Sex therapist Dr. Sam and dominatrix Mona Wales discuss kinks and sex tracking

I pour myself a glass of well-deserved wine and kick back on my comfy sofa. Jack has gone to seminar this weekend and little Jack is spending the night with his friend. I have the whole house to myself. Not that I mind being a wife and mother, but a girl does need a little downtime. I sigh and close my eyes. Visions of hot guys go through my head. It's been a little while. I shift uncomfortably in my chair, thoughts of masturbation in my head. Suddenly, I hear a loud thunk. Did I lock the front door? My husband warned me to bolt, both front and back. There had been a rash of break-ins and two horrific murders in the area. Police suspected a serial killer. People were calling him Tinker Taylor due to the ghastly way the victims died. I don't want to think about it. I just need to know where that sound came from. Then suddenly, I feel a blinding pain against my skull. Then, nothing. I wake up slowly. I can't move my arms or legs, and my mouth feels funny. Numb. My head pounding, I look above where my arms are stretched and see my hands tied with my own scars tightly to the bedpost. I look down, and the same is true for my feet. I hear a lumbering sound to my left, and a huge head comes into view. His hair is sandy brown and unkempt, his face nondescript. But his eyes. His eyes are bloodshot, and I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. He holds a mirror in front of my face and gestures me to look in it. What I see makes me want to scream hysterically, but I can't. My mouth has been sewn shut, the black threads of stitching on my lips still bleeding. He moves in and gives me a cold kiss, then presses his finger to his lips in the universal quiet signal. His left hand moves down to my chest. I strain at the material holding me captive, my mind all but frozen with tear. With his right he holds up a small clear container of straight pins. I recognize them from my sewing kit. He giggles and pulls one out. With one finger holding my nipple taut, he pushes it through the end tip. I faint. When I wake up I feel a series of sharp pains. I can't tell where they are coming from until I look down and see the pincushion that was my breasts. The low light glints off 50 or so needles protruding from my flesh. My lips burn as I try to open my mouth again to scream. All I can manage is a low growl in my throat. The big man that I know now is the Tinker Tailor starts to untie my wrists, then pull at the knots on my ankles. A pang of hope blooms in my chest. Maybe he regrets hurting me. Maybe he wants to set me free. But no. He flips me over and pushes me down into the mattress. My breasts throb with pain as my beating heart pulses them with blood. What fresh horror is this? He parts my thighs roughly then inserts a large dirty finger into my ass. I'm helpless, held down by his weight as he slides in another, pushing deeper into my tight hole. I feel like a thousand sharp knives are burrowing inside of me and I feel excited. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm being tempted. The sensations of being captive and penetrated are making me horny. I feel him extract his fingers and push what I can only imagine is the fleshy head of his huge cock against my back opening. I moan as he pushes at least 7 or 8 thick inches of shaft deep inside of me. As he starts to pump I feel him loop something around my neck. Oh my God. A tape measure and he pulls it. He pulls it tight. I can't breathe as he pistons into my ass. I struggle blindly. as my pussy betrays me and gushes wet fluid onto the sheets. Harder and harder he thrusts into me, using me as a passive opening for his big battering ram. Time stands still as I come hard around his cock with my throat squeezed cruelly shut. The pain and pleasure explode into my final orgasm. Tinker Taylor, I think. My mind's starting to fade. What a perfect name. Woo! Yay, Ginger! That was a good read. That was... Welcome to Blame It on Ginger. It is Whores and Horrors Thursday with me, Ginger Lynn, and... Kelly Nichols. Kelly Nichols. We've also got... Stevie! ...in the studio. Kelly, your corner, your stories are incredibly erotic. They're incredibly creepy. They make me wiggle. They make me squirm. They make me... Turned on. Nasty little pieces of business. They really are. And the thing is, you know, what triggers your mind, what makes your pussy wet, and what the reality is, you know, they're completely different things. Well, this one was helpful because we had talked about doing one for you. Exactly. I even came over your house and we sort of PowerPointed some things that would excite you and incorporate it into one of the fantasies. So this was actually out of my comfortable wheel of doing things. I was using what you had told me and incorporating into a murder who had sort of an identification with a series of objects that he could use on you and do to you what you sort of wanted done to you in kind of a submissive place. Right. Now, I can completely imagine my man taking me to those points and doing those things. Well, maybe not pushing 50 needles in your boobs. I can imagine him... But in my fantasy, I can completely imagine him putting the pins in. When you read about the 50 pins in your breasts, did that kind of turn you on a little bit? It made my nipples tingle. Wow. It did. It did. It was, do I really want that to happen? No fucking way. But I'm thinking it's a great, great scene. I mean, is this something that's been done? This is completely... This is, you know, it's one of those things that everything's been done. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen a movie or read a story in my little life that was like this. Of course, there's probably a bunch of stuff out there, but this was not something that I'd come across. So I try and allow my stuff to be a little bit... Some of my earlier stuff was sort of taken from maybe some cheesy horror movies that I've seen with the little spin that I give it. But this was, you told me some things and I just sort of made this up. So I just wanted it to be nasty. Now, is there a tinker... Not that I know. Tinker? Tinker toy? No, Tinker Taylor. Because he was using sewing items and things on you. Like Tinker Taylor, yeah. Taylor, because of the sewing stuff. Right, got it. So sewing your lips closed and the straight pins and the tape measure. Now, how hard would that be? You're a makeup artist as well as many other things. How hard would it be to create a scene in a horror film where something like that happened, where a girl's lips, were sewn shut? Oh, not that hard. Actually, if you have a shop where you do that and you can do prosthetics, you could do a thin latex film that you could have pre-sewed the black thread on and then, you know, you latex it to your lips and then paint it a flesh color and then you have... And then you put a little glistening or a little blood and it will look very realistic. And the pins would be like, you'd put a little bit of latex within a thickness and then you would have half pins. You could even do it. You'd take pins and you break them in half and then spirit gum them. It helps to have latex as a little bit more of an anchor, but you could actually do it to your own breasts and make them look like they were. And make it look like... And maybe take a brush and put a little bit of redness around them so they look irritated. Right. And the choking is easy. I'd just choke you out. You'd just choke me out. Yeah, that would be... I mean, is that a turn on also too? I love the choke out, yeah. Because I know you like the ass play. Love the ass play. And then from behind, being turned on, choked out while you have something in your ass. I've never been choked out from behind. And ever. And that's going to be... Are you hearing that, Nick? Oh, I got it good last night. I got it really good last night. Tell me, tell me. You know, it was one of those things. We had a very, very busy day. Did my show. Had a great time. Went home. And I'm like mom when I go home. Yes, you are. I have different parts of my day. I've got... I've got my business woman during the day. I've got my girlfriend part of my day. I've got my mom part of the day. I've got my radio show personality part of the day. I've got my sleazy part of my day. I've got... You know, I'm like a pie and I've got a lot of different slices. I'm cut up into many pieces of that pie. And so yesterday was really full. I got home and I made dinner and everybody was happy and everybody was fed. And Nick and I went upstairs and we didn't talk. We didn't play. We didn't plan it. We didn't do anything. He just... We got into bed and his dick was hard and I climbed on and we just fucked. It was one of those we both just wanted to fuck. And needed it. And needed it. And there... It wasn't... And you didn't say anything to each other? No, we didn't talk. Wow, that's hot. We didn't talk. I like that. That kind of non-communication and just so primal. Exactly. Exactly. We just fucked. And then today he got up and I was... And he came inside of me. And that's always... Special. That's really romantic for me. I know. It sounds really... Like, you know, our regular sex life is rough and dirty. You know, that's just how it is. So when we're normal, that's like our weird kinky sex. So we had really kinky weird sex last night. We had the no talking, just as you said, primal, just fucking... It wasn't dirty. It wasn't nasty. It wasn't sweet. It wasn't romantic. We just fucked. Mm-hmm. And so today I got up and Nick has a... He has a goatee. Mm-hmm. And he lets it come and go while he got out of the shower today with a freshly cleaned face. So I know that tonight I'm gonna get like the best pussy licking ever. Ah! I love the fresh face pussy licking. Right. Yes. So in this morning you said that it was romantic because he came in you? This morning... I could still smell the sex in the room. Mm-hmm. I could still... You know, I touch my pussy a lot. And I had my hands down there and I was touching and I could just bring my fingers back up and I could smell our sex together. Oh, that's sweet. And it just made it... Yeah. He went to sleep like that two seconds afterwards. Right. And I lay there and just kind of watched him. He had such a... such a peaceful, satisfied look on his face. Mm-hmm. I think that everybody should be so lucky to go to sleep that way every night. Yes. And... But in the morning when he came in you, it's still... It's a different smell. It's fragrant, but it's a different... It's different. It's a different sex smell. It's not... Yeah, no, it was... Yeah, I took a shower. That wasn't inferring anything there, girlfriend. I did. Yeah. You did what? You made sure and it's... Whoa. How long do you usually take to have sex? What's your average when you're with a partner? It's been a while, but I would say myself is a whole different thing, but with somebody else, it's really been a while. I would say no shorter, hopefully, than 20 minutes. Right. And don't think I can go longer than two hours because I will... Depending on... If you break it up and do different things, I can go much longer. Right. But to be constantly either eaten or blowjobs or pounded into, there's only so much calories I can burn, how much I can take. Exactly. So I would say two hours may be my limit unless you're really, break it up and you may take... You roll over, you eat a little cucumber salad. Drink a little sports drink. Have some sports drink. Hydrate. Have some sports drink. Yeah. And that's about the same that I am. That's, you know, my regular, like everyday sex is usually about 20 to 30 minutes. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's because I need that time to warm up. I need that time to get there. Now, and I fortunately have a lover that takes his time and doesn't just jump in or just spit out. I mean, there's times when he'll just roll me over and spit on my pussy. Right. But that's part of our play. But usually there's something involved before. And you warm him up too. I mean, it's not just you warming up. Yeah, we don't, it's warm. You don't jump into that cold. We don't walk into it with my pussy wet and his dick hard. There's no director there to go, all right, go do. No, I mean, but I am the girl that... And treat to the camera. I am the girl that will just walk into the bathroom and see him if he's naked getting out of the shower and drop to my knees and just suck your dick. I will do that in a heartbeat. I do that. And he's the kind of guy that, you know, if I'm... Appreciates it. That appreciates it. And let's say I'm getting ready for bed or something and I take off my one outfit, he'll just pick me up, throw me on the bed, spread my legs and lick my pussy. Oh, see, that's primal. That's amazing. That's like you, you inspire him still and he just takes his cues from you and he still finds you hot and sexy and he feels he can be dominant with you by picking you up and throwing you down, which I know that you like. Love that. Yes. Well, you're in charge too. So, to have that taken away and have someone else be in charge and take over has to be so refreshing for you. Oh my God. And to have that trust to be able to know that, okay, normally let's say I drop to my knees or let's change it around. Nick grabs me and slides his hand up into my hair, close to my scalp, grabs it, pulls my head back and puts me down on my knees to suck his dick. I'm going to love that. I'm going to love it when he shoves my head down on it and forces me to suck it. No matter how hard and how uncomfortable it's still, he's controlling it. He's controlling it. In fact, the harder and the more uncomfortable the better, right? My eyes will be watering. I'll be choking on his cock. I'll be gagging on it. But there's such a trust factor there that I know that if at any moment I wanted anything to stop, it would and it could. So, I've given complete control over to him but there's a topping I do from the bottom definitely if I need to but I never need to because we know each other's boundaries. I've never said Rumpelstiltskin with Nick. Okay. I've never said Rumpelstiltskin. And you talked, you touched on something else that crazy giving head place where you go where like someone's hand is on your, I've done this in the past where someone's hand is on your head and pushing you down and you're taking something so deep in your throat. You're gagging and you don't care and you just, you want to make those sounds. Those, it's like, it's like, I'm not doing this for like, yeah, this is not a movie being made. This is like real here and now and I am gagging on this man's cock and saliva is dripping down my face and I'm loving every minute of it. I don't care what I look like. Come on, deeper. Make me choke. Make me vomit. No, no, maybe not vomit but oh my gosh. Yeah, take me, take me right to that point and one of the things that'll make it even hotter sometimes, you had just brought up something that took me there is the same thing. Nick will pull out his camera phone. He'll bring out, bring out his phone and video while he, he forced me to give him a blowjob. A couple of weeks ago we were in the bedroom and it was just one of those just making me go down and it was a long fucking cock sucker and I find that having the camera there made me able to go longer. What? To suck cock longer because I was playing from the old camera. I'm like, wait a minute, okay, I'm cheating to the camera. I'm making sure that when I've got his dick coming out, you know, one of the, because you know he's going to look at it later on so you want him to be able to see everything not because you were a former. I'm looking up into the camera. I'm looking back down at the cock. I'm taking his cock and putting it so it's coming out the side of my mouth. But you're still into it. It's not so, you're not pulled out of the moment so much. I'm more into the moment because I know that he's going to be watching it later. Nice. Which sounds bizarre. No, no, I get it. I've had someone who is very talented holding up a phone and doing the same thing. Yes. Yes. I missed this whole big scandal. Did you see the thing with the iCloud? What? Okay, I don't know much about it. So this is just my short story heard from somebody else that heard it from somebody else. Apparently iCloud, which is where everybody's photos are stored on your phone, they go up into this place in heaven. Somebody was able to hack into it and was able to get celebrity photos. Oh, that I heard. Yes. Yes. Naked pictures, all kinds of compromising that people take on their phone and think are safe. Oh my God. And I can't think of the girl's name, but the hottest one, there was this really beautiful hot sexy girl. I think she's the girl from the Hunger Games. Yes. Jennifer Lawrence. Jennifer Lawrence. Yes. And there's one where she's posing and she's topless and she gets, then she's bottomless and you can see her pussy. Next photo, her face is just doused in cum. It was so fucking hot. Where did you say that? I just heard about the naked pictures. No, this, Jennifer Lawrence's face is covered in cum. In cum. In cum. In cum. In cum. In cum. In cum. In cum. In cum. In cum. In cum. And there's no doubt that is her. She is glazed and looking so beautiful. Oh my God. Yeah. So I, you know, shame on the people that hacked it, but I was really glad that I got to see her face covered in cum and gave me, put it in my spank bank. What's your spank bank? Don't explain that. My spank bank is what I use to masturbate to. It's where I go in my head. It's all the dirty little stories. There's, you know, the generic basic one that I start with, you know, okay, this is going to make me cum. And then there's times when it's more difficult to cum, which is not very often, but then I bump it up and I've got different places I go and just. Oh, sure. Yeah. There's a TV show called Sherlock. It has Benedict Cumberbatch in it. And as Sherlock, he goes to where he calls his mind palace and there's different rooms and that's, that's me. It's porn palace. Your porn palace. Yeah. I like that. Different rooms, downstairs, upstairs. The generic, generic kitchen. The dank cellar. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've got alleys. Okay. Alleys behind. Yeah. Dumpsters nearby. You know, rain. In the garage. Oh, in the alley, it's got a brick wall. Oh, my gosh. It's dirty. It's filthy. Not for comedy. It stinks. No. No. No comedy at all. No. My places are all dark and dirty. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. There's, no, there's no like. Christine? Nothing. Oh, my gosh. No, no. There's nothing vanilla in my spank bank. There's no glowing angel playing the, well, in some ways, just dropping to your knees and giving up. Well, I guess that's nasty. Not even close. There's no angel in my spank bank whatsoever. Oh, you're screwing up your reputation, you innocent young blonde. I look like a nice girl. You do. I look like a normal girl. Like this beautiful blonde girl next door who like, you look over and she's doing her laundry on clotheslines. And that if you only knew. But people all over the country do it different lengths of time and I was able to find something recently on the amount, what states last the longest and the shortest in bed. Okay. All right. What have you, you got some info for me there? Yeah. It's interesting. If you have got some time, head to New Mexico. Oh, fresh data from spreadsheets, a sex tracking, app launched last August may show you how your state measures up endurance wise to its neighbors. We're editing a sort of thermometer for sex. Co-creator Tyler at a 29 tool Tuffington post. In addition to how long you're lasting spreadsheets can keep track of thrust per minute, audio levels and frequency of sex. Oh my gosh. So spreadsheets, it's an app. It's an app. I'm getting this app. Sex tracking app. Our goal is to provide a product that connects people on an intimate, intimate level. Co-creator Danny Wax saw a need in the market when they realized that people were already tracking activities like their runs and sleep cycles, which I do. I hike and I get that walk per mile kind of thing. And so this is like thrust, audio, audio. Oh my God. So like if you're really quiet, maybe it won't register like you're as active. I mean, everyone has different levels, but yeah, there's times when, when there's no words at all. And then there's times where I'm just telling filthy, dirty, disgusting stories. Other times where I'm just getting pounded and screaming. So you'd be on the Richter scale. I don't know where I would be. Last night, I would be nowhere. Right. And that would be the true of the thrust. Sometimes you want low, slow thrust. You know what? It would just be, yeah. So this is just kind of a tracking device. It's not really a commentary how like good or bad or poor you are. Just like, so for your own, you know, like miles per hour, like you just kind of want to know how long it lasted, how many thrusts, how loud you were, how much you were, Well, like for instance, my boyfriend's mother loves it when I make him go hiking. So I can't get him to go hiking with me very often anymore, but I can always get him to have sex. If we got him one of these, he could measure and go, Mom, I did 40 minutes today. You know, not what he did. I did 40 minutes of cardio. I did 700 thrust. Cardio thrust, Mom. Get it? I'm a healthy man. So he is technically getting in his exercise. He's getting an abundance of exercise. Oh my gosh. And this could measure it. I wonder if they have a heart monitor on there too. I wonder. What's the product called? It's called, let's see, sex spreadsheet. Spreadsheets. Spreadsheets with an S. Spreadsheets. A sex tracking app. I am definitely getting this. This will be so much fun. I imagine it might be intimidating for like a new relationship or something. Right. Or it could be a litmus test. Like the guy will go, yeah, bring it. I want to know how much I'm fucking. Yeah. Stevie, can you download that app on my phone? I don't know. Do I need your password? You just have an app store, right? I have an app store. Just hit my app store and go into it. Yeah. It should be free. I don't want it if I have to pay for it. Well, if it's $1.99 it might be worth it. I could do $1.99. There's usually not much. Yeah. Don't be cheap. Don't be cheap about this. All right. I'll give you my password if you just get in there and find it. Okay. So it's good. Now, so I've got my phone there while I'm fucking. Do I put it like? I don't know. It's not going into detail. I would think you'd either put it, okay, in a map my walk. Okay. There's a motion detector on the phone. So it can actually tell you not just how long you were hiking but steps per mile. You put like walk, it'll measure a certain amount. If you put hike, it foreshortens it and measures it mathematically. So, I would think if you have an advanced smartphone like four or up, you could, it would be motion. So that would measure the thrust. I'm thinking that audio would have, it would be able to, your phone picks up that. It's got a microphone and pick up. So it'd be a multitasking app. Timing, thrust, audio. Yeah, but do I have to connect the phone to my body to, you know, like. No, I wouldn't think so. Or just have it nearby. Just have it, it'll feel the thrust. I just need it. I just need, for my walk, I just need it in my pocket. All right. Or crested between your breasts. I don't have any clothes on when I'm fucking, so. Well, you've got big breasts, so just nestle it under your breasts. I could do it between my breasts or I could get the, I've got the armband. Right. I could put it on my arm. Just make sure the microphone's facing the audio. What am I looking for? Spreadsheets? Spreadsheets. With an S. With an S. So. It's a sex app. Yeah. Okay, I hit install. Oh. Oh, it's right up there because sometimes. See, you need to, you need to sign in. I can't do it. Sometimes the apps are a little too, like, like, sexy and sometimes they don't allow, you have to go through, like, an alternative route to get the more sexy ones. I mean, like, well, Grindr, you can get it. And I mean, obviously. Well, I have to still put my password when I did that. No, no, no. Y'all have to put, y'all have to put your password in. It says here, happy couples have sex one to two times per week. That's it? Is that what the app says? Yep. Okay, it's downloading. All right, honey, we are going to, I'm going to be tracking my, my, my, my sex. Oh, okay. And it doesn't give more information on it? Um, well, you should enter, enter your password and it should say more when you, but, uh, in the meantime, uh, let's see, list here. So where do people fuck the most? Uh, New Mexico is the longest, uh, let's see, Rundale average, average sex times, which can be seen, what is that? Oh, 7.1. I thought that was like how long it lasted. So average sex times, I guess a week, uh, would be 7.1, West Virginia, 538. It's, it's broken down like times per week. They fuck. Uh, this is not a complete thing, so I don't want to even say that. Okay. Um, I, I didn't get the feeling that you, where do people fuck the most? Where do people get the bed? Is there, okay, New Mexico, New Mexico is where people that's where, yeah, that's where, and the least, let's come up with the least. Uh, here you go, Stevie. It's in, it's in the phone, so maybe you can find that. and where do they fuck the least? Alaska. It's too fucking cold. I wouldn't doubt that at all. Here's a little bit more about the apps. Our app isn't purely about penises entering vaginas. Our app is more about tracking entire amounts of sexual activity. If that includes foreplay for people, we're open to it. While the user can set the phone on a mattress to monitor movement, the timing feature of the app can be used as a simple timer. One user may opt to start the timer before the next person or foreplay begins while a different user could interrupt the mood completely to go fiddle with his phone prior to entering thrust. However, with a median at around two and a half minutes, we really hope people aren't clocking in until the main event. Wow. So the median is two, like two minutes? With the median around, I guess, coming in. So it's around two, three minutes is what the average person's fucking? I don't know if that's, how, until you come in at two and a half minutes? Well, that's what they're saying. They're hoping that people aren't starting it during foreplay because the average amount of time that sex is happening is only two and a half to three minutes. Right. If you go from state to state, that's sad. No wonder so many women don't like sex. I have a question. Yeah. Do you have an innerspring, air mattress, memory foam, or water bed? I know you don't have a water bed. What are the choices? Because I have to calibrate everything? Yeah, but what are my choices again? Innerspring, air mattress, or memory foam? Innerspring. Innerspring? Okay. Oh, that's good. So it gives you a choice. That's great. It's more precise. I put you down as a woman. Thank you. Okay. Your ideal love life. It says, I have to pick your character now. So your ideal love life is sophisticated, cosmopolitan, flirty, or Randy? Randy. Randy. Everybody listening just went Randy. Yes. Jenny's back there mouthing Randy. Andy's back there mouthing Randy. All right. What's the last one? You have to put this phone on your bed and bounce up and down on it so it can calibrate your bed. Okay. But you have to do that at home. I can't fill it out anymore. So I'm signed in. I'm ready. And all I have to do is put it next to me and start it when I fuck. Or at least set it. Yeah, let me go previous. I'll go back. All right. Do a little research on it. We'll get to that after our break. We've got Dr. Sam, Dr. Sam, the sex therapist. Why do you do that? I don't know. When I met him, his name is Sam and I just called him Sam. And I just, it stuck. Poor man. It stuck. Somebody Sam. Somebody Sam. So that's who he is. We got Sam coming in in just a few minutes. You are listening to Blame It On Ginger on Skid Row Studios on iTunes right here, right now with me, Ginger Lynn, with Kelly Nichols, with Stevie. And while we're taking our quick break, getting ready for next segment, I want you to go to thescreamingo.com. Tell them Ginger Lynn sent, sent, you put Ginger in the offer code and they will take good care of you. We'll be right back here on Blame It On Ginger. We'll be right back here on Blame It On Ginger. We'll be right back here on Blame It On Ginger. 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No, I'm done. I'm Dr. Sam. That's my real name. That's what I know. That's your handle. Okay. Sorry. That's just... And actually, that's all I know you as is Sam. Yeah. And you're Sam Playboy in my phone. It says Sam, Sam, T-H-A-M, but there's first Sam, then Sam, then Playboy. Sam, Sam, Playboy. Yeah. That's how we know each other. That's how we know each other. We worked together back when I was on Playboy Radio for years and years and years, and Sam and I got to be friends and... Did you have a show or did you just come on our show? I actually helped produce her show. What? I was part of the production team, but then I also have experience as a sex therapist. I have a bunch of radio experience, but then also a bunch of sex and therapy experience. Wow. That's a great combination to have. You should do something with that. I'm working on it. Well, you are because aren't you right now on Playboy? Yeah. We actually have a new show that's going to be coming up very shortly. It's going to be the Sex Super Friends. We actually are going to be going with two different options. One's going to be one that's going to be tailored towards a younger audience that... That basically learned everything they know about sex from the internet. That's frightening. Please help them. Oh, God. There's so many misconceptions. How many people out there think you get pregnant from a money shot to the face? I mean, seriously, that's a lot of the people that we're dealing with as well. No. Wow. Do people really think that? I honestly think they do. Did you hear about the one person who claimed that they got pregnant from watching porn while their husband was overseas in the military? Hmm. And the guy believed it. What? The guy believed it. He was delusional. She's a big liar. Absolutely. And they're probably related. Yeah. Not just by marriage. Yeah. I mean, if you... Seriously, if you think that, is that the kind of mentality? Is that what we're dealing with with the youth of society today? A lot of misinformed youth out there. A lot of misconceptions out there. A lot of myths flying around. And we hope to dispel a lot of them. And that comes from porn being on the internet and them getting... That's the only information they have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a matter of how accessible sex has become, how porn has become so accessible through the internet. Back in the days, guys used to have stashes of this stuff and they kept it hidden. Right. Now, it's like girls are almost as upfront about learning about sex from the internet as guys did through porn. Wow. Are they? Yeah. They don't like to talk about it, of course, in polite society. But nowadays, more women are... That's why I don't know them. ...are much more honest about learning about sex through porn. And as you said, there are many misconceptions. So, you're doing a good service. And this is going to be on Playboy Radio? Yeah. That's... We just finished off the second episode. They're going to be premiering it within the next week or so. And we also have another idea that we're going to work on because it's me with two sex therapists who are beautiful mid-20s, Dr. Cat and Jessica Jay. Oh, that's got to be awful for you. Oh, yeah. It's such a burden to be in a room with them. But the other idea that we had is kind of going to be... We get people out there who actually... have some sex problems. They come in anonymously. We kind of solicit maybe through Craigslist or something, have them come in anonymously and we actually help them as like, not necessarily, you can't call it sex therapy, but we'd be like sex coaching. Sex coaching, right. That's fantastic. We want to kind of give you, give the audience the fly on the whole perspective of it. Kind of like with the love line on something like that? A little bit like love line, but instead of going rapid fire through calls, we're going to stop and settle for about a half hour on one person, their problem. Right. And then have one caller, their problem. That's great because I think love line does, I mean, you're right, they go rapid fire, but there's times where I've really heard them really bring somebody around. Oh, absolutely. What they're doing. Yeah. But a lot of times when people have actual sex problems, they say, you may need to go and see a sex therapist. Right. So that's where we come in. That's true. That's where. And you've got the real deal there. Yeah. Yeah. You've got the real deal. And so where can we find this? That's going to also be, we're aiming that at Playboy. Actually, that was suggested. Is it playboyradio.com? Playboy Radio. Playboyradio.com. The internet. That's what I wanted to hear and make sure that everybody knows where to find you. Yeah. Yeah. We'll find you there. Yeah. Well, we've got a caller already waiting for you. Our number here is 1-800-893-9562. Hello, beautiful girl. How are you? Hello. Hi there. I'm sorry. I'm not feeling well, so my voice is deeper than usual. It's always very sexy. No. I don't think, I didn't think your voice could get any sex. It's sexier, but it has. It has. I wanted to say two things. Well, now three, now that you have a guest. But first, Kelly, I watched The Thing. Oh, no. Yeah? It was good, but, you know, kind of upset that there was no conclusion. You don't know if they got rid of The Thing or one of them. Well, that's a horror in and of itself. So, yeah, it's like your worst fear is paranoia. And, yeah, you kind of get the feeling it's the worst case scenario, which is just horrible. You almost walk away with a horrible feeling. Right. I'm sorry. I'm glad you saw it. I hope you liked it. I have no answers. Yes. But did you get scared? Were you freaked out? Was it a good horror film? It was. It was thrilling. It wasn't too gross. It kept me on the edge of my seat. It was really good. All right. Thank you for the suggestion. You're welcome. So, Ginger. Yes, baby? I was not feeling well yesterday, and I didn't get to listen to the show live. Right. But I was listening this morning when I got home from work. And you kind of turned me on when you were talking to Natasha, telling her what you would do to her if you get her at your house. Yes. She was very much into it. You know, she's one of those... I kind of had to... Did you masturbate? Take care of business. Oh, I love that. I love that. And do I not have the best job ever? I get beautiful girls that come in and take their clothes off for me and let me smell their pussies and play with their titties. And touch them and kiss them. And it's just... I'm the luckiest girl ever. I have an abundance of many things. That's my word of the day is abundance. It's my word of the day. You do, but it's like, you know, I'm a sucker for dirty talk. You kind of got in trouble with me and talking dirty to me. Yes, we got kicked off of the show. Yeah, we were kicked off of iTunes for a while because we got a little too dirty. But now we know. We know the rules. We can do everything except have an orgasm. That's our final... We can't have orgasms here. That's a shame. Isn't that sad? Yeah. That's something that should be essential to life in itself. I mean, we were forced to hear such bad music often that we might as well have something good. Dr. Sam? Yeah. I know what you're talking about with young people because parents either don't have a baby or they don't have a baby. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't talk to their kids. And so we were forced to run off the streets. And there was a misconception I had when I was younger. A friend of mine told me I couldn't get pregnant as long as I got the guy off two times before I let him have intercourse. Did a guy tell you that? Yeah, right? Yes, actually. Oh, no shame. No shame. No shame. I think he just wanted to come three times. Three times. Yeah, that's brilliant. Well, thank God. I was lucky I didn't get any disease. Or pregnant. You know, unless you wanted to be. I'm going to guess that if you were at an age where you had that misconception, you weren't ready to be pregnant if you thought that the third time. Well, actually, I'm going to tell on myself because I grew up in a bubble world. I'm very religious. No sex talk. And I believed that until I was 30. Really? Oh, my goodness. You know what? Thank you so much for being brave and sharing that with us. Yeah. Wow. So, it's, you need more shows like this. More shows like that. Like Dr. Sam's show. To help people because people really don't know. Oh, yeah. You know, that's really, thank you so much for letting us in on that. I had no idea. And I have an 18-year-old and the only thing we've ever talked about when it comes to sex is making sure that it's safe. Yeah. That is, you know, I've not sat down and said, okay, here's how it works. He's gone to school and they've had sex ed classes. And I know that we've talked about things a little bit, but my main concern with my child has always been safety. What about enjoyment? Were you able to talk to him about that at all? No, I really haven't. And it's very difficult. For most parents, it's a difficult task in the first place to talk to their teenagers about it. I'm ginger fucking Lynn and he's known that since he was 13. I cannot have that conversation with my son in a way that he will take as healthy. Right. You know, someone needs to have it with him. But I don't know who that someone, Stevie. I was going to do it last night. I mean, I was sat there and I wrote it on napkin. Right. And you said not now. I'm making you wrote it on a napkin. Here I am. I was I'm making homemade chicken noodle soup. My son is there. His girlfriend is there. My boyfriend is there. Stevie's there. We got a kitchen. The house is smelling good. Stevie holds up a paper napkin that he wrote. What is something? Lube? Lube? Because the condoms keep breaking. Because their condoms keep breaking. And so Stevie wanted to know if I wanted to give him some lube. And I'm like, no, we're having chicken noodle soup. I'm like, I'm not going to give him some lube. I'm going to give him some chicken noodle soup. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. I don't think so they were getting ready to go off and I thought maybe we should have a talk now but I didn't know where the lube was in the house but would you give advice would you give advice yeah it's interesting for me to talk about that talk about how pleasure I can yeah pleasure and that kind of stuff that parents can't do supposedly we want to thank you did you have anything else any other questions honey no that's it no we adore you we always love to hear from you and again you're my hero you're my heroine wait you know what I mean I get you high you get me high baby every time we'll talk to you soon have a great weekend do you have any sex clubs or anything fun planned and coming up no I'm working this weekend I would have but I had to pick up because my car died and it's 740 bucks so I need to work out ouch ouch yeah I just my flat tire light keeps coming out and just shut it off you can just shut the if you play with it enough you can just turn those lights off I gave myself credit yesterday for going look I was able to turn the light off dear god no but Andy checked my tires and said they're fine so else we have a great weekend I'm sorry you have to work but I will be having sex and at one point I'm going to have an orgasm and I'm going to yell out this one's for L sweet and I've got my new little app on my phone so you'll know how to yell I loud yell I loud how loud I yell you have to calibrate the phone still so I think you might have to delete the app and go through those steps again delete it and then re oh I'll come back on you're twisting your words I know I'm thinking about it already I can't wait okay have fun thanks have a great weekend guys bye bye bye bye I didn't mean to cut you off there but she was just hanging on and sometimes the noise in the background what were you asking Dr. Sam Stevie I didn't ask him anything yes you did did I ask you something I don't know he was telling you about the app what you needed to do no but before that before I started Stevie you were in the middle of a conversation and I said hold on L sweet and said goodbye to her so I fucked up the whole thing it doesn't matter oh I don't know we were just no Kelly had asked me about um making everything feel good but my main thing was the talk was about making sure the condoms don't break anymore thank you yeah now picture the fact that we have this environment here where you can have this conversation with your kids now picture the environment somewhere else in the country I'm not going to say what regions there are where people are too afraid to have these conversations where you end up having misconceptions about how you get pregnant right that's the kind of environment you're just talking just simple straight sex biological yeah that's the kind of environment like the environment we're talking about in here and the environment that you have with your own kid is one where you can actually have these discussions even though they may be uncomfortable for you or limited yeah you can it's still also being in Southern California even it's an environment that fosters a lot of sex positivity exactly and thank God there's a lot of other regions in the country that just don't have that level of communication the families put such taboos around sex they make everything so guarded that every kid is so afraid to ask their parents these questions and they go to school and the schools some of the schools don't even teach that stuff because they're maybe have religious issues or community based issues right and that makes it so that it's almost impossible for these kids to learn anything real about sex because the only place they turn to for sex is the internet and that's not catering to reality that's catering to fantasy exactly and some really crazy fantasies too absolutely absolutely so right there we had one misconception where a person up until age 30 thought that if you get a person off two times then the third time you're not going to get pregnant that's amazing I'm so glad that you've got your show I'm going to listen in oh thank you maybe I'll learn a few things what are some other misconceptions especially ones that guys tell girls oh geez guys will tell anything to girls what I heard was if you swallow cum your boobs will get bigger oh yeah and that's for some girls that kept them from swallowing too it might have a negative effect for some girls they're like I don't want the boobs I don't want the backache but there's so many I have really big tits how much cum have you swallowed girlfriend all of it I do not let that shit go to waste but there's a lot out there people of cum yeah absolutely there's so many people out there with so much cum what do you do with it out buckets and buckets but it's not just within this country I mean throughout the world there's a ton of misconceptions not just about sex but also about gender issues about race and intermingling between races it's something that's not just here in the United States where we have to clear up a lot of these misconceptions these are international worldwide things that need to be cleared up so hopefully we can get to that level yeah well you had said that Janie Hamilton that Veronica Hart goes around and does lectures right in China in China yes she does with her son with her son and I think her husband goes along too they did a great seminar this last weekend over at Catalyst Con they were the keynote speakers oh really and they were the last day you had all of them up there talking it was so great it was amazing oh that was wonderful I wish I'd known Annie Sprinkle it was what Club 90 I think that's what they were called yeah I used to belong with that Veronica Vera Candida Royale Annie Sprinkle and Janie Veronica Hart yeah I did the same thing with her name it's like she's okay with it now well because I worked with her I met Janie as a mainstream actress on a mainstream film but she uses Veronica Hart is her actress name yeah she used Jane Hamilton in this film and what's it called if anybody knows the film that I did with Jane Hamilton with Veronica Hart it's a mainstream film and I can't think of the title of it give us a call at 1-800-893-9562 I can't remember what it was it doesn't really matter but anyway I wish I would have been had gone to Catalyst and seen and listened to the women speak yeah do you think that that women in the adult film industry have good advice to give to civilians when it comes to this when it comes to sex when it comes to people in our industry do people in our industry are we in general someone who should be talking about sex and sharing I can give you one example Alexander Silk is a sexual surrogate yeah and he was one of the guys who was in the movie and he was one of the guys and he was one of the guys and he was one of the guys He was one of the speakers at the convention as well. Luke Wilder. Luke Wilder. Yeah. Yeah. So they're a couple. And but Alexander is like, I know she works all the time as a sexual surrogate. And she's very, very helpful. I mean, she's turned a lot of people around and it's a positive thing. Yeah. I talked to them a couple of weeks ago. They're going to be coming on the show in the near future. Oh, great. So, yeah, we'll have them on. So, yeah, there's an example of people from our business. It absolutely is vital for people in the business to speak up about this stuff. Mm-hmm. Because they are the people who are the most exposed and have the least to hide about it. Right. So it's something that for and I work with, I'm friends with and I work with a lot of people who are within the industry and who ask me, what steps do I need to take to get to what you're doing? Mm-hmm. And I'm so encouraging of that because it's one thing if you have a guy like me who does it, you know. Right. And if I'm by myself in a studio, I may come off as a creepy dude. That's why I invited you today. Yeah. But if I'm around people who are within the industry that understand my place and understand where how everything fits within the industry, I can be a very good service because people want to pay attention. But within the industry, if you have a person, well, a good example of that would be Jessica Drake. She is a great sex advocate. Yeah. She is. She goes around the world lecturing about this stuff. She trained with the same people that I trained with as far as sex therapy goes. Mm-hmm. If she were to take that extra step, maybe get her. Yeah. She could take a master's degree and become a therapist as well. Her voice within the industry will become huge. Right. It'll be one that crosses over because right now people only know her as a sex activist. And as soon as you say the word sex in certain parts of the country, they turn off their ears. But if you have a sex therapist who has that kind of experience, that has that kind of credibility, I'm telling you more people within the industry need to start looking ahead to doing that. Sure. How long does it take to get a degree to be a sex therapist? Well, you just need to start looking ahead. You just need to have the training. There's different levels. Sex coaching, sex educator, sex therapist. Okay. Sex therapists are people who've gone through and have a master's degree at least or a PhD. Okay. So those are people who can go and once they get the training, they can do more sex therapy work. Then there's sex coaching. If you don't have the master's degree or the graduate degree, you can go and be a sex coach or a sex educator. Do classes and things. Yeah. Okay. Now, that only takes about a week and a half of intensive training. It's very like you're there. You're nonstop around those people. Right. And for the full week and a half, all you do is you're immersed in all of the content, everything that you can. It's not necessarily desensitization. It's exposure. It's a boot camp. It's exposure. Yeah. It's letting you know what's out there so you don't blush when someone talks about it. Right. And that's something that's invaluable. And I think more people within the industry, that part is very quick. Now, the actual therapy part, it's like two years. So, if you want to get your graduate degree, if you just want to get a master's degree, if you want to get a PhD or a PsyD, you can go ahead and take the five years. I'm currently in the process of going through and getting my doctorate in human sexuality. There's only one accredited university in the country with a doctorate in human sexuality. There's other ones that are unaccredited, but there's only one in the nation. That's how brand spanking new the field is and how influential voices now can be in it. Mm-hmm. If they decide to take that step. Right. Now, even people like... Right. Even people like Kelly and I, would it be beneficial with our backgrounds in porn, would it be a good week and a half course? Because I'm thinking I would love to do it. Would you have any interest? Sure. Where would you find this to take this course? You can get... There's trainings all around. It's called ASECT. That's the government... Or the... Not the government, but the organization that governs over the sex counselors, educators, and therapists. ASECT? Yeah. A-A-S-E-C-T. ASECT. Can you write that down, Stevie? Yeah. And you can find training through their website. Yeah. Personally, I went through one that's through Sex Coach U. The person who runs that is my old professor from my old graduate program for human sexuality. She liked... We had a great rapport in the class, and I wanted to go further and study with her. Right. So I found somebody very good to work with. And this university, what university is it that you go to? Chicago School of Professional Psychology. That's where I... That's the one where you... Well, Chicago. That's where I got my therapy stuff. But then I went and got the sex education stuff on top. And that's where you're going to be? The one that has the accredited... That university? Yeah. The Widener University is the one that has the accreditation. I got my master's, and now I'm going for the doctorate. Wow. Amazing. Good for you. Yeah. Good for you. We're going to listen to your show on playboyradio.com. Cleo and Leo. Cleo and Leo. Where'd you find that? IMDB. And it was A-A what? A-A-S-E-C-T. ASECT. S-E-C-T. Oh. ASECT. We're going to take a short break. In the meantime, I want everyone to go over to... TheScreamingO.com. Tell them that Ginger Lynn sent you. Put Ginger in the offer code, and they will take very, very good care of you. One of my favorite toys is the mustachio. Check it out. 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What day of the week is that? That is a Thursday. That is a Thursday. And you're not going to be here that day. That's the Thursday you're not here. Oh, fuck. I'll have to listen to it on my podcast like everybody else. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You give me a rundown later. See, I got you some really good guests. And that's the one day that you can't be here. I keep doing that. No. I know. Damn it. But right now, we've got a really good guest. We've got Dr. Sam. Oh, shucks. Dr. Sam. Now, you've been talking about sex the whole time. And I feel very bad for you. Oh, fuck. Because you've been here for a long time. It's such a burden, right? No, and you haven't seen any titties. So, I just wanted to give you a titty. You know, I really missed that titty. It's been almost a year since I've seen those. Yes. Here they are. Getting the girls out. Giving a little. A little jiggle going. A little jiggle. Wait. I can wiggle better than I can jiggle. I'm not very good at it. You don't still have the Hitachi around, do you? I do. It's on the top shelf right there. Oh, my God. But I'm not allowed to use it. We have used it many times on this show. I'm sure you've burned a couple out, too. Oh, I have. I have. Yes. Oh, yeah. We've been jigsaw for that, too. I have a great story where I was in Australia, and I put it in the wrong current. Oh, jeez. And the thing blew up on my hand, and the spark went out, and I got burned on my hand, and it was just like it was the opposite. It was the opposite of an orgasm. Oh, jeez. Hitachi horror story. Yeah, right? From the crypt. You had to be really horny to plug it into the wrong outlet. Did you know? No, it was a no-brainer, not thinker. Yeah. Well, I was using Hitachi, you know? Brain dead from the beginning, from the get-go. Sam, you get inside deep inside a lot of people's heads on a daily basis. Yeah, I try. I try. I try. If I'm doing my job. If I'm doing my job, I am, yeah. You are. And so we want to get kind of deep inside of Sam. Yes. Do you want to show some- Did you bring lube? Do you want- That was sexy, huh? Oh, yeah. Well, everything coming out of your mouth is just sexy. I think so, too. Baby, we don't need no lube. Oh, I've got- She'll do it dry. No, I've got my tongue. I've got my lips. Wow. Wow. I can feel the saliva. He wants to leave across the table. Come on. The saliva's just coming up as I'm just thinking about it. I would be able to take such good care of you. Oh, I'm sure. And this is the first time we've even been around each other since I've been single. Oh, my God. That's right. You've always had a girlfriend. Yeah. Oh, this could be dangerous. This is a little dangerous. I'm whipping my tits out. Show me your wiener. Hello, camera. I was about to. I was like, I see myself in the camera. I'm like, wait a minute. Time out. Pull that bad boy back in. Different show. Yeah. I was like, off the air. Off the air. I can look under the table. Okay. Yeah. I'll pick up the table. Oh, my God. He's great. He's going to whip it out? Just keep it where the camera can't see it and I'll just look under the table. I'll wait until I can actually stand up. It's just chilling. It's just in its normal comfort zone right now. I don't want to disturb it. Otherwise, I'd be adjusting all day. Well, let me give you the first question that I was going to ask you about. About sexuality and your own preferences and what you do. Have you ever gotten naked in front of someone and then regretted it? No. Never. Oh, wait. No, wait. No. My ex-girlfriend. Yeah. Five years I regretted it. No. No. Never, actually. Every single time I've been around anybody naked, it was an awesome experience. Right. Or if it didn't qualify as awesome, it was at least good. It was a good. Right. It wasn't premature. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't super disappointing or anything like that, which would be, that would be the bad experience. Is there premature nudity? If you prematurely get naked and they weren't ready for it. They weren't ready. That's what I meant. Let's say. Oh, like just drop trowel and they're like, wait. Yeah. Yeah. You start pulling the buttons off and she's like, wait a minute. You just bought me a drink. I'm sorry. That does not deserve naked behavior. No. No. I've never been in that position. If I have, I would tell you for sure because I'm sure there would be a funny story associated with it. But yeah. I can't say I've ever been in that position. The only time that I've done it was actually on stage performing as a stripper. And when you're a stripper, you're under black lights very often. And I did not do the pussy check before. Oh dear. And I had toilet paper stuck to my pussy and I, I did some move and I looked out and there's like my pussy's glowing blue. You didn't use that and make it seem deliberate. Like my pussy's in flames. Oh, I licked my finger and just, I, you know. I put my finger in my mouth and then just rubbed it off. And I don't know what I did with flicked it on somebody. I don't know. You usually have to charge extra for that. Right? I sold it. Special effects. Dr. Sam, we have another call for you. We have Bona, Mona on the line. Hi, Mona. Hi, Tinder. Oh, you have a sexy voice, baby girl. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Oh. This is Mona Wales. Is this Mona Wales? Yes. It is Mona Wales. Mona's on. Yes. Beautiful girl. Hi, sweetheart. Hi, darling. I didn't know you were going to make it today for sure or not. No, I absolutely, I absolutely would. It's a busy week with Folsom and everything, but I couldn't miss it. You made time for us. Oh, I'm so glad to hear that. We have Dr. Sam in studio with us as well. Thank you so much for being here. Welcome. Because I got your text and I didn't think you were, the way I read it was wrong. And you are awesome. All right. Yeah. I'm glad to be here and awesome. Hi, Dr. Sam. Hello. Hi, Mona. Where are you right now, Mona? I'm in San Francisco, California. San Francisco. What are you wearing? I'm wearing all black. All black. Are you getting ready to go out for the evening? Do you have something sexy lined up? It is a sexy, sexy week here in San Francisco with Folsom Street Fair. And I've been tying people up all day long. Oh. What is it? Folsom Street Fair. Mm-hmm. Which is it? Tell us about the Folsom Street Fair. Well, we are doing a huge open house at kink.com and we are teaching bondage classes for the next three days. Bondage classes at kink.com? Mm-hmm. At the Armory, we're opening up this big building and we're filling it full of kinky people and lots of rope. Now, they don't open up the Armory very often. I've been lucky enough to be to a couple of their events. They're fucking amazing. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Where can people ... Now, if it's open to the public and it's going to be this week, it's starting when? Tomorrow? It is starting tomorrow. Okay. So, where can people go and find out more information about the fair? Bondcon.com. Bond ... E-O-N-D-C-O-N.com. Bondcom.com. Oh my God. And what are you going to be doing when you're there? I'm going to be demo topping. Demo topping. Oh, okay. I love that. I love that. And what is topping? Topping is when you sexually dominate or restrain or somehow get the one up on your sexual partner. And are you going to be doing this with men, women? Do you have your subjects picked out ahead of time? Because I'm going to volunteer Dr. Sam right now. I love my partner. He's newly single and he's very cute and I'm thinking, you know what? Get one up on him. Get one up on Dr. Sam. Absolutely. I think I'm due for him. Absolutely. I think I'm due for a gynecological exam. Oh. Well, he may not be registered for that, but he'll do it anyway. It doesn't matter. I can play one on TV. What I can do, I'll even help. I'll come in. Mona, you lie down and- And she'll put you in the stirrups. I'll put you in the stirrups. And then instead of putting the, what do you- Speculum. Speculum inside, I'm going to take my first two fingers on both hands, put them back to back. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK The whole fist. You know what? I would love to fist you. I will take, all right, you know what then? I'm going to take those two other fingers out, and now I've got the fourth of my right hand, and my thumb is going to slide all the way deep up inside, and I'm going to, just once I get past your G spot, I'm going to curl my hand up so it's in a fist, and I'm going to start tugging a little bit at a time, pulling and pulling and pulling, so that my palm of my hand is pulling on your G spot, and I'm going to do that until you fill my hand with a cup full of your juicy, wonderful G spot juices. It won't take long. I'm gushing already. All right, girl. Oh, you are so fucking sexy. What's your website? MonaWales.com. MonaWales.com. And Wales is spelled? W-A-L-E-S. W-A-L-E-S. Mona, how long have you been doing this? A year and a half, but I've been a professional. I've been a dominatrix for three and a half years. Beautiful. What makes a dominatrix professional? How do you go from... I make money. I can't bring you to the profession when you're making money. When people pay you to do it? Now, how do you practice for something like that? Because, you know, I'm a sub. I do top from the bottom, but when it comes to what I really enjoy is I want to be on the bottom. And my mandarin... OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. Oh, most pro doms. Can you get a little bit closer to your phone, sweetheart? We're having a little bit of... Yeah, of course. Most pro doms are turned out by other pro doms, which is to say you're taken in by an already established dom and tossed the rope, as it were. And the internship with another dom. Yeah. You know, that's definitely the way to do it. I've had one experience where I'm so not the top when it comes... I mean, when I'm with a girl, if you don't take control, I will. If I'm with a guy, if you don't take control, I will. But I prefer not to. And I remember one of my first jobs my agent sent me out on, it was when I was brand new in the adult film industry, and I never got... It was the first and the last I was ever sent on like this. What I was supposed to do was go over to this guy's house, and I was supposed to beat his balls while he recorded it. And I'm like, all right. And I remember walking in between the house, down this little side walkway, and getting to the back, and I had to step over dog shit. And it was a little bungalow in the back. And I went in, and I've got this... You know, he has his whip, so I'm kind of... I don't know what I'm doing. I'm smacking his balls. He's like, harder, harder. And so I do it a little bit harder, and I was so timid about it. And there was nothing dumb about me whatsoever. And finally, he's like, no, fucking whack my balls. And I did, and he screamed and yelled and asked me to leave. Don't give me what I want. I guess we were done. So that's my experience in the dom world. So I'm glad that there's a safe and healthy way to learn how to do it. Now, if I wanted to come and see you, is there a way that I can make arrangements for you to dom me? Well, I am, right now, I'm specializing in cyber domination on kinklive.com. So I can hold you in chastity. I can force you to light your ball hairs on fire. Any number of things on kinklive.com. Now, is toasting your ball hairs, is that a popular one? Sounds like a thing. Oh, I love making men stick their dicks in alcohol and take a flame to it. No! It burns at a very low temperature. They won't hurt themselves. Really? The alcohol burns off really quick. But what percentage alcohol? Because when we were on the road, I had to mix it. So it was a certain percentage, so it wouldn't burn hot. Right. What type of alcohol and what percentages? I usually suggest rum. Oh, rum. Oh, rum. Oh, alcohol. Okay. Not rubbing alcohol. Oh, okay. We were doing rubbing alcohol and mixing it. No. So you put... Wow, that sounds really scary. Oh, it's scary. But, you know, they're caught in their own hands. So they're the ones doing it to themselves. And if their power of suggestion is that strong... Oh, my goodness. What is the most bizarre thing that you've ever had anyone do? I mean, lighting your ball hairs on fire, that's right up there. I've never heard of that one before. I've done... I've done... I've done a lot. The most intense scene I ever did was with a very old man. He was 97 years old, survived the Holocaust. And he had me tie him up and take millipedes and put them all around his genitalia. Now, millipedes are the ones that are... Safe. Yeah, the ones that are non-poisonous. Yeah, centipedes are the poisonous ones. Millipedes are the safe ones. But they're still fucking scary and gross as shit with... Mm-hmm. Because if he was on the brink of death, had this big fear of death after surviving the Holocaust, his penis no longer worked. And so Freud would have a field day with this one. Wow. Wow. And so his penis never got hard. Oh, well, you know, he was in his late 90s. Well, I don't know when he was excited and... Oh, absolutely. And men without hard penises can still have erections. I mean, still have orgasms. Okay, orgasms. They still have orgasms. Oh, so he... Okay. Now, do you... In your... What's it called? Cyber domination? Yeah, that's mostly what I do. I have very, very, very select clients at this point. And are your clients... Are they allowed to achieve orgasm at the end of the session? Sometimes they're allowed to self-release. Right. But not often. That has to be earned. Wow. Wow. Now, what about couples? Let's say that... My boyfriend and I wanted to be cyber-dominated. Would you tell him... Would you two be able to dominate me together? Absolutely. I specialize in groups. I can have 16 people in my chat room and have one in the corner jerking off, the other one looking at pictures of his mother. Oh! It's the option for them to live. Wow. You're an amazing woman, Mona Wales. And a multitasker. What is your website? MonaWales.com. MonaWales.com. Is that what you said? MonaWales.com? MonaWales.com. Oh, we're losing you. I think we're losing you, honey. Did you move someplace? I didn't. Let's try again. There you go. Okay. One more time. MonaWales.com. M-O-N-A-W-A-L-E-S.com. MonaWales.com. That's what we got. And what is your Twitter? And my Twitter is at MonaWalesXXXX. And you can find me on KinkLive.com. Well, I think I would like to come and play with you. Now, when I come to be dominated, do I do it by the minute? Do I do it by the quarter hour, by the half hour, by the hour? Because for me... It's $9.99 a minute to be topped by me. And you know what? You're worth every penny of it. Thank you, Ginger. Absolutely. Now, so if I put a credit card in, because my biggest fear in being dominated by you would be that it would run out in the middle. I'd go, you'd go, oh, your 15 minutes is up. No, wait, no. I'm not done yet. I'm going to take your bank account and no more for you. Well, I guess you have to come with a full bank account. I'll just... So as long as my credit card has enough money on it, I can keep going. Unless she's a money slave and then it's a good thing. Okay. Well, it sounds like a blast. I would love to be dominated by you. When are you coming down to the Los Angeles area? I am not sure. I think I'll make an appearance at Sanctuary LAX this session very soon. That would be wonderful. And Nina Hartley was just there last weekend. Sanctuary LAX. Was it last night? No, last night. Oh, it's last night. I thought it was tonight. That was last night. I'm all confused. Oh, wait. It's Thursday night. That's tonight. It's tonight, I think. It is tonight. Yes, it is. It is. Sanctuary tonight with Nina Hartley. Well, will you please... Call and let us know when you're going to be in town and maybe I can talk you into coming into the studio and dominating me on the air. It would be my pleasure. Oh. That sounds like a yes to me. That's a Thursday show cut in the works right there. I'm thinking that would be fabulous. Thank you so much for calling in. I know that you've got a really crazy busy schedule and I really appreciate it, sweetheart. My pleasure. All right. Thank you, Ginger. Thank you, honey. Bye-bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. I love her. Man, she's amazing. Wow. She really knows what she's talking about. Oh, yeah. Dr. Sam was saying they're nodding sagely at the various things she was saying. I'm looking over at him. He's going, oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That makes sense. Oh, no. There's so much within the BDSM community and there's so many different things that go under the umbrella of BDSM. Everything from breath play to you had actual pains. You talked about it. Beatings on some guys' balls. I've heard it. I've heard stiletto. People like being stomped on their balls with a stiletto. Oh, yeah. All the way through. Looking at pages of your mother? Yeah, absolutely. You nodded at that one. Yeah. Yeah. There's a certain amount of people out there who have associated and they've tied their own personal shame about sex into their arousal for sex. Wow. And a lot of times they may have been shamed by their own mother, for example, if they were jerking off in their room and their mom walked in. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. kid found themselves getting off to that. And now for the rest of their lives as a grown man, they have to have that as a part of the... Duplicated. Yeah. They have to have that level of shame associated with their orgasm. Wow. That's a lot of work. It is. And for pro-doms, they have to be very versatile, very flexible. They have to be willing to do... And specific. Yeah. They have to be willing to do so many things. And I've worked with and I've hung out with a lot of people who are pro-doms and I've heard stories from everything from actual pain and cutting and things like that to piss play, shit play, stuff like that. Hey, don't be knocking piss play. No, piss play... Just touch on gender's... Just watch it, mister. Hey, I used to work with you in the studio. I know all about that stuff. No, but there's people that pay two grand to have a girl take a dump on them. Two grand? You know that? Two grand. That I'm not really in... That's a house payment. Oh my gosh. I'd jump on that in a second. Two grand? You would pay or you would do it? I would do it. Oh, okay. No, but... I don't know if I would do it. But no, that's... I'm kind of thinking I have a line there. Now, if you picture it... Somebody write that down that it needs to go in the Guinness World Book of Records. Ginger does have a line. It's not so much the delivery of the shit. It's what happens afterwards that usually... Oh, right. The shame, the rubbing it in. Yeah. Right. Oh, there's more? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, absolutely. It just doesn't magically disappear. Yeah. It's on you. What do you do with it? How do you feel? What about the smell of it? I vomit. I gag. That's extra. No one's taking a dump on you, but someone who wants a dump tank. Somebody who wants that. So they rub it on their bodies? It would be a whole experience. Yeah. Again, the smell, the weight of it. I mean, you're getting into specifics here. So do I eat corn? I mean... No, he's... You guys who want lumpy shit, some may want diarrhea. I mean, really specific, right? Well, I'm not that attuned to how many people... I'm just using my imagination. I'm pulling it out of my ass. No, I've just... That's good. You can put toys in there and put them out and everything. Just make it fun. I just heard the going rate for taking a dump on someone is about two grand. Okay. On that note... But there's so little actual orgasm involved in it. They usually don't... And Mona was saying, very few of the people are actually allowed to bring themselves to orgasm. There's very little actual sexual contact between the two. Where is the satisfaction? Where does the satisfaction come in? Shame. Shame. Some people associate sexual pleasure with that shame. I am such a piece of shit that I can't even come. I have no business coming. And guess what? There's nothing wrong with it. The way that it is... No, I'm not saying there is. I'm just... No. But that's what they're thinking. I would love to come and I would just be so sad if I never could. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would be a very... But if you got off even more, it would make you more excited by not coming. By not coming. You never come to the conclusion, but you're completely heightened. You are so turned on. It's a mental orgasm. Absolutely. I would come anyway. When I'm that turned on... You can't stop her, folks. I'm one of those people that I have dreams a lot about sex. And all I do is just push my pelvis, push my clit against the sheets and I come. I mean, I don't have to do anything. I don't even have to touch it. I just... Just do one little hump and I have an orgasm. Yeah. You're a lucky little bitch. I... Yeah, I am. Go to the screamingo.com. We'll be right back here on Blame It on Ginger. Don't go anywhere. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. And as the rhapsody subsided, Dewey-eyed and thoughtfully spoken, she confided her misguided plan to me. And she smiled like a child, and she said, I want to live a life of sin. I want to be like ginger and lin. La dee, la dee. Surrendered to the boys and lies within. I want to be like ginger and lin. La dee, la dee. La dee, la dee. She'd always been a wandering vine. She grew up fast and filled out faster as she soon became the master of the finish line. And while she lacked sophistication, there would be no limitations to the lengths of deprivation in her prime. She said, I'll be the bluest movie queen. I'll live a life. I'm so divine. Just sipping wine and blowing lines with Charlie Sheen. I'll be in all the magazines. They'll tell me no one's looked so fine in 69 since Tracy Lord's was sweet 16. And she smiled like a child when she said, I want to live a life of sin. I want to be like ginger and lin. La dee, la dee. Surrendered to the boys and lies within. I want to be like ginger and lin. La dee, la dee. Well, she can take it like a champ. I want to be like ginger and lin. She'll be the world's most famous. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. I want to be like Ginger Lynn. Stevie, have you heard of condoms? Yeah. Do you use them? I got these. I got chlamydia and gonorrhea orally. So it wasn't through intercourse. A lot of people don't know. Stevie, have you heard of condoms? I have. For your mouth? And when I got gonorrhea, I had about six of them in my pocket. I just didn't use them. You couldn't give a blowjob with a condom? Fuck yeah, if I were out there. Oh, yeah. There's no way I would be blowing freestyle anymore. In my past, I've seen women fasten condoms very securely with their mouth. Yeah. Fasten very securely with their mouth. Yeah. Yeah, there's just, but is there, Dr. Sam, do you know this? Is the clap called, is it gonorrhea? Chlamydia. Is it chlamydia? Chlamydia, yeah. The clap is chlamydia. Okay. So that's what it, it doesn't sound pleasant. And then I tell people about it and they're like, don't tell me about it. And then they go have sex without condoms. And I'm like, excuse me, there's chlamydia and gonorrhea. And they're like, no, you're messing sex up for me. I don't want to know about that. And I'm like, wow. People will be messed up a lot longer if you don't do something about it. And a lot of people, when they get those symptoms, especially guys, they're so afraid to go and talk to their doctor about it because it is such a sensitive subject that they end up letting it linger and linger until it's far beyond. Passing it on. Yeah. And they've passed it to other people and they end up having more and more damage done as a result. And they can be asymptomatic. So they can have zero symptoms. You might not even feel it when you pee. And you can still be passing it around. So how would you know? Get tested. You have to get tested. They used to put a swab. It was, I hated it. They put you, they grab your junk and they put a swab into your reba. All the way in. Yeah. And they watch on a watch. They sit there and I think every 15 seconds they twist it. So if you're in the BDSM thing, you're going to love this. And they twist it because they need to get the skin cells or something. And then they pull it out. That's what really hurts is when they pull it out. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. So they start with the small one. And then they move to an even larger one. Once they've taken all the moisture out. So it hurts even more. And they put it in and do the same thing. But now they've changed it. Now you just have to pee in a cup. But in the old days. Well, you know what that sounds like? And Dr. Sam, you know what I'm talking about. In S&M, they have these rods. And there's an actual word for it. Sounds. That's it. And they each get bigger and bigger. And you inject into the. The penis. It's a lot sexier and hotter than I ever thought it would be. We had Mr. Steve and Jimmy Broadway. When I did my old show for Playboy. And we had a day where Jimmy came in. And he brought a set of sounds. And the first one was probably about the size of a Q-tip. And then it went up to bigger than my pinky. Yeah. And what he would do was open up the tip of his penis. And I have a little fetish. I love to lick that little pee-pee hole. I love to stick my tongue in there. Nick freaks out every time. But I just. It makes my pussies throb. My pussy throbs every time I stick my tongue in the little pee-pee hole. I don't know why. It just does. But anyway. What Jimmy did was he laid there. He spread it open. And he put the smallest one in first. And he let the weight of the sound be. Suck it in? On its own. That's how it got deeper and deeper and deeper. And that you could literally watch it go down into his penis. It was fascinating to watch. And then he got to a bigger one and a bigger one. And as he was doing it, it was really. It got more difficult for him to do. Not necessarily because of the size of the sound. But because he became turned on. And if your dick is hard, you can't. It's not the same. It doesn't work. It's got the curve going. It's got the curve. Yeah. Yeah. So you can't drop it in. But it was one of those things where I sat there. And I was probably biting my nails. And it was so fascinating. It was not. If my man would let me do it to him, it would turn me on. I would totally do it. Right. I would completely do it. But we were talking prior to the break about a couple of different things. We were talking about the Hitachi play. And then we got into what our favorite. Breath play or air play? Breath play. Breath play. Yeah. And what is breath play, air play? Cutting off air supply, making people black out or getting close to blacking out. Under the heading of edge play. Yeah. Which takes you right up to the limit. Yeah. But some people, and I've heard stories and I've seen women and men. Both who have, and this is guys who actually, you know, like David Carradine, auto erotic asphyxiation. Right. When they're by themselves and rope around their neck and their pants are down and they get, that's where they find them. But if you're with somebody else, I've known people who actually wanted their partner to choke them out into unconsciousness as they had an orgasm. So the problem with that, while it is very erotic, the orgasm is very intense. It's also really dangerous. Dangerous. So you better have some. Thank you. So good training and being able to revive people in case, you know, just shaking them isn't going to be enough. Wow. So there's a lot of. You need to know CPR. You really, you know, I actually, I don't recommend anybody try this at home. It's not something that you. Absolutely. It's very dangerous. People die all of the time. Well, we just had a fantasy earlier about it. We did. And where I, and because it is one of my fantasies. Kelly wrote this wonderful erotic story that we read. We've got a segment called Kelly's Corner and she writes erotic. Erotica mixed with, with horror and they're just amazing stories. And I die while being choked to death by the tinker tailor with a, a measuring tape while he's fucking me in the ass. So I have my last orgasm as I die. That's pretty intense. So, so, but in real life, the way that I found, because I love that play, it is dangerous. It is scary. It is scary. But what my boyfriend and I have found that the way that we do it, um, in the tinker, tailor story, I die on my stomach where I'm being fucked in the ass. Now I've never been choked out from the back, only from the front. But what we do is I will ride him and he will put his hand up in a cup shape and I put my neck and I use my own body weight. So I am the one in control. Lean into him. I lean into his, into his palm, the palm of his hand and cut off my own air supply. And he knows when I'm about to come and he'll push a little bit harder. And what? What we do is I have my orgasm while I'm blacking out. And do you black out? Yes. Not all the time, but I always get at least where I don't know what's going on and I have to be slapped back. If it doesn't go to that point, I haven't gotten there. So you could actually choke yourself out to a bad place. Just you into a hand. Oh, absolutely. That could be dangerous. Absolutely. Yeah. You have to really be, you have to be with someone that knows what they're doing. And CPR. And CPR. And also make sure. Make sure that the person who's doing it isn't actually crushing the trachea. Right. Go ahead. Make sure you're actually pinching off the carotid arteries. You're not doing some actual physical damage to it. Right. So it. The blood to the brain. Yeah. You need to make. Not the crushing of. Exactly. You need to make sure that you know what you're doing and how to revive somebody. Without it, don't even think about trying. No. No. We don't recommend that at all. Yeah. No. Not at all. But this is one of your turn ons. Oh, absolutely. Now, are you the choker or the chokie? Chokie. I, I, that's my personal thing. I, I, I, that and I like getting bitten. But. You like getting bitten? Yeah. Really? Where? Arms. Yeah. Arms? Yeah. Not your, not your, not your nipples. Just, just your arms. My arms. Of all places. Everybody has their own. What happened in your childhood? Not a thing actually. Giant mosquito bites. How many times have I told you? For some reason, there is, there's nothing hotter for me than to have someone bite in and actually leave bruising for me. Hickeys or biting? Biting. Biting. Not actual like bites, but that everybody has their own and your entire body can be considered an erogenous zone. Right. It just depends on, you know, some people like the back of their knees, the back of the neck. So one girl got off by me just rubbing her ankle. Her ankle? Huh. I knew a girl who liked her breasts bitten and I, she was just a regular girl and when I saw her, she would show me her breasts. She'd be all look and she'd have her bite marks all over it. Yeah. And she'd freak me out and they were bruised and I'd just be like, ah, but she loved it. I like my pussy lips. It could bite anywhere. My, my, my outer labia. I love to have them bitten. I love to have my ass bitten. I love biting and I have to be very careful because I am a biter. I know. My breasts got work over. That was really nice. Yes. Kelly's come over to our house before. Actually, even on air, you've done that. I've done it on air too. Yes. I know. I can't help myself. It's, I, a woman is so beautiful. A man is so sexy that I just, I want to devour. It's, it's biting. It's licking. It's swallowing for you. It's all of these. I am oral. I want, I want to, I want to, I want to feel your flesh in my mouth. I want to bite you. I want to feel. David Cronenberg of you from the fly. Okay. I had a friend who just did that. She was in the middle of it. And she bit. This guy. And he full on stopped having sex with her and punched her dead center in the face. Yeah. She wanted it. No, she didn't. No. I didn't know how kind of edge play that was. Being punched in the face. That's a little intense for me. I'm not going there. The ultimate edge play. No, slap me in the back. Yeah. He did some damage, but he was not into the biting. So, and she just bit him lightly and he just stopped and just clocked her. I'm thinking there's a communication problem. There's a lot of communication. Exactly. That's something that is key to every great BDSM relationship couple. And actually it's the key to every damn relationship is good communication. And the reason why BDSM couples tend to be really, you know, as far as far as security goes and as far as communication goes, they actually are better than most than vanilla couples. Yeah. Because they have that deep level of communication. They're not hiding. They have to. They have to for each other's safety when they're engaging in some of these activities. Right. And that forces you to be honest in probably a lot of aspects of your life. Absolutely. And, and, and if you're honest, if you are into the BDSM world, it's going to carry over into your, your regular vanilla sex that you have as well. Not just your personal life, but, or not just your, your communication on a speaking level, but it, Nick and I communicate about sex before, during and after. Except for last night. And last night was one of those nights where we. Yeah. We were still communicating. We just, I walked into the bedroom. He was there, he was ready, took his clothes off, laid down, hard dick. I took mine off, climbed up on top and we just fucked. There was no talking, no nothing. It was just, we just fucked. And then. Unspoken communication. Unspoken. And he came inside of me and it was one of them. And for me, that's kinky because I'm always, we're always so naughty and nasty that if we have just, just fuck. No talking, no nothing. We just put the dick in and just fuck. And it was just perfect. So, but, so we were communicating in our own way. If we hadn't spent the time together that we had and opened those lines, it just makes all the difference in our sex life to the point where I can feel comfortable being choked out and I can be comfortable with him grabbing by the hair, shoving me down, forcing me to suck his dick. I know we have a safe word. We have, you know, I've never used it, but there it's there. Yeah. I've never heard it. I've never heard it in the middle of the night. No. Stevie spends the night a lot. What is it? Rumpelstiltskin? Rumpelstiltskin. Oh, it's the same one. Okay. Same one. Yep. Kelly, what's your, what's your kink? What's your real, your, your, your, like Sam just admitted, I mean, uh, breath play, air play is, is, is a big one. That's pretty cool. I've got a lot of ones that I've tried. They're still in my head. They haven't been acted out. Right. Okay. I have to say something. It's just, I have one that's like really, really, really good. Yeah. And he touched, you know, the millipede thing. Oh yeah. I have this fantasy. I have had it for a long time since I was a kid about insects being on me and crawling all over me and then crawling inside me through my vagina and filling me up. And just, uh, the concept of insects crawling inside me is such a turn on. Now, okay. I just freely admitted that. That's so fucking, no, thank you. And that has to be, there has to be a word for that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And I just freely admitted that. That's so fucking, no thank you. And that has to be, there has to be a word for that, right? I'm not away. Insecticide. Insecticide. Insecticide. Insectophilia. Insectophilia, baby. No, I'm sure there is some kind of, I'm not sure what the name of that specific paraphilia is. And I would never act on it, but I mean, I wouldn't go as far as putting the millipede, but yeah, that's okay. I did something kinky once. That's fucking cool. Okay. Like that? Well, I just thought I was losing my mind. First of all, let me just thank Kelly for sharing that. Absolutely. That's a really cool book. Thank you. You're welcome. You know, I don't think I've even told boyfriends that. No, and you've never told me. And those are scary things. And we're friends. Yeah. And for you to be able to share that with me, I just wanted to say thank you. Like I said, I haven't told boyfriends that. Yeah. And there's some part of me that's going, ew. Things are moving around. That's usually how a lot of kink starts. A lot of the, you know, they're like stuff, ew, ew. Yeah. A lot of it starts with stuff that is immediately flashes in your brain. This isn't right. This is wrong. But there's something appealing about it. It's a little degradation. It's a little bit of degradation. Yes. I feel. Okay. Another one I have real quickly is being fucked, blindfolded by old wrinkly men. And it's that kind of like it's, it's some people that would be spit on or something. I have this whole thing where like I deserve to be fucked by an old wrinkly man. Old wrinkly man. And found out. Afterwards. Like my blindfold. And it's not a young man. Oh, so you don't know. I don't know it. But. Oh, I kind of like that one. Okay. So you're giving me more for my own spank banks. And she'll remain firmly in my head. She may have to set, Ginger may have to set that up for you one day if you're ever at a place just blindfolded you. I have a surprise. Take Polaroids of it. Show me later on. And I'll be like, oh, I'm going to take these in the bathroom and jerk off. Oh, God. Oh, my gosh. So I did this oral session. Somebody I didn't, I didn't really know. And they threw the condom. It was kind of nasty. And I was like, still turned on. So I went ahead and I got the condom, tied some knots in it, threw it in my pocket. And I got home and I was still so turned on. I got it. I washed it. I washed it off because I was like, it was on the ground. I had to tie these knots. Stuck it in another condom and tied it up again. And then I stuck it up my ass. And I had all these knots in it. And then I was pulling on it, but I had to kegel on it on each knot so it wouldn't come out. And I sat there and just jacked off and pulled each knot out. A used condom up your ass. No, it was the used condom was inside of a new condom. But it's a condom. But it had been washed. Right. But still, that was turning you on. But I was thinking about what had happened before. Oh. And it was like such a hot thing. And I thought, I've lost my mind. I'm doing some weird, stupid shit here. I'm sitting over here. I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm turned on. I'm a bisexual woman. And I'm turned on at the thought of you jerking off with a used condom up your ass and pulling the knots. That's inside of another condom. That's the condom. Knowing that it's safe and clean. It's sanitary. That's the important thing. Because I was freaked out about the germs. But I still had to do it. And I was like, it made me crazy trying to figure out how I was going to do this. Yeah. How am I going to do this though? It was the feeling of reflecting back on that sexual experience. That was the kind of. That was the get off point. It's a similar thing with people who like biting, like bruising. Yes. And then feeling the bruise the next day. And see it the next day. And then that's a turn on. Wow. Just touching that bruise is an immediate turn on. Can you get excited the next day seeing bites on your arm? Absolutely. Can you jerk off to it? I have. You have? Okay. I'm sure I have at some point. Everybody who's done this has had some. Residual. Well, no. You have to have some, you know, sexual freedom. You have to be willing and open to discuss. And do. You have to experiment with these things. Right. And you find what you like. You stick with it. And whatever you don't like, you never have to do again. Exactly. And if you can find a partner that enjoys the same thing, that's even better. Dr. Sam, thank you so much for coming on today. It's been my pleasure. It's playboyradio.com. Yeah. Playboyradio.com. It's going to be Sex Super Friends. And we're working on another one called The Couch. The Couch. Super Friends. With a comic book, right? Yeah. Exactly. We will definitely tune in. And I've missed you. And it's wonderful to see you. Thank you so much for coming in. I love you, darling. I love you too, baby. Thank you all for listening. Thank you, Kelly Nichols. You're welcome, baby. Thank you, Stevie. Thank you. Dr. Sam, we'll see you again soon. Of course. All right. Have a great day. Bye. Bye. Bye.