Thank you for tuning in. This is Keith Coogan, and you're listening to The Call Sheet here on skidrowstudios.com. What an exciting night. It's already August here in Los Angeles, California. Well, don't look at me like that. It's not June. I can't hear you at all. It is not June. It is August. It's 92 degrees and muggy and wretched out. Dude, if it's August, then I totally missed the show. Yeah, you missed it. We're joined here tonight by, oh, hey, I should probably turn off this. I have the classic iPhone. I'm still trying to talk to some sort of geosynchronous satellite. I don't know. We are joined here tonight by Gabe Romero, a dear friend. He is an actor, writer, director of The Triple Threat, forward slash, forward slash. Thanks for joining us tonight, Gabe. Thanks for having me. Awesome. Hey, this is like NPR. Yeah, good time. I can't hear anything, but that's cool. Yeah. We have been talking about movies, how much we love movies just outside the studio here before coming up, and about how oftentimes studios will let filmmakers take over their credits or their studio. What do they call it? Their slug? Just like the screen card? Yeah, the screen card. And what was it? Harry Potter? Harry Potter would be all like gray and misty. Oh, yeah. Yeah, with Warner Brothers Shield. Yeah. Yeah. And Warner Brothers is now back to being Warner Brothers the studio proper. Oh, yeah. It's still hit show there, three and a half men. Two and a half men-ish. I always say that. I don't know why. Charlie had such a big ego. He was at least two people. Yeah, but he's gone now. He's a man. You know, he came back as Kathy Bates. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Kathy Bates. Yeah. Can you hear okay? Yeah, I can hear you. Okay, nice. Nice. And so, Gabe, just, you know, helping us talk about movies. I know that I'm going to talk about a few movies right now. One I just saw last week. I know it was Academy and I didn't see it. I feel bad at the time when it was coming out. My Week with Marilyn. Oh, yeah? It's now Netflixable. Oh, it is? Yeah, you can get that at home on a DVD. Not now live. I don't think. It's streaming now. But My Week with Marilyn, which was boring. Yeah. That's what I heard. Did you see it? No. I saw it the first time when they made it with Ashley Judd and Mira Sorvino. Norma Jean and Marilyn. Ah, okay. I didn't know. Got the Judds all up in a fuss because Ashley showed off her ta-tas. You got to have. It's Marilyn, man. One of the Judds. That's what she did. Show their Judds. That's right. But that's the one. If you're going to have one of them, it's Ashley. Yeah. You don't want Naomi showing them off. It's scary. So you don't like spoilers. I understand. Well, no. You're not a big fan of spoilers. It doesn't really bother me. Spoilers don't bother me because the ending isn't the big deal. It's how you get there. It's the journey. It's how do you get from where you are to how it's going to end. So I don't care. Dog dies at the end. Oh, well. The boat sinks. Yeah. The boat sinks. Oh, my God. When Titanic came out, I got into such a discussion with a buddy of mine. He's like, are you going to go see it? I'm like, no. He's like, why not? I said, because I know how it ends. The boat sinks. Everybody dies. Like, what do you want from me? No, no, no. Some rich people got out on rafts. Well, my week with Marilyn was a tale by this English guy that I think he wrote the book even after she died. Like, oh, no, there was this time. Yeah. I'm going to tell you the story. I don't know, man. It just seemed like he might have been pretty ancillary on the production of PA basically. Saw her a couple of times on the set. I like the acting coach. I don't know who that was supposed to be. I can't remember. But we have our producer, I think, is hacking into our computer right now. Oh, cool. I'm seeing him do this live. This is fun. Well, we also she was great. She was a little thin. 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And then a couple of times she's in a pool bathing suit and stuff. It's just, it was like this little head. This little 25 cent girl with all this Marilyn the bobblehead. Yeah, they borrowed it from Eddie Murphy. The fat suit. She, amazing though, worked in Wendy and Lucy. I don't know if you ever saw Wendy and Lucy. Her and a dog. You ever see that? In a very, very heavy movie about a girl just this close to homeless. She just got her car and she's taking care of her dog and she's trying to make it, spoiler alert, across the country, you know, home or something. And just on her last leg this and that for enough for gas and this. Yeah. And they tow her car. And then she can't find the dog. The dog to survive. Does she eat the dog? I would think it's worse. I wouldn't have cried as much as if she ate the dog the entire length of the movie. It's short. It's like 82 minutes. Something like that or, I don't know, 79 minutes. That's how long a movie should be. Like, I'm sick of these three hour long movies. No, the rule is comedies are like 82 to 91 minutes and dramas are around 90 to two hours or something like that. No, I mean, give me In-N-Out in an hour and a half. Get a good two and a half hours. In-N-Out, hour and a half. Let me get on with the rest of my day. It's called TV. I see like three movies a week. I don't have time for this three hour bullshit. Three movies a week. Yeah, I guess. I mean, especially Netflix. With Netflix. Ever since they did that and Crackle. And even Hulu has every once in a while some choice. Yeah. Choice films. I was watching Brothers Grimm. Which is great. I'd never saw it before. For some reason, I wasn't into it. Maybe saw a minute of it, you know, or clips. Yeah. Back when it came out. And they give you commercials so that you can like get up and pee and stuff. Sure. And they're oddly targeted. Oh, yeah. I mean, scary. It knows exactly what we buy in our house online. And you can even tell them. Like they have this thing now where you can like customize your commercials. Yeah. And so like you're watching a commercial and you're like, no, I don't use this product. And they cut that away and they send up a new commercial. So it's like... Is this ad relevant to you? Now I have to watch a commercial and a half. Damn. I hate skipping and trying to... I've seen this part or something when I'm skipping and it's like, well, I'm gonna play another commercial for you. Same one we just saw 27 seconds ago. And at one point, I don't remember, it was MTV or some channels are better or some presence on the web are much better and have the experience more lean back and we'll play more episodes. CBS.com is good. We'll keep it full screen. Oh, yeah. Hello out there. If I have to get up because your ad comes on and then it goes back down to a small window after I'd already had it on full screen, I... Stop. Just, yeah. Just stop. No, fix it. Leave it full screen. I don't want to have to keep... I am so lazy in this 21st century life that I lead that I don't want to have to click the maximize button four times in a 30-minute show. I get weirded out on watching television series on Netflix without the ad experience. That breaks the rhythm. Oh, not me. It's been so long since I watched television live. I haven't had cable in three years. I have the rabbit ears. The digital ones now because the old ones don't work anymore. Oh, sure. They gave us a certificate and I went down and I got me a free digital box. But no, I watch everything on DVD. I had to buy a damn antenna to go with it. I was pissed. I almost forgot what... Until Hulu came around, I forgot what commercials were like, man. I'd be like, I'd watch a show and then all of a sudden, these ads come on, interrupt what I'm in the middle of watching? No, this is a great moment. Show me the next thing. What do you think about the new must-watch warning, pirate warning they're going to put on the front of all DVDs? It's additional to the $250,000 fine. They're adding a new one about piracy or something and it's like a minute and a half or something and all the producers and the studios wanted this on DVDs. Is it like the adaptation of Casablanca that's up there now? Have you seen this? It's Bogey and Bergman talking about how bad it is to pirate movies. And I'm like, are you kidding me? Is this Casablanca? You're going to ruin one of the greatest films of all time? Tell me they shouldn't steal it. Tupac's dead. We brought him back as a hologram. We can make whoever we want sell Verizon, okay? You're going to be pushing Coke Zero, okay? Actually, I do promote Pepsi on Facebook and Twitter, so I don't want to... I don't know why I'm such a sellout. I drink Coca-Cola, you know. No, Brothers Grimm. Watching Brothers Grimm, once again, sad loss Heath Ledger. I'm reminded how cruelly talented he was watching that. And I got into it this time. This time, for some reason, my frame of mind, I really loved the story and I loved the fake out and how they were trying to deal with the real thing. Have you seen Brothers Grimm? I have. Okay, so no spoilers. Warning to the audience that doesn't like spoilers. They come across real shit. Yeah. Real witches and real Hansels and Gretels and such. And he's like, well, that could have been on rails or that could have been ropes. How did they do that? Because they're just kind of pranksters, pranksters, pranksters, tricksters taking money from local towns to get rid of their, you know, screaming woman in the night that they've been seeing. Really good and I think it was ahead of its time. I don't know if it made its money. Or did well or what. No, I think it tanked. It tanked. It was dead in the water. Tanked like a Guillermo del Toro movie without puppets. It tanked. But you talk about Heath Ledger, like, I remember 10 Things I Hate About You. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Taming of the Shrew. That's right. That's right. But I mean, like, you got Heath Ledger, you got Joseph Gordon Levitt, you got, like, David Krumholz. Who was the dad, even? Oh, the dad. The dad. Oh, crap. Larry Miller. Yeah. Oh. Larry Miller. Funny, fast movie. Trying to be relevant. Trying to make Shakespeare relevant. I love it. Yep. That was a good one. We were just gonna sit around and go, yeah, remember that movie? Yeah. I loved it, man. Warning, everybody. You could become a victim of a face-eating cannibal. Because apparently, in Florida, just this last week, a homeless man went crazy and ate another homeless man's face on a pedestrian overpass right at the entrance to a bridge. Witnesses calling 911. Cops show up. Hey, stop eating that guy's face. And he looks up and growls at the officers. The zombie apocalypse has begun. And they shoot him. That's what everyone was worried about. They were worried about this. They were like, obviously, duh, look, you're right there, and it's on the news. They made the news now. We've got zombies coming. I'm more worried about the squirrel invasion. All my fans know. But the zombie attack. I'm prepared in the trunk of my car. I have a machete. I have a zombie preparedness kit. I totally do. I have a machete in the trunk of my car. You come in handy in the middle of L.A. Yeah, dude. But do you have food and water medicine? No. No? Oh, we have food, water, medicine. The pack of cards to, you know, play Jim Rummy while we're buried under peat moss waiting for the apocalypse to pass. I'll come over to your place. I got the machete. You got the snacks. We're good. Yeah. Some old, like, Bayer aspirin, I think, we found. We're like, throw that in there. It was like we were just rooting through and cleaning up, and we're like, we'll make an emergency kit. Zombie preparedness. One in the trunk of the car, and one in the thing they say, keep one at work. That's right. In case you get trapped in the building where there's been a gas attack. You could be... You gotta stay in there for two days. Uh... Really? Okay. I think after two days, there's as much gas inside the building as there is outside the building. Yeah, exactly. I hear you. We need ramen again. Shit. That cup of noodles is just, for the fourth time, it's really starting to... And the attribute, and this is not proven, the face-eating cannibal. Oh, by the way, he ate everything but the goatee on the man. He ate his eyes, he ate his forehead, his cheeks, his nose. Now, wait a minute. What's not proven? They were sitting there watching him eat this guy's face. Oh, they shot him. They shot the hell out of him. Yeah. And he was still, while shot, arm and chest, he's still eating the face. Well, yeah, because you gotta shoot him in the head, man. Zombies, you cannot shoot them in the torso. You can't shoot them in the leg. It's in the head. Double tap. You gotta double tap. You're absolutely right. Did you not see Zombieland? I got the one just in case, yes. Those are the rules. Double tap, gotta shoot him in the head. Cardio and double tap. Double tap. That's right. That's right. I've been working on my cardio, running, getting it up there. It's not long I can go, you know, imagining how many other people I have to get ahead of. Yeah, I was saying, I don't necessarily run. I just look around and see who's slower than me. Because, you know, you don't have to run faster than the zombie. You just gotta run faster than the other guy. And then faster than him when he turns into a zombie after you again. Closed spaces is our enemy. And the government's gonna try to corral us all in like the Coliseum. As long as it's not a Superdome. Oh, yeah, no kidding. You know. It took five days to get water to the Superdome. Dude, it's a coastal city. Just go to the beach. No, L.A., we've been through with the riots and the lockdown and the curfews and about that long, what, three, four days, something like that, four-day riot or something. And all of the National Guard here in front of Sears, and in front of Albertsons, and in front of... Were they picking up an extra belt sander? No, they're like, you're not going after the chain. You can go loot Johns, but you ain't looting Vons. Like, okay, enough with the foot lockers. Go over. They're getting their kicks. Go, no, no, no. You're not looting this one right here. Stay away from the banks. Stay away from, you know, and these were complexes kind of close to freeway exits. So if they had to, they could naturally get the fuck out of there. That's right. I mean, honestly. Because that's what you want. Well, really? The people. The people. Are way outnumbered. Yeah. Authorities. Yes, but they have tanks. They have tanks. They have tanks, and they have... You know what? Battering ram. It's like Carlin said, man. Stun guns and tear gas. They have the flamethrowers. We don't have flamethrowers. If we have to go up against them, and they have flamethrowers, we don't have any flamethrowers, we're fucked. Gotta remember to put a flamethrower in my trunk. That's right. It's part of the kit. It is part of the kit. Well, the reason they say, and they don't... I don't know. I don't think they've done toxicology or have that back. They said it's bath salt. Why does a homeless guy have bath salt? Because it is... Like living on the street? You smoke them, and they're like LSD. And you... It... They've had problems with people going psychotic, using their mouth or teeth to bite and hurt people. Their internal body temperature... And they were naked. He was totally naked. Well, if you're gonna... Did I mention naked face-eating man? No, you didn't. You mentioned the face-eating man. You didn't mention that he was naked. Way to bury the... Not even in my notes. I just... Are you making it up? Is this fictional? Totally naked. Because your body heat on these bath salts, if you smoke them, and you trip out, you go psychotic, and your body temperature raises so high that you lose your... You tear off all your clothes. You go nuts. Your brain's fried. You think that's part of the same reason people who drink seawater go nuts? Because, you know, if you're shipwrecked and you're out in sea and you're in one of the lifeboats, they say, under no circumstances at all do you drink seawater. It will drive you insane. And I used to think it's maybe because, like, the salt would dry out your brain and you go insane, but maybe it's the same stuff that's in the salt that when you smoke it makes you go nuts. You will, of course, go totally dehydrated drinking the seawater. I think you can drink, like, five or ten percent of... If you do have water or catch rain, if you really need to have a sip and you're like, but you might have other water resources, you can have a little bit of water because you do need the potassium chloride, where the heck it is, and the salts that helps you retain water. And you need just a little bit of salt when you're dehydrated or else you don't even retain it. You puke it out. You puke out the water. You need a little salt. So if you dilute, if you need to add to what you've caught in a rain, because now we're on a raft in the middle. We missed Fiji. We're fucked. Are you surrounded? Oh, damn. There it goes. Oh, look. All of a sudden, I've changed. I always wanted to visit Fiji. Now I'm not sure First zombie apocalypse. Now we're... Now we're shipwrecked. We're shipwrecked in the middle of the Pacific Ocean with a zombie. In the middle of the ocean. We're drinking the seawater. We're drinking the seawater. We're screwed, man. The sharks are circling beneath us. Zombie. What's to say that the animals won't also go zombie and you have zombie albatrosses on these sharks? Oh, yeah. Did you not see the third Resident Evil? Man, with the zombie crows? Oh, that's really cool. That like... You think about it. Like if they're eating the flesh of the dead zombies, they're gonna get zombified too. They catch the zombie virus. Nice. So now like the sharks are zombies. You got zombie humpbacked whales. Wow. Zombie hyena. A hyena is scary. A zombie hyena. Just fucking blow your brains out because it's... Forget about it. I've read the zombie handbook, survival handbook and World War Z. The oral history of a zombie struggle. Obviously brought back in time by Men in Black. Prepare us. That's right. Truly. Few people have to. Those that are on the ball to prepare and be sucked into this, the shenanigans of preparing for a zombie. They're gonna be easily led later when there's just a few of us left. What is it? The planet is just gonna figure it out. They're gonna be like, oh, we've got your immune system down. Here's a new one. Thanks for coming into this cave. It grows in bat guano. Try it. Oh, yeah. It spreads. It spreads. Oh, shit. And of course, it'll be distributed by McDonald's and Coca-Cola and, you know. Great. Taco Bell. I think that's where the ground zero. Oh, no. In the restaurant wars in the 90s, Taco Bell won. All restaurants are Taco Bell now. You got Taco Bell KFC, Taco Bell Pizza Hut, Taco Bell. So, yeah, Miami. So, Florida. That just explains the naked face eating cannibal. Have you ever been to Miami? You just want to walk around naked. It's so hot. Orlando, but no, no Miami. My folks have a place in Miami. And I mean, it's a nice place. Just don't go outside. Like, stay in inside where the air conditioning is. They have a place there, so they're not stuck there year round. That's right. When do you go to Miami? What, like spring? I go Christmas time. Really? Christmas. Christmas time. Nothing says Christmas like palm trees. We, did you see the bit, or, you know, Lindsay Lohan is playing Elizabeth Taylor. Yeah. Liz and, what was the guy she married like 900 times? Yeah. She's apparently on TMZ. They had her with her haircut and died. Oh, really? And it's up in, I don't know if it was like, they were doing camera tests. Yeah. And paparazzi caught her, you know, smoking a butt outside with her hair up. But it's like this, you know, Elizabeth Taylor's hair color and the length. So it doesn't look styled like Elizabeth Taylor, but see if you can't picture her getting closer there. You see it? Yeah. Eh, it's all right. No, getting there. Because I mentioned if she's supposed to play like, oh, is that? Yeah, it's Lindsay. Dead on. Dead on. That is Lindsay? Was that? It's Lindsay. And then Liz is the other one. Wonder if that was for this movie or something she'd done in a photo shoot a while back and then lobbied with that picture and said, hey, look. Well, let's see. There's, this is a cover she did on Interview. Interview Magazine. Oh, yeah. Looks like the same shoot. They did her eyebrows there too. Yeah, yeah. I like, you know what? Good for her. And I hope that, I think I talked shit about, you know, I made a, like a pool, like how many days into production until it's over. And like, she breaks down. You think she makes it to production? She actually gets there. No, I say good. Thank God a producer took a risk and, you know, she got, you know, completion bond insurance and we're good to go. It's a movie of the week though. They're spending what? Like a couple tens of thousands, tens of thousands of dollars on it. Well, you know what? For as much of a like messed up basket case as she's become, still love to watch her on the screen, man. I still love. When was your last opportunity to do that? I think. With Machete? Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Machete was the last thing I saw her in. Which if you watch really close, you see how much they use a body double. Oh, yeah. All of the comings and goings and ins and outs. And like, I was catching the side of the face that wasn't even her. I was, I wouldn't be surprised if like, they just had to like CG her face onto, you know, Armie Hammer, social network style onto, onto some other actors who could actually show up to work and, you know. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. That's a great. Technique. Also used in Alice in Wonderland. The twins played, the guy that played the Tweedledum, Tweedledum D. No, I, I, I root for her. I hope that she does good. You got that whole child actor. Clue and character. Like the two of you have that whole sort of. Rather she Robert Downey Jr. than Danny Bonaduce. You know what I mean? I really do. I root for her. You know, she worked hard and earned her money. And Mary Kay and Ashley Olsen too. God, I wish they would, you know, stop being grandmas and. Well, their, their little sister seems to be doing well. Yes. Their little sister's knocking it out of the park. Yes. They had that love on like Vogue or something. They have the top Hollywood starlets and there's like three or four on the cover. And then you open up and it, it's a fold out and there's another three or four in the middle. And then another three or four, three different panels as you fold it out. I was thinking what a burn to be one of the girls. That's not on the cover when you're in the fold out part on the inside. Look, no, I'm on the cover. Really? I don't see it on the, no, no. You open it up. And you see like the vanity fair where it's like three folds. Yeah. Like their friends are giving them shit. I'm on the cover of vanity fair. Where are you? I'm six folds deep. It's an alternate cover. They release three different covers and I'm in the one in Des Moines. Awesome. I had, I test. Really? Really high. There's always that burn. I saw one. It was just added one of those folks or whatever. And two models and one was there and the other one was like holding her hand and running out of the shot. And the whole half of her face was cut off. You saw from the ear back. I kind of profile and I went once again, how, how do you do that? And you go, mom, dad. Yeah. I got a modeling gig really big. This was the big, I mean, this is in Cosmo. Really? You're in Cosmo. Ball. Ball. Ball. And here's the ad. That it? Wait a second. That's your ear. That is you. I know that ear. I know that's you. That is you. Congratulations. Great. You were in an ad. Part of you. My mother, if it were my ear, my mother would frame it. My mother would put it up in the living room and be like, that's my kid's ear. That's Gabe's ear. Take old pictures from music and try to match it, cut it out and match it to the face. See? My first on-camera appearance was just my... My left shoulder in a Coast Soap commercial with the school bus driver and all the kids singing the song on the bus. This is like 76. Oh, God. But yeah, it was my first appearance on camera, just part of me. My first on-camera experience was an international Coca-Cola commercial in Spanish. I was like... Yeah. Yeah. Well, because I'm Cuban, so I speak Spanish and stuff. You don't look Cuban. Funny you don't look Cuban. Everybody says that. I am Cuban. Therefore, by default, I look Cuban. Okay. Sure. You're right. Don't let the blonde hair and the red beard fool you. Blonde hair and the red beard. Pale skin tone. I'm not Ricky Ricardo, but I'm Cuban, God damn it. You know, there is an under-representation of all minorities on television and film. A tenth of whatever the real population or position. 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And we promise people. Octomom is now doing porn. Yeah. Got to keep that house payment. But she got 15 now, 15 kids. Eight the first time, seven the second time. What? Yeah. Isn't that... Second time. Oh, yeah. No, she got pregnant again. Oh, dear God. She's Octo-insectomom. I don't even know what to say to that. 15 kids, really? And wasn't she collecting welfare and such like that and a big brouhaha because she was getting her nails done and her hair done. $500, $600 ticket or something like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, it's... Like, who's paying for that stuff? She's like, I got the nice cat food for the kids. No, you know, there's the viral video stars, too. Yeah. I think it's the viral video stars that person for the second that something kind of peaks or goes viral or people email and share and put on their Facebook and, you know... It's now true. Everyone will get their 15 minutes. Like, you just... It's... Since YouTube up the length that you can upload videos now, you can upload 10-hour videos if you want. Yeah, you'll get your 15 minutes. As long as you can stay on YouTube, you'll get your 15 minutes. 100,000 likes, man. What? I mean... The next Bieber. It's become... It's become so digested by me and my brain because I was there from the inception and saw it from day one and saw it grow and, you know, celebrated the anniversaries by adding to the... I did that. I was, like, added to the project and was trying to get up on the front wall of Yahoo with... I mean, of YouTube. YouTube. With my... Yahoo. Do you... I'm so off-tangent, the terrible radio host. Do you use Google or Yahoo as your home page? No. You... I'm worse. I use Facebook. Oh, you use Facebook as your home page? Yes. Okay. And there's almost always a Facebook tab open. I accept that. No matter what I'm doing. I never thought of doing something like that. No. Yeah, no. But then again, I'm one of those guys who has, like, four tabs open at all times. I cannot pay attention to one thing that long. I have to have multiple tabs open. I have two monitors for my computer because I have to be whatever I'm working on and then something goes wrong. I'm playing a movie. Not a fan of tab browsing, but I'm a fan of several windows. This one over here. This one little over here. This one going. This one behind this one. And a little strip of it so you can just click back and forth between your window. Sorry. It got to a point. Like I said, I have to have two monitors now. I can't... One monitor no longer has everything I can look at at the same time. I had to get a second monitor. We are all... Oh, Facebook. Confession time. Confession time. Confession time. I did do some Farmville in the past. I deleted the hell out of that crap. Now I'm stuck doing another game. Which one? Marvel Alliance Avengers. And you... Have you gone to the... Have you gone to the Marvel... The Avengers website now? You can... I think you can win a car or something, but you play this video game and you're like driving one of the Avengers cars. And I'm like, I saw the movie twice. I don't remember them having a car. I remember them having a helicarrier. They had a shawarma. They had shawarma. You know, but... And by the way, if you saw the Avengers movie and you did not stay till the very end of the credits, you robbed yourself. It's hilarious. Yes. But, you know... Well, they... What car? I always stay if I can, really. But I'll check. I'll check online to see if there's like end scene or not. And if there's not, I ain't watching 1,200 names. I'll watch 1,200 names go by. Oops, there's a minute. Which would left column. Yeah, no, no. Up. You know if it's gone. Shit. What did you do? Cell shader. What the fuck is that? What's a cell shader? You know, I should have watched. I should have stayed. I saw Dark Shadows like two weeks ago. I should have stayed to see the credits because... No, it's not that there's something at the end. John... Johnny Depp had to... He had, you know, he had those really long fingers with the fingernails or whatever. Couldn't go to the bathroom. While they were shooting, couldn't... He had to have somebody there to clean him. And I'm wondering what kind of credit you give somebody on a movie like Johnny Depp's ass wiper, you know, Timothy Richards. Like, what do you... How do you credit the guy who does that job? I know it's... In terms of departments, it's under production. Probably a PA. Probably a production assistant because you turn and burn those people. That's what PA turns into. It's like an unpaid intern for everyone out there. A production assistant could be getting money if they're DG. And if they're DG, and have gone through that, they have to build their hours and stuff. So, yeah, they got to do it. But oftentimes, it's not. It's some college kid or something fresh out from Kansas and on a movie set. And you're having them go pick up, like, Ritalin. And like, can you go get my prescription for this? And can he... It is hysterical. After 3 o'clock in the morning, they'll ask a 22-year-old intern, go get us beer. Yeah. Downtown LA, 3 o'clock in the morning. Imagine, you're talking about the phone call for the photo in Cosmo. Imagine that phone call. Hey, Mom. Hey, Dad. I moved out to Hollywood. And I'm working on the Johnny Depp movie. Really? What are you doing? I'm wiping his ass. And what? Quit show business? I want to see that guy in, like, 20 years when he's the most respected director in Hollywood. So how'd you get your start? Well, I was... Well, Dave, I was working as a PA on Dark Shadows. Well, movie making is hard. It's fucking work. The, uh, I do have on IMDb, and I ain't ashamed. I'm proud of an art department credit. And from building sets and cleaning up whatever location to use as a set, making it a set, striking them, addressing them, and, you know, even doing props. We had a total of three people on the crew. And you get 10% of the budget. Yeah. Whatever budget, here you go. Here's 10%. Go do it. Make it. Do it on this schedule, this thing. It was so fucking hard. You're moving every day. Yeah. It's moving. Yeah. Oh, here's the whole living room furniture and this and the bed and posters. Not to mention the camera equipment. Not to mention lighting equipment. And I have no problem with, like, doing the hard work of, you know, I shot my movie last year, my first film. Very excited, you know. And I'm... It's... We had four people on the crew. And, you know, me being one of them. And it's, you know, yeah, I got no problem, you know, being the art director, being the set designer or set dresser, you know, like... But... Wiping a guy's ass. Like, that's just... Cleaning out the inside of Iron Man's suit from the sweat and this and that. Although rarely are they really wearing it. They're just walking around and put the suit on later. CGI. It's pretty cool watching the... Behind the scenes and the tracking of how they do that stuff. Avengers just worked. Just so fun. Well, that's what happens when you put Joss Whedon in charge of something. I mean, the guys... You have to get... In order to make a movie like that, you have to get the biggest geek in town. And that's him. Like, he's... He was perfect for that. You couldn't find... I love... I love Favreau. He's great. But... Everybody... There's somebody better than everybody. And in this case, it was Whedon. He made it feel like turning rapidly through the 24 pages that are in a comic book. And I felt like I was looking at the... I felt like I was 14 again. ...windows down on the rooftops and the way... The rhythm of reading an actual comic book or graphic novel, that's what the movie felt like. And the dialogue. Like, Iron Man has that edgy sort of like, he's a prick. You know? And I mean, that's, you know... That's who Tony Stark is. I did have... I know Iron Man. Iron Man. It's funny. What they... Really, I had that pieces together the other day. They're like, yeah, yeah, Spider-Man. Yeah, yeah, Batman. No. Okay, Hulk. They keep failing at Hulk movies. No plans to make a standalone Mark Ruffalo Hulk movie. Yeah, they do. Really? Oh, yeah. He signed on for two. Really? Two Hulk movies, yeah. Really? Yeah. I continue to put the sound of surprisedness in my voice. Oh, yeah. I had read where there was a... He had commitments for other movies with the universe, but... Yeah, he signed on for another Avengers, and he signed on for two Hulks. Two Hulks. Okay. They're gonna keep trying that until it works. They will flush good money after bad over and over again. But they pulled out characters that weren't necessarily on everybody's radar. They made it mainstream people like Iron Man, people like Thor, even. Who knew who, you know... Well, for a long time, Thor was really very secondary. Like, you think the Avengers, you think Captain America, you think Iron Man. Thor was kind of... Captain America is a good example of bringing something up to date and making it relevant for us in a great way. All of them had their great intro movies to bring us up to Avengers. There was a lot of storytelling to get to that point. Yeah. And would it probably be easier to do another one? Probably easier to weave down. Okay. We know how you're gonna do this. Top it, of course. Tough to top it. Well, I think if they give it some time to breathe, like, let this one sit in our consciousness for a while so that we get excited about the next one, not like, oh, here comes the new Avengers movie. Like, this one, I think it worked because they took the time to make all the other movies first. They took time to make Iron Man and Iron Man 2. They took time. They took time to make Thor. They took time to make Captain America. Like, they built us towards... Isn't Iron Man 3 coming up next and already on schedule and being, you know, put into production for a 2013 release, I believe? I want to say, is... Is it being directed by Favreau? Remember, Sam Jackson signed to nine movies total. Shane Black. Shane Black is directing this one. And Favreau will be back as Happy. As Happy, yeah. And that's as deep as we can go into comic book nerd talk, I think. Oh, dude, I could do it all night. But as a movie, I mean, the money is tremendous. It is truly an event movie. That's what people pay for. And that's what I would go to the theater. That's what you pay for and go to the theater. Oh, you pay for a ride. My Week in Maryland? Netflix. Avengers? Yeah, no, there are definitely movies that you go see in the theater. Like, you just, you got to. Do you think they'll ever do? I remember in the 70s, they had these movies that were trying to do TV kind of stuff on movies. So it would be... Oh, gosh, what was the name of these? Sorry, I'm 42 years old. Memory's gone, of course. There was one television one where... It was just a series of vignettes. It was kind of like... Are you talking about like Four Rooms? Yeah, it was more like a Kentucky Fried Movie. Okay. Telephone. Not telephone. Oh, man, I can't remember. They had the freeze gun at the family at breakfast. And they, oh, dad, oh, shut up, kid. Freezes him and the kid freezes. The whole... There was movies that were trying, like Kentucky Fried Movie, that were kind of saying, hey, this was kind of a TV thing where we'll take a variety show format or episodic thing. Even MASH is a good example. The movie itself was episodic and worked great. Yeah. Actually becoming a series. Do you think they'll do that with internet, short attention span theater, YouTube stars, that kind of stuff? And ever, would you ever sit in a theater to see something like that or the best of... I don't think so. The most watched of... Year or... No, and I'll tell you why. Because I can sit at home and watch that for free. Why am I going to pay what will inevitably be $25, $30 for a ticket to go see that at the theater? You know, I'll go see... I'll go see The Avengers or I'll go see Transformers or I'll go see one of these movies that has huge scope, that has, like, you have to see it on the screen. That I'll go see. But... Or Men in Black 3, which was awesome. Yeah. You know. But if I can see it at home and it's, you know, four minutes long, why would I want to sit and watch 60 of those? You can at El Cid on Wednesday nights. They have the short film competition. You set me up, you bastard. I'm sorry. That's bad. I think Inland Empire is playing currently at the new Beverly Cinema. Their calendar changes every two, three days. Right. They're just finishing up a David Lynch. They played, like, eight or nine of his movies and tapped it off. Capped it off with Inland Empire. Indecipherable. Couldn't get through it all. Watched an hour and a half of it. My brain was trying to... My brain exploded. I couldn't... Trying to process just the first hour and a half. And actually, first time I watched it was probably about an hour I got into it. Second time I watched it, I probably got an hour and a half into it. And still my brain fried. I cannot finish that film. It's too much of a mindfuck. He's really pulled a number on us with Inland Empire. If you like Mulholland Drive or his more Twin Peaks-y kind of stuff, where you're trying to kind of figure it out and piece it together and good puzzles of what does that mean? What was the symbolism of this and that? Inland Empire. And it's great about storytelling. And are you familiar with the story at all of Inland Empire? No. No. They're making a movie where the story itself is cursed. So they're telling a story about the original curse. But anytime you tell the tale or you become those characters, you're cursed as well. And the curse is you don't know whether you, you don't know whether the character you're playing, you don't know whether the original person it was based on or you don't know if you're homeless in the street. And out of your mind. They take Laura Dern through each of these doors in and out, over, back and forth, back and forth, barbecue in the back. You don't know what's going on. And then they have the sitcom family with bunny rabbits. They're humans with huge life-size bunny outfits walking around with a laugh track like the Honeymooners with no dialogue and a TV playing, lighting them up. And they're using that between it and it. Just you telling me about it makes my head want to explode. No, and it's about her being how you give a little piece of yourself when you're an actor and you give that character and you go and sink into that character that sometimes it can be something like the Joker for Heath Ledger. Jack Nicholson warned him about that. There's movies that can truly turn, you know, people nuts. I don't think Jack Nicholson recovered from shooting The Shining, to be honest. And I had experiences on like a couple times I broke out on a set. You broke out? Well, if the past tense of speak is spoke, then the past tense of freak is spoke. And I broke out a couple times. They dumped, I was on Super Train, failed ABC series. The train with an elevator and a pool and a bowling alley. Oh, it was great. ABC TV. This was before Disney bought them. Yeah, and it was a brat on the show and the conductor's grandkid or something. And we're just having all sorts of, you know, fun and pranks and ha ha, getting everybody. They, they get us back and at the end, they dump a huge bucket of mustard, mayonnaise and ketchup on us through like a door. No, it's above the door and we come through and we get it dumped on us. Well, they had to dump, you know, paint or finger paints or something on us, you know, but it was not fun. I hated, I cried and the bucket actually came down and was full and didn't tip over. It just came straight down full of this stuff, probably, you know, 10, 15 pounds, whatever. The door height on my little eight-year-old shoulders or whatever. And dislocated my shoulder. Crumpled like a cheap suit. Hit my shoulder and dislocated my shoulder. Pop. Oh, ah! We, we got to do it again. What? Why is it, why is it not now the Coogan Broadcast Studios? Like, why is it not like, why isn't it CBC? You should have sued, you should have sued them, man. They were, get off the lot. Go. I'm sorry you're hurt. And we say, okay, is the nurse okay? He's, oh, it looks hurt. It's red. They're broken. Not broken. Can we use them? We can't. We can ask? Okay. Can you do another take? Well, I'm crying. I can't move my arm. Fake mustard and mayonnaise and ketchup in my hair in the, you know, trailer on, and it's on the old MGM Sony lot. Right. Oh, no. We're in the same soundstage they shot Hook. We're in the same soundstage they put the pirate ship in Goonies, all that good stuff. And, yeah, and I took a shower in the little shower in the dressing room and, fresh change of wardrobe and an hour later or whatever, we're all back on the set to do it again. This time they got it right and had some monofilament in the bucket actually poured on us. I bawled like a baby. And then a few other times I felt in the middle of doing something, I was like, I, wow, I'm glad they're paying me. Not much, but I'm glad there's some, you know, recompense. Some compensation. Yeah. One particular where there was glass and fake blood and the location was, pretty real and had rat droppings and all sorts of, smelled like ammonia in there and everything. And, yeah, danger. Absolute danger at one point. It was like, you know, fake blood and broken glass all over your face and in your eyes because they hit a light. There was like speed rail on the camera or whatever. And they, it's going handheld and he goes up and he pows, hits a big fluorescent light and it goes pop over the whole set when we're all covered in fake blood. So little bits of glass and, I breathed all this powder from the light. It was good, man. It was like bath salts. I wanted to eat somebody's face, man. Hey, I'm kind of hungry now. Start stripping off all my clothes. They went, that's a wrap. Literally, the moment it happened and they looked down and the glass everywhere, they go, that's a wrap. Just go clean up. We're done. Everybody go home. Figure out how to, we finished with inserts in the director's backyard. Yeah, no, and that was one time I was like, wow, this is really, really, a hard way to make an easy living. Really is. Sorry, that joke fell flat. So these viral video stars better be ready. We got seniors react to, have you seen these? No. Seniors reacting to, you know, other weird viral videos. So they show seniors and they show Rebecca Black or they show Diane Cass. Oh, yes, I've heard this. Kids react to, they also do kids reacting to this stuff. And I saw, I heard one, like two old Jewish ladies watching a porn or something. They were watching LMS. I'm F-A-O. I'm sexy and I know it. Okay. And they're like, really? His package is hanging? Okay, I wouldn't dance like that. An old man is like, this is ridiculous. Oh, this is kind of interesting. They're like, rubbish, this is awful. And another woman's like, kind of dancing around going, okay, this is nice. I could do it. I could like, I could dance to this. Or they're watching Nyan Cat where the Pop-Tart cat with the rainbow trail is across a night sky and this sped up Japanese loop song. And the little pause going along. It's a 10 hour video on YouTube. Oh God. A 10 hour video of this over and over. They have an hour version. They have a five minute version. They have a 10 hour video. Watched millions of times. And the kids reacting to it are pretty great. And they did show both the seniors reacting to it and then the kids reacting to it. Oh my God. YouTube, go to it. It's this website, www.youtube.com. You as in you. You as in you. You as in you. Make something and put it up. If you're lucky, you can get on Tosh.0. Or now what's happening lately, a trend on actual, I'm so pissed, daytime, Good Morning America. ABC, good morning everybody. Hi. We're with, whatever, what's the early show or something on CBS they call it? Oh, CBS Good Morning. It's even, good morning. Hi. We're gonna just spoon feed you some mainstream media crap for three hours and you're gonna take it. Some of it might be might resemble news. Don't be fooled. Any sister company that is involved with a book or a movie will probably, our guests, yeah, it's all connected. We're not gonna really tell you that, but it'll be hidden in the credits in the end. Thanks. I also noticed they do give more time to movies that tend to be under their own network and favorable kind of lean. It's there. There is not objective. I'm sure there's memos. Don't bag on this movie coming out and not bag, but do you think they ever get told? It's not free journalism. This is television news magazines, right? Absolutely. Hello, entertainment. It's entertainment. It's not news. And they bring on the reality show people that are getting their 15 minutes. Now they're bringing them on to these good morning shows. Well, Survivor has been on CBS Good Morning every year since it started. They, actually, no, I'm sorry. The first one that counted the votes is, in the place, gave the guy a check, Richard Hatch. After that, they started counting the vote. They do the show and then they come back to Hollywood for, Hollywood or New York, for the recap. And then, you didn't get the check that night. You had to stay in town, go to, you know, the affiliate, do Good Morning CBS, and that's where they give you the check. Bastards. Yeah. That's how they, that is great dish right there. Thank you for that. That's how they keep them from running. Running off to Bermuda instantly. Yes, they postpone it one day. They're gone. Poof. Sorry, you gotta do some morning shows. Oh, yeah, no. And, I was watching an interview with one of the winners and they're like, you know, you do that great show and then you do the reunion show and then, you know, right after the reunion show they wish you'd do like a press junket immediately. You just won Survivor. How cool is it? It's great. I can eat food again. Like, I'm not starving. They feed them on that show. No. Yeah, they cook everything twice. I saw, um, they'll show them cooking food and they take that away from them and then they give them food just like what prepared by the crew. I heard this tip the other night. Yeah? I am dishing really hard on reality show TV. Well, I know that, I know that they suffer, a lot of them, a lot of the folks who go on the show suffer from post-traumatic stress. Like, one woman, she was voted off, she went to the hotel room and in the middle of the night she woke up and was trying to make a fire with her shoes. And so, like, she had to see the psychiatrist and the psychiatrist was just suffering from PTSD. It's like, how'd you get your PTSD? I went to Iraq. How'd you get yours? I went to Afghanistan. How'd you get yours? I was on Survivor 16. Like, like, you're in the group. How stupid do you have to feel sitting in the group, you know, for PTSD? I want a car. But, no. And the winners, they have to stay longer. Somehow, they do have an iron constitution. They really are reconciled. Oh, yeah. It's fair to say. You'll be able to keep the energy up, not eat the food, deal with the social aspect and, you know, I couldn't do it. From being cranky. You think you could? No. You think you could? I'm saying you could. 39 days or whatever it is? You could not. I, I'd like to think I could, but I'd be voted off like in two, they'd probably hold an early tribal council just to get rid of me. They'd be like, this guy is so fucking annoying. We've decided to come early and get rid of him. Like, we're not supposed to be here till tomorrow. Between the teams, the other teams. The other team actually is even volunteered to put one of theirs up. We can even it out. It's all cool. We've all signed off on it. Get him out. Like, you could be, no, Richard Hatch did that. He sat naked in a freaking tree right at the beginning. they're all doing work and he sits up. He's a court, you know, what is he, what he did? He was some sort of headhunter or coordinator or something. Yeah, no, he was a corporate, like a corporate coordinator. He, he did team building exercises. He did, you know, the guy was, he knew what's social. He sat there, took higher status, sat up in the tree, didn't do any work, watched them. And he goes, I'm just watching, just seeing what's going on. You should be doing that. That should be good. Of course, three people got to be on that. Great. No, you guys doing great. No, I'm tired. It was rough coming in. Sure. And they're like, what an asshole. And then the next day was his birthday and he goes running around naked on the beach in his birthday suit. They already hate him. And there's Richard Hatch running, flopping around on the beach. And they're, and yet, it was being, so above the radar, you stay. Most of the winners of these shows are below the radar, below the radar. Yeah, they made a couple of good deals here. They finally did a great betrayal and they win. Right. And they're moderate at best on the physical challenges, all that stuff. Yeah. They made it through. But he won by being a total douche right off the bat. And it worked. And it works on Big Brother too. Dr. Hot, or Dr., what's his name? Dr. Nick, Dr. There was a winner and he was a doctor. He didn't really need the money. Right. He's like, no, I'm practicing. Oh, cool. Ordering. He was really young. He's like, yeah, already all set up. He won and he told them, he goes, I'm winning this game. He goes, here's how I'm going to do it. I'm going to do this. I'm going to lie to you and I'm going to lie to them. He would tell them openly and it was so obvious. Nobody busted it off. I always think it's funny. Like you get to the last one and people are pissed. They're like, you lied to me. It's like, yeah, that's the game. You know, and especially the people who are like, I'm a huge fan. I've seen every episode. I love it. And then they get pissed when they get screwed over. It's like, dude, you signed up to play a game. Only one person can win and it looks like it's not going to be you. Just deal with it. Be an adult. Be a human being. You got outplayed. Sometimes runner up that gets like a hundred grand like on Big Brother. I think it's like a, it's a million for the winner. A hundred grand for second place. Fifty for third. Twenty-five for fourth. Like, it's like, it's a scale for everybody else. Well, you go, yeah, it goes down, you know, if you're there for three days, you get, you know, an inner tube and a pair of flip flops. So, I just want to remind everybody with them bringing these everyday normal people on these mainstream media shows and like, hey, we're being special and out of the box and we're bringing, you know, chocolate rain on and we're bringing, you know, Kelly shoes on. Letterman was doing it when he was on another network many years ago and he had, you know, stupid human tricks and he gave them their time. Just as much time as the top star that was promoting the big movie. That's what, I think, made Letterman, especially early Letterman, so charming. We're getting close to the end but I want to remind everybody and thanks, Gabe. Thanks for coming out. Hey, it's my pleasure. Ladies and gentlemen, Gabe Romero. We hang in there because I have two things I want to tell people. One, I want to tell you, go to YouTube. Shoot a video. Put it up there. We're adding 15 hours a second, I think, a video right now on YouTube, something like that. Add your voice. Speak your mind. Create something. We're going to shoot the shit out of something. And we're going to shoot it on an HRC. No, I'm kidding. An HTC One. No. Go to, there was a big ad where they were like shooting movies on an HTC on a cell phone. Oh, yeah. And they're like, oh, yeah. Hey, if somebody wants to give us a free camera to shoot, that'd be awesome. Free camera. Just contact skidrowstudios.com. Go to YouTube now and upload a video. Become a star. And everybody else, I've got this on Facebook and this is, you know, allegedly a fraud, but I hit up for these fake like red carpet invite companies. Like, come and go. It's red carpet. It's red carpet. Like, who else are you mapping? Why am I invited? Who are you? Like, but I'm getting raw emails to my regular email address from the same company. They aren't approaching me like I've walked a red carpet before. They're like, hey, do you want to break in to the movie? Come on, red carpet. We'll arrange you. Join this service. I'm like, what a fraud. Watch out for that and watch out for anybody that comes and says they can improve your IMDB rank. I got approached first generally in Facebook, then finally direct messages and said, we can bump your IMDB rank. We can put you in the top, this top, that top. There are companies. There are companies that do this. I'm already in the top 2,000. Are you? There are companies. Now, there are companies that sell likes and what they do is some of them have like actual people, but some of them have like Facebook bots. And so what you do is you pay something like $75 for $75 for 10,000. And so you order a certain number of likes and they'll go to your page and they'll like your page. It's a con. The true democracy, the internet, the ability, to be able to take on even Warner Brothers and make your movie. It exists there. You can go to SAG Indie. You can get contracts. You can make your movie. You can download the whole package and see what you got to do paperwork wise to actually sell something and have it legal. I encourage people to kind of look into that and create. Thank you. Thank you, Gabe. Thanks for coming out. Thanks for having me. Thank you for listening. Ladies and gentlemen, go to youtube.com and put your piece out there. We want to hear it. Thanks so much for tuning in. Have a great night.