Jessie Dubai, Savannah Thorne, and Cyrus discuss fetish play and relationships

Thank you. Thank you. Hello. It's Jessie Dubai. Beautiful star. Adult star. Jessie, come on. Have a seat over there. Thank you. Have a seat over there. And have a seat next to Al's belt. Yes, that's right. And you brought a special guest, too. Yes, I brought my girlfriend. That's your girlfriend? Very nice. Let me go ahead and... Actually, Nicole, if you can sort of... If we can kind of get her way... Yeah. We're going to need a little space later. Of course. I'm trying to get him on. Okay, so I guess... No, Jenny's going to do it. Jenny's going to do it. Okay. So anyway, so... When I started the show in 2013, Jessie, the wonderful, beautiful woman to your left, Al's belt was my original co-host. And we got into all sorts of fun shenanigans. She danced on the table for the guitar player for Ministry and the guitar player for The Temptations. We... She... What else did you do? You... Oh, you gave me a lap dance once. I did splits. You did splits? You did... You were painted like... You were a clown. You got choked. And also, you know, this is all... This is... You were on maybe less than 10 shows, probably five or six. That's all that happened. I completed that all in that time. It's always... You want to make sure... You got to get the mic a little closer now. And the guy that's frantically working to Hell's Bell's left, and we're going to get into this, is her new boyfriend. This is a match made in fetish heaven. I've known these two separately for a long time, and I don't know when they met, but he's the master of feathers. I don't know if you saw. Some of the pictures I posted. This is Cyrus. Cyrus? Hey, how you doing, Mark? You got Jessie Dubai and Jessie's girlfriend. Jessie's girl. What is your name? I'm Savannah Thorne. Savannah Thorne? Okay. Oh, Jessie's girl. Yeah, that's Jessie's girl. Anyway, so we might as well get into it. We're going to start today with... By the way, go to Do Me Some Cooking. Go to Audible. If you go to darkmarkshow.com, and I'm going to post coupons tomorrow for adamandeve.com and adamail.com because we're sponsored by both. Adam and Eve, as Hells Bell undoubtedly knows, the number one adult toy store on the net. Adam Mail, the number one gay adult toy store on the net, and I'm not really sure what the difference is, but we'll have deals on vibrators all over the place. Jessie Dubai, I've been doing a lot of research on you. Have you? I didn't know you had a girlfriend. Well, first off, you're from Colorado. Yes. And you still live in Colorado. I still do. Me too. You do? Oh, girl, we need to meet some time. We used to both live in Westminster, Colorado. Oh, nice. Not at the same time. Not at the same time. It was a whole thing. And you still live in Colorado. Yes, I always come home. I don't know. How do you get into the adult business being in Colorado? I mean, San Fernando Valley, we know how that goes, but is there a big adult... Not at all. That's why it was hard for me to achieve, and for me, it still amazes me that I've gone to where I've gone, like coming from Colorado, because there's no adult industry, especially for transsexuals. Right. There is a big company, I think, in Boulder, and everyone keeps telling me that, but I'm like, I never heard about it. I didn't either. Thank you. Oh, by the way, by the way, Jessie Dubai is transsexual. I don't know if you're... Oh, yes. You got the best of both worlds. You got beautiful boobies, a wonderful feminine body, and you got a dick. Yes. Yes, I noticed that. And it's an age-old functional. Just putting it out there. No, just kidding. No, she's a part of the Mile High Club. I've heard the stories. I did the research. Yes. Yes. And so, is that ever coming off, or is that staying on? Well, if it's fully functional, I get rid of it. Exactly. Yes, exactly. I don't know. Before I was into porn, or before I was sexually active with my front, I wanted to, like, have sex, just be a girl, you know? Sexually active with your front? Yes, like, I was always a girl. Like, my relationships was, like, me giving oral, and then, like, bending over, and that was me. That was, like, what I thought I was supposed to do. Like, whatever. I liked it, because that's what I wanted. That's what all the girls I date tell me what to do. That's what they tell me to do. That's not what you're supposed to do? I guess there's more to it, because then once I started, like, experimenting with, like, more guys that are like, no, now you do me, I was like, oh, I can do that? Really? Okay. And then I started trying. Look at that. I know, right? And I was like, okay, like, I like this. So, I don't know, maybe down the road, once I'm tired of it, once I already got the most fun out of it, I'll be like, I guess I'm ready to settle down and just, you know, relax my life as a full, completely woman. Okay, well, let me know when that happens. We'll get the surgery at the same time. Meanwhile, I said, talked about your dick. We already have a caller. Caller, we're on the Dark Mark show. What's going on? Hey, how you doing? Who is this? This is Keith from New York. You know Keith from New York? Hi, Keith. How are you? Well, on Twitter, I'm, I'm, my handle is I'm tight. Say that again? His handle is on something. I don't know. I am tight. Okay. His handle on Twitter. His handle on Twitter is he's tight. Okay. His handle on Twitter is that he's tight. And let me ask you this. How tight are you? Oh, just check your protege's last, I just posted a video on your protege's Twitter of me taking one of my toys. Oh, I have to go and check it out. He's tight. I did it. He might know the difference between Adam male and Adam. Probably does. You might know. How about if you tell us from the toys that you have tried, which one makes your butt like stretch more and which one helps it, you know, keep it tight. I, I, I like the stretch. The best thing about me is that I bounce back pretty fast. So I, you know, I'll take the stretch. I'll take a little. That's what they all say. Uh huh. What's the biggest thing you have up there? Uh, must be my, uh, my nine inch, my three inch. Really? Don't tell me that I can be you fisting myself. Oh my gosh. I thought you guys were better than me. Cause I'm learning from my fans. A lot of the things that my fans do that they tell me they like doing. I'm like, I want to know why they like, so I'm going to go and try it myself. And I can't believe like I'm better at like, you know, I can fit myself. Hey Keith, what would you like Jesse Dubai to do to you? Uh, every single thing imaginable. I just want to be tired. Really? So that means that if I want right now, I can just show up in your house, throw you in the ground, in the floor and just like start writing your face, shove my cock dip in your throat. Uh, maybe flip you over and shove my cock there. Just spit on it. Not even loop. Make it hurt. Would you like that? In your Christmas morning? Uh, turn you around and just fuck you hard. Uh, like a little bitch while I struck your cock. Until I make you cum. Sounds like Christmas. Uh, is that what you like? Well, you know where to look for me and you know how much I charge. No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Merry Christmas to everybody. She's going to make it snow. I keep trying to get you to follow me on Twitter, but you never do. Oh my God. Well, if I haven't followed you, maybe it's because I can't follow more people, but I will go and follow you right now. You have been looking on my Twitter right now. I am going to go to your page and send you a message and actually, I just, I just, I just, I'm going to write on the post right now to me that call that you just followed me. Oh, that's okay. Thank you. Cause I have like so many, that's the thing with people that sometimes when they talk to me, I have so many people telling me like, I am talking to you on Twitter and there's so many people talking to me on Twitter that it's really hard to mix and match like which one goes with what. But if you send me. My Twitter picture is a picture of me in a white thong and a fishnet stockings. Perfect. And his handle is I am tight. And his handle is I am tight. I will look for I am tight. I'm going to tweet you right now. Thank you. Yes, tweet me and I will follow you right now. All right, Keith. I'll call you. I'll try to call back again if I can get you. Of course. We'll be waiting for your call. All right, my love. My love. Thanks for calling. Thank you for calling. And now he just came. And so, Hells Bell. This is Hells Bell and Cyrus. I've known you two separately for a long time. Yes. And you, Hells Bell, were just about to give up on men altogether. Yes. And your last trip in LA. Now, when did you two first meet? I've actually known him for over a year. Right. And how we met is, I don't know, you can tell the story. It's an unusual story. With you two, I'm not surprised. No, it's not like that. It was from a bad point to a good point. And that's where we're at right now. Right. Something that, something grew. So, but I've, I, me personally, I've known him for like over a year. Right. Yeah, it was, it's a really unusual story because we worked or performed in the same clubs and venues and I'd never met her out there. So, you know. You noticed her? No, I've never seen her. Oh, okay. I saw the pictures after she friended me on Facebook and then some time went on and then some stuff happened and I just started talking to her because she was going through a hard, time. And I had gone through similar injuries and stuff. So, we just started talking from there, you know. Right. And we grew friendship and she. I was going to say it sounds like a nice, healthy relationship. As nice and healthy. They saw mutual respect and admiration. Two, two, between two. Yeah, it actually happened in a good way. Between two, very sexual, very freaky, very. Well, Natalie makes it more fun. Exactly. And so, I mean, so it just recently, it just recently blossomed into a relationship. I know because they posted on Facebook five times a day, every day. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. Which will tell you. That's his fault. And trust me, from, from, I mean, from people, I mean, the sex must be mind-blowing, I would imagine, between the two of you. Right. When we can bank. Right. Beyond. But, and Cyrus is, is the master of feathers. Now, last time you were on the show, a couple things I forgot to ask about the feathering. And have you seen the, I mean, I showed you your picture, but have you seen it live in the clubs? I have actually. I don't, well, I go to a lot of different fetish parties like you do, although we're rarely at the same ones. And when we are, we take a selfie. So you always know me and Mark have been at the same party. But, yeah, I've seen his work. Yeah. So it's, if you've been to any fetish party in LA and you see women walking around with the feathers, you've seen his work. Women and men. I mean, he, you love the bald head. You love all that stuff. Oh, yeah. I love giving head. There's a whole line of people. But you started, you started with, now you're using what type of feathers now? Pheasant quills. I started with ostrich and turkey feathers. Right. Grew out of that quick. I think pheasant quills have the best ones. The straight ones are nice, but I've also incorporated using the longer curved plumage. Right. And it goes well on the front, like in the breast and then over the shoulders. Right. And, but, and, you know, we went over this a little last time, but I mean, you've been, you've just sort of you saw needle play and you decided to just add things to the needles. Yes. Make it a little prettier. Yeah. I started out with just your standard needle play. You know, you, you put the needles in and then maybe you put some ribbon around it and it's been an evolution. I want, there was, to me, there was always has to be something a little bit more to it. Something to make a little bit more artistic or a little bit more showy because just the ribbon was boring. Right. Did, did, did he put feathers on you before you started going out? Not yet. Oh, you've never done it? She's a virgin. This is the first time and you saved it for my show. Yeah, he's going to pop my shirt in the show. Well, why don't, why don't we, why don't we do that? And I am sorry that, I mean, I didn't mean to do it so early, but I'm sorry we were late. That was completely my fault. Just rushing right in there. If you guys are ready, why don't we start and some people know what we're talking about and we'll talk to Jesse and Savannah, was it? Yes. Yes. Yes. Savannah. So how did you meet Jesse, Savannah? Oh my God. Well, okay, I'm going to try to make a long story short. Okay. Does it include stretch assholes? No. Oh my God. Well, it includes an asshole. Yes. But, we'll talk about it. Okay. So without interruptions because, Oh, okay. Well, we'll try. I will lose track of like, side of my hockey. Well, bear in mind, they're going to, he's going to be sticking needles in her right next to me. Yeah, you can't get me too excited. I would just like to remind everybody that I am terrified of needles, so I won't be watching that. Take the headphones off too. I'll do that. We don't, we don't need to. We don't need the top on. Okay. Yeah, you can take the top off, Hells. I bet. I bet. Top off. Top off. Top off. Oh, there we go. Oh, wow. Yeah, very impressive. Oh, as always. Okay, here. Please continue your story. Let me tell you a story. We just got distracted. Let me tell you a story. So, a year ago, on June 19th, I met this amazing guy. His name is Michael Johnson, and I was in the love bubble, and I was, I couldn't believe it that I was a porn star. I was, I had a boyfriend, and he was hot, and he liked me. He was, he would do anything for me. Was his Twitter handle I am tight? No. Okay. Oh, honey, he's hot. So, turns out that when he, when we were in the love bubble, he was dating her. He ended up dumping her, and then almost months later, nine months, 10 months later, he decides that his feelings are not, you know, 100% with me, but he never told me. So, then I talk with her. I caught him, and this was the crazy thing. That's why I took a sabbatical, and I took a break from all of the, from everything, because I needed to like first fix my heart, because it was, it was very hard to perform. That's the hardest thing you could ever do. Try to perform and do porn when you have a broken heart. It's really hard. Especially when you have to get erect. Exactly. So, for me, it was heartbreaking that I couldn't like, I was trying to perform, and he was in my mind. I couldn't. It was when the TEA Awards, that night of, that I won Best Transsexual Performer of the Year. Right. I caught him talking with her. Oh, Michael Johnson. And when I, and when I confronted him, he said, he was a sister, blah, blah, blah. I wanted to kill her. I wanted to chop her head off. I hated her. But it wasn't until, and I was stuck in here in, LA for like a week. And then he, that same, the same night, he left back to Denver. So we were a week aside. When I get back, it was just like, I couldn't, I talk with her. I've, I got her phone number and I was like, we need to talk. Once we started talking, we figured out that her love story and my love story was the same. Like, the same words, the same romance, the same thing. I was like, oh, fuck him. And then the more that we started, he's like, now, if things are, going to go like this, like this, like this. And everything she told me, everything started to fall into place. And then when she started telling me that she wanted to be a model, but he suppressed her and started to change her. I was like, my revenge. I am going to undo your job. I am going to bring her out of the shell where you put her. And if she wants to be a model, I am going to make her a model. So now that she told me that she wants to do porn, I told her, I'm going to mentor you. Because, I don't need to teach her how to have sex. I need to teach her how to keep her posture, how to keep, not, you know, not be stressed about doing the porn, how to prepare before the scene, how to prepare the night before the scene, all that stuff. So when she told me that she wanted to do that, I was like, let's do it. Let's forget about that asshole and do this amazing story. And by the way, if you want to teach me how to have sex, I'll be all for that. Yeah, of course. No, but this is like, this is like a naughty X-rated Lifetime movie. Well, okay, there are many porns with similar plots. How many, how many, how many transsexuals were, was Michael Johnson fucking? Oh my God. Many. Later, later, later, once we, we broke up like separate, like we never saw, we haven't seen each other ever since. Right. I started finding out about this one and this one and that one and that one and that one and that's when I was like, I need to stop talking to people. Right. Like it's just hurting. And what's going, I mean, I didn't think those breasts could be even more beautiful. But oh my goodness. Are you into needles? Are you a little scared? I have tattoos, but it's different. It's different. Every time I go get tested, it's like, I don't know. No, it's for me, it's, I can't even look at it. It's the, the penetration because it sits underneath the skin. Cause like I have tattoos also, but I'm terrified of needles. But, but, but let me tell you what he's doing. And he, he went over this last time. He was, I mean, he, he changed his gloves already once at least. He's, he's, he's, he studied medical science. He's, he, he actually was in the hospital and had to research things to help heal himself. And based on this, he's, he's very, very careful. That's why the pizza box to keep everything sterile. How was that? How do you feel with that? Hells? Is that, is that all you ever thought, thought it would be? Yes. Okay. Okay. So, so we're going to, he's, he's changing his, he's changing his gloves again. He's the, the guy, he's, oh my God. And this is what he does in the clubs. There's a line of women and men to see what he does. Just waiting to be penetrated. But he always, he always has alcohol. He always has gloves. He always makes sure that everything's sterile. He never loses needles. I don't know. I can't do that. My implants will pop. He's got implants. He's got implants. Oh, speaking of tattoos, I was wondering, is there any way you could stand up? And I know this is an awkward moment and show the eyes. Oh, God. Okay. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Maybe this is not a good time. Hold on. Let's, let's give him some space here. You guys want to switch? Yeah, you guys do your thing first. So your back's going to be like a little boob angel. I see, I see the feathers are set again. Okay, here we go. Yeah. I'm sorry. Like, I'm the worst traffic cop ever. Like everything happened. You're saying, you're going like that, but your nipples are hard. Let me see the eyes. I want to see. Oh my God, I know. I just can't point that out. I'm like, can I see, can I see the, can we see the eyes? Look at that. That's cool. Talk about tattoos. Are we getting that on camera? Yeah, that's, that's, I mean, first off, yeah, that's, you work out, you do some sit-ups. I do. Yes. Every time I have sex, of course I have to do my sit-ups. Right, right, right. But I mean, it's a, I know exactly. It's a, but you've got the eyes. Um, and I've heard a couple people online, uh, uh, describe that as, uh, a little creepy. Savannah doesn't think it's creepy, but it's, uh, well, it's a creepy, I've always said, well, there's a dick coming out of your face, basically, above your crotch. Well, the thing is that, think about it. My dick is watching you. My, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, My point, the way I got it, the reason I got it was like, I need a tramp stamp. I need a sexy tattoo. If I'm going to be a porn star, I need a sexy tattoo. I already have, I have a tattoo in the back. How about one that says something like, I don't know, boner garage or something, you know? Enter here. Yeah, enter here or like, you know, or something. What's in the back? A mullet? I mean, what is going on in the back? Is that the back of your head? No, it's, no, it's just a sun and a moon, just a, oh, the typical sun and moon. Yeah. Just a simple eclipse. So I decided to do something that, you know, will call the attention, will be a icebreaker. Pretty much. That's how, that's how I said it. And tell me, isn't that an icebreaker? Yes, in some respects, yes. You're from Mexico. You're half Mexican, half Colombian. But how do you go from Mexico to Colorado? Well, my dad was the one that got here when I was very young. And he brought me when I was about 10 years old to study here in the United States. And it was the best decision he could have ever taken to bring me here because I would have never done, like all the things that I've done back in my, I'm sure, I'm sure he's proud. Is he proud? He's really, he's really proud. He's really, my dad's gay. Um, okay. So in right now, I'm like, oh, apparently there was an exception at one point. Yes. I'm really happy that, you know, he got married and everything. But when I started into porn, he said, so are you ready to do it? Like, are you sure? Like about the future? Think about this, think about that. He saw that I was a hundred percent sure. And I was like, just when you decided to be a transsexual, once you sit on the mule, nobody, puts you down. Like nobody brings you down. So if you want to go for it, go for it. And all he does, he's like, you will never believe what I saw at the store today. What? Look, I purchased your DVD. And he will give it to you. That's a little creepy. I don't know. My dad has a lot of friends in the, you know, like the bookstores and stuff like that. You don't have to put that on. I don't want to mess with your father's. But I don't, I'm listening to what you're saying and I will get back to that. I don't want to take the attention away from you, but can you stand up and show, parade what the beautiful stuff Cyrus has done? Do a little turn. Look at that. Oh, unbelievable. Talk about a picture. That's wow. Oh, you're right. Wow. You got that. I got to get the behind. Yeah. Turn back around. Let me get your little, I like it from the back. Yeah. Yeah. Don't, don't, don't let Cyrus. He's his behind. That's my baby. Oh yeah. Very nice. And yeah, good for you. I can't see from the blind. So you'd have to tell me. So, so, so, so that was your first time getting feathered. So how was it? Absolutely awesome. Did you get a sexy aroused? Cause we've had a little debate on whether it's an arousal or not. Every time he touches me, I get aroused. Well, yeah. I mean, that's the way every time he touches me, I get aroused too. But I mean, wait a minute. Are we going to fight on this? No, no, no, no, you got them. It's okay. No, trust me. I'm all for the love story. So, and, and just to expand on what you were talking earlier, you've both had, um, had a lot of problems with your legs. And, and it was funny cause I was wondering how you guys bonded. And, uh, right when you said it, it's like, okay, that makes sense. Cause I know you were having a lot of, uh, issues with your legs and, uh, and you, uh, I mean, so let me just help her out with that. Yeah. I identified with the trauma. I saw that and I could hear it in her words and one of her Facebook posts. So we just, I just started messaging her and, um, I just started relaying my experience, my ordeal, how I went through my journey. Cause I was trapped in a hospital bed for six months. You know, I couldn't move, I couldn't use my hand to use the computer. Couldn't even wash my own balls. Right. You know, I was just happy to have the male nurse come and wash my balls. That's how starved I was for fucking human contact. Right, right, right. Well, aren't we all, but, uh, that's, but, but I understand. So the, and it's, and it's great. I remember I told you, I said, you know, she's, she can be a bit of a handful, but, uh, I'm a firecracker. I know. She's, you're so tame tonight. All sorts of nutty things happen. She was banned from the studio for over a year. And we've, we've got her back. We love having her back. Yeah, no, so beautiful. And with the feathers. So, uh, you just, and I'm glad you saved her for, for our show. I'm surprised. See, I was picturing you guys in the bedroom, you putting feathers on her, like every day, every night, every day. We have many other options. I'll bet you, I'll bet you. We, we play with. Yeah. Well, we did kind of blood bond already. She wears my, my blood around her neck. Oh, you guys got blood bombs around. Yeah, this is our book. We have hers. Oh, wow. This is, this is crazy. And this is his cock ring. Oh. She's, she's my property now. So, I had this collar made for her. And the ring, I took the ring out of my cock after we baptized it, of course. And that's what closes it. Cause I was gonna say that's a, that was, looked a little small, but that's not the, that's not, that's not a cock ring you put on the outside of your head. No, that's my Prince Albert. That's the one you had in your cock. Yes. I said, no, he's your, we baptized him. But you still have all the piercings in your cock. Oh yeah, I still got others down there. Right. But that's one of the piercings that you had in your cock. Yeah. You had to, you had to remove, ew. How painful is that? Hey, that doesn't make it any less special. No, no, no, no, I didn't say ew cause it's disgusting. I said ew like I'm picturing something coming on my cock and it's painful. Oh, it doesn't hurt. I could actually put a straw down there and she could drink her drink through my cock. Seriously? Has that happened? Oh my God. Can we see that on the next one? I was going to ask to see your cock. I was like your cock is a lot more interesting. How about you drink and I'll drink? Whoa. I saw the party. I know. Now we need a real pizza. And Jessie Dubai, I'm wondering how did the, obviously that's a pseudonym as always. Everybody has a pseudonym here. How did, how did you get Jessie Dubai? How did that work out? Okay. So for me, Dubai, you know, it was, it's a country. It's a city. City, I'm sorry. City, country. City, country. City, country. City, country. I was going to call my name Vegas, you know, because it is kind of like the same ideology, but I'm different. I go out of the box and I go for better. So the reason why my name is Dubai is because I've always been attractive. I've, my, the first dances that I started doing was belly dancing. So I've been attracted to the culture and everything. I'm a, I'm a professional belly dancer as well. So. Did you do a little belly dancing? Of course. But let me finish the story and then we'll dance for you. Okay. Cause that's why you're not Jesse for Collins. Right, right. No, um, Dubai used to be just an empty land, land, just a desert. And now it's one of the most beautiful cities in the world. I used to be an empty canvas. I used to be a simple Mexican boy and now I'm this beautiful stunning girl. That's how I see myself. I grew, I evolved within time. That's why I'm not Vegas. I am something better than you. Dubai. The new Dubai. I got it. Very nice. So you, you, you just thought you were an ordinary Mexican boy, but do you knew, you knew the woman was there. I could see it in there. Right. And all I need to do was pull her out to show it to the world and now the world sees it. And they feel, they have fallen in love with her the way I fell in love with her when she was just inside. Right. And, and, uh, but, but you were an attractive, I'm assuming, I don't know, in Colorado. I would have been. Right. But you know, you will always have those, I'm not hot enough. I'm not this enough. And we always want to like, well, what you were saying. Not Nicole or Hell's Bell, but actually what she was saying is very similar. I started, I viewed myself as a sculpture and little by little, I bring out the pieces of myself that I already saw on the inside. It's just a matter of showing the person I am on the inside to the outside world. So, and by the way, that's, that's a moment of intelligence by Nicole Six. We're trying to get to the end of the show. We're trying to get to the end of the show. And go to NicoleSix.com and Amazon.com and get her new book, Some Fucked Up Shit, a collection of horror stories. It's great. Would you do a little belly dancing? I'd love to see that. Of course. So it's really easy. It's like, well, with those eyes. Yeah. Yeah. The eyes move, right? Right. I mean, that's gotta be the point. You do when you belly dance. Okay. We want to make sure we're getting, we're getting us a camera. Okay, great. So what do you do when you belly dance? First, separate your body in three parts, which is the hips, one side. They don't lie. Without moving your shoulders. Okay. You can do. Let me see if I can. He's trying to follow you. One of my favorite dances is dancing with a chandelier or a sword, though, because that's when you have to show the shimmer without shaking your shoulders. Look at that. Wow. Very nice. See, because I, because I'm a dancer, I'm a dancer. I'm a dancer. I'm a dancer. I'm a dancer. I'm a dancer. I'm a dancer. I'm a dancer. I'm a dancer. I'm a dancer. I'm a dancer. I'm a dancer. Before I started, I think you're before I started porn, I used to be in drag shows and doing a lot of I read that. So I started since I was like, okay, I cannot be doing Shakira every weekend. I cannot be impersonating her every single time. So I started taking dance classes. I started learning. So literally I can say I went to school to become a drag. And how was the Colorado Burlesque scene? Is that a thing? Is it nice? Is it a lot of people? Not really burlesque. I wouldn't really, a lot of color burlesque. More of a drag thing? It's more of a drag. I was one of the ones that used to do burlesque because most of the girls will, you know, use pads or like makeup and it was like drag, which is beautiful because they change so much. I don't change a lot. Like I go with my hair. I come out with just like Carmen Carrera. She comes out herself. The only thing that I do is that I come out half naked because I have the body for it, but perform and that's what I do compared to what I used to do before that. I will change my face completely. I will go from looking like Selena, three songs, go backstage, change the makeup. You have 15 minutes and then come out looking like Tina Turner, you know, and then go backstage, change your makeup and come out looking like, I don't know, Celine Dion. It's so... There's no way you could look like Celine Dion. Well, of course not, but it's not giving you the... Just illusion. Illusions. So it was really hard. And with that, I learned a lot. I learned a lot about makeup. I learned about a lot of the stuff that I use here, like makeup techniques when you want to look fierce when you go on a scene. And a lot of the times you don't have makeup artists, so you have to be good at like making sure your makeup lasts enough. Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, Hillswell can relate, although the hickey's still there, so I don't know if you caught that. But I think that's beautiful. When you have a hickey made out of love, it's like... Thank you. That's what we were just saying. It's not. Why do I have to hide it? I didn't say he had to hide it. I wouldn't hide it. There's a difference when you see, you know... I mean, you're wearing a cock ring. Who cares who you are? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I'm wearing a cock ring. Really? The inside cock ring. So how did you... What was your first... What was your first scene and how did you get into it? My first scene was for King.com and it was for Tia's Seduction. And it was when that big scare happened, you know, that all production had to stop because I was preparing... Yes. I was preparing myself to like really go in. I was like, okay, finally I'm here. And I lost all this care because we have gone through like the beginning of the story. And we're like, okay, we're ready for penetration. So Jesse, get hard, do this. And I was like ready on position. I was like, okay. And then they're like, stop. Come over here. And they're like... Guess what? Apparently, there has been a scare. We cannot do it right now. There's going to be fluid exchange. Wait a second. You got all hard and they said no? And I was like, okay, that's fine. I was like, don't worry. We will give you a killer pay fee or something. And I was like, okay, that's fine. We're so sorry. And then Tomcat, he's like, how about if you do a solo? We'll do it as a feature. And I was like, that's better because I don't have to share screen with no one. It's just me. I can see you like the spotlight. Well, at first I was like scared because I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know if they were going to put music. You jerked off a little bit. You jerked off a little bit. You jerked off a little bit. Before? But yes, but it's so different. Solos are different. Totally got to be different. Solos are different because solo, I have to come up with a story. She has seen me have sex. Solos are different. Yes. She saw me have sex like in camera on Tuesday. She saw me on Sunday and Tuesday. So I don't mind performing like having sex in front of people when I'm doing a porn. Because, you know, people is doing their own thing and whatnot. So I'm just like focused on what I'm doing with my partner. But when I when she was here with Eli Hunter and I was doing a solo, I was looking into the camera and I was like, do you like that? Yeah. You were looking at her? Yes. No, I was like looking at the camera and I'm like, do you want my tits? But you were imagining her. No, no, no. You were imagining me. I don't know. She was imagining the person who was potentially watching at home. The viewer. I was just touching myself and I'm like thinking, I'm like trying to come up with the story and I'm like, do you like this top? And I was like, remember that top that we got the other day? I did. I just got to see. Because it's like I'm going with the story and I lose track because there's like, it's just my own world. So it's better when I actually, when I do my solos, I actually write it like what I'm going to say. And then if I go off the script, I go off the script. But at least I know something that is there. You require direction. Just a little bit. And there is no direction if it's just yourself. So you had to become your own director. So Savannah, you're getting into the adult thing now. You're going to be doing solos too? Oh, I actually did one. Oh my goodness. My first solo and my first hardcore too. Oh, you did a hardcore too? I did. Yesterday? Define hardcore. That's when you have sex on camera with someone else. Okay. But I mean, I thought hardcore was like DP or something like really. No, it's the difference between softcore and hardcore porn. Yeah, softcore is more like just solo. Softcore is what you see on HBO. Okay. So softcore is what I jerk off to and hardcore is what everybody else does. So you had sex with a partner on camera? I did. Yeah. My first camera partner, so to speak. And the other thing I was going to ask you, Jessica, we had another transsexual star in here. You must have done a scene where you're fucking somebody and that guy's fucking you, right? Yes. At the same time? Yes. Like the human centipede? Is that what you call it? Or is there a different name for it? I call it a train. No, human centipede is when everyone is eating each other's asshole and they go in a circle. You've done that? Just like the movie. No, but I would like to. I was just telling her. Well, let's do it. Let's go. Come on. We got one more. I'm okay. Have you ever like broke and have you ever like see a hot girl or guy? I don't know whatever you're into these days, honey. I'm into girls. I'm into girls. I don't know what people see. Although you look like a girl to me. I'm into everything now. I'm into like whoever loves me. I'm into that. I'm into this love. This is fantastic. This is beautiful. Don't be sorry. It's just beautiful. But how many guys do you fool? You must fool a lot of guys. I don't fool. We do fool a lot of guys. We both fool a lot of guys. Yeah, yes. But I'm not fooling. But I'm not fooling. I just fool anyone. How many guys do you surprise? Yeah, I'm a little surprised. Because the owner of Skid Row Studios was surprised when I showed him another picture of you. I know several of my friends were like, oh my gosh, she's so fucking hot. Yeah. But the interesting thing about it is I would say probably a quarter of the people are like, huh. Yeah. They just go with it. Yes. I already put it in my head that there's two reasons why people will talk to me. Either one, they like me. And two, they're harassing and hating on me. Because they like me. And I'll explain. I'll explain. There was me and her. We were walking in the fashion district, you know, shopping around because she wanted to go and check it out. I was like, let's go walk around. And then this guy, you know, walking down with his girlfriend, literally yells out, those are men. Oh my gosh. Like I said, calm down, please. Come on. Namaste. Let it go. Let it go. Oh no, I can't, motherfucker. I turn around and I'm like, what? I'm hotter than your wife. Oh, burn. The ladies down there, like all the ladies at the stores, they were like, you go, Mika. Yes, you're right. You go, Mika. You tell him. They're yelling at you in the wrong neighborhood. That's for sure. Exactly. So it's kind of like, I already figured out if you're harassing at me, it's because you like me. But just to make yourself look straight, you're going to go with like, oh, I don't like that. I think that if you're straight, you can come to me and tell me, I think you're very beautiful. Not what I'm into. But I agree. I acknowledge your beauty. And that's a real straight man to me. A gay guy will tell me, oh, girl, you're fierce. I love your look. Gay guy in the closet will be like, fuck that shit. I don't like none of that. But then later, he will be texting and calling me. Exactly. Looking for me. Let me tell you, Mika. I like you. Thank you, papi. You're beautiful. Not what I'm into. Anyway, when's the time go? 100% true. I'm sorry we didn't have more time to talk. There's so much more to this beautiful story. But thank you. You're back. The band is lifted. You can come anytime. Cyrus. It's always great to see you. When are you going to be doing the Feathers again in the club? I don't know. I don't have any scheduled date yet. Okay. But if people want to get a hold of you, it's Morgan Deegan on Facebook. Yeah. Right there. Okay. And Hells Bell. How do people get a hold of you? Therese Michelle Bell on Facebook. Yeah. They took away the Hells Bell name. Those bastards. Well, my Hells Bells is my entertainment name. So they can find me either way. There you go. It's great to have you. It's great to see the two hosts finally. Because you met Josie. You met Josie. We got to get the three of you in there sometime. And Jessie Dubai. Yes. Charming, beautiful. Loves the spotlight. Thank you. Doesn't want to share the spotlight. Yes, she does. But loves it. How do people get a hold of you? Of course, you can follow me at Twitter, Instagram, or Tumblr at TSJessie. Or just Google me. Or if it's easier, just go to JessieDubai.XXX or my new website that I'm launching. JessieDubaiXXX.com. That's what I was going to say. What are we going to find at JessieDubaiXXX.com? When? What are we going to find? What are you going to find? You're going to find pretty much my modeling portfolio. Everything about me, my blog, what I'm doing with her, how I'm teaching her. Everything like behind the scenes of like how am I turning her into what I've done. Because you know that when in this industry, sometimes you run into like brick walls. And I don't want her to go through that. So it's like I'll show you the real. And then you can show other girls. You mean like Michael Johnson? Yes. Savannah, how do we get a hold of you? You can find me at Twitter at SavannahThorn1 because I'm number one. Okay. You can also find me at her website too. Website, yes. Okay. Savannah, we're going to have to have you in by yourself. Yes. And Jessie, it's a pleasure meeting you. I wish we had more time. I'm sorry I'm late. What a great show. And Nicole, so fucked up shit, Nicole6.com, gothcomedian.com. Come check out my show tomorrow night. Hollywood Friends Festival. If you're listening to this live, 1030, Complex Theaters. Everyone have a wonderfully creepy week. Bye. Goodbye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.