Dominatrices discuss kink, art, and live flogging

We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about some kink, some sex, some flogging, some all sorts of stuff, cross-dressing, all sorts of stuff. We've got right next to you, we've got the communatrix. Hello. Lady Anastasia. And it's so nice to meet you. It's a pleasure to meet you. I believe the word is dominatrices. Because I was wondering what the pro for dominatrix is. I believe that's it. Dominatrices? Dominatrices, yes. Like a math. Okay. So we have two dominatrices here on the show. And that was Lady Anastasia. It was obviously a stickler for grammar. And we have Allison Lay, who's been on the show before. You were on my birthday show. Yeah, pleasure to have me back. Thank you. Nice to see you. Yes, it is a pleasure to have you back. And it was, well, as most men and women, when they meet you, I was in trance when I met you. And we've run into each other a couple times. And it's great to see you again. Thank you. Well, you're not only a dom, but you switch. You do all sorts of stuff. And you've got an art exhibit coming up. Art exhibit, kinky playtime. Crazy. It's going to be a lot of fun. Smut. Yes, March 28th. It's a gallery night. I've got about just over two dozen artists, half dozen performers, tarot card reader, live painting, all sorts of stuff. Right. Is there going to be kinky stuff going on too? Yeah, I've got a couple different BDSM demos. You'll have an opportunity to play with the dominatrix and test out different toys. I'm really intending it to be for, I mean, not only the people who have been to kink events before, but newcomers, people who maybe are just starting out. Right. And that's smart. There's a lot of people just starting out. Before we get started, I've got to do my sponsors real quick. Sponsored by Doomy's Home Cooking. And that food is better than a slap in the ass. I'll tell you that. Doomy's Home Cooking. Doomy's Home Cooking is the best vegan food. You wouldn't even know it's vegan. 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And so if I'm going to a party and I'm cooking, you know, I can either cook vegan or I can, like, make my friends cry. And I don't want to do that, so I cook vegan. So everyone can eat some. So you've got a lot of vegan friends. A lot of vegan people. That's how Doomy's Home and Cooking got started, because Phil Doomy. Yes, Nicole? Did you know deer eat birds? Yeah, you told me that last week. Deer eat birds. I saw that. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. They recorded it, like, in a hidden camera. Cows eat something, too? Cows eat that. They eat small birds, too, whenever they're lacking protein. So, yeah. Do deer, do they catch birds? Well, they tested it out, right? Because they're like, is it accidental? Are they just going after these little tufts of grass and the birds happen to be there? No. They went actively after the birds. And are these just, like, the birds that are, like, wounded or, like, little, just little bites? What, like, out of the air? How does? 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This is close to free as you're going to get. All right, go on. Okay. I think Leigh Ann Stolzian, our producer Jenny, are having a moment. But while you are having a moment, Allison, so I'm glad you're back. I guess the moment was for me, not for her. Okay. I didn't know what the moment was. Our producer Jenny's flirting with our guests. I don't know what's going on. It's an important matter of purse. And that, you know, yeah, of a purse. Okay. Okay. So I keep seeing these things on my Facebook. I just smacked the phone on the table. I keep seeing these things for my Facebook. Smut. But let me just get into Allison's story because you were on my birthday show and we barely had time to talk to you. Yeah, that was a really busy night. You had a lot of guests. We had a lot of guests. So you are a professional switch? Yes, I am. Okay. So how does that happen? How do you become a professional switch? Well, I started as a professional submissive. Okay. Actually, I started as a stage bottom about seven years ago now. Okay. Playing at the nightclubs. All right. And who talked you into that? No one talked me into it. I talked myself into it. I happened to have a friend at the time who was a professional dominant. Perhaps you've heard of him, Sir Nick. I know Sir Nick, sure. Yeah. Everyone knows Sir Nick. I used to play with Sir Nick. He was a good friend of mine from the Renaissance Fair. And so I went to see him play. Oh, no. I am one of those. Was he playing at the Renaissance Fair? No, no, no. He worked there. I don't know. I was at the Renaissance Fair once. We don't talk about that. I went to the Renaissance Fair once. My ex-girlfriend, she was in the brothel. So there are a lot of weird things that happen at the Renaissance Fair. This is very true. Yeah. So you were a nerd. Yes, yes. I still am a nerd. But that's how I met Sir Nick. And I went. I went to one of the nightclubs he was performing at. Was he wearing armor at the time? He was wearing leather. He wasn't wearing high heels. So it's a little different, but not much. Okay. Was he wearing a shirt? Sometimes. Ah, Sir Nick. Oh, Sir Nick. Oh, that's Sir Nick. Funny. So you subbed with Sir Nick for a while. Yeah, I wasn't in sub. We just played. You just played. Okay. But yeah, it was his stage bottom at Perversion when it was at Bordeners for about a year or so. Yeah, I remember that. And I stayed in the lifestyle. And eventually I actually called Anastasia, who's a personal friend of mine in the real world, and was like, you do this. Do you think I can do this? And I was freaking out. And she calmed me down. Do you remember this call, Lady Anastasia? You know, I actually don't. It's true. But, you know, I'll take your word for it because it is, it's not, you know, if you have the passion for it and if you have the interest in it, then yeah, you can do it. Like, it's not, there's not, you know, some obscure qualification that you need to get started. Like, it's a community that still believes in the, or that still practices the principle of mentoring people and, you know, teaching people personally and bringing them up. So were you guys, like, trained originally? Like, was there, like, a training period when you were first breaking out or? Well, for me, I started as a submissive. And like I said, I'd been in the lifestyle for a while. They test you when you first come in. How do they test you as a submissive? As a submissive, they just kind of see where your pain tolerance lies. Like, make sure you can actually deal with it. How was the pain tolerance, Lady Anastasia? Pretty good? I don't think I had the honor of testing this one personally. Well, maybe we'll test that later. But then how did you switch and become a dom? Um, well, eventually I just got to a point I had been there for about a year. Um, and I was just kind of, I was ready. Management came to me and they're like, so we think you're ready. And they give you another test. This management sanctuary or? Yes. Okay. Um. Sanctuary, by the way, if you don't know, because we got people worldwide, including Russia. We've always had a big Russian audience, solid Russian audience. But sanctuary is the biggest play club for this type of thing. In Los Angeles. Yes. We're the largest professional dungeon in Los Angeles. Okay. That, that, that, not a play club, but our largest professional dungeon in Los Angeles. It is where the kinksters go. If you go, if you're looking to, and this is where you're going to have smut. Yes, absolutely. Okay. So I, every time I say something, you cringe when I try to describe sanctuary. I was there once. I know I'm, I'm, I'm just trying to soften, soften it for our audience. I don't want, I don't want to scare anybody away. So, so then, so sanctuary, they're like, you're ready to start whipping some ass or what? Um, yeah. I was just, I was ready. I was ready. And, uh, they, they gave me the test, made sure I was good. And, uh. Now they do this for all submissives or just you? Um, I mean, they, anyone who wants to move up is allowed to test to see if they're ready. So is that a move up? It's not a lateral move? Uh, is it submissive to switch? Yeah. I mean, that really, I think depends on how you look at it. I wouldn't say that it's one is better than the other. We're all very necessary. We're all doing what we're supposed to do. Right. But when you're talking about the hierarchy of, of S and M, I mean. Yeah. Yes. A mistress is above a switch, is above a submissive. So. And you use your real name, I think. Or don't you? I, uh, I like to use part of it. Okay. So, but, but you don't spell L-A-Y or anything like that or something? L-E-I-G-H, like Vivian. I got it. Okay. So that's all. So it's a gone with the wind thing. Okay. Now I got it. So that lady, uh, lady, uh, Anastasia, you're from Russia? I am. I was, uh, I was born in Moscow, actually. Yes. I'm a former Soviet. And how long did you, how long did you live in Moscow before you went to the United States? Um, I, not very long. Oh, okay. Cause I didn't, you know, I didn't detect that accent that, uh, you know, that Boris and Natasha thing that, actually I find very alluring. Do you put it on? Well. Yes. Yeah, of course, right? Absolutely. Let's hear that a little bit. Well, sometimes I have clients who want to do the, they want, they want to do the, the torture scene. The interrogation scene. Right. Where they have a, they have a secret code or a list of names. And I need to find it out because I am a super spy, badass kind of chick. It gets that elaborate? From Soviet Union. Excuse me? It gets that elaborate? Well, whatever. That's not that elaborate. Come on. This is basic mechanics. Right. Are there guys like scripting it out like he's James Bond or something? Like. Exactly like he's James Bond. Yes. No. There's a long script. The awesome was not a script. You have scripts that are this elaborate too? Oh, yes. I've had some very interesting role play clients for sure. Is there any examples you could share? I probably shouldn't just in case. They might be listening. I wouldn't want to embarrass them too much. Any spy dramas like that or? I haven't done spy dramas. I've been a captured queen. Right. Did they liberate you from a tower? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. We used to have used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used I think sometimes about half of my job is trying to not laugh. What's funny when you're a dom or when you're a sub? I'd say a lot of being a dominant is hysterical. But that's okay because that's the fun part. There's no complaining about being a dominant for the most part. But you definitely can't laugh. You'll lose the mistress edge if you just go. Oh, no. If you laugh, you have to have the dominant evil laugh. That's the trick. I want to hear this. Oh, let's see if I can sum it that up. Yes. I mean, I tend to just go. It's a chuckle. It goes up. Yes, it's an up instead of down. You must have a laugh, right? That's just creepy. I've heard that before. I have more like a hyena shriek and a witch cackle. Oh, let's hear it. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. But no, I think the secret to the mistress laugh, and I apologize. It's probably going to like fuck with your mic when it actually happens. But I think the secret to the mistress laugh is just to laugh with confidence as opposed to suppression. Right. And then you're not like. Not like my creepy laugh. You're not like trying not to get in trouble. You're laughing at them because they're pathetic and their penis is small. Really? Silly. Yes. Give me a penis is small laugh. No, that's okay. Give me a penis is small laugh. I'm talking about a dominatrix. Your penis is a small laugh. I mean, often they're the same thing. Well, okay. So, um, this, I'm sorry. I, I, I can't think. It'll come. It'll come around. You're very funny. You've made me laugh already. Next time I won't suppress it. I'll cackle directly into the microphone. Oh, please. Everyone can hear the evil witch shriek. So, so when did you move from Moscow? I didn't even catch that. You were a little girl. You were. Yeah, I was, I was pretty young. I moved with my mom. I moved with my parents. Not of, not of my own free will. And, uh, and I, I learned. Nothing in Russia is putting on your free will. I mean, come on. But they took her with them. That was nice. They could have left you there. Oh yeah. No, it was very kind of them. Were you under 10? Over 10? Were you. Um. Do you remember anything of Moscow? Cause I'm trying to. Yeah. No, I remember a little bit. Um, I was, I was under 10. I was under 10. It was cold. It was cold. It was cold. It was miserable. It was cold. It was cold. It was cold. It was cold. It was cold. And, uh, there's this thing that happens where, um, in the winter you have like four hours of daylight, give or take. Um, so the seasonal depression is just. Okay. So it's, so it's like Seattle, but there's no coffee. Yeah. But like. Vodka. Lots and lots of vodka. Lots of vodka. Yeah. Cause I, I find, I find, uh, Russian women very sexy. I find Eastern European women sexy. It's funny cause everybody that is from an Eastern European country thinks their country has the hottest women. When I meet a Russian girl. Russian girl. Russian girl. Russian girl. Russian girl. Russian girl. Russian girl. Russian girl. That's horrible Russian accent, but. I was like, is that a, that wasn't Russian. Russian girl. And then you go to. That was like Delhi Jewish. Yeah. Yes. Well, and then. Not a lot of Russian Jews. There are a lot of Russian Jews. I was thinking. Czech Republic women think they're the hottest. Polish women think they're the hottest. And. The hottest. The hottest. The hottest. Them Boston Jews. I was, I was sort of, yeah, I was sort of dating like a Czech Republic girl and a Russian girl at the same time. And I was kind of playing them against each other. They were all like, I'm like, you know, the Czech Republic girls think she's hotter. No, no. Russian girls are hotter than the other way around. So I don't know. Borderline political. Yeah. So. But so, so you, so how did you get into the lifestyle? Um, are you familiar with a dating site called OKCupid? Wait a second. You became a, you became a dominatrix because of OKCupid? Yes. Absolutely. That's interesting. Okay. She must have met someone very interesting. And by the way, you looked at me like, oh yeah, I've seen your profile. So. Are you on there? See, here's how I feel about OKCupid. That's like the serious one. You kind of might be looking for something on OKCupid. So I wouldn't judge that. Tinder is just the. Like, yeah. She gave me a look like I saw, I saw that message you gave me. Oh, silly boy. Okay. So a long time ago in the galaxy, far, far away, I joined OKCupid. Um, not hoping to find true love or anything like that, but just sort of like, uh. You were horny. Well, no, it's, yes, that too, obviously. You wanted to white in your dating pool. Um, yeah, like I've moved around a lot and like, you know, I wasn't really, you know, high school friends weren't really around. And you were in LA. I was in LA. Um, and I found this cute girl, um, on OKCupid and, uh, she was, she was really sexy and she had a boyfriend and of course they were monogamous. Um, but she talked in her profile about how she worked at a dungeon as a professional submissive. Right. Um, as a professional submissive. I have a question real fast. Why was a monogamous girl on OKCupid? Uh. To make new friends. Um, they had met on OKCupid. That's totally what that site's for. Sorry, go on. Okay. Monogamy has a different, uh, different definition if you're on OKCupid. So she was, she was looking for, she was looking for girls and you were looking for girls. Um. That's OK. No, she, I mean, she really wasn't looking for anyone. Um, like she and her boyfriend were, I think, open to sharing a young woman maybe or something. I don't know, but. Monogamously. Um, but they didn't, but they didn't make that explicit on their, whatever. This is getting too personal. Anyway. Um, at any rate, she, uh, yeah, she mentioned that she worked as a professional submissive at a dungeon. Right. And she talked about how like, uh, you know, she hung around attractive women in their lingerie all day. And I was like, well, I think I'm qualified to do that. Right. Um, so, you know, I went, I was in fact qualified to sit around attractive women in lingerie all day. I've been applying for that job all year and for some reason it doesn't happen. Oh, well. Specific qualifications. Yeah. You had to be a hot, hot, hot woman like the two of you. Or Nicole. Nicole would qualify, right? Yes. Absolutely. Oh, absolutely. Goodness. Thank you. And that's, uh, and I think we should say, I mean, you both, uh, you both, uh, very fluided sexually. I would say. Thank you. I thought all sexuality had, had lots of fluids involved. I was like, what, what did that mean exactly? You like girls and, uh, I don't even know if you like guys, but I know you like girls. Guys too? Very astute. Right. Yeah. Sometimes. Right. Right. Right. I mean, I saw. Depending on the person. Allison, Allison, we already talked about your, uh, uh, you like girls and, and, and, and, well, you're a poly, right? Yes. So you've got like girls and guys like swirling all over you all the time, right? Like the whole family there? Not quite. No, I have three partners right now. That's, oh, that's what it was. Okay. Hello. Hey, Beth. That was, congratulations. Yes, yes. Very nice. Three partners. Three partners. partners gets to hear the dark martial theme uh again so yeah so so it's all guys or all girls there's guys girls there's two girls guys uh right right now they're all gentlemen okay um but no one says it has to be that way it was the same it was the same gentleman as when i saw you in november or have you two of them yes okay so you swap one out oh no i only had two in november okay she met someone new she met someone new uh but but you but uh you like girls too yes i do right so the uh the family brings girls in um no it doesn't really we're not predatory i just happen to have relationships with all of these people right there's nothing wrong with that trust me if i could do it i would but and the other thing is uh lady anastasia i mean on your on your uh uh twitter and all the the because you know i do a lot of research on my uh female beautiful female guess nicole tell you i do a lot of research a lot of research yeah is your google foo strong you i'm sorry is your google strong i google foo strong and uh i i i did google you a bit and and also uh allison was telling me you do a uh it's you do an interesting night at sanctuary i i don't i my descriptions have been so bad so far please you describe what you do at sanctuary is it once a month um no it used to be uh and then uh we switched to to once every two months so uh it is a queer uh queer play party and uh uh queer cabaret so we have uh drag and we have burlesque and we have boy last and right because i was gonna say queer and i didn't yeah i wanted you to say it first um yeah so it's a it's um uh the la scene is kind of as as far as scenes go tends to be a little bit heteronormative and so this is like a deliberately queer and trans focused space where we try to we try to make it all about all about that right and you cross dress um yes i am i i host the event as a drag king and what's the name? i am i host the event as hp love shaft and because i i mean i not to be indelicate but uh let's take a lot to strap those down i mean you're very well endowed uh up top the picture is really good sweet i had a hard time deciding which picture to use on the little flyer i made i'm like i'll go with this because i figured you'd show up dressed like that but you were sexy either way yeah it was good oh well thank you so much um yeah no the the drag thing definitely is a thing that i'm really excited about and i'm really used to used to used to used to used to used to used to used to used to used to used to used to used to used to used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used I'm usually lazy and I go with like just a tiny little flavor saver. Oh, okay. Patch like little. Does it match your hair? It does. Yeah. Awesome. It's usually one color or another. Usually five. Okay. Just a little. I like that. You look good with a goatee. Talk into the mic, Nicole. Can you not hear me? I can hear me on the headphones. I know, but it's very, very light. I'll bring it back. Just so you know. Nicole's, it's a whiskey, not wine drink. Show them your shirt, by the way. Yeah. It's, you're dangerously close to being killed off in my novel. Yes. My friend Kevin got it for me and he knows that I don't actually, if I don't like you, I don't put you in my work, but I was, when he saw the shirt, he thought of me. Nicole is a horror writer. If you go to Nicole6.com. By the way, my stag party story, I put the antlers in there. You'd actually love stag party. Oh my God. Yeah. It's based off Hotel California, but the vixen is a vampire. A vampire sucking hotel thing has antlers. Yeah. It's pretty cool. We're having a moment here. I know. I was like. If you go to Nicole6.com, S-I-X-X, I'm sure everybody's going to exchange. Stag party isn't there, but it's on Lost Anarchy's site because they put it out in their magazine and they also put a digital version online that you can read. So. Yeah. Wow. And Nicole6.com is the rest of it. Right. That's excellent. I can't wait to look into that. Yeah. So anyway. Anyway, so, but the dragon, are you still doing it? Are you still doing it? Yes. Are you still doing it? Yes. Absolutely. So our next event is on April 4th. Okay. And it is called Clitterature. Clitterature. Clitterature. Nicole? I don't, it just sounds better than the vagina monologues. Right. Right. So Clitterature, tell us about, tell us about Clitterature. Well, Clitterature as a term has a history that's only very loosely connected to what we're doing. We're just trying to make a dirty pun on the word literature. Right. So it's a book themed night and we're going to have a, we're going to have a, we're going to have a, we're going to have a, we're going to have a, we're going to have a, we're going to have a, we're going to have a, we're going to have a, we're going to have a, we're going Well, I bet you everybody there knows where the clit is. The word runs very smoothly over the tongue. Sure. Clitterature. I can say it all night. Clitterature. Well, I do hear that you're a cunning linguist, so. Yeah. Very nice. Very nice. So, so, so this is going to be, this is going to be a literature themed. It's a literature themed play party and doors open at nine o'clock and then, you know, you walk in, you walk around, there's a bar, there's a smoking area. It's a lovely. It's a lovely, biggest dungeon in LA like Alice, like, like Miss Allison mentioned. So I could walk in as Mark Twain and it'd be, people would be pretty hot for it, huh? Oh my God. That would be amazing. I might, I might just. Who knows? You should do that. That would be great. Of course, I'll probably, I'll probably just get, put the gray wig on and say, ah, shit, I'm Norman Mailer and just fucking walk in, but. Or, or, yeah, I was going to say, if you want to be comfortable and you're, you don't mind doing the white spray, then you could do a George R. R. Martin and you can just like threaten to kill off everyone. Just throw on some glasses. Just throw on some glasses. Right, right, right. I'm dangerously close to killing you off in my dog. No, no, no. We've come full circle. What day is that? Wait a second. So that's a Sunday or a one day? It's a, it is a Saturday night. It's a Saturday night. Okay. Oh yeah, because we're doing a one. Saturday April 4th. Do you want to borrow the shirt? Yeah, I would fit into that shirt. That's really good. No, you would because like I tie it up. That's how I make these. Oh, excellent. That is an orphan. It was much bigger when I started. No, it's not. It's not. It sounds like a great time. And yeah, it just. We'd love to have you. So there's a show. Right. And the show starts at 11. And you should, you should try to get there before 11 so you can catch the show. The other thing I was going to ask you, when you dress in drag, do you, is there a strap on involved? Is there? No, no. A strap on is for sex. Because if I wanted to wear a strap on when I did drag, it would be like walking around with an unnaturally hard erection for hours. She's saying. It would be very uncomfortable. Walking in the rain. Sock? Just saying. I used to, I used to do a sock, but I, my, one of my partners was, was very offended by this and, and. Male or female? I, pardon? Male or female? Non-binary. What does that mean? Oh, I think, I think, please, please describe that. Because once again, I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to get into it. What's non-binary? Non-binary is somebody who identifies, as neither male nor female, or, or both male and female. Yeah, genderqueer, like trans-feminine, trans-masculine, like non-binary is a, it's an umbrella term for people who don't identify as exclusively male or exclusively female. Okay. I know what that, yeah. My, I've heard it as genderqueer or gender-neutral. Never heard it as non-binary. No, we're, we're learning something new every day. Mm-hmm. But, and Allison, so, but smut is, is my favorite word. March 28th. Yes, yes it is. So tell us what's going to happen at smut. And this is open for members and non-members, both these, both these nights, right? Yes, yes. Both of their nights are open, so. So, so, so what's going to happen at smut? So what's going to happen at smut is I'm opening the doors of the dungeon to the general public and turning it into a gallery. Right. I know you said that before, but I'm just trying to get more detail, like what type of art's going to be there, what type of play is going to be there, shows that are going to be there, you know, performances. I mean, all sorts of things I'm going to have. I mean, I've got photographers, artists, authors, poets, all sorts of different artists. I've got a couple different BDSM shows. I've got the Hollywood Jane Review is going to be doing burlesque. Oh, wow. As well as I've got a Grindr girl, Bella Bathory, who's also one of our mistresses. She's going to be doing a Grindr girl act that's going to be awesome. Right. Toy vendors, professional photo studios, studio opportunities to try live sketching or nude modeling. I mean, I'm trying to run the full gamut of art because we have such a large space. Are you going to be nude modeling? No, I'm going to be hosting. I think I'll be a bit busy. Okay. Just curious. Besides, all those pictures are on Facebook anyway. They are, and it's interesting. I think I may have stumbled on your Tumblr, too. Oh, yeah, I've got a couple of them. You've got a couple of Tumblr. There was one, I don't know if it was you, because there's an author, Alison Lee, that does a lot of stuff. I don't know if it was you, but there's an author, Alison Lee, that does a lot of stuff. I saw that. That's not me, actually. Right, right, right. It's really funny. I wasn't on her Tumblr. I was on, it was weird because I was looking and my phone was kind of weird. I couldn't quite get to the site, but I saw like on the Google, it had a Tumblr, and people were asking you questions. Is that one of your Tumblrs? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I have. And one of the questions was, what was the biggest dick you ever sucked? Which I think is rude. Oh, so did I. So did I. But what's the answer? No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. You know what's weird about that question? As a man, as a man, and by the way, I've died and gone to heaven sitting there across from you three women, even though none of you would fuck me. But the thing is, that's a weird question. Like, what's the biggest dick you sucked? Because like, I'll be honest, I'm average size. I would actually be more curious, what's the smallest dick you ever sucked? That way I could feel better about myself. I don't want to know you sucked a 12-inch dick. Well, that's her thing. That sort of question isn't a real question. That's just trolling. You know, coming from you, it's genuine. I know you. You're actually curious. I'm actually curious, yeah. So you do answer questions on your Tumblr blog? Yes, I do. And more intelligent questions than that. That was when you were in my, like, a 13-year-old boy. People are curious about your lifestyle. So what's an odd question that people have that you can answer? Because you're on both sides of it. Yes, I am on both sides of it and being in a poly lifestyle and all of that, you know, I'll answer just about anything. Right. I'm sure a lot of people are curious how you get in the poly lifestyle. Yes, I definitely feel that. And being hot helps. Being a hot, beautiful woman does help. Well, I mean, I have a rotation sometimes. Right now I'm celibate for, like, the month. But it's not really that hard. It's just an agreement you enter into or a matter of respect. Exactly. I mean, it's not exclusive dating, pretty much. Yeah, it's communication and negotiation. That's all it is. But it's a little more, in your case, though. I mean, do they interact with each other? No, no, no. They all know each other. Okay, so it's not like, because we have Orpheus on and he's got a whole family there. They share a bed. Right. They share a bed. So you just sort of have a distance. I have multiple partners. Multiple partners. Guys now. Well, and your relationship with each one is different, too, because you're getting something different from each one. Absolutely. It's also a matter of respect. Like, if they didn't like one, it would create a problem in the dynamic. And we didn't ask Lainey Anastasia, your relationship status. What's going on there? I have multiple partners as well. Men and women? Or just women? Or just men? You seem very preoccupied with gender. Do you want to talk about that? No, no, no. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just trying to visualize things later on when I visualize you. I have a male, I have a cis male heterosexual partner, as well as a trans feminine non-binary, but I'm not sure what that means. I'm just trying to figure out what that means. I'm just trying to figure out what that means. I'm just trying to figure out what that means. That's what I was curious. And the non-gender specific, I'm still a little confused about it. Well, trans feminine, so the prefix trans indicates that you identify opposite from the gender that you were assigned at birth. Right. And feminine means that you don't necessarily identify as a woman. Right. But you identify near the more feminine end. Right. Of the spectrum. Because I might be. I don't know. Yeah. I've had these discussions. I've had these discussions. I mean, you know, I'm just flat out bi. I know what I am. But some people I know are actually gender neutral. I mean, they're very feminine, but they don't feel like they completely relate to that because they feel that a lot of their thoughts are just neutral. Yeah, I'm just not, I mean, you know, anyway, nobody gives a shit about my sex life or my gender identity. Well, I'd love to hear more. I would say this. You date interesting characters. You're not really about the exterior. Well, I'm about the exterior too. No, but that's what I'm saying. Like, they're so various and different, the people you've been with that I'm not going to drop because that's their business. But you have a unique taste. It's not. Well, I'll tell you, I honestly, and this is why, like, you know, the conversation is flowing tonight. I tend to relate more to women than men. I have more female friends than I have male friends. I don't, I'm not one of these, and I don't relate to the stereotypical macho football, you know, let's drink a beer guy. My father's completely like that. My father's Mr. He's very masculine. And I love my father, but that's not me. So I, and I relate more to women. I was telling somebody last night, I actually am attracted to, honestly, somewhat androgynous women. If you're, if you're really curious. And I love women with glasses because I figured their visions impaired. So I have a shot. But I have a friend who eventually decided they identified with a woman and they took, started taking hormone treatments, became a woman, but they're still, they date women. I know a lot of people like that. Yeah, yeah. So. Well, Pangea is absolutely a safe space for you to come and explore that kind of thing. A lot of, I've received, I've heard from a lot of non-binary identified people that they're very excited to have this space specifically because they have a non-binary gender identification. And while the, while the SM community is pretty, pretty open to trans people at large. Right. Cause like, that's how a lot of, that's how a lot of trans women figure out that they're trans is like. Right, really? Not a lot. The kinky ones. Right. That's how the kinky ones figure it out. Well, that's what's good about the community is people figure out what they like. What's very accepting has to be open. There's no judgment. So yeah, come explore your gender identity with us. That might be a possibility. I'll tell you what I want to explore now is I'd like to explore you guys playing a little bit. Oh yeah. We only got like, 15 minutes. There's a little space over here. Oh goodness. I know you guys brought some toys. Absolutely. Do you want to spank me? I would love to spank you. May I flog you? Absolutely. We're going to get some flogging here. Hold on. Let me get the camera over here. If you guys can go over there. Okay. So this is a safe space. And is it okay? We're going to, we're going to. It's a safe space. It's a safe space. We're going to, we're going to talk while, and comment. We'll joke around while you're in, in, because it was just weird. Cause when I was at, I, my friend was getting flogged at bar sinister and we were joking and laughing and the Dom there was like, don't, don't laugh and don't joke. This is really serious. I'm like, well, Mark, you have to go. You weren't laughing, right? Exactly. I have a, just a quick suggestion. Ms. Allison and I actually haven't played in a very long time. And so we need to do a really quick scene negotiation. Okay. Um, and if anybody's at home, is curious about how to get into the lifestyle, they'll have a template for how to do that. Okay. Let's see this. Okay. Okay. Um, so Ms. Allison, uh, do I have your, um, do I have your consent to use all of, all of those toys on you nominally? Yes. You can use anything that I brought tonight. Okay. Um, that seems pretty straightforward. Um, do you want to tell me anything special that you enjoy in particular? Um, do you prefer thuddy impact or, or slappy impact? Um, I definitely like a progression of impact, uh, slappy stingy more so. Um, so, but we've got a variety here, so. Okay. How do you feel about flogging? I love flogging. Excellent. Flogging is like a massage. Excellent. Um, do you have any medical issues I should know about? Nope. None at all. Okay. Um, red and yellow. Don't turn me upside down. Roger that. I don't think we have the setup for that. I don't think so. Red and yellow are safe words? Sounds good. Excellent. Do you need any, uh, what do you need as aftercare other than water? Oh, no, I think we've got the water and we'll just laugh it off. Excellent. I suggest using the accent. Alison, is it okay if she uses the accent? Yes, that would be awesome. Okay. She can definitely use the accent. That's hot. I like the Russian accent. I think the kids at home would appreciate a little accent. Yeah, you're, you're, you're, yeah, good idea, Nicole. And, uh, yeah, since there's no microphone, uh, you're gonna have to talk loud, uh, lady Anastasia, so. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .! She's removing her chain. Yes. Communatrix. Okay, if we're doing the Russian thing, um. Okay. Then can red be nyet and yellow be da? Okay. Okay. Well, uh, right. We're gonna comment and, uh, so. Um. Okay, so let me, uh. Let me see. Let me, uh, Nicole, can you move the mic over a little bit so we can catch them? Yeah, I was gonna say, do you want me to boom for you? Boom for me, please. So, Alison is, uh, she's, she's taking. . . We used to have used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used used Wow. I'm going to do a little boom and comment. A little boom and comment. Wow, that's beautiful. That is some nude underwear. Love that tattoo, too. Really? That's beautiful. Get on in here. Okay. This microphone's a little weak, though. That's okay. So just do your thing, and we'll try to... Okay. You can hear that. You can hear the slapping. Right. Not the thudding, the slapping. Would you arch your back for me a little bit more, please? Thank you. Very polite. A little bit of wind out here on the green today. I'm sure you're catching a nice breeze. We noticed she has an ankh on her back as a symbol. I noticed the ankh. I notice a lot of things right now. That's interesting. Slight reddening is appearing. Yeah, I noticed that, yeah. So the ankh is getting redder and redder. I'm kind of shaking. I don't mean to make you laugh. And then there's a... A little bit of texture change. Yeah, you got to rub it out. She's rubbing, yeah. A little fingernail action. A little tickling. This isn't what rubbing looks like. That isn't what rubbing looks like, Mark. You wouldn't want me to rub your cock like this. You'd be surprised. Well, you might. Right. Well, you wouldn't call it a rub. Right. All right. All right. I would call it the best night of my life. You really need to go explore with them. Apparently so. So, and... Oh, my goodness. Now that the ankh is nice and red. The ankh is nice and red. So now... I was thinking of sunset, yeah. So now it's time to work that hiney. Now that we have dusk, a moon is rising. Right. And Nicole. Nicole. Beautiful hiney, right? It's quite nice, yeah. Yeah, nice. I was actually thinking the whole time. This is the sort of thing I draw. People... I draw a lot of backs. I don't know if you noticed that in my art. So she's got a very nice back. Allison works out. She works out. She's done her squats. You do art, you should compete in my show. Okay. I can do that. Anyway, so you notice that she hasn't solicited for a comedian on the show. But anyway, so... Oh, I can totally draw that. Yeah. It's nice with the ankh. Oh, yeah. Okay, now with bare hands. I'm not really sure. Is this normal S&M? I just wanted to play the drums. This is just playing around. Yeah, this is... I don't know if there's one golden standard that all S&M is judged against. I got you. Yeah. You can't pin her down. Every time you try to pin her down, she's... Yeah. Gender, S&M... Well, her hands are definitely in a submissive position. Right. She's not. She's laughing, though. Look at that. Loves it. I laugh through Sina all the time. I saw you stick out your tongue. You're digging that. Look at that. Oh, wow. They need to be redder. They're just not getting redder. Yeah, they're... See, the thing about kink is that it's all about... It's all about fun, right? Oh, yes. Like how grown-ups play without our pants on. Right, right, right. So, yeah, it's silly as fuck. But you're working your way harder, right? You just... Yeah, you work your way up. Now it's getting a little pink. Yeah, there's a little pink that's there. There we go. Yes, turn the red. Red for the Soviet Union. Yes, yes. How do you say red in Russian? Oh, man, that's a lot. Love it. Do you have guys that, like, think they're Rambo and, like, totally, like... To invade her country? Right, right. Not yet. Right. But I feel like I used to wrestle back in the day. Oh, really? Now you found me. Back in high school. Oh, shit. And I'm just really... I'm just hoping for some guy that walks in that really wants me to, like, go face-to-face with him and be like, I must break you. Like Tiny Flick. Now you tell me. I wrestle girls on the show all the time. He really does. Next time. I can see there's so much space here for that. I wrestled Amazon. There was no space, but that doesn't stop it. Do you know Amazon came from American Horror Story? We wrestled last month, and it was very competitive. She's not even paying attention. She's fixated on that. She's working on her art. I know. It is getting there. I can see it melting up a little bit. First off... Well, it's because you're so toned, you know? It takes a little bit longer. First off, that tone ass is a work of art. Oh. Why? Just in itself. That should be in your show. She has beautiful legs, too. I noticed that. You're not telling me anything I can't see. She's like a fawn. Right. That's a thoroughbred right there. That's hot. Who's our little fawn? Are you looking at the dog? I'm in my street. All right. This is fantastic. Please comment away, Nicole. There's only so much I can comment. No, no. This is... I'm just... Yeah, this is great. Oh, wait a second. Here we go. It's a little patty cake action. Very nice. Did you used to be a drummer? Yeah. Uh-oh. What happened? Something about the nails. Oh. Oh, wow. Do you like being clawed, Allison? Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. So now we've got a... Plastic. Plastic... Not plastic. Is it plastic? We're going back to Catholic school. Plastic ruler. Someone has been very naughty. Wow. Nicole's doing her Russian accent, too. Okay. So see, yeah. Now we got the patty cake. Now we got the ruler. Russia has lots of Jews and lots of Catholics. Right. I want to use this, but I can't stop smacking his beautiful ass. I was like, I think you're a little into it. You love to touch it, don't you? It's obvious. It is. I just want to keep touching it. You can smack it and then touch it. I don't know. You got to rub it out at some point, so... It's getting pretty red. It is. It's a little... I'm not happy about it myself. I guess... I know. You're like, this is... Oh! This is child's play. Okay. So now with the glass... The glass ruler. There's a little bit of punishment. Never hit anyone with anything glass. Don't do that. It's a plastic ruler. Very plastic. Plastic ruler. Ow. Yes. Don't smack with a beer bottle. Don't smack with a beer bottle, folks. That's... We have that from the festival. That's just being drunk. Yeah. That's just... That's just crazy. Beer bottle. Right. That's white trash. Yeah. That's trailer park action. That's... We don't want that. This is... This is... You saw that meme I posted. Fifty Shades of Grey is only hot because he's a billionaire. If it was at a trailer park, it would be a Criminal Minds episode. Yeah. You're right. You're right. It's only hot if you use a plastic ruler. Use a beer bottle. It's a Criminal Minds episode. Exactly. Exactly. Well, I'll tell you what. Plastic ruler is doing a job there. Let's... Oh, wait a second. What was it? You just had to... She just clenched? Yeah. She's in... Yeah. Look at that. Oh. A little scraping up and down the legs. Those legs are amazing. She's constantly changing the sensations. I don't notice if you... I don't know if you noticed, Mark, but that's what she's doing. Please enlighten me, Nicole. I want to hear. This is what I don't know about. It isn't my thing, but I understand it. I like the psychology of it. Please. Please. Please enlighten me. I'm just not really into pain. Right. But I get it. I get the... I know. I get why people are into it and how it works. So... Lots of nerves. Would you say you're a dom or a sub, Nicole? I would say I'm pretty soft core when it comes to that stuff. You can pin me down, but I'm not really going to want to... Like one time a person bit me. I just... I don't like being bit. Where? Where did they bite you? Well, one person bit there and that was not good. But one person bit there and that's okay. So I guess it just depends. So you pointed a nipple. That's not good. That hurts. And then the inner thigh, though, there's a lot of arteries down there. Yeah. And the inner thigh's good. That was okay. Right. I didn't know that, though. And I was like... I hesitated, too, because I really hate being bit. But I'm like, all right, but only there. That was like my thought. Okay. So we... I hate to do this because this... I could do this all day. Is it time? We're going to have to wrap it up at some point, but you can do one last thing. Can you give me one good one? All right. One... Okay. One good one. One good one. One good one. May I leave handprints on this? Yes. And thanks to you, a bunch of people are going to be biting that. Oh, I love it. Oh, yeah. Come on. Finish her. Oh, wait, wait. Finish her. I see the handprints. I see the handprints. Yes, you do. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's nice. You can see your own handprints. Wow. You're pretty flexible. You can... Look at her. She's admiring it. She's so proud. Well, no. Allison's admiring her own ass. Look at that. She's admiring her own ass. That's nice. Pretty good. That's nice. That's a work of art. Yeah. That is. That's really clear delineation of her hand. Aw. Good job. You were complimented. So, Allison, what is your... Do you have a website? Yeah. MissAllisonLee.com. MissAllisonLee.com. You can link to your Facebook, your Instagram, or I don't know if you have an Instagram, but Twitter and all that and Communatrix. Do you have a website? Look at that little summoning circle. She's going to summon hell to her vagina. Right. Good warning. Communatrix isn't live yet, but ClubPangia.com. ClubPangia.com. ClubPangia.com. ClubPangia.com. ClubPangia.com. ClubPangia.com. ClubPangia.com. ClubPangia.com. And you're Communatrix on Twitter. I am. So, go to Sanctuary, Google Sanctuary, because you both run a Sanctuary website. Yes. Sanctuary LAX and go to Smut, March 28th. A lot of arts. Nicole probably will be there apparently. I don't know. March 28th? We'll see. I'll look on my calendar. March 28th. March 28th. Yeah. Yeah. This is... We're just getting to know each other. March 28th. Smut. Arts. Play. Performance. It's going to be great. And then April 4th, you're going to be doing... Pangia. April 4th. Clitorature. Clitorature. I forgot. Clitorature. And go to Nicole6.com for everything Nicole 6. Yes. And something exciting. We'll be happy on the strip in June soon that I'll be talking about. I can't wait to hear it. Everybody, we're out of time. Everybody have a wonderfully creepy week. You guys are great. Thanks a lot. Thank you for having us. Good night. Good night.