Welcome to Time Out with Coach Mike Miller. Coach Miller is the basketball coach with the most wins in LACC history, coaching his teams to a national record of 14 straight conference championships, breaking UCLA's old record of 13. Coach Miller is the first basketball coach in California basketball history to win a state championship at both the high school and college levels. Coach Miller has been honored as Coach of the Year 18 times and has produced almost 100 Division I players. For the next two hours, get ready for stats, facts, rants, and your opportunity to chat with one of the most successful basketball coaches in the entire country and his friends. Time Out with Coach Mike Miller. Hey, welcome to Time Out with Coach Miller. We're live. We are on the air, Scott. At Skid Row Studios with Ginger Lynn's Licorice. Yeah, you know, I'm a little concerned about that. It's a family show, so let's not go too far. Scott, by the way, for those of you that are tuning in for the first time, is a professional storyteller. And let's keep that in mind. He was real on target. You didn't wait a second before putting that hand up. You're like, uh-oh. Yeah. Well, I'm afraid what you might say. I better stop listening to her. Knowing that this is a family show. I know, especially with all that sugar rush going through me with Ginger Lynn's Licorice. Yes, Ginger Lynn's Licorice. I'm afraid to ask. Jeremy is in the sound booth tonight. And oddly enough, it's Cherry. Oh, my gosh. I would have never guessed that. Oh, my gosh. Jeremy is in the sound booth tonight. All right. Jeremy is the owner and directing manager of Skid Row Studios. Back from Chicago. Back from Chicago. From Chi-Town. From Chi-Town. And, you know, it's great to have Jeremy in the sound booth because we get spoiled when he's here. And we don't always get the quality that we get from Jeremy. So it's... Oh, come on now. Don't be a hater. No, I'm a hater. Last week was... I'm sensing snark in the room. Last week was really good with Jenny. And... But I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited to have Jeremy in the sound booth. Excited like a baby monkey? Something like that. Yeah, something like that. And I'm not angry or alarmed or anything like that. So I'm excited. So anyway... It's the licorice. Is that why I'm excited? Yeah. That's why you're eating. a few pieces carefully. Is it? You see, Scott's a professional storyteller. But anyway, Scott, we are at Skid Row Studios. And the thing about it is, it's never quite the same when you're not here because people really think we're on Skid Row. Yeah, but you know, we're pretty far off Skid Row. You know, it's a little bit down the road. A little bit down the road. There's a couple districts in between. Okay, so we're kind of jewelry district adjacent more than Skid Row adjacent, right? Yep, somewhere between the lawyers bars and the jewelry district. Okay, I'm good with that. There's a little stretch of the fancy whiskey bars, you know, right on the corner there. Yeah. Hey, I never got that. Like, why would I go to a bar and spend good money for fancy whiskey? I mean, I never got that. If I want to go to a bar, I need to go to a bar. If I want to go to a bar, I guess I'm trying to be social, right? And I don't really need fancy whiskey. Yeah. Okay, like I've been to see you perform. And you performed at bars before. Yeah. And you know, you can just... But I don't perform at bars with fancy whiskey. No, you don't. You sure don't. But you know, people can just go in and order a beer and enjoy the storytelling. Or have whiskey on the sidewalk and behind the bar. Yeah, but what's the deal with fancy whiskey? Actually, I've been in there before. Well, you know, it's kind of a lawyer district around here. You know, so a lot of the lawyers, young lawyers, they have to show that they can afford, you know, a good age scotch. And, you know, and that's how they pick up the women. Because if you can spend 20 bucks on a shot and not blink, then you can go out with some hot chick that you wouldn't be able to go out to go out with on your own. So that means you have money if you can waste 20 bucks on a shot of fancy whiskey. Damn straight. Okay. With scotch, too. Good scotch. Is it worth 20 bucks? Yeah. Yeah. If I'm not paying for it. Or if I can afford it. Okay. I gotcha. I gotcha. I've seen Lakers in there. Okay. Okay. Were any of them drinking and driving? I don't know. It wasn't Odom. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Well, anyway, it's great to be on. We're excited. Jeremy, you're back. We've been giving you props. Thanks. And we're happy to have you in the sound booth. Last week you were with Jenny, but it's always a relief when we have the boss and station manager and owner operator in the sound booth because we know we're going to get quality sound. Thank you. So I've got Scott over here to my left, who, as I mentioned, is a professional storyteller. And I'm excited, Scott, that we've got a great show tonight. And I've got across from me, coming into the game a little bit late, but he's in the game. Well, you know, I'll be the starter or the sixth man. It doesn't matter. First man. First man. First man. First man. First man. First big man off the bench. Now, tonight, he's the first big man off the bench. We've got Coach Miller's favorite former power forward. That would be Chris Maxwell. How you doing, Coach? We got Ginger Lynn's licorice right here. There we go. There ain't no telling where that was. I know. That's why we're all in a good mood. Do you guys hear the bees? I do. You hear the bees buzzing? I thought that was in my head. No, that's the bees buzzing. So, Chris, he's been giving me the business. So, we walk in, you know, we're here for a pre-production meeting, and there's a big tub of licorice there. And when I walk in, well, when I looked in our studio, the lid was on it. When I walked in, the lid was off of it. So, I'm assuming, Scott, you must have removed the lid. I may have. Okay. So, immediately, Chris, I noticed that the licorice is rather stale. It's like as hard as a rock. Yeah. Hard as a what? A rock. Well. Isn't that what happens when you stick it in water? Yeah, this is. Stick it in what? Yeah. Well, like I said, if this is my girl Ginger Lynn's licorice, this is, it ain't no telling where it's been, how long it's been out. Okay. Jeremy probably can answer a couple of those questions. Wait a second. Wait a second. Ginger Lynn earned my equity. This is a. I'll take that ride, and this licorice tastes damn sweet. This is a family. Family show, Chris and Scott. So, don't use any dirty words. I didn't say who she was. I just said. You said it could be anywhere. Right. And that gives an implication. Hey, well, you know, if their mind wanders, that's not my fault. Okay. I got you. Well, here's the thing. Ginger Lynn was my girlfriend in high school. Okay. She just didn't know it. No. Well, Ginger Lynn apparently is some big adult video icon star. Star. Entertainment star. Adult entertainment icon and star. If they had the Wooden Award, she would have won it. Okay. Gotcha. Well, let's not disrespect the Wooden Award, please. If they had a Heisman Trophy. Okay. I'm fine with that. She would have won it twice. Okay. She'd be Archie Griffin. She'd be Archie Griffin with like a pro career. Okay. Chris, do you notice that Scott is eating more and more of this red licorice? Yes. And the more he eats, the more goofy. He's getting. Yeah. I think that's the closest he's been to a girl of that stature in his life. Well, that stature. Yeah. Of that stature. Okay. Well, I don't know what's worse, Chris. He's got the Ginger Lynn red licorice in the left hand and the Starbucks coffee in the right. Is that like an upper and a downer at the same time? That's crazy delicious. You know, at this point, it's just whatever. Okay. Well, here's the thing, Chris. I feel like this show is passing me by a little bit right now. Hey, don't we have the number one seed Westchester basketball team coming in? Yeah, we do. I'm just trying to get into the red licorice story. You keep interrupting. Should I hide the licorice before they come in? So what happened, Chris, is I say to Jeremy, we're off the air, and I buzz in to the sound booth, and I say, whose licorice is this? And he responds, well, it's from Ginger Lynn. And immediately, I got a little ill. I'm queasy in my stomach because I ate a couple pieces. Yeah. Hey, don't go there. So I'm a little concerned. Chris, I'm advising you not to eat any of the red licorice. No, I think I'm cool now. I wanted to. When I first walked in, I saw it, and I did want a piece. But after I found out whose it was, then. I can't. Yeah. Yeah, I'm good. Okay. I'm good. All right. I got you. But I'll let you know, I saw a really great game Tuesday night. I've been traveling. It seems like I've been traveling. I've been traveling all over Southern California watching different games, and I saw a great game Tuesday night in the Open Division. Okay. Well, we're going to talk about that. Now, what we want to do, we're going to talk about, and I saw a game tonight. In fact, I coached a game tonight, even. We're going to talk about all that and more. But what I want to do is I want to take a real short commercial break, and I want to get our guests ready to come in. We've got some exciting in-studio guests tonight. Hey, Jeremy, give me a short break, and when I come back, we're going to have a Westchester High School comment, they are playing for the City Division I A Championship tomorrow night at L.A. Southwest College. We're going to have some of their team members and coaches in studio. Jeremy, let's go to break. We'll be right back. 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I'm excited to tell you about my new instructional videos that are on DVDs produced and distributed by Scoreboard Media out of Las Vegas, Nevada. Scoreboard Media is a great outfit. They also publish books on recruiting and basketball. But what I want to tell you about is to make sure you get a chance to see my post-play DVDs. If you want to become a better post player, score more in the post, and be more effective for your team, why not check out my DVDs? These great instructional videos will really help improve your game. Scoreboard Media is the place to get it. Let them out. Let them out. Okay. Okay, we're on the air. Welcome back to Time Out with Coach Miller. We're excited to be here. Scott has got another piece of the ginger Lynn licorice in his hand. I'm just listening to Coach's, like, improbable chemistry. It's like, what could work its way onto licorice and how? And it's like, dude, that ain't happening. Well, anyway. It's damn fine licorice. All I know is this. Scott Schultz. One of my... One of my favorite former staff members and my special guest co-host. He's going to town on the ginger Lynn licorice, and he's not stopping. What flavor is this? I don't know. Cherry. And Coach Johnson, he says to me, you guys weren't in the green room, so you didn't hear it yet. He says to me, while we're on the air, that when he was in high school, ginger Lynn was his girlfriend. Oh, yeah, yeah. Isn't that what you said to me? Yeah, I did. I thought you were saying someone else said it to you. No, you said it to me. I was like, oh, someone else, too? While we were on the air. Okay. And we are on the air, and we are excited to have Westchester. It's the internet. Yeah. We are excited to have Westchester in the house with us, or part of Westchester, anyway. I've got... Number one seed. Number one seed. Playing for the city championship tomorrow night. Before playing for the states. Yeah, they'll be in the state tournament for sure. Mark. Marlon. And Morton. Welcome to the show. Welcome back to the show. Thank you, Coach. How are you doing? I'm good. You got to bring that microphone a little closer to you. There you go. Is that the three inches? That's the three inches. There you go. There you go. If you just cut one of those ginger Lynn licorices in half, you could use it as a measuring device, and then maybe Scott wouldn't eat it. But welcome, and you will be in the state tournament regardless of what happens tomorrow night. Yeah. We'll automatically be in. We'll probably be in the open division. Well, that was going to be my next question, but you beat me to it. Go ahead. Tell me about it. We'll probably be in the open division. L.A. teams, the two finalists in this are automatically in the open division. Oh, is that right? Yeah. Automatically in the open division. Automatically. Okay, so then it's not probably in the open. It's in the open. It's in the open. Okay. Is that where you want to be? Yeah. We always want to play the best, and the open is for the best. You know, the modern days, Etiwanda, I guess Chino Hills. Chino Hills, us. Right. Loyola. El Camino. I don't know. Well, they might go to Division I. Yeah. Yeah. Because they lost the second round. Yeah, so we always, you know, that's our challenge. Okay. Play against the best. Yeah, I like it. I like it. I have this thing on this show, and one of the reasons why I wanted to bring you guys on, and we'll get to Cameron here in a minute, to have you introduce Cameron. Cameron Davis. I'm going to let you introduce Cameron. You introduce him, though. Okay. But we have this undefeated streak on our show. See, I tried to get Coach Johnson to come in earlier with Washington Generals, but I couldn't get it done. We have this undefeated streak on our show. No matter who we have on, they win. In fact, we had DeMatha on the night before they played. You all. Yeah, I know. And they beat you. Yeah, I know. Okay. With the jinx, the free throw. Whoever we have on wins. We had Cal State Fullerton on last week, and they go out. Gotten upset Cal State Long Beach the next night. That was a good win for the district, too. Yeah, it was. So we have this thing. So I wanted to make sure that we get Westchester on the night before the city championship, because that means when I show up tomorrow with my media credentials. Okay. Okay. Where's mine at? In my pocket. Man, I might have to make a detour tomorrow. In my pocket. Okay. Okay. When I show up tomorrow with my... My media credentials, and I get to sit table side and watch my Comets... Yes, sir. ...win another city title. Yeah, it'd be the 10th. It'd be the 10th, I think. I think it's got to be more than 10. No, 10 since the decade. Well, no, there's 10 in a decade. You'd ever... I mean, 10 since the 2000s. Yeah. You haven't won it every single year. That's just the number he expects to win this decade. Okay. So out of 14... Yeah, out of 13 years... Coming up on 14 years, you would have won 10 if you win tomorrow night. Yeah, it'd be 10. When you win tomorrow night. When we win tomorrow night, it'll be 10. Taff has four, and I want to say... Fairfax has one. Yeah. Something like that. Is that right, Chris? Right. Yeah, somebody... Chris is our stats and facts man. Usually he knows. Chris, did you look that up? Yeah, I saw it in LA Times last week. That's what I saw. Yeah, I saw it in LA Times too. You guys have nine. Taff has four. They won a couple when Jordan Farmer was there. Well, they won. One they won, they shouldn't have won. That was the year that Amir... Where they supposedly said that we recruited Amir. Right. Right, right. Everybody knows Westchester doesn't recruit. And Fairfax... Everybody knows that Westchester doesn't recruit. And anyone who could say such a thing, that is just scandalous and outrageous. And when Coach Miller finishes law school, I will sue you. Well, I mean, their program is to the point where they don't have to recruit. You know, their program speaks for itself. And, you know, kids want to come there. Hey, you see what he's doing with the licorice? Yeah. See, the brothers over there, they're not digging into that licorice because they don't know where Ginger Lynn put that stuff. That's why he's eating it. Hey, you know, if you want to see where she put it, you can watch her show. It's on five days a week on Skid Row Studios. So when you're digging up some of the time, with Coach Miller Archives, you can look up Ginger Lynn and licorice and then, you know, let us know. Jeremy's back there grinning. Hey, Jeremy, what time is that Ginger Lynn show on every day? 4 to 6 p.m. every day. Wow. 4 to 6 p.m. You've got Ginger Lynn in here. Is she sitting in my seat where I sit right here? Yes, she is. Oh, boy. See, you might as well have the licorice. Yeah. No kidding. Well, anyway... She's coming home with you. One of the big reasons why you should win the number 10, you should win the number 10, you should win the number 10, is because the city title since 2000 is sitting right next to you. So tell me about Cameron Davis before we start talking to him. Cameron Davis. I met Cam about... Yeah. It's not Davis. Talk to me. Introduce yourself. Talk to me. Cameron Young. Cameron Young. I was like, when did you change your last name? Yeah, did you change your last name? That's what I thought he did. I was like, when did you do that? Why did you do that? Well, Cameron Young, I met him about four years ago. But you didn't recruit him? No. Okay. No. We were actually... How did we meet? Through... We met through Cal Supreme. Cal Supreme. Okay. And I saw this young man in the eighth or ninth grade going up blocking shots and had a big upside and was a good young man. And so we sat down and talked and I liked him and he went to school with my nephew at Frederick Douglas. Okay. And... And... His stepfather came up to me and asked me about Westchester. And I said, I don't really talk about Westchester with these AAU things. And he said, well, we're thinking about checking in anyway. And could you help us? And I said, yeah. And during the course of that time, me and Cameron, we developed a friendship. We developed a deep friendship. A deep friendship to where you get mad at each other so bad at each other. We laughing at it now. But... We, you know, it's one of those love relationships that it's an uncle-nephew relationship that you see so much potential in him. And he... He disappoints you sometimes because he doesn't live up to that potential? No. He disappoints me when I know he can go harder. Oh, okay. And he doesn't want to go harder. Oh. And, you know, like I told him one time, that's just being young. Like today, we were talking. We were talking about ball handling. I said, Cameron. He said, oh, man, I'm working on my ball. I'm doing ball handling. I'm doing... And I said, Cameron, remember I tried to get you to do that three years ago? And he was like, yeah. I said, Cameron, that's... Hey, that's mistakes. I mean, that's just growing up. I said, there's things that me at this age, you know, that I wish I would have did known then, I did now. Yeah, sure. I always like to say, I always like to quote Confucius, life was meant to be lived backwards to forwards. That's a good one. Exactly. Okay. And so... So, but Cameron's getting some of that wisdom now. Now, and Cameron, you're only 17. You're going to be 18 in, is it March? Yeah, 24. Yeah. So this month, you're going to turn 18. See, I didn't screw that one up. Someone got me... A fellow March birthday, you know, it's at the end of the month. Someone, I've only met Cameron once and talked to him once and someone's got me recruiting Cameron Davis and really the guy that's the better player is Cameron Young. Yeah. Yeah. So, so, so, but I, I, I enjoyed watching when I first saw Cameron play Scott, I went to a conference league game and they were playing at university high school and, and he had such great energy. And, and I always say Marlon that, that energy, enthusiasm, uh, and attitude are skills just like dribbling, passing and shooting. Yeah. Energy, enthusiasm and, and, and attitude, good attitude. Those are important skills. And I really liked Cameron Scott because he was, he had a lot of energy. Maybe he was eating some licorice that night before the game. I don't know. Cause Scott sure has a lot of energy. So I'm watching Cameron and he's blocking shots and he's rebounding and he, he just, he's, he's just kind of dominating that game at university. They gave you a pretty good game. I thought that night too. And, um, and that's when I first mentioned, I noticed Cameron, Cameron young. That's when I noticed Cameron young. And, and, and I mentioned that, uh, you weren't at that game that night, Marlon. And I, and I text you, I said something like, Oh, I like number 11. Who is number 11? And that's when he texts me, Cameron young. Or maybe you text me Cameron Davis. I did. I know I did. I don't know where the Davis, who said Davis? Somebody said that, but Cameron is upside. He plays so hard. And when he wants to dominate a game, he can't. I mean, and it's one of those where it's just consistency now. Yeah. He, you know, his confidence level, you know, like some days in practice, we confusing and we understand that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When he wants to play like the Palisades game, we had a playoff game, Palisades game. He dominated that game. And after the game, like I told him, you basically won that game for us. So my question for you, Cameron, my first question for you is, so coach Marlon, who's been around a long time and he's coached a lot of great players. And he says that when you want to, you can dominate a game. So what makes you want to or not want to dominate a game? Well, um, well, some games I feel like I'm going to dominate a game. I feel like my team needs me more than others. So, um, I try to be more of a leader and assert myself earlier in the games. Okay. Okay. And, and, and when you feel that, what, what triggers that in you that you would feel that is it a certain kind of opponent or is it a certain feeling you get from your teammates or what, what triggers that in you? Well, sometimes it could be the opponent opponents. Like, um, we play like a Fairfax or something. I know it's a big game and, or for myself. I know a lot of teammates. If we, um, start the game off slower, I know that, um, they could use me as a spark to pick it up. Okay. So, so what would you say your best, you know, you're 17, you've got a lot of basketball ahead of you in your life. And I, and I want to talk about that yet, but I want to talk about right now, what do you think your best attributes as a basketball player are when you step on the court, what makes you stand out? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, maybe it's just my athleticism. Okay. Okay. And, and, and how do you like to use that? Um, well, on a fast break, I like to, you know, dunk and try to get my team hyped up or try to jump over, uh, people to get rebounds and stuff like that. Right. Right. I've seen that, Chris. I've seen that. You know, you wouldn't know it. But the guy sitting next to you, you know, he played for me a long time. How many years ago was that, Chris? Going on 23 years now. 23 years. The last game he played for me, we won a state championship in the Oakland Coliseum. And right after that, Fremont High School. Now, Coach Johnson might not even be old enough to remember, but Coach Marlin is probably. But Fremont High School played, of L.A., played, Chris? St. Joseph's. I'll let Chris tell the story. St. Joseph's of Alameda. That was with Jason Kidd. Jason Kidd, who's a head coach now in the NBA. It was his junior year. Jason Kidd is one of the two best high school players I've ever seen play. I'm talking high school. Now, he had a great NBA career. You know, he had a great college career. But, you know, Jason Kidd isn't on the Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore of NBA players, to use LeBron James's. Yeah, no way. You know, he had a great NBA career. I think he won one championship. Hall of Fame. You know. He's an Hall of Famer. Yeah. Definitely a Hall of Famer. Okay. But, you know, you don't think, when you say Jason Kidd, you're not thinking he's one of the best NBA players of all time. But he might be on that Mount Rushmore of high school California players, though. One of the two best high school players I've ever seen play. Yeah. You know who the second is? Marlon will know. Who? Hood guy. L.A. guy. Hood. Ray Lou. There you go. I knew Marlon would know. That's everybody. That's Mount Rushmore. That's the king of Mount Rushmore. Yeah. Raymond Lewis and Jason Kidd. The two best high school players that I've ever seen. Now, getting back to this young high school player. So, Cameron, he plays with a lot of energy, a lot of enthusiasm. Now, so much so that the last game, the semifinal game. Against Narbonne. Last, was it Saturday? It was Saturday. So, last Saturday night, Cameron, you started off. Now, you're a starter, right? Yes. Have you started the whole year? Yes. Yeah. This guy's a starter. And, you know, I don't think he gets as much credit, maybe, as some of the other guys that are starting. I agree with that. But you're a starter at Westchester. You know, that's meaningful. It's something special. And so, here's the story. The rest of the story. As I see him play, I really like him. And, see, I don't go. Chris and Scott will tell you guys. When I go and look at games, I don't want you to tell me ahead of time who's good. I hate guys that do that. Okay? I'm going to go and I'm going to watch the game. And I'm going to decide who's good. Because there could be some guy that signed with Georgetown that he's a prima donna. And I'll see that. Or there could be a guy like Cameron who hasn't signed with anyone. Who's one of the best. Best players. Okay? And I'm going to determine that myself. So, I'm going to watch the game. So, I'm watching the game. And Cameron is standing out. Okay? And so, I text in Marlon, who's my guy. And, by the way, I promised my guy, Marlon. Chris, do you remember this? I don't know if Scott was on the show then. When we had Westchester in early. Yes. Were you there? Yes, I was. And I promised Marlon and the players that came in that night, which was Leon Gooden, Ryan. Ryan. Hewitt. Hewitt. And... Josh Rudeau. Josh Rudeau came in. I promised them, if you get to the city championship game, that I'll bring you all back in the night before the city championship game. You remember that promise? Yep. So, here we are. So, I go in. I'm texting Marlon. I like number 11. Who's he? What... Where is he signed? You remember that, Marlon? Yep. What division won? What division won? School, as he signed at. Marlon texted me back. He hasn't signed. I text him back. This is during the game. I text him back. Really? You said, why? I said, why? And I told you. And I text back. I said, because the local schools don't know how to recruit and people overlooking him. Yeah. Yeah. Are you a senior this year? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And a really good player. And is definitely a division one talent. And that's kind of weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with you, didn't I? You don't know how to recruit. Because, I mean, I know you guys get a lot of recruiters that come into your games. And, you know, if he's as good as Coach, because I value his opinion and as good as you're both saying, if he's not getting recruited yet, I mean, there's some, especially from like local schools, like, I mean, it may not be a UCLA or SC, but, you know, like a Big West team or a. Yeah. But the Big West. Pacific team or. Big West schools. When I was at Fullerton, the thing that I did was I got everybody from LA. Big West schools won't look at LA. Because Big West schools, like in probably in Cameron's case and other good players around LA. They have a preconceived notion already. Yeah. And they look at, they try to see what's wrong with them instead of what's right with them and what's the upside could be. And see Cameron, the thing about Cameron upside is so big, it's not even funny. He doesn't even know how good he can get. Right. Um. Because when he starts playing harder. Mm-hmm. He's going to be twice as good. See, you haven't seen him. My thing was he's one of the best shot blockers I've seen in a long time. Oh yeah. No, I've seen that in him. I've seen that in him. Now, now I'm going to, I'm going to tell one more Cameron story and then we'll take a quick commercial break. Um, and I went to their game, uh, at Fairfax. So as Cameron, you said that was like a big game, like Fairfax is your, that's kind of your rival, right? Yeah. And so I went to that game and you guys, you guys just blew them out. And to, to, to Chris, to underscore what you and Marlon were saying at that game, I saw at least 20 division one coaches there, all the local coaches there, Loyola Marymount, Pepperdine, SC, UCLA, you know, all the big West schools. And it was just like, it just like coach Marlon said, Scott, it's like, I'm watching this game now. I know a little something about basketball. I've put like a hundred guys in division one. Marlon. Uh, more than anyone else, even more than Westchester. I don't think you have a hundred yet in D1. No, we're working on you're working on getting there. So, so what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, what are they watching? It's like, this kid is blocking shots. He's running the floor, he's dominating the game. And you know, w what are they watching? Like I'm at Pepperdine and, and I don't want that guy. I mean, I've sent three players to Pepperdine. Like I know how good you have to be to, to, to win at Pepperdine. My guy was co-MVP of the conference with the Gonzaga guy. I mean, I know how good you have to be to play at Pepperdine to win in that league. Meet Cameron, Cameron Young, not Davis, Cameron Young. He can't play at Pepperdine Marlon? Oh yeah. He can play at Pepperdine. He can play at Pepperdine, Fullerton, Northridge, Irvine, Riverside, Riverside, Santa Barbara. His, um, I don't know what they're looking at. Yeah. I really don't. And, and the thing about Cameron is, is that he has grades too. Oh, okay. All right. And that's the thing that this young man has grades. Okay. And I know for you as a coach, that must be one of the most frustrating things. Like you just said that they look for what's wrong instead of what's right. So you know, if, if he's a good kid, if he's as good as the kid as you say he is, plus he has grades. Plus he's a talent on the floor with tremendous upside. So again, what is it that you think they're looking at? What it is, is he's not a flashy kid. He's not a kid that, you know, that kicks his leg up when he's going for a, going for, that's the inside joke that we got. Kicks his leg up when he's going for the basket or he's not one of those that beat on his chest or he's not one of those that jump around and do pirouettes when they hit a jumper. And, and, and you're not sure. You're not supposed to, you're supposed to act like you've been there before. That's how he acts. That's the thing. He acts like, you know, he acts like, uh, I did this before. It's no big thing. Yeah. Now, Cameron, how much did you play last year as a junior? Um, well I was, I was in the second group where we did five and five out last year. Right. Right. And I saw that and, and, and, and, but you played a lot last year, right? Yeah. I mean about half the game. Pretty much. A little bit less than a half maybe. But you played a lot and you won. I mean, you're not a secret. I mean, you're not a secret. I mean, that's the thing that's, that's mind boggling. It's like you won the city championship last year, right? Yeah. Correct. Okay. So here's a guy, won a city championship. He's about to win his second. Yeah. Good student. Good person. I met him. One of the top programs. A winner. The top program in the city. Yeah. Not one of the, and I, I met, I met his family. 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Yeah, that would be nice. If you're really a Comet fan, you'd go. It's free for us on iTunes. You'd go into iTunes. Now, as you can see, Marlon, I don't have an iPhone. So I don't have iTunes. He has a dumb phone. I definitely. I have a dumb phone, not a smartphone. And I'm very old tech, not new tech. Now, that said. He has a rotary dial. That's right. Scott, how do they find our show on iTunes? You go to iTunes.com and you just type in Time Out with Coach Miller. Okay, so then they can find the episodes. They can find last week when we had Cal State Fullerton in, Dietrich Taylor and his staff. And we had a great show. And this week we have an even better show. We have Westchester getting ready to play for the city championship. And in our second hour, we've got the North Hollywood High School Huskies. They are a new coaching staff, first year program for that coaching staff. And they had a pretty good year. I actually saw them play and upset a higher seeded team in the playoffs. And when I saw them play, I liked how they played. I said. I told the head. Coach, I want to get you on the show. So they're going to be in studio in the second hour. And that'll be fun, too. But right now we're on Westchester. Chris, you had a question. I had a question for Coach Marlin. And I'm going to work my way backwards. But it goes along the line of what we're talking about with the recruiting aspect and how to evaluate players. In my opinion, and we've talked about it on this show before, pro basketball is just horrible to watch now. To me. I mean, you know, it is very much so. I mean, compared to what I'm used to watching in a little bit in the 70s, 80s, 90s to now. And I blame it on what I blame it on is. A.U. basketball, travel team basketball, because it seems like that's the way you get recruited now. Like when I played, when you played, when if you played, whoever played back in our day. The only way you can get recruited is, you know, they had. Go through your coach, you know, and, you know, your high school coach took care of that. And, you know, only the cream of the crop played travel ball or a ball. And so I'm looking at it now. And, you know, these kids don't learn fundamentals anymore. Like for me, it was it was really nice to watch. Like I haven't seen you guys play that this year, but like watching Loyola play. They're a very good fundamental team. Well coached. Right. And so. You know, so to me, these kids, they don't learn a lot in high school. So then when they get to college and college, you know, they don't have time to teach. You know what I mean? That's when it turns into a business. So now these kids still aren't learning anything. They're playing, but they're not learning the fundamentals. They're not learning. Then when they get in the pros, it further escalates that. So I want to get your thoughts on what you thought about that. I agree with you. I tell everybody all the time. The worst thing happened. I was playing as a year. And the reason why you have so many teams with so many coaches and being older, you know, I played with a team called the Washington musicians. That was like way back in the days. And they were like one of the first, first really AAU teams. And now you have people who, who are living their dreams through the kids. Right. And they're not teaching them the fundamentals because basically they didn't play. And a lot of coaches don't understand. Like, like I was sitting watching. A game, a AAU game last year. And the guy was yelling and screaming at the player and the player was like, well, what should I do? And he couldn't answer that question because he never played. Always tell like young coaches, always explain to them, put yourself in that kid's place. And so you have a lot of AAU teams that coaches aren't really teaching. You have a lot of AAU teams who want to be, instead of being a coach, they want to be their buddy. You have a, you coaches that who, when it comes to certain, that favor certain kids. If a kid, I call it the LeBron syndrome. Right. If a kid, if a kid is already good, they want to work with him. But the kid that's not good, they didn't want to work with. And I always throw the example of Jordan Farmer played for me. And when Jordan was in the ninth grade, nobody knew who Jordan Farmer was. Didn't know. And, and we really worked. And, and he had a coach, Derek Taylor, who was really a good coach. And me and Derek used to say, Derek put him on my AAU team because my AAU team, what we did was we, we drilled. We drilled for about an hour. Then we played pickup. And a lot of these kids don't play pickup basketball either. So they don't have a feel for the game. Right. You know, and so AAU and, and everybody is pimping now because they want to meet the college coaches. And this is their 15 minutes of fame is when this right about now, when March come on, all the way to August, this is their time to shine. Right. And I think the NCAA now is going to, what they're basically about to do is give it back to the college, to the high school coaches. Right. You know, um, high school coaches, you know, they're not living their dream through the kids. They're doing it because they love basketball. They love teaching. They love. And so what happens is again, you get kids with attitude problems because they get away with murder on the AAU level. And they really think they're good at, at the AAU level, which they don't play no defense. Right. Right. They don't teach them basic defense. Not all, not all. Now when I speak, I'm not speaking about all programs. Right. But for the most part. For the most part. And they don't teach them basic defenses. You know, they don't teach them man on ball defense. They just let them play. And so what happens is when you get to high school and the coach has to teach you how to run what we call double fist or fist, you don't know how to do it. You're frustrated. You got an attitude. Then when you get, then when it gets to college and you're playing with grown men who some of them know how to play. Right. And, and, and you're not at that level. And, and the AAU coach now was badmouthing the height, the college coach saying the college coach didn't, you know, let him, let him go. You know, and like I told a guy one time, when you coach in college, you have a dude who, you have a dude that you want to pass the ball. You have a dude that you want to shoot the ball. You have a dude that you want to rebound the ball. Right. And, and at that level, they don't teach. Now, every, every states states states states states states states states states states Everybody wants to get the big boys, anything over 6'6", 6'7", shooting threes. They don't have the basic Karl Malone's no more. Post moves and footwork. I mean, just in terms of footwork, I mean, like I've seen games and I'm just looking at them like, and that was one thing I was happy for myself that I got a chance to play for Coach Miller is because we worked on that every day. And so when I look at, one of the things I look at is how's his footwork. Like, you know, I've seen, I'm not going to say any names, but I've seen a kid play that's going to a major D1 school next year. And I'm looking at him, I'm like, his footwork is garbage. I've seen a whole bunch of them. Right. You know, it's funny. I went to, Coach Miller asked me to come to one of his practices one day. And so, you know, I know Coach Miller. I've been knowing him. But, you know, I never went to a practice. Right. And I went to the practice, and I tell people all the time, I was shocked. There was some stuff he was doing, he was teaching. And I was like, and I'm not saying it because he said, I'm not getting the cross from you. Exactly. If he wasn't even in here. Right. Say the same thing. Say the same thing. And that's why his program and his kids go further and see, A, you doesn't do that. Right. They don't do that. And that's the problem. And that's why, that's what separates. Like, Coach Zamm is a stickler on footwork. He's a stickler on defense. He's a stickler on weak side rebounding on Cameron. He's a stickler on all that. And that's why when kids leave our program, and they go to these colleges, you know, they're starting as freshmen, or they're sixth-man freshmen, or they're playing. What's interesting about that, and I have kind of a pet peeve about that, and it comes to, before I go, I want to introduce, we do have a new guest on the air with us here, and he's going to get to a couple questions here in a minute. Remember I said earlier that I met Cameron's family, and we were talking about him, and how weird it was, Scott, that he wasn't really being recruited or anything. Yeah. So this is part of Cameron's family right here. I've got right here. I've got Darian. How you doing? I'm doing good, Darian. Welcome to the show. Glad to be here. Okay, I'm glad to have you. We're going to get to you and Cameron here in a minute. But, you know, one of the things Marlon said, Chris, is this, and I am going to name names because I do. But I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to put a kid out there like that. Matter Day players. Matter Day players don't do well in Division I. They don't. I'm going to name names. Right. Okay. Matter Day players go Division I, and they don't do well. Okay? All right. Yeah. I just named names. Yeah. Okay. Now. The two for my favorite team. Okay. I digress. The Westchester players go Division I, and they do pretty well. Yeah. And to me, it's important how you prepare the players. It's like one of the things that, I was most proud of at LACC, and Scott saw that. He was part of my program for many years. Probably, Chris, 90% of our players averaged more points in Division I than they did in junior college. Oh, yeah. I believe that. And Scott saw it. I mean, it was constant. It was constant. It was every year. It was every year. We had guys, you know, they would go D1, and they'd average more points. And they did playing for us. And so. A lot of players would just give up their offensive game, you know, in city and focus on other parts. Yeah. Well, I mean, we taught them how to play right. Yeah. And we got them prepared to excel in Division I. And I think the Westchester players, and Marlon talked about it, Coach Azam demands more than most high school coaches do. And certainly, in a positive way, when I use that word demand, I think that's a positive word. Demands more. Defensively, demands more in terms of team play and sharing the ball. And so, Cameron, tell me what it's like. You've been part of this program now. You've been at Westchester all four years, right? Three years. Three years. And your 10th grade year, you played JV, right? Yeah. Okay. And this is two years on varsity. So you've been part of the program. Now tell me what it's like for you. What does it mean to you to be part of the Westchester? What does it mean to you to be part of the Westchester program? It means a lot. Azam has taught me a lot through the three years of being there. He does preach a lot of defense first and the little things that help us win a game, footwork, rebounding. He preaches that more so than the offense. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. And you take a lot of pride in the tradition and the family atmosphere that's created. I know Coach Marlon feels that it's a very, very important part of the program, the family atmosphere that's been developed. Do you take a lot of pride in that? Yes, I do. And the players, you're pretty close with. I mean, I notice that when I'm watching you guys. Mm-hmm. So kind of, can we say it's a little bit like a family? Yeah. Okay. Now we'll get to the real family. One more thing, real quick. I want to add one more thing. Traditionally, too, the thing about Westchester is that our kids, the ones that have played for us, they come back and they teach them, you know, we always look at the banner and I always preach to them dudes, that 01 class, that 02 class, you know, about, and those guys come back and what they do is they teach them the unity, you know, the respect and the love that we have for each other. That's really important. You know, we get into it and it's over. Well, you know, that to me is the definition and the difference between a program and a team. When the former players are coming back and contributing when it's a bigger than a team, it's a program. And to me, that helps define that. So now we get Cameron to, we talked about kind of the team is kind of a little bit like your family or a family. And now we get to the real family here. Okay. I get to the real family. And when I met your brothers, you were in the locker room last week at LA Southwest. You guys had just won. It was a pretty tough game. And you guys had just won. And I had met your brothers and I looked at them and I said, oh, is Cameron the youngest? Is he like the baby in the family? Is he the baby in the family, Darian? There's actually one younger than him, but yeah, he's pretty much the baby. He's pretty much the baby. Okay. And so I figured right off, you weren't there, Cameron. I said, oh, y'all are the reasons then he plays so hard. And you all probably beat him up a lot. You all probably beat him up a lot on the court when he was younger, huh? Is that what happened? Not really. Probably, you know, just being big brothers and antagonizing them. You know, as a kid, probably built up the aggression to just take it out somewhere else. Oh, okay. Okay. So they didn't beat you up on the court. They just beat you up. Is that right? Pretty much. Is that pretty much? Okay. They don't beat you up anymore, do they? No. No. You're too big for that. Although, Darian, you know, I'm going to put the camera on Darian. Darian's not small now. I don't know. I think, you know, he might not be able to catch you, Cameron. But I think if he caught you, you might have trouble. Yeah, I think if it went like an extra round or two, the advantage would go to younger brother. Yeah, but Darian's not a little guy now. So, I mean, you know, I think he could still antagonize you a little bit. So, no, I liked meeting your family. And I want to talk about that last game. Because I saw the Fairfax game. I saw the Union game. And then I saw the last game. Okay. How did you start the last game? You. I'm talking to you personally. Cameron Young. At the start of the last game, I had three turnovers to start the game off. Three in a row? Three in a row. The first three times you touched the ball? Yeah. You had a turnover? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. You're trying to forget about that. I know. And you're being honest. And that's good. That's good. You know, because you know what most of them do, right, Chris? Tell Cameron what most of them do when I ask that question like that. Uh. Uh. Uh. Oh. Maybe I had a turnover. But you came out and you just nailed it. You called it exactly what it was. You had three turnovers to start the game. Were you nervous? No, I wasn't nervous. Just in a hurry to do nothing? Yeah. There you go. Yeah. You were playing too fast. Yeah. There's a rule that I have that I teach about offense that applies to any offense that any coach runs. Okay. And it doesn't matter what it is. This is one common rule. One of Coach Miller's axioms of offense. Okay. And I'm really lucky I've got some coaches here in the house. So we're going to share this rule. Here's the rule. With the ball. With the ball. We play slow. Without the ball, we play fast. My players hear it every day. Okay. And then we teach it. It's not enough just to say it, but we teach it. And so think about that. With the ball, you play slow. Without the ball, you play fast. Now, let's think about, let's, Coach Johnson, we've got Nolan Johnson here from Washington High School who did a fabulous job. Okay. Coach Johnson, slide over to this mic over here where Chris is so you can give an answer. Coach Johnson, in the last 20 years, the best shooter in the NBA, he's retired now. Who is it? He's from Riverside, I think. Bruin. That would be the Nick Killer. Yeah. Exactly. It's the Nick Killer. Okay. Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller. What made Reggie? Reggie Miller is so great as a shooter. There's a lot of guys who shoot the ball as good as Reggie Miller. What made Reggie Miller so great was he got open to shoot. Watch the film. Constant movement without the ball. You know how to use the screens. These guys wouldn't let him catch the ball. The Knicks, they put two, three guys on him, and he'd still get open. Okay. You know what he was famous for at UCLA, Cameron? He won the NIT championship. The NIT. Not the NCAA. Yeah. But anyway, they made UCLA. Still a championship. UCLA made him take the banner down out of the gym. They had it hanging in Poly Pavilion, and then a little bit later, they took it down. They said, we don't hang NIT banners in Poly Pavilion. We don't hang NIT banners. It is somewhere like in the basement somewhere or in Pete Dallas's old office or something. We kept a picture of Reggie Miller hanging in the Daily Bruin Sports office. Yeah. There you go. So great players. They play fast without the ball, but they play slow with the ball. And that's what you did wrong is you were playing fast with the ball. I was there. I watched the game. And really, I want to see you. Okay. So I was really watching you more than watching the game because I was trying to understand. I'm just still mind boggled why there's 20 Marlins and about 20 Division I players. And I'm going to be honest with you. I've been watching the programs in Southern California. No one's offered him a scholarship yet. And if you're one of those 20 coaches, our phone number is 1-800-893-9562. If you're one of those coaches, 1-800-893-9562. Call him on his cell phone. We don't want to get anybody in trouble. Okay. So anyway. They're playing a city championship tomorrow. Now, so what I want to see tomorrow is I want to see you play. Slow with the ball and fast without the ball. Okay. That's what I want to see. Now, if we can get Darian there. You'll be there, right? Yeah. You're going to be there. Do you yell? Do you scream at the games? Oh, yeah. I'm talking to him the whole game. In the front row. Talking to the mic. Hey, in the front row, too. Oh, in the front row? In the front row. I'm talking to him the whole game, front row. Okay. Just you or your brother-brother? Mainly his mom. Oh, mainly his mom? Yeah. Yeah. Mom talks to him? Most? Yeah. More than you? Yeah. Okay. Cameron, when you're playing and you have all these people yelling from the front row and then you've got Marlon, you've got Coach Azam. DeWitt. You've got DeWitt yelling, saying something, maybe not yelling. DeWitt doesn't always yell. No, he doesn't yell at all. That's what I'm saying. Cameron's not buying that story. How do you deal with all the voices? Do you just, like, go into a zone and you don't hear them? Or how do you deal with it? Well, I know that it's important to hear Coach Azam when he's talking to us. And I can hear my brother talking to me from the stands to help me get focused into the game. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So that does help you then? Yeah. It helps you to get focused. Okay, good. Good. So, Scott, you see what I'm talking about? This guy's a good guy. Yeah. Smart guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Conversationally, he's very, very together. What's your best subject? I would say English. Okay, good. What's your favorite subject? English, probably. Okay. Okay. And what's your worst subject? Science. Science. Okay. You don't like science, do you? No. Isn't it interesting, Scott, how something we don't like, we don't do well in? Yeah. Generally speaking. I was not the best science student. And you didn't like it either. Oh, I got a B when I was at City, though. Yeah. Because I knew I needed to get at least a certain level to get to UCLA. Yeah. And so it forced you to do it. Yeah. Now, Cameron, if English is your favorite subject, what's your favorite book? The Great Gatsby. Oh, wow. Nice. That's a good answer. It's a good book. Yeah. It surprised me. See, Coach Johnson, if I ask Marlon what his favorite book is, I'm afraid to ask. I'm going to. It might be, I don't know. Marlon, what's your favorite book? Autobiography of Malcolm X. I like that book, too. Okay. By Alex Haley. And Roots. By Alex Haley. I'm a big Alex Haley fan. Okay. All right. That's a pretty good answer. Yeah. Marlon recovered. I thought I was going to give him a sucker punch on that one. Marlon recovered on that. But, you know, The Great Gatsby. I don't know. I might give cameras. I don't know. I like the autobiography of Malcolm X. Alex Haley was a great writer. Very great writer. Unbelievable writer. Okay. So, tell us, before we wrap up this Westchester segment tonight, tell us what we should expect. The game is at 8 p.m. at L.A. Southwest College tomorrow. You are playing El Camino. Yes. El Camino Real from the Valley. Tell us, Marlon, what should we expect to see? You expect to see us playing hard defense. A well-coached team, El Camino, with gifted players. We respect them and they respect us. It's going to be a dogfight. It's from last year. And so, with us, it's just we have to play our game. Like I always tell us and coach and DeWitt, we always say the only ones that we worry about is us. We don't worry about nobody. Nobody else. You know, when we play our game, you know, it's hard to beat us. And would you say that you played your game against Narbonne? No. That actually might have been one of the worst games we played. Yeah. And Narbonne had something to do with that, though. How they played that night had something to do with that. Yeah, they were good. They were, I think in the beginning, we took them for granted. And then we got a lead and then we relaxed. See this. And when we, this unit, this team here is when they get leads, they're still not ready to put them down, kill them, you know, get it over with. But I expect if we get a lead tomorrow, we will do that tomorrow. Because big games, they come through the Fairfaxes. We lost the DeMatha game, but DeMatha was a really good team. Yeah. And we had that game. You know, like I always tell them, we lost, I think, five games. Yeah. Out of the five, I say we only really lost one. Four we gave away. We gave away. And I don't, and they want to win the city championship to put it, to put their class up on that wall. You know, they won, majority of this team has won a ring last year. They want to win a ring this year and put it up on the wall. So when they come back 10 years from now and they see that, that old, that 2014 group. Yeah. Then they can say I was on that group. Like the dudes who come back in the 01, 02. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I want to just talk about that last week. You said it was one of your worst games of the year. But I'm going to give some props to my guy, T. Hill, the young coach at Narbon. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Anthony. Anthony Hilliard. We call him T. Hill. I've been knowing Anthony because me and his brother were real close. I'm going to give him a shout out because, first of all, he's doing a great job. doing a phenomenal job. This is his first year at Narbonne. He won a lower-level city title at Gardena last year. And they play very controlled, and they really tried to control the game against you. Then they trapped a little bit and gave you some trouble at the end. I want to give a shout-out to the two really, really good players that they have there, Uchenna and Reverend. And those two young guys, like Cameron, great kids, really good players, and I feel Division I players, just like Cameron. And so they were good. They were good. It's not like they were bad. No, no, no, no. Because, like I said, me and Ant's brother were really, really close. Maurice, he passed. And so I had been knowing what you call him, T. Hill, for a while. T. Hill. I've been knowing him for a while. Yeah. And he's a hell of a coach. And I told him after the game, you know, I was really proud of him because I've seen him since he was in high school. So I've been knowing him all his life. And, like I say, me and his brother were like best of buddies. And when his brother died, you know, we were there. So, no, they played us like you're supposed to play us. They almost beat you. Honestly, we got lucky. Yeah, they almost stole one from you. Now, Cameron, what should we expect? Tomorrow. What should we expect tomorrow? Because, like we talked about, that wasn't Westchester's best game. I don't think it was your best game last Saturday. What should we expect tomorrow in the city championship game? I think you can expect everyone going hard since it's a big game. And we have a few returners that won a city championship last year. So we shouldn't be too nervous at the beginning or anything and be ready to win the game. Okay. All right. Okay. Let me ask you. What are you looking for for Cameron tomorrow to do on the court? Okay. Because you're going to be in the front row, Darian. You're going to be there shouting and listening, and I guess with your mom and your other brother and stuff. So tell me what you're looking for out of Cameron tomorrow. Just basically everything that he's worked on this summer, which is consistency, just coming out with aggression and energy and just remembering, like, all the things that, you know, whether we worked on in the gym or him and Coach Marlon or him and his Sam or DeWitt, just basically just play your game. Don't worry about what the defense is doing. Just play your game. Okay. Good point. I got you. Great point. Okay. Well, Marlon, we're, you know, I know I could tell you, you know, I show up at the games, I wear school colors. I go to games and I'll wear the color of the team. I'm, you know. I'll be wearing red tomorrow. So I'm openly, you know. Picking a team. Yeah. No, and not just picking a team. And the red isn't for Matter Day. The red is for Westchester. My comments. So I'm pulling for Westchester. We have this thing going on our show. Every time we have a team on the show, they win the next game. I would hate to have Westchester ruin that streak. It's almost not fair to have, you know, the team in right before the championship. It's almost not fair. But you know what? If Cameron plays. We're fine. If Cameron plays, you're fine. The thing is, you're going to have to step it up tomorrow. Okay. Remember you said early in the show that when the team needs you more, or you mentioned if it was a little bit bigger game, you would try to do more. You'd be more focused or you'd play with more energy. Well, tomorrow's the game. So you don't need to wait. Okay. And when you have the ball, you're playing slow. Okay. And when you don't have the ball, you're playing fast. Okay. Now, I'm going to have you in the front row making sure that gets done. Okay. I'll be at the media table with my media opposite side coach. Yeah. I'll give you the heads up. Okay. All right. So, hey, it's been great having you guys on the show. Thank you, Coach. We really appreciate coming back. We really enjoy this. We really, really, really do. It's great to have you on, and I'm looking forward to a big win. I think we might have to have him on a third time. I think we might have to have him on a third time. I think we might have to have him on a third time. I think we might have to have him on a third time. And tell us about their... Winning state. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I didn't want to say it because I didn't want to jinx it, but I'm glad you said it. You guys win state, you're definitely back on for a third time. One title at a time. I'm calling it right now. One title at a time. I would say one at a time. One at a time? Okay, one at a time. So, hey, before we go, before we let you guys go and go to break, we have a little parting gift for you. This is one of our sponsors. I hope this will fit you, Bigfoot. Hey, fella. I hope this will fit you. Let's see if I can get it on. Okay, this is our... Yeah, we're good. We're good. Okay, here's our wristband from our sponsor, Power Moves Only, PMO. And this one... Oh, yeah, I wear this one all the time. Do you have this one? Yeah. Okay. Chris, you need one? Yeah, I had to get mine to a different player. Okay, Coach Johnson, you get one too. Scott, you already have one? I'll take another. I got a few guests coming in. Okay. Okay. We've got... This... This is our... This is one of our main sponsors. And the affirmation on this one, Chris, is make yourself stronger than your excuses. 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Welcome back to Time Out with Coach Miller. That was a lot of fun, Scott. Yeah, that was great. I hope that was really cool of him to come in the day before a championship. Yeah, I hope that Westchester plays big tomorrow and they blow out El Camino. I want them to blow out that team from the Valley. There's only one team from the Valley. I really like. And that's North Hollywood High School. The Huskies. I'd settle for a win. The North Hollywood High School Huskies. I like them. But I want Westchester to beat the tar out of El Camino Real tomorrow at LA Southwest. Coach, welcome to the show. Well, thank you very much. Appreciate being here. And Coach, you guys are in your first year at North Hollywood. Yep. You guys got hired in September or something. I mean, crazy. It was like a late hire. A really late hire. And barely had time to orient ourselves to what was there at the school. Sure. Ran a cold tryout not knowing really anything. Kind of wanted it that way. The head coach is not here tonight, unfortunately. He's ill. No, but we've got you. We've got Phil Newman. Yeah. And Phil is the top assistant. Yep. And was sent in. And Coach is sick, right? Oh, yeah. They thought he had pneumonia. But fortunately, it's just strep. If you want to call that fortunate. But he's on some antibiotics and expect to have him back. Tell us about the head coach. 30 years experience. Nearly 30 years experience. Multiple schools around California. League titles locally. Zomar. We're talking, he goes back to the 90s. And actually, one of the legends that are the programmer right now, North Hollywood, he was one of the coaches that competed against him back in the 90s. You know, in his heyday. So he's got a lot of history. It's kind of like we find a lot of the schools in our league, the East Valley League, have coaches that have been there for a while. And Coach Fernandez joining that group again, you know, coming from this area originally. He's just part of that group. That's right. Coach Jose Fernandez. Yeah. Really good coach. Yeah. And our phone number is 1-800-893-9562. If you want to talk North Hollywood High School basketball. Coach Fernandez is not here tonight. Hopefully he's listening. And we will wish him a speedy recovery. And I saw, I went to a game. I went to their playoff game, Chris. And they were playing manual arts over at manual arts. And they won the game. And they won kind of convincingly. I mean. And it was really never in doubt, in my opinion, watching the game that North Hollywood was going to win. And would you agree with that, Coach? I came in with a definite strategy for that game. Scouted it. And I think we pushed the right buttons at the right time. Our point guard who was sitting next to me, Sean Fernandez, he was very ill at that particular game. He was running 104 degree temperature. Wow. We had him pumped up with. Some ibuprofen. And we knew we only had limited time on the floor with him. We put him in there two, three minutes at a time. And then when we saw him lagging on the court, we'd pull him off right away. But he was very effective. He did his job. And we had, in that particular game, a 28-second rule. We held the ball for 28 seconds. You probably noticed that. I did. It was a very methodical game. But it was done with intention. And the ball moved well. And then one of our guys, Alex Walker, got really hot. And he's going to be one of our future stars for sure. He's a great shooter. Great outside shooter. And we were able to. Now, I saw that. Alex Walker hit, especially late in the game, probably three big shots from that left corner. Late in that game that just kind of sealed the deal. I mean, I think they were going to win anyway. But he just kind of. Every time Manuel was trying to mount a comeback, Alex just buried him. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Alex is a junior, right? Alex is a junior. Sean here is a sophomore. So we're a fairly young team. And Coach Fernandez told me about your point guard. It says right here, our sophomore point guard is one of the best guards in the city, number 23. And he only played two minutes at a time because at Manuel due to 102-degree fever. That's pretty much accurate. Yes. But definitely the one guy on our team that everyone in our league makes special preparations for. He made second team all city in his freshman year. And I hope there'll be a spot for him in the L.A. Classic game. And so let's talk a little bit more about this special point guard, Phil. He's a sophomore. He's a sophomore. Now, before. You go ahead and tell us a little bit about him. And I'm going to ask him some questions. Yeah. Well, his game is really a penetrating game. You know, he's all about getting to the basket. He's very skilled. He's a player that plays low to the floor. He can explode from low to high. But really, his game is on the floor. And I mean on the floor. I mean, I've seen him in situations where two or three guys are on a loose ball on their stomachs. And he dribbles out of it on his stomach. Okay? This is the kind of player he is. He's just a very low dribbler. Very quick hands. Very long extension on his arms. And he can get to the basket. It tends to open up a lot of offense for a team. Okay. So, you made first team, second team or first team All-City? Second team. Last year as a freshman? Yes. Wow. Wow. That's hard to do, huh, Chris? Yes. Wow, that's hard to do. Tell us about that last year. How did you make second team All-City? Well, the team I played for. I played for the All-City. I played for the All-City. The team I always played at was Sun Valley High School. Okay. We didn't have pretty well, like, a good team that year. We had a pretty well basic time for the team. Like, we all knew each other well, knew how we played. And we all knew our strengths and weaknesses pretty well. I just, I knew that since I played these guys for four years, just travel ball with them during the high school level because I always played a level above myself, that, you know, I had to do this for the team. And that if I didn't show up, we didn't show up. And I just had to push this momentum for that team. And I guess that's how I did it. Okay. Part of it, part of it, if I may say, was his familiarity with the team. The team, he was, he's right when he says he was playing with that team for several years prior at the club level. From sixth grade on, he was playing with those same guys. And so, you know, freshmen usually suffer from that thing where they're not accepted by the older classmen. Right. They got to find their way. Yeah, they got to find it. But you got to earn it, right? Right. Yeah, so they tend to push them down. And it's just not their time. Well, in this particular case, when he came in, it was his time because they were very familiar with him. They knew what he could do, and he executed. So what, tell me about the numbers. What kind of numbers did you put up as a freshman? You said this was Sun Valley, right? Mm-hmm. What kind of numbers did you put up? I'm pretty sure I had about 16 points a game. About four, five steals. Yeah. I'm not sure about my assists. I think it was six or seven in that range. And I think he was one of our top three hunters, too. Now, that's for this year. That was last year. No, that was last year as a freshman. Yeah, as a freshman. He's a sophomore now. Okay, now, what are the numbers this year? I know I dropped. I had about 15 points. I'm pretty positive about that. No, I think it's actually something like 13-9. 13-9? Yeah. We could call that 14, right, Scott? Yeah. I'd call it 14. Yeah, I mean, we could. I'd call it 14. Yeah, I mean, 13-9, I can live with 14 with that. But go ahead, Coach. Four assists a game. And, you know, these are verified numbers. And then about seven rebounds. His rebounding went off from last year, but he's playing a higher division. Yeah. And he had, in this case, it's bigger teams, and he had to play more of the traditional role as a point guard. In the first year he played, he had to do more things than the normal point guard would have to do on that team. Is he still pulling off the four or five steals also? Oh, yeah, for sure. Now, Coach, did you see him play as a freshman then at Sun Valley? I was there coaching him. I was one of the coaches, yeah. Okay, so you were at Sun Valley then. Yeah. Okay, and now, and then you came over. Tell us how you got hired by Coach Fernandez at North Hollywood. I've known Coach Fernandez since old club days. I've known Sean here since he's about nine years old. Okay. Actually, my daughter has trained with Sean. She's a freshman starter at Chaminade. Okay. And that's a team that played the open division this year and has done very well. Lost to Long Beach Poly just recently. And, yeah, so I've known Sean for quite a few years. He's trained with my older daughter, too, who's a player at Cal State Northridge. Okay. So, you know, Coach Fernandez has trained Sean, and he's trained my kids to some margin of success. Yeah, to a large margin of success. So your daughter's on the team at Cal State Northridge? Yes. Okay. Yes. How did her season go? Well, she's a redshirt transfer from up north, Sonoma State, and so she's played on the scout team this year, but she is on the team officially. And that team just won the Big West Conference just last night. Oh, congratulations. Yeah. Good for them. Congratulations. Go Matadors. Yeah. Yeah. Do you do any women's basketball here? We do. We do. You need to call the coach over there and get an interview. That sounds good. We do a lot of women's basketball here, don't we, Scott? Yep. We do. Always good to make sure we don't have the high school players. Yeah. Right. For sure. Always kind of tricky with the D1s. Yeah. Yeah. So, but back to Coach Fernandez. So, Sean, how long have you known Coach Fernandez? About two years. Okay. I played over at Sun Valley, and my mom, she moved to North Hollywood on Oxnard Street, and I didn't expect to know that Coach Fernandez was... The coach there? Yeah. So, like, you walk in, and you're like, wow. Hey, coach. I went to tryouts, and I just see Coach Fernandez, and I'm like, what? Yeah. That's a nice feeling, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, you move. Your mom moves. It's not something you probably really wanted to do, and you got to go to a new school, and it's your sophomore year. You walk in, and you see a good coach. Yeah. That's a nice thing. Okay. Now, you're the starting point guard. Now, Coach mentioned Alex. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, he's a junior, so he's one year ahead of you. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Right, Sean? Yes. Okay. Tell us a little bit about Alex and what it's like playing with him. As Coach Phil said, he's a great player. Knock down shots. Every time we need him, he can get that shot off. We create plays for him sometimes just to get that corner shot, as you saw at the game, manual arts. He's like a force for me, because when I drive down, he always there. Like, if the guy comes in to crash in. To guard me, I can kick it back out to him in the corner, and he always gets that shot. Okay. Gotcha. Okay. Well, I like what I'm hearing, Scott, because I like point guards that think the game. Yeah. I like point guards that are cerebral and that understand structures. Yeah. And like Coach said, like what Phil said, is they had a plan for the game of manual arts. I'm going to ask him to elaborate a little bit more about that plan. After we come back from break, because I was impressed with what I saw. Jeremy, let's take a quick commercial break, and we'll come back with some more North Hollywood high school Husky basketball. Hey, it's Coach Miller. You're listening to my show, Time Out with Coach Miller. I want to talk to you today about my favorite car dealership located in beautiful Hollywood, California. It's called Gem Motors. Gem Motors is located at 5639 West Sunset Boulevard. If you want a high-end automobile. If you want a high-end automobile that's at a great price, whether it's a BMW, a Mercedes, a Jaguar, or a Porsche, go to my friends at Gem Motors. They have a beautiful indoor dealership located at 5639 West Sunset Boulevard, right across from Home Depot. Go see my friends at Gem Motors. Tell them Coach Miller sent you and get a special discount. The phone number is area code 323-962-9696. 323-962-9696. 323-962-9696. State champs, high school and JC. He was the first coach to do it in California history. Coach Miller, he can beat any team. Got shooters on the court and dunkers dunk everything. He got to win. So the plan is defeat. Been coaching on the court before he turned 18. From 08 going down to 93. He's a champion. He was the conference champs, home of the LACC. Youngest coach to beat 500 teams, 43. Everybody came doing like he. A coach is something he was destined to be. Now we got a radio show to discuss some things. Talking informative conversations. Listen to the real. Tuesday and Friday at night from 10 to 12. A live show. Tune in and listen well. Special guests that take audience calls as well. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. For sure. Well, you know what? You're going to hit up little Tony's and you're going to walk in with that and show them that. And you can put a little link to this show on there and say, sounds good. Say, hey, we're getting you free air time and you need to take an ad. Okay. Okay. You can put in the ad. Best pizza in Los Angeles. I like that. Coach Miller. I like that. Yeah, that's right. That's right. You could. That's Scott. That's it. That's a great idea. You put your name on it. Yeah, I did. And I'm, and I'm not backing down. No, you're not. Best pizza. in Los Angeles. It's in North Hollywood, California, the home of the Huskies and North Hollywood High School. It is Little Tony's. But you're wrong. It is Vito's Pizza. Started across the street from L.A. City College, moved to West Hollywood on La Cienega. Vito's. I put my name on Vito's. We'll just have a pizza eat-off. That's West Hollywood, not North. First of all, I want to say, this is time out with Coach Miller. This is not storytelling with Scott Schultz. I ate a lot of Vito's Pizza in L.A. City College gym. When I go to watch Scott perform, and if you didn't know, Sean, he's a professional storyteller, and when I go to watch Scott perform, I don't try to say, this is the best beer in the bar. I don't know about that. The best pizza is in North Hollywood. Okay, rest my case. The second reason why I go to North Hollywood is to see some good plays. There's some great plays in North Hollywood. Now I've got a third reason because I really like how North Hollywood plays basketball. There's not a lot of high school teams I enjoy watching. For that matter, I don't always enjoy watching my team play basketball. In fact, most of the time, I don't enjoy watching my team play basketball. But we we! I liked watching North Hollywood play. I want to talk to Coach Phil a little bit more about it. You guys had a plan for manual arts. You mentioned that you were going to hold the ball for the first 28 seconds. Tell us a little bit more about that. Yeah, we were very disciplined. We executed exactly as we had planned all week long. The idea behind that was, you know, with Alex Walker, we found that if he could not rush his shot, that he would be far more accurate. And you were a witness to that. Yes. And so it was just a matter of giving him a couple extra seconds to set his feet. And man, the guy's a knockdown shooter. Yeah. He's like that. I wish we had Alex on the show tonight, and I'm going to tell you why. I've mentioned this to Coach Fernandez, and I want to say that, well, we'll get to this part about Sean in a minute. But my show is sponsoring this huge event, and it's April 5th. It's at East L.A. College. My show rented this big gym and college gym. And it's not just a game. It's a game. It's an event. And it's called the Los Angeles Classic. And it's going to be a brunch and an awards banquet, followed by three games, followed by game one is the Valley versus the South region or South Bay. And game two is the East side versus the West side. And then game three, and we're working with the L.A. City section committee. And then we have some states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states states we want to have a special event, which is the Top 24 Underclassmen game. Hey, Coach, I'd like to nominate a player for that. Okay, well, you can. I'm not going to mention any names, but, you know, if I have a vote in it, you know, I'd like to nominate somebody. Well, you wouldn't be the first one to nominate, Sean. Coach Fernandez has already nominated him. There you go. But I told Coach Fernandez, Phil, I said, you know, I want to make sure Alex Walker is in the Top 24 Underclassmen game. Now, that's a big deal because it's the Top 24 Underclassmen in all of Los Angeles. So that's a big deal. And it's like, you know. From open down, you mean, huh? Yeah. Wow. In all of Los Angeles. That's a big deal. Top 24. And so I told Coach Fernandez that I want to make sure we get Alex. Alex is in that game. And so I wish you had been able to get him in studio tonight because I wanted to give him his invitation personally. Yeah. But I guess it'll have to wait. And then Chris over here, my favorite former starting power forward, he averaged a double-double for me. The last game he played, Sean, for me, first of all, it was. Almost 25 years ago. But. Next year. Next year will be 25 years. But the last game he played for me, we won the state championship in the Oakland Coliseum. And right after us, Jason Kidd and his team beat Fremont from the east side of Los Angeles in the next state championship game. Back then, there were fewer levels of state championships. 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And he's the second person to nominate you. Sean, what do you think? A great honor. Yeah. After you say all that. Yeah. Coach Fernandez nominated you first. I have it in my text messages. And then Chris is nominating you. But we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We're close. The game is April 5th. It's a month away. We're close. And we've got to get our committee meets coming up this week. We have a really good committee. I want to give them a special shout out. Steve Ackerman from University High School is on our committee. Sam Sullivan, an old friend of mine who's been on the show with his team from Fremont High School, is on our committee. And among others. I'm not going to name them all. But, you know, we've got some really good people on our committee. And so we'll discuss it. And I'll make sure that your name gets brought. And I'll make sure that your name gets brought to the committee. And then we'll see where we go with that. But, okay. Sean, you're the point guard, right? Yes, sir. Okay. So you're supposed to run the team. You're supposed to have leadership on the floor. Tell us about this guy over here. Be a leader. Introduce him. Aaron Fitcher. More of a six man. He's kind of like my prospect to me. I help him out a lot. He comes in. He comes to me for a lot of help. He says, oh, I need help with this. Okay, I'll teach you. I'll help you out. I want to help with the warmups. You know, yeah, he's a great player. Great handles. Really fast. He has a great shot, too. Now, do you think he's going to start next year? I believe he will start as my shooting guard. Okay. So is that something that you're motivating him to? I'm going to have to ask Coach Newman to this in a minute after I ask you. Okay. Are you? Motivating him to be a starter? Are you like telling him, hey, you need to be a starter, Aaron, and you need to do this and that to do that? Are you doing that? Yes, sir. I'm motivating him to work hard and get better over the summer. Okay. Phil, what do you think? I think Aaron is right there on the edge of the cliff where he can definitely start flying with it when he's ready. It's just a matter of him choosing to make the right choices, and skills are there. I think the skills are there. I think we're going to hone him here starting Monday. Okay. Some afternoon classes. Okay. And we're going to move forward from there. But, yes, definitely he's right there at the door. Okay. Aaron, tell me what you like most about being in the program at North Hollywood High School. Honestly, I think what I like most about being at North Hollywood High, the program that we have is we really did this year start from ground zero. And the fact that Coach Fernandez could build us up so much with the help of Coach Phil and Coach Blyfer, the fact that we can take a team, just a blue-collar team, and turn it into a good winning program, a program that we were an underdog and we became an overdog and we can continue to do this. And Coach Fernandez's motto is that he never quits. Yeah. And we never quit no matter if we lost a game. Even when we won a game, there was never a doubt that we can't win the next game. Right. And there's not a doubt that we'll win next year. Right. I believe that. And especially with the good young talent that you guys have. Now, Aaron, what grade are you right now? I am in 11th grade. Okay. So you'll be a senior next year. Yes, sir. So you'll be one of the, I guess, the older guys on the team. Yes, sir. Okay. Gotcha. I like that. I like that. Yeah. This year, that's kind of what our team was, with the exception of maybe Alex Walker and Sean and Aaron here. One other guy I'm thinking of in the back of my mind. We were all seniors. We were seniors. And seniors who did not really play varsity. Okay. So this was a whole new genre of basketball for these guys. The speed of the game was entirely different. They weren't used to it. They were successful as JVers, as 11th graders, but they had never seen the varsity floor with the exception of, I think, Chet Edelman, who was probably one of our stars who couldn't make it tonight. But we were able to hammer these guys together for this one year that they had. But we're going to lose all those guys. We're going to lose all those guys. But we're keeping, like I said, Alex Walker. We're keeping Aaron here. We're keeping Sean and a couple other guys here. But that's a great building place, Chris. That's a good core. I mean, you know, you're talking about – I'm telling you guys, I saw Alex play. I mean, if there's a better shooter in the city, I haven't seen him. Okay. Now, and he's got some size. What is he, about 6'4"? 6'3", I'd say. Yeah, 6'3". I mean, he's got some size, and he's just really a smooth-looking shot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't seen Sean play at his strength because he was sick, so I didn't get to experience that. But maybe we'll see him in the top 24 game. But you know what? It's a great core to build with. I mean, Aaron sounds like a pretty good player as well. And so if you're going to build something, you may as well build it with three, four guys that have a lot of talent. Yeah. It's like they've got a good nucleus coming back next year with a point guard that played this year. Yeah. And then they're going to have a good year with two more years left. So it's like three years with them. And you know, like he said, he's teaching this kid over here. He's teaching Aaron. Right. And... Aaron Fincher. And the weird part about that is something you said earlier about freshmen coming in on your team. Yeah. Aaron's actually older than him. But he's, you know, you can still, you can learn anything from anybody. So... Yeah. I caught that too, Chris. You don't get much past Chris. But, you know, I caught that too. And I'm glad Chris articulated it. I mean, that's great. And it's good that Aaron is receptive, Phil, to... A peer. To a peer who might be a year behind him in school, but who's a leader on a court, on the court. Because you have to be receptive to your point guard. Speaking of being receptive, I want to take a quick commercial break because I have someone in the sound booth telling me that in my ear. And we'll be right back. Hey, it's Coach. Coach Miller. You're listening to my show, Time Out with Coach Miller. I want to talk to you today about my favorite car dealership located in beautiful Hollywood, California. It's called Gem Motors. Gem Motors is located at 5639 West Sunset Boulevard. If you want a high-end automobile that's at a great price, whether it's a BMW, a Mercedes, a Jaguar, or a Porsche, go to my friends at Gem Motors. They have a beautiful industry. 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Special guests that take out of his cause as well. Losing height. Hey, we're back. We're live. We're on the air. And welcome. Welcome back. And I have Coach Blyfer over here to my left. Let me get a little TV time here for Coach Blyfer. There we go. Appreciate it. Okay. And Sean, tell me about Coach Blyfer. Coach Blyfer is one of those great, motivating coaches that he's in the background. Then when you have him speak, he just gets you pumped up and ready for that game. That's all I got to say about Coach Blyfer. Nice. Nice. I like that. Coach Blyfer, you're new then also at North Hollywood. Yeah. This is my first time. First year at North Hollywood High. Where were you before? I did a year at Milken. Okay. Coach Whiting. Okay. Yeah. I know Coach Mike Whiting. Yeah, he's a good guy. I coached against him many years ago, 25 plus years ago. He's still there. He's still there. He's still doing it, huh? Still doing it. Hey, Chris, do you remember the coach from Bel Air Prep when we were at Rip Bay? It was kind of a heavyset guy. Yeah, he's a big guy. I remember- Blonde haired guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really loud. Right, right, right. Really loud. Louder than you. No, yeah. No, way louder than me. No. Do you remember? I do remember him. I don't remember his name, but I do remember him. His name was Mike Whiting. Okay. And he's still coaching high school ball. And I saw him coach like two years ago. Milken, right? Milken, yeah. Yeah, out in the valley. Okay. Yeah. I saw him coach about two years ago, and I remember I was like, all I heard him screaming from the sidelines. I walk in the gym, and I go, oh, that's got to be Mike Whiting. Am I exaggerating? Not at all. Okay. Who was louder? Him or the guy from Needles when we played in Mesquite? I don't remember that guy. You should. That's the one that got into your face afterwards. I don't remember that guy. I remember him very well. I bet you do. I bet you do. Hey, Chris, we were 58-5 in the two years you played for me. And we won two CIF championships and a state championship. Right. And we lost the game to Needles. Yeah. And so that's not a game I want to remember. That was one of five losses. That was one of five losses. Well, that was a game. That was the game that Jaquin. Yeah. I don't want to remember any of this. It's 58-5. Sean, he's got to dwell on one of the five. What's up with that? Can we be? We were 58-5, and he just wants to dwell on that one of the five. I mean, it was a big brawl after the game. You don't remember that? It was a big brawl after the fight. That's why. Actually, there was. But, yeah, that's why I remember the game so well is because there was a fight during the game. Who won the fight? Yeah, we're not going to talk about that. I don't know if the statute of limitations are up yet. I think the statute has passed. It hasn't? Okay. Well, yeah, it started because their coach got into your face, and it escalated from there. Yeah. I think our guys won the fight. Yeah. I think we did. No, I know we did. Yeah. I think our guys won the fight, although we were a little outnumbered. Nice. How many did you take out, Chris? Took out two. And if Chris's mom was there, she took out about a four. Okay. She was tough. She was tough. So, anyway, we're back. I'm really happy to have North Hollywood High School here. You know, I remember, Coach, the best player I've ever seen at North Hollywood High School was Dana Jones. I played against him. I remember him. He was about 6'7", maybe 6'8". Kind of long. He was a small forward. Real long arms. Long arms. Tremendous hops. Went to North Hollywood High School. He went to Pepperdine. Okay. And is there a second leading scorer in school history? Yeah, right. He was four-time All-WCC player at Pepperdine. That means that his freshman, sophomore, talk about consistency, junior and senior year, he was All-WCC pick at Pepperdine. He played for a good friend of mine, Jim Herrick. And, Coach Herrick, if you're listening, you're the best. And so... And he went on and played overseas. Dana Jones played at North Hollywood High School. Is his number retired or hanging from your... About what year would you say he played? He graduated in... I think he graduated in my year, 91. Oh, then under Steve Miller. Yeah. There's a banner with his name on it for sure. Yeah. But see, what I'm big on is this. No, see, I don't think he played in 91. He was in college, Chris. Was he? Yeah, he was. Okay, he graduated in 90 then. He graduated the year before. 89 or 90. Yeah. Well, let's see. He was born in 72. So, what year... He would have graduated in 90. Okay, so... He graduated the year before me because my junior year, you got me into Slammin' Jam. I do remember now. He is a year older than me. Okay. He... I played against him in Slammin' Jam that year at North Hollywood. Now, you said he's the second leading scorer in the history of Pepperdine? Yeah. And he's inducted into the Pepperdine Hall of Fame, I know. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. What I'm big on is... I'm big on program building coaching. And I know that Coach Fernandez is, too. And I think a guy like that needs to have not just a name on a banner, but a retired jersey hanging in the gym. Because that's how you motivate, I think, people like Sean, is that, you know, you say, hey, look, this is what happens to people that are the all-time greats. And I think that that's something that I'd like you to share with Coach Fernandez. And Steve Miller's still around, so you can... We are. Yeah, he is. Yeah, you could get... I saw him at your game, matter of fact. Yeah, he's always there. Yeah, so, you know, I'm sure you could get information from Steve and make a real nice night. Tell us a little bit more about... You guys took over. We don't have a lot of time, but I want to get into this. And you kind of did some outreach into the community. Yeah, the first thing we did is we went into the school archives and we researched all the former teams from North Hollywood and created a poster that we spread throughout the city to get the... Pretty much to send our calling. We sent a greeting card out that we're here and we want you to follow us. And so we sent our boys out in uniform throughout the city as well to get some sponsorships and it worked out very well. Nice. Nice. So we had the funding to play those December tournaments. And that's our gauntlet, of course. We play above our division and we put ourselves through some tough games. And we've done that in the past as well. And it's been a pretty successful formula. Like at Sun Valley, we went on a nine-game winning streak after we did that. But North Hollywood here, we came out of that stretch and played very well against some of our higher-end competitors, such as Verdugo Hills and Grant. Can I jump in real quick? This is, again, the first year that we came together and we did some landmark wins at North Hollywood. Let's hear about them. One was beating Grant High School. They haven't done that in like six years. Right. So in a first-year program to go out and beat Grant High School was a big deal. That's a huge deal. Huge deal. Major brownie points. And then we turned around and won a playoff game, which hasn't happened in North Hollywood. In the last four years. Right. And I was at that game. I saw that game. And funny, we played your kind of game. It was, I believe your motto was, again, with the ball. Well, you want to play slow with the ball and you want to play fast without the ball. And that was our game. That was it. That was totally our game. Our defense was fast in that second quarter and we shut Manual Arts down to five points. Yeah. No, they hammered them, Chris. Now, we've had Manual Arts in, in studio, the whole team. And then they went out, of course, the next day. It's night and one. They upset somebody. Because we have this streak going here. It's like, we're like 14-0. Any team on our show, D1, D2, high school, they come in junior college and they win their next game. Well, did you know also that game, Manual Arts failed to introduce our players? They had the introduction for their players and they totally dissed our team. Oh, that's classic. I think it fired them up a little bit. Yeah. The karma came back to bite them. I've never seen that done before. I like it. Hey, let's introduce our team. And play ball. And play. You know, it's a family show, so I have to be careful how I say it, Scott. But it reminds me of a little saying. Coach Miller has lots of little sayings he collects and likes. And it goes like this. Is this going to get on a bracelet? You know what? It might. It goes, hooray for me and fill in the blank, you. That sounds more like a t-shirt. That's sort of like what I'm getting from that. By the way, this is one of our sponsors, Power Moves. Only PMO. And we've got a special gift for you. And I think that you'll appreciate that one a lot, Coach, that affirmation. Scott, I've got one for you. Nice. And if you'll hand one down to Aaron Fincher. There you go. And I've got one for Sean. And I've got one for Coach Phil. And these, I always wear mine. Chris always wears his. We don't take them off. And Power Moves only. And this affirmation, they have different affirmations on them. This one in particular says, make yourself stronger than your excuses. And I think it's really powerful. It's a powerful affirmation. What I do, and what I do with my team, everyone on our team wears them. And if it's something that you guys want to get for all your team members, I'll see if I can do something for you. But when I'm going to make an excuse or I feel myself about to make an excuse, that's when I give myself the snap. Okay? And I've got, and sometimes I'll go into a timeout. I'll go. I'll go into the huddle. And I'll look at the players. And I'll say, you know, Roland, we need to rebound. You know, Robert, we need to screen out. And it starts off with, right away it starts off with, well, Coach, he grabbed mine. And before he can finish, I just, I hold up my bracelet, Sean. I don't even talk to them. I just hold up my bracelet. And then I snap. And then what I do is I tend to reach over and I ask, because they can't wear the bracelets during the game. And I ask them, I point. They can snap me. So we've got to make ourselves stronger in our excuses. I think that's an important cornerstone in life. And I think I'm thankful that Power Moves Only has given these gifts for you guys. And so hopefully this will mean something to you. And you can wear it with pride and make yourself a stronger man. Chris, we're going to have to wrap this thing up. Great show, though. Yeah. Who did you see on Tuesday night? Can you give it to me in 30 seconds? Yeah. I saw Chino. Chino Hills and Redondo Union. Chino Hills pulled the game out late in the second half. So they're playing Matter Day tomorrow in Honda Center down in Anaheim for the Open Division Championship. Go Chino Hills! Yeah, I think I'm rooting for Chino Hills tomorrow. How does Matter Day players do at D1 level? Horrible. That's what I've heard. Yeah. And we got Westchester tomorrow night. And they always transfer. You know who I heard plays well at the D1 level? Who? North Hollywood players. There you go. Second all-time leading scorer. Pepperdine. Yeah, that one Dana Jones. You see Scott is a professional storyteller. He's very good. When I landed in Los Angeles 20 million plus years ago, I landed in North Hollywood. That was my first home. Nice. Yeah. That was my first hood. You know where Little Tony's is? No. You're going to have to find out. I do. I remember Studio Cafe. I used to date a girl that went to North Hollywood High School. That whole little no-holds script. Okay. A lot of good news about North Hollywood. Yeah. And North Hollywood. Go to North Hollywood. I like North Hollywood. That's a fun place to be. I'll tell you what. We're going to be in a North Hollywood High game next year. We're going to definitely go to a game. Definitely. And afterwards, we go to Little Tony's, especially if the Huskies win. Now, Chris, you had a 30-second wrap-up on Redondo losing to Chino. Chino goes Tuesday. And like I said, they play Matter Day tomorrow night in the championship game of the Open Division at the Hunter Center in Anaheim. Okay. Okay. So, if you can't make it out, that game will be on. It's on Fox Prime Ticket tomorrow at 8 o'clock. We also have Westchester, who was just in here, playing El Camino Real tomorrow night. At 8 o'clock? 8 o'clock, LA Southwest College. And if you can't make it out there, it'll be on Time Warner Cable Sports tomorrow night. Okay. Well, go Comets. And what I want to say is I will be there sitting with the media and enjoying myself and rooting for Westchester. I'm going to wear something red. And I saw Sylmar tonight. I beat the char out of Garfield. I guess we're going to go congratulations to Sylmar. They're from the Valley. You know, I'm going to have to make North Hollywood my team from the Valley. But I'll give Sylmar, you know, the credit that they deserve. And they did blow them out. And any time you win a game like that by over 30 points, you've got to give credit where credit is due. So, anyway, Jeremy, thanks for running that soundboard tonight and running a great show. Scott, thanks for your excellent work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Aaron, we had fun having you in. I hope we'll see you doing big things next year. And Jeremy, we can close out with Little Kevin's rap song, the theme song from Time Out with Coach Miller. Thanks. 16 made a dream with this basketball. Coach Miller won the court and we going hard. Pass the rock to the paint. I give it my all to be like Chris Paul. Shoot the three points, y'all. Look, it's Time Out with Coach Miller. 14 straight conference championships. We winners. It don't stop from the bottom to the ceiling. Because all I know is win and we winning. Full focus. We got a topic to discuss. High school, prep school, small colleges. Yup. Another special guest today. Listen up. It might get a little hectic from the stuff we discuss. We'll be right back. Welcome to the 500 Club. We the best. My whole team tough. Close to 100 division ones I built up. Dedication and hard work. Step up to the court. 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Another special guest today, listen up. It might get a little hectic from the stuff we discuss. State champs, high school and JC. He was the first coach to do it in California history. Coach Miller, he can beat any team. Got shooters. On the court. And dunkers dunk everything. He got to win. So the plan is defeat. Been coaching on the court before he turned 18. From 08, going down to 93. He was the conference champs, home of the LACC. Youngest coach to beat 500 teams. 43, everybody came through it like he. A coach is something he was destined to be. Now we got a radio show to discuss some things. Talking informative conversations. Listen to the Real. Tuesday and Friday at 9 from 10 to 12. A live show, tune in and listen well. Special guests that take ideas course as well.