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Swingers 101 with Lady Isadora and Az

55m 07s
💾 557 MB
📅 2013-06-12
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Duration: 55m 07s
Size: 557 MB
Aired: 2013-06-12
Host: Insidious Muse, Service Sly
Guests: Lady Isadora, Az
A discussion about swinging, including its history, etiquette, and empowerment aspects, with two guests who are active swingers.

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📄 Transcript [show]

Good evening. Good evening. Welcome. Welcome. To our happy home. That's it. As you do like a little like jig in your chair. Dude, I love that song. I'm so glad I found it. I can tell. I was like, yes, I love it. Whereas the other one was like, it was cool, but it was like beep, beep. You know, just kept waiting for Donna Summer to come on in and start singing or something like that. You've had this like theme going on for like this entire week where like you go, after everything that you say. What is wrong with you? I don't know. Is that my grumpy old man thing? I don't know. I thought you were going with the whole get off my lawn. Get off my lawn. I'm totally going to rock that shit. For those of you who are watching us live. Hi. Hello. How are you? How are you? People in the live. World. Yeah. You get to see Nancy better than anybody. You can actually turn the camera on to. No, she doesn't want that. Oh, at least her boobs. Yeah, that is true. We can't do that. For now, you can just see my boobs. Wait. Wait. What? Welcome to Intellectual Kink. Oh, yeah. I am Insidious Muse. And I'm Service Sly. And we have guests. We do. We have guests in studio. Amazing guests. Fantastic. And they're both like. Beautiful. They're beautiful. Wonderful. And they're some of our favorite people. Kind. And slightly sadistic. Some of them. We have the Lady Isadora. It sounds like I should be boxing. Right. We just color Dora, though. And the gorgeous, the fantastic, Az. Az. Not ass. It's Az. A-Z. You can always venture for the actual Azurel. Az. Azurel. Azurel. Okay, Oregon, stop. Oregon. It's happy that people can watch us now because now they can put your hand emotions with the ridiculousness that comes out of your mouth and into that penis-like microphone. Like that? Oh, I think I licked it. Ew. Skid Row Studios germs. What did I tell you about herpes? Dude. Herpes. Herpes is not our topic for tonight. It is not. But that's actually, STDs is a good topic, but that's not what we're talking about tonight. We're talking about the exact opposite of that. We're talking about non-STDs because we're talking about condom use and swingers. Not really condom use, that's just, then there's a segue. So we're talking about swingers. For those of you who are listening, our phone number is 800-893-9562. We would like to hear. Make it good because I'll hang up on you. Yeah, that's all you need to know. It's a true statement. I have no tolerance for bad callers. None. But before we get there. Let's like talk. So we're going to talk about swingers. And the reason that we have on two fantastic, beautiful, lovely ladies is that they are both actually swingers. But before we start getting to them, I did some research. And did you know that the internet has some information out there? Don't it now? It does. And I actually got some information. It was corroborated by multiple sources on the internet. That's so impressive. It isn't, isn't it? Go fact checking. I go fact checking. So let's talk. I'm going to give you just a brief history of swingers. So boys and girls, everybody get into your seats. Sit down and listen quietly. So did you know, in fact, that swingers began during World War II? And it was begun by a few Air Force pilots and their wives. Because the Air Force pilots in World War II had a very high mortality rate. So the intention was they would, you know, wife swap for sexual gratification. But additionally, with the concept that should one of the Air Force pilots not make it home, which the odds were they wouldn't, that one of the other ones would take care of their emotional and sexual needs. It was a little bit polyamorous as well as, you know, swang in. Well, it stayed within the military confines until after the Korean War, which if any of you are aware of your history, that is into the 50s. It was not just a TV show on MASH. Did you know the TV show on MASH lasted longer than the Korean War? That's another little factoid for you. Anyway, and then it spread out into the suburbs and communities. And the first actual swinging association was founded in 1963 in, of course, Berkeley. Why do you say, of course, Berkeley? Because Berkeley is very kind of free-lovey. Why do you say, of course, Berkeley? Because Berkeley is very kind of free-lovey. And that was really kind of the hub of the sexual revolution and the hippies and blah, that kind of fun loving. You think Woodstock, but seriously, if you've been to Berkeley, you would know. You should go to Berkeley. It's fantastic. Thank God. So then that was kind of, you know, a lot of people talk about how the sexual revolution is what sparked the swingers, but it really wasn't. It started much earlier. But, of course, the sexual revolution continued it further because with women being able to take birth control, it was a lot easier for them to have sexual empowerment in order to be able to do that. Now, we can. Fast forward to today, which is 2013. I don't know if you know that's a lot later than 1963. But we can look at the fact that there's another resurgence in the swingers movement. And it's a lot about female empowerment, at least in the swingers groups that I've seen, that it's really about the women taking control over it. And it's not just about like a misogynistic, you know, cock sucking male driven organization. It's about this concept of mutual pleasure. And the people that get it, get it that if you pleasure the woman, guess what? The man gets pleasure too. Because we're really good about giving when we get it. We're really good about that in general. And my theory is that we've had this, what I consider a feminist renaissance, which is called, you know, the third wave feminist. But I consider it a feminist renaissance where women are feeling further empowered beyond simply just the sexual revolution, further empowered with themselves, with their bodies, and not just about, hey, I can have sex. I can have a dick in my pussy at any time without worrying about getting pregnant. It goes beyond that, where they can actually take ownership over their, their pleasure in any way, any means, any whatever. And there's also a lot of other empirical evidence that's come out that are more and more women are experimenting with homosexuality, with lesbianism, because in bisexuality as another form of kind of expanding their own sexuality, their own self pleasure. So that's kind of the history up to the modern, up to my theories. And I want to talk to the ladies now. What got you into swinging? Both of you ladies. You're not supposed to hide from the mic. And you can't. It's radio. You can't point at each other. I do believe it was this actual show that got me into swinging. Really? Yeah. Liz share. We're educational. Yeah. No, it was when you had Nina on. Oh, she's good. Yeah. She was, she sort of slipped me into it. But no, it was after. Yeah. She was the introducer. So after hearing your show, I thought, damn, that sounded fun. I want to go try that. And then you did. And then you guys took me there. And it's all your fault. So thank you. And we watched her do things. Naughty things. Naughty things. Naughty things. Naughty things. And that's going to be returned, right? It's your turn. It's my, yeah. It's your turn. We had a swingers party on Saturday. Dude, let me tell you, you want to see her fuck. You want to see that happen. I've heard that more than once. Dude. Hashtag watching I am fuck. I'm going to fucking pick that shit till I'm dead. You know what? Things on the internet that will follow you forever. All right, Az. What got you into swinging? Oh, that's a hard one. That's a hard one. I've been a slut for a really, really, really long time. I just fall in and out of it, but I'm bummed. Doesn't it just fall in and out of you? On a good night. Yeah. But there is, of course. On a good night, it doesn't fall out. Yes, that's true. There's the perpetual curse of always finding that new boy who really just can't get it hard when guys are watching. But anyways. Dude. I digress. It's like, come on, then don't go to a swingers party. Yeah, I know. People will be watching. It's not going to be private. But you know, there are those guys that look at them in their eyes and they try to steal their soul while you're fucking them. You know, I don't think I could keep it hard. You know, you're with us. We just had a little loop. We're good to go. But I just couldn't imagine. It's funny. I hadn't thought about that, but yeah. But no, just my most recent. I just kind of woke up and went, oh, wow. I really miss sex. I really hate everybody. I really miss sex. Let's get back into swinging. Okay. So for you, swinging is a way to get that sexual gratification without any connection. You don't have to date. You don't have to fake that. It's just sex for sex. Yes. And then you just tell them, no, I'm leaving. No, you don't get my number. Yes. My real name is Bethany. Yes. Oh, my favorites, of course. Oh, I knew you. Oh. No, you don't. No, I know your name. I'm sorry. That's really not going to happen. I don't remember you. Of course. And then you have sex and you're like, oh, my God. Now I remember you. I've so done that. I've done that. I've done that where I've kissed somebody. I was like, oh, now I remember you. My best friend that I used to host with has that with a cock sucking because she really loves sucking dicks. So once in a while, she's like, oh, that's who you were. It's fantastic. I'm so scared. Why? There will be a lot of penises at the party. But there will also be a lot of vagina. There will. Will you be making out with people who have vaginas at the party? Will I be making out with their vaginas? Is that your question? Possibly. I like that one, too. I don't. Well, number one, if she's OK with it. I say, yes, it's your birthday. OK. Oh, that's right. Birthday vagina. Birthday vagina. But I mean, I don't know. Like, I've never I've never been like the kind of girl that's like, what? No, no. I'm waiting for you to finish. Oh, yeah. Because I already know where you're going. But finish that sentence. I just that's not the way that I think of the same. That's just I know. That's just not the way that I operate with women. It's just not the way that I operate. She's just a. Chrissy, little good girl right now. OK, I can't. Just so I know that the beautiful ass won't be there on Saturday night, but I know that Dora will be in on this. We should just tie her down and have her legs be spread and let ladies go in on her vagina. Oh. I think that's going to happen. Let's do that. It is. It is. It's part of the birthday celebration. Come on. Kiss the birthday girl's flower. Oh, we're making that happen. Ladies only. She's blushing and hiding. Thanks. This is a great idea. And now you have a camera to hide from, not even just me. You know, the funny thing is when you hide from the camera, you can't hide from me. You little bitch. I just want to say I've done that before. And it went well. I'll bring toys. The glass dildo you like so much. Oh, dear. What? Yes. I like this plan. Oh, yeah. This is happening. Hey, birthday girl. What? I think I'm going to be overwhelmed. Well, you'll probably be a little subspace-y, actually. Probably. What? Yeah. I had questions. I had intelligent things I was going to say. All right. Let's try it now. I can't. It's like there and then the vagina and then the things. A vagina has that power. It does. It wipes our mind. Well, let's talk a little, you know, swinging 101. Yes. Swinging 101. Yes. That. What you got? What you got? You share. Oh, God. I get up on the mic. Sorry. Okay. Swinging 101. What's mostly put on my mind right now is just etiquette. Etiquette. Let's start with basics. Oh, yeah. Let's start with how do we get dressed for a swing party? Because everybody asks me, what the hell do you wear? Ah. Ah. So, for guys, I think it's pretty basic. Wear what you wear on a date. Look good. Yeah. Look desirable. Yes. Women. Yes. Remember, if you're wearing a jersey and some sort of a sweat pant, you're most likely not going to turn us the fuck on. And be clean and trimmed or shaved. You know what? Manscaping is a real problem. It's just an issue. Is it a problem that's like plaguing our society? It is. You don't want to talk about my opinion on pubic hair. You don't. It's on my OkCupid. It's like a fucking serious thing. Anyway, my point being, I had a conversation with a guy and we were talking about pubes because I make a joke on my OkCupid. I think a lot about pubic hair and how I hate it so much and how if evolution was really like up to the job, then we wouldn't have any because I certainly wouldn't after the number of years that I've been trying to remove it. And yet it's still there. It still keeps coming back. It's like a bad movie. It's like a Fast and the Furious. Anyway, so I had a conversation with a guy and it was, you know, he had an expectation that women shaved and were groomed. And I was like, oh, all right. Well, you know, as long as you are, he goes, no. I was like, then bye. Yeah. Because that's no. No. It's tit for tat. It's tit for tat. Yeah. Guys, be groomed. You know, be groomed. If you, you know what? Hey, I'm not, I'm not going to dog on, you know, hairy chests and hairy backs. I'm not telling you to shave your body. That's whatever it is, what that is. I mean, if, you know, some women really like hairy men, that's cool. But nobody, very few, unless they're really naturalists, like hairy junk. No. It's the little hair that gets in between your teeth and you're sucking. So gentlemen, let me just phrase it to you in a way that you're going to understand a little bit better. Imagine. Imagine if you were going to, you know, go down on a woman and I'm not just talking about she has bush, but she's got hair pit and leg hair. How are you feeling? You feeling sexy? Nah, I don't think you are. So that's my point. That's how we feel when we go down and it's like, it's not attractive. Because you're already kind of gagging on the penis. Is that what, I don't know what's happening. No, the penis doesn't go in the mouth at that point. At that point, it's like, whoa, there's a jungle of. I'm not going to lie. I actually. I went into a room with these two boys I was going to play with and I got down and I was about to, you know, do a little porn star double dick action. I know it's a little. It's talented. And, but I, I got down and one was completely shaven and the other. And I actually said, are you serious? Yeah. You're going to go. Yeah. And then I just took care of myself. So take that as a clue. It's important kids. So as a part of it. So go on. We're continuing on the one-on-one etiquette. So there's what you wear. Okay. That's what you wear. Okay. That's the point of that. Pretty underwear. Remember, people are going to see it. Take out the lazy ones. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you wear underwear, it's totally cool. Or like, you know, when, when we saw Dora do all her business, she had this really cute, like, you know, Teddy, like nightie thing. Yeah. I mean, if you're not comfortable being fully naked, that's fully awesome. Cause then you could just lift it up and have your sex and then you can move your boobs out. Also easy access. Totally true. Yeah. Easy access. And then, you know, you do your deed and it's like, you have to put all your clothes back on. Cause you know, whatever. You're just there. You're walking around. You're not fully naked. No. And it's cute and festive. Exactly. It is. It is. It's like you're a present to be unwrapped. Exactly. Fantastic. So we're also talking about attitude. Attitude. And what to expect when you go to a swingers party. Or just don't expect. Or don't expect. I think you do. You have to have that element of this might happen. It might not. But I'm going to go in with the best attitude and I'm going to have fun and I'm going to see some awesome things. And whether I get laid or not, totally depends just on who's there. How you are that night. How they are that night. Just connections. There's no guarantees. There's no. No. You know, and this is how when I've had people that I've said, hey, have you ever been to a swingers party? There's one happening. You should go. Here's the information. And they grill me on, well, who's going to be there and what is it going to look like and how is it going to, and what's it like and do I, am I going to get laid? And it's like, look, it's a party first and foremost. It's a party before anybody takes their clothes off, before anybody does anything. Everybody is chit chatting and getting to know each other. But it's a party. It's a party where most of the people want to have sex that night. That's it. You have a better than good chance of getting laid if you play your cards right. But the truth of the matter is, no woman wants to have sex with an asshole who is demanding it. I've been here five minutes and my dick ain't sucked. You know, that's not going to fly. It's not going to work out. No, I think what more what I see is just the wallflower sitting in the corner, just too shy. He wants to play. He can't get up the nerve to say hello. And I'm sorry, like come early. This is my thing. Come early and talk to people because if I'm going to, if you're going to get laid, if I'm going to sleep with you that night, I'm going to have conversations with you beforehand. I don't care how cute you are and you come in at 12 o'clock at night. Dude, I'm done. I've made my connections. I've felt you out. I've, I've, I'm attracted to you. I've talked to you enough. Then we're, we're going to have those sort of fun times later on, but come early and, and, and, and. And come often. Come often. Yeah, exactly. It's about socializing. It's about, you know, no, it's not random, not glory, whole sex. These are people with whom you are making some sort of a connection, but not just that. Most people that go to swingers parties, I mean, if they are a part of a couple, they all have rules. They have limitations. They have things that are no's and things that are yes's and things, and you want to feel all of that out. So if somebody comes at midnight and I don't know, let's say you've already had sex with three people. Maybe you don't want to have sex again. Maybe there's some arbitrary number that some woman has decided in their head, like three is too many in one night. Yeah. Yeah. You're not going to have four. You know what I'm saying? Three is a lot in one night. I'm not judging. I mean, I've done it. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying it's a lot. Don't, let's not judge because it is what it is. It depends on the three. Let's be honest. That's true. But I'm just saying if you are bringing your A game, which is not a douchey A game, which is like a genuine you are who you are and you're, you know, let's say you're a funny guy or whatever. You gentlemen need to be aware of what gets you in trouble. It's panties dropped. It is not necessarily the best looking guy. You should see the guys I'm having sex with. It is not necessarily the best looking guy. Sometimes it's really funny guy. Sometimes it's a really smart guy. Sometimes it's a really interesting guy. You never know. Sometimes it's a guy that's like quippy and has, you know, you know, always has a one liner. You just never know what somebody's into. Sometimes it's just a really unusual dick. Let's be honest. Well, there's that. There is that. If it's a swingers party and you're showing up with 13 inches or something with a really odd hook or a really weird shape. Those are. That's kind of exciting. Those are valid. But it's, it's unless, unless those people have, you know, reputations like the people of which you are specifically speaking, you're probably not going to know that. My, my point is that this is not a scene out of history of the world part two where Madeline Kahn is walking around saying no, no, no, no. Yes. It's not happening like that. That's not how it works in the swingers parties where you bust out your junk and the biggest junk gets it. Yeah. That's not how it works. Some women don't like super big dicks. No. It just depends. And this question's for you. Oh, go me. Is. Go me. Is a swingers party necessarily a place that you want to go look for a romantic connection? Oh my goodness. Do I want to just, yeah, slap the crap out of every woman who's ever, well, I'm hoping to find someone to hang out with later. No. No. No. No. It's a vacation from dating. Dating is exhausting. It is. So true. Totally. Absolutely exhausting. Swinging is fun. You get to go. You know you're getting laid. Well, at least for women. And it's true. It's so true. And it's just, it's just a time where you get to kind of sit back and talk and, and, and know that you're going to have fun tonight and not have to worry about if he's calling you tomorrow. And all that bullshit that goes along with dating. And I'm not going to pretend I've never hooked up with somebody again from the swing party. And one of them was named Monday and one of them was named Wednesday. So that's about as far as we got. Well, and, and, and to go further than just that, I mean, a swingers party is, is actually a fairly safe place for you to explore in some of the things that maybe you wanted to do that, but you were a little nervous with somebody that you were doing a relationship thing with. You know, let's say you want to, you want to do a little bit of a, you know, a little bit of a possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil possibil wake up in the morning, you walk out the door and you're fisting someone. That's in my head. It could be her hand is always in a vagina. It's true. Her hand is in my vagina. It makes sense. I would love for you to fist somebody. I don't know who's going to be there. I could wear it like a glove. Aislinn might be there. She might go for that. If she's there. That'd be good. Don't look at me. Don't look at me. We tried that. It's not going to happen. We're not going to do that. What else you guys got for Swingers 101? Attitude. Ask first. How to get laid. Not the how to get laid. My biggest thing I always drill into these men's heads is ask first because if you accidentally go up and touch someone when they're just a little something or other, they may have had sex with you earlier, but they're not going to have sex with you now. Right. Your mics are having sex. They are. Oh, that's what's wrong with it. Don't assume anything. On it. That's where it keeps going. But I wouldn't assume anything. If you were having sex early in the evening and so-and-so's moved on and she's doing something else or he's doing something else, don't assume that you can enter into any sort of play that is going on. Don't assume. You can enter into their play. I've had this sort of surprise. You're on me on example. I was at a swingers party. I took a boyfriend with me and we decided that we'd start off the evening together. So we started having sex and I would lay down and all of a sudden two guys are on top of my breasts. And I'm thinking, where the fuck did you come from? Am I okay with this? I'm okay with this if they don't go south. But it was just one of those weird sort of, okay, I'm going to freak out if it, if they try anything else, like this is kind of fun and erotic, but damn, I wish we had this sort of conversation first because now I'm worrying that they're going to try more and then my boyfriend's going to get all on them and like all sorts of shit's going to happen. Well, it's just general etiquette. Don't do that. Don't touch people. Unless they're okay with the, I mean, ask. You're right. Just ask first. Like I put signs up everywhere. Ask before touching. That is one thing I will drill into absolutely everyone's head. Shower and ask before touching. Shower. Yes, shower. Showering is good. You know what? Let me, let me. Smelling good. Smelling good is good. Don't overdo it. Don't overdo it. Don't be that person, that guy or that girl that is just so much cologne or perfume on where you're like, you know, just don't. Just be nice. Just smell good. Smell clean. The truth is you can just come and smell like soap and it's fantastic. I love it. Especially if your bits smell clean. That's very nice to have clean bits. Everybody likes clean bits. I don't like dirty bits. What? Why are you giving me that look? Because you're so obsessed with saying bits. That's because she says bits so fantastically. And like enunciating. I enjoy my enunciation. I've been told I speak too quickly though. This is true. You can get excited. Well, yeah. We're talking about sex. It's exciting. I like a sex. I'm a pretty big fan. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. I still need to watch you have sex. I've seen you fisted, but I need to watch you have sex. I'm sure that can happen at some point. I've seen you have sex. I need to be allowed to have more sex with you. I've had sex with you too. Well, technically by her rules, I've had sex with her. A long, long, long time ago. I didn't know that. Did you not know that? Yes, you did. Oh my God. Yes, you did. I don't remember. Yes, you did. Nancy was my first girl. I only have so much room in my head. Yeah. I can't keep that much more. But I haven't seen you have sex. Okay, that's going to be taken care of Saturday. Let's do that. I mean, I guess by her definition, because I've seen her fist everybody. Yeah. Then I've seen her have sex. No, wait a minute. I have. I have seen you have sex, the whole oral and everything. I've seen it all. Never mind. Done. You can do it again. Right? I'm all for that. Nothing special. No. Should we bring strap-ons on Saturday? Well, I already have several there, but yes, you should bring your own because I believe that you should bring your own strap-on. Well, and on that point, you know, if someone does want to use accessories, they should probably just bring their own to a service. Oh, hell yeah. Or are you that weird person that's like, why are you here with a bag of stuff? You're never that weird person for being prepared unless you're going to a semi-vanilla swing party with a hood that looks like a puppy dog. That might be a little freaky. That's happened. That might. I'm all for it. Yeah, you're making people a little uncomfortable. Like there's semi-vanilla, a little bit. I'm so desensitized. I know. I know. Yeah, it's cool. I pay attention to it for everyone else. I host it. That's true. There's a difference to host and just go fuck. There's some people that get, you know, their panties in a bunch. But see, when you don't wear panties, they don't get in a bunch. Actually, I like to wrap my thong around my wrist so I don't lose it. That's why you just don't wear that. It works really well. Swing your tip right there. It is. It works really good because I like having underwear on just because I do that when I'm in between fucking. And it looks like a cute little bracelet if you decide not to. I'm not joking. I was thinking hair tie, but yeah, I like the bracelet idea. It's pretty cool. Well, there you go. Tips and tricks. That's what we got here. So back to etiquette. Back to etiquette. So obviously... Why do you guys keep pointing at each other? Jesus. Don't touch. So let's talk about when action starts to happen. What is it? What's the basic etiquette for that? Do you find a room? Do you just drop in the middle of the kitchen? Do you... Okay. You know what I'm saying? This is a good thing because I've gotten yelled at for fucking on top of a washing machine. You were here. You yelled at her? There was no room. Where were you supposed to do it? Well, no, not yelled at. I guess there was strong words given to the man I was with afterwards that that wasn't cool. Why wasn't it cool? Because it was an appliance? You know what? I have a brand new washer. I don't want anybody screwing on that, but drop... My dryer? You go for it. I'm just saying. I'll put out signs. Well, there should be signage. There should be signs. There should be signage. Don't fuck on my brand new washing machine. That's it. Good rule of thumb. Know where there's food. Quote of the day. Just keep it away from food. And people get really picky about their pool tables. They're expensive. But you know what? If there's a sheet on it, it's cool. If there's a blanket on it, it's cool. If there's nothing on it, don't do it there. Just don't do it. Don't do it. And jacuzzis. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Don't. Don't. No, don't. No, let's keep the water clean. Don't, you know, lock... Get yourself locked in the bathroom and do that. Because people need to pee. There's only one bathroom or maybe two. And no. Yeah, no. That's just rude. It's all about being out and being an exhibitionist. So, uh... So, then go for a bed. Get your stuff off, man. Go for a couch. Fuck against a wall in the hallway so people have to rub up against you while they walk by. You have a lot of grass at this next party coming up. So, just go wild. Well, and then... And additionally, you have to accept the fact that there will be other people having sex at the same time that you are having sex. That's exciting. There will be a lot... You will be in the middle of sex and you're going to look over and you'll be like, Hey, Dora! Ha! Thumbs up! You know? Who's watching the door? Yes. Let's go. You can't be doing what I'm doing. Can you hurry up? Get done now. I gotta go. Shit to do. Shit to do. Working. What about the person that's not fucking at that time? I mean... It's live porn, Jo. Yeah, it's live porn. Don't pull it out and start masturbating. Oh, good lord, no. Not classy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You wouldn't do that at a strip club. You would be escorted out. Do I need to put a sign up for that? You do. Well, here's the thing. I mean, there should be a lot of general strip club rules. No touching without permission and no, you know, self-gratification. I'm going to add no body glitter. I know that's big. At strip clubs. But dude, I do not want that. I do not want to see that on my carpets. That will never get out. Three months after a party. Uh-uh. A fender. I can totally tell you're an offender. I have a lotion. I was a raver in the 90s. That's just a teeny tiny shimmer. I'll do that. It's a lotion with a teeny tiny shimmer, but she can hardly tell. So it's not hooker-ish at all. I mean, stripper-ish. Hooker stripper. What? There's a difference. There is a difference. There is a difference. But I guess... No, that's... I mean, that's a good point. I guess I'm speaking from the point of view of someone who is often a wallflower. You don't want to get in the way or something. I don't know. This is what I'm trying to figure out. Because now that I'm going to... Instead of just going to parties and hosting parties, I'm an exhibitionist. Or at least I'm outgoing. I can talk to anybody. This woman to my left is the same way. So part of what I want to do in my parties is being able to say, okay, even if you're shy, come talk to me. I will introduce you to anybody. That is not a problem. I will make the introduction. What you do after that point is up to you. But if you just need someone to break the ice and say hello, I'm there for that. I think that that's... I mean, that's a good question then for you ladies. What kind of icebreakers are there at swingers parties in your experiences? It's according to the party. So what have you seen? I mean, I'm curious. There's booze. No. Booze are the best icebreakers. That's probably going to happen. They're helpful. They're helpful. Are we doing jamming shots off of boobs? Yes. Jamming shots. Oh my gosh. I wish I could come. Anyways. You know what? One of these days we're going to have an orgy. And an orgy is not the same as a swingers party. You can come to that. Okay. Because an orgy is where everybody knows each other and everybody wants to have sex and everybody knows sex is going to happen. Whereas a swingers party, you're like, you know what I'm saying? So yeah. No. One of the things that we actually used to do at the parties I was hosting is icebreaker games. And they were really sophomoric and dorky, but they worked. It's like once you're having a best butt contest, everyone's just groped everybody. They're like, oh, look, I've got the best butt. But everyone just finished groping each other and then they kind of wander off. It's fantastic. That's cute. Yes. And then of course, you know, find someone to start fucking early because then it gets everyone else going. It does. It really does. It's like, oh, they're having sex. Let's go. Exactly. That's true. I might take the bullet for that. I'm just saying. We can get people out early, started early. I'll watch the door. I'll find the wallflowers. Done. Pull the wallflowers out. I'm good at that. I can do that. So, I mean, let's, I mean, to ask you, since we're the outgoing people, you're the wallflower. I mean, I can be a wallflower. I'm actually very good at it, but I can. I was a wallflower at the swingers party. I was really good at it. That's true. So for you, I would say passive observer. It's still not wallflower for you. That's true. Yeah. What would work for you? Would someone like Dora or I walking up to you and saying, hey, you know, so how's it going? Having a good time? You know, have you talked to anybody? What do you, can I introduce you to so-and-so? I think that, you know, there would need to be like a very nice balance between not being too pushy, but still being friendly, you know? I can't, I mean, I can't really imagine it because I know you guys and it's like, whatever. Well, and you already know you're going to be tied up spread eagle and your pussy's going to be licked. You're going to love it. You're going to love it. Yeah. Actually, not spread eagle. I'm going to do something with your knees up and your thighs tied open and your ankles tied. That's going to happen. Now I'm just really sad I can't be there to do the rope. I'm going to have to just do it on my own. I'm going to have to wash my rope, so. Well, I mean, it was her that got it dirty, so technically. Other people touched and used my rope too. Oh, just in case. Nevermind. Cooties. Yeah. Well, yeah. But yeah, that's my answer. I guess being friendly, but not pushy. I mean, yeah. You paid to go or whatever, and you're not guaranteed sex, but maybe you don't want sex. Maybe that first time that you're there, you just want to watch. I've got people coming who just want to watch. It's their first party. They're nervous. They're excited, but they're there to observe, and they're good with that. That's awesome. That's great. I mean, that's, you know, an audience really helps with the exhibitionist. It is. It's exciting. They're like, yes. It's a little show. That's part of the reason why you can go. You can get laid at home anytime, but it's more exciting when other people. Yeah. I'm not going to pretend I don't get louder. I'm big on a good stage bed. It's true. It's a performance. I agree. As much as I do normally arch my hips like I did for you, but when I'm in public, oh, it's so much worse. It just keeps going. Why do you say it's worse? I think she becomes a bridge. I am. I'm like this perpetual, squealing, writhing bridge, and I can't stop it because I really, I can't. I never thought I was an exhibitionist. It just happened one day. Like, oh, look, you're all watching me. Go team. Yeah, no. Sometimes it's performance. Sometimes it just happens. No, it's true. Everybody's a little bit different when people are watching. You know, I tend to say more words, not just, oh, God, no, Jesus, no, fuck. There's actual words. I've high-fived people in the audience. Nice. Yeah. Nice. Interaction can be fun. Okay. While we're all on this women empowerment idea, there's something to be said for being able to get naked in front of a room full of people. Because I used to have the worst body image problems, and then. Confidence. Confidence. Confidence. Swinging happened. And it's like, okay, I'm in a nightie. That's cool. Yeah. Oh, I can get naked. That's cool. Like, it's just, you're in this sort of free environment where anything goes, and there's people of all shapes and sizes. So, yeah, get naked. Feel good about it. Get naked in front of people and feel sexy about it. And you know what? That makes it feel, it doesn't, when you see something like that, it's not like, oh, shit, I just walked into a porn. No, it's like, it's real life. Real life people are having sex. Deal with it. No, but I mean, speaking to Dora's point about that female empowerment, it's incredibly empowering if you can shed that belief that because you're not a size zero and you're not some real thin model type body, or let's say you have some strange scar that you've always been, you know, ashamed of, or you've had children and you have stretch marks and all of those things where I very, I know very few women that don't have stretch marks on some part of their body, even thin ones, even thin women. And it's one of those things where we have this belief that that's ugly and it's unsexy and nobody would want a woman like that. And it is empowering. You really do get to kind of take yourself back, your ownership when you can be like, wow, I'm naked and I'm not perfect. Oh, hell no. But I'm desirable. And there's, you know, there's four or five people here that want to have sex with me right now. Exactly. No matter what I look like. And that is, it's so, it really does more for your, not just self-esteem, but for your self, your worth, you shed all of those things that you've been feeding into your basket since you went through puberty. And it is amazing what it does for you to be able to have that moment and be like, wow, perfection doesn't necessarily mean desirable. I can equal desirable and I'm not perfect. And it's wonderful. There's something about living in Hollywood and having to look at all these dance kids that live behind my apartment all the time. And there is something that you said for going, oh yeah, like, let's just not interact Hollywood for a minute and say, oh yes, we are actually still sexy. Thanks. Right. Exactly. Because she could have a fat girl. And you know, fat girls are really in right now. Yeah, they really are. Really are. They really are. But it's, you know, it's, it is true. It's that idea of like, hey, you know, my, my boobs aren't perky like they used to be. Whatever. Everyone's like, oh my God, they're great boobs. Right. That's all that matters. Everybody's different, you know? And, and, and I know that there, we have actually mutual friends that have real issues about their vaginas. Like they think their vaginas are just ugly. And it's like, no, you know, and then if you show your vagina to somebody and it's like, oh my God, it's the prettiest thing. It's so beautiful. And they want to touch it and be around it. You're like, hey, maybe my vagina is kind of pretty. Do you want to show us your vagina, Nancy? Well, what I was going to say, speaking of someone. She would, because she's all waxed now. Speaking of someone that has seen all of the vaginas in this room. That's true, you have. You have. I have not looked up close and personal at doors, but now I feel I need to. Um, and your vagina is next. Different tally, different tally. Fine, fine. But speaking of someone that has seen each of your vaginas, they're all, every vagina is different. And, but I get to say that each one of your vaginas is a fucking flower. Thank you. Thank you. Beautiful, beautiful flower. Such a delicate fucking flower. Yeah, that I'd like to put my fist into. What? Who's like your fist away from my flower? My flower's like an orchid. It bruises easily. I don't want to maim you. You didn't maim me. Shut up. Somebody needs to get their fist in you. You know what? I haven't seen a fisting at a smearish party. Well, let's do this on Saturday. Let's have some fisting. God, I'm missing out on everything. We should make that happen. We can be the fisting party. Let's all do some fisting now. Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet. Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet. I can even sing while you fist. I can even sing while you fist. What the fuck? We'll put a sign on you. Oh my God. Need to be fisted? Ask me how. Oh my God. Am I going to walk around with a sign like that? Is that what's going to... Oh goodness. We might have to work on the wording, but there's something there. Oh my God. That's a kernel of a... You do know how to do it. I do want to get her a button. I feel this humiliation. Just a fisting ask me how button. Yes. It somehow needs to happen like all the time. Hey, what's up? This is awesome. Awesome. I don't even know what's happening. Yeah. There's other things that are going to happen. So our number is 800-893-9562. If you want to share your swinging stories. As if they could possibly add to the beauty and the fantasticness that is happening on the air now. You never know. It's true. You never know. It's true. You never know. It's true. But in the interim. All right. So let's hear some crazy swingers parties. Oh wait. No, I was wondering about destination because everybody's going to ask me now. I've only been to... I've been to a lot of swing parties. I've been to a lot of swing parties. I've been to a lot of swing parties. I've been to a lot of swing parties at a private residence. Oh. I used to host them in clubs. You used to host them at clubs and I know they happen down at hotels from time to time. Oh, those are awful. They're just just awful. Yeah, that's what I would think so. Yeah. They really are. I mean, mind you, they can be amusing, but I don't know. I'm waving at the camera. You are waving. You're so cute. I thought you were getting my attention. I'm like, oh God, what did I do? No, it's because I'm looking at you and then out of the corner of my eye I can see them and I know they can see me and I can see your hand. What? No, there is something pretty pathetic because hotel parties are never as large as you want them to be. And so it ends up being like, God, the last one I went to was five guys and two girls. Ooh. And she was... I believe that technically is a gangbang. I know, right? Well, it... I wouldn't call it a party. Not really because they didn't really accomplish much. I've been told since I did... My first orgy was five guys and two girls and they said technically it's a gangbang. I'm like, damn it. No, you know what? I don't know. I don't... I don't... With that ratio, if it was like five guys and one girls, I can constitute that a gangbang, but two girls, nah. And it really... I just started by playing with a girl. But I know they were so... They were like sad, but not... That's what I did too. I know. It works well. I mean, there's a girl there. But there's just something like... The people that I've noticed the difference in the guys that go to the hotel parties is they're just... They've got weird expectations and they're actually even worse wallflowers than at clubs. Oh, yeah. We've seen those creepy guys at dungeons. We know who they are. Yeah. It's the same thing. I don't know what you're talking about. You guys all know. You guys know. The people that I know, I was like, you've just popped into all of your heads. Yes. Yes, I did. So what is a public club like when you're wandering in off the street? Well, technically, to make it legal, it's never really off the street public. It's always technically we're a private party so that we can't officially get raided. Exactly. But they're a little bit different because we also... We always get the guys that are walking in. We always get the guys that get pissed after 10 minutes that their cock's not wet. But they're a little bit different just because it's got kind of a more open atmosphere. There's not... It's not... You don't feel like you're in a house. You can kind of sort of do a little dancing and you can generally feel kind of more like a stripper, I've noticed. It's one of those weird things because there's always somewhere to show off when you're in a club because everything's raised a little bit. It's not like a bed on the floor. It's always a bed on a stage or this bed in this room. On something. So it helps with the performance atmosphere. If that was even words. What are we looking at? We're looking at... Evie sent that to me. Aw. He's so romantic. Isn't he? He's so romantic. YouTube links and then porn pics. That's what I get. Old fashioned love story right there. I wonder if he's trying to tell you something with this picture. I think that he is. Most likely. So this picture, if you can see it, and if you can't see it, it's probably because you're not on livestream.com. And you haven't searched for Skid Row Studios. But it's one girl eating another girl's pussy. And then the guy is fucking this girl from behind. I wonder if he's trying to tell you. That you need to eat Nancy's pussy? Is that where you're going with this? Well, he fucks you. Wow. Oh. That is one of my favorite things to do, actually. Well, there you go. I'd be monkey in the middle on that. You can go ahead and tell him I'm game. What? Because we know he can go for it. He can go for it. He can go for it. He can go for it. He can go for it. He can go for it. He can go for it. He can go for it. He can go for it. He can go for it. He can go for it. Fuck. Intellectual kink. And again and again. What did you say? Intellectual kink what? Helping people get laid. Yes. Since when? Yes. We actually do help a lot of people get laid. We're very good at that. It's a special skill. Generally more in the LA area. But we try to help the people outside of the LA area. We love you, all of you people outside of the LA area. I mean, there are resources. In fact, I'll put together some and I'll like throw them out one of these days when I have them all together. Where do you find a swing party if you're looking for one? Can I say the Craigslist is pretty popular. Yeah. Craigslist is really popular for smorgasbord parties. But you know, it's hit or miss. We know that the one that's happening Saturday is a totally legit party. But sometimes they're hotel parties and stuff like that. But they're pretty obvious when they're hotel parties. And sometimes they're just in somebody's house or whatnot. But there's also something that you said for swinglifestyle.com. Yes. That's a good one. People forget that somehow. But it's exactly what it's there for. Yeah. And then there's... There's the... And... Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And blah, blah, blah. I can't remember what it's called. I looked. I had it on my computer, which I didn't bring with me. And it actually... You can actually search for swingers clubs and groups. Oh. Within your region, within the USA and Canada. I know that one. They might have international... It's like the biggest swingers organization there is. That's fantastic. And that is like a subset, I believe, of this big group. Whatever this group is. Because I don't remember. I've also found them. I'm not going to lie. I'm on alt and adult friend finder. And I've advertised on... Oh, God. What's the name of that site? I forget. That's not very helpful. I know. It was so close. It was like right there. And then it's gone. We've been tweeting the hell out of this one. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a lot on Twitter. And not... I mean, I've also been... Like people that I know. Of course, mostly I know guys. Like I know a lot of guys. And so I'm like, hey, you know. I'm not going to lie. Guys that are trying to date me. I'm like, hey. So we can't hook up. But hey, there's a swingers party. Oh, I've already done that. Why don't you come to the swingers party? I'll be there. Oh, so we can have sex. It's totally possible. You're the seventh guy. But yeah. I'm going to be there. Yeah. And then my favorite is so, you know. So we're going to go as a couple. So I get it for... No, honey. No. We're not going as a couple. No. You're hosting. You're going to be busy. I'm going to be busy. Be busy. We've got to take care of that one over there. What? Party. Oh, yeah. It's for parties. It's for a birthday. There's a lot that's going to happen. What? There's going to be so much. Do vaginas and cupcakes mix? Yes. Probably not. No? Yes? Yes? Vaginas and cupcakes mix. Well, okay. Turning a vagina into a cupcake works really well. Breasts into cupcakes works really well as well. Oh, I'm down for that. I'm sorry you're looking at me like that. I don't know. I love you. What do you know? Nothing at all. You're a fucking liar. She's so funny. I'm sorry. I was texting. Yeah, you were. Were you texting about how this could happen? The quote was Nancy says she's in. All right. Good game. So there's that. So there's that. And since you're like living at my house, that makes it easier. Yes. You don't have to fucking schedule. It's like, hey, can you like last night? Was it last night? No, it was the night before. Was it last night? So you come in to say hi. You could just be, oh, while you're here, would you mind, you know? That was last night where I was like, hey. And she's like, hey, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey. And it's like, hey, we're hanging out. We're naked, but come on up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So I'm way, way, way, way, way downstairs, right? Right. And I'm like, fuck, it's late, whatever. And I'm trying to like put on my Netflix. And I'm like, what the fuck? Where's the Wi-Fi? The awesome Wi-Fi? And I texted her and I was like, hey, when he's not pounding you into the wall, can you press the reset button right next to your bed, please? Okay, thanks. So. And then she responds with, sorry, it got unplugged while we were fucking. So the plug that the Wi-Fi is in is on one of those things that's right underneath my headboard. And don't ask me what happened, but somehow like she and I just, and it was out. I'm pretty sure anyone who's ever had good sex understands. Right. And then how that works. I don't know how it happened. Magically. I heard it come out and I was just like, ah, fuck it. I don't give a shit. And then, but she cared because she had no Wi-Fi. I was like, I don't need the Wi-Fi. Excellent that you're checking your phone during sex or like right after sex. Right in between sex. That's what she was doing. I didn't turn the sound off and she texted like four times in a row and I was like, and EB knows her and I'm like, well, that's Nancy. I should see what's going on. Really? While they're having sex, you're like, I can't wait. Dude, I've live tweeted their sex. I felt like whatever, me texting is not a huge deal. Now, would it have been bad if she just kind of snuck in and like reset the thing while you were screwing? Now that this has been clarified that she's in, I think it's kind of appropriate. I think so too. Yeah. Before then. But now I would say. Well, I'm not going to be able to live tweet during that because I'll be monkey in the middle. I'll fucking live tweet that shit. Are you going to be able to do that or are you going to be distracted? No, I can do it. It's 140 characters. You should be able to do that when you're like half conscious. Well, there is a good voice to text program. More, more, more. Just turn off the profane filter. Yeah. All right, kids. We're running out of time. We're running out of time. What's the website for the swingers party on Saturday? Oh, good Lord. Just, just email me. Email Eden house, SFE at gmail.com and I will get you the information. It's in the San Fernando Valley, the home, the home of porn in general. We're going to be making our own. Oh yeah. But there'll be no cameras. No. So don't get this. It's in your head. Live porn. In your head. It's just live porn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And obviously you can hit us. I'm sorry. You can hit us up. You can hit us up on the Twitter for, obviously I'm at insidious muse. And then we've got over here at the lady is Adora. And then over there we've got at Azrael, A-Z-U-R-E-L-L. Okay. Okay. And then obviously service let, but you know, so hit us up if you have information. As doesn't actually know about the party, but she has the information, but it's really the information. The information is either going to come from, from Adora or from me. Did you know about parties? I do know about parties. We know about parties and partying and party girls. Love it. Lots of fun. Real quick before we, before we go there, I just want to get some business out of the way. Really, if you have a fast, like your craziest swingers story. Ah, lifestyle lounge.com. Thanks. And if you're not tuned into the video right now, you're really sad that you're not tuned in. You're missing bouncy boobies. You're missing some of the craziest swingers stories. I'm done now. Okay. No one else is talking. So I'm just going to say something. Not going to say it's definitely craziest. Just, just, but I actually really, really enjoyed once because I was getting eaten out by some guy and I was talking to a friend of mine and we were poking at each other who was getting eaten out by someone else. And then the guy eating me out, randomly had this tea, tea girl come up and start sucking his dick. And then the girl, my friend who was also said, Hey, trade. And so we did. That was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Musical. It was kind of hot. It's like Alice in Wonderland. It was. It was lovely. She's like, he's lovely. How's yours? Oh, good. That's right. Clean cup. Clean cup. Clean cup. Move down. I don't have a crazy singer story, but when, when we went and there was the man with the big, big, big one. The 13 inch penis. Yeah. That just sounds painful. He's called the hammer. He's rumored to be there Saturday night, but I haven't gotten his official RSVP. I heard that. I heard the rumor as well. Well, well, I had heard about this man and I thought, oh my God, who's this scary man? And like, I met him and he was so nice and so quiet. And like, he was just like, I wanted to hold his hand. I don't think you have to be loud when you're carrying around a 13 inch cock. Yeah. I think that speaks for itself. You know, walk silently and carry a big stick, but he, God made him take that literally. But at the same time, I mean, that's gotta be some like the scariest thing some women have ever seen. Like, oh my God. And it keeps coming. It keeps coming. It's not ending. This thing is getting bigger and bigger and it's not stopping. I've said no. You're still seven inches away from me. I want to hug you. You're like so far away. So far away for the sex. Well, I like that I can, you know, that it's not threatening, that I can go and talk to people and not be afraid of them and their penises. You don't have to be afraid of people and their penises in general. How many people in the past, let's say six months, have you met that had a penis that you actually genuinely liked? That you've said, I like you and you have a penis and that is saying something and it's happened less than five times. Yeah. But what before that? Even less. See what I'm saying? It's getting better. It's getting better. It's true. See, your odds are. And you also don't talk to a lot of penises. You really spend your time around women, which is fine. I'm not saying you go head to head with a penis. That's weird for you. Well, not for me. For the rest of us. For you, it's weird. What's wrong with you? Full circle. Full mother fuckers. You just keep saying head and I want to know when my boyfriend's getting home tonight. Sorry. A lot of sex. Anyway. Yeah. I mean, so we talked a lot about etiquette and about, you know, what to do to get laid and expectations. And the truth is that managing your expectations when you're going to a swingers party or that is really important. Obviously, we're trying to give you some information. There's lifestylelounge.com. There's, what's the one you had? The swingers? Swinglifestyle. Swinglifestyle.com. Because if you want to find a swingers party, I mean, that's great for those of us that are going. Those of you that are like, oh my God, this sounds like heaven. You need to do some research and find out if you have something in your area. And that's kind of how that goes. And I'll randomly try and find some information and tweet it out as it comes. That's C-O-M-E-S. 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