

🎵 Playlist

15:00 Massacre — Thin Lizzy 🎧
38:00 Haunter of the Dark — Cough 🎧

📄 Transcript [show]

Good evening, tonight we have details of a mass shooting at a nightclub in Orlando, Florida. It happened about four hours ago, 2am local time, in a gay friendly club called Pulse. Up to 25 people I believe dead, many more injured. One gunman has been confirmed dead inside the club, but there are reports of more than one shooter. Answers Answers Answers Answers Answers For the earth to grant a political hand Out of the grave for the crunched cost of raising the rent In space for the kings of return with love and good father In the sovereigns of the bloodlust Blood, blood, blood The destiny of the blind For the earth to grant a political hand Out of the grave for the crunched cost of raising the rent In space for the kings of return with love and good father In the sovereigns of the bloodlust Blood, blood, blood In space for the kings of return with love and good father In the sovereigns of the bloodlust Blood, blood, blood Master, you said fire Just the ink of hell's fine lines And a! We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. . Screams of horror fill the air Carnage and mayhem, no one will care Strangled from catastrophe The body cold and numb Everywhere's an enemy There's no place left to run Shackled to this misery Punished we know not why Begging for the end to come As we wait to die We wait to We wait to die We wait to die Anger and despair Going from the grave Lives that have been lost That could have been saved Fist of grace with fury Blasting out the sky Tears of the fallen Hollow echoes of the ground From the brink of dawn And still into the night There's no answer There's no answer The Prince Lost within these lands of hatred And the message that it sends Our purpose has gone unfulfilled Endangered are the lives The greatest power to their heads As we wait to die We wait to die I hate you Although it's still early in the investigation We know enough to say that this was an act of terror And an act of hate And as Americans we are united in grief In outrage And in resolve to defend our people And in our own At a point below zero There's no place left to go Six hundred unknown heroes For killing our people Like sleeping buffaloes Through the devil's camp Across the battlefield Death has no companion The spirits pour their tears There goes the bandolero Through the hole in the water He's a coward but he doesn't care though In fact he don't care at all The general that's commanding Is defending what he fears While the troops they are defending Are reinforcements from Korea The soldiers they are defending Are reinforcements from Korea They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn They will learn just what they learn If God is in the heaven I'd kiss his double heel In his name they use the weapon For the massacre There's a point below zero Where the sun can see the man Six hundred of those who are Rotten to the sand Oh Warning. The songs you are about to hear are intended for mature listening audiences only. If you have a weak mind or heart and don't like words like shit, fuck, or cunt, then please refrain from listening any further. It's time for some real music. It's showtime! We have seen imitators! We've also seen duplicators! But now, it's time for the company of Richard Netter! Los Angeles and the rest of the decomposing, chaotic, just going to hell world. You're listening to the very manic Jimmy Cab Show. I am your host, Jimmy Cabs. Broadcasting live! From downtown, gentrified, urine-smelling, downtown L.A. But gluten-free. We are right with gluten-free. Where do we begin, folks? You know, just when you thought last week was bad with the injustices and the blatant fucking just... We really don't know where to begin. You know, every week it just gets worse and worse. By the way, welcome back, Los Johnny. There's just a lot of people just just just just just just just just just just just Bernie just blatantly got fucking robbed and you had to go indulge in cannabis for a couple weeks? Well, you know, I'm not going to confirm nor deny that. But, you know, there was, I got the feels. You know, I got the feels. Not for whom, I'm not going to say that. But there were some feels. But yeah, chaos, all kind of crazy shit going on. Chaos all the way around, man. I mean, you know, rapists are getting... Slaps on the wrist. Six months because they're great swimmers from a prestigious college. And it doesn't hurt that or help that the judge who sentenced him was a fellow swimmer himself. What a coincidence. What a shock. What a shock. You know, I go and I'm still hopeful of the electoral process. Obviously, I'm the last idiot that believes in that because it's obvious that big money rules this country. Just when shit is getting worse and lo and behold... The fix is in, Rock. 2016. Listen, let me make this clear. I am not the most... Politically fucking suave guy. Right? Would you agree? I mean, you know, I have many flaws. I'm very open about it. But here's the deal. One flaw I do not have is I don't violate people's rights. I don't give a fuck what anybody does in their home. Okay? As long as you don't violate my rights, I don't care what you do. 2016, Los Johnny, this whole homophobic thing is ridiculous. To the point where it's going into massacres. Can you picture just a bunch of happy gays in a fucking nice setting partying? First of all, being gay is great. Amazing. Let me tell you something. The fact that we're heterosexuals, we're really suffering. Yeah, we... The gays really have it down tight. Dude, as someone... It's a happy lifestyle. It's a great lifestyle. Great. And as someone who does frequent the rainbow side of things once in a while, not in a sexual sense. Of course not. It's the best way to get free drinks, man. Dude. You're cute. You're handsome. You know, I'm not going to disagree with you. Right. But, I mean, hanging out... Dudes are dudes. Hanging out with these dudes is fucking amazing because they're raw. They don't give a fuck. They're just like, dude, I want to make this happen with you right now. Yeah. Things happen and then slap on the shoulders like, peace out, man. No hard feelings. Or, you know... Hey, would you like some cock? No. Hey, all right. I'll just move on to the next guy. Some dudes get... Out of those five requests, I would say four are going to say yes. I mean, the math is in your favor. Here's the deal. And this is what is so disgusting. In 2016... In 2016, the United States of America, a world power, a world leader, allegedly. A first world country, man. You know, here's the deal. Let's not even discuss the electoral process and all the fucking thievery and that. There is a bunch of men and women also minding their own business, okay? Having a great time trying to fucking, you know, just take some time off this madness. Having a great time dancing and partying. And some fucking asshole walks in and shoots the place up. That's blasting. And to top it off, they're gays. Gays don't bother nobody. Yeah. You know what? Those are the last people that fuck with people. Okay, we have... We have a problem here, folks. And listen, don't start talking to me about gun control because I am... I, for one, say... You are an avid supporter of the Second Amendment. We need... This is... And I'm... You know, people think I'm mad when I say this. But it's... It's becoming more and more relevant. And people are starting to see the light. But it's got to get done. We need to be armed. An armed society is a safe, polite society. You see someone with a .40 fucking caliber on their waist, you're not going to think twice about being a dick. If you're somewhere socially or in a school or in a restaurant, if you're armed, guess what? If some asshole decides to walk in there, you are armed. Yeah. I don't know what to say. I find it... A travesty. I think it's sad. It's a fucking crime against humanity, man. This is a fucking straight-up hate crime. Listen, I... Am I the only... He's a terrorist. That dude's a fucking terrorist. Am I the only one, people? Am I the only person that's frustrated? I mean, really? What's going on here? I wouldn't say you're alone in that frustration. I think it goes from literally all the way to the top. Hey, I don't... I am not a cannabis guy. I wish I was. I'm not. But you know what? Legalize marijuana. Get people high. Dude, and... And legalize pussy, too. Yes. While we're at it. Legalize prostitution. You know what? Getting high and fucking are two great pleasures that'll keep people sane. Yeah. It chills you out. You want to go to sleep afterwards. You don't want to pick up a love gun, much less an actual gun. You want to get high. You want to get laid. And guess what? If for some reason someone wants to cause some chaos, have a gun by your side. And you know what? Society, this is where we need to be. This is where we need to be. I think it's a tragedy that would happen. 49 people massacred. Can you imagine? Not just killed. It's raining men and bullets. Well, it's raining blood, too. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. A three-hour wait for the SWAT team to go in there. People fucking barricaded, texting their loved ones. Trying to hide. Some people got shot, like, more than once. And yet you and I are assholes. Yeah, we're the dicks. We're the dicks. We're the dicks. Chester, chime in here. What do you have to say? We like the gays. Love them. Yeah. Are you disgusted, too? Absolutely disgusted. And I think we are entering into a very sick period in our history. Very dark. Very dark. Very dark. You know, election. You know, look at that. Look at what's happening around the world. This is a dark time for America. And all great empires fall. And I think we're at the... The beginning of that. You were absolutely right about that. Would you agree with my opinions in regards to legalizing marijuana, legalizing prostitution, and having a legal conceal and carry for every citizen? Yeah, so I'm not a gun guy in the sense that I... Thank God, because you're frightening, too. I've seen the way you are when you're fucked up. No, I'm not a gun guy, meaning that I just personally am not comfortable with guns. But here's the thing about all the people that say we should outlaw guns. The thing that I don't understand, and maybe you can explain this to me, do criminals give a fuck what the gun laws are? No. No. So we outlaw guns. That means that people with sound body and mind that would step in place to stop one of these happening, they're the ones that aren't going to have guns. But the psychopaths and the criminals, they're going to still have their guns. So that's where I stand on that. I think in this day and age... It's a necessity. And it really just... It's a reality. We need to be armed. I know that that sounds horrifying to say, and it's sad, but it's sad but true. We need to be fucking stoned, getting laid, and have some guns. You know where... I just came from Las Vegas and the Grand Canyon. Beautiful, by the way. The interesting thing about Nevada is that there's two things that are relatively... easy to access. Guns and marijuana. Their crime rate compared to Texas, Florida, places like that, significant difference. You can go get weed. You can go get laid. You can gamble for Christ's sakes. No one's going to worry about you. Everybody's happy. I mean, there's literal signs in the markets where it's like, you can have your gun. Just don't bring it in here. Right. That's all. Everyone's cool because you know someone is carrying someone. And, you know, you just... Yeah, you get drunk, you get loud, you get stupid, but you don't cross a line. You don't cross a line when someone is armed. You do not cross a line knowing full well that that guy is three steps away from a serious firearm. You know what I mean? Let me just say this. I was so outraged and so just flustered and just fed up that I needed an injection of some sort of happiness. Sure. And that's why this lovely young lady sitting over there with her handsome band member slash friend or whatever. Anyways, the point is, I had to bring someone that brings positivity into my life because I was getting to a point where I was like, this is just a bunch of bullshit. This is maddening. And guess what? Chester, play that soundbite about Santa Monica, please. It's not only in Orlando, by the way. Oh, no. Hey, Chester, you want to wake up over there? Yeah. Bong loads. An Indiana man is jailed in Santa Monica, California. Santa Monica. Police arrested him Sunday, heavily armed and headed to a gay pride parade. The gay pride parade. Police say he was carrying three assault rifles and chemicals used in explosives. Why do you want to fuck with gays at the gay pride parade? Three assault rifles and chemicals. They don't bother anybody, dude. Dude, go to Fallujah with that shit. Yeah. Go to Syria with that shit. Right? Right? You know what? Afghanistan is waiting for you. Why don't you go fucking over there? There are a lot of places around the world that could use your help, pal. West Hollywood is not one of them. Here's the deal. So, unfortunately, here in Los Angeles, for those of you that are listening in your own fucking hell, somewhere out, because the whole world's fucked. Your own Fallujah. Here in Los Angeles, we almost had something like that happen. I'm sure there's some great lawyer that's going to spin it and say that, you know what, this is a misunderstanding. Or what have you. Three assault rifles going to a parade where a bunch of homosexuals were going to go celebrate the fact that they're gay. And you know what? God bless them. I mean, not only is that celebration just for gays. I mean, I was passing through there before the whole thing started. And there was a pretty wide berth of people besides blatantly homosexual men. And it was cool. I mean, it really is a celebration of the lifestyle, whether you agree with it or not. Yeah, whether you agree with it or not. I mean, it's a gathering of people. Who cares? And again, everything's positive. Everyone's there. Have a good time. And yada, yada, yada. All right. So listen, before I talk you to death here, and I want to get to my guests because I need some happiness. Do me a favor. Bernie's not going anywhere. So fucking please, all of you that are still waving that flag, sober up. Number two, start writing your congressman. Start writing fucking all your politicians, all your representatives, especially here in California. Tell them that you're sick and tired of the madness. And you need, you want. You want to fucking exercise the right to have firearms to protect yourself, not only in your home, but when you fucking go to the market or take your kid to the school. Goddamn go to a movie. Number three, please. Led Zeppelin is on trial as we speak. We've talked about this before, but for those of you, Chester, you want to cue that Zeppelin song there, please? Here's the deal. I get so much backlash because I bash on Led Zeppelin. I don't bash on Led Zeppelin. I just speak the truth. They're fucking thieves. They've been doing it forever. They were rock gods. They fucking blossomed. They prospered. Now, finally, the truth is coming out. The fact is, is this is a jury trial. That's a whole other different level of legal tactics. It's a jury trial. You know what that means? That means it's a bunch of fucking assholes that are Led Zeppelin fans. Oh, man. Chester, play, let's recap and talk a little bit about Led Zeppelin thievery. Play that soundbite about the history of Led Zeppelin, please. And turn off this fucking song. I feel like I got finger banged for the first time. So, I'm talking approximately 12 beats, probably the most famous intro in rock music history. And the interesting story here is that Led Zeppelin in 1968, the day after Christmas, opened for the band Spirit and then played with them, opened for them four times in 1969. Wow, what balls. So, in order to sustain a copyright infringement case, you have to show access. In fact, Led Zeppelin even covered part of Taurus' songs, certain songs in common. And they're still in concert. So, we have that. So, we have access, we have the similarity, and probably the basis of a lawsuit. Now, it should be noted, too, that this is not the first time that Led Zeppelin has been sued over their music. Not the first time. A whole lot of love, Bazed and Confused, Lemon Song, and another track were also subjects of litigation. And there, reportedly, the band settled. Custard pie for Led Zeppelin. That's all I have to say. It'd be nice if some justice... Uh... Would be rendered to some of these artists that they blatantly ripped off and they didn't get shit. Here's another reason why I'm sick and tired of this whole dynasty. You gotta remember, back in like the late 60s, early 70s, when record companies or record company mafias were so powerful, they would literally brainwash you. This is what I am rebelling against now as a grown adult. From the age of three years old, I remember vividly, because I had stoner neighbors, 1973 to fucking now. Even now. Even now. Still. You know, Dina's still next door. Yes, she is. The point is, is Led Zeppelin, the Eagles. Okay, great music. Have their merit. Okay, but you know what? There's a lot of brainwashing. Move on, people. There's still people fucking talking about Jim Morrison, dude. Give me a break. Move on. You know, it's one of those... I mean, all you have to do is still read, as if you should, read Rolling Stone that are squeezing every single fucking possible molecule from that era of music. Between gays being massacred and Led Zeppelin fans, I'm losing my mind. I'm losing my mind. I'm losing my mind. I'm losing my mind. I'm losing my mind. I'm losing my mind. Okay. I'm going to listen to EDM. What did we here, because I can't wait to get to my guest. What did we open the block with? Actually, I'm here... I'm excited for tonight's guest, as well. Really? Yeah. I didn't know you were... No, actually, the thing about our friendship, as long as it's gone, you have spoken about our guests consistently, to the point where I feel... I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her. I know her I know that what she's done and the accomplishments and so forth so I mean it's just as much of a thing for me as it is for you you've met her before I have not so this is this is actually a pretty cool thing very great day today so we started the set properly with saviors friends of ours friends of everyone here holy slaughter and after that we heard Brazil's own Christian massacre under the sun after that we heard England's classic discharge shamefully did not make their show this past couple weeks ago but they will be back massacre of the innocents air attack after that we heard the band massacre as we wait to die and we ended the set properly with oh man the late great Phil Lynott Thin Lizzy massacre get on these tracks if you don't have them kids yeah and unfortunately all those songs are in regards to the massacre in Orlando which is we're giving our condolences not only to there but all the massacres man all the massacres it's gonna happen again man okay 1983 13 year old northeast LA El Sereno east LA adolescent I would say lower income sure was attracted to a subgenre of music which at the time was very popular and became even more popular and I would take the RTD Rapid Transit District was that what it was? that's what it was yeah the RTD which was the public transportation all the way out to Santa Monica Board or the Troubadour all the way out to West Hollywood to the Roxy and the Whiskey mind you just to give a little geographical context from where you and I both grew up to go from where we grew up to West Hollywood or Hollywood it's like traveling to Mars seriously it was it was it was like some Star Trek shit like whoa you're passing through some pretty gnarly areas and yeah for you know I rode the bus when I was like 12, 13 years old and like dude wide eyed and to go from just the journey to get there and then to see the show must have been awe inspiring let me tell you why I was doing that there was a lady an elegant beautiful lady called Betsy and her band was Bitch and she was so mesmerizing she was so hypnotic that 30 something years later by the way Betsy thank you for not filing a restraining order on me uh 30 years later not only do I enjoy her music and her performances and fortunately uh to get to speak to her as a grown adult but we're gonna speak to her because she I would say is one of the most underrated artists ever I think that even though the so called high caliber well renowned female fronted musicians have credited her I think criminally she has not been recognized as she should she is definitely and she's and she's part of a legacy and she is still here folks she is still here she you know I just saw her play a couple months ago so we have Betsy Bitch here we're gonna get to her in a bit with that Chester let's get the show started take it away . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah Now, just scream through the night Now, just scream through the night Guys Now, just scream through the night You can't explain You're quite somebody else Now, just scream through the night Now guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo I know your name and where you came from I know the shape of all your demands the way that I make you be a shadow on the door a mirror made of ink so you may be alone alone I'm on your side now come your midnight now I'm on your side now come on and let us down oh oh oh oh oh I take more of a mystery a male of scorn to become holy I am the serpentine the love so out your mind a smile of everyday so there is no divide oh oh oh oh oh I'm on your side now come your midnight oh oh oh oh oh I'm on your side now Calm your dead thoughts down I'm on your side now Calm my dead thoughts down And now, here with an unlimited supply of missing scenes, the information is Mr. Noto! Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Calm your dead thoughts down Alice Cooper, I get to play a part. You know, I get to be Betsy bitch on stage. Alice Cooper does not look good in leather like you, darling. Oh, yeah. I mean that with all due respect. How's that for irony? I have the man tattooed on my arm. Don't say anything bad about Alice. Lucky best. I mean, how's that for irony is that Alice Cooper, the guy, wanted to do, you know, adopt a female name. Yet we have Betsy here adopting herself, but in a more masculine, aggressive manner. It's a full circle. As you can tell, not only do I respect your career and I admire what you've done, I also am a fan as far as your beauty. But let me ask you this. Do you think that that is why maybe that kind of hindered your career because of the Betsy persona? It hindered it? Yeah, because I think you should be. I think I wasn't taken, you know. Were you taken seriously? I wasn't. There weren't a lot of females being taken seriously back then, especially, you know, in the type of music that we were doing. It wasn't, you know, as widely accepted as it is now. You broke the door open. I was a pioneer, you know, and I came in a little covered wagon with a bonnet. Now, let me ask you a very personal question. By all means, you don't have to answer it, but we keep it very real here. Does it fucking bother you, though? Does it annoy you the fuck? Because I'm dealing with... What? Does what annoy me? The fact that here you broke down that door, okay? You are the pioneer, and you get recognized for it, but you broke down that door. I think you should be headlining the forums. I think you should be... Oh, yeah, that part pisses me off. And I'm not just talking because of the financial aspect of it. Listen, you know what? There was a time where I was, like, against capitalism. Fuck it. I want money now. The point is, is I don't like the fact that when they mentioned Doro or when they mentioned Angela from... What was that fucking band? Arch Enemy. You should be mentioned first. Absolutely. You should be mentioned first. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. And it drives me... It's been driving me nuts for over fucking 25 years. Well, I do get included in a lot of those, you know, polls and things. There's a VH1 poll, the top 10, you know, heavy metal women singers, and I was in there. I may have been number 10, but I was still there. I think you should be mentioned number one. Well, she's known as the first lady of metal, so... And this is the beauty of it, the fact that you are still here and you are still doing what you do more powerful than ever. I've seen you play recently, and I mean, your performances are outstanding. The fact that you still have your voice. And what I mean by that is being a vocalist is very, very draining on the vocal cord. Very much so. Especially when you're trying to sing through the Marshall amps. I mean, look at these big name acts now. They're doing their big tours, their big farewell tour. I mean, I just saw an ad for Vince. That fucking guy can't sing for shit, but he's still up there trying to get it done. Vince Neil. There you go. My question to you is. I don't know if you said Vince Gill or Vince Neil. No, Vince Gill is. I thought we moved on to the country genre. We're talking about stagecoach right now. How have you maintained that power vocally in your performance? Because it's still just as deadly as it was back in those days. I think I just, I don't know, for some reason my vocals just got better as I got older. I got, you know, it's like I aged like a fine wine. Now, I don't know. I think I just learned from my mistakes. And I, you know, I took. I did take some vocal lessons. I haven't taken any in a while. But the last teacher I studied with, you know, gave me a technique, you know, that's applicable even to this day. And I think, you know, I just started singing correctly. And it's, I think, like I said, I just kind of, you know, kind of learned along the way. Well, you know what? What more can I say to that? I mean, you know, and I mean, it's kind of obvious that. Betsy here is no stranger to the gym. So that probably has a lot to do with that as well. Yeah. Well, my gym is in my home. So that makes it easy. It's everything's right there staring at me. And if I don't use it, I feel guilty. Mine too. All right. We're going to listen to some bitch right now. Let me just say this again. For those of you that are familiar with Betsy bitch, for those of you that have heard of Betsy bitch, for those of you that have not. This is indeed the pioneer. This is the queen. And I am so glad that I can tell you this, not only face to face, but I have written about it and I have had numerous discussions on the record and off. And I think one of the privileges and one of the greatest enjoyments that I've ever had is watching you perform because I've watched you as a child and now I've watched you as an adult. And just to see you, number one, not only blossom and still have that power. But the fact that a 46 year old man who doesn't really have much. Happiness in his life. Even though, you know, I got a great looking lady, you know, I get laid and stuff. You know, I wake up pissed off every day. But when I hear a Betsy song or I see you perform, I see a photo. It just enlightens the world. And I know that I'm not the only one. So thank you for that, especially in this day and fucking days that we're in. Glad to be at your service. Chester, play some bitch loud. Do it. February 18th, 2015. Right after midnight, two Stanford grad students were biking across campus and spotted a freshman. Thrusting himself on an unconscious half naked woman behind a dumpster at a party. Oh, yeah. Believing won't save you now. The players are leaving, but they don't know how. The city's bleeding. The heart and soul are gone. The music's seething. It won't last very long. Death walks behind you. It follows in your wake. Scratches at your fingers. Tears at your face. All of a sudden, it's give and take. The devil's with you. There's no mercy or mercy. There's no mercy or mercy. There's no mercy or mercy. Damnation, Damnation Alley Don't walk alone through the valley, yeah Damnation, Damnation Alley You'll never get out of here alive Damnation, Damnation Alley Oh, what an awful place to have to be You play so hard and it means nothing I just can't see what they want me to be Damnation, Damnation Alley Don't walk alone through the valley, yeah Damnation, Damnation Alley You'll never get out of here alive Damnation, Damnation Alley Don't walk alone through the valley, yeah Damnation, Damnation Alley You'll never get out of here alive Damnation, Damnation Alley Don't walk alone through the valley, yeah Damnation, Damnation Alley You'll never get out of here alive Damnation, Damnation Alley Don't walk alone through the valley, yeah Damnation, Damnation Alley You'll never get out of here alive Damnation, Damnation Alley Don't walk alone through the valley, yeah Damnation, Damnation Alley You'll never get out of here alive Damnation, Damnation Alley You'll never get out of here alive Damnation, Damnation Alley You're being very obedient now, aren't you? Yes, Matrice. So let's speak freely. Can you look up at me now? You realize that this beautiful woman is going to torture you today. I'm very aware of that. She's going to tease you today and do the wicked things that she loves to do. But just learn to learn to learn. But just learn to learn to learn. But just learn to learn to learn. But just learn to learn to learn. But just learn to learn to learn. But just learn to learn to learn. But just learn to learn to learn. But just learn to learn to learn. But just learn to learn to learn. But just learn to learn to learn. But just learn to learn. The life that is precious for me, if I get anything for you. So live for the wisdom, the only thing you have left is you. And I'm for you. The thrill that it brings and the song that it sings makes me breathless. The pain that it brings when it cracks on your back makes you helpless. The life for the reasons you feel you've got something to live for. The sting of the witness is good but it's something to live for. There's no answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or answer or Now your feelings are dated Not again will you fall The whip has been brought to you And life's full of pleasures Feel it all Feel it all Yeah Yeah Yeah Live for the whip Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah . You're riding the storm out and waiting for someone to find you The best is ahead and you know that the rest is behind you All my life has been expressed in your name but it isn't for you So live for the win, it's the only thing you have left to do Live for the win, live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win Live for the win They can't exist in day-to-day life. I still see some of these people. They still think it's 1983, 1984. They still think I should kiss their ass. And I'm like, you're not doing anything. You're nothing. You're a human just like me. I've never seen that with you. And that's another reason why I respect you immensely. Because you've always been humble. Now, I'm not around you 24-7. But I have seen the way you carry yourself in public. The way you interact with your fans. You're very graceful. You're very patient. I don't know how you do it. Sometimes I feel like jumping in and telling people to leave you alone. It's crazy. How have you achieved that, though? Because you have so many people kissing your ass. Some people telling you how beautiful. They're up on stage worshiping you. How can you adjust when you go to Vons the next day? Because I'm just, you know, once again, the Alice Cooper comparison comes in. I'm a normal, you know, everyday, you know, normal person. I'm not Betsy Bitch all the time. You know, there has to be. You know, a break between the real person and, you know, the persona on stage. Otherwise, you know, why go see a performer if they're going to be like that 24-7? You know, you want to see their character on stage. You don't want them, you know, you don't want to, you know, live that 24-7. You want to just be that person when you're on stage. And then when you're off stage, you turn it off. And, you know, and when I turn it off and I still get the admiration, that's, you know, that's Betsy Weiss, you know, accepting all of that. You know, Betsy Bitch is the character on stage. When I'm off stage, you know, people come up to me and they want a photo or they want me to sign something or they want to talk to me or they want to tell me they used to go see me when they were 12 years old. You know, make me feel ancient or whatever. Does that make you feel better? Yeah, I love it. I mean, I'm a sucker for attention, you know, and I've always been that way ever since I was little. I'm a Leo. I don't know. I'm not very much into astrology, but I understand that that's a trait. You know, it was funny. Chester, why don't you put up the pictures? Of me and Betsy Bitch. Let's see. So this is recently. You came out in Bob Nadel. I'm going to butcher his last name. Help me out here. Nadel. Nalbandian. Nalbandian. Yes. Came out in his documentary. It's the second part of the heavy metal, L.A. heavy metal. Oh, Jesus. Inside L.A. metal. Bob's a really good guy. Great guy. Very, very nice guy. I love his documentary series. Oh, yeah. Because he really gets to the true nature of it. It was sweet. So great seeing, you know, all the people, you know, back then and now and all the flyers. And, you know, it was just really, you know, just brought back a lot of memories. It was a great era, and I'm glad I was a part of it. Now, we're going to. Chester, there's a photo of you and I there. And you were very gracious to take it with me. Why don't you put up the picture of that fucking cock blocker that fucking came in after. This is what was so frightening. As you and I were having a conversation, this grown man who is my age or older, not only barged in. Do you remember that, darling? Do you remember that? You were there. You were hard. I see you, but I can't make it. Yeah, because that guy right there just came in between us and pulled you and then whipped out posters and is like, sign this. Oh, right. Yeah. And I was mortified. Do you remember that, darling? Right? My she-wolf was next to me that night. And I was, I was, not only was it rude, it was just frightening. And the fact that you were so calm and, you know. Well, what am I going to say? Get the hell out of here. At least she was being asked to sign something. With a shove in her face. Or, you know, like what things have happened to you where some random person is like, hi, I'm going to grab your balls from behind you. Do you deal with that? It just happens. No, I've never had my balls grabbed. No, no. Or my boobs. That's good. We were worried about that. Have you had any, any scares like that though? Because I've seen the admiration that you've had from your fans and, and as maybe I'm just a little pussy. Yeah. A little, I get too shaken up, but I find it disturbing. That's why when I see you out in public, I say hello and I keep a distance. I, I, I get. No, you don't. I never too overboard. I, I act right. I try to act right. No, you're very cordial. Have you ever had any scares like that? Because there's a lot of chemical imbalances out there. Unfortunately. I'm really boring. One time I got, when I was on stage, I got pulled into the audience. I was at the edge of the stage. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. I was standing over singing to somebody and I got actually pulled into the audience. I've never felt so many hands on me in my entire life, all over every part of my body. Randy, where were you? You weren't there. I wasn't there yet. Oh, this was a long time ago. No, I've gotten in knockdown drag outs over female vocalists getting shit from idiots off stage. Well, you know, if you're a performative and if I ever see that, trust me, I'll be the first to jump in and. My fans are very respectful. They are. I've noticed that. With the exception of that guy that was, we just showed the photos. Oh yeah. Well, yeah. He wanted his posters. Like I said, at least he, at least he wanted something signed. He had his Sharpies out. It gets worse. He was prepared. At least he had that. Can't turn down a guy with a Sharpie, you know? I, I, I still think it's a Chuck Wright thing out of that, out of the, um, the Quiet Riot movie. When, when they're signing autographs and everything, the kid's arguing with him on whether or not he's on the CD and then he pulls it away and doesn't want him to sign it. Right. Oh my, I can't believe they left that in. Poor Chuck. Do you. It's just horrid. It's just horrid. At that time. Uh, as we mentioned, uh, under Reaganomics and the conservative right and all that, and then the PMRC arose. I remember very vividly that, uh, you were one of the prominent artists that they, uh, would always display as far as the, I mean, Tipper Gore hated you. She carried that Be My Slave album around. Right? Everywhere she went. Everywhere. Do you think she was seriously admiring your body? I know Al Gore was. Yeah, Al wanted a little of that. He said, honey, why don't you get one of those cat and nine tails? Instead of. Tipper, we can call you Whipper. Right? Tipper didn't realize good publicity or bad publicity is still publicity. Did you. She gave us some of the best publicity of our entire career. Did you enjoy, did you enjoy being in the microscope at that time? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, it was, it was PR. It was like, you know, and that, at that time, the more controversial, the better. So it was like, yeah, you know, bring it on. Keep going. Now you mentioned that you played recently with Doro, which is another female artist who is. Righteously so on her own way has created a, or her path and is very successful worldwide. How did you enjoy performing with her? Because I was very pleased to see that you were on that bill. Oh, it was great. I was, I, I, um, rallied, you know, to get us on as, you know, Jake Perry, the, the booker for the whiskey, he had the whole show booked. It was all crammed with bands and, you know, some, uh, you know, a lot of pre-sale bands that sold tickets and it was already all booked. And I said, you know, I saw it listed. I said, yeah, we just did a concert. Right. Right. Right. Jake, you know, you got to, you know, bitch and Doro, you're going to have a line on the block. Yeah. And I, you know, first he like hedged and then he's like, all right, I'm going to cut some of that. I'm going to cut, you know, five or 10 minutes off of each band set. I'm going to give you a half an hour right before Doro. So, I mean, I was, you know, I was, it was awesome. I was really, you know, glad that it came through. Did you enjoy the recognition and the love that you got that night? Because I was there that night. Oh, yeah. It was just, it was another one of those. It was a great show. Another one of those love fests. Yeah. I love it. I'll always, like I said, sometimes, you know, it's kind of hard in a, you know, in a crowded, like when I went to go see Armored Saint at the Whiskey a couple weekends ago, which was great, by the way. You know, kind of hard to get from point A to point B, you know, without, you know, people pulling you in 27 different directions. But, you know, it's, I'm not complaining at all. You know, I'm not going to be like, oh, I hate my, like Justin Bieber. You know, I'm not going to shake hands with anybody anymore. I'm not going to do any more photo ops. I mean, it's great. You know, this is what I've always wanted. I've always wanted to be recognized and not anonymous. And it's very demanding, too. I mean, as far as I know, in the research I've done, you've never been married, correct? Never. Why is that? Never. If you don't mind me asking. And if it's too personal by all means, tell me to fuck off. No. Well, can I tell you to fuck off anyway? Sure. Thank you. Listen. I just, I'm not. You can tell me to fuck off anytime you want because you are literally, I'm sorry, my lovely she. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. You are literally the only female that I would never turn around and rebut. Oh, okay. Well, fuck off, fuck off, fuck off, fuck off. I deserve it. It's hard to say a whole bunch of times in a row. I just found that out. What was the question? Oh, married. Yeah, because it's very demanding. Why, why, the career, very demanding. No, it was never because of the career or because I thought if I got married, I wouldn't be able to sing anymore. As a matter of fact, I lived with David Carruth, my guitar player and the founder of Bitch for 24 years. And neither one of us were, you know, had Mary fever or baby fever or anything. You know, we just, it was just never a priority. It was never anything that, you know, I still think it's ridiculous. Really? Yeah. I mean, you meet someone and you're like, okay, I'm going to spend the rest of my life with you and I'm going to sign a piece of paper. And, and then if by some chance, you know, we break up, we have to, you know, get lawyers involved. I mean, I just don't, I don't know. I just don't, I don't get it. Especially in California. Yeah. It's not easy. And, you know, spend thousands of dollars to feed, you know, people bad food, you know, and, and, and, and ugly bridesmaids dresses. And I just, I don't know. I just don't believe it. It becomes more about everything but the couple. Yeah. I don't think that that's all necessary to be a couple. I'm not saying I'm against relationships. I just don't, I don't get marriage. And as far as having kids, since that's sort of synonymous with, with marriage. Yeah. She prefers dogs. I'm a, I'm a great dog mom. I never thought I'd be a good mother and I never regretted not having kids. And that actually was in part to, you know, the band thing. Cause you just can't come and go as you please when you have children. Absolutely. Especially when they're in. You're shackled. Yeah. So I never, I'm too selfish with my time. I never wanted to go there. Well, thank you for answering that. Yeah. I don't know. I'm very upfront about it. You know, anything else you want to ask me? I want to ask you so much, so much. Let's talk. I've had a boob job. Yeah. Let's talk. Let's talk. Let's talk. Let's talk about the new band. How are you enjoying this new dynamic? The new lineup? The new lineup. Oh, it's great. They're all, you know, great friends of mine and we all get along and we have fun, you know, playing and rehearsing and, you know, we're all good people and it's, and, you know, great musicians. Oh yeah. I should add that too. You know, we all, you know, everyone's just top notch in there, you know, as far as the musician, musicianship goes and it's great. It's like a, you know, rejuvenation. Of the band. I could imagine. I could imagine the pleasure in that because it seems that when the, the premise is, if you're surrounded by a bunch of positive, productive people, then it's, it's a good environment, a rich environment. Would you agree with that? Yeah. We're all mature, you know, we've all, that's another word for old. You know, we, we're not, you know, there's no, nothing that went on in the eighties, like, you know, drug addicts in the band or, you know, people not showing up to rehearsal. You know, flaking, you know, it's just, everyone's really solid and you know, we're all on the same page. Excellent. Chester, why don't we play another, uh, great Betsy Bitch song. Betsy Bitch is our guest here on the very manic Jimmy cap show. Take it away. We hope your stay here on agony island will be as memorable as it will be unpleasant. Before we show you to your suite, permit me to review the rules. Rules? No speaking unless spoken to. That is rule number one. Rule number two, the leash law. One of you must wear one at all times. All our guests are either masters or pets. There's no cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating or cheating Just to have you around I'm gonna do it to you You're gonna do it to me We're gonna do it together We are leather, leather found I said leather, leather Leather found Leather, leather Leather found The whip is my toy Hands up, say it's yours You're huffing down and screaming for more Don't let me out, guess what I'm asking for I'm gonna do it to you You're gonna do it to me We're gonna do it together We are leather, leather found I said leather, leather Leather Leather Found Leather, leather Leather found Alright!!!!! Letters, letters, letters found Letters, letters, letters found When you're trying to be a bad dad to me The way I can give me pain You realize that you're coming at me You're driving me insane I'm gonna do it to you You're gonna do it to me We're gonna do it together We're all letters, letters, letters Letters, letters, letters found Letters Letters Letters You're in need of correction, aren't you? Yeah. I might leave marks. You better be with us, Mallory. I don't care what you like. You'll be our slaves tonight. You know I always get my way. Well, let's get one thing straight. We're in control tonight. You better listen up. We really mean it. We want to fight you, Mr. Payne. Mr. Payne. And we want to rock you up tonight. We'll lift and ride you, Mr. Payne. Mr. Payne. And we'll just see how it goes by. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put up your tubes. I got those men who stand behind me all the way. I got my wings and trains at hand. Oh, come on and stand up. Take it like a man. We are the baddest in the land. Don't try and cross us, cause we'll whip you into shape. You better listen up. We really mean it. We want to fight you, Mr. Payne. Mr. Payne. We want to rock you up tonight. Mr. Payne. Oh! We'll lift and ride you, Mr. Payne. Mr. Payne. And we'll just stay here with our fight. Mr. Payne. Mr. Payne. Mr. Payne. Mr. Payne. Oh! Oh! Mr. Payne. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! But you can't step outside. . . . . Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! I'll wrap you up tonight Hey! Take that! We'll open right to this debate We'll be the winners of the fight This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate This debate All right. Hello, hello, hello. Okay. You know, I was having an interesting conversation with Randy about terrestrial radio. You have a background in radio. Yeah. I'm sorry, Betsy. We're gonna just... No, I want you to... We're gonna just split real quick. I can take a break from talking about myself just for a couple of minutes. What a... What's interesting about terrestrial radio or what was FM, what was, was the fact that radio is dead. This is the new forum now. Even though you have to dig through so much shit, the whole spirit of radio is dead. It's not the magic that it was. I mean, it's not like the Beatles were made and everything else made. And it's, yeah, God, a ton of shit. And then you've got the on demand thing. So you went from radio to being a musician? Yeah, well, I did. I did both at the same time. How are you not angry? How are you not shooting up a bunch of folks? No. Do you smoke marijuana? No. Okay. I'm straight as can be, believe it or not. That's good. But I went from, I was in high school. I would go to school. I'll go to the radio station, do my shift. Then if it was a weekend or something, I would go play that night. Wow. And I had my last hour of my show voice tracked. So you were at the good end of it, right? Yeah. Okay. So it was before. I had a blast. It was before the corporate mafias. Yeah. It was before Infinity and Cumulus and Clear Channel took over everything. It was back. And now, not only you've got, you know, like you said, the amount of shit that's internet radio. I think you need to broadcast a show yourself here on the internet, man. This is a new forum. I think he'd be great. I'd be up for it. I'd be up for like a weekend show or occasionally or, you know, who knows what more. All right. But the other thing you've got to deal with is the iPod. It's not like people listen to the radio to get their music anymore. They've got anything they want on their phone or wherever, anything, you know. Or satellite. Yeah. Satellite, Pandora. So it's not like the magic of a DJ formatting things and falling in love with the way they pick things. I'm the last asshole. I'm the only one that does that shit. Betsy Bitch is here with us. Thank you for that. Oh, you're very welcome. I miss it. I still listen to like regular radio, like KLOS and, you know, Pirate Jack FM. I mean, I have a boom box in every room in my house. I mean, I'm old school. You know, I still like radio. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You find it interesting that not only have you retained your original fan base, but now this whole resurrection with the youth where they're so obsessed, they're so hungry, they're so eager to get just a taste of that, what they've read or they've heard, that vintage metal, that dynamic era that will never be replicated. And guess what? They get to see... to see you perform, as I mentioned before numerous times, at top caliber. But do you enjoy it now? Do you enjoy seeing an old fucker like me all excited and then there's like another 15-year-old guy next to me and we're both talking about your album covers? You know, it really validates the type of music that I do. Timeless. It's the type of music that will always sell out the concerts, you know, pack out the clubs. You know, people still listen to, you know, music that was, you know, made, you know, way back when in the olden days. You know, it's still, you know, it's not a fad. It's not, you know, a flash in the pan and the fans of that type of music are the most genuine and loyal and, you know, there's just so much longevity to that, to this type of music. I mean, it really just comes down to it is a lifestyle as in for life. It is. And that's really evident in Europe when we went to Europe a couple of times. Oh my God. I can just imagine the maniacs over there. They love their metal over there. That's why all the good festivals are over there and, you know, people come from, you know, everywhere to these festivals. You know, a lot of them are in, the two that we played were in Germany, but there's people from everywhere, from Spain, you know, from South America. You know, they all converge, you know, at these big European festivals and, you know, they just, the fans, they just, there's no violence, there's no moshing, there's no, you know, rioting or setting things on fire. You know, they just all stand there and listen to the music and, you know, and the types of bands that they want to see are the bands that have been around forever, like me, like mine. You know, all the dinosaurs, I hate to call that. I wouldn't use that term. I would use, I would use, Veterans. I would use the term Legends. Legends. Okay, I like that better than dinosaurs. Sweetheart, you're not a dinosaur. You must have some sort of vampire blood because time does not touch you. I've said that to you off the record. I say that on, and I mean that with all due respect, by the way, because my lovely lady's here and I got a long ride home. I don't want to get shit, I don't want to get shit talking, but she knows how much I adore you. There are very few artists that I've experienced in my time on earth where they still can reach, regardless of what demographic, whether it's the older demographic or the young demographic, and bring out that angst. Lost Johnny, you've witnessed this. I have. When you've seen me or when you've accompanied me to bitch shows, I'm headbanging right next to a little 13-year-old kid and I feel like a fucking asshole after, but during your performance, I don't care. My mom stands up there, my 86-year-old mother. It's about having fun. She's up there, you know, headbanging and singing. You have a great support network. to Skull Crusher and, you know, so. You never, you never feel comfortable when you're singing Skull Crusher and your mom's like out there, you know? Oh, she's my biggest fan. She managed the band for a while. She booked our gigs back in the 80s, got us our PR. Well, she was in PR. She was the, she was a theatrical agent for a while and then she was the, the retail sales manager for KABC for quite a few years. So she, you know, she knew the business. She had a lot of contacts and yeah, she used to, you know, book our gigs and manage us and, you know, go to all the shows and, you know, she's been with me. What a great support network. Every step of the way, yeah. It must be nice to have a support network like that. That's not only loving but supportive and, you know, it really captures that positivity in a nice, nice little circle where if there are hard times, you have that support network to get you through whatever. Yeah, I've always, I've always had that support with my, you know, my family and my friends. I've always encouraged me to keep going and, you know, you know, letting me know, you know, always, always complimenting me, you know, my performance and my vocals, you know, much like you. But, you know, that's always, it's always, it's nice to have that. I'm sure you get complimented all the time but do you, do you recognize the sincere compliments? I do, yeah. How many times do you get asked out on, you know, oh, I love you, you're great, do you want to go out? Do you get any of that? Not at all, no. Really? No, nobody wants me. Is your significant other standing there like, hey, fuck off, get away? You mean my dog? He's my significant other. No, I, I am, I shouldn't really advertise this on the air but I'm, You just did. I'm very single. Well, I don't know if it's that I'm single or I'm just over, you know, trying to make a relationship work. Well, listen, for all you, a lot of aspiring Betsy, these new found Betsy bitch fans that are not coming from the right place. Remember, her fans are very protective. Yes, they're. Very protective. They're part fans, part bodyguards. May I ask you a personal question? It was rumored that back in the early 80s you dated Jim Ladd who at the time was hosting Lucifer LeRoc. Is that true? What? No. Jim Ladd? You mean the DJ? The DJ. Dating Jim? Lucifer LeRoc. What's the, wait, what's that? That was the show. that aired bands of your era at that time, Armored Saint, Wasp, before they became global successes? Was that on KMET? KMET. Did you date Jim Landry? No. I can't believe it. Okay, I was just trying to find out if you like DJs, that's all. Oh, you got me. No, I did go out on a date with Robin Zander once. Did you? I did, and we made out in my Ford Maverick. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it was. It was like one of the best evenings of my entire life. Have you ever dated fellow musicians of your caliber? Yeah, I mean, I've gone out with guys in bands. I mostly only have exclusively dated musicians in my career of dating. And how has that worked out for you? Well, did I just say I was single? Yeah, right. Does that answer your question? Yeah, right. Are they staring in the mirror more than you are? They've all gone south. No, I mean, I find that I have a lot in common with other musicians, and that's probably why. You don't have the narcissism. You don't have the self-absorbed addiction as they do. You don't have the self-absorbed egomaniac disease that attacks these musicians. As I mentioned again before, you're very humble, very sincere. I can be, you know, self-centered and selfish. Please don't show me that side. I've had too many disappointments in my life. Okay, I won't. Not tonight. I hold you at a high caliber, please. Not tonight anyway, I won't. Let me ask you this. 2016, we're living in a new era. As we mentioned at the beginning of the show, I believe everyone here, regardless of political affiliation, we do not have a problem with gays or lesbians, correct? We love the gays. How do you feel, or are you even aware that there is a huge, heavy metal, extreme underground female obsession with you, where they not only are obsessed and they love Betsy Bitch, but they also, like the male counterparts, they love you too as far as physical attraction. Is there a question in there? Yeah, how do you feel about that? Oh. How do you feel about younger fans? Bunch of young chicks that are into you. Oh, of course. I think it's great. I love being a role model for these girls, some of whom have become singers. As a matter of fact, when I was doing a jam night not too long ago at the Lucky Strike Jam that happens in Hollywood every week. You were at that? I've sung a few times at that, yeah. Oh, I need to frequent that. And one of the times I was singing, Carla Coates from Butcher Babies came up to me and said, that I was the reason that she's doing what she's doing. And I felt, you know, I was very humbled by that. I was very flattered. And, you know, that's an example. You know, I'm glad to be, you know, an influence and a role model. If I can, you know, get women up there rocking, then more power to me. Do you find it that, do you, did you find it at that time very difficult due to the male-dominated field and then also the political climate and then also at that time just society in general, their somewhat immature attitude towards sex? Did you find it difficult during that career, for your career at that time? I didn't really, you know, focus too much on that. I just focused on, you know, just being Betsy Bitch and, you know, having the best band and being the best I could. And, you know, I mean, a bit of it was a little frustrating, you know, when we had a little trouble, you know, getting gigs, you know, with the name Bitch. Were you ever picketed? No, but we did have to change our name for a couple of shows. I remember for one of the shows we played, because the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce, I think we were playing the Troubadour, they didn't want the word Bitch, you know, up on the marquee, so we had to be Metal Mistress or something ridiculous like that. And then I think one time we just changed the B to a P, so we were Pitch. Wow. So you played in Bitch, Pitch, and Witch? Yeah, as a matter of fact. Betsy Pitch does not have the same ring. No. No, it doesn't. Doesn't have the ring. And on that same note, just as a side story, my mother had to name me something that started with a B after an aunt of hers, so I almost was Bertha Bitch. Ooh. Really glad that didn't happen. Dodged that bullet. Yeah, I'm glad as well. Is there anything coming up for you in the next couple of years? Are you, in the next couple of months, are you going to be playing anytime soon? Are you going to be recording anytime soon? Are you going to be going on tour? One can only hope. I'll write a song tonight. I'll finish it. No, and if we don't do any of that within the next couple of years, I'm hanging it up. I mean, yeah, I mean, we're always working towards, you know, getting a good show or, you know, and like I said, we're working on some material. We hope to have something out, even if it's just something mini, you know, of four or five, six songs or whatever. Yeah, I mean, that's all, you know, that's all in the game plan. It just needs, you know, at this stage in the game, we kind of choose our battles. You know, we're not out there playing every single night of the week at every crappy club, you know, in the area. You don't need to. We want the good shows and we'll, you know, and they do come up, you know, not as frequently as I would like, and I wish that I could say there was something, you know, coming up right now. We don't have anything booked at the moment, but, you know, but. It's songwriting time anyways. There will be. Yeah, we'll have some songs. We'll have some gigs and we'll keep on keeping on. God, I would love to see you play with Alice Cooper. That'd be great. That'd be rad. Oh, God. Okay, let's book it. Yeah, let's. Alice, are you listening? I'll even be his backup singer. It's a small world, young lady. It's a very small world. You'd be surprised who listens to this podcast. I would love to see you play with fucking Alice Cooper. That would be a great show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A friend of mine attended a meet and greet recently and had him sign a bunch of stuff for me. And he, the guy said he believed him when Alice, when Alice said that he had heard of the band. He knows a bitch. And, and I think it's quite possible. I was, I was good friends with his personal manager and he knows Brian Slagle quite well. So, you know, you know, even if he was lying, it was just probably nice for him to say that anyway. Well, you know what? Maybe we can try to light some fires and get that going. I mean, Alice, you know, wouldn't you want a girl with Alice Cooper tattoo opening up for you on tour? Seeing only women bleed? That'd be fucking rad, right? Time is everyone's enemy on earth with the exception of Betsy Bitch. Let me just say this, Betsy. You are very elegant, very beautiful, very eloquent, a beautiful person inside and out, a fantastic human being and an amazing artist. The fact that time not only is very protective of you, but that it allows you to spread the beauty to multi generations is a great gift. And I feel fortunate that I was at that first genre of that. And I love seeing the seed leads growing after me. Thank you, Jimmy. Really? I mean, dude, you really, you really do have to give props. No, please don't cry. I'm going to keep doing it. I'm going to keep doing it as long as I can. Please do. I think I can still bring it. And I think I'll know when I can't. I still feel like I can. I still feel like I can. I still feel like I can. I still feel like I can. I still feel like I can. I still feel like I can. I still feel like, you know, there's, there's so much more to go. And I have a lot more to give and a lot more rocking to do. I, not only do I concur with that, I know that you have a lot more to display. There is a lot there. And these younger generation kids and also, because, you know, I'm a little older. Sometimes when I'm at these shows, I'm like, I got to get out of here. My back's killing me. I'm not as in shape as you are. Right there with you sometimes. But it is still a pleasure to be able to experience the Betsy. Bitch. Bitch. Experience. And it's wonderful to be able to exchange with you as Betsy Weiss. Thank you for being so much on the very manic Jimmy Gaff show. Also, you as well. Thank you. Randall West. Randall West. Hopefully I'll be back with you sometime doing something. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that the band was called bitch before they met. No, I'm just kidding. Now she's going to chase me home. Is that sort of an insult or what? How can people keep up to date with? What's going on with you? Well, there's www.betsybitch.com. There's my Facebook page under my real name, which is Betsy Weiss. W-E-I-S-S. I think I am maxed out on friends, but you can follow me. Just don't stalk me. Yeah. Some of us have guns. We have a bitch featuring Betsy Facebook page. If you go to my page, it's linked to that. Um, Randall West, uh, has all the band members have a page. Randall West out, Angelo, Val Despino, Chris Cardenas. We all have pages and we all promote whatever's going on on our pages. I think we had a reverb nation, um, page, but I don't know how updated that is. It's not, we can't get into it. But if you, oh yeah, I think we forgot the password. Somebody forgot the password. Yeah. Don't, don't go, don't go there. Um, and if you Google Betsy bitch, you know, you can find us on Facebook. Um, and if you Google Betsy bitch, you know, you can find us on Facebook. Um, and if you Google Betsy bitch, you know, you can find us on Facebook. Um, and if you Google Betsy bitch, you know, you can find us on Facebook. You know, you'll, whatever's happening will come up, you know, and whatever, you know, in the past will come up. There's all kinds of YouTube stuff and, you know, discographies and Wikipedia page and so on and so forth. Don't Google bitch because you'll just get all kinds of kinky. Fucking Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Unless you want that. You can also get that by Googling Betsy bitch. Yeah. We can talk politics anytime you want to. Thank you so much for being on the show. My pleasure. Thank you for having me. Thank you for wanting to talk to me. Always. And thank you all my fans for still supporting bitch. I really, really, really appreciate it. Let's end the show with, of course, some bitch. Chester, take it away. Thank you for listening. See ya. And be good, people. Bye. Bye. Dribing in rain Sometimes I wonder If my life is in vain Living in dungeons Who brought in the cells If I didn't know better I swear this was hell Wow! erzähled by! Dribing in thunder Del Ans Ans Ans Ans Del Ans Ans Ans Ans Del Ans Ans Ans Del Ans Ans Ans Del Ans Ans Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans Del Ans It's risen forever By the toll of the bell What am I gonna do with my life? Innocence is nothing They don't even care Escape never presents No, I don't ever care It's gone in my mind What the hell was it done? 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