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I'm going in. I'm going in. That is not the normal reaction I get when I touch a man's testicles, Sam, Dr. Sam. Well, do you usually touch a man's testicles in that manner? No, normally I'm not. You know what? Can you scoot toward me a little bit? My microphone won't go anymore. Look how cute we look. Thank you so much for coming in. You don't look anything like Ashlyn Malloy, Dr. Sam. I know. I know. My tits aren't quite as spectacular. Now, I haven't seen your ass, so your ass may be. My ass is phenomenal. Do you have a phenomenal ass? Yeah. What would you say is your best asset? Seriously. My best asset? Oh, geez. My hands. Oh, your hands. Why do you say that? Oh, because I'm really good with my hands. Everybody seems to like that. I've had no complaints on any other part of me. I really, my hands are just, yeah, I've got decent hands. Let me see your hands. And you just know what to do with them. They are nice hands. Oh, they're very smooth. You don't do a lot of yard work, do you? No, no. No, they kind of have, you know what they feel like up here? They feel like... They feel like a G-spot. It feels like you've been touching a G-spot and you've got permanent G-spot impressions on your fingers. Yeah, I've got that wave technique down, you know, the thing that everybody makes a big deal about now. What is the wave technique? You basically, you know, you kind of hook underneath and once you get your fingers in, you kind of hook underneath the pubic bone and then kind of give the wave technique. The wave. Once you do that and then gradually implement a little bit more force as the person, you know, gradually wants it. And hopefully with that with some clit stimulation, you'll have one big orgasm. So do you use your thumb on the clit while you're doing that? Or mouth, thumb, finger, whatever. You're a man of many thumbs. Hitachi. Or as in my case yesterday, three hot dogs from Scoobies. I did. I am Ginger Lynn. You are listening to Play With On Ginger. It's as usual. Will Ashley Malloy show up Tuesday? And today is... A big negative. We're going to have to start placing bets. Go on to Twitter. Follow me on Twitter. It's at BlameItOnGinger. And just say next for next Tuesday, yay or nay, whether you think Ashley Malloy will actually show up or not. You know, I like her too much to put her on my cunt list. So I can't do that. And I always told her, as long as you let me know. I didn't mean 10 minutes before the show. But we are lucky. I called Sam yesterday, Dr. Sam, and asked if you would come in and play. Oh, yeah. And welcome to the show. It's really good to have you. It's always a pleasure. You know me. I'm always available for you anytime you need me. And that means a lot to me. I know you've got a really busy full schedule. So the fact that you were up for it. Oh, yeah. I fit it all in. I'm good at that. Yes, you are. And we also have in the studio, Stevie! Stevie's not sure. I'm looking for Twitters. I'm looking for Twitters. I'm just... I'm looking for Twitters. I'm checking through my Twitters. I have Dr. Sam at SamZ507. Yeah, SamZ570. 570. 570. SamZ570. I better write that down, too, because our guest today is Sham, Dr. Sam. I call you Sam. I am going to be such a Dr. Seuss twister girl today. So it's... A Tuesday tongue twister. Tongue twister Tuesday? Okay. Z. 5-7-0. 5-7-0. What kind of a doctor are you, Sam? Sex, basically. I do some clinical therapy work with an MFT... Well, working towards the MFT licensure, but I also am trained as a sex therapist. That is so fucking cool. That's what I'm going for. Now, do you ever get in... Let's say you've got a couple. Do you get involved in their sex life? I mean, are you a surrogate at any point in time? No, I don't do any surrogate work. Okay. There are certain people who specialize in that, and they're... Alexandria? Yeah, absolutely. Who else? A few other people that are known kind of throughout the industry, and they are phenomenal. Part of it is being able to build that rapport and trust with someone who has no reason to trust that person, and only for the sake of getting them comfortable with their bodies, with their sexuality, with just how they are in bed. There's so many people that have so many little bugaboos about sex that this is, a lot of people, you know, view it as being, well, we're just being basically paying for a prostitute. But no, you're actually paying for someone who knows how to build rapport, how to establish that sense of comfort with somebody. So it's not just going in and trying to find somebody who can help you get it off real quick, and then you get comfortable that way. Because sometimes that can be even more traumatic, depending on the experience. Exactly. You know, I never thought of it as therapy, the way that you're describing it. And do you think that, who are the main type of person that would go to a sex surrogate? Is it surrogate or? Surrogate, surrogate, whatever. Tomato, tomato. But some people who've been through some sexual trauma, possibly. People who possibly have had abusive relationships in the past. Maybe people who have never had sex. I was going to say virgins would be my first guess. Yeah. People who've gone through their lives just not trying to do anything to get their sex. Yeah. People who've gone through their lives just not trying to do anything to get their sex. Yeah. People who've gone through their lives just not trying to do anything to get their sex. Yeah. People who've gone through their lives just not trying to do anything to get their sex. Yeah. People who've gone through their lives just not trying to do anything to get their sex. Yeah. People who've gone through their lives just not trying to do anything to get their year old virgin. Yeah. Which really does exist. Oh, absolutely. That's one of the reasons that I love doing the show so much is we have so many people who listen and are able to open up and get themselves to places that they normally wouldn't allow themselves to go to. And I'm kind of doing an educational service here. Absolutely. Well, given the fact that you have so much experience, it's one of those things that, I mean, I've seen, personally witnessed so many things coming out of your jar that it, you know, you're a person who speaks from authority, from experience, and your opinion is so valid and so valuable that it needs to be shared. Well, I thank you for that. I'm not quite always sure if it's valuable. Oh, it is. You are absolutely doing a service. I know that if anybody wants, can you open this for me? Sure. I need a mask. Thank you so much. I'm drinking my master cleanse tea again. Oh, God, keep that away from me. It's got all of the good. Why? Have you tried it? No, no. If anything is master cleanse, it's going to, I already have that problem physically with my stomach. I think you remember some of my old stomach issues. Yeah. So that right there is just, oh, goodness. It's lemon and water and cayenne and maple syrup. Oh, that's going to hurt. Yeah, but it works. It works. And I've got a benefit coming up. If anybody lives in the Miami area, I'm going to be at Showgirls Inc. this Friday or Saturday. Just go to Showgirls Inc. and look it up. There is a benefit for the fallen officers in the Miami area. A friend of mine owns a couple of clubs down in that area, and one of the officers was getting in between two of the patrons who were fighting, and he was shot and killed. Oh, geez. So my friend, it was awful, and he had three or four children. And so my friend does this charity benefit every year. We have a poker tournament, and we raise money for the fallen officers' children and families. That's awesome. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Make the best of a very horribly tragic situation. That's awesome. I'm very happy that you're doing that. Thank you. And it's all porn stars. It's a strip club, so there's probably, oh, I think there's about 10 of us going to be there this year. So each of the guests will be at a table with at least one of their favorite porn stars. Who else is going to be there? Shy Love. Shy Love. Oh, nice. And a bunch of new hot, oh, Aubrey Adams, and a bunch of new girls that, my boyfriend's birthday is coming up, and it's the weekend before or after we're going to be in Florida, and I'm thinking, what am I going to get him for his birthday? So I asked him, who would you like for your birthday this year? You're the best wife ever. And he said, you know, so he made a list, and the cutest thing was the last person on the list, and I can't think of who it is right now. But it was a mainstream actress. It was somebody like that I could never get to. It was so cute. But we couldn't, he couldn't come up with a girl because we're coming up on seven years together, so this is actually the sixth birthday of his that I've spent with him. And so every year I've just given him a girl, and I've usually picked her out myself and brought her over. Okay. So this year I said, you know, you pick the girl, whoever you want, and he's having difficulties. There's a lot of pressure in that. Is there? Yeah. You were the one making... I was the one making the choices for him. It's like, you know, you're the one that picked the food for him, and he was like, okay, you know, whatever. I'll eat that. And now you're asking him to actually flex an opinion. It's like asking a person, so what do you want to eat? And the conversation says, I don't know, what do you want to eat? And it goes back and forth until somebody makes the decision. Oh, I didn't think of it that way. I just thought it was simple. I can come up in a second with, you know, who do you want to sleep with? Yeah. My first choice right now is Aubrey Adams, which was on his list. The only problem with that... Is my very, very good friend of like 30 years. No, probably 25. But anyway, a long time. Has the hots for Aubrey. Ooh, okay. And it's his benefit that I'm going to... That would kind of put a hitch in things. So I'm thinking he wouldn't not expect it of me. You know, he knows who I am. The last time I was down there, I didn't want to tell you what happened the last time I was down there. Yeah. But it did end up... It ended up all over the Stern Show and every place else and, you know... Yeah. Yeah. So possibly also the pressure on him is that he may want to pick... may be feeling a little awkward about picking somebody that you may not approve of. You know, we talked about it. We have very, very different tastes in women. I prefer the more exotic type. I like the Asian girls. I like the dark haired girls. I like the brown eyes. I like that. Just... I have a big thing for Asian women. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I agree with you. I'm with you on that. You remember. I can't help it. And the least... the thing that I'm least attracted to is my type is the blue eyed blonde. Yeah. And so we... he is attracted obviously to the blue eyed blonde. So he always wants to be with somebody that looks like me, which bores me to fucking dance. But no, you know who we were with that is the blue eyed blonde and was the sweetest? The last girl I gave him wasn't even his birthday. No. No. It wasn't the last girl I gave them, but it was recently Shea Snow. Oh, nice. And Shea is not my type at all, but I so adore her. She went out and bought a little lingerie and dressed up for us. And just, she was the sweetest thing ever. And she's off living her life in another place now and doing other things. Oh, very good. She's just happy as can be. So she's not going to be on my list of people that we're going to do in the near future. Yeah, I think that kind of takes her off the list. It sounds like she's pretty happy right now. And usually, you know, happiness is the thing that matters above all. That's what I want for her. Yeah, absolutely. So can you think of any girls, anybody that you suggest that I could bring up to my boyfriend? Down the line, geez. Does he want somebody like younger or somebody more experienced? Preferably younger. Oh, jeepers. Angelina Chung. Angelina Chung. No, he doesn't want Asian. That's what I want. You would be all over that. Now, I would do Angelina Chung in a heartbeat. Yeah. I would do her in a heartbeat. So, no, we need somebody that's more, that is my type. Not my type of girl I'm looking for, but is more like me. How about Aaliyah Love? Don't know. Aaliyah Love. I know Aaliyah somebody else. Aaliyah, who did we have on the show recently? Aaliyah. Aaliyah. Aaliyah. Aaliyah somebody. Anyway. Aaliyah Love. Aaliyah Love. I think it's Aaliyah Love. So, Aaliyah Love. Aaliyah Love. Honey, write down Aaliyah Love. She might be a good choice for your birthday girl. We've got, speaking of women who have L's in their name, we've got L Sweet on the line. And poor L Sweet waited for us yesterday forever because I was too busy filling up my coochie with hot dogs. Hi, L Sweet. Hello, Ginger. Oh, how are you today? Hello, Dr. Hello. Hello, Stevie. Hey, hello. How are you? I'm okay. Ginger, I wanted to call yesterday because I wanted to thank you and Nina both for your birthday wishes. I took 47 spankings for you and I guess I owe you an apology because you're only turning 42. So, they gave me five to grow. Yeah, I was going to say that it was so sweet of you to do it that I just totally forget the extra five years. Oh, well, you know what? And those were for me. I was wishing you were older at the time. Nina is the best. I wish I could have a spanker ever. She really knows how to cup her hands and spank with it. She's got a really good... I like the thud, not so much the sting. And Nina's got a good... So, I can take a lot of thud. I can take a good lot of thudding. And so, it was my pleasure to take your birthday spanking for you. Did you get to get an actual spanking on your own yet? I know you had family things, so you were going to celebrate at a different time. No, I probably won't. I'm not going to get around to that, but... Are you not into spanking? I'm sorry? Are you not into getting spanked? I do like it. The problem... Okay, here's the problem. Most women can't do it right. Most women don't do it hard enough. And to try to get a guy to do it is hard. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. It has a dungeon next to it. But it's like an hour away from me. Yeah, the further you go, the less people you'll know. Or maybe not. Maybe you'll get there and all of your town will have gone over to that next town. The problem is that the town is where a lot of my family lives. I don't want to accidentally hook up with somebody I love. Yeah, that would be bad. That would be very, very bad. I wouldn't be shy about asking somebody for a spanking. And you can always demonstrate how you like it done. That's what I do with other people. When I'm going to get spanked or somebody who hasn't spanked me before, I show them what I like on them. I see, but I'm not, I can't. Sure you can, baby. You've already started going to swing clubs. You've gotten out there. You've changed your lifestyle already. You're doing things that you want to do. You're having people watch you while you have sex. I don't want to hear the word can't come out of your mouth. I know you can. If you want to. You don't have to. But you can. You can do anything that you choose to. And as long as you're not hurting anybody, baby, I say go for it. Okay. That's just my opinion. And asking for it. Dr. Sam, what are your thoughts? I think you need to find yourself a good ass man. Somebody who actually enjoys it and who's willing to just do it. Because it sounds like you're waiting for someone to do it. But you're kind of hesitant about asking because you feel like maybe the guy's going to find it awkward. Trust me. Guys like smacking an ass. It's just part of it. And don't be afraid to ask for it. Especially if that's what you want. Now, I know a lot of women don't like it. And it's, you know, that's part of the boundary that gets established between the relationship. If a guy goes and tries to smack her on the ass and she doesn't like it, they usually make that pretty clear. But if you like it, ask for it. There's nothing wrong with it. You know, if it leaves a bruise and you don't like that, then you can ask for it a little lighter. If it's not hard enough, then have them take a bigger swing. There's nothing wrong with it. Actually, it's funny how I found out I like getting spanked. I found it out at work, believe it or not. Now, what profession are you in? I work in a hospital. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. But it was, no, there was this guy. We were friends. And he was a really outgoing guy, just a fun-loving guy. And one day, he walked by and he swatted me. I mean. Like, hard. Like, everybody heard it. Hard. And I started to be indignant, but then I realized that was. It felt really good. I kind of giggled and walked away. See, now that might be. Is this someone that you said, yeah, part of me says you might want to approach that, but the bigger part of me says don't shit where you eat. Yeah. Well, no, it's not. No, this was like a long time ago. He's married with kids now. It's not. Okay. We never were like. We were only ever just friends. No, but that kind of a smack on the ass is very indicative that he wanted you, baby. That was. You don't walk by and give somebody a swat like that that feels that good. Normally, a man. If my man walks up and we're in public, we're at a party or we're not at a swing party, but just if we're at a regular party or we're at the grocery store or even at home and we have friends over and he smacks my ass, I'll hit him back. I'll hit him back. There's for me. I only want it when we're in the bathroom. I don't want it. Like he's done it a couple of times at the bowling alley and I've hit him. Really? Yeah. I'd be in trouble because I'm one of those guys that I just like to randomly go up and I've actually gotten in trouble for it with one of my friends as well, where I would make the joke. I'd say good game and give them a quick slap on the ass. You know, that, you know, kind of like what guys do in the locker room kind of thing. One girl that is a really still very good friend of mine. I did that. And she was like, she looked around like, what the hell is that? And she comes after me. She starts smacking me over and over again. And I'm like, she's not a good girl. She obviously didn't like it, but I do. So part of me was like, should I slap her ass again so I could get some more action? I think she really did like it because she reacted so strongly. I love it in private. It's one of my favorite things. I love to have my ass smacked. I love to be, while I'm sucking your dick, my face smacked. I love to have my titties smacked. I love that whole man in charge. And I love the anticipation of waiting for that next, am I going to get it? And, you know, and I duck a little bit. And it just makes my heart beat fast. And I fucking love it. It's amazing. So you need to get out there and really find somebody who knows what they're doing, that you trust, and that you mainly, most importantly, communicate with. You need to let them know how hard, if you want them to cup and spank you from underneath, if you want it hard enough, if you want to sting, or if you want more of a thud, you know, there's different styles of spanking. And the only way you're going to know what you really like, and you're going to be able to relate to your partner, is by communicating with them. You need to talk about it. And you don't need to be shy, sweetheart. You're so beautiful. You're such a wonderful person and so beautiful that I hate to see you deny yourself pleasure. Oh, I don't really. I'm just shy about some things, but I don't really deny myself pleasure. That's a good thing. That's a very good thing. Yeah. And I wanted to say, too, you're definitely doing a service. Because, like I said, because of you, that's like your show, and you having people on in different lifestyles and different kinks and different whatever. It's how I found out about, like, swing clubs and how to get out there and, like, make what I want to happen happen. Well, did I tell you that I thought of you that I went to the green door? In Las Vegas? Yeah, I heard your story. I listened to the story. The show? I was like, oh, yeah. I sent you an email. I don't know if you got it. You know what? I've been having trouble with my email the last couple of days and my phone. I did the new iTunes upgrade, and it's fucked everything up. Yes. Yeah. My phone, I'll go to take a photo, and it sticks. I can't get on my Facebook on my phone. I can't get it. It's just driving. It's driving. It's driving. So, if you see me, I'll go to my phone. I'll go to my phone. I'll go to my phone. When did you send it? Within the last... I did it last week sometime. Yeah, I sent it when I got back home. I think it was either Saturday, Friday or Saturday. Okay, I'll have to... Can you resend it? Sure. Yeah, that would be great. That would be fantastic. I had one more suggestion. You guys were saying you could never spank somebody in the dark because you can't see them. I've done it. I've done it. I've done it. I've done it. Well, I was... A friend of mine, this one girl I was with for a brief time, we got this idea. We... At Walmart, they had... Especially this time of year, they have glow-in-the-dark panties. Oh. And so, we each bought a pair of those, and we chased each other around in the dark. I love it. Oh, Walmart, you said? Yeah. We're going to Walmart today on the way home. We're stopping... For glow-in-the-dark panties. For glow-in-the-dark panties. We're shooting Dillian Harper tomorrow for... Mine had like an owl with the eyes glowed in the dark, and I forget, hers had something that I... Glow-in-the-dark, but yeah, we chased each other around. That's my girl. That's my girl. It's always good to hear your voice, sweetheart. Thank you so much for calling in. Didn't we just shoot Dillian? Yeah. Okay. We did. Thank you, Owl Sweet. We love you, baby. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. We did just shoot Dillian. Okay. We're seeing her again. All right. Dillian, she does a... She's a quick shoot. Well, she does a lot of films, and so she's got a lot of lingerie, and she's always coming... She comes over with her stuff on a regular basis, but I thought it would be fun to throw in a pair of little glow-in-the-dark panties. Glow-in-the-dark. And I'll eat her pussy through them, of course, before that, so they get nice and wet, so they have the juices on it. Okay. There's a lot going on with this one. Well, yeah. Okay. I'm not just going to go to Walmart for glow-in-the-dark panties. I'm going to put them to good use. There you go. Yeah. Hmm. Because my man can find my ass in the dark. But I love... Some people can't find their own ass in the dark. That's true. That's true. Oh, gosh. I'm trying to think of the last time I had to find my ass. We've got a great show coming up for you today. We've got Dr. Sam, Dr. Tham, as I call him, in studio with me right now. You can follow him on Twitter. That's SamZ570. And we've got, not to be confused with Dr. Sam or Dr. Tham, we've got Sham, the artist, the director, the producer, coming in studio very shortly this afternoon. We're going to be talking about 50... What are they? 50 what? 50 best sex tips. 50 best sex tips. Now, some of these I agree with, some of them I don't. I don't think we'll get through 50 of them, but I think that some of them are really great sex tips and they'll be wonderful to share with our listeners. So don't go anywhere. We will be right back on Blame It On Ginger. In the meantime, bop on over to gingerlin.com. Bop on over to gingerlinauctions.com for your favorite porn stars used and dirty panties. We'll be right back here on Skid Row Studios.魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔 We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. it would be if I worked at McDonald's or if I was sucking dick for a living. Yeah. I'm still the same person with the same core values. I just prefer and enjoy sucking dick. Honey, look, if I could get a job sucking dick, sign me up. I mean, really. And they pay you for it. Oh, fine with me. I know. That sounds good to me. It's perfect. I have an Arab background, so my family's kind of conservative, you know, and with all this ISIS and everything that's going on now, it's like, you know, people talk to me about all that. What do you think about this terrorism and everything? And it's like, look, I might be Arabic, but I am not taking head. I'm giving it. All right. There you go. I'm not taking anyone's head. So you're doing a service now. I hope so. I mean, now that I heard about this research here, I want to try, you know, this fountain of youth that you're telling me about. I think you already have it. I have no idea how old you are, but your skin is flawless. Well, I'm wearing about three pounds of makeup. So, you know, and if I want to take this off, I got to stop by the hardware store and pick up a jackhammer just to get through the first. Layer. Okay. So, I mean, I hope so. When you put when you put that much makeup on, you know, I'm an I'm an artist. So I think everything looks better with a gallon of paint on it. And my face is no exception. I love your artwork. I absolutely love your artwork. We were looking at some of the your pieces on your website today, and I did not write it down. What is your website? All right. It's sham pop dot com. That's S.H.A.M. P.O.P. Dot com. So feel free to go on there and feel free to make a purchase because I love nothing more than people. You know, support the arts. That's right. Your portraits. They're amazing. It's very 80s pop. Yes. 80s pop. And that I was thinking what would be a really good thing for you to explore would be remember I mean, me back in the 80s, you said you were going to take my photo and do a portrait of me. But the 80s with the big hair. Oh, yeah. Big makeup. And the book. I could always I mean, I could always draw the big makeup and big hair on you if you want. You know, I like you like this. I think you're beautiful. Naturally. I love that. You know, no one's done me natural. I want to do that. Really? Yes. All right. Yeah. I'm kind of to be honest with you. I'm actually going to be saying, but, you know, I am a bit the glam thing for me. I mean, as far as doing portraits is concerned, I've done so many portraits of drag queens, so many portraits of glamorous women. I love them. Don't get me wrong. I would not trade that for the world. But I like to explore different things. I mean, like in the past couple of years, I've been branching out and trying to do nature stuff, you know, because sometimes. I don't know. I don't have an art show. Pop nature? Yeah. With the colors? Well, you know, like, like trees and birds and horses and shit like that. Because honestly, when I have my art shows, if you see my art, I mean, I've done like Rihanna's battered face. I've done, you know, Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty as a drag queen and things like that. That's the kind of stuff I do. Miley Cyrus twerking on Mickey Mouse. But when someone wants to hang something in their living room, they'd rather have a horse, a bird or, you know what I mean? And I got it. I got bills to pay. So I got it. You know, I got to keep my custom. So, I mean, I've been trying new things, you know? And how are your birds and your horses and your nature things? Well, I did an owl. Everybody loves owls. We can't get enough. I'm going to do a skateboarding design for some, a company called Moss Skateboards. This kid named Orlando. I just love this guy. He's really cool. He lives in Palm Springs and he approached me about doing, you know, designs for skateboards. So I. Oh, there's your owl. There it is. Oh, look at that. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, I love it. Thank you. That is fabulous. And that came from my, you know, magic. See, Andy Warhol did Marilyn Monroe, of course. He's so famous for that. And everybody compares me to Andy Warhol. I mean, I'm really. More like the honey boo boo child of the art world. Oh, wow. I'm not exactly hanging in the loop. Whoa. But since he did it, you know, there's the Rihanna. That Rihanna one. That was the Rihanna, right. That one's been on E! Entertainment, NBC News. It's my most famous piece. I don't think I'd have a career if it wasn't for that piece. It took me about half an hour to draw it. Really? Yes. And I never thought. I was hanging it at World of Wonder Art Gallery. World of Wonder is a production company. They do RuPaul's Drag Race. They do all kinds of things. And they have been so supportive of my art. And they have a space next to their production company that they operate as a gallery. So they've given me a few shows. And when I hung that particular piece, it was in a group show that we were doing. And I never thought it would. You know, a reporter named Mark Malkin came from E! Entertainment. Right. And that's all he focused on and wrote about. And it just. Exploded. And then he asked me the reason that I drew that portrait. And I don't like to be a liar. I'm not going to sit here and say it means anger slash wisdom or some deep. You know, it's not. It was in the news. That's why I draw it. I said, you know, when I looked at the photo, I saw it everywhere blown, you know, on covers of magazines and everything. Well, why not hang it? This is Rihanna when she was beaten up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For those of you that don't know. Who was that? Chris Brown. Sexy boyfriend, Chris Brown. I mean, I'm sorry. I would. I would put up with the abuse. I mean, that's just me. With those tattoos. And he's, you know, six feet tall, hot chocolate. He can give me a call. As long as it's consensual and you're not and you're totally cool with it. Then if it doesn't disturb you, that's not diagnosable, dude. If it's Chris Brown, I'm cool with it. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you that. Absolutely. Jenny, can you get Chris Brown, please, in the studio? Yeah. Make that phone call. Let's see if we can get him in here. Let's just record the next one in the bedroom. I mean, let's go right there. I mean, I've got a blanket we put down. We've got all the props that you've got. Have you done sex in this thing? On the hair? You have? Oh. Yesterday, I had three hot dogs in my coochie. No way. I did. Oh, the best wieners in town. Are you serious? Yes. Oh, my God. Scooby's hot dogs. I love him. Scooby. He's right next door to the gallery. Yeah, is he? Yes. When I was leaving the gallery yesterday, because I was grabbing pieces. It's a take to fashion week. I saw him. He said, I'm going on Ginger's radio show. No way. Yeah. What are the odds? Yeah, it was such a coincidence. You know what I mean? It was so crazy. But yeah, that's so funny. So you didn't. Don't tell me you really did that. Did you? No, I really did. Wow. Were they soy hot dogs or beef? They were beef. Okay. They were all beef. I like the real thing, too. I do. I don't want the fake. I don't want the fake. Me, too. Honey, I have an appetite. I don't want a Scooby snack. I want, you know. This is a big, fat, beefy dog. That's what we like. I mean, the wiener itself is long. I love that. Bigger, longer than the bun. Oh, my God. I'm sweating. The bun is a Hawaiian, King's Hawaiian bread that's grilled. Nice. I love that. That bread is so good. I could live on that stuff. I sploshed in it. Do you know what splashing is? I don't know what that is. Splashing is a sexual fetish that involves food in one way or another. Some people sit in it. Some people throw it at each other. Some people, like me, I don't know if it's considered splashing when I do it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. The buns, what I did was I laid them into a baby pool, and I just wiggled my ass onto them, and so I felt the bread squish, and I felt it go between my pussy lips and my legs. Oh, I love that. It felt so good. And then I laid back further, raised my legs up in the air, and we took three of these hot dogs. They're probably a good eight, if not nine inches long. Wow. They're big dogs. Wow. They're big wieners. And Vanessa Blue just put those puppies in there. I got to ask you a question. Yes. So how long have you been with your boyfriend? A little over six years. So is that difficult for him, you being a performer in the adult industry? Does that cause any jealousy or any, I mean, I'm just curious, you know what I mean? Because I would get kind of jealous if I had a, you know what I mean, if I had a boyfriend. Oh, I couldn't deal with it, and I'm not performing live anymore. The only performances that I do are here in the studio, and I don't have, I have not had another dick in me since I've been with my man. Wow. So, and that is so unlike me. Well, how amazing. I've always been. I've been a bit of the opposite. I mean, let me tell you, you know what I mean? Oh, I was the biggest slut around forever. Oh, yeah? I was just the sluttiest. I've never been in war. Well, what's wrong with that? Nothing. See, I don't think there's anything. Oh, no. I got, I am so lucky I got all my good slut days in. I had the best time ever. Good for you, honey. We didn't write that book about you need to get married and pair up and have a, you know, white picket fence. No, I didn't write that rule. I'm not going to follow it. No. No, that's not my lifestyle. But I was really lucky to finally find the right man. Yeah. Yeah. And what I find is there are basically two types of men that go, that are attracted to porn stars. The ones that meet you, they fall for the Ginger Lynn. Right. The fantasy. The fantasy Ginger Lynn. And then they get to know Ginger Allen. And Ginger Allen, Ginger Lynn's just my sexual part of me. It's not a whole other person. It's not something weird. Honey, I understand. This is how I am. I mean, when this makeup comes off, I look like a lumberjack. There you go. Seriously. Seriously. So I have a, I totally understand. I understand that. But, you know, we are entertainers and what we do is show business. So, you know, people have a hard time separating, I think, that. And in my own life until I was- Especially. Especially. Yeah. Yeah. I've been with lesbian lovers that are fine with it. They're fine. Yeah. No problems with me filming. Yeah. Well, I think also, you know, girls are more apt to listen and to understand things. And instead, men just kind of get hot tempered about things without really, you know, being Yeah. Yeah. Really like understanding it. They don't think things through. My mom always said men's brains are like, women's brains are like the freeway in Los Angeles. Everything going, you know, in a million different directions. Men is a two-way road. Yeah. And they're like Model T Fords going down. Or one-way road. And we don't like to deviate from that road. You know what I mean? No. No. That throws you way off. At the end of it all, I'm a man. And so if I ever, I always say, because I always, all these, you know, girlfriends who tell me about their man problems and stuff. And they, they like my perspective. Because I can relate, you know, as a gay man. I mean, I don't want to shock you or anything, but I'm gay. What? What? Are you serious? Yeah. I don't want to. I would have. Yeah. You know. Don't get scared. I remember. Well, we're even more happy to have you on the show than welcome again. Oh, I love it. Thanks for me. This changes everything. We need a new format, Jenny. You need to plug in that new format. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Call the Westboro Baptist Church and shop online, you know. I'd like to visit that place. So, my boyfriend. He went there. Does not get jealous. He doesn't. He is. Like I said, there are two categories. There's the man, the men that fall in love with Ginger Lynn or who fall for Ginger Lynn, fall in love with Ginger Allen, want me to change my name. And I call it the, the knight in shining armor complex. They think they're going to like say, like change. They're going to, you know, those days are behind you. I'm going to save you. Or the other extreme. And these are the only two with the exception of my boyfriend now that I've ever met. The other one is the guy who's totally into Ginger Lynn and wants you to be that slut all the time. Really? Yes. And there's very little in between. To find a man that's secure enough to deal with. I'm very recognizable. I get recognized anytime we're in a public place. I'm going to get recognized. I believe that. Yeah. And I rarely wear, I wear barely any makeup, if any at all. Yeah. And you, you've crossed over into mainstream stuff. Like I know you've done a lot of, you know, things that are not just adult films. I mean, you had as, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you go out with George Clooney? For about six months. Yes. Oh boy. Oh, that list goes on. So the sex goddess of the world got with the hottest man in the world. I mean, I can't, that, there just doesn't get any hotter than that. It was pretty fucking hot. I believe that. It was pretty hot. I believe that. Except for the pig. What does that mean? He's got a pet pig. He does? Or he did at the time. I've always been curious about having a pet pig. Are they good pets? Um, they, he ate everything in my purse. No. Did he really? And you went out with the biggest party animal ever, right? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Oh, God, yes. Yeah. I bet you. And will I ever live that way? That's one of those things that I don't think I will ever live down. I believe it. And his family, I remember when they, his attorneys and his lawyers and his, uh, his agents and managers and family members were saying, she's going to ruin your career. She's going to ruin your career. Oh, wow. Really? I don't think you can ruin his career anymore. I mean. I don't think that his career is ruinable. This man. Yeah, it's not. He's like Teflon. Teflon is indestructible. And he likes to party. I mean, he looks like the kind of guy, if you show him a tennis racket, he's going to say, which end are we going to use? You know what I mean? He's pretty. He seems like that kind of guy. I mean, he's crazy. You know? And what about Billy Idol? Oh, my God. He's. What do you like? Like, you're following me around? Well, honey, what do you think? I did my research. I guess you did. I did my research before I came on here. All right? And here, listen, your name anyway. And when he told me, he told me about, you know, coming on the show, I was so excited. I really, I love you. I do. I do. I do. I do. I know exactly who you are before. Well, I love you now. Long before I did the research. I love you now. Thank you. I've seen your artwork and loved your work. I'm so glad we met. I am thrilled to hear that. And I promise you, next time I come, I'm going to have a portrait for you. Oh, thank you. I am. I'm going to take your picture while I'm here. Okay. And I'm going to do your portrait. I would be, I would be absolutely honored. All right. So back to Billy Idol. If you had to pick a number. If you had to pick a number between six and 12, how would you describe Billy? I'm guessing eight. That's a good question. As far as. I'm guessing seven and a half, eight. Okay. Okay. Billy's, Billy's an odd one here because we're going to give him, we're going to give him an eight in size. Okay. That sounds good. We're going to give him a 12 in performance. Oh boy. Now I'm sweating. I need to take my jacket off. This is, wow. He's very kinky. Boosh. Very kinky. Very dirty. Very fun. Very naughty. I was just saying. He's the bad boy that you would love. That is my type. He's the bad boy. That's my exact type. Yeah. That's my exact. He would be perfect for you. Perfect. And he just gets hotter. Jenny, get Billy Idol please. Write that down. Start booking guests. Oh boy. She's sitting back there watching the show and listening in and doing her job. I need you to book guests, damn it. She's going to be playing matchmaker in a second for this gay clown. Not me. But yeah, well, I mean, you know, I, I, I think I've, I've had a couple, I've never had a relationship with a big male celebrity, but I've had a couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. A couple. exceptions that's not always you know a hard and fast rule but um no but I you know a lot of the guys that like me because you know I'm not really like a typical gay guy you know like you're a really cute gay boy you know how it is gay guys are usually not into the feminine you know thing with the makeup so the guys that I attract tend to be closet case like you know what I mean but live a heterosexual life but are attracted on some level to you know the feminine look and obviously I don't have you know I don't have any melons I've got pancakes and sausage so I don't right you know I mean I have you know I don't serve what they want in their kitchen but they you know they are they're into it and so any you know of those famous guys I've been with if I was to name names uh-oh I could make some problems and I'm not trying to do that you know I respect people's right privacy and their discretion I really do good for you I mean I'm not that I'm not that girl you know I mean I'm just I love you even more now thank you honey it's just getting better and better I love you too having met you you're so down to earth and cool you're really fun I didn't know what to expect I thought you'd be followed by a bunch of managers and you know how it is in Hollywood so I thought you know I'm gonna have to get through all the managers and stuff before I even meet her you know but here you are no I'm right here down to earth I love that and I think that you and I have something in common where my down-to-earthness that's a word down-to-earth yes it is now we're inventing words here today uh we're both from Illinois I read that you're from Peoria where are you from I'm from Rockford no way yes great yes I am I I have such an affinity for people from the Midwest because we have we are just a different breed if you know the people in California there's no such thing where I'm from in flakiness and not working hard I mean you got to work hard where I'm from you got to have those core values and morals that you don't find somehow on the west coast it's you know unless you're one of us exactly but the people that are from here that I've met I haven't met I shouldn't say that most people are from the Midwest I'm from the Midwest I'm from the Midwest I'm from the Midwest but the people that I meet that live here are very full of themselves and they have an agenda everyone has an agenda everyone who comes to LA comes there for their own selfish you know thing like they want to be actor or they want to be photographer whatever they want to be and that's great and all but they'll they'll sell their mother's soul to you know get that it's crazy they have no boundaries you know no work ethic no boundaries no no healthy orders nothing and healthy boundaries yeah yeah it's insane except for us yes and and we are probably considered the outcasts that's what I was going to say and here society you know labels us like we're the devil worshippers you know just because we like to have a good time you know what I mean just kidding I'll read that tomorrow no I didn't interview recently that somebody somebody called me up and said George Clooney's getting married and we would like to get will well wishes from his former girlfriends and and and people that he's known over the years. And so I'm like, oh, well, of course I'll do the interview. And long story short, because too many other things happened in between, the front page was Clooney caught in cheating scandal. And it was a non-story. It was 30 years ago. During the interview, I found out that he was married when we were together. Oh my goodness. You didn't know that when you guys were together? No, I did not. Well, but you know what? They must've been separated because I was at the house a lot and there was no femininity and there are no signs of a woman whatsoever. No female clothes, no girls closet. Was she an actress? Yes. Okay, well, that's how that Hollywood stuff is. Who's Talia Shire? One of the- Well, there you go. Yeah. You know, their publicist set it up and who knows what the reality is. I don't mean to shatter anyone's dreams and hopes, but the truth is most of these celebrity relationships are, you know, they're pre-packaged. I gotta ask you, is that weed? No, this is not. Okay, because I like weed. I'm a big proponent of medical marijuana. I've had a prescription for a long time and I thought this was gonna stay passive. No, this one's just purple. That LA traffic makes you, you need more than weed to deal with that. We'll calm you down in a minute here. Oh, what was that? What was that traffic? What is going on with this LA? It's like we drive here every single day and I come from Woodland Hills and I know you came from Palm Springs. Oh, yeah. Which was a huge trek and I want to thank you so much for that. We're gonna talk about all kinds of sexy things in a few minutes right now. We have to take a short, quick break. Thank you for listening. We'll be right back. Unblame It on Ginger. Unblame It on Ginger. Unblame It on Ginger. Unblame It on Ginger. Unblame It on Ginger. Unblame It on Ginger. Unblame It on Ginger. Unblame It on Ginger. Unblame It on Ginger. break down. You're going to get deep inside Nina Hartley. Nina's going to go over her BDSM checklist where she's going to tell you just how naughty to be, how to do it right, how not to get hurt, and how to make your lover beg for it. She's going to make me beg for it in her little game called Forced Orgasms. And did you know, Nina's going to let you know anything and everything that you didn't know about sex and were afraid to ask. That's Mountain Mondays with Ginger Lynn and Nina Hartley. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome back to Blaming on Ginger, taking you to kind of a slow and sexy place. We're switching gears here today. Well, right now today, we're going back to sex. I am Ginger Lynn with our special guest host. Dr. Sam. Dr. Sam. Are you sure?魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔魔 You questioned yourself. Dr. Tham. Dr. Tham. I was so nervous when Sham, I knew you were coming on today because I always, when I was a little girl, I had a lisp. So when I say Dr. Sam, it reminds me of when I was little and I would say Dr. Tham. So I call him Dr. Tham and then Sham is coming in and Dr. Sam is in. So I thought I was going to be stuttering all day long. Well, that's a tongue twister. That's a mouthful, right? So Dr. Tham. So we've got Sham and Dr. Tham and the beautiful Ginger. And Stevie! Yes, the lovely Stevie. Stevie is the one that came to my art show and brought me here to meet you. So I really want to thank you for that, Stevie. Thank you so much. We met. I had seen one, World of Wonder. The first time actually that I went into World of Wonder was a Vivid show. And I was like, what is this? Really? I couldn't figure it out. You know, World of Wonder did the documentary Inside Deep Throat. Well, I liked them. I liked them up until they did the Vivid show. Oh, that was a good one. Oh, no. Then it was like, there was nothing there because I kept going, wait, what is there? I was like, where's Ginger? I think there was like one picture from one of your movies. And I was like, okay. I went, all right. There would be no fucking Vivid without Ginger Lynn. But then they were gone. My little pimpin' Donna comes out in this one. That's the truth. Well, you know what? This is the one that really pisses me the fuck off. Hey, that, any, show business. Listen, show business is a tough fucking business. Not bitter at all. The adult industry, I'm sure, is no different. It's no different than any other show business. And there's always sharks in the game. And that's, you know, that's what happens. And unfortunately, nice people like us end up getting eaten alive. That's the truth. Well, you know what happens, though, is, well, maybe they weren't nice in the first place. But, you know, there's some people that I know that were, that I helped, I helped roll fucking pennies. I went on tour and went from location to location and shared a bedroom with somebody and his girlfriend, you know, so that we could go to distributors. And I could sign posters. So people would sell the vivid movies. And I saw somebody that was like us turn into a different type of person. Well, yeah. And we all evolve. When there's money. We all change. We all grow. But I tell you what, when money becomes your higher power, your lover, your everything. And fame. Both the money and the fame. It's like a drug to people. And some people just can't handle it, you know? I've made money over the years. I've had fame over the years. And I would never treat anybody differently. Where I come from, if you're moving, everybody that you meet. Yeah. That you know is going to show up with their truck. Yeah. And then they're going to stay and build you a shed in the back when they're done. Oh, hell yeah. That's the difference. That's the difference. Out here, you call somebody and you're moving. And nobody's home. Yeah, exactly. Their phone is suddenly off. Wait, you're moving this weekend. Yeah. Wait a minute. They just clicked me on. They just ignored my call. I knew it. Well, that's, you know, I'm used to it now, you know, living in this L.A. I mean, I lived in L.A. for 10 years. I just, you know, but I like Palm Springs because people are like that. People in Palm Springs are like the Midwest. Are they? Oh, yes. I go to the grocery store. I see the same beautiful faces every day. I say hello. I know their names. I know everybody there. You know, it's a small community and people look out for each other. Oh, I love that. Yeah, you'll have to come sometime. I have a house there. You please come and be my guest. Really? Yeah, of course. Can I bring my boyfriend? Of course. Yes. I would love to come and visit. Of course. Seriously. Please do. We're always looking for a weekend getaway. Our house is on the market. And so we have to be out of the house four to five hours on Saturday and Sunday every weekend. Well, honey. You're. We plan. You guys are selling your house here? Yes. Well, let me tell you that I. The reason I live in Palm Springs is because I bought my house there as a foreclosure in 2010 when the market. Yeah. Yeah. So I in the beginning when I did it, everyone said, you're so stupid to leave Hollywood. You're never going to be able to come back. You're going to be, you know. It's an hour and a half away. It is an hour and a half way into paradise. I that when I'm off of work here, I can't wait to get on the first freeway exit back there. Let me tell you. It is peaceful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Gorgeous. The mountains that, you know, the scenery is just incredible. And is it all old people? No, that's a big misconception. That is a very big misconception about Palm Springs. It's actually a lot of young people. I happen to be the oldest in my peer group because a lot of the kids I hang out with actually grew up there because what happened is a lot of these, you know, old people or whatever that started out in Palm Springs had children and their children had children. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. that. You know what I mean? Oh, see, that's fantastic. I, in my head, I had this, this, this scenario where everyone was, that's where they moved to retire. They went off to Palm Springs. It ain't God's little waiting room. That's, that's not a true misconception. You know, that's, that's, that's not true. You know what I mean? And it's, it's not all, uh, it's not all gay either, because trust me, if it was, I wouldn't get laid. Okay. I'm totally the kind of guys that like me. It's the military guy. It's the Marines that come down to visit me. Okay. From the 29th. Me too. Let me tell you, one of them came over after active duty, came over in the uniform. He said, is that okay? Usually you have to pay extra for that. Thank you. Yeah. Oh goodness. Yeah. Well, we're going to talk about 50. We have 50 great sex tips. Allegedly. Allegedly. We'll find out if they are or not. Stevie, do you have any sex tips or Dr. Sam? Do you have any? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Do you have any sex tips for us? Do it. Do it. Do it well. Study up on it. Pay attention for guys out there. Pay attention to, uh, tips from lesbians. They know what they're talking about when, about when, you know, how to go down on a girl, how to actually please a girl for guys out there, uh, women out there trying to please a guy. Honestly, just talk to a gay man. Yeah. Talk to Stevie or me right there. We know how to suck. We've got two experts right here. I've been told that I suck dick like a gay guy and I eat pussy like a lesbian. Honey, that's, those are the highest compliments. That's what I've been told. And I, I take that to heart. Dr. Sam, I have a question for you. All right. Now, is it true that sex is good for longevity? I've heard that you live a longer, healthier life and looking at this beautiful ginger over here, I think there's something to it. Oh, absolutely. I would say so because a lot of times people who have happy sex lives tend to lead less stressful lives. And what's the biggest killer out there? Stress. Really? It leads to so many different health problems, heart problems, heart disease, hypertension, so many other problems that come about with it that if you have a happy sex life, that's one less thing you're worrying about. Think of all the people out there who don't have great sex lives and how much energy and attention and how much stress and how much drama they put around just trying to pursue sex. Yeah. So right there, if you have a happy sex life, you've just taken, you've eliminated so much stress. You've taken so much stress out of your life, plus the physical activity of it, the connection with somebody else, that right there, that, you know, you have somebody else that you want to live longer for. So yeah. I would agree. I think people who don't have sex are angry people. Like, I think like George Bush and Hitler didn't get laid. I mean, I think so. I think, you know, someone was missing in the bedroom. And look how happy I am. Do you think I have sex? Honey, you're glowing. You're glowing with happiness. And you really do look a good, you know, decade and a half. I think that Wikipedia is a fucking liar. As soon as I walked in, you're not even wearing makeup. Yeah. No, you look great. You do. Thank you. Thank you. Grunts are better than nothing. It says, I forgot one here. So give longer and more enthusiastic oral sex if you give her verbal response. You know what? I'm going to agree with that one. I know that if I'm giving you head, I want to hear a little moan. I want to hear you. I want that. I want some sort of a voice recognition. I want to know, that you, it feels good. I want to hear it. It makes me much more enthusiastic about sucking dick. And the more sounds you make, the better I get at it and the more into it I get. Because when I give you head, I want to worship your entire cock. And I'm going to, and your balls and your taint and your asshole and the whole package and your skin around it and your belly. I'm going to claw at it. I'm going to bite on your sides. I'm going to, I'm going to take care of the entire area. But if I don't get any, if your dick is hard, that's awesome. You know, that's awesome. Well, I should have. With all that going on. I'm telling you, right? Yeah. I mean, I don't miss anything on there, but if I don't hear that, that verbal acknowledgement, I, I, I tend to, I'll slow down a little bit. I won't be, I'll be, I'll just be much more enthusiastic if I hear it. It's reassuring. Basically, it kind of gives you that, okay, this guy's enjoying it. I'm doing the right thing. Keep going with it. I'm usually in public, so I have to be. I'm like, oh, I'm going to throw him out of here. Get caught and thrown in jail. Well, not at the library. Not at the library. Depends on where you're doing it. I didn't know that the library was a really popular place to cruise. Oh, yeah. But you can hang out there. Anywhere. Nobody's suspicious. And then, boom, right there at the library. And it's a great way to kind of get into common interest. Well, you're probably going to find a smart guy. Well, yeah. First off, yeah. You're probably going to find someone educated. Right. I mean, that's a great way to get into common interest. Well, you're probably going to find a smart guy. Well, yeah. First off, yeah. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. That's where I should be looking instead of, you know, the parolee jail over here. I found the parolee jail. Be really nice. I spent some time at MDC LA. I was in federal Maine downtown. Oh, you went? I was there, yes. What happened? Oh, it was just a fucking nightmare. I refused to testify against 64 adult film producers on Tracy Lord's behalf, the little cunt. I hope her tits rot and fall off. I'll tell you how I really feel later. I'll tell you how I really feel later. But I refused to testify against these producers, and I was told, you have to go before the grand jury. They said, if you don't, we're going to make your life very difficult. First, the DA came in, then the U.S. attorney came in. Oh, my gosh. So I went before the grand jury, and I have a really bad memory. I just do. Can't remember shit. Me too. Don't know. So they showed me photos and people, and I just don't remember. I just didn't remember. So anyway, five years later, there's a knock on my door. And I'm being charged with willfully subscribing to a false tax return over $2,087.04. They throw people in jail over that? No. No, I got probation, but they had drug testing, and I accidentally went to, I was allowed to go to Cannes for the film festival. And then I ran into Charlie Sheen and accidentally flew off to Vienna. I love that. I happened to be engaged to someone at the time in the press. Saw the ring, and they saw me with Charlie, and it became a big deal. My probation officer saw it, and I wasn't supposed to be in Vienna. So when I got back, they drug tested me, and I didn't pass the drug test. Oh, dear. And then, so you, because you were on probation, you didn't pass the test they put you in. I went straight to MDC. So how long were you there? I did four months and 17 days. Only 17 days at MDC LA. MDC LA was hard fucking core. I learned how to mix and fix heroin. I learned how to tie somebody off. I learned to take a Coke can, cut off the bottom part. I learned how to heat that hair, melt that. I mean, I learned the whole thing. I learned how to light a cigarette taking a pencil and a pair of toenail clippers and sticking it into a light socket. Oh, my goodness. I learned some valuable lessons. I didn't watch it happen. Not exactly what you learned in the Girl Scouts, but, you know. No, no. It was a different Girl Scout. There was a girl that was. Different skill set. And you turned this into a shank. You know what I did use as a shank? I did make one. I used a pencil. Was it dangerous? Were you scared? Fuck yeah. Yeah, I believe it. I was in with my mom. Weapons dealers and drug dealers. Oh, dear. And there was the black section. There was the Colombian section. That's what I hear. It's very racially separated. There were two white girls, me and one other girl. That was it. And my Sally was a junkie. So, if she got caught shooting up, I was going to the hole. So, I would tie her off. I would. And she'd get like. We were in what they call a drop cell. Drop. And a drop cell is one that has a vent in it. Like, I don't see any vents around this room. Like, there's one in the ceiling here. But a drop cell in prison, or at least MDCLA, is in the wall. And so, that means that your vent goes through to other floors. Not all of them go all the way through. Ours, in particular, did. So, you could take. What you did was they tied off sheets. And each sheet knot was one floor down. And so, however, if you wanted chocolate, you went down to, you know, floor two. If you wanted heroin, you got it from floor six. Wow. Amazing. Amazing. And so, there were people in and out of my cell all day long. It's its own world. It's like its own world. It's its own world. And I was only there for 17 days. Then they sent me off for four months to Gateway CCC, which is right around the corner. That's in Echo Park. Another nice little place. Now, this is a halfway house that's meant for people that are getting out of prison, that have done a long time, and they're readjusting into society. So, if you have a job, you're allowed to leave there during the day. I would leave there during the day. And the irony here is I went on an audition one day. And my bodyguard picked me up. He picked me up and drove me to the studio. And it was for a new series. And I went in and I walk in the door and fucking Tracy Lourdes is sitting there. I'm in prison at the time because of her. And there she sits in the same room. Oh my goodness. In the same room. What are the odds of that? So, I walk up to the counter. I grab the script. I look at it and there's, I'm shaking. I just want to, I'm going, what do I do? What do I do? I do. And so, I read through my sides and I put them down and I call my agent and said, I'm not doing this. It says I have to lick a lollipop. Or my dialogue is, you know, I want to lick your lollipop. I'm not doing it. And he, and I walked outside. And he says, get your ass back in there. Get the job. Then you turn it down. So, I go back in. Yeah, because then they'll give you more money. I go in and Tracy's not there anymore. So, I'm like, okay, fine. She's in meeting with them. I go in. I have my audition. They asked me to wait. I wait. They call me back. They tell me that I'm on hold for two weeks. Turns out it was NYPD Blue. It was the second episode. Third episode of the show. Yeah. Yeah. The very first season. It was nominated for five Emmys. It won three. And I was the guest star. So, fuck you, Tracy Lourdes. I love that. I love that. No, I read that on Wikipedia when I was reading. I think they said something about your stint on there. Because that, you know. Yeah, but the way I tried to fix it. No, they said that I went to prison for tax evasion. No, I didn't. No, I went to prison because I did drugs. And I fucked up. Oh, well. Honey. I want to make that perfectly clear. And you partied with Charlie Sheen. So, I think that's a good thing. That's a crime. I mean, in this country, that's, you know, that's probably. They probably saw all the media and the stuff behind that and made assumptions. I mean, I think sometimes that's what happens with high profile celebrity cases. When you end up, you know, in the spotlight and then in trouble. A lot of times, I think the judges look to the papers and the tabloids. Oh, sure they do. You know, as they're, you know, instead of like being impartial and, you know. Oh, absolutely. And it was easy to make an example out of me. Yeah. And you get on the radar when you. Throw a couch out of a hotel window. What? Onto a car. Who did that? You just threw a couch onto. I didn't throw the couch. Oh. I was there. Okay. So, yeah. I can't imagine you picking up a couch by yourself there. Incredible Hulk style. Yes. I threw sofas off at the top of the Plaza Hotel. No. Why didn't they have the reality shows going then? I mean, there were no reality shows. That's something I would have wanted to watch. I think that's why so much great awesome stuff. You're going to be painting a really cool picture with all these. Yeah. Between all these stories. I mean, this is what this is. I'm getting all kinds of paintings in my head right now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, here's one. You couldn't hang it on the wall, though. I was going to say that night that that three nights combined at the plaza, the Century Plaza Hotel. At one point, what there was a very famous act. Nicolas Cage was there and his girlfriend had evidently or. Maybe, maybe not. Allegedly slept with a black man and got pregnant by him. Oh, boy. And so his friends, Charlie and a bunch of other friends, thought it would be really fun to make make a joke out of it. So they brought this giant big black dildo with these giant balls. Into the party and they set it down in the middle. So when Nick walked in, he saw it. He went ballistic and ended up just the guys. It kept everything kept escalating and escalating. But at one point we ordered up a dozen cans of whipped cream. Because we like whipped cream. Were you able to get the whipped cream out of the cans? Well, I can't get the whipped cream out. No, no. There was just air in there. Oh, no. It made me talk funny. That's so funny. Crackers or something. I don't know what they call those. Whippets. No, you can't get the whipped cream out after the whippet comes. No. Yeah, nitrous. I don't think or two about that. Yeah. Yeah. They did. Oh, the elevator the other day. They glued it. They wouldn't let us in. Yeah. Oh, wow. So the image that I had in my mind for a painting was what we did was we had the whipped cream sent up and then the cans were worthless. There was you couldn't get the whipped cream out after you got the air. So we lined them up in a nine in a shape like when you go to the bowling alley, like a nine pin. And we took the balls off of the big cock. I mean, I love that. And the sofa. I don't know. I don't really know how in the way or something. It was just boys. You know, there were there were two parties going on. There was a chic that had a party on one side of the hotel. We had a party on the other. And somehow everybody was out doing everybody else. And so somebody accidentally threw a sofa over the balcony and it landed on a car down below. And it wasn't it wasn't pretty. That doesn't sound like an accident. Accidentally. I mean, it's probably pretty deliberate. I saw nothing. I just. I was. In those situations. That's how it has to be. Just. Yeah. Temporary blindness. You know. But yeah, I know. Honey, you've lived a really fun life. I think you should write a book. I mean, everybody. You know what? I've got 37 chapters written, but I have an 18 year old son. And growing up as Ginger Lynn's son is not the same as growing up as a porn star that maybe is famous today. Yeah. Or because there really isn't. There's never going to be another Jenna Jameson. There's never going to be another Ginger Lynn. There's not. There's not. There's not. You guys are icons. You know what I mean? And it's not only that there's too many. It's also that the media has changed. Everything has changed. And back in your day, you know, when you were at the top of your game, the media was different. You know what I mean? And now it's like these girls that are coming up now. There's just so much media. I mean, somebody can make a porno on their cell phone now. You know what I mean? Exactly. Whereas before the technology wasn't so, you know, advanced. I shot my first movie on eight millimeter. Yeah. But see, I think, I think. Did you really know you were going to come on? No, I swore to God. Really? Oh, wow. No way. No way. That's a film. Yeah. Wow. Well, no. Tiny film. I mean, I think. The kind your grandpa has in the basement. I don't remember people the way I, you know, like you, as soon as I saw you, I remember you. You know what I mean? Like you have a iconic, like, you know, presence about you. And I think, I think the same with Jenna. You know, I've given Jenna a portrait a long time ago in 2004 when she wrote her book. I bet it's fabulous. I don't. I really want to know why you haven't written a book. I think you've got, just sitting here talking to you, I'm engaged. I would read that book from cover to cover. I read Jenna's book. It was, it was brilliant. I need to wait until my son is out of college because right now. Oh, right. Right now he's still in high school. He sounds very well adjusted. He's going to college. I mean. Oh, he will. Yeah. My dad's, my dad's a PhD. I didn't go to college. You know what I mean? And you're, you're, you know, you're, you, you're a porn star and your son's going to college. That's awesome. Well, I sent him. You know what? I, I'm, I'm very proud of my son. Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. But I sent him to an all boys Catholic school. Oh, wow. And as soon as one person said his mom is, and his dad is, it was just, you know, people drawing penises on his backpack, you know, that's hard. Your mom's a cocksucker. Yeah. Yeah. So I think if I put my book out now, it would be, it would be cruel to my son. I want to give him every opportunity that I possibly can. And it's already hard enough with just being me. I'll tell you this though. I've never met your son. But I know he loves his mom. No matter, you know what I mean? Like no matter what you do, his love for you will always be. And I think that, you know, he would rather that you do what's right for you. You know what I mean? That's, that's just the truth. Without even knowing your son, I can feel that in my heart. I, I knew Pam Anderson. Right. And she would tell me about her kids. Like we'd be out partying at the club and then she'd be like, I have to be at home the next morning because I have to take my son to soccer practice at seven in the morning. And I thought, what a fabulous. Mom, you know what I mean? Right. And she tells me, no, the boys get a lot of shit at school, especially because of her sex tape and all that stuff. Sure. And I just thought that, you know, that, that does have to be really hard on a kid. But I think at the end of the day, if you're a good parent, it supersedes anything because, you know, the, what you provide, the love you provide for your son and the home you provide and, you know, what you've given him to bring him to where he is today, especially as an adult, he probably has more appreciation. Than other kids, because he doesn't, you know what I mean? You would think so. Little fucker. He doesn't. Well, he's 18. I mean, at 18, we were all crazy, right? Weren't you crazy at 18? Oh my God. I was so grateful I had a boy. Can I, I cannot imagine having a girl, much less my daughter at 18. No, one of us would be going down. I got my hands on my hips. I'm all like all ready to fight. That's the Jenna. I did. Yeah. Oh, that's fabulous. Thank you. Yes. I was really happy to give it to her, you know, and she, she was so sweet about it. She, she was, um, it was right when she did her book, you know, and I, I read her book. I thought it was really, really a great book. I thought it was very honest and it was for someone like me that, you know, hasn't, uh, you know, been in porn or anything, but has always been curious because everybody is, you know what I mean? Everybody wants to know, you know, what the reality is. Cause like you said, you present this fantasy, but then there's a whole nother side to your life. And, you know, the audience is curious to know what the reality and the real situation is. And having read her book, it gave me a much better understanding that it's not so glamorous. She said, um, in the book, you know, in the, in the beginning when she was first starting out, all the struggles that she had, you know, leaving her home and, um, you know, being so young and having no money and with drugs, you know, she's very candid in her book about her addictions. And, you know, that to me was, um. It was really eyeopening and really, uh, you know, I really appreciated that candor. So did you like her better after you read the book? Absolutely. Absolutely. I did. I think, I think because she was, um, so honest, it, it, it made me certainly have a respect for her. You know what I mean? I always did because like I said, I, I, I have a strong respect for anybody in, in adult entertainment because I, I do think that you have to have a very thick skin to be in this business because of the way society is. I mean, you know, it's. A thick skin or, or, uh, kind of like leathery, not leathery skin, but what's it called? Tough one. Like, right? No, no. I mean, um, like, like, like rubber or, or latex, something that will, that will, you just let everything roll off. Like duck feathers. Yeah. Bounce off. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Because you have to hear this bullshit from people and the, you know. I don't listen to it. I really don't. Good for you. I'm lucky that way. We have to take a quick break here. We're not going anywhere though. We will be right back on Blame It on Ginger. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We are back. I am Ginger Lynn. You're listening to Blame It On Ginger. I'm sitting here with Dr. Sham. Yeah. In the studio. Keeping you going. Giving you some sex tips. I want to thank Sham one more time for coming in. If you want to see Sham's artwork, you can go to shampop.com. That's S-H-A-M-P-O-P dot com. And see his artwork. It's absolutely fabulous. He's awesome. Wasn't he wonderful? Yeah. Love the energy. Smart guy. Absolutely awesome artwork. Love his stuff. Very, very talented. Yeah. Very talented. And we just hit it off like that. You know, sometimes you meet new people and it's just like I could totally hang with him. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Great conversation. Yeah. Great conversation. I'm thinking if there's any way that I can make it there tonight, I'm going to try. But the only thing I'm worried about is I won't have time to get ready. If I was going to go, I can't do wardrobe shopping and grocery shopping. Let's just go. Like this? Yeah. I thought you said you got over yourself a long time ago. Oh, I did. But not without makeup in public. Jenny can put your eyelashes on. I don't have any with me. Do you? I'll go buy some. This is downtown. No, we can buy some. This is downtown L.A. I can get underwear at the liquor store. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Can I not? I have to get lingerie. Okay. Let me think about it. How I can pull this off. I'm wearing combat boots and you know what? I look cute. Yeah, I can go pick up bras and panties in the morning. Will you spend the night and go and help me in the morning? Yeah, I'll have to do that. That's what we'll do. We'll just rearrange it. You're going to get me in so much trouble here. Is it free? My mind is like that woman's mind with all the, yeah, with all the freeways. I don't have just the Model T Ford on one. You've got the, you know, the, you know, the, you know, the, you know, the, you know, the, you know, Yeah, I got it. I'll jump on the subway. I'll jump on the bus. I'll jump on this. Let's make it work. I've never been to Fashion Week. It might be really fun. I haven't either. I've always wanted to see a fashion show. And you know what? For me to go with no makeup on and wearing a little like farm girl dress, it'll be perfect. Oh, you know, I'll be the only one that's... I've got a Sharpie. All the hipster kids will love it. We'll write Rockford on our shirts. No, but I love this dress. I don't want to write Rockford on my tits. Oh, we'll just put a Scooby sticker on you. A Scooby sticker. Yeah, we'll go with Scooby sticker. Just take off the undershirt. Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah, that's super like... Let me try that. And Ginger's coming out of her white dress to show you... Oh, gosh. You know what? She's going in her undershirt. She looks like a ghost now. Just in time for Halloween. Yeah. And we can cut it. We can cut it. And put fringe on it. I'll get some beads. Look, Jenny's got a... A necklace. I can just put the beads on the ends of everything I cut and pull it and tie little knots. Hold on. I think it might just work the way it is. Ginger's putting her dress inside out. I'm not sure what's going on here. Her bra matches her straps on the dress. Okay, what about it like this? It's see-through. Oh, yeah. Right. And now you can see because we get the bra. I can see the bra. It's sexy. I can see your shorts, your booty shorts. My booty shorts. What do you think, Dr. Sam? I think you look fucking fantastic. Really. It's see-through. I don't know if you might. It's fine, but... It's fashion week, though. It's fashion week. Yeah. That way I can pull it off. That's what's happening these days. She's wearing a see-through dress. Yeah, but I've got on... At least I've got on shorts and a bra. Because normally I don't wear any underwear. Although I do have matching underwear with this. But it's... How far is it from here? It's up in Hollywood. It's right... It's on our way home. It's on the way home, right. We can eat. We can even eat before we go. If you promise to get up... We won't have time. Yeah, we'll put the alarm on. I'll wake up. And you'll go with me to get what we need to get in the morning? I have English breakfast awake tea, which is what I... No, I used it when I modeled at the schools. Morning time tea. Sometimes I would be so tired because I go to sleep at three or four in the morning. Yeah. I have to get up at seven or be there at seven to model. So I would just slam this tea so I could stand still for eight hours and hold a pose. I don't know how you did nude modeling for eight hours. Well, I shouldn't say that. It was... I shot for Ron Vogel. If anybody knows Ron Vogel's work, it's brilliant. But you would hold one position for like three hours while he lit you. Oh. Oh, it was... By the time you were done... If I wasn't 20 years old at the time, I wouldn't have been able to do it. Wouldn't have been able to hold it together. But you know what? I don't know. Should I go? It sounds like fun, doesn't it? It sounds like fun. I've always wanted to go to one of these Fashion Week things if I had the time. Because it honestly... You should go to that. I want to. Do you want to go with us? I wish I could. I actually do have other things I got to get to tonight. Like what? I had to reschedule a few things here and there. Class, dinner. Oh, got it. Okay. But I... Do you have a girlfriend now? No. Oh, no. You don't want a girlfriend? Oh, I would love one. But I, you know, given what I do, given the people that I'm friends with, it's hard to find a person that's going to be able to fit that bill. That's going to be a whole, like, totally accepting and totally cool with it. Because I... I'm an extreme... I'm a nice guy. I like to think of myself... You're a really nice guy. You're a very, very, very nice guy. But I have a very eclectic group of friends. I like... I hang out with porn stars. I work with people and I have a pretty extreme lifestyle. I stay up pretty late and I have very little time because I have four jobs. You have four jobs? Yeah. Yeah. I work in radio. I work in, you know, doing therapy work, sex therapy stuff. I'm all over the radar. You're a really busy guy and you made time for us today. I... I... I... I... I... Well, thank you once again. Well, I love you. I mean, that's... That's... That's not even in question. I mean, we've got so much history and so much together that I absolutely will drop everything at a moment's notice for you. Well, that... That means the world to me. Thank you so much. Oh, well, thank you. I really, really appreciate it. I want to give a sex tip here a little bit. One of the things I want to say is it's... It's not a sprint. It's a marathon. Yes. You don't need to hurry up. You don't need to hurry up. I'm not saying that I want every sexual session to be, you know, four fucking hours long, but even 20 minutes is... Is... Is normal. 20 minutes is what you... You should strive for. A lot of people, guys, you get into the habit of just hopping on top and humping away and you're done. Women need a little bit more than that. And... And so take your time. Explore her body. Smell her. Touch her. Kiss her. Massage her. Grab her. Massage her. Pull her. Into you. Flip her so she's on top of you. You know, make it fun. Make it interesting. Lick her... You know what? Go down on her for 20 minutes and just lick her pussy. Make it all about her. The rewards will be a millionfold, I promise, or at least a hundredfold. Spoil your woman and don't make... Don't make it too fast. And ladies, it goes for you too. If you're giving a blowjob, don't just put... Bob your head up and down and try and get it to go really quick. Smell it. Taste it. Touch it. Feel it. You know, what I do a lot of times is I'll keep Lou by the bed, and I love combining a blowjob with a handjob at the same time, and you've got the little corkscrew thing you can do. You can run your hands up and down the cock. If you take your thumb and your forefinger and you put it at the front and the back of his cock, there's nerve endings on both sides that are really, really incredibly sensitive. The helmet of a guy's cock is the same as your clit when your hood is pulled back. It's the same sensation. It's that sensational. It's that sensational. Take your time. Put your tongue in the pee-pee hole. It's not going to hurt. He's not going to pee just because you put your tongue in it. And so take your time and enjoy. I agree. It's something that it's a matter of exploration. And any guys out there, you can come at any time you want. Any day, several times a day, unless you have something, you know, blocking you mentally or physically from having that happen. But almost any guy can come whenever they want. It's not every day that you can get a woman to come. And come hard to the point where they just want to keep going at it. If you have that opportunity, take it. Learn everything you can to bring that out. Some guys may have issues with being able to last long enough to make that happen. Then learn how to do everything else right. Learn how to give good head. Use your fingers. Figure out every alternative. And then once you got that stuff down, then you can start working on the little issues that you may have that you might find maybe holding you back. Absolutely. But go ahead and take the time and get everything. What was it? The band that said, baby, you can do it. Take the time. Do it right. That's exactly the rules for sex. Take your time. Do it right. Not every, like you said, not everything has to be, you know, a sprint. You know, we're not looking for Usain Bolt's in bed. We're looking for marathon runners sometimes. Well, and the thing is, if you get a sprint, a sprinter all the time, I don't want to run with you anymore. It's too fast. It's over. You're, you're, you're, you've already run the race and, and I'm not even start. I'm still at the, just out of the gate, you know? Yeah. So you do need to take your time. And I think that men rush it more than women do, unless women aren't being pleased by their man, in which case they will rush it just to get it over with. So back to men taking their time. Women taking the time. Enjoy your partner. Really feel them. Really notice them. Really pay attention to them. And every time you touch them, it doesn't have to be a sexual issue. Um, I find that if, if I'm with somebody and every time they touch me, that means they want sex. I'm not going to be doing it so much. Yeah. But if I, if you just come up and give me a hug, you can be a kiss on the cheek. You can be a peck on the neck. Um, you massage my shoulders, all of those little touch things. That's, those are foreplay. Yeah. That adds up. That absolutely adds up. That's absolutely foreplay. Yeah. Yes. Stevie, do you have one for us? I have, um, don't give into temptation. Oh, Oh, yeah. I don't know. What's it say about that? I always give into temptation. What kind of temptation? It says, if a woman who knows you're spoken for comes onto you, it's flattering. It's tempting. But remember that she's doing it to feed her own ego, not yours. So, um, she wants to see how much power she holds over you. So don't take the bait. Don't cheat on your partner. Uh, I, that is one of my, that's a big one. I would say pet peeves. It's a big pet. Pet peeves. Pet peeve of mine. Cheating. Yeah. Um, and at the end, for your weakness. If, if I thought because of the, the open lifestyle that I lead and I shouldn't say open lifestyle. I'm only with one man. Um, I'm with other women, but it's only with my man there. If my man cheated on me, the betrayal and, and it would, it would be too much. I could not deal with it. I would more than likely leave him because there's absolutely no reason whatsoever. But, but I would be very happy for him to cheat. And especially because I would be threatened that it was an emotional cheat. Yeah. And this is something that we have to make clear. We were talking earlier in the show about how you're trying to find a girl for his birthday. Right. It's not sex with another woman. Doesn't necessarily equal cheating. It's. It is cheating. If the person doesn't know about it, if it's consensual and everybody's communicated this, this is something that everybody knows is going on. That's not cheating. What really is cheating. What it boils down to is lies and deception. Yes. Yes. So I didn't even think that somebody might think that Nick cheated on me because he's with other women. I present the women to him. So it is a consensual situation where that's what we were both comfortable with. But it would be a whole different story if it was behind my back. Absolutely. I wasn't involved. And, and I, I just have no, no place for that in my life today. And I, and I'll admit it. I've been a cheater in the past. I have been, and I think most of us have, but when you find that right person, don't fucking cheat on them. It's not worth it. If you don't want to be in the relationship, then get out. If you want others, other, if you want strange all the time or even strange at all, you know, don't give into the temptation when a girl just flirts with you, it's not going to be worth it. I guarantee it. Yeah, absolutely. I saw one here that I really liked. Uh, don't go south during foreplay. What? Don't go south during foreplay. No, because that's usually part of foreplay, is going south, going down on a girl. Going down on, or a guy. Yeah, or a guy, but actually taking the time to focus in on parts of the body that are not the erogenous zones. Or not the main ones. Yeah, like the nipples or like the, you know, the pussy and any of that stuff. That's going to be where everybody directly focuses on. But there are so many other parts of the body that people find to be appealing, erogenous, like, you know, the arms, the shoulders, the neck, the ears. The arms. Yeah. Yeah, my neck, definitely. Yeah. Um, even, I like fingernails down my back. Yeah, absolutely. Um, give me an ass massage and, and, and you're going to get anal. Now, think of the anticipation that builds up when you're purposely avoiding touching those erogenous zones. Right. That means that the second that he happens to graze a nipple, or the second that he, you know, if he goes down and accidentally, you know, brushes up against a part of you that you like, or nuzzles up against the neck, or the ear, that moment, you are going to lose your mind. Yes. And do everything you can to just jump on him at that moment. Absolutely. Even, you know, a part I just thought of that is completely ignored, um, is eyelids. Yes. I love to kiss eyelids. Yeah. I don't know why. I don't know if it feels, I know that it feels good when it's done to me as well. There's something, you have to be so gentle. And, uh, and even a tongue sliding across an eyelid. Yeah. It's the, any place that's really delicate, like that. Right. Where you have to show a lot of tender loving care. Right. You know, you have to be very careful that, because if you do that the wrong way, that person could go blind. Yes. Yeah. You don't really, don't go licking the eyeball itself. Just the eyelid. Yeah. But, you know, you know, for me personally, I like my arms, you know, I like having my arms, you know, bitten, played with stuff like that. So if a person is trying to, you know, trying to spend most of their time trying to suck on my nipples, guess what? My nipples aren't exactly my favorite part of my body to be played with. Back to the communication issue. Absolutely. Absolutely. Communication's important. You need to be able to speak up about what part of your body, not just speak up, but the physical nonverbal communication that goes on with it. Because if say, for example, you don't like how much, like you said, you like somebody scratching your back. Right. If somebody is not scratching it hard enough, there's going to be nonverbal cues that show that you want it harder. Exactly. The way that I arch into you, the way that I, I moan, the way I push my hand back into you. Absolutely. Those are all going to be great nonverbal cues. Yeah. And you have to pay attention to those. They're there. Every woman, when something feels good, they express how they feel in their body, in their movements. And one of the biggest mistakes that I've found that men make is when they're doing something that the woman has responded to. Let's say you're, you're biting the back of my calf and I, moan, and then you move away. You might lose some of the, you know, the momentum that you built up. Pay attention to how your woman responds to what you're doing to her. Yeah. If she arches up against you, if she makes a moan, if her legs start to twitch, if she tightens her muscles, you know, those are, you know how to read a woman if you pay attention. Yeah. One thing that I actually really love doing is using my fingertips to run over the back. Cause even, you know, like, you know, how you have the, you know, the fingerprints, the little ridges and bumps inside your fingers. Sure. And if you move slow and, slow and calm enough over a woman's body, you can almost feel their skin rubbing those little parts of your finger. When you feel that, they're feeling that too. And there's something deeply sensual about having that slow, soft, really nice, like almost, like it's intricate contact. And it feels just as good to me on my fingertips as I think it does to the other person. One of my favorite things to do, and this, my man is, doesn't get turned on by me playing with his nipples, but it turns me on to run my fingers from pinky to ring finger, to the middle finger, to the pointer finger, to my thumb, run them better, just the four fingers, run them back and forth and feel the nipple get hard. Yeah. I love the way it feels on my fingertips, just touching my fingers. So enjoy the sensation that you get from touching as well as, as from the touch that is received by you. I get thrown off if a guy doesn't like his nipples played with. Really? Yeah, it just throws me off. I'm like start. And then they'll, but I do find guys that are like, no, no, don't play with my nipples. So you have to stop. But it's like, I'm like, hmm. They tickle too much on me. Now for me, it's a tickle factor. It's like, okay, now you're, and I'm one of those guys that you kind of remember, I'm extremely ticklish. So that's the kind of thing that if you start digging in on me like that, it's less of a turn on and more of me like, okay, stop, stop, stop. Now focus on parts of me that I like to have played with. Oh, see I'm that way with analing. I'm gonna see. Somebody tries to do, I'm laughing till I fall on the ground. Yeah, I just, I'm laughing before it even touches me. Yeah. I'm just like, I squirm. I'm like that wiggle butt, the wiggle butt in the corner with the canvas. I'm like all over the place. I haven't even touched you yet. And I'm like, I can feel it. It tickles. That's another part. That anticipation, you said you can feel it. You're not feeling the physical touch. You're feeling the breath about to hit you. That's something that's also, we need to really state how powerful and sensual breath is when you feel that on the skin. So there's so much that we have at our disposal that we can use to help bring that sense of pleasure out. And it's just a matter of exploring, finding what you like, finding what your partner likes, going after what you guys like and stopping what you don't like. And on that topic of exploring, it says here, stop the elevator, which says new place to have sex, number four, the elevator and try a freight elevator because it won't have an alarm and you can stop it between the floors for more privacy. And we're downtown. There's something extremely exciting to me about the thought of getting caught. I get turned on by it or being seen. I went to the green door recently and I thought that the turn on for me would be watching other people fuck. Yeah. That I would be just, just watching. Just walking around, watching other people fuck. And it was, and we walked in and we went to like, we went to every room that was in there, but ended up having sex in about six of the rooms over a four hour period. But we watched two other couples have sex and then ended up, we were the ones that were the show. I was shackled up in the dungeon room. I was in the couple's room, splayed out on the bed. I was getting my pussy eaten while I was shackled and looking over at a window. And I saw a woman lying on the bed next to me, just watching me get my pussy eaten. Wow. And the whole time there were guys standing around, jerking off and all I could do, I would move. I couldn't go very far, but I would move just so that I could see this woman's eyes while we were, while my man was going down to me. It was an amazing turnout. So try doing it in, in a public place, but be careful. You don't want to get caught for real. You know, I was in a safe environment in a swing club, but the fear of getting caught is a huge turnout for a lot of people and, and public places. I've done it in, in Hollywood, standing in a line. Wow. I was with a friend and we're outside a club in Hollywood and you know how they have little, little doorways that are set back maybe, oh, I don't know, 12 inches or so. And it's just a door that's like in the middle of a brick wall and that's the entrance to some secret place you don't know. But standing in line, waiting to get into a club one night, I was with a date and we just, I wore, I was wearing a skirt and we just pulled my skirt up and he leaned me back against that door and just stood there and just fucked me with people just standing there watching and walking by. Wow. And it was, it was hugely risky. Could have been a big jail time, but it was one of the most exciting nights that I've ever had. Just doing it outdoors is another wonderful, wonderful idea. I gave a blow job to a friend hiking one, one day and it was just the best blow job ever. It was my boyfriend. It was a nature blow job. It was X to the ferns. The redwoods. Squirrels passing by. Birds tweeting. I took my backpack off, put my little thing down on the ground, put my knees on it and just, I could feel the breeze. We were underneath the trees and people were, you know, going by on the trail. We could have been caught at any time. So, you know, explore with sex, communicate with your partner. Don't do it too fast. Have a good time. Be safe and keep listening to Blame It On Ginger. I want to thank Dr. Sam for coming in. Thank you for having me. It's always a pleasure. It really is a pleasure. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. And I think our listeners do as well. Oh, shucks. Oh, Jeevy. Sam got, yeah, let's see. What is, what are the websites we want to talk about before we end? Before we end? Yeah. You can find, let's see, Sham's at Sham Pop Art on Twitter. Okay, Sham Pop Art. Instagram is Sham Ibrahim1, S-H-A-M-I-B-R-A-H-I-M with a one to check out. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. 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