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Interview with Eddie Solis about booking shows and LA life

56m 41s
💾 575 MB
📅 2013-09-08
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Duration: 56m 41s
Size: 575 MB
Aired: 2013-09-08
Host: Johnny Scott Gramercy
Guests: Eddie Solis
Host Johnny Scott Gramercy interviews Eddie Solis, host of Los Angeles Nista, about his work booking shows at the Relax Bar, his upbringing in East LA, and his advocacy for public transportation. Includes music clips and station promos.

🎵 Playlist

0:00 Theme from "Enter the Dragon" (Main Title) — Lalo Schifrin 🎧
8:00 Jesus Children Of America — Stevie Wonder 🎧
16:00 Roderigo (Natural Self Remix) — Lack of Afro 🎧
19:00 Si Si Puede (loa Remix) (Lack of Afro Remix) [Lack Of Afro Remix] — Ray Camacho & The Teardrops 🎧
27:00 (I Know) I'm Losing You — The Temptations 🎧
43:00 Nappy Head (Theme from "Ghetto Man") — War 🎧
46:00 Golden Years (Single Version) [2014 Remastered Version] — David Bowie 🎧
49:00 Sitting In The Park — Billy Stewart 🎧

📄 Transcript [show]

Well, hello loved ones. And what's up, Eddie? How you doing? Talk show host right here at Skid Row Studios. He hosts Los Angeles, Nista, a bunch of other stuff. 64 episodes deep. Yeah. Apparently the only thing he could do, or not do rather, is sit down very long in one place. So we're going to chop it up a little bit, but first I got some tunes for you. This is Alice Russell featuring her skeletons, Adam and Eve. Enjoy, loved ones. Let's do this. The Adam and Eve Now it was good to the birds and the bees And mom and dad doing it witty So get on up Don't try to hide Just save your pride Let it show what you're feeling inside Get on up Come with me They're doing the thing That you never did see So get on up Come with me We're going to do it Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it We're going to do it Get on up Come with me We're going to do The Adam and Eve Yes, the Adam and Eve Mm-hmm Ooh, get on up, come over here with me We're gonna do it, do it, do it, do it Mother Nature, hook me here with you And you know exactly what to do Get on up, come with me We're gonna do it, do it, Adam and Eve Now it was good to the birds and bees And mom and dad doing it pretty So get on up, don't try to hide And let it show what you're feeling deep inside Come on, come with me We're gonna do it, do it, do it, do it Mother Nature, hook me here with me So get on up, get on up, come over here with me We're gonna do it, do it, do it, do it Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it Adam and Eve Ooh, Adam and Eve Come with me Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh for me Turns out I was only her number two Not knowing what to do What to say or who would help me through I went down to talk to the man on the corner stool I said Do you have any advice for me I said Son Don't fight another's reality Use your intuition to assess each situation Sometimes you should stay Sometimes you should run When I came home She is out gone Not interested in conversation Let alone exploring emotions Oh Oh Padre Ichiro told me something My eyes now start to see She loves that marijuana more than she loves me She loves that marijuana more than she loves me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me She loved me more than she loved me But when I got there, all he did was give a knowing glare And I knew what I had to do, it was clear When I came home, I stayed strong Didn't let her get me to blaze her home I said get balanced or get gone Padre Ichiro taught me something my eyes now clearly see She loves that marijuana more than she loves me She loves that marijuana more than she loves me She knows to even share her good stuff with me So of course she loves it more than being free She loves it more than being free Are you hearing what he's saying? Are you feeling what you're praying? Are you hearing, praying, feeling what he's saying? Inside You'd better tell your story back And if you like it It will come to pass Tell me, holy, holy roller Are you standing like a soldier now? Are you standing for everything? Talk about you Transcendental meditation Meditation Meditation Speak to the inner Preservation Transcendental meditation Meditation gives you peace of mind You'd better tell your story back And if you like it It will come to pass Meditation gives you peace of mind You'll never lie Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Coll jud jud Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. to 2011. Was it just something you just figured you'd start, you know, just doing a little bit on the side and devoting like only, you know, a little bit of time to, and then it just turned into like this full-time job? Yeah, well, you know, it was really convenient as well because at the time I was working at a record label down the street and I would just, you know, Thursday and Friday, I'd just walk over to the club literally five minutes away and work my show. So it was convenient. Um, you know, for me, I was proud of the fact that I was providing a fair platform for people. There was no pay to play. If you brought people, you got paid a cut at the door. Everything was fair. And for LA, in the heart of Los Angeles and Hollywood, that's pretty rare. It was, it was ran like a basement underground DIY space, but you know, right off Hollywood and Westman. This was the relax bar. The relax bar. And no one was discriminated upon. All genres were welcome. But my focus really was heavy original. Edge music, like hardcore metal, all the sub genres. What, uh, what would you say are some of the, uh, highlights as far as, uh, let me be more specific. Like who, who did you, uh, who did, who did you get to work with there that maybe I wouldn't have known at the time and they turned out to be a big, big diamond. Well, um, I did a show with a band, a thrash band called Municipal Waste from the East Coast. And they're huge. Yeah, they're huge now. And that's my, my footage is. And the place is just packed and, and, you know, it was, it was amazing because there were so many people in there. I mean, I had no idea a space that small could hold that many people. And I was proud of the money I paid them out for the show for a space that small. Yeah. Um, cause my overhead was low, you know, and it was just a really good situation for everyone involved. I mean, the year after they came and played the Fonda, which is a way bigger venue. So, you know, I was definitely ahead of the curve on some of the bands I was booking. Um, and I was like, I'm going to do this. Um, and I was like, I'm going to do this. Um, and I was like, I'm going to do this. Um, and I was like, I'm going to do this. Another big one that's also on YouTube. If you punch in Relax Bar Municipal Waste, you'll see the footage. Or if you punch in Relax Bar Unholy Grave, this is a band from Japan. A really, you know, um. I don't know them. Well-respected, uh, hardcore crust band. And, you know, I mean, a thing. It was the same situation as, you know, um, Municipal Waste. Yeah. Just, you know, six months later they came back and, you know, more eyes were on them. That kind of thing. Yeah, that's good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. whether your room holds 100 people or 500 people at the Tributor, and you're dealing with agents, and they're selling you a show, because that's what they're doing, and you're dealing with the paperwork, and you learn the template of how to put a show on and how to get everyone paid on the back end as well, there's a strategy to it. You've got to be coherent. You can't just piss in the wind. Well, I imagine all these endeavors are not really something that just anybody could walk in. Obviously, you've got people skills. Obviously, you've got to follow through. You know what I mean? Yeah, on the simple things. And you have to garner some loyalty. Let's face it, and we're talking about musicians here, and we're talking about, like you said, mostly on the harder edge, which doubles the flake factor. Absolutely. Let's be real. So, I mean, if you're able to farm out some sort of loyalty and have something about yourself that makes people feel like you're a good person, and people want to come through for you, then, you know, not everybody off the street would be able to turn that out. You know, yeah, I think, you know, at the end of the day, whether you're booking shows at the Relax Bar in Tide Town, the place holds 150 people, or if you're selling vacuum cleaners door to door, at the end of the day, you have to just get people to believe in you, no matter what you're doing. Yeah, you're selling yourself. That's it. That's awesome, man. And so I imagine, like, with all those feathers in your cap, you know, working on Stoked Records, you know, now, I'm excited. that that's going to really help you out. Yeah. I'm excited because I roll out of bed, and I'm working for myself, and I'm doing the same thing I've been doing for 20 years for other people, and I'm just doing it for myself. Yeah. And it's a good feeling. But also, the flip side of that is, things have to get done. Yeah. So, I get up extra early. No one left to blame. No one stops here. Yeah, I get up extra early. I drink extra coffee, and I just go to it. 6 a.m., I'm on the phone with the East Coast. And you're happy? I'm a very happy man. Yeah. That's awesome, man. Thanks. Hey, we're going to come back in a little bit, and I want to talk to you a little bit more about your specific story growing up and whatnot. Thank you. Hey, you want to hear a little bit more tunes, though? Sure. What do you got? Let me see. I got There's a Ride Going On by Monophonics, a great Bay Area, sort of psychedelic, hard funk soul band. And they are scheduled to come in on the show next week. But we'll see how that works out. Anyway, they're playing The Mint this Friday at 13th. Monophonics. Get ready. Uncle Sam is out Yeah, he's just looking for more Marching pickets high State patrols Sidewalks they walk So back and forth they All the pain will keep us going Politics is power So the world keeps on turning Revolution on fire So the world keeps on burning The riot going on Yeah, that's the riot Going on What's it all really mean To be free All these questions Keep on looking for me Paranoia in my brain As I start to feel Will all this remain Till the day that I die Love me Politics is power So the world keeps on turning Revolution on fire So the world keeps on burning The riot going on Yeah, that's the riot Going on! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! You've got your arms And do what you need Yeah! And I want my time And I want my time All right And I want my time And I want my time Yeah, that's the riot Oh, yeah, that's all right. Oh, yeah, that's all right. Oh, yeah, that's all right. Oh, yeah, that's all right. Oh, yeah, that's all right. Oh, yeah, that's all right. Oh, yeah, that's all right. Oh, yeah, that's all right. I don't know which way to go. So I won't be coming home for you to keep. Cause you see, I'm much too tired to sleep. You used to be the best. But it's been a long time since I had a good night's rest Running around with my best friend Jill Let me tell you, if I had a gun I'd shoot to kill I don't know which way to go So I won't be coming home for you to keep Cause you see, I'm most too tired to sleep I don't know which way to go So I won't be coming home for you to keep Cause you see, I'm most too tired to sleep Oh, I'm most too tired Oh Just too tired Step up if you wanna get hurt Get up if you wanna get hurt Get up if you wanna get hurt Just too tired. Step up if you wanna get hurt. That was Sean Lee. That's not only a Ubiquity label. From the record called Soul in the Hole. 2009, Too Tired to Sleep featuring Fanny Franklin from Los Angeles. Fanny Franklin, you know her work. She's got a great body of soul work. Solo work, excuse me. And she plays with Orgone and a couple other projects. She's a great talent, Fanny Franklin. She's on a prior show. But let's talk a little bit more about Eddie. What's going on? So you're born in East LA. I was born in East LA. No, for reals. You know, just like the song. At East Los Angeles Community Hospital. 1975. And what was your home life like? Was it pretty, you know, were you pretty supportive as far as like anything? Any kind of creative endeavors that you wanted to do? Absolutely. Home life was, you know, a mother and father that came from being heavily influenced by heavy music. And... Like what? Oh, Black Sabbath. Okay. Led Zeppelin. All right. The Who. I remember clear as day, you know, being young and my dad is, you know, carrying me on his shoulder and listening to the first Black Sabbath record on vinyl and him pulling the, you know, the old Kenwood stereo systems with the big speakers, with the speakers. You know, the cover. Yeah. Yeah. Him, you know, taking them off and I would want to feel the speakers. Yeah. One of the old school audio files, you know, and they have this weird gear that, you know. And I was always amazed by, you know, when the lights were dim in the house and there was music going, the tuners had like that aqua blue digital. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Just like little things like that. And then the metallic hardware. Yeah. How many people you know, because I can think of three times where for some reason a bug light would crawl in to the receiver and get trapped in the little display, that little dial. Yeah. Have you ever seen that? Yeah. What's up with that? Why have I seen that more than once in my life? Maybe it's symbolic or something. I think maybe it's just something about maybe the tube. Tubes are warm there and they come looking for something. It's like a bug light. Yeah. Literally. But yeah, but that was home life. I mean, music constantly played. You know, my parents, siblings coming over. Yeah. They were there and they all like played instruments and it was very, you know, on a local level, but it was always like, you know, your uncles with long hair come in and oh wow, they're- You got a big family? I do. And you did that whole bit with like barbecues and all that stuff? It was, you know, it wasn't the backyard boogie, it was a front yard boogie. Okay. What does that mean? It means, you know, I mean, you know, barbecues, you know, everyone talks about the backyard boogie, you know, your parties, your family parties. It was like, you know, everything would get so, so up. Yeah. It was so upbeat and so big, like you would do it in the backyard and front yard simultaneous in the neighborhood. Oh, I got you. You know, playing music. Yeah. Overflow. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. And what, so what do we, what neighborhood specifically are we talking about? Like during this time? Well, this is, you know, this is, at this point, this is probably El Sereno and Whittier. Okay. And what are we talking about food wise? Cause that's, let's just get down to brass tacks. It's carne asada, you know, grilled over an open flame. Mm-hmm. And you know, everyone making tacos out of them and all that good stuff. You, you okay on the barbecue? You do okay yourself? Actually, I'm, you know, I haven't done it in a while, but I do pretty well. What's your specialties? I would say beer marinated burgers. Okay. Well, we don't have all night, but let's give a quick, quick synopsis of a beer marinated burger. You mean you just throw the patty on and like, throw a beer on there? Yeah. You know, there's something special going on there. Well, it's case by case basis. It's like, you know, whatever you're dealing with at the time. Are you being specifically aloof about it? Cause you got a secret. Mm. No, I'm very transparent. I like, I like. As far as a recipe, I mean. Well, a recipe, it's about like black and tan in a bowl. Yeah. You know, Bassail in Newcastle. Mm-hmm. Or a Guinness and just, you know, make hand patties. Mm-hmm. Best grade stuff though. Yeah. And just do like a quick dip. Yeah. You don't want to cheap out on it. Yeah. You know, just a quick dip in the beer before you put it on the grill. Awesome. Yeah. And so where are you at now? Where do you, where do you call home? Good old Boyle Heights. Okay. The first East side city over the bridge. Okay. What's your address? I'm just kidding. 666. I'm just kidding. And yeah, you, you, you pretty friendly in the neighborhood. Like that's important to me is to have like a walking neighborhood, you know, to be a part, I want to be a part of my neighborhood. Do you know what I mean? You know what? Let's just say. Yeah. I mean, that, you know, when I walk out my front gate, I eat, I go to the taco stand on hot summer nights and hang, you know, to my left would be, um, a member of the local gang white fence and we'd be talking about basketball. Those are basketball fans. And usually, uh, one of the guys, you know, um, that, you know, that are not, you know, don't speak English as well. Um, maybe, um, a term used in that Los Angeles is bicep or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever heard of Paisa Taxi? No. Well, this is in rumor status, but I guess it's a small little network of dudes. Like, you call for a ride, and this is sort of an underground taxi service. And kind of the thing about it is, like, basically if you call and you're not speaking Spanish, like authentic Spanish, like, they're just going to hang up on you. Right. Well, I do know, you know, when you stand at the bus stops in downtown in Hollywood, I don't know if you've ever seen this, but you see, like, just like a Crown Vic, like a cop car or a taxi car, like maybe usually a black or blue. They just pull up and ask you if you want a ride. So they're trying to, you know, infiltrate the bus, the MTA's business, and the other cabs. En Español? Yeah. Oh, that's cool. What do you think about the, now you're a big advocate for public transportation. What's your take on the whole new ride-sharing thing going on with, like, Lyft, Uber, sidecar? Are you familiar with all that stuff? Yeah. Well, I think that's, that right there is actually going to give the cabs, the taxi cabs, competition. Yeah. It already is. It already is, yeah. That's why L.A. is kind of trying to throw anything they can at them. It's state-sanctioned, but not locally. I mean, they can operate locally, but it's L.A. because L.A. is the one feeling it, you know, as far as. Sure. Anytime you get an old system, we're talking about unions and things like that. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of, let's face it, there's a lot of hands in that pie. A lot of politics. So, yeah, you don't, you know, you're going to piss off a couple people who have their hands in that pie. They're going to write up some cease and desist orders if they can. Absolutely. What do you, do you think it's, do you think it's helpful? I do. And I do know from talking to Jose Ubaldo over at the MTA, one of the media spokesperson, you know, part of what they're trying to do, too, is, you know, finish the whole 405. That project. And actually, once the labor is done on that, they're going to put a lot of their energy into focusing on the marketing of ride sharing. Yeah. To get to cut cars down. Yeah. You know. I like to say it's just a better system. Absolutely. I like free enterprise, you know, and I hope it doesn't, I hope no bad incidents happen that leave a sour taste in people's mouth. You know what I mean? But it's bound to come up at some point. It's just a lot. It's just, you know, it's a numbers game. Eventually, you know, somebody's. Yeah. They're going to get hurt or something bad's going to happen and it's going to go. Yeah. It's going to put a big black smudge on a good system. You know what I mean? Right. And so you still, like I mentioned, you're a big public transportation advocate. So it's just pretty much an everyday thing for you. It is. Yeah. The MTA. I get on at least once. And do you remember the Rick Tomandero Rough, Tough and Dirty? The RTD? Well, I do. I remember they wouldn't run as frequent as the MTA. Yeah. And back then, right? I mean, it's definitely an L.A. thing. On a Sunday, you know, the times table was cut in half. So if you missed one bus, you have to wait like another hour. No, the RTD sucked. It sucked so bad. I mean, you missed a bus. Well, first of all, it might not even have been you missed a bus. It's just they didn't show. And that means your next bus. It's one hour. It's packed. Yeah. You know? I mean, that fucking number 33 Venice Boulevard, man. It was packed. And you're getting tired because you're standing there. Yeah. And then when you get on, you're just like, are you kidding me? Everyone's holding on. Yeah. I would skateboard. I live five miles from the beach. I would just skate. Skated every day. Right. So you would skate the Venice Wall and everything? The pavilion? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was down there. I was a little boardwalk rat for a while. That was legendary. And then I skated back from, I skated back. I lived right by Venice Heights. So I skated back from Palisades one time. It was just, and I would have gladly taken a bus. The rough, you know, the RTD. But, well, first of all, I didn't really have any money. But, I mean, you know, even if they ran well, you know, I mean, who wants to skate that much in one trip? You know, not me anyway. But, yeah, it was just unreliable. So the MTA is so monumentally more successful in every way, shape, or form than the RTD. And right now they're working on a campaign in September. It's called Rail Safety Month Throughout California. And... We got about 10 to 15 seconds. Can you tell me a little bit about that? Yeah. So basically accidents happen when people are on the platform running after a train, but they don't have to because they come every six minutes. Yeah. That is part of the monumentally, you know, put together infrastructure. I mean, you don't even need a schedule. Who do we have to thank for that, by the way? I would say, Bia Rigoso. Okay. Because he's the one I brought LA's mojo back with when it comes to public transportation. But you go into that later, I guess. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to play a little bit of lowrider set. I'm going to play a little bit of lowrider set for you. Since we brought up Whittier a little bit earlier. We got, of course, there's the Great War theme from Ghetto Man called Nappy Head from the All Day Music record. I think that was... I don't remember. Mid to late 70s. I don't remember exactly. Anyway, loved ones, this is Neighborhood Love Radio. Please enjoy. . . . . guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo Billy Stewart, pretty much my favorite R&B singer of all time. Sitting in the park, prior to that we heard the great David Bowie, Golden Years. That was a lowrider tune. It was. I didn't notice it. Golden Years. Prior to that, of course, we heard Nappy Head from War. Good choice. Thank you. Eddie, thanks so much. As always, man, there's not enough time. I wish I had a two-hour show like you do. The show that I'm talking about, Eddie's show, Los Angeles Nistas, you can find that right here at skidrowstudios.com and always great guests. Always great guests. Sometimes multiple guests and you get a lot covered, man. I like your show. Thank you. And when I'm sort of qualifying Skid Row Studios to people, your show inevitably comes up as the qualification. Like, it's a high point of the studio, so I'm really glad you came in to sit and hang out. Well, I'm just really excited to be a part of the Skid Row family and thanks to Jeremy for letting me do it and thank you for inviting me on your show. Yeah. By the way, if you want to know a little bit more of what we're talking about, like Eddie's show or some of the other shows here, like The Hailing Hour or The Very Manic Jimmy Cab Show, you can find me on the show. You can find skidrowstudios.com but also there's an app. If you go to the iTunes app store and just search skidrowstudios or if you Android loved ones, you can find it at stitcher.com and again, just search skidrow studios. Coming up on neighborhoodlove.com is an interview with I-E-Y-E-I from the SH crew, one of the old time guys, one of the veteran graffiti guys and he's also the founder of Los Angeles Graffiti Mag. Lost. Upcoming interview this week. I'm looking forward to that. And that's at neighborhood-love.com My name is Johnny Scott Gramercy. This is Neighborhood Love Radio. Thank you so much. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... We'll be right back. Oh, yeah. We're listening to Skid Row Studios. I'm not doing it with you. Please do it with me. Fuck that. Can you please have sex with me? At Skid Row Studios? At Skid Row Studios. Maybe. Okay. Hey, this is Eddie Solis, producer and host of Los Angeles Nisa. Make sure you listen to the show live every Monday night, 9 p.m. to 11 p.m. Pacific Standard Time at skidrowstudios.com. And make sure you download the Skid Row Studios app for your iPhone. Hello, I'm Julianne Good, the host of Psych One-on-One, live on Mondays from 7 to 8 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. Every week I talk with psychology experts as we explore the issues that matter to you. Anything from reducing anxiety to getting better Zs at night. Call in at 800-893-9562 to ask us questions and give us your opinions. We'd love you to join us. We're here to make psychology understandable and give you the information you need to make your life better. And if you can't listen live, our shows are also archived and available for downloading from iTunes. And we're at www.skidrowstudios.com. Join us, please.