Murder City Devils interview and album preview

Hi, this is Jell-O Biafra What should you rather have? A pint of booze if you're a recovering alcoholic Or a pint of cacophony no matter what or who you are Speak into the mic, bitch Say that into the microphone Keep on rockin' in the free world And I mean rock, not hop-hop Not indie-poo Not middle-of-the-road, Miley Cyrus-y Dreck You're a freak with a microphone Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Ah! Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Good evening, ladies and fellas. This is a pint of cacophony. My name's Dan Pacinello, and this is Skid Row Studios. Today's huge. Very big. Huge. It's so huge. So huge. It's almost as huge as Alex. Yes, almost. We got the Murder City Devils in here today with a fucking new record. Spencer Moody and Cody Willis. They're gonna be joining us in a little bit here, and it's gonna be great times. We're gonna get to know them a little bit better. But almost as important as the Murder City Devils. It's Alex's birthday. It was Alex's birthday yesterday. You guys. The boy has turned into a man. He has. He grew pubes. He showed me yesterday. I've had pubes. He grew pubes. He was like, hey, dude, look, I'm 25. I've always. Check this shit out. I got pubes now. What's weird, though, and it freaked me out a little bit is they're gray. He's old already. They're old man pubes. No, you've got brown hair, red sideburns, and a little bit of gray. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Gray pubes. I don't seem to understand it, but I love you, brother, and happy birthday. Thank you, dude. I appreciate it. Happy birthday, Alex. Thank you. Thank you very much. I won't yell at you today just because it's your birthday. Good. Hey, if he fucks up, you yell at him. That's your job. Well, of course, if he messes up, I'm still gonna yell at him. But I usually yell at him even if he does a good job. So today, I'm gonna hold back. I'm gonna restrain. It's all yelling with Jessica. Pretty much. It's because I love you, boo. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Let's get into some music so we can get to know what we're fucking in for tonight. Yes, please. Please. I can feel the drive, baby. Yeah. It's the Mercedes. I'm trying to hold back the feeling. I know. I know. I know. I know. I'm looking at the walls of corporation I can't defend you to them I would like to see more of them The parachute of righteousness is golden The parachute of righteousness is golden The parachute of righteousness is golden But I just don't want to work for Scum anymore Well, yes, but I'm afraid I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid I have something of a mess on my hands. I heard he dabbled in the witchcraft I heard all cults, oh, they're pretty much the same I guess he was adopted, oh, raised by wolves That's ridiculous to say I heard he fought over this town Half the time, so nothing new I heard that too, it's true Life to life, life to life Life to life, life to life Life to life, life to life Life to life I heard he was a monster, a scary ghost Oh, you know there's no such thing I heard he pulled over, cursed down, had the touch so nothing grew I heard that too, it's true Back to life, back to life We're left with some stories in earth But this is the part that we'll learn Nobody learned And now nothing knows Always a shy, unremarkable man Then one day he'd had it and threw up his hands He filled up his lungs and he folded his hair He became a monster And now nothing speaks any better You'll never know How scary he'll be I heard he dabbled in the witchcraft I heard he was a ghost Oh, they're pretty much the same I guess he was adopted Oh, raised by wolves That's ridiculous too I heard he pulled over, cursed down, had the touch so nothing grew I heard that too, it's true Back to life, back to life Back to life, back to life Back to life, back to life Back to life, back to life Back to life, back to life Back to life Black to light, black to light We're left with some stories to tell But this is the part that we're lost Nobody learned And now nothing grows Always this giant remarkable man Then one day he died and threw up his hair He filled up his lungs and he folded his hair And he killed us with his lips and he fell You'll never know How sorry you'll be The looks on their faces, you'd swear they were dead He finally sunk into the bone when he said The same will be paid in the heart This will crumble, your fears will have fallen for years And nothing will grow People must be covered once in a while With a smile on their face A legend would help you to live for more He'll cause up a blood-drenched ass in the air And stink like a murder of peace And nothing will grow I bet you're the kind of guy that would fuck a person in the ass And not even have the goddamn common courtesy So that you give him a reach around We're not the kind of hookers that come and give you what you want. We're the kind of hookers that give you what you need. And you need rock and roll. Rock and feel it. You need rock and roll. That's right. And you want rock and roll. You need rock and roll. We got for you right now Dude, I had the craziest night Things got totally out of hand I got super wasted and I don't remember what happened All I remember is seeing those flashing red and blue lights behind me Now I'm looking at a DUI Aw man, that's gonna cost so much money How are you gonna pay for that? Getting in trouble with the law Is never an easy thing to deal with The constant stress over how to get past your sticky situation Doesn't always have to completely overcome you Attorney Alexander Fuquay Focuses on DUI and criminal defense He will help your case with less of a headache Contact Alexander Fuquay at Fuquay Law Center If you are facing any problems If you are facing any criminal arrest charges And we're talking any He can help If your case is drug related, a DUI Or you've been charged with something more serious No problem Just visit his website at www.fuquaylawcenter.com Or call 626-385-8840 The Fuquay Law Center serves anywhere in California Including Los Angeles, San Diego, and Orange County Tomorrow It's not like they're maniacs or anything The murder city devils Why are they doing this? Why are they doing this? They said when you get here, the whole thing started Who are you? Who are you? Where did you come from? I think you're the cause of all this I think you're evil Evil! The white ghost has blood on its hands again People don't commit murder on credit This Tuesday, August 5th You didn't see the killing or the body How do you know there was a murder on credit? There was a murder The murder city devils Welcome back to a punic... Explosion, sorry Welcome back to a punic... My name's Dan Pacinello I got the murder city devils in front of me Or at least Spencer Moody and Cody Willis How you two doing? Pretty good Very well Should I be embarrassed over what you just heard? Are we supposed to guess the movie? No, no, no I think we went Hitchcock theme Could you guess the movie? Could you guess what movies were in it? No, I have no idea No I got the full metal jacket earlier Oh yeah, that was definitely in there I'm glad you guys are in here This is awesome for sure And it's great that we have the new record and everything The white ghost has blood on its hands And that comes out tomorrow How stoked are you guys? Pretty stoked Good, cool, pretty stoked It's being followed You guys doing a whole little west coast tour over it You guys got FYF on the 24th Glasshouse 26 Pappy and Harriet's on the 27th Pappy and Harriet's So this new album drops tomorrow How did you guys come up with the title? The cover art was from My wife had a piece of artwork that she made And we wanted to use the image for the album cover And the image already had the words in it So that was it So you pretty much just looked at it Yeah And you were like this is the white ghost has blood on its hands Correct It pretty much said it all for you Yeah And it sort of I mean some of the ideas of some in the songs it correlates perfectly So it's good Did that come before the title or after the title? The title we didn't know The title was like the record was done And then it was just by chance basically Yeah there was nothing intentional And the stars seemed to align It worked out Yeah Awesome So the white ghost has blood on its hands Is the first new studio album since 2000 Then you get split Toured again in 09 And you tease us with a live album and a box set Two singles and then no record So why now? I guess it was just when we were able to pull it together And be able to all be in the room together without anyone Without any meanness or I don't know I don't know It was just we just this was the how long it took The timing was right Yeah Yeah we also lucked out We have a Dan the guitar player from Murder City He also plays in this band Cold War Kids And they have a studio in San Pedro that he works at And he helped build it out and everything So they were kind enough to let us use it to record the record So it was we did a couple different sessions And pulled different songs from it Most of it is from the most recent session But it was just like a really great live room to be in Where we rigged everything to record live So we're all in the same room together So it was a really fun process Just like writing songs and recording as we went So we you know picked the best songs Is that how the process was? Yeah So did you show up with material prepared or No a lot of it Not really A lot of it is we all wrote it at the same time in that room So it just it happened very organically Would you like to say something? Yeah I think it was great That's awesome Yeah Why don't we do a little bit of history here So how did you guys just for people who don't know How did you guys come together originally And when that all happened? The Murder City Devils So we were just Cody and I were just talking about this We're thinking probably like 1996 is probably when we started And there were basically Kendrick and Dan Gallucci and myself had already been in bands together And we wanted to move in more like kind of We thought that we were moving away from punk music And becoming like a rock and roll band Which didn't actually in retrospect didn't really happen But we needed a drummer and our friend I think Kendrick Is Kendrick? Yeah I met Dan at a party that was at Kendrick's house So we needed a drummer And someone said that you should have Cody Willis play drums And we did And then the Murder City Devils were born? Yeah That was it Is it true that the Murder City Devils was the name of another band You guys just kind of borrowed it Yes that is true Why don't you tell us that story Is it Quitty? Is it John Quintner's name? Josh Ploog or John Quintner I think Josh Ploog came up with the name but he wasn't in the band I think that maybe Quitty was and maybe with I don't know maybe Larry? Was it one of the girls from The Need? Probably I don't know Josh was from Olympia right? Josh Ploog yeah he lived in Olympia And he would be a go to person for band names Yeah oh my god And John Quintner as well Yeah yeah Quitty did he was in Tight Bros from way back when And yeah they had a band called The Needed They had a band called The Murder City Devils which we thought was a great name That's an awesome name I think they the life span of the band was like it was like two weeks And they maybe played a show or something But the band was over it was done with so But we got permission So like you guys formed and you're like we need a band name You're like we really liked that one Is it cool if we use it? Yeah can we take your band name? And that's how it went and you guys just Yeah we did it You stole it I guess Yeah we should have looked around more I don't think you should have I don't think you should have I think the name suits you guys so fucking well I think it's great Like at this point like I think you came to own it for yourselves Definitely Yeah anytime that's my one of my least favorite things about being in a band is picking the name of the band Because it's such a monumental thing but at the same time after a year it just loses all its original meaning anyway And it becomes I mean yeah you think about all the big ones too it's like The Who What a fucking shitty band name But like what a great fucking rock band and then like The Who becomes that Yeah it doesn't mean whatever It originally meant you know so Yeah exactly So it's stupid We both me and my board up here we both bought copies of In Name and Blood just the vinyl itself And in the liner notes you guys have like different crime scenes with you guys and I'm sure that photo shoot was fun but we're just curious just like Did you guys make up causes of deaths for yourself? Yes Can we please hear them? Oh well they're just like pretty straight forward like stabbed with a bomb Oh well they're just like pretty straight forward like stabbed with a bomb Yeah I mean there wasn't like more creative than that There was a clue I think I was Dispenser in the hallway with a bottle Yeah didn't you get some fake Cody Fake entrails Fake guts I think I was beaten to death in a phone booth with the phone was it was supposed to be What else Dan hung himself I don't know Yeah Or someone hung him Yeah Gabe was in the bathtub I think Yeah oh yeah I think he had some had some props Yeah That's great so what's the difference between touring now and then back you know since you guys really started doing this? You know since you guys reformed and we're here Everybody knows what they're doing a lot more I guess Everybody knows how to tour and we know each other and so it's not it's way more laid back than it used to be How was it before for you guys? Well you guys did some west coast touring but Yeah very little I mean just a little bit mostly I mean it was like I mean when we started touring we didn't have like a record or anything you know I mean like we were like a little bit of a Yeah You know I mean no one it was like pretty I mean before it was before the murder city devils when I remember the first time I was ever in a band that got paid a hundred dollars For a night To play a show and I thought fuck like we could really do this A hundred bucks a night every night A hundred dollars Okay Yeah You know more than gas There's only four people you split a hundred dollars A hundred dollars maybe spend twenty dollars on that For several days Yeah twenty dollars on the calling card so you can use the pay phone to phone in your next gig Yeah Yeah we didn't have murder city devils didn't have like a cell phone Yeah You know what I mean I think Cody got the first cell phone and then we all just ruthlessly made fun of him because we thought that it was like the stupidest How big was it Why the fuck would you need a fucking cell phone It was like yeah it was like a Nokia it looked like a it looked like it held skittles or something Was it the one that they beat you to death in in the phone booth with No no that was that was analog The size of a brick Yeah pretty much So yeah I mean we just I mean we didn't know what we were doing at all like we'd you know booked our own tour I think well no the first tour I think was like a The guy from the Aaron from the Mono Men Oh the Mono Men that's so great Yeah he was our booking agent and He did a bad job He really did He went to jail while we were on tour Yeah we tried to call him So we couldn't get a hold of him to help us with anything And well no we called him we had two shows like fall through in Texas we were totally broke in Texas and we tried to call our booking agent and the person on the other end of the phone let us know that he had been arrested for punching a cop In the bar that he runs the night before so But actually in retrospect he did a really good job because why would anyone be booking us you know what I mean Right Like he actually did a good job by finding any shows But it would be like He made it work We would always be for a long time actually we would like it seemed like we were always at the we were on the same street as the bar where we wanted to play Gotcha But we were like next door you know like we played the like I don't know We played like next door to Emo's Gotcha You know like yeah That's pretty fucking classic You guys got FYF coming up this month Or it was the gazebo in the park Yeah From across from the bar that we wanted to Yeah The murder city gazebo No we actually we saw the gazebo and the kids gathered there and I think we just kept driving on that one We were kind of assholes We ditched out on several shows early on When we'd be like we'd be there And then no people would show up And then we'd just leave You'd be like nah it's not worth it Yeah And just leave Yeah Well things have definitely changed for you guys FYF's coming up On the 24th You guys stoked about that Yes Absolutely Who are you guys excited to see there I don't know who's playing God in the Bronx Slow dive Slow dive I'm looking forward to seeing slow dive in the Bronx You got the strokes as well The strokes really that's that's fucking awesome I would love to see the strokes I think it's gonna be a great week and Alex is gonna be there and he's gonna cover it for us Maybe he can bug you guys We'll see how that goes Just to go in the next song block here You guys were featured on a King's compilation back in 2001 What made you guys choose to cover Outlaw What made you guys choose to cover alcohol Quab told us to Yeah the guy who put that together is guy Quab Yeah In Seattle he's I think he kind of had suggestions Yeah He compiled all the bands and then he gave you a suggested song He's like I think you guys could do you could nail alcohol so let's do alcohol Which he Quab knows his kinks he's in a really insane amazing King's cover band that they were amazing They could play everything so he's like a super fan so he had it in his mind what he wanted to do He made the right choice that was the right song Who are we to say no yeah Yeah Well right on man we're gonna go on into playing your guys' version of alcohol because it's one of our fucking favorite songs here by the Kings And then we're gonna go song by song through the new record and I think a lot of people are stoked about that And I think we even have a call on the line but we'll get to that You're listening to A Pineapple Cacophony let's get back to this All right Let's go I heard the murder city devils are playing at some Andean reservation Oh yeah Yeah I heard it was gonna be intense Yeah See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense See that's gonna be intense Drunk and lagging, some salvation on me mission Is such a shame Oh, demon alcohol Sad memories I can't recall Who thought I would say Damn it all, blow it all Oh, demon alcohol Sad memories I can't recall Who thought I would fall A slave to demon alcohol Sad memories I can't recall Who thought I would fall A slave to demon alcohol Oh, demon alcohol Oh, demon alcohol She'll turn him to the drink Oh, demon alcohol She'll lead him to the brink And when the money's gone She'll leave him in the gutter It's such a shame Oh, demon alcohol Sad memories I cannot recall Who thought I would say Damn it all, alcohol Oh, demon alcohol Memories I can't recall Who thought I would fall A slave to demon alcohol Sad memories I can't recall Who thought I would fall A slave to demon alcohol Sad memories I cannot recall I figured if I blew myself early I'd be nice and relaxed for a nine o'clock dinner reservation. She is a shotgun blast I am a pin drop She is a whole load From a cocaine And I'm a pen dispenser She's graceful, She's a truth I'm from the best of style But when she touches me I'll take me to talk For longer ages after She is my whole world She is my whole world She's the queen and I'm the joker Her under wraps are on her finger That's right She is a shotgun blast I'm a pin drop She is the mighty Arizona I'm a trickle dripping Out of a foster She's graceful, She's a cool I'm from the distraught She's been a whoreman She's a pick me up She's when I think I've lost it She is my whole world She's the queen and I'm the joker Her under wraps are on her finger That's right She's graceful, She's graceful, She's the queen and I'm the joker Her under wraps are on her finger That's right She's graceful, She's the queen and I'm the joker She is a shotgun blaster and a pin drive She gives the whole boat full of cocaine And I'm a pen dispenser She's graceful, keeps her cool I fumble this drive When she touches me I'm ten feet tall No longer a disaster No longer a disaster Why? Why? Take it. Why? You need it. Why? Oh, fuck! Because it's song by song. Welcome back to A Panic of Coughney. My name is Dan Pacinello. We're going to go song by song, at least through a few of your songs here. And we'd like love, to hear you talk about, you know, after we go through each one, the writing process, or how each one came to fruition, and that kind of thing. Is there any, we're going to go into cruelty, a balance for us. Is there anything you want to say about that first before we play? Let's just hear it. Yeah. You know what I want to hear is, I feel like the PSAs you've done for the attorney. Oh, yeah. I feel like I've heard the beginning of two really interesting stories that I'd like to hear the rest of it. You want to hear the rest? The DUI story, and the guy losing his job. What happened to these guys? Yeah. You know what? We'll figure that out, and we'll make a scene. Okay. Like for the next episode or so, and we'll email that to you. Let's hear the part two. Yeah. We'll hear like exactly what happened. Did they get off? Yeah. Did they die? Yeah. Did the guy find another job? Is he going to be okay? Yeah. What did he do? How did he get fired? Like why was he wrongfully accused in the first place? Was it how he dressed? Was it? Yeah. All right. Let's go into this song. It's called Cruelty Abounds, it's on The White Ghost Has Blood on His Hands Again, which comes out tomorrow. Let's hear this, and let's hear your take on how that happened. Okay. Okay. Okay.! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. He described as poor, then he cried That's the direction of decline My aspirations are not to break up My aspirations are not only for legal My aspirations are not exclusively for legal Does cruelty rule? I do not know But it sure gets around Yeah, burn it, burn it, burn it, burn it Does the sinner wanna write the song? I do not know, but it's sure It's under the jaw of its own My aspirations are not To break up For legal My aspirations are not only for legal My aspirations are not exclusively for legal It's under the jaw of its own It's under the jaw of its own It's under the jaw of its own It's under the jaw of its own It's under the jaw of its own Does cruelty rule? I do not know But it sure gets around Yeah, burn it, burn it, burn it, burn it Does cruelty rule? How could I know? Body shirt gets around It gets around, it gets around, it gets around, it gets around, it gets around Better bounce Better bounce Welcome back to Panic Cacophony. That was Cruelty Abounds off of you guys' new record. Yes, it was. It was sick, man. Why don't you guys tell us about how that one was? What's it about? I mean, does cruelty rule? I don't know. But it sure gets around. That's what it's about. That's basically sums it up. That's it. You know what I mean? I don't know. There you go. This whole record we wrote in the studio, you know, with everybody else. I think Derek had, this was Derek's riff on bass. That's how it started. So we figured it out and rearranged it. And Spencer had the words. And it's funny. We didn't have a political agenda in mind when we started the song. But it just came to be what it should. Yeah, yeah. Which felt really good. It felt genuine, you know. When did you guys start working on this record? Well, we've been doing, since we have this studio situation, we can use in San Pedro. We've done a couple different sessions, like when everybody can get together. And it's just been like a week of like driving to Pedro and hanging out at the studio and seeing what comes out. Like crank one out, crank two out. And then until next time. There's been ones that we did end up using that, you know, they felt great at the time and we thought they're awesome at the time. And then you come back, you know, a month later and listen to it again. Maybe not so much. It just didn't fit in with like the overall prevailing flavor of the songs. Right. The big picture for the record. Yeah. And if you listen to this record, there's some really good things. Yeah. Yeah. There's some really different songs on there. Like it varies quite a bit. Like this next one, Don't Worry. This is the last song on the track, right? Yeah. I know we're kind of playing it out of order, but I just think it's important to touch on this one. Because like we were talking about off mic, like that's a little different, but I think it's, I don't know. Let's let the audience speak to the judge. We're going to play this and hear what you guys have to say about it. This is Don't Worry off the new record. I think I'll name a blank. Thank you. So the whole world can see Are the sirens coming from outside Or through my stereo You can come home if you want to Just remember country roads Can be hard on the fancy car More success in explosions Explosions out of control I didn't say don't worry I said don't you worry about me guitar solo Everyone talked about Evangeline Be the prettiest girl The world ever seen guitar solo I said don't you worry about me Out there Out on the scene Everybody talked about Evangeline I didn't say don't worry I said don't you worry about me guitar solo I didn't say don't worry I said don't you worry about me guitar solo from outside through my stereo oh you can come home if you want you just remember country road give me a hard honor on a fancy car I didn't say don't worry I said don't you worry about me I didn't say don't worry I said don't you worry about me here we are in a panicked coffee my name is Dan I'm sitting here with Spencer and Cody from the Murder City Devils that was Don't Worry off of The White Ghost Has Blood On Its Hands Again which comes out tomorrow I don't know I'm loving it how are you guys loving it since being in the studio and now hearing it again it's cool I like hearing it on the radio yeah during the break you were talking about how your recording process this time on this record which is self released how you guys went in and kind of organically put it together yourselves played and then like hey that let's track this make that a song or choose not to how is that different than what it used to be before we used to have like well we don't have a regular band practice anymore so that's one thing so we used to go to band practice and practice songs that we already had and then work on new songs and then usually there would be some degree of playing those songs live and maybe touring even with a song and then you go into a recording studio with a record producer who is going to be kind of and then you sort of it turns into this new kind of collaboration with someone who has their own ideas about how it's supposed to sound and also I feel like when we were making records before we sort of had an agenda like we were a young band that was sort of trying to like make our way and we had the you know sort of if this doesn't work out then we're going to have to get jobs kind of fear so we were sort of willing to sort of like just sort of do what we need to do to like make people happy and stuff like that kind of risk it all because it's early enough yeah well no we weren't taking no not at all we were like doing what we were supposed to do gotcha and now it doesn't it doesn't matter we can do whatever the fuck we want and it's our band and we don't have a record label and if we start playing something and it feels right and we like it then we can just record it and and mix it how we want and put it out in the world and and and it doesn't and if people don't like it it doesn't matter that's gotta be like a sense of freedom though for you guys it's gotta be satisfying on some level it's neat it makes it all more it makes it what it always should have been sort of I think but at the same time we were in a different place and I understand why we were doing things that way and we were and the attitude we had at the time made it possible for us to all be united and to do it at the time we were on the gusto train and we had a mission and so we were focused on achieving something but and also we had a we had sort of these ideas about what we wanted well like listening to you guys and listening to you guys listening to that song that you just played I just was thinking about how that was kind of the song that we wanted to make right before like that's the song when I was like I wanted to make that song when I was 21 but we couldn't what were the restrictions then? we weren't very good at what we did so we just had to hold on and just do it you know like like you know we weren't in a position to tell people to fight to fuck off you know gotcha because we needed all the help and we needed to try to like just get through the song right you know like just go in the room and like get all the way through the song or whatever and now that's now we can all just get through the song because we're like musicians now and I feel like that bleeds into like even touring like you were saying how it's easier now because you guys know what you're doing like yeah I mean we've learned what not to do and enough times right exactly so yeah it's way more laid back and you don't I feel like things that we used to overthink and really obsess over we just can kind of let go now and just yeah make the kind of songs we want to make and not worry about it does that make the record just feel better for you? personally yeah like it really sucks to have to listen to a record that you had zero fun recording oh yeah like when you because even regardless of how other people hear it or how it turns out it's just it just for me anyway it just takes me right back to that time and how much I just wanted to get out of there and like get this over with and at least now I can listen to it like or anytime I hear it on the radio or whatever I feel good about it and like I was it's a non-lose losing situation like I'm proud of the songs I like the song we made and like it felt good to do it so that's awesome that's super insightful we're gonna go into the next one here and this is Pale Disguise which you guys have released off of this album already so that's been going around a little bit on the internet but let's hear it and hear your take on that one okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay guitar solo I have tears in my eyes Everyone knows Where does it fall? Does it steam up hell? I am I say I am I cry In dark and late and safe In my pale disguise I threw at the reeds They saw me turn to ice I only had one thing to say My only call So carve it in rock And let it be known He lost his yellow And it rained a single! And it rained a single! He lost his yellow And it rained a single! He lost his yellow And it rained a single! And it rained a single! It's all I have to say It's my only hope It's the whole of my truth It's the truth worth to be told May times help And fortunes unfold May I be instead Of the whole So cover the rock And let it be known Yeah See ya A dream Of setting go Oh See ya See ya Oh A dream Of setting go See ya See ya Oh A dream Of setting go See ya See ya Oh A dream Of setting go See ya See ya See ya See ya See ya See ya See ya That was Pale Disguise by the Murder City Devils off of The White Ghost Has Blood on Its Hands Again, which comes out tomorrow. And this is a pint of cacophony, and my name's Dan. I got Cody and Spencer sitting in front of me. What did you guys think of Pale Disguise? Hearing that back on the radio. That's cool. We were just talking about having to do things over and over again. Yeah, we were talking about the redundancy of a recording session. Striving for absolute perfection. In the drums, that's a good example of there's a lot of imperfections going on in that song. If you want to get your metronomes out, it speeds up and slows down all over the place. While we were talking, were you sitting there cringing like, fuck, that's not fair. No, no, no. What I was saying was it's more important that the feel of the song is good, I think, than having it be technically correct. I think that's what Spencer was saying during the break, too. I thought you were doing like a crescendo. What? Yeah, I was rushing up to this big climax that never happened. But what you were saying during the break, Spencer, that I thought was awesome was the difference between the passion and that. First take, and then sitting there with somebody behind the glass making you do it over and over and over and over again. And like that second one, is it really better? You want to elaborate on that a little bit and how that had to be on this album? Well, it was just nice the way we did it. That if we did it and everyone thought it was good, then it was good, you know? And it wasn't like a nitpicky. It was like about an overall feel. And then it frees you up to be like, like as far as singing, I could be like an emotional human being in the recording studio instead of having to be super focused on just making everything like exactly what it's supposed to be, which is like totally arbitrary anyway. Exactly. I feel like a music that breathes that way or like bands that don't play to a click track or that kind of thing, or like you were saying, how you heard those imperfections of the drums or whatever, but it's all about the feel. I think that carries through like way more and people, whether they think it or not or notice it or not, I think they fucking feel it. I don't know. I feel that with you guys. And I think there aren't very many bands that like you kind of catch that vibe off of. It's just like, it's just, it's pure passion. It's hard, it's gritty and it's fucking real. I think, I don't know. I think this new record does it and your last records have done it. I think it's cool. Cool. So the next song is Non-Participation. So we're going to go into that and then we're going to say our goodbyes and figure out how people can buy the fucking thing. Sounds good. I think people want to know that. This is my finger. Did I choose? I'm the one that chose. You're letting me alone. Hallelujah. I'm the one that chose. You're letting me alone. Hallelujah. My separation, it feeds our separation. My separation, it feeds your separation. This is... This is... This is... This is... This is... This is for dissipation. My non-participation. Collegiate cornered by a cabaret. Ancient professor. Bill Wayne's dainty killer. Separation, it drives my separation. Separation, it drives my separation. Separation, it drives my separation. Separation, it drives my separation. Separation, it drives my separation. Separation, separation, drive like separation I'm on my way, breaking, cornered, I can't wait, I can't, I can't, I can't Did I choose, did I choose, I saw what I chose You left me alone, hallelujah I have left you alone, hallelujah This is my face, it's the face of non-participation Imagine a great wall between us and my separation Drives your separation Collegiate, qualified, terrorist, highest Professor, felon, victim, killer Your separation, drive like separation Your separation, drive like separation This is my thing, look what I choose I saw what I chose Welcome back to Paganacophony. My name's Dan Pachanillo. That was non-participation. By the Murder City Devils off of The White Ghost Has Blood on Its Hands Again, which comes out tomorrow, which is what, like two hours from now? How cool is that? That's pretty cool. I just want to say thanks for both of you guys, like Spencer, and Cody for just coming down here and having, like giving us time to talk to you guys and share this with everybody. Thanks for having us. Yeah, thanks for having us, man. Oh, please. I mean, it's been good. The record's awesome. And I'm sure everybody right now, like we've talked about it for an hour. How did we get it? How did we get the record? You can come to a show. Which you fucking should. Yeah. All you guys out there. Tickets are still available. Yeah, come to a show or you can go to our website and I think you can order vinyl there as well. Right. The show's August 24th. You guys are going to be at FYF. Yes. On the 26th, you're going to be at the Glass House in Pomona. Yes. And the 27th, Pappy and Harriet's. Great barbecue. Good beer. Barbecue's very good there. That's good stuff. So the website, that's themurdercitydevils.com. Yep. So we can order vinyl from there or the digital download. Yep. And that posts tomorrow? I believe so. Or maybe in a couple hours. I'm not sure if it like goes down right at midnight. Right at midnight. Well, if you follow us on Instagram or Twitter or Facebook, we'll be posting the link. Thanks for all of the Murder City Devil stuff and their upcoming shows. Just wanted to say thanks one last time. It's been great, honestly. Thank you, man. All right. Thanks. Catch you guys next Monday. Bye. Bye.