Swinging lifestyle with Nina Love

It's now. You were too early. I wanted to be early. Why? And the reason I wanted to be early is because... I just think it's cool. It's cool to be early. No, because you're trying to be unique. It is so much better to be early than to be late. I'm sure many people think that of their period. Greetings, everybody. An all earlier time, strange, fluky Easter. I bet you they're glad that this is early and not late. Of the love bite. I can make zombie jokes. I can make necrophilia jokes. Stop it. I can make resurrection jokes. No. What shall we do? I know that 8-inch cock wants to make second coming jokes. What? Morning wood. How did I miss that? I don't know. He texted me this morning. It was funny. Anyway, so we're here and not... I'm sorry? So we're here and not just here because we're fucking cool, but we have a guest. Yeah. And we're having the guest talk about something we're not very familiar with. Not at all. Swinging. Yay. And we're not talking about dancing. Swingers. You know, it's interesting because, you know, there are several circles in the sex umbrella. You know, BDSM and swingers, very rarely do they cross over. And in the swinger circle, from what I understand, the BDSM crowd has a bad name. And in the BDSM crowd, the swingers have a bad name. And then you've got this whole polyamory sect where these people that are devout polyamorous frown upon swinging as if it's somehow defiling their concept of polyamory as opposed to poly... There's another word, sexery. Somebody tweet me and tell me what the fuck I'm supposed to be saying. Okay. I really wanted to clarify this because I actually know swingers that are really nice people. Well, I mean... And I don't want to... As opposed to what? Cannibals? Evil swingers. Well, you know, they could be cannibals. I don't know what they do in those parties. So we're here to clarify. And we have the fantastic Nina Love on with us, or just Nina. Either one works. And she is not just a swinger. She's really pretty. But she's like a swinger queen. Shut the fuck up. I don't know all about this. Yes, from what I understand, she's a swinger queen. She's got some, if I am correct about this, some very strong status in a swinger group. I guess you could say that, yeah. This is my understanding of the Nina. I don't know what rumors you heard. It was through telephone. So definitively, I got the sixth generation. So it's diluted. So at this point, you are cannibals. Anyway. I like medium rare to rare. Well, you cook them. Oh, sure. Why not? Because in all the movies I've seen, they just eat them raw. Except for that one movie where they cooked them in stew. It's just healthier. All right. I'm good with that. Okay. So welcome, Nina. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome. So first, tell me, just briefly, tell me what swinging is for somebody you may not know. Gosh. Well, I would say that swinging is just more of an open sexual lifestyle to the point where, well, majority of swingers are couples. So it gets to the point where you, in a relationship with your other partner, trust each other enough and are wanting to explore enough to want to share sexually your partner with somebody else or have somebody join in with both of you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Most of the time it is just sex. Obviously in the swinger world and in any world you gain friendships. You gain, you know, some sort of relationships. You gain an emotional attachment. But you don't go in looking for love. It's understood that you either are in a loving relationship or are a rare, what we call a unicorn, a single swinger and are just looking for fun. It's not, you don't go to a swing party to find your future husband. It might be a bad place unless you're looking for a polygamist. It has happened. So may I ask, where are you on this? Are you a unicorn? I am a unicorn. I am single. Is that, that seems, I would guess that that's more rare for a woman than for a man. It is extremely rare. Most. So you're not just a unicorn. You're the unicorn that farts fucking rainbows. That's you, man. Can I change my Twitter bio to that? That'd be awesome. That's right. Not only do you fart rainbows, but your pussy just spreads. And it's rainbow juices. And that's why they all want you. That's, yeah. I can see that's rare. I have no idea what to say to that. I think that, I think you just did. You just said something to that. That was fantastic. But yeah, no, it's, you find a lot more single females than single males. A lot of swinger groups don't allow single males because it, like I said, it's very couple oriented. And it's either couples joining in with other couples as a full swap or a half swap or soft swap or whatever you want to call it. Soft swap. I don't want that. I mean, if I'm getting into swimming, I want a hard swap. Right? You might as well. Fuck that soft shit, man. There's no point. Yeah. Well, a lot of couples start with that just to kind of test boundaries. But yeah, you most of the time see a lot more single females in clubs or in groups. Very rarely do you see single males. What is a soft swap? A soft swap is just basically making out just kind of, I would say maybe second, third base, but no actual penetration. And is that in? In the presence of the other couple partner? It can be. Okay. It can be. It depends on your comfort level. A lot of time it's like same room, different bed. Okay. Just if we have any swingers out there that are listening, when I know we do because two of them tweeted me, I'm looking at you, Lucky Socks and Rope Addict. Oh, yes. Hi, guys. Swingers. Yes. Please call the show at 800-893-9562. That's 800-893-9562. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. And I was discussing this. I like the deep breath before the question. Well, because I'm so jumbled up. I'm so excited and like all this stuff. I don't know. What do you do? Why are you doing that? I don't know. Whenever she says things like that, I want to figure out a way to make her really fucking uncomfortable. So she's turning like this cute little pinkish color. She's so fantastic. It's really cute. Thanks, guys. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Anyways, so I guess my question is, how is a relationship, like let's say you got a guy that's married to this woman and they're both very, they're interested in participating. What would they need in their relationship in order to make it sustainable? Because I mean, it seems like it's kind of like if you're not ready for it, it could be a recipe for disaster. It can be and it has been and I've seen some really bad. I mean, I've been in some great situations and I'm actually really hesitant to join in on a threesome because of that. I mean, I've been chased out of a house before. I've been yelled at. I've been screamed at. I've had, it's just, it's awful sometimes. So it's really getting to know the couple as far as like me going into it. I need to know that the couple has a good understanding of boundaries, that they have a good communication level, that they have a good trust level, that they're solid in their relationship. Right. Before anything happens. And it's a lot of the time. That's why there is such things like a soft swap and voyeurism where you can go to a party and a lot of parties just allow you to watch just to kind of take those baby steps into slowly. Okay, well, is this okay? Is this okay? You know, is this okay? And it really depends on the couples because different couples have different rules. Even full swingers, they'll have completely different set of rules. You'll see a swinger couple that come into a party and just they never connect for the rest of the night. They never see each other. They just branch off, do their own thing, and that's it. And then you have couples that stay glued together the entire night and only have people join them. And then you have couples that kind of just kind of check in on each other every so often and make sure that they're okay. So it really depends on the couple and their comfort level. I think I have a question about swingers clubs because, you know, they exist. They do. And there are some around. We are in the LA area. Most of you know that. Okay. So talk to me about me, us, all of us. Not just me. That's very selfish of me. Sorry, D-type. Tell us about kind of what is a general swinger club like? What does it involve in going into and when you're there and what kind of – I would say what happens. I can guess, but I'd rather not guess. So let's say what happens. Well, it depends, again, on what kind of club. A lot of different clubs kind of cater to different things. I would say some of the larger clubs. There are several here in the LA area that really cater to couples that have a dance floor, that have a DJ, that have several bar areas, have several different play areas. I've been to different clubs in San Diego to where they have different rooms that have different themes. And there's like – there's a BDSM room and then there's like a jungle room and then there's just the couples room and then there's just the girls room. And there's – so depending on what you're looking for that night, you can go into different themed rooms. And then there's a lot of different groups like the group that I'm a part of, the Erotic Paradise. And there's a lot of different parties that we throw just little parties. And – well, not little, but they're just parties where we invite people to come and join. And it's more of a – instead of, hey, whoever wants to come, come, just pay the entry fee. It's a selective process as far as who we want to come to the parties. I like that. So, well, I mean, you know, if I was someone who was interested in getting started in that, that would make me feel safe. Right. You know? You know? Because if I'm someone who's just really starting out and trying to, you know, get information, where do I go? Who do I talk to? Something like that makes me feel like – Yeah, a big room full of naked people can be very intimidating. Yeah. Exactly. And I'm going the other way. I'm going a swingers club would be less intimidating for me because you can blend it. Yes. You can cling to the walls and you can be a wallflower and watch and convoy all night long. And if it's a big club and anybody's welcome, that's cool. Whereas if it's a party, you know, your name's on the list. Everybody knows your name. It's like the cheers of swingers clubs. And, you know, it's – So it's one of those, hey, you know, it's my full. Why aren't you playing? I'm good. I'm just going to hang out here for a minute. But – And I get that. But it sounds to me that in that kind of like selective process, you wouldn't be invited unless people knew you. Unless you had some sort of reputation for being someone who knows what's up, who isn't a dick, and who isn't going to disrespect anyone. And honestly, a lot of the times in the smaller groups, you're looking at more of a friend setting. So it's very social. It's very more geared towards a cool environment, relaxing. There's no pressure. I mean, it really just depends on what you are looking for, honestly. I mean, my group, for example, one thing – the reason I love my group is because – I'm sorry. What was the name of the group again? The Erotic Paradise. The Erotic Paradise. The Erotic Paradise. I know. Isn't that great? But we – Erotic city, come alive. There you go. You did it. You did it. She's red. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. Because I was really – like, I did not expect that. I was ready to drink. Prince is the key. That's right. Who knows? That's right. Who knows? But yeah, no, we usually start the parties around – I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. We start the parties around 10 or 11, and we literally spend – Damn, it's late. Yeah. God. I know. I guess we're late. I get tired. I'm going to nap. But we'll spend about a good two, three hours just socializing. Wow. Just wandering around the room. I mean, you come in. And whoever invited you or whoever you had contact with will introduce you around. You'll get to know everyone. You kind of have a few drinks or some dancing. And you kind of get to know whatever house or hotel location that we're at and really just kind of get to know people, see who you're feeling out, and see who you click with. And then we usually play some sort of party game, you know, pick a girl, lie her down, whipped cream on the boobs, pick two volunteers. And so that's when we kind of start getting – everybody to be kind of a voyeur and see who's comfortable, see who's not. Kind of like an icebreaker. Yes. Really, whipped cream on the boobs is an icebreaker. Well, okay, yes. At a swinger party, it's totally an icebreaker. Well, yeah. I mean, it's a – Now I know how we're going to break the ice in the future. No, but – Look at her. Look, she's fidgeting now. She said something in Spanish. I don't know what it was. But, no, but I'm saying, you know, that that's something that's fairly non-threatening. It is. And it's inviting. It is. That's why I'm saying it's like an icebreaker. And it's nice for the girls because you don't – if you're the one who's, I guess, whipped creamed, is that the right – No, I'm making up words, right? No, we totally endorse making up words. Awesome. We're okay with that. Okay, good. So if you're the person you get to pick, if you're not necessarily comfortable with males, pick females. If, you know, and you can choose, you know, because all the girls in my group are bi. See, that makes it so much easier. It's fantastic. And they all have – Incredible boobs. It's amazing. Boobs. You have no – I mean, this is like – I don't know, maybe it should be called the boob paradise. It's like an erotic paradise. But, yeah, so it's really nice. You can kind of pick and choose who you kind of want to click with. And then after you've been whipped creamed – that's the word I made up, right? I like it. After you've been whipped creamed, you can – In media, some would call it cupcake. And I'll explain that in a minute. You can decide to – if you click with somebody and you kind of had that moment, just move off to another room and kind of – and kind of get things going. And so that kind of helps people pair off and kind of helps people – especially if you're a couple, you can have your husband on one boob and the female you're interested on the other. And if that kind of chemistry works, great. Get up. Move off. Go play. All right. I like that. Next. Yep. Now taking number 20. Oh, my. I get sloppy seconds. Sloppy 20s. So the cupcaking thing in BDSM, I've seen several parties where girls have a rope harness put on. And then it's – so it's done in a way that their boobs are – it's like a rope bra, for lack of a better term. But, you know, it's an assless chap's version of a rope bra, so there's nothing covering the boobs. Okay. And then you take frosting or whipped cream or whatever it is, and you put it on the boobs. And we have, in fact, put candles on them as well. And then people, whoever wants to, comes around and licks. Off of the boobs. You just gave me my birthday cake idea for next year. Thank you. You're very welcome. There you go. Awesome. I'm already planning my next birthday. We usually do birthday spankings. Oh, no. If you guys could see the bruises on my butt right now. I want to see them. Fantastic. They're ridiculous. They're just – Are you shy? I have – no. I have, I guess you could say, a playmate. He asked me to call him maestro if I spoke of him on the air. And he is a – He's a spanker. That's fantastic. And bruised me to no end. I love that. And I have a high pain tolerance. That has nothing to do with bruising. Nothing to do with bruising. And I bruise very, very easily, and it's not fair. I want to see. Oh, God. I love people that bruise easily. Easy marks. So fantastic. Yes, if you're willing to share with us too bad radio. I'm going to moon the radio. We get to see her ass. Can I do this without the headphones? Yeah. Take the headphones. Walk over here. They can still hear you. You just can't hear. I just can't hear you guys. No, you can hear us. See? It's like this. You can still hear us. I had this discussion with Nancy many moons ago. Oh. Oh, sure. You can't hear us? What's worse than the other? Fantastic. Is maestro left-handed? No, I just kept squirming more to one side other than the other. Fantastic. My dress is all weird. Makes me want to beat some girl's ass. Makes me want to bruise that bitch's ass. Like, whoa. Only because she, number one, she marks really easily. And I can beat the shit out of her. You're a pussy. I'm going to do shit to you. Yeah. Pussy. I'm a sadist's dream because I have a very high pain tolerance and I bruise very, very easily. Okay. So I assume that there's more than one kind of, we're back to swinging. Yes. Sorry. Now my ass is covered up again. Which is a pity. Truly. It's fantastic. Thank you. She's so pretty. She's gorgeous. I could see why she would be, you know, the sparkling, you know, rainbow farting pussy juice unicorn because she's beautiful and she's well-spoken, you know, and she knows what she wants and she could take a beating. But actually it works against me because I am so alpha female and so aggressive a lot of the times at these parties, the guys are scared to approach me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could see that. Yeah. Do you, and, and, and in the social groups that you run in, do you have any gay males that partake? We don't, but I have been to some groups who do have bisexual males and I've been in some intimate encounters that include both. Well, that's cool. I just, I always wonder like, I mean, you know, some men can identify as being hetero flexible. Yes. And I wonder if in that kind of, in that kind of scenario, if it's, if it's also a safe place to explore that. It is a very safe place. A lot of the groups are really, yes, it's totally okay to suck cock. When? It is a very, very safe place. I would suggest for hetero males to really do their research on the groups or for bi males or such because some groups are more open than others. And a swing club, a larger place might be a good bet for the first few times until you get into your own comfortable clique. Which, which obviously there's going to be several different groups and clubs. How, if somebody is listening to this and thinking this is the greatest thing since masturbation, how can they find this shit out? I mean, outside of, I don't know, Google, but maybe there's something a little bit. Google will steer you wrong. Some people get confused with the Google. They don't know what to do. So maybe. You end up looking at different kind of pictures of pigs and horses and you forget what you were looking at. I don't want to think of pigs and horses when I'm thinking of swinging. That seems wrong. Yeah. No, I would say, well, the, for my group, the website is www.theeroticparadise.webs.com. There are also some great sites that specifically cater towards swingers, like swingerlifestyle.com. I would say, I would say, I would say, I would say, I would say, I would say, I would say, I would say, coupleswhoswing.com. Cassidy, as well, is another great lifestyle. Hold on, woman. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Swingerlifestyle.com. What was after that? Couples who swing. And then Cassidy. We're going to post these on, we'll post them on the Twitter, the Tumblr, and the Facebook. There we go. Coupleswhoswing.com. And then Cassidy, of course. That's one of the more well-known ones. Not to me. To me, that's Sean Cassidy. Sean Cassidy makes me think of my Sean Cassidy pillowcase when I was a kid that I would make out with when I was about to chad. I get a tweet. Lifestyle Lounge. Yes. Yes. Sorry, go ahead. Swinglifestyle. of course, the ever-reliable Craigslist. Swinglifestyle. Yes. I would hesitate against Craigslist. Just because, I mean, with anything, you're going to find a lot of flakers. You're going to find a lot of posers. But, yeah. It's, if you wouldn't buy a puppy off of Craigslist, don't find your sexual partner off of Craigslist. Is there something that you are biting, your tongue with, in terms of Craigslist? Because I can see that there's. So, yeah. So, not for me, personally, but, 21 and I, trolled Craigslist, often, for our, mutual encounters. So, there's that. I miss 21. Yeah. I'm sorry. Whoa. I miss you too. So, there you go. We, we, we got a lot. I wrote them all down. We got a lot. But, yeah, no, on, the Erotic Paradise website, again, I'm Nina Love. So, look me up on there. And, the nice thing with that is, all the members of my specific group, we call ourselves the tribe in Erotic Paradise. There's about, 10 to 12 close-knit friends, and, who kind of, it's not a, most, most swinger groups are run by a couple, or two couples. I mean, there's about 10 to 12 of us, couples, single males, single females, who kind of help recruit, do marketing, run the parties, do everything, basically. Fucking cool. And, it's really great. And, we're one of the few groups that does encourage single males to come. Wow. Yes. We encourage single males. The couples who we play with love single guys. A lot of single females come to the parties. So, yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. That works out. Fucking secret society. Do you guys have a secret handshake? No, but we should. We've talked about like, somebody, somebody like eight inch cock should. You know, but now that you say that, a lot of times we do greet each other with a boob grab. And, if a guy comes up, we say hi by grabbing his junk. I would say that does happen sometimes. That sounds like a secret handshake. A little medieval, but just hot. But, you know what? You got to sample the goods sometimes. Um, just drop trowel. Especially with a, if I can, name like eight inch cock. You got to back that shit up. Right? Mm-hmm. I don't give a fuck. That picture could be anybody's. You know, pull it out. Right? I've been taking everyone's word about the size of his penis. I've never seen it. And I am scared. Don't be scared of penis. I think that you should see his penis. I just, I think you should. I agree. I think it should be a field trip. Yay! A field trip to eight inch cock's penis. That's what it should be. And we'll call it that. Field trip to eight inch cock's penis. I like that idea. I'm not saying you have to touch it. I don't want to touch it. Although with the field trip, my fingers are doing the little walking thing. So walk up and down the shaft. What the fuck? I don't know. That's how my brain did with field trip. You walk on a field trip. You do. You do sightseeing. Do, do, do. Hand seeing. I'm not, I'm just joking. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, dude, you out there. She's like petrified right now. Petrified about going near the penis. She dislikes penis so much. If I mentioned that her microphone looks like a black cock, she'll freak out. Look at her. Look at her. Every time. It's fantastic. So now that we're on the subject of eight inch cocks, is someone like him, is he kind of a unicorn-esque in the fact that eight inches, a pleasant surprise to many single women? I'm just saying comparatively. I would say in most cases, it is a pleasant surprise, especially from someone of his ethnicity. It is true. But in my group, I would say it's a standard. If not, yeah. Wow. Did you get that it is theeroticparadise.webs.com for that group? Ladies. We have several. Actually, I would say- And men, now that you understand where the bar is, just, you know, hold back. I would say all of our men are gifted in that department. It has to counter the good boobs. We gotta have both. That's true. We gotta have both. We've got some beautiful, fantastic, amazing women. So, we gotta balance it out by some big cocks. Well, and think about it. If you've got, you know, one or two, eight, nine-inch cocks, and the rest are, you know, five and a half, six and a half, who's the girls gonna go with? You know, I mean, not to say that all women are cock whores. They're not all. True. But, yeah. Well, unless they can really overcompensate with amazing oral, which, or maybe you wanna try anal, and you're good with the five, five and a half for that. I'm just, there's variety. I have nothing to add. There is, there is a good variety, I would say. Just replace cock with strap-on. And then your life is happier, right? Like a five and a half strap-on in your ass? your strap-on a penis? Does that scare her? Don't do that. I'll call it. Please don't do that. Look at her. Her eyes got all pink. Don't do that. My war hammer. Actually, now that you mentioned, the hammer, he would have to be our crown jewel in that department. It's about, I won't say. Yeah, that's about right. And about. What the fuck? That's why we call him the hammer. I think I'm in love. Yeah. He's a gentle giant, but it would definitely be, um, it's an experience. We keep saying we need t-shirts to say, I rode the hammer and survived. It's about, by the way, it's about the size of a baby's arm, is what you just indicated. Yeah, it's basically about the size of a baby's arm, and about as thick. It's, it's kind of ridiculous. And it's a real fat baby. It's the, you know, the wrist, real fat baby with a big baby's arm. That's what it looked like. So you're being fisted by a baby. He's a gentle giant. Fisted by a baby. Oh my God, if he's listening, he's going to kill me. He's gonna kill me. No, no, no. He's not gonna kill you. I will let him. No, he's gonna kill me, because last night I ran away from him at the party. Did you? I did. You ran away from that? Well, I made him promise, because otherwise he'd break my uterus. And I love playing with him. I don't like broken uteruses. I love playing with him, but I wanted to really have fun at my birthday party last night. Sure. So I told him, I said, please don't break my uterus. And so he agreed to be nice. But I shit talk, and that really kind of gets him going. And if he's hearing this, I'm gonna get a phone call. You're gonna get a broken uterus. I'm gonna get a broken uterus. You're going to get a bruised cervix. This is a true statement. I had a bruised cervix. They are not fun. They are not fun. No, actually they're kind of fun. What? What is that even, what? It feels like someone just reached out there and punched you. So Nancy, if you look at the woman's body, there is the vaginal canal where the baby comes out of. And up at the very end of the vaginal canal is the cervix, which is the outer end of the uterus where the baby grows. I feel like we need a poster board with the- Some vaginal canals are longer than others, as some hammers are longer than others. So if this man has a long hammer, that means an average size vaginal canal, he's gonna still have three or four inches hanging off of his body. And if he wants to really ram it in there, it's going to naturally bruise the beautiful delicate cervix that the baby would come out of. I hate that we're talking about ramming someone with a penis and babies, all in the same conversation. You know what? You just gotta separate when you come onto this show. You can't be all prudish like that. Nope, nope, sorry. We already mentioned it looked like a baby's arm. I mean, that visual is already in people's heads. The man, you need to get one of those little QB dolls and you need to tear off one of the arms and turn it into a key chain and give it to him. Just say, it has to happen. Again, that number is 800- 899-999. 939-9562. He actually has a shirt that says you must be this tall to ride. It's awesome. That's nice. It's awesome. I've seen girls, you must be this big. Must be this big to ride this ride. But yeah, no, he's one of the interesting ones. I would say superstars. The other would be probably the king of our group, who we call the hook. And his- I can imagine. Here's the visual. It's like this, which is very interesting. You know, G-string action, G-spot action. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know, if you're doing, yeah. But you know what I've noticed is like, you know, she was saying it's very, depending on how your vaginal canal is built, it's easier to take one than the other. And most women can't take both. And those who can, we hold in very high esteem. Look at that. See girls, we're having people, some physiology today. Yeah, yeah, this is anatomy. Some anatomy. We're really, we are saving lives. So we have a caller. It's fantastic. Of course we do. Hello caller. Hello, this is the hammer. Oh my God. It's a baby's arm. No, it's so not the hammer. I just figured I'd freak Nancy out. Oh, I know who this is. This is what he sucks. Oh, hi. Hi, how are you girls? Oh my God. We're talking. We're not tweeting to each other. We're talking. Yeah, this is kind of awkward. Then let the man talk. I'm sorry. Yes, what can we do for you? Oh, well, I just wanted to call in one happy birthday, Nina. Thank you. Hope you had fun last night. I did. And then, you know, I don't know. I just wanted to kind of chime in because, you know, you kind of mentioned earlier that I was a swinger and I figured, hey, you know, might as well like kind of give it, you know. You really out yourself. A double on that. Yeah, you did totally, just totally out yourself. What's that? Did I just out myself? You outed yourself. Yeah. It's okay. It's pretty public already. You know, it's weird because, yes, you know, me and the wife have, you know, explored that lifestyle and, you know, we have explored the swinger world and, you know, we're predominantly kinky first and, you know, mostly we like to mix the kink and our sex and that usually doesn't happen. You know, it's like there's kind of, there's a few of us who do, but, you know, in public and dungeons and stuff like that, it seems very, seems really rare and that's something that's kind of a bummer for us. So we kind of have a little group of friends that do prefer that. You mentioned my hetero life mate earlier, a little paddock, him and I and we have a nice group of friends who all do that together and, you know, but we're also, you know, all extremely kinky. So, yeah. So, anyway, I don't know. I just wanted to chime in on that and say hi to you guys. I'm going to go ahead and get going. I'm going to go ahead and get going. I'm going to say hi to you guys and, you know, just kind of mention that we're, you know, we're kind of both, you know. It's weird because sometimes I kind of get weird hearing me called a swinger, but I guess it's true in a way. In a way. In a way. So, I've been asked to ask you about the bunny fur. What's up with the bunny fur? The bunny fur? Oh, wow. Where did that come from? It's Easter. Oh, yeah. Well, it's Easter. I think I just tweeted it. That bastard. What's the bunny fur? I want to know. I don't know if I could talk about that on the air. Oh, no. This is internet radio. You can talk about anything. Too late. Too late. Yeah, I know, but I don't know if I'm willing to speak about it. That might be something that I would like to remain. There was an incident where my wife was filming Rope Addict and his fiancee, mid-coitus, and I was in the shot. I was rubbing bunny fur on a specific spot of my body. I was quite enjoying it. I didn't know I was on camera. It was extremely late at night. I'm just sitting there in the background. My wife was filming it. All of a sudden, I become the focus of the shot. As soon as I realized this, I have this crazy shock looked on my face. It just poked away. Just completely scared shitless. It is. I'm embarrassed out of my mind. That's why I tweeted that because he wanted me to get that out there. Not everyone knows that story. I love the story. There's a little more to that story. I only have one question, though, hun. Where did the bunny fur come from? Was it just lying around your room? Don't sit with someone's jacket. You might have to ask Rope Addict about that because it was his. I might have adopted it since then. Yeah. I mean, everything else is perfectly normal. Congratulations for that wonderful experience. But, yeah, I just wondered where you got it. Funny flogger. Where it was coming from. You know what? Yeah, you might have to talk to Rope Addict about that. It was his, but I think he might have thrown it in a fire once I was done. Yeah. I think that funny flogger got retired that night. Thank you so much for calling Lucky Socks. Yeah, absolutely. Girls, have a good show. Thanks. Thank you. Bye. Bye. You know, you brought up a good point, and that was about the people that enjoy a kinkier sex. Is that welcome, open? Is that something where once they go into a private room they can partake of? It's definitely welcome and open and definitely something that the private rooms you can take advantage of. It's nice. I like, I mean, a little bit kinkier sex. So, for me, my partners already know. And, I mean, it's common. I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in parties now that I've been in on display and different my well my swinging experiences is blurred because my I've got a BDSM crowd that kind of blurs into the swinging crowd and kind of so I've had kind of both and so it's welcome it's definitely welcome and it's something that most swingers because they're already open-minded are willing to at least watch and learn and are curious about I like that yeah I mean in a in Las Vegas the only dungeon that they have there is a power exchange and it's actually coded within Clark County it's coded as a swingers club they don't have a code for a dungeon so technically you could do everything you can I mean there's beds you know what I mean and they have a jungle room they always you know whatever I love the jungle rooms where we fisted using a color in the jungle room and she squirted fantastic oh yes yes um so so it's for me you know when I when I was first started I was like I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this I'm gonna I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I ups. So our life just kind of, but every once in a while she would come in full regalia and use and abuse me kind of thing or use and abuse others and it was kind of her deal because that's what she wanted to do that night but she didn't want to do it being who she was. She wanted to do it as just this is how I want to get off tonight. So it can definitely overlap and I for one root for it. Oh yeah. I mean well there are several dungeons in our local area where sex is allowed. It happens rarely. I mean you know blowjobs are pretty common but actual sex is pretty rare. I remember the first time I saw actual sex at the dungeon. Believe it or not that one time wasn't the first time. Really? But it was just you know bent over a spanking bench and being fucked. I don't think that counts. This other time it was a couple and I was in the middle of spanking somebody or beating somebody up. I don't know. And then the table to my right there's a woman that's all of a sudden on top of this guy writing him and I was like oh oh oh oh. It was very distracting. It was awesome. It took my focus from my spanking because I really wanted to watch. They really turned into the focus. I mean because it was a huge open room and they turned into the focus of that entire room. Sometimes there was no loudness to it. A couple can really, their energies can just draw everything. And then later on he was eating her out and we literally turned it into, we were like Mystery Science Theater 3000-ing it. We were watching it. We're like is she enjoying it? He's doing a fucking shitty job. She ain't making shit for noise. Oh there we have it! So you know it was really very entertaining. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah. And especially at our parties we I can tell, especially my close friends, no matter where they are, what room they are, if they're getting off. And I'll be in the living room and somebody will be in the back playroom. I'm like yeah! She's getting it! And totally cheering her on two rooms away because you can tell. And it's funny because I'll be in a darkish room and somebody will be like who's there? Who's playing? They hear me. They're like oh! That's just Nina. Man that's fucking cool. Because each woman has her own moans. And you can tell when you're hitting certain things. They make specific noises. So if you know those noises and the guys of course also have their certain noises. So you can totally tell if you close your eyes who's with who and who's doing it right. But that's, I mean that's such a refreshing take on friendship. I mean I'm still back there. That you can talk about those things openly. It's ridiculous. I love my life. I love my friends. My two amigos, Mr. Smiley and Miss Booty are loves of my life right now. And I just adore them and I'm going to miss them when I move to San Diego. But I know I'm moving in three weeks. Sorry. Surprise! San Diego's beautiful though. I love it. But yeah I mean we started as a threesome actually. We met at a party and then hooked up for a threesome and it ended up being the best of friends. And I mean I would give my kidneys to them. I mean without hesitation. It just wouldn't. How about if you just give them one? Just one. But I mean we'll be out at Starbucks totally talking about the night before or sharing experiences. I love that shit. Or like hey did you see this? Does this look weird? Is this weird? I mean we just completely open in the middle of a restaurant. Doesn't even matter. What? Can we help you? Nancy standing up again? It's hot. She's going to start fanning herself with a skirt? It's really. It's just hot. I agree that it is hot. And even Jeremy said that it's stuffy in here. It is. I'm not disagreeing. So it's just what I'm going to do. Is that okay? No. Well then what should I do? I don't know. I'm tempted to tell you to take all your clothes off. No. Don't do that. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. She's voting. So voting. We have a mute listener who's agreeing that the clothes should come off. Hands up that Nancy's clothes should come off. Maybe just the dress. Bitch. Hey, you warned her that today she would learn more about you than she ever wanted to know. So the clothes must come off. Are you wearing underwear? I am. See? So then it's no big deal. I just totally mooned you guys on radio. You've seen my ass. I should see yours. It's only fair. It's only fair. It is. She's right. She's right about that. Quit pro-cro. Allez, allez. Allez, allez, allez, allez. Don't do this. That is, no. That is the most unsexy thing to me right now. I know it is. Let's get going. Do you want to? As she's taking her clothes off, because I'm going to stop paying attention at this point. What is the conversation at these parties, this two and three hours of conversation before the actions? Is it, is it, so do you like anal? It can be. Can you please describe your oral sex style for me? It can be. It can be that. It can be very sexual. Like, just. See now, don't you feel more comfortable? I, I do. Nah. But yeah, no, it can be just because like I said, most of us are friends. So it's just catching up from the week or two, because we usually do parties every other week or at least twice a month, at least twice a month. So a lot of the times, this is the only times that we see each other. So just catching up. How have you been? How's mom? How's dad? How's the dog kind of thing. But then as you're getting to know new people, it's just new people talk. I mean, what are you into? What are you into? What are your boundaries? Would you like some more lemonade? I mean, it's just, it's anything. I mean, it's, it's honestly, you're just getting to know people and yeah, the kinky talk does come in, you know, people giving each other compliments and, oh my God, you're the hammer kind of conversation happens. And it just, yeah. Do you guys have t-shirts? I wish. I want my hammer t-shirt. No, but yeah, we all have. I rode the hammer and survived. I'm telling you, I've been promised this t-shirt and he told me last night, he was like, it's in the mail. I'm like, what a liar. He's a liar. You need a woman to get that shit done. But we all have our nicknames. And so a lot of the times the nicknames are a good icebreaker as far as, you know, smiley obviously has a gorgeous smile. What is your nickname? Heartbreaker. I could see that. That might contribute to why people are scared of you. No. Yeah. No. But I mean, it's good because I mean, if you're talking to booty, you say, oh, your nickname is turn around, you know, kind of thing. So it does. When she turns around, does baby got back start? I wish. That would be fantastic. Baby got back. I don't know what this woman looks like, but I can imagine. I totally, we totally need sound checks. It's ridiculous. Well, actually, Judy Booty, big booty. That's her Twitter name. Big underscore booty is on Twitter, as is my smiley. So yeah, they're all, a lot of my friends are on Twitter. Because Twitter's fantastic. Yeah. I miss the Twitter. We miss you on Twitter. I do. It is what it is. You're missed. You are missed. I just want to say that. I pop up on the love bite occasionally. Yes, you do. Yeah. Not the same. It's not the same. No. You get some little bits from, but yeah. Yeah. It's not the same. But yeah, whatever. You're missed. Okay. So what about when. This looks like a serious question. Well, no, it's not a serious question, but I guess it is. But you know, when you're in a relationship, you're like, oh, I'm going to be a little bit more serious. I'm going to be a little bit more serious. I'm going to be even more serious now that I've been in that relationship now that I've been in that relationship now that I've been in that relationship now that I've been in necessary drama? It does happen because obviously we're dealing with humans, emotions, and sex, but the security of the group does always help. That's one thing I really love about this group is because I know that if I'm ever put in an uncomfortable situation, I've got 10 to 12 other people who have my back and who will get me out of any sort of situation. All groups have some sort of security or some sort of policy. Obviously, if you break the rules, if you're lucky, you'll get a warning. Most of the time you get thrown out. I mean, they're safe environments, even in the clubs. They've got security. If you're uncomfortable, no means no, and that's it. And if there's drama within couples, we just ask them nicely to leave. If people are squabbling or fighting or anything, we just ask you nicely to leave. And you know what? This might not be for you yet. We always say yet because you never know. But a lot of times, yeah, it happens. There is drama and there's also alcohol involved and personalities that happen with alcohol involved. So we've got a lot of situations. But I mean, obviously, it's going to happen. It's just how groups work with it. A lot of times you get a warning and then you'll be asked to leave. But it's safe. It sounds so organized. I love it. It is. It's very organized. Apart from the T-shirts and perhaps everybody having their own checklist, it's kind of a paradise for you. And apart from the fact that there are cocks called the hammer. You don't have to touch the penis. There are plenty of beautiful women. She doesn't even like to see the penis. So we were at a- Oh, yeah. No, there are definitely penises wandering around. We were at a BDSM education thing. We were at the- At the GRU. And at the GRU, a great answer who is the man for whom the GRU is named, who created the GRU, he was having a- This, by the way, was a brilliant ploy on his part. How to accept a blow job gracefully. So he gets a blow job. That sounds like a very interesting class. He gets a blow job. Of course. And it's not about how to give a blow job. It's about how to accept the blow job gracefully. But of course, this required cock. Of course. His cock to be able to accept it. And he's like, I'm getting a seat. And a girl in front of him kneeling. And I'm getting a seat. And I want a close seat because I want to watch. And of course, I want to sit- I like the cock. Close to her because she's my D type. She's my mistress. I want to be close to her. So she said, are you sure you're not too close to the cock? And she's like, ah. And thankfully, it was in the girl's mouth most of the time. So it wasn't a lot of visual time. So she was happy about that. But there was a moment she was a bit apprehensive. Look, I am very apprehensive about- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a fan of the cock. But that class, I could appreciate what that was about. I could totally see how it was useful for both people, both those who are receiving the blow job and those who are giving it. Yeah. The class did nothing for me. I wanted to watch a blow job. I wanted to watch Gray be blown. That's why I was there. And talk the entire time. I don't need to learn how to accept a blow job gracefully because much to some other people's opinions, I don't actually have a cock. And I don't actually get- I don't really give blow jobs that often. So don't really need either. Yep. It was interesting though, because he was actually able to get through the entire class without fumbling. Yeah, some. I really wanted to say, can we have just a few moments of silence so that there can be a moment to finish? I would like to watch that. And he was like, no, I'm not going to be able to do it in front of everybody. Damn. Yeah. That's another stigma is actually getting past the, I'm going to have sex in public in front of a whole room of people stigma. Ooh. I personally- I personally get off on it. I like an audience, but a lot of people it's very difficult. And that's okay. How do they over-how do they overcome that? The whipped cream game does help because you are exposing small parts of your body or participating in a very calm, I guess, compared to most activity. And so that kinda helps kinda get the adrenaline going. But a lot of times you realize that not everyone's watching you. Yep. They're just- Doing their job. Yep. Yep. own thing and you just burp. I didn't reach for the call button. I'm sorry. Excuse me. I was going to try and say something. It was not a burp. So there's obviously, there's some people that are both voyeurs and exhibitionists and there's some people that are very vehemently exhibitionists and very vehemently voyeurs. In your experience with the swinging lifestyle, how do those, I mean, obviously exhibitionists and voyeurs work out together, but how does it, when somebody comes to terms with who and what they are, I'm sure you've seen them develop that in them and how does that work out for you? Gosh, again, it depends on the different people, but I've had some people who really kind of are shy at first, some really just jump right in and get naked right away. I mean, it really doesn't matter. It just depends on your personality, your comfort level. A lot of people, it's kind of baby steps. They'll do the whipped cream game two or three parties. They'll just kind of watch. They'll just kind of, and all of a sudden another party comes by and you see them in the corner, like getting it on and having fun and you cheer them on and all right. I mean, it's, I have actually last night at one point, I actually stopped giving a blow job to cheer on my friends that were behind me. Fucking solidarity right there. It was awesome. I turned around like, yeah, get it. And then went right back to what I was doing. And then when I heard her come again, I stopped and like, yes, you're doing it. And then went back to it. I was doing. And then I heard him come. I'm like, oh, you got it, bitch. Good job. Because that's what friends are for. Right? That's what I'm saying. That's beautiful. I think that's so beautiful. I mean, I'm still stuck on how like this elevates friendships because it doesn't, I mean, it's not, doesn't mean that you are or aren't intimate, like sexually with these friends, but it creates a different type of intimacy that most people don't get to have with their friends. It's a lot of shit talking and it's so much fun because of it. What I think it goes a little bit beyond that. And it's not just the friendship. It's about the entire concept. And it crosses over to BDSM as well. It's the, the, the overall idea that you must communicate your needs and your wants and the other party must communicate their needs and their wants prior to anything happening. And in regular vanilla life, that doesn't happen. Rarely happens. You stumble into sex with somebody. I mean, you may really want to, but you stumble into sex, but you don't sit there before you walk into the bed and go, okay, here's the deal. I like this position. I like sex like this. And I like this. And when I come, I want to do this, this, and this. Can you do that? Awesome. Let's go. If you can't, here are my do's, here are my don'ts. Gotta go. You know, it just does, that's not how it works in the vanilla world. And, and in this, the swingers and the BDSM world, you say, these are my needs. These are my wants. This is how it goes. These are my needs. These are my wants. Oh, they work out. We're going to go and do our thing together. And if they don't, it's okay. Like it's totally okay. I mean, if, if I don't click with a guy, it's totally okay for saying, you know what? No, thanks. Next. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Like a spankophile going up to, to a D type and saying, you know, would you spank me? And the D type's going, I don't like to spank. It hurts my hands. I prefer whatever. And then it's like, oh, cool. No big deal. It's just not what they're into. And you move on. At the end of the world. Yeah. Just like you have different body type preferences or racial preferences. I mean, you have different sexual preferences. And if you're not into it, you're not into it. No reason to, you're not in a relationship and you're not dating them. So you don't have to have sex with them. Right. It's fantastic. Or you don't have to do. Whatever it is to please them. Cause that's not what it's about. You don't have to make them like you. It's great. I love being a unicorn. You don't have to like me. Just fuck me. Basically. Yes. Let's just not talk and we'll have sex. Yes. Let's do that. My God, you've just fixed every single one of my relationships I've ever had. Right. Now they're all fixed. No talking, just sex. Fantastic. Done. I'm just keeping it real here on the love bite as we do. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Is there anything that we have missed that you would like to really share about swinging? Um, not really. I mean, I've really found a lot of freedom in it. I have a very conservative job and very conservative family. And I was raised in a very conservative religious, conservative family. And so I really have a freedom in this and being able to have friends who I can speak freely with and be freely with. And not have drama and not have issues and not have to worry about. Oh single. You know, I don't have that worry. I mean, yeah, sometimes it's bummer but it doesn't matter. Well, and that that prompts a good question. Then I'm gonna say I'm gonna say I have a good question before I say it because that's how completely and totally arrogant I am. So So should you desire a relationship? Should the little magical click in your head? go, I want to get married or I want whatever. This is a good question. Is swinging a prerequisite to that? I wouldn't say swinging is a prerequisite because not everybody is a swinger, but being comfortable with me being non-monogamous is a prerequisite. Okay. I mean, in whatever terms, whatever compromise that becomes, that's fine. But yeah, no, I would say that a lot of the men that I date aren't necessarily swingers, but they are okay with the lifestyle and either okay at coming to a party and being a voyeur or okay with me seeing others on a one-on-one basis or are okay with having people join us. Okay. Well, I have a question. A good question? You should prerequisite by saying it's a good question because that's what I did so that we can both look like douches. No, because it might not be a good question. I don't want to be the only douche. I'm sorry. It might not be a good question. It's a kind of sort of good question. Yeah. But not as good as yours. So how do you deal with, in terms of like safe sex, that kind of... It's mandatory. Condoms, mandatory at any party. And if you are seen without your partner, it's not okay. It is a big no-no. So do you have, because in the BDSM world, we have fluid bonded partners. Do you have any fluid bonded partners and those are the ones other than like in your marriage that it's okay? There are some. That you do. Yes. And as long as that's your partner, obviously you guys can play as you guys normally play. But as far as just going in random, no, not okay. But yeah, there are, as long as the rule is, as long as it's your partner, go ahead. Although it's generally frowned upon because then you've got fluids and you go to another person. It's just sanitary issues come up. But yeah, unless it's your partner. No, condom. Condoms are a must. As a follow-up to that question, which was a good question, by the way. Very good question. It's a very good question because that's a rule I hadn't covered. So yes. Is there any sort of a testing criteria? Some clubs do. Some clubs do have a testing criteria. I have gone to a few where it's part of the application process. Some clubs don't. Do they do like the HIV swab there or? No, it's one that you have to send in. They should do the swab because it's done in 20 minutes and you know somebody isn't going to bring you in a bullshit test. Yeah. No, there are some clubs that do require it. There are some. I've been to some and it's fantastic. A lot more are starting to. It just comes down to resources, honestly. If it's a smaller group, you're not going to see that because you're not going to have the resources to be able to pull that off. In a larger or more established club, you are going to see those kind of things. But I would say that in the swing community, it is a lot safer because you're dealing with generally couples who have been monogamous for their entire lives or who have been in a long committed relationship. Yeah. Monogamously for several, several years. You're not looking at Joe Schmo at the corner bar, been with God knows who and God knows what the next day. So you're the people you're interacting with generally lead a safer sexual life than Joe Blow at the bar. All right. All right. So for a single girl, it's very attractive. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I mean, and especially if it's not a question, you don't you don't have to go through that awkward moment of a condom. I mean, if it's an awkward moment, you're not going to be able to get a condom. You're not going to get a condom. All right. All right. All right. It's automatic when they pull it out. And we have them everywhere. So it's not like, oh, I didn't have one in my pocket. Someone will throw five at you. Or a condom dress. There's plenty. A condom dress? A condom dress. Actually, boobs make really good condom pockets. I'm just saying, you know, I mean, Lady Gaga wore the meat dress. True. That Colleen Atwood wore the American Express dress. Yeah. I'm thinking an American Express dress, you know, flapper style, but with condoms. You have to have no figure though. You could have different colors though. It'd be pretty. Or we can put it on like a bodysuit. Yes. The condom dress. Or a condom bra and a condom skirt. Imagine how many wrapped condoms can fit on an erect hammer. Oh, dear. No, see, but then we get into condom size. Lick and stick. He's seriously going to kill me when he hears this. It's fantastic. I can mock somebody who doesn't even know me. Of course, it's all very positive mocking. Oh, no. And he's a really amazing guy. He really is. He's one of my favorites. He's a fantastic guy. And if you saw him in person, you wouldn't think that there was a giant... Larking. Now I have to look at people a different way. I'm going to start looking at people's cocks. I hate checking out people's packages. It just seems weird. I'm going to task you with looking at everybody's package when we meet them. You should task her with the handshake. It's through the pants. You're not really touching the penis. So in. So in. So in. Well, we're running out of time. Yes, we are. But I did want to pimp Nina's... I want to pimp Nina's group, theeroticparadise.webs.com. And then we'll get all of the others because there's a lot up on, you know, our various social media outlets. Yeah. Or find me on Twitter. I've got links on all... My website on my bio. And I can always... Yep. And she's at NinaLove4 underscore. And we at The Love Bite just tweeted her name in our thing before the show. But speaking of the show. Yes. We're making some changes. Yeah. Not big. Not big changes. We are going to move the time of the show. Yeah. Having it in the evening on Sundays is impacting our obligations. Yeah. Our personal obligations. So we are going to move the show to Sunday Pacific time at 3 p.m. Pacific time. So, you know, for the Australian people, I can't do the math for you. Someone got to calculate it. That's 6 p.m. Eastern. Makes it a little easier. 6 p.m. Eastern? 3. 3 to 6. Right? Seriously. You don't know that it's 3 hours time. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what it was. It's just that my first thought went to BookPimp because it's always too late for him to tune in. But now it's not because it's only at 6 o'clock. Exactly. So now BookPimp can tune in. And so can Spunky. And so can Spunky. And so can Be Playful. And Be Playful. And Girl Mouse Wanted To. And anybody else that is on the East Coast. All of our East Coast friends. All of our East Coasters. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. And tune in and listen to us live, which is fantastic. So that's exciting. And next week we have on the very special at Subgirl. Yes. And she is a sassy, sassy thing who can take a beating. And we're excited. We're going to talk about. It probably makes really good top ramen, but I don't know because I had a flick on her last night and I'm so sorry. We're going to talk about how it affects subs when their needs are not being met. That's the topic next week. So please tune in. Don't forget to download the website. Subscribe on iTunes. 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