Hi, this is Jell-O Biafra. What should you rather have? A pint of booze if you're a recovering alcoholic or a pint of cacophony no matter what or who you are? Speak into the mic, bitch. Say that into the microphone. Keep on rockin' in the free world, and I mean rock, not hop on. Not indie poo. Not middle-of-the-road, Miley Cyrus-y dreck. You're a freak with a microphone. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, my, my. Welcome to another episode of A Pint of Cacophony. We're sitting here at Skid Row Studios. Today is episode 50, I believe, and it's also our last episode here at Skid Row Studios. Yeah. It's very bittersweet. Sadly. Everybody's over here fucking crying. Earlier, me and Alex were on the street having some tacos and, like, reminiscing. We're gonna miss the corner here. Yeah, man, 7-Eleven. But we're actually moving down to Haven Recording. It's down the street, and that's gonna start next week. We're also launching a website, A Pint of Cacophony.net, and you'll be able to find every episode from way back when to, you know, the future on A Pint of Cacophony.net. It's gonna be good stuff, and we're still gonna be posting videos on YouTube on A Pint of Cacophony, and it's gonna be great. But I believe we have a phone call? Yeah, we have a phone call, Dan. What's up? Hello? Hello? Hello? Hey, what... How are you? Who is this? Hello, it's Trevor, man. Trevor? Trevor, yeah, you know me. I'm your number one fan. Oh, hey, Trevor. Oh, number one fan. Trevor. Trevor. Well, I can't say that I recall, but it's a pleasure to meet you. I think it's fat and robust, and it's really portly. What? Thanks. Thank you. You know, you're so ill. I mean, really sick, man. It makes me want to... You know, you're so ill. I mean, really sick, man. It makes me want to... I want to hurl my kidney beans, mate. Oh, thank you. Yeah, thanks. I'm glad you like the show. Your show is the shit. Sometimes I want to curl up on the satine, the fecal position, and have a good wank, imagining you two going to the loo. Oh, wait. Oh, it's this kind of love. Well, I'm flattered. I'm flattered. What do you want? Would you like to send you pictures or something like that? That's what you want. Yes. I want to imagine you going to the loo. You know, you and your mate Alex are really gay. What I mean by that is bright and funny, not queer and buggering one another. I see. You make me gay for you. Thank you. Well, thank you. Appreciate that. If you look at me trousers, mate, I got a full English breakfast for the both of you. What does an English breakfast consist of? I got to know. Excuse me. I said, what does an English breakfast consist of? You sausages and bits, you know, blood pudding. Blood pudding. That sounds tasty. Look, I really want to congratulate the two of you on your show, mate. It's just been... I'm so proud of the two of you. And you know, where you're moving, I'm right down the road from you. You two can come over and we can run. So then our knickers, it's getting me nuggets all wobbly-jobbly just thinking about it. You know what? We're going to take you up on that. We'll take you up on that. We appreciate you calling. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for calling. Thanks, Trevor. Oh, you're so welcome. You know, just for the last note, mate, my bird was talking bullocks about your show a fortnight ago, so I gave her a proper flogging. She's all about the head and shoulders with me big truncheon. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay, thank you. Thank you so much. It seems like we got another treat, a congratulatory gift, I guess, for our move coming up here at Haven Recording. What is this? We have a very special guest to the show. Ladies and gentlemen, in honor of the departure of a pinecacophony from Skid Row Studios and arrival at Haven Recording next week, we have a tribute to the boys from dear friends of the show, Mr. Dean Martin. Oh, yeah. Frank Sinatra and the one and only Reese Lightning. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. My bags are packed. My bags are packed. I'm ready to go. I'm standing here outside your door. I hate to wake you up and say goodbye. But the dawn is breaking. It's early morn. The taxi's waiting. His boat is horned. Ready, I'm so lonesome. I could die. Just kiss me and smile for me. Tell me that you'll wait for me. Hold me like you'll never let me go. Just let me be your cause I'm leaving on a jet plane. Don't know if I'll be back again. Oh, babe, I hate to let you go. Oh, goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye, Skid Row. Goodbye. I think you Skid Row. Skid Row. Let me see you wrecking your ID. What's your strain, honey? Dude, what do you got on your top shelf? Better no biscuit Chinese eyes, man. Number 10. Jessica Von Rabbit, psychic spice. Christ, did a cow shit in here? Number 9. The Blind Pets, TV baby. Won't you put me on? Won't you put me on? Won't you? You stupid, ignorant son of a bitch, dumb bastard. Number 8. LaSara, please be my third eye. Won't you please be my third eye? Please be my third eye. Okay, this song is going to end unless you turn off those goddamn lights. Number 10. Number 7. Cow medicine. Hey, does this suit make me look fat? No, no, no. Your face does. Number 6. Gal Pals, ex-marionette. That's all I've got to say. Well, we got my bag. Hey. Yeah. I love my house when you follow my path. Hijo de la chinga. Is that a joint, man? A pint of cacophony presents The Business Line. Today on The Business Line, I'd like to spotlight one of my old audio mentors, Milan Jovovich owns California Sound, and he's an old family friend. He's actually my brother's godfather, and I've known him for a very, very long time. At a very early age, he helped me explore my interests in audio and tink around in his garage a lot with a lot of the gear, and I definitely learned a lot and wouldn't be where I am at without this man. So I'd like to share some of his wisdom with you guys regarding his business and audio in general. My name is Milan. I own California Sound and Entertainment. It's an LLC company here in Southern California. I grew up with my father playing records all the time. There would be a lot of music in my house. There was a unit, like a console, that sat in the living room. It had a reel-to-reel tape deck, a radio, and a record player. It was quite expensive for its time, so my brothers and I would get on a microphone and start reel-to-reel tape and make up a radio show. And it was hysterical, you know, for a 10-year-old to do this. And... And what happened was that it developed a theater of the mind. I know that's what radio is called, but it really is. You can be whoever you want on radio, on a voiceover, just entertaining people. They don't even have to see you. One of my heroes, I never met him, was Dick Orkin in Orkin's Radio Ranch. He did radio commercials that were just outstanding. Welcome to Cal's TikTok City. Thanks. Where the big hand is on dependability and the little hand is on the floor. Snaps right back on. And the creativity part really comes out. Then you start writing your own material, promos, PSAs, commercials, whatever, and your mind just goes into this imaginary world of creativity. And it's a wonderful thing when it all comes together, and you play it for somebody, and it's exciting. Like in radio, the idea, as you know, is to break motor response. You can't come out and say the same thing a thousand times, new and approved. Nobody's going to listen. So this is a much easier way to do it. And when you break motor response, people stop in their tracks, and you got them. The company history is fascinating because, as you know, Dan, I have an electronics background. I've studied electronics. And from there, I worked into the space shuttle program, and I found it so boring that I got out of aerospace almost immediately. After six or eight months. I pursued a dream while I was a bachelor. I figured I better do it now. And I became a disc jockey. I actually went to school in Los Angeles in Hollywood, did voiceovers. Kiss FM was very nice to provide me with that background. Immediately got a job, luckily, in the Inland Empire for about 10 years. And that would be early 70s until the early 80s. And I call that my BC period, before children. And when the kids come and everything happens, I mean, you got to be a little bit more responsible. I mean, you got to be a little bit more responsible. than a disc jockey because we'd get fired all the time for nothing. And so that's when I honed my services at the same time as a sound engineer. So as a forced-lawn sound engineer, I was able to do some of the celebrity events. It may sound morbid, but the reality is celebrities do die. And I was able to produce and engineer sound for these celebrities. Some big event like Sam Kennison. Or the Sam Kennison's funeral. Or Sammy Davis Jr.'s funeral. Or the founders of Motown. Gene Roddenberry, the founder of Star Trek. When these guys pass away, it's a big, big production. And rubbing shoulders with big guys. I mean, going back a while, Liza Minnelli's father, Vincent, was a wonderful director in Hollywood in the early days. So I did his funeral. The guest speakers and I sat in a room and talked. We're talking about Jimmy Stewart, Gregory Peck, and others like that that are just wonderful people to get to know. So it's a wide spectrum of sound that I have a background in. And I like to think of California sound as the difference between information and knowledge. Information you can get anywhere on the Internet, your local MI store, your buddy. You always ask for your buddy's, you know, what's your opinion on this microphone. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. It's not just the magic black box full of digital equipment. Knowledge is what's going on in here. And I can tell you the difference. What we provide is what I've called full event productions. That includes sound, lighting, staging, electric, even into chairs, tables, tents, et cetera. Whatever it takes to make a live production complete. We serve Southern California mostly. I would say the San Gabriel Valley. the Los Angeles area. We've touched into San Diego and Reno, Nevada. I've done some very nice live events in my life I'm very proud of, like the coronation ceremony for the Tournament of Roses. We produced the complete event. And up at Lake Arrowhead, I designed the stage lighting, soundproofing, and 52 concerts of sound every summer. So there's a lot of big things like that. The California Sound mission statement is to exceed our clients' expectations. I know that sounds pretty corny by today's standards, but the reality is as things change more and more, technology increases, communication increases. You're on a podcast. Two years ago, that wasn't even heard of. The reality is I'm still eye-to-eye with my contact. He or she needs to know that everything's going to be okay because we're there. Our mission statement is to give them as much peace of mind, as many options as possible, and say, you have option A. B, C, or D. Maybe A is more expensive, but that's still your first best option. Now you get to choose. And the event, whatever kind of event it is, from a simple summer concert series in a city to more of a theatrical production that you only get four runs, you have to realize, we have to realize, and we do with all this experience through nearing four decades now, that we have to anticipate the unexpected. I'm not saying we're perfect, and we're not perfect all the time, but if we're bad 95%, that's better than the next guy who forgot to bring a backup amplifier and blew the whole show. So that's what we do. But live sound, it just gets your adrenaline rolling because you never know. CaliforniaSound at gmail.com. That's one word, CaliforniaSound, all spelled out, at gmail.com. But email me. I read all my emails, and I can always give you a call, and I'll be back. I'll see where it goes from here. Cool. I think we're good. Void were prohibited, not available in Alaska, Hawaii. Your mileage may vary. When the car salesperson first comes up, you say what? I'm just looking. 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We're sitting here with Victor and Alfonso from Wax Children. How you guys doing? Good. Good. Yeah. What's going on? They were not expecting that, man. No, I don't think so. So you guys were formed in 2012. Let's see. Wax Children released three self-recorded albums. Dream Sick, self-released in June 2012. Safe Hands on Lollipop in 2013 and Anx on Lollipop in 2014. That's a lot of work you guys have been putting in the last couple of years. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty good. Yeah, a lot of work. Right, right. You guys just played on the 17th, right? With Gods and the Parlamob? Yes. At the Echo? How'd that go down? It was good. It was cool. How was the crowd on the Tuesday night? It was a good crowd. Yeah, it was a good crowd. The other two bands were from the East Coast, they said. They were from New Jersey. Yeah. So it was kind of interesting to see how the crowd would turn out. How was it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Pretty good. Yeah. It's weird. There's a lot of gigs these days coming up on the weekday nights all over the place. What's your favorite night to play? I think it's Friday night. Weekends, of course. Yeah, Friday, Saturday. Friday, Saturday. Thursdays seem to be pretty strong in certain places. It seems like college night, the weekend starts early. I would say definitely the shows that, I don't know, between Wednesday or Sunday would be pretty good. Shows happening on Monday and Tuesday. It's kind of iffy sometimes. Yeah Right on I was looking on your Facebook You guys said you were on the lookout For a horn section For some recording in the works Oh that's for a project We got going on With some friends of ours You wanna talk about it? I don't think we're Well nothing's like settled yet I mean it's settled But it's too early to talk about it But it's gonna be awesome It's gonna be really cool We have like a lot of people in mind That are like super down It's gonna be like It's almost gonna be like You guys trying to go big band? Yeah Got a lot of noises At least for like you know At least an album or two It's like you know It's gonna be Wax Children though Just like Wax Children Expanded Extended And there's gonna be some Really And blah blah blah Really cool friends Really cool friends That are coming in on it But we'll We'll get further into that Before we start talking about it Right on Where's Wax Children at then These days? Um well As far as what? Uh well I mean like lately We've been working on Recording Like an EP And uh We also have like A full length album That we're kind of like It's in the works Like 60% done The EP is pretty much done I mean all we need to do Is just mix it down Where'd you guys record it at? Uh I don't know We're recording in Glinda With friends of ours Um We're putting something together there They've been getting a lot of bands in there Hazel Street Recordings They're building it right now And it's still in the works But they have some really great equipment And they're doing a lot of stuff And they're doing great guys That are running that It's really cool Everybody's starting up studios now I know It's pretty cool though It's great to see that It's so easy these days With how accessible gear is And especially with a digital revolution I'm sure you guys Are you recording on digital stuff? Yeah it's kind of It's pretty digital I mean A mixture of both Do you guys have a preference? What's your take on that? Well I mean Probably the way we would want to do I guess we really haven't had The right setup or I don't know The digital stuff The opportunity to do it The digital thing The digital thing is just kind of there Because you know I mean but Actually Yeah I mean It's Just putting it all together man I don't know There's a little bit of everywhere I don't know Just piecing it together Yeah How'd you guys start playing music together though? I see you guys were founded in April 2012 Yeah Yeah Did you guys know each other? How'd the band start? Well like Our bassist Lou and I Were in a band before And then like I mean that was like Pretty much like What me and him were doing in high school And then like once That was just kind of dying out Like I don't know Like the place where we'd practice at This dude like lived down the street And you know He just hit me up one day And asked me if we like We wanted to jam And then like from there on out Like We just like shared like A musical taste And like As far as like Where we were going and stuff And I don't know Me and this dude Just kind of you know We're like there since the beginning And then we just went through like Tons of members And like I mean even though Lou was there in the beginning In that short time period He didn't start playing bass When we started for the first like Three months There was like a lot of A lot of different There was like a revolving door Of musicians Yeah Yeah we went through like A couple drummers And a couple bassists And then Like Spinal Tap A couple of them combusted Yeah A couple of them Hurricane came by Yeah but Then we met We met Julian Our drummer Like Quickly after that Like within three months Right And are you guys all From San Gabriel Valley? Three of us are Three of us are Julian's from Downey Right on What's the What's music like growing up San Gabriel Valley? A lot of backyard shows From my experience Yeah there's a lot of everything They have I mean there's a lot of good taste Everybody has Everybody has a really good taste In music I would say What clubs do you like down there To play at? In SGV There's like nothing there Actually There's some spots I feel like there used to be a couple On like Lost Tunis Boulevard Right? Down that way I don't know A couple bars here and there It is very sparse There's a couple bars But there's like That's why I remember So many backyard shows Because Oh there's definitely Backyard shows Oh yeah Yeah I mean that's pretty much Like when me and Lewis Were in the band before It was like a punk band Yeah And you know That was just kind of The thing to do at the time Kicking up dirt In someone's backyard Yeah Just like Just hitting it You know Freaking backyard gigs On the weekends and stuff So But I mean other than that I don't know I don't really hear Anything going on In Covina To be exact Or like I don't know Other than Well other than our friends That are there Exactly Like you know Yeah I mean There's the bands that are there I mean there's not There's no scene out there There's not There is not much Too much places to play Unless it's DIY Right right And But the people that are there And making music there Are very Very cool Very talented too Very talented And they're all Homies Right on And Shout out to the SGV The SGV Right on Where can we follow you guys? I understand You guys are going to play As soon as we get through Our next song break But What do you got? Wax Children At the Facebooks We can find your music At Bandcamp Facebook Pretty much just Facebook And Instagram I guess like They're trying to start Doing Twitter But I mean I don't As far as following our music Though It's just Go to Bandcamp You're not digging on Twitter? That's one of those Facebook or Instagram Just like I said Just fucking find them If you give a shit Right on We're going to come back And they're going to play some tunes Here on A Planet Cacophony Thanks Let me see you wrecking your ID What's your strain, honey? Dude What do you got on your top shelf? Better don't biscuit Chinese eyes, man Number five Michael Crowden Man! Made My Mind Up The hammer is my penis Number four Ty Siegel Mr. Face When the sky shines It'll be alright And when the sky shines It'll be alright And it made me feel Like a piece of shit Number three Together Pangea I looked into I can't keep it in my mind It's just a smoke in the air And I look in your eyes I can't keep it in my mind It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny It ain't funny Package for Mr. Mimeo. I was walking with a friend of mine. Do another jump a couple times. Got a notion that I'll do you good. Eat a pizza down in Hollywood. Get a house in a laundromat. Stay a motherfucker in the back. Goddamn, I was in that shit, man. I never had no dope like that before in my life, man. That's the heaviest shit I ever smoked, man. I mean, I smoked a lot of shit before, man. But goddamn, man, that's heavy shit. We'll look at the courageous Korean gymnast, Kim Hwan, who made a perfect dismount on what was later revealed to be a broken leg. Ah! Yeah. What are you going to say to your fans when they ask you some questions about it? I'm going to say I feel good. I just got a brand new bag. It's a man's world. No. I'm concerned because there's nothing wrong. Yeah. I'm concerned because there's nothing wrong. Yeah. I'm concerned because there's nothing wrong. Yeah. I'm concerned because there's nothing wrong. Yeah. Black children! Oh my goodness! Oh my goodness! We're going to have to call out the doctor! Whatever way we're going to go! Whatever way we're going to go! Whatever way we're going to go! That's a pretty good chance. Thanks, Paul Stanley. Welcome back to A Pineapple Company. We're sitting here with my ex-children and Victor's holding a guitar. Yep. Are you going to play us a couple tunes? Yeah, I'll play a few tunes. Right on, right on. What are you going to do first? This one's kind of an old one. We call it Safe Hands. Safe Hands. Yeah, we're actually re-recording it for the EP that should be done pretty soon. Awesome. Should be done like tomorrow. Nice. Tomorrow's an exclusive performance right before the tomorrow finish date. That's probably it. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. guitar solo I'm packing up my bags Setting out for nowhere Where a mermaid lay And cleanse away frustration And maybe there I'll find A token that's worth saving A paradise is just a shake away Good night, starlight The floor begins receding Let's fly La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la Oh yeah, it's dawning and the earth begins its feeding Let's fly La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la And through that strange terrain The stars align going nowhere No need for names for those who are ashamed And maybe in due time Was left a hope they can't share A paradise is just a shake away Yeah Good night starlight The floor begins receding Let's fly La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la Oh yeah, it's dawning And the earth begins its feeding Let's fly Let's fly Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. We would like to welcome you, my friend, into the show where everybody knows is free. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, man. Sounds great. Yeah, I'm just trying to seat myself into that and get in the zone. Getting all loosened up, huh? Yeah, and you're getting zoned more. Yeah, it's all about mojo, really. Exactly. You were in the zone, man. Yeah. Yeah, I was getting there. You were definitely getting there. Okay, you want to do another one? Yeah, we'll do another one. Cool. What's this one called? This one is called Mr. Hill. Mr. Hill? Yeah. Wait, no. It's called Mr. Hill. Can I drink coffee? What? Drink water. Drink water. All right. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Mr. Hill, play that song. Your life, play that song. And time goes by as the weather starts to change. And the sun beats down. Wow. Falling gently, gently. Brains. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh Oh Oh guitar solo guitar solo That was cool, man. I'm really digging that. Thank you. It sounds great. It sounds really great in here. Nice and broken down like that and clean. Yeah. Do you feel like doing another one? We could just play something off of one of the old tracks, too. Let's go to the music. Should we? Play the hidden. Go to the music. Play more music? Yeah, let's play more music. We're going to go to a segment called Del Barrio. Yeah, that's fine. All right, and then we'll come back and we'll talk about your show at the Flyaway coming up. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. Hey, hey, you from Del Barrio, bro? What? Barry's not here, man. Oh, yeah. We have one more song. Friend... Hello, hello, hello. Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! Stop waxing my children! No parents! No parents! 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Thank you. Thank you for your honesty.