Old school vs new school video games debate

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He warned me that he was going to be late though, so he'll be here in like 15-20 minutes. A couple of things first. I don't know if you see my towel. I wasn't informed incorrectly that it's National Towel Day in honor of... Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? But it's actually May 25th. Misdirection, that's the key. That's the key. And don't panic. Also don't panic. So that was awesome. But I have a towel on me, ready for action at any moment. Really, you should probably have a towel at all times. Also, I have a question about Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Yeah. The dolphins are the smartest species on the planet. I do remember that, yes. And they rape a lot. Yeah, well they do in reality. Does that mean you're... Are you saying rape is smart? It wasn't so much a question as a comment, I guess. Well, they do in reality, but maybe they don't in Hitchhikers. I hadn't thought of that. In reality, dolphins are rapers. They've evolved to a higher life form. Yeah. I wrote a joke about pirates. People are always like, really think pirates are great. And it's like, really? I don't think they are. They're pretty much just fashionable rapists. Yeah, that's fair. That's reasonable. Yeah. Yeah. And the funny part about that is I don't think anybody else thinks that's funny because they all think... When you think pirate, you think of... Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp, you know, being cool. And not a guy, you know, killing your family and raping you and then killing you. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And then stealing all your stuff. Right. Which is what, you know, pirates did. I don't care so much once I've been raped and murdered. Yeah, yeah. You can have my stuff. Yeah, at that point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not... I'm not attached to it at that point. Consider it a gift. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. As much as you enjoyed... Yeah. ...picking and raping. Which I'm sure was just glorious. I mean, honestly. I have a beautiful ass. If you weren't aware, guys out there in Radioland, Ron Swallow's ass is fantastic. I think you're going too far now. Fair enough. So, do you have a nerdy rant? I don't, strangely enough. I have a nerdy rant and I have it written down on a list of nerdy rants. Okay. I don't know if I've done it before. Okay, let's listen. But I'm pretty sure I have not. Okay. So, it was inspired by Movie 43. Okay. No, you definitely haven't done this. Okay. So, basically... All right. We all know that hipsters have this weird group thing. Okay. Yeah. It's weird. It is awkward. It's almost like the apes... Yeah. ...on the different islands... It's... ...pilling bananas upside down stuff. Yeah. Right. It's this arbitrary system of, oh, this is cool, this is terrible. Yeah. And everything... It's a very binary system. I mean, nothing is just meh. Yeah. I guess life for hipsters is just meh. But, yeah, everything is either the greatest thing ever, which is, if it's something you've never heard of, it's great. You know? But... Or if it's something that's terrible, that's really terrible. Yeah. It's something that everybody agrees is terrible, they go, oh, it must be great. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So, it's this weird, possibly arbitrary, possibly just incredibly complex system of checks and cool balances. So, basically, I had to explain to a friend the other day, they said, you know, why is it that nobody ever, you know, cops to being a hipster? And I said, oh, well, that's easy. The hipster group think has determined that hipsters are not cool. Yeah. So, everybody that follows the hipster group think goes, oh, I'm not a hipster. What are you talking about? They're not cool. And then they twist their... Yeah. Strange little mustaches. ...mustaches. Yeah. Yeah. And play accordion. And you're like... I'm not a hipster, though. What are you talking about? It's 2013. I've got a mandolin. While wearing a grandma's overcoat of some type. The guys in the booth are laughing. I don't know if they're laughing in an offended way or... No. God, this shit's funny, dude. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, basically, I'm just tired of the hate wagon. Okay. I'm tired of the hate wagon that's coming out. Okay. Basically, Movie 43 came out. And I was like, okay, it's a sketch movie. So, like most sketch things, it's going to be hit and miss. I didn't watch it because, you know, I'm not going to go to a theater to see a sketch movie. Yeah. We've got perfectly good sketch shows right now. Yeah, exactly. If you're not watching Key and Peele, then Jesus Christ, I don't know what you're doing. That's the funniest show on TV, bar none. If you're not watching Mitchell and Webb... I haven't watched that yet. Oh, my God. Go find Mitchell and Webb. I think it's streaming on Hulu. Okay. Yeah. Just go find it. It's one of the best sketch shows of all time. And it's just from the recent few years. It's the guys who are the leads in Peep Show. Okay. Nice. Anyway, the point is, it's a sketch. It's a sketch movie, right? Kentucky Fried Movie style, right? Kentucky Fried Movie. Half of it is really stupid. And the other part of it is hilarious. And some of it is like the funniest shit you've ever seen. And it was totally Enter the Dragon. Right. Okay. So, I figured Movie 43 is probably going to be that. Right. Just, you know, just guessing. But. The week that movie came out, it was like that movie was the Holocaust. Like, you could not get away from on Twitter how awful Movie 43 was. Movie 43 was worse than African babies dying. Like, I mean, like. Whoa. I mean, like, everywhere it was, oh, what is this thing? Movie 43, whatever. And it was just, it was the butt of every punchline. I'm like, I know for a fact that none of you guys went to see that. And I know that for a fact because I looked at the box office results of the opening weekend. I know. Nobody went to see it. I think it was named because of the 43 audience members that went to see it nationwide. Yeah. I'm just, I'm tired of the hate wagon. Yeah. Like, I understand the excitement wagon. That I get. I'm like, hey, Iron Man 3 looks pretty fucking cool. It really does. I understand. Let's get stoked. Mandarin. But, like, I don't understand the en masse, oh, we're all going to hate this thing. You know? Yeah. Well, it's a popular thing to do because it's much easier to hate stuff. Than it is to appreciate stuff. And, I mean, I even fall into that, you know, like, you know how much I hate dubstep, for instance. And, you know. To be fair, you've at least heard dubstep. True. Yeah. And I don't criticize any movie that I have not seen. I'm not going to do that. I mean, you know. Right. Because you know, you know that that's happening left and right. Oh, yeah. Because all these movies that are getting, you're seeing a lot of jokes at the expense of a lot of movies that are bombing. And you're like, you're not going to see them. I can tell. Because, you know, they're bombing. Yeah. You know? I know nobody went to see John Carter. John Carter's fucking great. It is good. That's a super fun movie. I had a great time with it. Nobody went to see Dread. It's not a lot like the comic, but it's still great. Nobody went to see Dread. Dread was awesome. I love it. Dread, I heard, was one of the best comic book movies in years. I still haven't seen it, though. Dread is the comic book quality movie of, like, Blade. It's one where you're not really expecting that much. And then you go and you're like, holy shit, that blew me the fuck away. Okay, cool. I mean, Blade is almost a perfect movie. If not, it's not. I'm looking forward to that weird blood god thing at the end. He basically is fighting, you know, the Kool-Aid man, but with no glass. Yeah. At the end of that movie. Which we'll definitely have to talk about when we talk about special effects in the coming weeks. Okay. Because I definitely want to have a big special effects conversation. That would be a lot of fun. Let's do that. I also have been watching Face Off, which I usually hate reality shows, but have you seen Face Off at all? Yeah, it's that reality show where Nicolas Cage takes John Travolta's face off and puts it on his own face. And then for some reason... And then for some reason, he puts his own face onto Travolta's face. Yeah, and then their wives get confused, even though they would have completely different dicks. It's not like Dick Off. No one's... You know what I mean? Well, you don't know what that doctor can do. He just made each other's dick exactly the same as the other dude's dick. Yeah, that seems likely. And then it's a special effects show where competing special effects guys make like monsters, or they did a Star Wars one, or superheroes. Superheroes. Superheroes. It's like Project Runway, except it's like Project Faceway. Yeah, exactly. I gotcha. And it's way cooler because it's mostly just... They have some drama and some bullshit and stuff in there or whatever, but it doesn't matter to me. I don't care about that. Watching the special effects at the end is worth the entire show. Oh, my God. The drama and the bullshit. Can we just say this? Take the drama and the bullshit out of fucking professional poker. Oh, yeah. Not necessary. If we're watching a poker tournament, I guarantee you we don't give a shit who's mom... Mom died last year. People who are sitting around watching poker love one thing. Poker. Poker. Yeah. We like to see Daniel Negreanu guess people's hands. Yeah. That's what I want to see. That's what you want to see? You want to say, I would have played this hand better. When you can see the fucking whole card. That's what we all want to do. Yeah, exactly. We don't give a shit that, you know, ever since I got married and found God, you know, my poker game is going to come to a whole nother level. You know, we don't give a shit. Play the fucking game. Yep. Agreed. Okay. One of the reality shows, these reality competition shows that I enjoyed the most, it was only on for, I think, one season, maybe two, but I watched it all in one sitting, which I highly recommend it. This is the way to watch a reality show. Just... Watch the whole season in five hours. Break your leg, you know, and then just... Get a cold. Just burn through an entire series in one day. But it was this show on SyFy Channel. It was about video games. It was a video game competition. So they picked the... The like... The... I guess... I don't know if they have belts. Probably not. Yeah. They probably don't have belts in video game competitions. Not that I know of. Because they'd have to be so giant. But it's all of the top contenders of like, this is the best fighting game guy, and this is the best racing game chick. You know what I mean? Okay, cool. And so... And they all, for some reason, have to live in a house. But... Of course. But they had two competitions every week, and one competition was playing the video game. And the other competition was doing the video game thing in real life. Oh, wow. So like, one time, like, it was a first person shooting. And then they all had to play paintball and actually like, shoot at each other. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. So it was, uh, it was pretty cool. But yeah, there was a lot of backstory of... And my mom didn't love me enough. It's like, we know you're on a fucking reality show. We know every one of you are bipolar. You have a drug problem. Your parents don't give a shit. And you're broke. That's why you're on the reality show. Yeah. It has nothing to do with how good you are. Yeah. Although it probably does. At least with that show. You had to be at least good at video games. Right. Which was, I mean, that was interesting to me. Yeah. But speaking of video games... That's what we're, our topic is today. We're doing old school game versus new school games. Um, and, uh, when I say old school games, by the way, I don't mean like Pong versus World of Warcraft. Dude, you gotta tell me beforehand. I do, however... I'm thinking like Pong versus World of Warcraft. I do, however, mean like Legend of Zelda versus World of Warcraft type of stuff. Okay. Yeah. I mean, obviously Pong is... Legend of Zelda. Legend of Zelda. Legend of Zelda. Legend of Zelda. Legend of Zelda. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun for the Nintendo. You know what I mean? But, and Missile Command is a good time. I enjoyed all of those. Um, I guess we can include Missile Command in there because Missile Command was actually pretty fucking hard. I don't know if you've played Missile Command. Missile Command, Missile Command always reminded me of Let's Play Global Thermonuclear War. Yeah, totally. That was a good time. Do you remember Dr. Spadeso? You ever, did you ever play Dr. Spadeso? That's a game? It was an, well, it's not really a game. It's an old school, uh, one of the first... This is the guy that sells you your weed, right? Yeah, totally. No, it's a, it's one of the first... Hey, Dr. Spadeso. Let's go talk to Dr. Spadeso, guys. My anxiety's coming back, man. We need Dr. Spadeso on the phone. He was a, it was a program in a, in a computer that you could type in stuff and ask him questions and he would talk back to you. But he would sound like, uh, Dr. Spadeso, uh, you'd ask him like, um, you know, like, what's your name? My name is Dr. Spadeso. And I was like, uh, do you, uh, do you want to talk about, uh, vaginas? And he's like... Why are you talking about sexy stuffs? Do you like to talk about sexy stuffs? Why was there never a horror movie about this? It was pretty awesome, man. That sounds disturbing as fuck. It was hilarious. It's like the little good guy doll. It's like, I love you. And also you are going to die. Yeah, pretty much. That's awesome. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Um, me and my friend Chris Lepke played it. I haven't seen him for years. So, um, anyways, uh... Rest in peace, motherfucker. Yeah, exactly. Shit. No, he's in... He, he was like a hobo. For a while. Like, literally jumped on trains and, like, went around the country and stopped at a place and fucking, like, one place he'd juggle fire for a living, another place he'd literally just work at a flapjack joint. Like, it was... He, like, did all kinds of crazy shit while he was, uh, for like six months to a year. And I haven't seen him for a while. If you're good at juggling fire and bad at cooking flapjacks, those could be the exact same job. Yeah, exactly. Um, but, uh, yeah, I think, like, Legend of Zelda compared to World of Warcraft. Yeah. World of Warcraft is, like, an interesting type of thing because Legend of Zelda was so much fun. Okay, the... I, I feel like for video games, I mean, obviously there are different, there are different criteria we can judge on. Yeah. Ultimately, the metric is simple. Just like in a com... In comedy, ultimately the metric is, is it funny? Yeah. You know, there, there are other things that you can consider, you know, oh, did it make me think? You know, uh, did I remember it? You know, did, did I come away feeling good or did I feel kind of shitty about this? You know, there are different, uh, you know, other things to take into consideration, but the main metric is playability. Fun. Yeah. It's fun. Yeah. Is, is this video game fun? And, you know, is it fun for how long? You know, because some, some games are fun for like, oh, yeah, 10 seconds. Oh, this is super fun. Okay, I'm done. Yeah, exactly. Like Pitfall. I loved playing Pitfall when I was a kid. I remember loving it, but I went and tried to play it, uh, recently and it was like, oh, this is the most repetitive bullshit. I've ever seen. Like, it's just. It's extremely slow Mario. Yeah, exactly. It's totally boring. It's like. It's not fun. It's not fun. In, in about 30 seconds, you're going to come up to that pit. All right. So get ready. Are you ready? Get ready. Get ready. Wait. You're running. You're running. Keep going. You're running. Yeah. Hold on. Okay. Wait. Not yet. Jump on the vine. You're dead. You're dead. You got eaten by a crocodile. Also, you only have three lives. Game over. Insert 50 cents. Yeah. Pretty much. Um, so. What, what's. Okay. But the thing that I liked about Legend of Zelda specifically was what I remember of Legend of Zelda is everything you did had a point. Like, even when you were, you know, killing bad guys or whatever. I did not get that side of it because I never got very far in Legend of Zelda. Oh, really? I found it incredibly difficult. Oh, no. I should preface this entire conversation by saying I'm not very good at video games. I'm not either. Which, which definitely I think affects your judgment. It does. Like. I never beat Super Mario. I never beat Super Mario. I never beat. Um. I never beat Mega Man. I never beat Mega Man. I never beat, um, uh, Metroid. Oh, really? I heard about the awesome ending. You know what I mean? My best. I got to watch it on YouTube years later, but I, I, I never actually beat it. My best friend beat all those games and I would help. I was never able to shoot the dog in Duck Hunt. Oh, I got the dog a couple times. No, um. Yeah, I was just, I had. Not so good. Not so good at video games. All right. So usually when somebody's complaint was, oh, the game's too short. Those are like the only games. You're like, these are the ones I can do. Oh yeah, I got it. I beat Suikoden. I beat a lot of role playing games that you could actually beat. Uh, I, I beat, uh, several like action RPGs. Yeah. Uh, Mandy and I played together, uh, Baldur's Gate and, uh. Oh yeah. Champions of Norath. Those are really, really fun for the, uh, I guess a PS2. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's, those are, those games are all super fun. Those are also games again where I felt like, uh. There was a point to everything. Like even when you were going and fighting dudes, you were fighting dudes to get to a spot. And then once you got to that spot, you had something that you had to accomplish and then you would accomplish that thing and you'd have to go to another spot. Well, I think the, the best thing about those games and, uh, uh, they've tried to integrate this into a lot of games more recently is that the, the fighting becomes the point because fighting ups your stats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the only way to get better and to get good enough, to get tough enough that you can face the later characters. So there is a point to literally every action. Yeah. And that's something that's come across recently in games. Like if you look at Mario, I mean, Mario is, well, he's not binary. He's whatever the three version of that is, trinary, whatever. Anyway, the point is he has three states. He has small, he has big, he has dead. Yeah. I mean, like, that's it. Oh, Fire Mario. That's true. Okay. Yeah. You got Fire Mario. And then later on you get the weird, whatever that suit was supposed to be. What was that suit supposed to be? He's like, oh yeah, it's a raccoon so you can fly. It's like, well, how does that make sense? Why was it a fucking bird suit? Yeah, exactly. Dragon suit, something. Even a flying squirrel. Yeah. But it was like, oh no, no, it's a raccoon suit. Obviously. Yeah, clearly. Raccoons are always flying around. Haven't you heard? Did you hear the tale of the flying raccoon? No. Well, no, because it doesn't exist. Okay. Because that sounded like a southern nightmare. How about your hood, Chet? You don't want to know about that flying raccoon? You want to know about the flying raccoon? Oh, shit, man. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. One night, me and my cousin Jeb. You can unload your .22 into that motherfucker. He going to keep coming and knocking over your trash. He don't do much, but he's pretty annoying. You know what I mean? He just knocks over your shit. Eats your pizza. Your leftover pizza. Loves pizza. Loves pizza. Really, I guess I reckon he's good for the environment if he's eating all that extra pizza. Yeah, I mean, you know, because then there's no pizza to throw on the ground or ruin trees. Because, you know, pizza's constantly ruining trees. But, yeah, okay, you go back to Pitfall and then it's super binary. It is literally you are running, you are dead. I mean, like, that's it. You're just that guy, you know? So, I mean, with Mario, you can hold that thing for a while. You can hold that thing for as long as possible. So, you're really hoping that you can hold on to the fire thing. And as soon as you get touched, you know, ah, I lost it, you know? Now I don't have that fire thing anymore. Okay, but... It was always amazing to me to watch someone who's really good. Oh, just run through like crazy? Yeah, and they're just shooting everything. They know everything is and they're just like, and they just go through it and destroy everything. And they don't get touched once. It's impressive to watch them at that point. Yeah. It's probably not impressive to watch them the hours and hours and hours that they were playing by themselves. Yeah. I did do that with one game. I can totally cop to. Gold and I, I played by myself over and over and over and over again. Yeah. I had so much fun. It was my first experience with the first person. Well, no, it wasn't my first experience with the first person shooters. We had a couple on the computer before that. I played a little Doom and a little Rise of the Triad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ludicrous Jibs. Some people will remember that. Anyway, but yeah, where you shoot somebody and they explode into a bunch of pieces. It's totally pixelated. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, um, that was the first one that looked pretty good though. Yeah. Gold and I was pretty impressive. It looked really good. That was the next step. And I feel like we've barely, I feel, I feel like we've gotten a lot better from that, but we've still not jumped to the next plateau. Yeah. There's something new. And I feel like the next plateau is going to be whenever they get off their ass and fix the Wii and they, or fix the, um, the, um, uh, the PlayStation. I or whatever, the move, the PlayStation connect one or whatever box connect. Yeah. When that actually works, that's when we'll move up to the next plateau. But I feel like Goldeneye was a jump. It was a huge jump. I remember playing it because Halo, that 3D shit, the 3D looking around and having to really, to have to really move like a person almost because I remember the first, I'd say first half hour I played Goldeneye with my friends cause they had like a big party and it was like, let's all go play Goldeneye. Right. You know, there's, there's all four controllers. Everyone's excited. Everybody's drunk eating pizza and shit. And all of our screens were so small because it was cut into fours, but you didn't give a shit. You were just having so much fun shooting your friends and putting on slappers only. Yeah. That was actually the only time I was good because when, uh, when they did the, uh, when they, when the first few half hour, I just ran into the corner and two, I would always end up in a corner looking up and then running into the wall over like the whole time for like 20 minutes. And then someone come and shoot me. And then someone come and shoot me behind in the back of my head. Uh, and I would spawn. At that point it was a mercy killing. And then do it again. You know what I mean? Like almost immediately do it again cause I'd get so confused about trying to look. At that, at that point they're like George shooting Lenny in of mice and man. Yeah. Yeah. They're just putting you out of your misery. Which by the way, we're going to bring that up. What a shitty friend George is. George? Yeah. He does everything for that motherfucker. Yeah. Including shoot him at the end for no real reason. He shoots him to make sure it's humane. They're going to like, they're going to treat him like shit and then hang him. Nah, they just need to go run away. They just need to go run away. That's your solution swallow. Yeah. Fuck that man. I'm not killing my buddy. By the way. And if you do some crazy shit and kill a, kill a blonde broad man, I got your back. I can just put a bullet in your goddamn head. Of course you're not, you're not a big tard. I don't think I need an AC cowlings nor a mercy killer. Yeah. That's a good point. I do need a glove with that jelly in it though. What did you get? What did you get? What did you get? What did you get? What did you get? What did you get? What did you get? A knife touch in hand. Oh shit. Deep cuts. Deep cut. Mice and men cuts. Everybody. Oh, what I was going to ask you guys is, okay, what did you talk about before I got here? Sorry, I'm late. I was doing stuff. We were just talking about comparing old school games versus the new school games. And one of the things I was bringing up was like Legend of Zelda compared to say World of Warcraft or, you know, and when we were talking about how, when it comes down to it, it's just like, how much fun are you having? Right. Well, I mean, I never was a big journey in a game guy. I recently became like... I finished Red Dead Redemption and it was really cool because I felt like I really was that guy to the point where I, when I got to the end, I was like, oh my God, you dirty sumbitches. I want to... Ah! I felt that. I really felt it playing the game and I was immersed. But most of the time I just kind of play like a sandbox games where I can go around and do whatever the hell I want. I'm much more of that kind of player too. A pick up and play. I like shooters. I like fighting games. I like games where I can sit down for 30 minutes. Play the game. Shoot as a game. Turn my brain off for a little while and then go back to doing what I need to do in life. Yeah. Right. Well, you know, the weird thing is I'm not a big shooter guy because I feel like if I'm going to play a video game of something, I don't necessarily want to have the restrictions of real life of playing that. So I would love to have a shootout with some motherfuckers if I can certainly get omniscient all of a sudden or see my body outside of the bodies and see the people coming at me at different angles or whatever. Or access security cameras or whatever kind of cool shit you can do in a video game. Jump up the wall or whatever. Yeah. I feel like that's way more valuable than kind of just running around in rooms and going through doorways and shooting other people. It's like, and plus I suck at it. So yeah, I should kind of fucking preface my comment with that. I do fucking suck at first person shooters. Yeah, we were just talking about how bad at games we are. The last one I was good at was time splitters. If that gives you a fucking timeframe of how the last time I was good at a first person shooter. That's because of the variety of weapons. And I didn't necessarily pick super kill you up weapons, but I got really awesome at like the double SBPs that you could fucking snipe people with automatic fire from hella far away. That's awesome. If you just got your nice strafe on, you could fuck them up. I just started a couple months ago playing Modern Warfare 3 and I'm loving the fuck out of it. Is everything destroyable for lack of a better word? No, the environment isn't completely interactive, but there's enough interactive shit. It makes it really fun. You'll be playing a survival thing where it's just you versus different waves and waves of guys. Like they'll send a wave and then you'll have like 30 seconds to rest and like go pick up ammo and stuff like that. And then 30 seconds, some more guys will come. So you'll be in the little respite time, just like upping your armor and stuff like that, spending money going like, I'm okay. And then a truck that's been on fire because it's engine got shot the fuck up. Blows up and kills you. And you're like, oh shit, I should have noticed that that fucking truck was on fire. But yeah, so it's got some cool stuff like that. It does have a destructible environment. That's one thing I really liked about Red Dead Redemption. I mean, a lot of people, I don't know, a lot of people talked about it for a second because it was GTA with Westerns. But I really got to say what was really dope about it was like, I'm chilling out. I'm a bounty hunter, right? So I'm bounty hunting. I'm going out to shoot these dudes and I'm chilling out by this fucking like cactus on top of this hill. They pay you money for that? Yeah. I'm a hill jango reference. Thank you. So I'm on the hill jangling and I'm about to fucking shoot this dude when a fucking cougar, a video game cougar runs up and kills me from behind. And I'm like, what the fuck? Well, how did a 50 year old white bitch get out here? No, but seriously, this fucking video game cougar that's just roaming around this weird algorithm or logarithm or whatever the fuck rhythm, this fucking randomization of fucking elements roaming around kills me. So I'm trying to kill somebody. And it was like cosmic justice. And when I was playing Red Dead Redemption, one last Red Dead Redemption thing, obviously you can see I really liked the game. As far as immersiveness, I was playing that motherfucker and like this bitch, right? She tried to steal my horse. Okay. This bitch tried to steal my horse. And so like I lassoed her up and I tied her and stuff. And I started wiping my blade over her, like trying to slash her, but I couldn't slash her because this shit wasn't programmed right. But I kneeled down next to her head and I pressed the slash button. And this was the moment. This motherfucker pulled her head back and slit her throat. I was like, God damn, this game can do anything. Oh, this is so awful that this game could do what I wanted. That's what I wanted to do. That's literally what I wanted to do. And I couldn't have done it if they didn't allow it. Yeah. I'm saying it's creepy. Well, now I remember when the first... This is the scariest I've ever been of Ed. I remember when the first Diablo. That's what I wanted to do. That's what I wanted to do. I wanted to cut this white bitch's throat. They usually don't let me. They usually don't let me. They usually don't let you do that. But just tell my God. I didn't say she was white. She could have been an Indian, but she wasn't. She totally wasn't. And then I just throw that in there because I thought it was funny. And then do you guys remember when... That was one of the things they talked about when the first Diablo came out was that things are still happening. That was one of the weirdest things for people was like, you leave the game and there are still wolves dying. And things getting stronger and weird beasts and stuff getting better out there. I don't remember what the first game was that did that, but it was something for like, I think PlayStation 1. It was around that time. That was when my girlfriend was big on playing RPGs. Some Final Fantasy type game, Ranma, blah, blah, blah. And yeah, she basically... The first time that ever happened to her, she's like, what the fuck? I don't know. I don't know. I paused or whatever, or just left it saying whatever and just went to the mall and came back and it's like, oh yeah, that village is dead. What? No, no. Yeah, but having real life consequence or not real life consequences, obviously, but this isn't fear.com or whatever it is. Pretend real life consequences. Well, no, that's why I really like Rockstar games, dude. I mean, I know I sound like somebody who just got into video games real hardcore recently, and that's pretty fucking true. Except for like back in the days, I played all the sports games. I played all the games everybody played. We're going to talk about sports games in a little bit too. I played all those things. But the real deal was when I started playing, GTA blew my brain out. GTA 3. It blew a lot of brains out. Yeah. GTA as a thing though, as a party game, we had that game. It was like a bootleg game. I didn't even know that it was made by a real company or whatever. It was like literally... It was like a... Are you talking about the original, the top down? Yeah. The top down one. So much fucking fun. That was like a rapper's mixtape. We used to pass that motherfucker around and be like, oh, that's a good one. Yeah. We were like, look at this shit though. At this point, those graphics... Do you remember Laser Suit Lazy? Those graphics were basically... Laser Suit Larry? Yeah. I don't remember that. You can do all kinds of crazy shit with that. It's the game where you're trying to get laid. Yeah. But the original GTA, I was going to say, the graphics on that, talking about old school games, it basically is what a Google game would be now. Right. If like, oh, hey, it's GTA's birthday. And you could just play the original GTA when you click on the O in Google. You know what I mean? Exactly. It's that simple. And just running over random people. And just running around and you're shooting nuns. Yeah. You're... It's what you were doing. It's like you're in Bond, but instead of being Bond, you're just an asshole. Right. But just the freedom. I felt so good that, okay, what's the point of this game? Get the cops mad at you. How do you do that? Do whatever you want. When the cops get mad at you, what do you do? Run and shoot them and run. And if they try to do roadblocks, what do you do? Bust them. They usually don't let you do that, but I like to run them. You know what I'm saying? And me and my boys started to... I remember the first Fametti of those games, like Fametti or Machinima, whatever you want to call it, that shit where it's like you take video game footage. We used to make dope as mixed taste of us doing ill fucking GTA shit. And all of a sudden you start seeing it on the internet. We had an idea to do a GTA movie, like a GTA 3 movie, like fucking years ago, right when it came out. Because I started playing and people started looking at the... And we ran it through the VCR and one day a dude taped my shit. He was like, that shit is tight. And I started performing the stuff. He was literally... Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three was the first time I went to Liberty City. I liked that one a lot. Yeah. I bought a PlayStation 2 to play GTA. Vice City. Vice City was a jump though. Oh yeah. Vice City jumped up where when you were in a fucking stolen car and you could switch different fucking radio stations. Oh my God. Yeah, I remember that. That was brilliant. Yeah. And get a blow job and then beat the hooker and take the money back. Well, dude. Just the whole thing of like you had a real progression in your story. You became a kingpin of the city. And I love the fact that you could get those slow-mo pills and chop cops heads off. I chopped two, three SWAT dudes heads off of one swipe of the sword and punched their bodies over the car with my adrenaline strength. It was just great. That... See, no. This is too much of my psyche though. This is too much of my psyche right now. Yeah. For real. The story... Ed wants to kill some fucking cops. The story of GTA I never got into though because I always treated it as a... I always treated that as a pick up and play game. But that was because I was a little spoiled because my brother was playing it. So I did the exact same thing I did with SimCity, which is I would just play from his continued game and not save it. Right, right, right. And so I would have whatever weapons he had, whatever. And then I'd just go around, get the cops really pissed at me, make them drive off of cliffs and stuff like that, trick them into going off of cliffs like Smokey and the Bandit style. You know, just shoot at a bunch of people and go like... And after about 15, 30 minutes of that, I'm like... Well, I'm spent. You know, turn off, don't save, whatever. And then he's got his game. And I did the same thing with SimCity. I used to wait until he had built up these gigantic cities like they were all running like clockwork. And then I'd send in, you know, the hurricanes and Godzilla and everything that you were allowed to do. To me, that's what... To me, I think that that's what video games are to me. And I think it's one of those things where when I like to play sports games, right, I can drop off into a well when I'm playing a sports game. I can just be gone for a while. What sport is that? Like, I played... Like ice fishing? Dropping off into a well? Well, you know... I bet they have an ice fishing game. I think spelunking is a sport. It's probably part of the Wii sports. Yeah, baby Jessica was the... Some people were yelling at me yesterday that golf is not a sport. Tiger Woods golf is a fucking sport, man. Tiger Woods golf for the Wii is a sport. I'm not saying that golf is a sport. I'm saying that video game is a fucking sport. The first time I ever played... The first time I ever played... The first time I ever played... I played that motherfucker. I played with my buddy for like five hours. It was fun as shit. And then because I had never golfed in my life because I don't have any money, I was so fucking sore for like a week with muscles that I didn't know I had because I never needed to swing a fucking golf club before. Right. That game... That's hilarious. I got an injury playing a sports game. That's hilarious, man. Wii is awesome. Because, I don't know, did you play Double Dribble? Yes, I did play Double Dribble. I fucking loved Double Dribble. Every time you dunked it went in the black and white. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was fucking awesome. Because you just like posterized somebody. I mean, and the sports, the real deal is like you know you're getting old when the sports games are too complicated. Yeah, they've gotten to a point where it's like... Madden right now is too complicated. I just can't fuck with it. At this point, aren't you managing your players' rap careers at this point, right? Well, you can do all that kind of so-called immersive stuff, but like it's weird. But the game itself is weird. It's really fucking hard now. Every Madden I've ever even seen, I've been like... You have to catch the ball yourself. Not for me. You have to... What are they, Pokemon? No, you have to catch the ball yourself. Oh, catch the ball yourself. I thought you said catch the mall yourself. I was like, is that how you get your players in Madden? You know, like, I mean, it's... Your brain just put a block on all football talk. That's hilarious. It's true. I was a big player of NFL Blitz. I understand. The last game, the last football game I remember really enjoying was... NFL Blitz, I think it was like 2002 or something like that. I have some old school Madden I liked. Super fun. Oh, yeah. Could never get into Madden. 2K5, I think it is. Or Tecmo Bowl. Tecmo Bowl. I love Tecmo Bowl. People are kind of glossing over Tecmo Bowl. Tecmo Bowl was like... It had like four plays you could choose from. Offense, defense, four plays. That's all you got. Do one of these four plays each time. Vary it up enough to move the ball down the field. If you have somebody like Bo Jackson, the dudes would just literally pop off of him like popcorn. When they tried to tackle him, they'd just like, boop, boop, boop. Just pop off. And if you managed to pick the other team's play, your defensive line would literally blow up their offensive line. They would pop off like bullets out of Superman's chest. And you would rush the quarterback and kill him because you basically picked their play. So that was the way you would win. You would do something that was exactly their play. You would pick their play. That's how you would play defense. So one thing I like about Madden is when you... Basically. One of the things I like about Madden is that if you know football... Because, you know, obviously I can't fucking play football. Right. I weigh 100 pounds. I weigh 100 pounds. I weigh 130 pounds. But if you watch football... But if you know football and you know it... You understand what the plays are. You can call defenses that work better. You can call offenses that work better. You can vary up stuff to really confuse like whoever you're playing or the actual computer that you're playing. And that may be why I could never get into those games. The more complicated baseball games I did stick with for a little while. Okay. Hmm. I like... Because you like... The trading was okay, but I never was really that much into it except that I would... I would do things like make teams of like all brothers. Like, oh, okay, well, there's three of these guys that are all brothers. I was like, okay, well, I'm going to get them all on one team. That's what you use your omniscient powers for. You'd have three families. So they have a family of teams. And that would be the entire team. Anyway. Why don't you just play... Why don't you play Mormon baseball? I believe you're referring to baseball. No, but yeah. I didn't say Dominican baseball. Which is what baseball is. Yeah. But no, I was saying like the new basketball game, dude, it's right on the borderline, bro. Yeah, it's hard. Of being too complicated. The new 2K13 basketball game. First of all, it is the best representation of basketball I've ever played. Besides, you know, out in the street hurting my knees. You know, it's the best because you can do whatever you would like. Like, dude, that game is so complicated. You can travel. You can travel. You can double dribble. You can dribble the ball off your leg. You can kick the ball. You have to control where the ball is. What hand it's in. And you do your dribble moves accordingly. You have to control when you release your shot. Whether it's at the top of your jump with the most likelihood of going in. Or whether at the bottom when you do a little razzle-dazzle because he's trying to block your shit. You literally have control over when you release the ball. When you take it up. When you dribble it. When you pass it. It's fucking amazing, dude. But it gets to a point where it's like, oh, I don't know. You know what I mean? See, okay. But I think you can play all of them on simpler things, right? Oh, yeah. You can put it... You can put like auto, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. The mode that I put it on. Honestly, I haven't won a game in three days. Wow. Like for real. The mode that I play it on. I love... It's infuriating, but it's awesome. I lose by like three points. It's infuriating, but at the same time, you're like, oh, this makes me want to play it more. Yeah, and it makes you better. When I play people, they get destroyed. When I play people, they get destroyed. Now, let me ask you... The computer is killing me. Let me ask you a question real quick. You're playing that game. Mm-hmm. Would you prefer a game... That exact game that you're playing, except that you've got magical powers. So like... All the other players, you can like fly up there and then like dunk the ball on them from half court and stuff like that. Would you prefer if they added that shit to it? My guess is no, because you think that that would completely corrupt it and make it not fun anymore, right? I think it's a weird bit of hypocrisy with me. It's like, I think that that would totally ruin a basketball game. However, I hate being constricted to my personal point of view in a shooting game. I find it ridiculous. You knew exactly where I was going. I was going with that. Yeah. I hate in shooting games when there's stuff that like... I don't like Halo because I don't like all the alien weapons. Right, right, right. I'm like, I want to play a game. And this is the thing, and it goes into that same thing of like having some understanding of that. Yeah. I like weapons. I like weapons. Like, as far as I'm concerned, I mean, for most of us, fucking action movies, that's fantasy. That's part... That's a genre of fantasy. Mm-hmm. Because I don't ever pick up guns and shoot them. You know what I mean? Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. I picked up guns when I was a kid. I learned gun safety, all this stuff. You know, I'm from the fucking South, but I'm saying like, I don't ever use guns. I don't have the money to even expend one... So that's enough fantasy for you to actually have a real gun. I don't have the money to expend one drum of an AA-12, but I know exactly what it is. I know how it works. You know what I mean? Stuff like that. So yeah, I'm interested in that stuff. I like that. I know, okay, well, this gun will work better in this situation. You know, all those little intricacies, I really enjoy. That's one of the... Fighting games, though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love when... I mean, I played... We played the UFC, and that's really fun. It's a little more accurate. There's not a lot of ridiculous bullshit in it. But I also, in fighting games, love when you're... You can turn upside down and do a helicopter kick. No, I like when a game's fighting physics are consistent and it's enjoyable. Like Arkham City, to me, everybody liked Arkham City because it had like detective elements, it had a story and this and that, blah, blah. Honestly, I just like to roll around. I don't want to fuck dudes up. That free flow combat was so good. It was so sick. Especially Catwoman. Yeah, it was so sick. Catwoman got even better. You didn't think it could get better than fighting with Batman. It's like, oh yeah, fight as Catwoman where you can like throw little... I've never even tried Catwoman out. They look like Jacks. I don't remember what they're called. They're called Macabishi. Anyway. In real life, they're ninja. Real life. In real life, real life ninjas. In real life, the ninjas that are hanging out right now in the studio. It's basically... Circle K. It's basically a little metal ball with some spikes. It's got spikes on it. Yeah. She like throws them on the ground and then guys step on them and fall off. Whatever. Yeah. And then she jumps on them and kisses them and breaks their neck. They're called Trollops or Calops, Caltrops or some stupid shit. Caltrops, yeah. But anyway, like, I don't know. I didn't like fighting with her because I like to fuck people up. With like Batman, you could like... An elbow would like really shiver somebody and fuck their whole shit up. But like Catwoman, she's like hitting them like 52 times. I like playing with Nightwing for hitting fools a lot because he had two sticks that were kind of rubbery. You could see him even bend as he was like... It would occasionally go into slow-mo so you could see the stick a little bit bending from the force of him and then just pow! You know what I'm saying? Hitting somebody in the neck and the knees and the elbows and the face in that order with some sticks and then kicking him off a ledge, you know, to their chest. I never played the Nightwing on that. That's awesome. Nightwing, if you liked that Catwoman bullshit, you will really like Nightwing. Nightwing was like... Yeah, I bet I'd love it. Nightwing was like Batman but faster. Like almost as strong as Batman, faster than Batman or Catwoman and like really able to fuck fools up. Like really agile. Running up and down walls, like running off walls to do like body slams and stuff. Oh, that sounds fun as hell. I'm going to try that at some point. Yeah, that's awesome. Let's get to that. So, and then here's the thing. Are old video games even fun anymore compared to after you've played all of these games? Well, that's the weird thing. If you look at phone games, I mean, phone games are basically like they've jumped back to like Nintendo. Like first they were Atari. Yeah. I mean, with like that snake and shit. Right. Think about all the times you played Snake on your fucking computer. Yeah, like a 50 bar phone. Tetris and Traffic. Tetris and Traffic. Tetris has never stopped being fun. No. Tetris will continue. Tetris may be the perfect little simple video game, whatever. It's so simple to do. And unfortunately for that guy, the guy with the really long Russian name that I can never remember. The guy who invented it. Unfortunately, it's very easy to rip off. So he did not get all the money that he deserved. He didn't get nothing. He didn't get nothing. He didn't get nearly the amount of rubles he should have gotten. How about on racing games? He should have gotten four times as many rubles. You guys play racing games? I play, and this is another piece of hypocrisy. This is me going in and out of Magic Land. I like racing games, but when you start doing this, 455H cams and you got to put this type of engine in your car and do this and do that. It's like, all right, you lost me, gearhead. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do any of that either. The only racing game that I, okay, I take it back. I liked Donkey Kong or now, what do you, Mario Kart. Okay. I liked Mario Kart. Everybody liked Mario Kart, right? It's fun. The fucking Nintendo people know how to make a video game fun. There's a girl I know who has a tattoo of Toad in a Mario Kart. Oh, wow. That's awesome. Yeah, she's goddamn adorable. You should bring her on the show. I'll ask her if she wants to. We'll talk video games and tattoos. Yeah. I don't know whether those things have to do with each other. Probably. But I loved, let me tell you this. I loved Rad Racer. I fucking loved Rad Racer. And one, I was good at it. So that helped. And Excitebike, I fucking destroyed Excitebike. Yeah. I could get through everything. I could make the most complicated. I'd make shit that was so hard when you could make your own track. Oh, yeah. Excitebike was the one where you could make like- It was so fun to make your own track. I'm going to make a jump and then I'm going to follow it by a jump and then I'm going to follow it by a bigger jump. Yeah. I mean, there weren't that many options. And then I have to go through- It was still pretty fun. A bunch of things. And then you have to do it in just enough time to give yourself the cool down thing because your bike would overheat. Oh, that's right. Yeah. That was fun. As I spit food out of my mouth. But you know, I used to play, I'll tell you how far back I go. I'd like the games like Highway Rider and like Hang On. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hang On was so cool because basically it was the ground shifting beneath you. You weren't really progressing forward. Just the ground would bend and twist. And you're a guy, you'd have to position him in the right lean for whatever terrain. The terrain chose to be at that moment. Yeah. You never really got this sensation you were moving forward ever. You just got this sensation of, all right, I better be leaning. I better be leaning. I better be leaning. And I think Highway Rider is almost a perfect game. Highway Rider for iPhone, it made me think briefly about getting an iPhone because like literally you just hold the phone and tilt it different ways and you're a guy rocketing through traffic. And as you- Oh, they just use the gyroscope in the phone? They use the gyroscope in the phone and it's like, it's got a burnout type of engine in it where as you close call stuff, the closer you get to nicking an object, the more speed you get. The more speed you get, the more objects you can get close to. And it's an engine. And you just get faster, faster, faster. And you get faster and faster and faster from the thos and you build up boosts in addition to those. So should you run a little bit dry of those type of boosts, you can get some more boosts and just, it's insane. And I heard people can play it for like literally 10 hours and all the changes is the rain and it gets harder and harder to not crash into shit. Yeah. Man, I already said, I liked Mario Kart. The other racing game that I was big into was Rock and Roll Racing. And that was this- I vaguely remember that one. That was this game for the Super Nintendo. It was made by Interplay and Blizzard. Okay. So it was the people who made Lost Vikings, tons of stuff back in the day. So it's basically, it's the future and there are different alien planets and your cars have weapons. So there's like missiles, there's lasers, there's mines, there's oil slicks. It was so much fucking fun. And it was basically like Super Off-Road. It was that thing where it was that three- Oh, Super Off-Road was my shit. Yeah, it was like a tilted- I played Super Off-Road so much. I played that arcade so much. I played that arcade so much. I spent so much money on Super Off-Road. Imagine that exact thing. Yeah, that engine more or less. But like- With missiles and- With bikes that look like they're from Death Race 2000 or sorry, cars that look like- They're from Death Race 2000 with missiles and shit. And it was so much fun. Oh, it was called Rock and Roll Racing because they paid for all these classic rock songs. So you'd be playing to like, you'd be racing around to like Paranoid and- Nice. Deep Purple and shit. Highway Star. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was so much fucking fun. I don't know how many hours I played that with my brother. That's awesome. But how many- I want us to tell some stories just so it could be personal. It's not, you know, it's all personal. It's been- I'm like, oh, I love this game. I love that game. Yeah. Do you have any stories of like how a game kind of changed your perception, and I will start, of like people or something? Because like, or like games that kind of brought you into people and something happened? Because I remember Bad Dudes. Yes. It's like a fighting game. You're two dudes in gray pants and black shirts and you beat people up for some reason. The president's daughter has been kidnapped. Right, right. So they pick two dudes in t-shirts and gray pants to kick people's ass manually. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, because no guns. The Secret Service could never get this shit. Yeah, we got to pick the bad dudes. Call those two dickheads who drove by all the way here. The bad dudes, right? So like, long story short, I see this dude, this grown up, this real deal grown up with a trench coat on and he's got a business suit on and shit, and this motherfucker's playing him some bad dudes. He's doing it on bad dudes. And I'm like, oh shit, I always get to play with these inferior children. I get to play with this dude. So I throw my quarter and I'm about to play with him. He's like, hey kid, I don't want you playing with me. And he had a gravelly Batman voice. Hey kid, I don't want you playing with me. And I was just like, oh man. And he's like. And then you turned and he was gone. Dude, dude, no, check it out. He threw a smoke bomb. But then he starts playing and he starts getting fucked. He kind of like just boxes me out from the machine and he starts playing. And then he gets fucked up and loses one of his men and he presses the fucking button and takes my man. What? He takes my fucking man. He took my quarter. That's fucked up. For his fucking shit. What a shit bag. All I'm saying is that dude, that was a bad dude. That was a bad dude. That was a bad dude. That's awesome. Maybe we should put him in that video game. See how he does. I think he'd get fucked up. All Matrix style. But yeah. Well, playing video games is one of those things. And I hate that this is going away. This is one thing that I don't like about new videos. I love that at any time, like at 2 a.m. I'm like, I want to play some fucking modern warfare. Find some Asian kids online to play modern warfare with at any time of day, 24-7. That's fucking cool. But the thing that you lose is not having that person in the room with you playing. I was going to mention that. And I don't know how many hours we spent having those just shit talk fests, playing fucking GoldenEye. Oh my God. Street Fighter. Where you had five fucking people so you knew if you had the low score, you were sitting out the night. You were sitting out the night. You were sitting out the night. Oh my God. That was the shit. I was the guy sitting out every time. Playing fighting games. My wife was better at GoldenEye than I was. Oh man. I can't believe you even said that in fucking public. Jesus Christ, Ron. It sucked. But yeah, like playing, oh my God, Perfect Dark had that thing where it was like, you could play co-op against just bots that would just come and come and come and come. So I don't know how many hours I spent playing video games with my brother. And that was, that was bonding time. Yeah, exactly. Because you could sit there and get like, once you're getting into the rhythm of whatever and you're using teamwork and it's fun or whatever, and then you could just have a conversation. You know what I mean? You couldn't have a conversation while you were playing football. I mean, video games were the fishing of our youth. Yes, that's exactly it. They were the fishing of our youth. They were just like, okay, here's what we're going to do. Drop the mic, Ed. Yeah, if it would get cold, like I'm from New Mexico, so sometimes it gets cold and me and my best friend, we'd normally play some kind of sport, play basketball, play football, you know, whatever we're going to do. Maybe we just run around and hit each other with sticks, whatever it was going to do. You know what I mean? Oh my God. I played Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles also. Oh yes, exactly. And so, so, you know, during those times when it's warm, we'd go do that, but it'd get cold in New Mexico, like 30 degrees cold. So that was video game time. And you could do that together and be friends together. And just like you said, I'd be double dribble and Lance would kick my ass consistently. And every once in a while, every once in a while, I would beat him and he'd have to be like, good game, good game. You know what I mean? And it was like, you know, and then sometimes you could play games together. Like we would, you do, we do Contra. Oh man. You know, those Contra parties. And Smash TV. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there was a bunch of games you could play together, which was really cool. You could go out together. Oh my God, the X-Men arcade game. Awesome. It seems like amongst the dope games, that's going away a little bit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can play it with each other and it's cool. That's what I'm saying. For you to be in the house together playing it. It seems like that's going away. Now it's like you could just be at other houses. No one's driving to hang out with each other anymore to play video games. And you know what's messed up? Rockstar, please, for GTA, make that motherfucker two player. It would be really easy. How fun would that be too? It would be really easy for you to do the screen right to kind of just see what. I'll give you one more. You ready for this? Skyrim. Make Skyrim two player split screen. You're both living your own crazy fucking lives and you can interact with each other. You can interact when you want to. Oh my God, that would be the perfect fucking game. You can import and suddenly you're in the same world as somebody else, whatever. It'd be like, it would be. And then when you need help, you're like, please come help me. It would be what World of Warcraft wants to be. Yeah. Well, and also that's almost like dimension hopping. I can go to your planet, you can go to my planet. Yes. I make it two player and let's all start hanging out and playing video games because by the way, I don't know if you know my plan. Once we get up to enough downloads, which we know how long it'll take, but we will, I want to talk to Gamefly and say, hey, we'll advertise for you and what we'll do is we'll rent video games and we'll play them together and we'll go play video games together and then we'll do video game reviews and there'll be like a 10 minute chunk of every episode where we talk about like, oh, yeah, we played this video game together. We got it from Gamefly because Gamefly is rad. And what would be dope is like all the reviews, like people would know, like if you gave it a bad review, that means it's like hard to like move around and do stuff. Yeah, exactly. If I give it a bad review, it's got magic and it's whack. If Matt gives it a bad review, then, you know, it's not got enough shotguns in it. Shotguns aren't accurate enough. Yeah. And also it'll be fun. and it just makes a little pal symbol instead of blood coming out of them. Yeah, and then we can play video games together too. Yeah, I shot you with a slug. That's supposed to be like a dinner plate size hole. I saw it with my daddy. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Bullshit. Where's the exit wound? Where's the exit wound? Okay, well, we got 50 seconds here. In short, hardware obviously got much better. Graphics got much better. But we're kind of moving into an insular thing. And that's one thing that we'd like to bring back about the old video games. We'd like to be side by side, shit talking with buddies playing the games. Agreed. Agreed. And the sports games still sort of do that. So yay, sports games. Yeah. And now Ed Greer destroys on Twitter. I'm Matt Blackwood on Twitter and listen to my podcast, What Were We Talking About on iTunes. And you know us, Monday, every Monday, although actually now we're dropping every Wednesday on iTunes, Angry Dorks. And you can listen to it live Saturday and Sunday at 12, or 11 to 12 noon. And then also, I have a show March 24th at Flappers at 9 p.m. Come check it out. Yay. And friend us on Facebook. Yeah. And Angry Dorks pod at Twitter. Okay, bye. Bye. Scruffy dog harder. Scruffy dog harder. Scruffy dog harder. Scruffy dog harder. Scruffy dog harder.