Psychic Chris Cahill interview and live reading

Outro Music Y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way along. Ow! The boom-sticky-dee, boom-sticky-dee, boom-sticky-dee sticker. The boogie flipper. The windshield wiper for your ear master. The cap and crunch that will steer you from disaster. You got too many cracks on your wall. You need plaster. Get with the program. You drinking 30-year-old root bear shaster. You think I'm lying? Stop trying. Pay attention. And you could go far if you stay tuned to the end. The P and the motherfucking R. Yeah! That's right, y'all. Welcome again to actually the third episode of Nestorius Public Radio. We're in January. What's today? The 23rd. That's right. Hell yeah, boy. Today's show is going to be awesome. You know, this is my first show where I interview somebody in the studio. I haven't done that yet in 2014. I've done it a couple of times before. But the idea will be to interview someone who has a regular job or some sort of a career or something that none of you motherfuckers are doing because you're at home in your underwear. You haven't purchased milk in about 20 years and you ain't paying your phone bill. So just people who, you know, you might be interested one day when you get your shit together to say, man, maybe I could do that sometime. So today, my guest is a psychic. Not unlike any of the psychics that, I mean, not like any of the psychics that you may have thought about or were brought up knowing about, but she's a legitimate psychic and she's also a host on one of the shows here on skidrollstudios.com, Chris Cahill. Why, hello. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me. Thank you. It's so nice to be here. Thank you for having, thank you for being my guest on this show. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me on the show. It's awesome. You're welcome. I've always wanted to have you on the show. And, and, and, and two, and two Chris's, oh, right, is none other than the other brother with the somewhat red hair, Rich Corbin. Yeah. What's left of it. What's up everybody? What's going on? It's more, it's more flesh tone hair now these days. Your hair ain't red, man, in comparison to Chris. Chris's hair is fucking red. Hers is red. Mine was red like that when I was younger. Chris's hair is fire, man. Your shit is like, now yours is looking brown next to that. But, uh, yeah, no. So I wanted to, um, well, you know what? I have a, uh, I wanted to play this clip. I know most people, when they think of a psychic, and I know I showed you this, um, when, uh, when we were outside, um, most people think of Ms. Cleo or, uh, Dionne Warwick and her psychic networks. It's this wacky shit. We all have our own interpretations, our own versions of it. So, you know, when, when, when I first came to skid row studios.com, I remember specifically your show was one of the shows that I walked in on. You were saying something, and you may not remember this, but you were saying something about maybe talking to somebody on the air. Cause Chris has, uh, live callers come in, call in and you, and you give them readings and stuff like that. But you may have been talking to somebody, or maybe you were just talking to your general audience and you were saying something about, and then when a guy walks in and I just happened to be walking in and I looked at you and I went, me? Like me? Like me? I don't know if you remember this. This is like, I don't know, like, like this was in, uh, maybe February or March. Cause my show is, uh, I started in, uh, in, uh, in, uh, in, uh, in, uh, in, uh, in, uh, in, in April, like around April, uh, 15th, around that, around tax time last year. But anyway, so, you know, when I didn't know anything about you and I didn't know what psychic meant, you know what I mean? But we'll get into that in a second. Let me just play this. Let me just play this, uh, Ms. Cleo, uh, commercial that, um, um, we all know, y'all, y'all know, call me now. Call me now. You want the reading? You call 1-800-311-1412. I love it. Call me now, ya bomba clod. I loved her headgear on that. She had headgear. First of all. Oh, she had the best hat. First of all, the bitch wasn't even Jamaican. She lived in Brooklyn. She was just a fucking African American woman with an accent. She's like, Cleo can't save your life. Anyway, here we go. I did. Find out what I see for you. Call me now for a free tarot reading. Call 1-800-311-1412. What's all this arguing going on that I see by the five of wands? I'm looking at five people. Correct. Oh my goodness. My mother, my two uncles, my cousin, and myself. He will get frustrated and tired with this, honey. He told me that. Well, because you have sex with your eyes closed. You're scared to death, mama. Oh, man. You have hit the nail on the head perfectly. What question would you ask me in your free tarot reading? Just Cleo, you are the best. Call 1-800-311-1412. Don't call that number because that number is fucking defunct. Anyway, so then Mad TV did a, a skit on, on Ms. Cleo where one of the characters, Leona Campbell, calls Ms. Cleo. And she was hilarious. Hello, is this Cleo? Yes, baby, it is. Oh, honey, you're the one that can see into the future. Yes, darling, you got the right Cleo. Oh, honey, can I ask you a question? What? Was she working on September the 10th? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Well... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... Ye... You didn't see anything strange gonna happen on that next day? Um, uh, no. Nothing? No singles, nothing you could go on TV and maybe warn people about? What, was you working September of the 9th? And maybe you got a message from the spirits saying something like, Hey Cleo, get your American flags while they still cheat. Do you remember them saying anything like that? No, darling, no, no. That's a big thing for them to miss, isn't it? Well, honey, tell, what about on September the 8th? Do you remember getting any psychic messages like, Three more days till Gary Conard ain't in the headlines? Uh, Carl, you there, listen. Listen to me, Conard. Uh-huh. Okay, um, now the psychic world and the spiritual world can be very, very tricky, okay? Ooh. And, and I didn't think to ask about that kind of information, you see. Ah, that'd be the first thing I'd ask every day, you know, just in case. I'd say, spirits, any historical tragedies coming up soon? That's hilarious, I mean. Oh, yeah. That's fucking hilarious. So, you know, I had to, I had to, you know, I remember Miss Cleo, you know, this is the 90s. And I take it everyone remembers Miss Cleo, right? Oh, yeah. Especially people in your, in your, uh, uh, area. I kind of ignored Miss Cleo, to be honest. Of course you did. Of course you did. I was never attracted to her, but. Yeah, of course you did. So anyway, so why don't we just start with you? You're from Chicago. I am originally born and raised in Chicago. Lived there most of my life. Most of your life. When did you come out to California? Seven years ago. Okay. And before that, where were you? In Chicago. Oh, okay. So you, most of your life. Okay. Pretty much all your life. Yeah. Well, until I moved out here. Until you moved out here. Now I'm from here. Now you're from here. Of course. Cause, cause, cause your soul belonged here. It really did. Yeah. And it's cold in Chicago right now. Chicago's beautiful. It is beautiful. To visit. Oh, it's great. I love Chicago. To visit. Like New York. To visit. I'm going, I'm going there again in April. Family, friends. I love Chicago. How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? How's Chicago's place in the city? snowy there. It does. And if you haven't frozen to death before you get to that snow pile, the snow pile could keep you warm. Right, right. It might save your life. You're right. You're right. You're right. You know, the thing, I am from the East Coast like you are. So you, you, you, you acclimate to it. You can acclimate to it fairly easy. You know, I'm not saying you want to live there, but for instance, 20 degrees difference, 20 degrees to 30 degrees, right? That's a 10 degree difference. California out here. I say this to a lot of people that the difference is that there's a 30 or 40 degree degree difference in temperature out here in the desert. So it could be 80 and then it's 40 something. And you're like, damn, it's cold. 40 something isn't cold, but relatively speaking, relatively speaking. Right. And we have a joke in Chicago when it gets to be 50, when it gets all the way up to 50 in the winter, people put on their t-shirts and shorts when it gets down to 50 here. Everyone's like, it's freezing cold. No, that's exactly right. I was going to say in New York, New York, 45, 45. 45 degrees. I was there, uh, December 21st. It was, it was 20 something. And then it went up to like 40 something, 45 degrees felt like summer. I swear to God. Well, walking was just, it was beautiful. Just beautiful. 45 degree here. Forget it. Yeah. Rich comes out in his ski parka, fucking some of those, like, uh, what do you call those hand warmers that you have to like crush to generate heat? Oh yeah. Anyway. So Chicago, you're an artist. You're an artist. You're a visual artist. You're a painter. I graduated from the school of the art Institute of Chicago in the early eighties. Damn. And I've been an artist my whole life. Right. Yeah. So, so what, what have you painted? Cause I didn't look at any of your work. Um, well, let's see. Like what types of paintings, you know, I'm a painter also abstract. I'm, I'm a, I love color. I love intense color. And what I became when I moved out here was an abstract painter, which I, for some reason didn't have as much permission to do in Chicago. Like I hadn't given myself the permission. I'm moving out here. You never helped me create a whole new picture. And I made a lot of paintings since I moved here and I'm not creating paintings now cause I'm doing this. Sure, sure, sure, sure. It's very difficult. I will go back and do it again because I love painting. Yes. I haven't painted in a couple of years, but so, so when you, when you say abstract, you basically have an image that you want to paint, whether it's an image that you've taken from a photograph or an image that you have in your head. And then you just like use different colors to like, you know, are your, are your abstracts, are your abstracts, are your abstracts, abstractions, just blotches of colors, lines of colors, other actual images used to create stuff? No, I wasn't using imagery. And when I first started painting, I used more collage painting techniques and more imagery. And I had done photography for a little while too, or just photo techniques. But my last stuff was all intense, just color, intense energy lines, you know, and I loved it. It had so much energy. I mean, I was painting energy. That's how I looked at it. I get it. Yeah. I get it. I get it. I don't know if you have anything and people would feel it and I would get a lot of response to the work. I get it. I get it. I mean, there's nothing like, well, first of all, painting is such a, I don't know if I could use the word sacred, but it's, it's such a, it's such a spiritual thing. Let's call it that. It's a spiritual thing. And, and it's you against yourself, basically, right? Yes. Stand-up comedy is the same way, by the way. So it's you against yourself. Although most people think, oh, the audience has to be like, oh, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. The audience has to laugh. Man, you just have to be you. You have to connect to the audience. And then once you do that, it's, you know, it is what it is. And, and, and you, and it's a flow of energy. We're talking about energy earlier. It's a flow of energy, complete flow of energy. Timing is energy, right? Yeah. You just have to have your space when you do that. You have to, you have to know your space, right? So, so, and a lot of comedians are like, oh, the audience didn't laugh or whatever. Sometimes the joke may not work and I'll get back to the painting. But sometimes the joke may not work, but how you react to the joke not working could be funnier than the joke when it, when it wouldn't work. It just can be. And again, it's with, you're with the energy, you're flowing with the energy. The painting, when I painted and I said, it's, it's, it's you against yourself. When I painted, you know, you have to love the process as an artist. You have to love the process, right? You have to be able to say, don't judge this yet. Yeah. Because it's not finished, right? Exactly. But as an artist, you're judging it. The whole time. The whole time. Constantly. The whole time. It's a fight going on in your head and you're going, shut up, shut up, shut up. The whole time. Just paint the freaking thing. Just, just, just, just, just, just move, just move forward. Just move forward. Just make it happen. Resistance. Just make it happen. It's, it's, so, so it's, and it's, and it's definitely energy. I mean, I don't know if you've seen any of my, my paintings, but most. I want to. Yeah. Most people will look at my paintings and go, they're full of energy. They'll say they'll, they're full of energy. Yeah. I'll show you some afterwards. Okay. Actually, Rich, you have your computer. Go on to Nestorius.com, I think. There's a couple of paintings there. But, but so you're, so you're an artist. So were you successful as an artist, as a painter? I worked for myself for a lot of years being a, being a painter and also as a, before then I was a costume and fashion designer, but I basically supported myself. So when you say. I didn't make a lot of money, but I did. You sold paintings. I sold paintings all the time. Like I was, I didn't, I was always trying to look for a gallery and I, at some point in my career, I said, I'm tired of looking for someone else to approve of what I'm doing. And it was actually even before the internet became a bigger thing. Like, I mean, I graduated in 82 and I really was working a lot in the nineties. Right. You know, before I moved out here and I just started learning how to promote myself. I did shows. Out of here. Well, in Chicago too. I had lots of shows in Chicago. Mm-hmm. I had lots of clients, lots of people who bought my work. So you did. People who still write to me years later and say, I have this painting and they'll send me a photo and it's from like 10, 15 years ago. But that's awesome. I love that. You want that. You want that. Oh my God, it feels good. Because, because here's the other, here's the other aspect of, of being an artist and a painter, which is, okay, so you've put all your heart and soul into something. Yeah. Right. At the end of the day, what's the currency? What is that thing worth? Right. Right. What? A thousand, 1500, 2000, whatever. You get to $2,000, you'll never see those $2,000 again. They're gone. Right. Put them in the bank. They spent a painting. I, I, the biggest, the biggest problem or, or, or obstacle I've always had with paintings is that I put so much of myself into it. Right. That I don't just want to give it away. Right. But you know, when I say give it away, somebody really has to love it. Yes. Is where I'm getting at. You have to really, it has to move you. So a lot of times, I mean, I've sold, I don't want to say hundreds, but I've sold a few paintings and I've always asked, why do you like the paintings? Why do you like the painting? That's what I like to ask. Like, why do you like the painting? I mean, like w w why? And, and I, and you know, if it's good enough for me that I'm cool with it. You know what I mean? Exactly. I asked that of the very first person who bought a painting from me. I was so surprised this guy bought the painting. It was a different style I did. And it was a painting called career choices for Catholic girls. And you can be a title, you could be a bride or a nun. And there was this really subtle pattern background of sperm swimming around on gold with crucifixes. I was raised Catholic obviously. That's okay. And I didn't, I was this guy who bought it. I was like, he was the last person I was thinking would buy it. And I said, why did you like, I was very respectful. I liked him. And he said, well, because it reminded me of growing up and in being in Catholic school and my, the nuns were mean and my mom was nice. Like that was the memory. I thought I have got to stop judging people. Which is, which is part of what we're going to, which is part of being a good psychic, a clairvoyant. Mm-hmm . Someone who doesn't judge. Mm-hmm . Someone who doesn't judge. Mm-hmm . Someone who doesn't judge. Mm-hmm . Someone who doesn't judge. Mm-hmm . Someone who doesn't judge. Mm-hmm . Someone who doesn't judge anybody, right? Yes. So, but we'll get into that a little bit, but that's not judging. That's one of the biggest, we talk, I just talked about judging yourself as an artist, judging the work when, without it being finished. Right? Then once it's finished, you're judging it. Yeah. Right? It's not that good. It's, it's horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. That, even that is a judgment, right? Exactly. But I'll give you an example. So I did, and it's perception. So I did this recording of four or five minutes of standup for Stars Network. It came out in December, right? December 25th. Mm-hmm . We watched it. The first thing, my, my, my stomach cringed and I was like, ah, that was horrible. That was horrible. That's my judgment on it. Right. Would I, and then I watched it again, maybe like two weeks later, just sat down, objectively watched it. And I said, huh, that was an interesting set. You know what I mean? Because I've never done those jokes in that, and I had, and I had done this in May and they aired it in December. But the day after that, I was like, oh, I'm going to watch this again. And I was, I watched the recording. It's like the judgment, which is, which is, which is very, it's an obstacle. It's an, it's an obstacle for spiritual growth, right? It is. But we all, I mean, here's the thing. You, you're going to hit it. You're going to be in judgment. And one of the things I learned in my clairvoyant training, I'll never forget a teacher who said this, you know, I'm in judgment and I'm just not in judgment over the . And he was making a joke. I'm in judgment, but I'm just not in judgment over that. I'm just not gonna judge the fact that I'm in judgment because that would be the thing we would do is I have to be like, oh my God, I have to not judge anything. anything I know better. Right. And then you go into judgment over that. Sure, sure, sure. I just did. So you got to have some amusement. Right. And just go, I'm not going to. Right. Awareness. Go with it. You got to have awareness. Yes. Awareness. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. So the reason I brought about the painting is because that was one of the things that transformed your life from being a painter into a psychic, right? Yes. So someone bought a painting and the woman invited you to her institute and she was, it was the, what, the psychic? It was a school that used to exist in Chicago called Midwest Psychic Institute. That's actually where I studied. Right. But then when I became a teacher at this school and I was, I was really, I just loved it after studying, going through the training, I realized I want to teach this. Mm-hmm. I just was so fascinated by the whole, like how, how much it had helped me change and heal myself and grow. And I, in a very short time, and I liked the energy because there, of the place, because it wasn't about having to follow a certain path or be a certain way. This is what we're doing. You're learning how to be a clairvoyant and heal yourself. So when I started teaching the school, he ended that school and started a new school called Envision. That's what exists now in Chicago. So that other school was turned into Envision. It was basically destroyed, like ended. Okay. Ended. All the old agreements and then a brand new school. Like he just created a whole new school. In the same location? In the same location. So what happened with all the old energy that was in there? Moved out. Yeah. They did a clearing. Well, basically once you end the old agreements, spiritually speaking. You're ending. Everything's an agreement. It's a way of saying, okay, we're creating a new picture. Right. Everything is seen as a picture. We're creating a new picture. You have a picture for your show. Right. I'm developing my picture for the show. A picture for your life. It's just. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You may not have the full picture yet, but you're always creating one. Right. And even when people don't think they have one, they have an unconscious picture. Yes. Yes. But yes, you're right. But then there's always that thing. Right. That, that, that is preventing you from crossing over. Right. To that picture. Well, you just keep working it. So there's, but there's a picture. Right. And then there's like this, this little bit of sea. Right. Like two or three inches in front of your face. Right. And then, and then you start walking towards it and then the damn thing expands. Yeah. And then it becomes like a whole ocean. And you're like, you know what, man? Fuck that. I'm not, I'm not walking that far. And then you turn back and then, you know, that's, that's, that's the story of, of Hawaii. Well, that's resistance. Yes. You run into the resistance and you let it take you over. Right. Which we all, human beings. We do that. I mean, honestly, getting through the resistance is how you kind of, you create. Because it's scary. It's scary to create a big new picture and own it. Right. My picture is a Polaroid picture that hasn't developed fully. Yeah. Excellent. It like, the, the, the, the stuff just didn't, you know, it didn't come out. It didn't get pressed out. The chemicals, the chemicals didn't break. The chemicals didn't get pressed out into it. But you can create a new picture any time. Oh, yeah. You can throw that shit out and get another one. Yeah. Exactly. They don't make those anymore. Hey. No, they don't. I used to play with those. They were great. Let me do, let me do a little station identification. You're listening to the Storious Public Radio Show live. This is Thursday. Just in case you are waking out of a blackout and alcoholic stupor. It's Thursday. It's about 9.30 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. That means it's about midnight, 12.30 a.m. in the East Coast for you, for you folks. And you guys in between do the math. We're live. So you can call 1-800-893-9562. We are live. We are live. We have the beautiful Chris Cahill who happens to be a psychic. We probably will take a call or two if you guys are around. Towards the end of the show, I'd like to do a reading or two. And yeah. So you're listening to us live. So anyway, back to the transformation. So you took a psychic meditation class. That was one of your first classes that you took at the school? It's basically a class that taught me how to meditate in a grounded way. Explain that. It's grounding. It's like the technique I teach more than almost anything. But grounding is a way to make your body safe. To connect yourself. Safe. When you ground, you can actually... We all ground to something. People ground to relationships, to the economy. I mean, how safe are you when the economy goes to hell? Identity. If you're grounded into it. Or some identity or things that fall apart all the time. Your girlfriend. When you have your... Exactly. Your car. When you have your very own grounding. And the technique is basically grounding, creating a connection. From your body to the earth. It's remembering you're also that you have a body. And that you belong on the earth. And the thing is, most of us do. We go into our minds and we forget about our bodies. Yes. Our bodies become less important. And then they feel lonely and they get pissed off. And they go into stores and start stealing shit. Well, it's hard to create. And then you get arrested. Yeah. And you're like, I wasn't doing that. I was just thinking about how fucked up my bank account is. Yeah. And I'm in handcuffs now. Well, that's an extreme example. But it's been... It's been... It's been... It's been known to happen. So grounding... And that's what the psychic meditation class taught me was how to work with my body, not against it. And that made it safe for me to turn on my clairvoyance, which was already there. Okay. Okay. So... Okay. Have you ever meditated, Rich? Yes. Okay. You have. Okay. And any kind of fancy way or basic way? Or was it like a lot of incense and music? And I'm just asking. No, no. No. I did this a lot as a kid, actually. I would just... I would... I would find myself just sitting down, you know, like in the corner of a room in my house or, you know, I just... It's just weird. I'd just sit and I would think and then I'd stop thinking and I would just kind of sit and exist. I think that's called escaping in fantasy land. No, that's cool. No, I'm kidding. You were getting your space. Oh, that's where it started off. No, really. That's where it started. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No, you're right. You're absolutely right. It's like, oh, what would I like to do today? And then I just sit and I just stare off. Wonder Twin powers activate. And then I find myself waking up, you know, like, whoa, you know, 10, 15 minutes later, like, you know, just blank out. And, you know, I found... I liked doing it. And after a while, I would go and do that where I just felt like I needed to calm down or, you know, I mean, nobody knew what ADD was back in, you know, in the day or whatever. You know, it's just like sometimes I needed to just chill because... But how do you feel? I'm all over the place. I felt great. You know, I... You did a great thing. I don't do it as often. You know, I don't think people do that. But I was just really listening to... I guess just listening to my body, I guess, or whatever, or the situation. It's like I would get there. I was like, okay, what am I going to do? What do I want to do? Do I want to go outside? Do I want to... And then you just kind of blank out. And, you know, 10, 15 minutes later, you're like, oh, geez, wow. You know what you did? You went out and then you came back. Yeah. You went out and you got rid of the energy and then you came back. You got rid of the problem. So, yeah. So, yeah, I have meditated, but it wasn't like a conscious thing. But there would be times when I would just like, I would just find a place. But you haven't consciously meditated. You haven't consciously said, I'm getting up every day at 6 in the morning and I'm just going to... Before I make my coffee, I'm just going to breathe in and just try to get rid of the thoughts in my head and just be centered. You've never done that before. I'm just... Yes or no? No. Okay. Hell, I don't do that. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. You know what? I take naps. This is not a quiz. This is not a quiz. No, no, no. I'm thinking about this. Don't worry. You're not locking me up. I'm just, I'm trying to think about this because it's a series. You would know if you did that. No, no, no. Well, I would know if I did that, but I would consider that calling it a nap. That's fine. Because I've known people like, I'm just going to meditate for a little while and this and that. And I'm like, you mean take a nap? No, it's meditation. I'm not talking about that. You're taking a nap. I'm not talking about that. They think they're meditating. The reason I asked, I was asking you if you meditated before is because I have and I've meditated in different phases and different times in my life, right? So in the early nineties, there's a guru called Sri Chinmoy. And so I just got into meditation through a group of his classes. And it was one of those things where I'd get up at six in the morning, right? I had to be at work at 730. So if I was going to meditate first thing in the morning, you'd have to be, you know, and I made it a discipline. Right. And what I found out was that my life was just that discipline centered my whole life. Just centered my whole life, which I think what you're talking about is grounding. Yeah. Yeah. Grounding. And I practice grounded meditation, which is a very specific kind of meditation where I will, and I will sit in a chair, you know, my, my preference is first thing in the morning, but it's not six. Right. And I'll sit there, I will close my eyes and I'm sitting, you know, connecting myself to the earth, but also letting go. I'm releasing. I'm consciously letting go. Letting go of yesterday. Letting go of yesterday. Letting go of whatever's been going around in my head. Just dropping it. Not judging it. Not fixing it. So what does that mean? It's not fixing or solving. It's releasing. So you're just sitting there. You're, you're, you're, you're acknowledging the thoughts and the feelings and all that stuff. And you're just like. I'm not trying to shut them up. I'm saying there they are. They're going to come back again and again. That's okay. I don't care. I'm letting go of whatever is in my way. And, but, but it's also more than that. I practice a whole set of techniques that I learned in that original class. One of them is called running energy, which is a way to really run new things. Neutral energies through you and clean out what's stuck. We, our bodies get stuck with energy. We think we're carrying it in our egos and our minds and our, we're not. Our bodies handle it. It goes in our shoulders. It goes in our backs. It goes in our bellies. You know. Energy ex-lax. It's, well, it's, you know what? One of my teachers used to call it Drano. She's like, it's like Drano. It's like cleaning out all, where everything is stuck. And it has an amazing effect over time. So, so walk me through that technique. That, that first technique that you just talked. About the grounding, not the grounding one, but you said running energy, running energy, running energy. Okay. Just imagine. Okay. Do you know about your energy system? You have channels in your body. You have chakras chakra, which are energy center. I don't know the specifics, but yes. Okay. So when you learn how to run energy, you learn how to basically work with neutral earthy energy at a lower body level. So that's through your leg channels and you work with a higher, more spiritual vibration through your upper channels. It's basically a way of bringing body and spirit together. It's psychic meditation because it's working with all of your energy centers. They contain your information. And so you start to actually open things up. Even if people don't believe this or they have no idea what the heck it's doing, or they don't know about their energy system. When they start to learn to run energy, some pretty interesting things happen. And I've heard a lot of feedback over the years from this, because I've been teaching this class for about 14 years now. Right. And it's pretty brilliant. And you teach this class here in LA? I do teach it here. Privately or in a school? Now I do it more privately. I used to have classes all over the place and I changed the way I do everything. So now I do stuff a lot through my online sites. I have recorded meditations. Mostly I give readings and I work with a lot of my clients. What's your site? My site, chriscahill.com. And I also have another one called psychiceveryday.com. Okay. So if I wanted to take one of your classes on grounded meditation, I could do that through your website? Yeah. You can go to my website. You can read about it. I write about the techniques. Awesome. Interesting. Okay. So you took that psychic meditation class, which probably was not just one specific technique. It was probably a few techniques. There were a number of techniques. Right. Neutrality, non-judgment, it was a big one. I remember reading a book called Cultivating Compassion. And I forgot the guy's name, but I picked it up and it was very interesting. And he said that one of the best meditations you could do is to relieve or to cultivate compassion towards people. And he said, you want to start with people that you don't have any emotional attachment to first, people that you don't know, and then work your way towards the people who you have a lot of resentment and energy, aggression and whatever towards. So you don't want to start with your mom, who you've been resentful for since you were three. But he was saying something and it was as simple as this. He said, as I want to be loved, so does he want to be loved. That's simple. He said that we're all spiritual beings at the fundamental level. We just want to be loved. Yeah. That's it. Pretty much. Not very complicated. Love is a pretty powerful energy. It is. It is. And it's really hard when we're looking through the pain and the anger and the hurt and feeling wrong and wronged. So the point of all of this, in my view, is to grow spiritually. What's interesting about what you just said there is that feeling wronged and you talked about as an artist, painting and-. Painting and getting a gallery and giving your power away or not being able to just, you know, stand up comedy is like, that's why I got into painting because you have to get permission from somebody to create. I can't just do stand up comedy by myself in my living room. I have to go through the channels and get an audience and all that other stuff. Whereas painting, I don't have to do that. I just get a canvas, paint and have the place and just do it. But artists used to have to have permission to be in galleries. Right. Okay. And the other thing I would say for you as a stand up comic, you can put a camera on yourself and you can have a YouTube channel and you can show people what you do and build an audience that way too. Right. Right. Well, that's the thing-. It's different performing live. I agree. You can crash an open mic at some shitty coffee shop somewhere. Yeah. Well, yeah. So we have a caller. Oh, cool. Yes. Hello. Hello, caller. Hey, is this Burger's Podcast? Excuse me? Is this the I Am Burger Podcast? No, it's the I Am Burger Podcast. Okay. It's not. It's the I Am Burger Podcast starts in about 20, 25 minutes or so. Oh, I'm sorry, you guys. That's okay. Thank you. All right. Yeah, totally. Okay. Bye. So what was I going to say? Wow. They really want to get on that show. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. They're in line. I got to call now because the lines are going to be like just crazy. No, no, no, no. It's all right. I mean, shit. I mean, she's early. Yeah. She's early. I mean, the people that call the shows that are on this channel, they'll call like three hours later like, oh, no, that show is over. I mean, you got to give it to her. You know what I mean? I got to give her a big up. I should have asked if she wanted a reading, but I was going off into something and it had something to do with what we were talking about. We were talking about spiritual growth and people wanting to be loved. Oh, permission. Yes, permission. So permission, which is the interesting thing about love and compassion is that at the first level, and compassion is that at the fundamental level, you want to be acknowledged. Yeah. So basically you want- Validated. Validated. So you want your mother to acknowledge that she wronged you or you want your neighbor. And this is the thing about life. Many times people are not capable of acknowledging. So then you walk around, which is what you're talking about. You walk around with this energy, with this blockage, right? Right. The individual who has this blockage has the power to release that. Because you can acknowledge. You're the only one who can. The only person who can heal you is yourself. And I never tell people I can heal them. That's not my job. What I will do is help facilitate healing. Guide them as to how they can do it. Or help make it safer for them to decide if they want to. But I'm not going to tell someone they have to do something. Everyone's got their own way of growing. Yeah, that's why most guys drink. Why? To forget. Right. I think women do it for that reason too. Well, yeah. Or to, you know. That's why guys drink beer so regularly. I mean, women more and more, you know. But they used to. Women, a lot of times, you know, for the longest time, they had to like carry that stuff around, you know, with them. They weren't allowed to be so vocal. And, you know, it was always the guys pushing his weight around and being aggressive. And this is what I, you know, and all that stuff. But now it's a little bit more, you know. Well, it was a male picture. You've come a long way, baby, you know. Yeah. I think women stepping up and owning their space is really also giving men more permission to do it because men have really traditionally been squashed emotionally. And they're not. They're very emotional beings. They are. That's why they drink. Men are brilliant. So they just sit, they drink, they focus on the game. Yeah, but men have not. You know, and that's how they get it out. That's how they cleanse their shit. That's how they forget about it. And after a while, it gets pushed down, pushed down until they're like 45, 50 years old. And then, you know, it all like builds up into this big onion. And then they start trying to peel the onions away, you know, the layers of the onion away. And then they realize, oh, I've been an asshole all my life. But men are not conditioned to be emotional. Men are. We are. You're conditioned to not be. You're told from the time you're little that that's not what a man does. What are you crying? What are you crying for? Yeah. Stop crying or I'm going to hit you in the head. I mean, this is what you get as a boy from the moment, from the very early moment. That's a lot of emotion. When you get in touch with your sensitivity as a man, as a young boy, the first thing you will get from your father is stop fucking crying. You want me to hit you in the head? And then your mother, if you're a Puerto Rican mom, she'll be like, why are you crying? Come here. You want to cry? I'm going to hit you. So you build on that. Then you go into the schoolyard. You're thinking your boy Rocco is going to be more sensitive and you're going to be able to cry to him. You're going to cry. He's going to punch you in the head. The rest of the other guys are going to punch you in the head. What are you, gay? Yeah. What are you, a fucking homo? And then you got to toughen up. And then you got to drink a beer and watch the game to make sure everybody knows you're not gay. Yeah. It's crazy. I'm watching football and drinking a beer. I'm not gay. I was just laughing. I'm sitting here crying for you. This is what I'm saying. So, okay. So you, I read an interview of yours and you said that from, the time that you were a little girl, you'd walk into a room and you can feel people's energies and you can feel that some people needed to be healed or helped. I forgot the wording of it, but that you wanted to help them. Yeah. How did that? I wanted to heal them all. How was that? How did you come upon that awareness? It wasn't a happy feeling. Believe me. It was a very uncomfortable feeling, but it was just something that I felt and that I felt I was responsible for. That was another thing. I was the first born of a big, big family. I was always responsible. Right. But as a little kid, I was, I just felt responsible. Like I wanted to make it better. It was also like, you know, a control freak in training from a very young age. But I remember having, like knowing in grammar school, some of the kids who were really, you know, just they weren't happy or they were mean or, and I wanted to fix them. I didn't try. Thank God I didn't do that. But I felt it and I took that stuff on. Like I just knew that I was taking it on. At least I didn't know then. But now I do. I have, I have certainly let it go. I mean, that's, that's a lot of, that's a lot of pressure on the little girl. Well, and there was me, the healer being out of control and not knowing and not really having anyone who could communicate about that and being in a crazy family. That was just a lot of activity, a lot going on all the time. Not really talking about feelings. Right. Right. You know, I was hoping that you figured all this out because at some point you might've been one of those people that has like a hundred cats in her house because she can't stand, you know, I mean, thank you. No, we got it. You know, I mean, well praise them. That's great that they're doing that and that's, you know, good work and all of that. But you know, that's, I'm a natural born rebel too. And I will tell you this, the dad Kennedys and the sex pistols and the, and the Ramones helped me get over it. There you go. There you go. Honestly, I'm not kidding. It was punk rock was a savior for me when I was in art school. I balanced you out a little bit. Otherwise, if you're so emotional and you're so worried, I mean, you know, then you, then you pretty much, um, And I kept it in. You forsake your own life for everyone else. Right. And then you're not really living. That becomes your life to live. Oh, you become some cat lady, you know, or, or, or dog person or something. Fortunately, I was more selfish than that. Yeah, no, you, I think you should be a little bit, a little bit of self because then you can actually, if you're healthy, then you can do something for other people. Exactly. Right. You really heal the world when you heal yourself. Right. You create a huge effect of, of healing when you do your own. Cause then people will talk to you because nobody wants to talk to the cat lady. Right. Well, you can't, you can't, you can't heal anybody. If you're, if you're, you know, defective, I mean, you gotta take care of yourself first. You gotta know. Yeah. Right. So, um, so I wanted to touch a little bit on your, um, your, your last couple of episodes that I listened to, one was on value and one was on certainty. And those are, uh, Concepts. Concepts. Spiritual concepts. Spiritual concepts. Vibrations of energy. That you use to, uh, uh, do readings on people per se. Okay. Right. Well I might do it as a reading, but I might also just look for those energies. They might show up in different peoples. Got it. Got it. Pictures. Got it. Okay. Concepts. Concepts. Interesting. So I listen. The concept. The concept. The concept. The concept. The concept. The concept. I like it. The ca ca ca ca concepts. Get on the ca ca ca concepts. Concepts. Yeah. So I was listening to, I was listening to, um, One, uh, and, and you, and the way I like And when you speak, when you're doing a reading, you go, okay, so I see a picture of, the picture that I'm seeing is this, is how you put it. And so you, and the majority of your callers happen to be women, which is another, you know, when you talk about men, you know, men should be doing this. Men should be, as a whole, should be trying to heal themselves spiritually. Trust me, if all the men in this world worked on healing themselves spiritually, we would not have all the excessive aggression that goes on here. I agree. And women too, but I'm just saying. And if the women decide to step up and value themselves, the men will not need to be in the front anymore. It can be more of a balance. But I'll tell you, the school I came from in Chicago was started by a man. He's a brilliant healer and a brilliant teacher, and he has a lot of men at that school. He does? What's his name? Yes. His name is Kenneth Jones. Kenneth Jones, big up! Hold on a second. Let me give Kenneth. Big Ken. He's pretty cool. Hold on a second. But anyway. Hold on a second. We can give Ken a big up, because, you know. A big up. Big up, Kenneth! Big up, Kenneth Jones, you boomer! Taking all those men with their tighty-whities, coming up and meditating and getting whole with their spiritual axiom. Big up! Yeah. Oh my God. I'll have to tell him to listen. So, okay, so. So. So, yeah, so you had the concept of value. And this woman, I listened to, it was good. And by the way, watch, if you watch Chris's show, watch it, because there's a video. And you can watch the show live, I meant to say. You can go to skidrowskidders.com. Every Thursday night, 9 to 10, there's a video thing, and it's live. You can check out the videos. I can wave for you. I won't show you my nipples, but, you know, the other shows do that shit here on the station. But you can check out Chris, and Chris talks to you. She looks at the video and says hi, and she's talking to the, you know, to the listener and the caller that she's reading. And so one of them calls, and she says, hi, Chris, how are you? You're like, hi, how you doing? Are you aware of the concept that we're talking about? She goes, yeah, values. And I'm thinking, and I'm thinking, and so Chris, Chris goes, well, I have a picture of him. And before you can say anything, I said. I said, I have a picture of dirty ashtrays thrown all over the place, cat shit, and Alcoholics Anonymous books that haven't been opened in about five years. Oh, my God. That's what I was looking at. You're trashing my, my callers. No, no, no, no. But, but, well, you were talking about judgment. You were talking about judgment. That's me. That's me. Oh. That was me. I got you. I'm judging her. I understand. By her voice. Yeah. Right? So, so my thing is, how do you go, because you clearly see something, right? You're clearly picking up on some energy. I'm looking at pictures. Right. So often you see me close my eyes. Uh-huh. That was how I was trained. It's more about a going within, but it's working on a clairvoyant level. I'm looking at pictures. We all have, you know, you see things all the time. Sure, sure. What I trained to do was look at energy and not judge what I'm seeing. Nine times out of 10, when you see a picture of something or with somebody, if you're not in judgment, you're seeing the actual energy. Right. So I'm looking for what's the, where's this person's spirit? Like, what's their picture with this? Uh-huh. And I'll read it. And often it just makes no sense to me. And that's the hardest thing in the world to read a picture that makes no sense because I'm judging it. And then when I have to, I learned very early on, no, don't judge it, just read it. And I can't even count the number of times, thousands over the years where people are like, that's exactly the picture. That's exactly what it looks like. That's exactly, you know, and there, and these are some sometimes very skeptical people. So it's really fun. So, so, so that's interesting because as you're saying this, I'm seeing pictures. Good. What are you seeing? Well, here's the thing. I'm going to, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you why not everybody is a psychic, right? Right. Or not everybody's in touch with their psychic ability. Because as you're saying this, I'm seeing little pictures, but I'm not paying attention to them. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. They're not clear. They're just images and they're just going like this and I'm going, I'm, cause I'm trying to focus on you. Right. And I'm, and, and, and every day there are millions of those. I know they are because I'm, they come into my mind and I'm, and I have a story that goes on and they're clairvoyant. That has. You just haven't trained. You haven't trained it. Yeah. So, so, um, I'm, I'm training myself on the voyant tip, not on the clair, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, so. Nestor's very, he's, he's very intuitive. Intuitive. I'm very intuitive. And very in touch with other people in his surroundings around him. You, I think you have to be, I, you know, I sense. You are too. Oh, I don't know. You are. You are. You're very sensitive. I was picking up a lot of pictures, but that was, I was really getting, I was, I was imaging, I was imaging right now a D-Town burger. Oh, you are. Oh, you are. Is that what it is? D-Town, man. D-Town, man. He didn't, he didn't eat. He didn't eat anything. Cause he, cause we have this, this ritual. We go to this burger joint down here that's like unreal. I don't know if you eat meat or not, but it's like one of these places. It's like we, we stumbled upon that and it was like, oh my God, the best burger. It's great. But anyway, so, so the picture, so, so I'm, I'm understanding where you're coming from now. Not judging those, just taking them in, just letting them flow into you so you can present them. Right. I'm specifically, and I'm also being a direct, like a kind of a, an inspector, like a detective. Got it. Cause I'm looking, I'm not, Miss Cleo would talk about what the spirits tell her. She was being a medium. Right. I'm not reading as a medium. Right. I'm reading as a clairvoyant. Right, right, right. I'm being very proactive. Got it. I'm looking at the pictures, not judging and seeing. I'm like, what is this? Where does this go? And I'm, that's what I'm asking when I'm looking. Right. You're not, you're not letting somebody else tell you what you're seeing. You're like, don't tell me what the fuck to do. I know what I see here, man. I see many, many pictures. I don't need your spiritual bullshit. I know my own man. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. So, all right. Fantastic. So, so what was interesting is that you saw me, you thought I was judging your viewers, but I'm seriously, I'm sitting there. I'm aware of my thoughts. That's one thing. I'm always constantly aware of my thoughts. And I was, that was one of the things, that's where I get my sense of humor, by the way. Right. And how I can put it in paper to make it a joke. Cause I'm watching my thoughts, my whacked out thoughts. You know what I mean? Right. It was a whacked out moment. I'm listening to your show. And as this woman's calling, I'm thinking, she's seen a picture. I saw this picture. You know what I mean? Based on my judgment of her. You may not be wrong. I'm telling you. You may not be. But that's not the picture. That's not the picture you would see. No. Which is great. Cause I was looking at a specific thing. I was reading everybody according to their value pictures. So Chris is dealing with the value, the valuable ones. Not the ones that are fucking bad. Not the ones that are bankrupt. And the ones that have been burnt and collected moss and shit like that. I was picking up on those. Chris was like, I see those dirty ashtrays. I'm going to focus on this picture right here. The picture of your relationship. Right now what I'm seeing is that you need to kick that lazy ass boyfriend of yours out of the house. You need to grow. You need to grow. You need to grow as a woman. You need to be independent. Okay. So you can buy your own cigarettes. Okay. That's what you need to be doing. All right. Alcohol only costs $6.99 a bottle. You don't need to buy a cigarette. You don't need him. All right. You feel me? You follow me? Anyway, that's fucked up. You're hilarious. But that's my thing. All right. So, but I really like. I'm not looking for anyone to work with me in my job. He's auditioning for your show. He's auditioning. So there's no opening? Sorry. Sorry, Mr. There's no opening? You could have a multi-level thing. Essentially what you're doing is you're undressing the situation. You're looking through the clothes or the curtain of what we normal people will hear. And you're spiritually going through that. You know, we're just, we stop right at, hi, how you doing? I got a psycho. You know, and then you think of, you know. I think it's awesome. But you're, but you, yeah. And that's amazing that you can tap into that and be accurate. So you were talking about. If I judge, I can't see it. Right. Right. And so. You were talking about value and certainty. I thought there were two. Two brilliant shows. I really do. Thank you. Because value is, we put value on things and we measure our own value based on other things outside of ourselves. Yeah. And that's how we walk around in this, in this, in this earth and how we react and relate to other people. Yeah. You know, and certainty. I was really into that. So, so briefly explain to me value and certainty when you, when you use them. Well, these are just some of the, I use many, many different. But value, about a few years ago, I started writing about, and it was just, just after the economy really hit the fan. And in 2010, 2009, we're pretty dire. You know, in 2010, really, I just, it was just like in the, and I, and that's when I started realizing more and more and more, the more people I read what, you know, my, my business just goes up a little bit in times like that. Cause people are like, what do I do? And I just kept seeing over and over. Everyone had to blow a picture. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. clean earth, you know? I mean, we got to wake up. Yeah. So that's what I say. What do you value? What I value? Not you per se, but I'm saying that's a question. But yeah, what do you value? Me personally? Yeah. Why not? One thing, two things. You know, I value, all right, I'll tell you, I value my marriage and my husband. He's amazing. I've been married for 20 years. Yeah, me too. And I, to my husband? No. I didn't know. Same thing. I'm kidding. And I value, you know, I just, I value the energy of spirit, of love. You know, to me, that's, I love doing this. I really love doing what I do. I'm very passionate about it. I see that. I see that. I'm very grateful. So, okay. So, if you would, would you, would you want to do a reading right now? I can do a reading. Of Rich and myself or myself and Rich? Yeah, we don't have a lot of time, but I can definitely do it. Well, let's do one. Let's do one. Do Nestor. Let's do a reading on value. All right. I'm going to, you know what I'm going to do, Nestor? Do what you want. I'm going to do the picture. What I want to do is do a quick little reading on how you're changing the value of your show. Oh, love it. Okay. Love it. That's a big one. So, it'll just take me a moment here. I'm going to close my eyes for a little. I tend to do that when I'm giving a reading. Take your time. And the picture I see, the picture I see is, it starts off with you sitting at this little, tiny little fishing hole with a, like a bamboo pole with a, you know, a string and you're trying to catch something in this little teeny tiny fishing hole. And you're like, all of a sudden, you just get bored. This is just getting bored with, it's not deep enough. At first, it was interesting. It was nice to just sit there and do this. And then you kept looking over at this other one where there are all these people. And it's not about leaving, you know, this place as Skid Row. That's not how I see it. I see it as you stepped away from sort of just being at your own little fishing hole to going, to walking over to where there are all these people. And they're not all necessarily talking to each other, but there's a community. It's like a community energy, a community feeling. And I see this picture of you valuing, even though you already do, but it's like some how you valuing community more or that interaction or intimacy communication rather than at people. It's more like with people. Somehow there's a valuing of being with people because you do value people and you have a lot of affinity for human interaction. But I see that with your show and these value pictures, there's something about you stepping up in terms of your communication and the being with people. So I know you were talking about having more interviews, but it looks like it's something else too. And I'm not sure what, I don't know how that is. I mean, you're creative. You'll come up with a way. It looks like your value picture looks like it's kind of stepping away from the small picture and going to a bigger one. Got it. Bigger picture. Got it. The good thing is this is recorded, so I can always go back and listen to it again. You can always go back and listen. So how about doing a reading on certainty? For you? Yeah. Oh yeah. Certainty. Because we got two. Why not? Two for one. Yeah. Those are too big. Those are huge. Those are too huge. Yeah. The picture with certainty is your skeet shooting. And you know, it's not, you're not shooting actual birds or anything. No birds were harmed in this reading. Clay pigeons. Clay pigeons. Exactly. Your skeet shooting. Like you're. Oh yeah. And I just see like somebody off is, you know, sort of, you're going, okay. And then they're letting another one out and you're going, you know, and you're getting better. And this is your certainty picture. You, it looks like you used to only hit like one out of every 20 and now you're up to like one out of every four. Like there's this, you're getting more certainty. It looks like what you decided to do was let go of all there's, there's some, a certain amount of, um, overthinking it that you're releasing kind of over analyzing and overthinking that you're starting to let go of. Or, and actually part of it is I see your spirit standing outside you yelling at you saying, stop thinking so much. Why are you crying? Why are you crying? You want me to hit you in the head? You want me to tell you why you crying? Your dad's spirits like coming around. He's haunting you. You know what? But Chris, the show is almost, almost over. Yeah. And it has literally dissipated effortlessly as if it was five minutes. Yeah. Okay. And so you're going to have to be on the show again at some point. I'd love to. I really, really, really enjoyed conversing with you on this topic. I mean, I mean, I, I didn't even get like halfway through of any like, but, but, but we got, we got through some interesting things. But you had an outlier. You know what? In life, in life, in life, it's about. I always have one. Well, in life, it's about being prepared. That doesn't mean that it's going to happen the way you had it prepared. See, my, my, my way of operating many times is that I don't prepare because I just go on my crazy energy that I'm going to be able to do it anyway, which basically interferes with the actual creativity then. So it's kind of like a double-edged sword. So that's part of what I've been doing. And trying to do is prepare more for this. Anyway, we're coming to a close. What's your website again? ChrisKHill.com. And your other website? PsychicEveryDay.com. And we can go to your websites and check out your blog and take some of your classes and get more in tune and in touch. Yeah. Or say hello. Yeah. And Rich, we're going to go to D-Town Burger after this. Oh, yeah. And for all y'all motherfuckers out there. D-Town Burger every day, every day, every day. And for all y'all motherfuckers out there in the hair, in the hair, hair, hair, you don't stop everywhere. Skid Row. Skid Row. Skid Row. Skid Row. SkidRowStudios.com. Every Thursday night from 9 to 10 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. Midnight to 1 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. Check us out on iTunes. If you care to, follow us on Facebook. Sign up on Twitter. I don't know what the hell you're going to do there, but do it because that's what all the young cats are doing. You know what I'm saying? We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. So y'all gotta like, you know, encourage me the whole way along.