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Thank you. all of a sudden they got these this huge amount of money coming in but there wasn't any education on how to handle that success and how to handle that money so when you have somebody that's that's um a lot of times from the the lower income and all of a sudden now they're very very wealthy the first thing they think is i gotta buy a big house i'm gonna buy a big car i'm gonna have you know people over all the time doing this stuff and they dwindle it away because they don't know how to handle the success and fame or they get involved in things they shouldn't be okay yeah go ahead but is telling and i guess that's what his point is that my old neighbor is telling maybe there's a young black kid a 16 17 year old kid who's got some pretty good athletic ability and maybe he's capable at that point of maybe getting a college scholarship but going nothing past that you know not being able to get that 100 million dollar contract or you know um i guess that his point is that there's this you know or if you could say around in the black community that okay it's either all or nothing you know it's not you can go get a college degree you can be Get connections through your athletic ability and, you know, get a great job. You know, even if you're not going to go to the pros and, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if you get a degree. Right. People, you know, nowadays, a lot of companies won't hire you unless you have some sort of a degree. Right. Yeah, I see what you're saying there. But the colleges don't, for the athletes that are there, I don't think that they promote trying to get a degree. Nor do I think that the pros do either. There's too many kids that are drafted straight in, you know, in basketball. You can go straight from high school straight into the pros. Actually, you can't anymore in the NBA. It's been the last person that was allowed to do it was Andrew Bynum. Oh, did they switch? They stopped it. But they don't have to get a college degree. No, no, no. Actually, they only have to be at this point right now one year removed out of high school. Right. You don't even have to go to college. So that's what I'm saying, that to me, if you've got a degree going to a college, you should have to finish that college education. You're being paid to go there. And they shouldn't be able to. They shouldn't be able to draft you out of that because, you know, they're going to make the quick buck. But are you going to be able to live off of that? But see, one issue in relationship to that is how the NCAA exploits athletes. Right. You can have a coach that can make $30 million and the ones who create the product and all that kind of stuff. Are making nothing. Yeah. They're suffering. But getting back to the point when you talk about athletes and entertainers. I don't see that as reflecting the black community at all. So what I was bringing up was that a lot of money is made there. You know, if you want to take success as making money, that's where you see, you know, to me, I think in the proportion, when you put it on down to people that are very, very wealthy, you know, you have to put a good part of that wealth comes from the entertainment and the athletes that come down through there. You know, you do have people. You have people that are in a professional field, you know, that are accountants, that are doctors and stuff, but not to the same proportion as what you have for the sport. Can you elaborate more of what you're saying about you don't believe entertainment and athletes contribute or represent the black community? Because just look at the figures and look at what's happening. Majority of the black community is suffering out of jobs, et cetera, like that. See, I think the beginning. The problems for the black community started with probably Brown versus the Board of Education 1954 when they brought in integration as a concept. So you can just look at the figures, jobs all over crime, the number of business that the black community had. And integration was the worst thing that ever happened to the African-American community. Because, see, I think up until that time, slavery had forced our economic system to be like a poor economic system. We have a poor economic system now. When I say a poor, poor ethnic economic system, most of you are ethnic. Everybody have an ethnic community, but the African-Americans. I know, but I mean, we've had this conversation before, but I think the reason that is, is because we. Are considered Americans. We're not considered African-Americans. We were born, most of us, right here in America. We were brought up in America, doing America, following. We know the rules. We should know the Constitution. I mean, we're brought up like that. But so what you're saying is, is that Nigerians have a little African community over here somewhere. And they feed that community. They grow that community. Jewish people have their own little communities. And now Mexicans. Well, let me tell you what I'm saying. No, what I'm saying is this. And one of the first person who really tapped into this was a professor at the University of Michigan named Harold Cruz. He wrote a book called Bluer But Equal. It was the first book he wrote called The Crisis of the Negro Intellectual. And when he pointed out what was happening with the African-Americans. And he was talking about the African-American leadership. But what he pointed out is that as far as an economic system that we live in, we live in a plural economic system. Plural ethnic economic system. And what I mean by that is that every one of your ethnic communities, right, have strong communities. And then you got to overall what I call the shopping mall community. Where everybody mingles. Right? The only community in which the African-American exist in or have any kind of impact in is that secondary community. They don't even control their own community. See? So we have to look at that. So when you can't create. What we're talking about now is black failure, Jewish success. Right? Which I think is a great topic. And we should examine why. Why is that? Why is that? Why is that? Why is that? I think one of the reasons I always thought that the Jewish community was so strong is historically they've utilized the economic concept of tithing. See? And so just about every community or nation that they were going over a period of time, they raised to the top. Because they tithed. They would take 10% of their income and they utilized it for the good and welfare of the rest of the Jewish community. Right? And so that's why they're so strong. And so that's why they're so strong. And so that's why they're so strong. See? Now, tithing didn't start with the Jewish community. It's an old ancient concept. Probably started with the Babylonians or something like that. You really think the Babylonians? Yes, without a doubt. That's when you call the Babylonians by the correct name. See, Babylonians is really the Kushites. See? That's the origins of the Babylonians. And you trace them through history. Probably the origins of capitalism. Code of Hammurabi. You know? That laid it out. But what I'm saying, when we come back, and that's how I come back and say we trace it. We look at what happened from the Emancipation Proclamation all the way up to Brown v. Board of Education in 1954. And you look at the state of, you look at how many business we had. How many, look at our entertainment. We had a national company. We had the Lafayette Theaters. We had movies. We had business. I mean, we didn't have the problem that we have now, unemployment. And seeing what happened with Brown v. Board of Education, we gave up that. We gave up our whole ethnic community to try to pursue a fallacy. And what is that fallacy? To merge into what we call the mainstream society. And what we don't understand, you know, the whole concept of immigration. You know, every immigrant that came over. They had an ethnic community that they built up. See? And they could exist in two communities. But when you look at African American, we don't even control our own community. Because we were here. It's like we didn't come from anywhere and have to build anything. I mean, most of us are born into poverty and then we have to. No, no. See, you have to go back a little farther than that. We created a modern capitalism with slavery. Because we spent almost 400 years of free labor. To build up what they call modern capitalism. Now, when you say we. A descendant of slaves of America, African America. That's what we're talking about. I know, but you're not talking about black people created that. Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Slavery created modern capitalism. Oh, yeah. I know that, but we didn't create slavery. Well, I think also what it is. Say it, say it. I'm just saying. I'm saying we were brought over here as slaves. I mean, I'm misunderstanding you. I'm saying. Am I misunderstanding? I'm misunderstanding you and saying that if we didn't do the work, then. I think Melvin's talking about more than before you came to America. Because 400 years ago, the country's only 220 some years old. So it had to be before you even came to America. I'm misunderstanding. No, what I'm saying is that whole Atlantic slave trade created modern capitalism. Okay, say it like that. Because I wasn't understanding the other one. Yeah, the Atlantic slave trade is what the free labor. Right, right. The slave trade is what the slave trade is. Right. And they never redressed that after the Emancipation Proclamation. African-Americans never got no 40 acres and a mule. We didn't get it. So all I'm saying is. Oh, close. Right. And see, one of the things that was always a close, until recently, it was a very close relationship between the descendants of the slaves of America. And the Jewish community. All the way up through the Civil Rights Movement, they've always been closed. See? And it just recently, probably with the creation of Israel, what's happening over there changed the whole dynamics of it. See? But if African-Americans were basically, if they had a culture where they could do something like Tide. Then we would have a, we wouldn't be in the shape that we are now. Not many black folks is going to be tithing. And you know that. Well, see, we can't tithe. I think you want to say. Well, I was going to say, tithing is not part of the Jewish religion. Well, I mean, if you look in the Bible and even in the first five books or the first four books, Abraham tithed. Who else? So the heavy hitters tithe, it's on record in those books. And that's probably. And I think that's what's happening. Yeah. But Melvin was saying that it was something that went on even before that, but it's recorded in the Bible or what do you call the Quran? No. The Torah. The Torah. How do you say it? The Torah. The Torah. Right. The Torah. Okay. Yeah. But I think also with the Jewish community was they always, which I don't see and with the black community, the Jewish community looked after their own. If there was somebody hurting, like what Melvin says, they were there to help their community. That's kind of a blanket statement. I think because there's a lot. Well, there's a lot of people do it, but I'm saying overall, look at a lot of the Jewish businesses and stuff like that, that came in through there. You know, a lot of the Jewish businesses have Jewish people working just in their business. Right. You know. I came out here for a job working 15 years ago in an advertising company and it was, the advertising company was pretty big. It was, I mean, a big for at least a small business, maybe 80 people. And I think 79 of them are Jewish. That's a lot of people. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. They, they, they help where I don't see a lot of in the black community. I don't see if somebody becomes successful, I don't see them trying to grab somebody else. It's the reason for what I just said earlier. See number one, the main reason that you have that like that is because African-Americans since Brown versus Board of Education, we had no leadership like what we had prior to that. You know, where that pushed us as a group phenomenon. See, and what happened, another great book, The Miseducation of the Negro by Eve Franklin Frazier, I mean by Carter G. Wilson. And he talks about that. He explained, he wrote that book in the twenties, right? And he explained that one of the major problems with the African-American community is that they followed, they started all following the concept that W.E.B. Du Bois pushed about the talent, the tent, which was a tied in concept. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. to get an education, they would reach back for the other 90 and pull them up. But Carter G. Woodson, he came out and he pointed out and he proved to be true. He said that this 10% is going to have more in common with the mainstream society and less in common with the other 90%. And that's what I was trying to say, whereas in the black community, I don't see them trying to pull the others up. They're trying to move up and assimilate with the rest of the world. We were kind of talking about Jewish success, and you said you did a little research and you wanted to start from kind of the origin or what you were. Can you? I wanted to ask him something real quick. Ask that. Impossible. So what you're saying, and I'm a huge fan of Malcolm X, actually, one of my favorite historical figures. Are you saying kind of what his whole mentality was before he changed, before he was murdered, was assimilation? Simulation and integration, social integration are bad for the African Americans. Yeah. It's pretty much a fallacy. Brad, can you talk into your mic? Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. You can pull it closer to you. You can pick it up if you want to. Okay. Yes, because I thought Malcolm was right in the sense that integration is a fallacy. You know, since 1954 all the way up to now, the country is probably more segregated than it was then. But he did change his tune, though. Before he was assassinated. In terms of? He was more into assimilation, social assimilation, integration, I believe. Well, Malcolm, when he came back from the Hajj, all he did is begin to practice Islam the right way. You know, up until the time he had practiced as a segregated racial religion. Black Muslim. Yeah, which was a fantasy. It had nothing to do with Islam. So Malcolm, he made it clear, right? When he broke away from the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, and he formed his organization, right? He said clear that, you know, that's why he created two organizations. He created an organization in which those whites that wanted to be involved in could be involved with that. But mainly, Malcolm's whole philosophy comes from the philosophy of Marcus Garvey. See, because his father was a Garveyite. And he believed in controlling the economic life of your own community, creating your own jobs, your own education system. Okay, we're going to take a break right now. All right, it's a time to look at what's going on and where you can get it going on. The best impressions at home. Start with elite furniture for affordable prices. For more information, contact Richard Boyd at 951-214-8555. Drama Stage Qumran has a weekly Veterans Theatre workshop led by Melvin Ishell Johnson and Earlene Anthony. 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Melvin Ishmael Johnson is the inspiration. Yes. So thank you for that. And we also are at Skid Row Studios in beautiful downtown Los Angeles, and we're going to continue our discussion now. And I believe we left off with you, Brad. You were getting into... Why we believe Jewish people are so successful in America. Why you believe. Well, I read a bunch of opinions, actually, in some articles. I would be prone to kind of identify with one, and they talked about... Because of my cause and effect kind of mentality. Kind of based upon the strict teachings of religion back thousands of years ago is kind of why people think that they're so successful, in a sense. Because it has to do with learning new languages, or learning a new language, the Jewish religion. A lot of teachings of it. It's a very diverse religion, so there's a lot of education involved. And also, Jewish people were not allowed to own land in the Middle East. Back years, you know, thousands of years ago. So this might have driven them to other forms of work. Because it's pretty much 90% of all there was, was agriculture. So I would agree with that, you know, when it comes to the strict religious aspect of it, and also being held down and not being allowed to own stuff. And they created a sub-community. And the Jewish community, or even the Jewish culture, is a lot smaller than the black culture, or race, if you want to call it. Mm-hmm. So I guess... Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sephardic. Say that one more time slow. Ashkenazic and Sephardic. Okay. Sephardic means Spanish in Hebrew. And that means that you hail from Spain. But that's not necessarily true because they're basing that upon the Inquisition, which happened in, I believe, the 16th century. So they're labeling a certain group of people, you know, but they scattered everywhere after that point. And they're not just necessarily, you know, half my family is Sephardic. But I'm not Spanish. You know, I'm not, maybe my origin or, you know, some of my descendants are, but I don't feel Spanish. Well, I think, though, if you were to look across the room right here, I'm going to say there's two black men and there's a white man sitting there. I mean, just because, you know, you can't tell by the skin color what your heritage may or may not be. You could, you know, you could be German or, you know, just looking at you or something. How does that translate into American success, you think? I know. I know. You're saying the background and you're basically saying hard work. Pretty much. It is kind of what I, yeah, I mean, but also. A strong family. I'm sure family has a lot to do with it. It's not, you know, Jewish people are, they're not, you know, their divorce rate is very low. You know, they're very family oriented. But I didn't get, Ashkenazic is meaning Europe. I wanted to touch back on this real quick. Go ahead. Because I know you've told me about some other people's beliefs when it comes to Jewish people and their ethnic background. There's Ashkenazic and Sephardic. But yet there's a lot of black Jews, you know, that look just like you or Melvin. But there's no name for them, you know, ethnic wise. They're just. That's jacked up. Right. There's no, you know, they're just black Jews. They're not Ashkenazic or Sephardic. How do you, you know, how do you label them? You know. What is that? Well, they call them. Pelotians. Pelotians. They call them the Pelotians. The Pelotians, the black Jews. But what happened. See, to me to understand this concept, you have to go all the way back to. To the historian Flavius Josephus. With the temple being destroyed. Right. And when he talked about. Wait a second. What did you just say? The second temple being destroyed. I believe in 71 AD. After Christ. After Christ. 71 AD. 70 AD, right? 70 AD? 70 AD when it destroyed it. But you had, because at that particular time, you had a struggle between the Romans. And Romans had conquered the world all everywhere but Judea. And when they came in Judea. Because, you know, Rome being a polytheistic entity. And Judea being a monotheistic entity. They rebelled. You know, and they rebelled. Even before that, they rebelled with the Maccabees. Heading up to that period. But what happened. That first war, 66 AD to 73 AD. Right? And then you had a secondary war. 132 AD to 133. The Maccabee Rebellion. What they called that. But what happened is when most of the Jews was dispersed across a lot of the colonies in which the Rome had. And one of the major colonies that Rome had was in Germany. You know, they had conquered the German tribes by then. And a lot of the Jews went in there because Rome. When they conquered. Judea. Right? They kept the females. Sent the males away as slaves. So they go into Germany. And over a period of time. That's really how the Yiddish language developed. It was a combination of German and the Hebrew dialect or whatever over that period of time. Now that's an important part of that history. Because that's past what had happened with the Messiah. Jesus. Time period. But you did have the whole. And when you look at the Messiah Jesus. You can't view him in relationship to anything called Christianity. Because it didn't exist during that time. Jesus. His religion was Judaism. As you want to call that. And it went into two directions. You know, it went into North Africa. Right? Went into that. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. The reason for that is because you could say the teachings of the Apostle Paul. And the teachings of the original disciples. That went into the North African portion of it. Now, all the way up until the 1930s. You know, the Jewish people became a dominant power. The ruling power in Germany. Probably the most technical nation of that particular time. And, you know, there's a lot of jealousies that caused all of that madness to retake. All over Europe even. Especially in Germany, but all over Europe. Yeah. Right. Vienna. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And as I mentioned earlier, the reason is because they held part of their culture was an economic concept of tides. You know, where everybody else was practicing tribalism, all kind of selfish economic expectations. See? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. into it not only did it allow them to exist but it allowed them to rise to the top of the economic yeah so so what i was pointing out uh getting all the way back to and i wish we had a chance to uh touch on the malcolm x thing because he malcolm x a lot of people say malcolm x was so racist but malcolm x what they were talking about is controlling the economic life for your community creating your own jobs creating your own universities you know taking care of your own and it has nothing to do with what racism or whatever i know but what i'm saying is um at the time they were saying that they didn't want or allow any white people to come into that zone they like who uh malcolm x or the black muslims and that's why they didn't what what i'm talking about you're talking about a community yeah but that was you're talking about that was the nation islam okay now okay but that wasn't malcolm x is malcolm he left from white people i know but that was after malcolm went on his mission to mecca or whatever and came back he had he found out that what what the islam teachings were here was not what was actually going on in the motherland because he saw people of all races and all races islam not based upon the color of a person you got something to say lee yeah uh one i want to ask a question would you allow your son to go on to uh a strip joint in the middle of you know at night a 10 year old kid would you let him go to the strip club in the middle of the night no i would not i wouldn't either so you have to segregate yourself from everybody else because you got the people just come out of slavery man it wasn't that long ago they don't know how to operate yet this is what this is what the animalized i'm gonna want to do he wanted to separate them so they could get them in the right frame of mind so they can go forward well i mean but i mean that's one way of saying it but calling calling them white devils and and preaching that to the world and i mean that's one way of him pillars of him pillars of him pillars of him pillars of him pillars of him pillars of him That's not what he was doing. He was teaching hatred. Now, let me put it some other way. Okay. In every household, especially a black household, you went into in America, right? There was a man called Jesus on the wall. What color was he? He was white with blonde hair and blue eyes. Now, let me say it right here, right? So you got to get out of a mentality, man, because some people just believe. You know what? I sit around people sometimes, and these black people, right? And I notice some strange things about them. The one thing they hate so much, they hate they're not white and they're black. They would love to be white, you know, in this society. I mean, but they have so much fun. I remember when I was watching Elvis when I was just a little kid. Well, I think from what Lee is saying, though, I think that once they went through where they said we're going to get rid of segregation, people just thought that it was going to be like, okay, now we're all equal. Not only just equal to go and do things. Equal social, economically equal for a lot of things. And it didn't happen like that. That's, you know, and that was the misconception on a lot of a lot of the black folks that were coming up or just like. How long does it take for you to figure out it's not that way? You go through Ronald Reagan to Bush, right? The one thing that black folks was able to count on is some kind of a job, something to do. You know, you got to give him something to work with. Right. Serious. So what happened to affirmative action? And that's when your downfall came. Because now. Everybody's on the right on the community tip. Their own community. Like the brother said. Jewish people got their community. They don't got their community. The Latinos got their community. The Asian got their community. Right. But the black folks don't have no community. They don't even have a job. And because of that right there, they don't have it. Now people can. Because I'm for myself. Because I'm for myself and my family. Right. They are first. White families first. Their family. Latinos first with their family. If I got anything else. If I throw you. I throw you a bone. You know what I'm saying? I throw you a bone. And then one other thing that I would like to say. And I want to get back to the point of what happened after slavery. See, one of the things that happened after slavery. Because you have segregation. I mean, because you had discrimination against the descendants of slaves America. And also discrimination against the Jewish American. Yeah. It kind of pushed them to work. And I think that's what you're saying. And I think that's what you're saying. And I guess that's kind of what the title is kind of, you know, it's like Jews. Everybody hates Jews. Everybody hates blacks. And that's kind of, you know, what makes us so different where they're hated. And they are hated. And you know they are. Well, I don't. You don't think they are? I don't think. You don't think the Jews are hated? Come on. Talk to me. By who? By everybody. By everybody. I don't. I don't. I don't. No, you don't. You and our community hate. I mean, you can go out. Everybody but you because I know I don't like them. So it's probably. It's probably what? 300 million people in the United States? 350? Something like that? Look, I'm willing to bet you if you poll to Americans, you're lucky if you have two or three billion people that's going to say, what? I hate Jewish people. Actually. How can they say they hate Jewish people when they. When everybody running around here with a Bible that's based upon the whole culture of the Jewish people. I say everybody, but nobody. People are carrying that book. They don't know what's in it. Melvin, you know that's right. Well, look at Barack Obama's old pastor from when he was living in Illinois as a senator. What was that fellow's name? Washington. Jeremiah, right? Jeremiah Washington. Right. And it's Jeremiah Washington. He did Chicago. Right, right, right. He preached the opposite of what the Bible says, and he was preaching Israel is a terrorist state, not to support them. Mm-hmm. And he was going to. And America's a terrorist state also. He classified as. He. Obama was going to that church for a decade. Mm-hmm. But see, by. And here's where. Probably the only modern, one of the modern person out here that's willing to discuss Israel and put them in a proper perspective. And I think because he loved Israel. To me, it was Jimmy Carter. When Jimmy Carter said that Israel is practicing. This is an apartheid. Wait a minute now. Who can argue with that? By the definition of what South Africa was doing with the majority population in South Africa. And then you have the same thing that happened in Israel. See, now whether or not what Jeremiah Wright said, but when you look at what's happening in Israel today, and I think the worst thing that happened to Israel was the reelection of Netanyahu. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Because see, when you go all the way back to 1947, November 1946, when the UN, right, gave a mandate to that particular area to create an Israeli state and a Palestinian state. The one who I thought made the mistake was not the Israeli people. They had fought to get that. It was the Palestinians that turned down the Palestinian state then. So don't come up with no argument now for the Palestinians. They turned it down in 98 also. They turned it down. They turned it down. So what I'm saying is that when they saying how they define terror, see, and I look at it in a whole different way. I understand, but I think we're getting kind of off base. We're getting into something totally different. And if you could expound on Jewish success in America, okay, you said basically hard work, but can you get back to that? And you said you did a little research, but I just want to hear your beliefs. And what Melvin is saying is valid, okay, about black and, I mean, the man is an encyclopedia of knowledge. Well, we can touch on that later. But I just want to hear from you what you believe in America Jewish success is. Well, exactly what we were talking about before a few minutes ago about not grabbing your own and using them or helping them out. And Jewish people are very big on that. You know, I could, I grew up in a very, very, very Jewish community. I could, if I would have taken whatever route I wanted to take in life, if I wanted to become a lawyer, I could have went to law school, made a phone call and had a job. I mean, of course I'm being, you know, it's about helping your own out, I guess you could say at this point now. But what Melvin was talking about was he shares the opinion of a lot of people when it comes to the temple being destroyed. That supposedly set things in motion for Jewish people, like, you know, because they were forced to become self-educated and, you know, it made them stronger. And okay, now you, you know, that Jesus Christ predicted or, or, or prophesied that happening 70 years before it happened. Do you, do you know that? Yes. Do you know that? Do you do, if you don't, just say it. No, no, no. I do know that actually. 70 years before it happened. I believe that that was written only maybe 10 to 20 years before the temple was destroyed. Yeah, because we got to look at the, the gospels, you know, the, the, the very first gospel. Okay. I know I said that, but I'm saying that because prophecy, prophecy is from God. When it happens like that is from God. Go back. I didn't mean to break that flow. I would agree with what, what, what I, what you said or Melvin said also about, you know, and grabbing, you know, stronger, the second family and more, you know, stronger family, you know, orientation, you know, emphasizing education. Like I was, had to go to college. There was no, you know, don't do it. It wasn't an option. Well, it was an option. I'm free at 18, but even the way I saw it, it wasn't an option. It wasn't an, it wasn't an option for me. I, I felt like I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I felt like I had to, or I wouldn't, I wasn't, you know, I wasn't going to have any weapons in this world, you know. And that's probably something that was instilled in you from an early age, even if you didn't understand why you felt that way, but. It was, but not just also at home, but from my, you know, the community. Okay. And that's what Melvin is saying. We're getting back to that community thing again. It's like, so Jewish success, in my opinion, comes from a strong or foundation from family and good ethics and working hard. At this point right now, yes. I mean, we could, you know, yes. Okay. Would you like to elaborate on any, anything other than that or? No, not at this second. Well, I think I was doing some research on, on the black culture. And one of the things that, that kind of hit me as strange when you had me looking to see about the number of blacks that are incarcerated. Incarcerated. Okay. You know. Okay. Okay. Get off. It says. One in three black men it's projected are going to be in jail sometime during their lifetime. You know, growing up, you know, in a white middle-class neighborhood, jail wasn't even something we talked about. It was like, you know, I never thought that anybody I knew would ever be in jail. I just wasn't something that was there. But when I started looking at some of the stats of what was out there, it said in 2010, all black men were six times as lightly as white to be in jail. So, I mean, it's got a strike against you right there. It said. People of color. And that takes up, you know, the Hispanic, Asian, anybody outside of white. Make up 30% of the population, but 60% of the incarcerated people. Then in 2010, again, one in five black men make up what's in jail. One in 36 are Hispanic and one in 106 are white. So, you know, you start looking at the stats. Right. And to see those are just the results of, you know, cause. They're causing. Infects. Concept. And to me, it goes all the way back to what I said earlier about controlling the economic life of your own community. Starting in 1954. Right. Our leaders, when they accepted. Right. When they accept integration as a concept. Right. That was the downfall of our people because it's a fallacy. It don't exist. Yeah, but it also set the way for laws of. In a capitalistic sense. Right. It also set the way for, you know, laws of equality. If that didn't happen, there would be no laws of equality. Well, the bottom line is that when you look at before then, and you have to ask the question, the major Supreme Court before then was Plessy versus Ferguson. You know, 1898 that brought in the separate but equal doctrine that they lived in all the way up until that time period. Now, I'm not saying that Brown versus Board of Education was a bad decision. But what I'm saying is that the so-called false leadership of the African-American community went in the wrong direction. Right. Because they viewed society as equality. Now, equality as a whole. And then we turn around and we gave up all of our. To integrate into a mainstream society means that you give up your leadership that you have. Yeah. Yeah. We gave up our. We had the baseball team. We had the movies. We had the jobs. We had the business. We had all of that. And we gave up to integrate. And look at the conflict that we caused by trying to go into other people's community and thinking it's their job to provide jobs for us. I know. I understand that. And trying to move into white neighborhoods and they don't want you there and that whole thing. And it's crazy. Okay. But. Why do you think if we had those things. Okay. We had baseball teams. Okay. Now we had a conversation about that. I mean, black people are gifted athletes. And the money that the Dodgers made signing. Well, see, you're looking at what's on the floor. Because, see, when you look at the NBA and all that kind of stuff like that. See, that's the whole misconception. You know, you got 99% African Americans out there playing basketball. And then you got one owner up there that's reaping all of the problems. I understand what you're saying. But what I'm saying. The issue is not the people on the floor. It's controlling the economics that come from this particular product. Who controls that and utilize that for the community? Donald Sterling that owned the Clippers. You know, he got a basically black. Black basketball team. The resources that he make from that. Do he utilize that for the black community? Or his own community up in Hollywood, Beverly Hills, where he live at? See, that's all I'm saying. Who controls the economic life of the community? I understand that. But what I'm saying is that you have, say, back in the day, a black baseball team. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, when the best players got drafted to go to white teams. You still. Had black baseball teams. No. No. I'm going to tell you. No. You're saying. You're saying. But you're just saying. For some reason, they just up and ran away. No. I don't think there was money in there. Let me say this. Let me say this. Because. Okay. When you got the black baseball team. You got more than just the people on the field. Right? You got the people selling the hot dogs. You got the people that created other businesses. Right? I understand that. When they took Jackie Robinson. Right? And put him in the mainstream. That's the worst thing that happened to the black. Community. Because. Not only did it destroy the Negro League. But all of those other business. That was tied into that insurance company. So, every last single person. Start watching the Dodgers. Because. Because there was one black man on there. Huh? You understand what I'm saying? But I think. I think what the problem comes down. Say that again? The Dodgers wasn't the only baseball team. Yeah. I know. And black people didn't watch baseball before Jackie Robinson. Got drafted. No. What we. What I'm saying. What I'm saying is. You're saying that. Just because. Blacks. Integrated to white sports. Black people just up and dropped everything. They owned. They believed in. And what they had. Just because. They're integrated now. And see that. That just sounds a little far fetched to me. I'm just saying. All you got to do is look at the history. Look at the documents. Are there. When Jackie Robinson. Went into the. League. That opened the door. Right. For all the other little stars. That same thing is happening now. They went there. And that destroyed. The not only did it destroy the. The baseball teams and the basketball teams and all of that. But it destroyed the culture that we had. We had our own. Now. Did we have. I know. But did we have the money? Did we have the money to. To keep those things up and running? But I mean even. That. Why did. Why did. Jackie. Robinson. Go to the Dodgers? Why? I mean. Number one reason. Why do you think he went to the Dodgers? Because my man Ricky. He developed the tactics. He understood. He just wanted to develop that concept. You know. He understood by opening doors. Jackie Robinson. Where did Jackie Robinson move to? And where did he take his money after he moved into the white team? He didn't take it back into the community. Yeah he did. Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson. You see Jackie Robinson woke up because he was more of a community man here in talk about solutions. What you giggling about over there? Cause I'm gonna be you. Okay, any last comments? We only got a minute. I had a question before I forget. Go ahead. Especially for you, do you think that there's a difference in prejudice between, you know, somebody who's prejudiced between blacks and Jews? Is there a difference? Coming from the person, no? Because some people believe that disliking Jewish people is a little different. It's claiming more bitterness I guess you could say. Because see, you know, one major trait about the descendants of slaves of America is all the stuff that happened in slavery. Our ancestors did not teach us to hate. Did not teach us to hate. Not all of us. Yeah. I mean, the huge majority of them, you know, don't have that hating. It's not a part of our makeup. I'm gonna go ahead and wind it down since we have seconds. I need to say, we are never more like our Lord and Savior. Jesus Christ. And when we are loving, forgiving, and creating.! Thank you.