Justice League movie pitches and nerd news

We'll be right back. Welcome to the Dorks of the Podcast. Today is going to be less angry and more about us fantasizing about what we would like to see in the Justice League movie. Today we have, as always, Ed Greer. What is a per? Matt Blackwood. What is downer? And then our special guest, and I think our new permanent guest, our new permanent ghost person. She's going to read comments. On top of reading comments, she's also going to chime in and be our, what I'm calling our nerd news guest. Girl. And we're going to have a segment where basically we go through some of the stuff that's happening in the nerd world. And I have bifocals. And she does have bifocals. And they actually are needed. She's not, she doesn't have fake glasses. It's Becky Kluger. Say hello, Becky. Me. Hello. Hi. Me. Me. It's all about me. Oh, did you introduce our other homeboy, Matt Blackwood? Yeah. Yeah, we did that. Oh, sorry. I was trying to picture a Batman. Sorry, audience. I appreciate you getting my back, though. Oh, yeah, buddy. All right. Yeah, I'm glad we're all here. So today we're going to talk about Justice League. Oh, wait, hold on. Did you introduce Ed Greer? Yeah. Do you know what I like best about Ed Greer? Is that he's Ed Greer. Also, today is the day before my birthday. So I hope some people are listening to it. Yeah, tomorrow I'm going to be 36 years old. I'm also still going to look like I'm like 20. So that's good. I'm looking forward. Are you going to be anywhere celebrating? Tonight at 11 o'clock? Oh, yeah. I have a birthday party show. If anybody's listening. Where is it? It's at the Oaks Tavern in Sherman Oaks. She is a news girl. 625 Moorpark. She's getting the facts. She's writing it down in a little notebook. The 625 Moorpark to hang out with the great Ron Swallow. And I'm actually going to just do a bunch of jokes that I like. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. This Justice League begins and ends with Superman, I feel like. Okay. Superman, I mean, he's kind of power wise, he's almost like half of the Justice League. You know, he's so crazy powerful. So, thing number one is I kill Superman. Oh, just kill him right at the beginning? Right. So, like in the first 10, 15 minutes of the movie, it's basically like a Superman movie. It's, or a Superman comic. It's Brainiac coming toward Earth, sends out all these little, you know, these little pods. They're like coming from Mars, right? Right. And it's basically like he's somehow resurrected the Martians. Right? And so, the Martians are all attacking all across Earth, right? So, you get scenes of everybody fighting against these Martians, right? Yeah. And Superman's like, okay, I got this. Flies up to the ship, flies up, you know, to fight Brainiac. Boom, hits Brainiac's force field. Brainiac, you know, encases him in kryptonite because he's a bad motherfucker. And Superman's dumb. And, yeah, he basically turns and, you know, just, you know, when Superman's all completely like desiccated out by all this kryptonite, you know, looking like a Holocaust Superman, he just spikes him through the chest. Right? Okay. And then he like keeps him just like he keeps the bottle city of Kandor. He just keeps him like a keepsake of this like Superman, which would basically like a skeleton with like... Thin gray skin on it and the Superman costume. He just keeps it as a display case. And he continues in his ship that turns into like a giant robot type ship, you know, like one giant thing, you know, like Brainiac does at some point in the book. So, you get both the giant form and the little human form, the giant robot form. So, anyway, so he lands, wreaks havoc on Metropolis. Metropolis. And suddenly, everybody... Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. When they see, oh, shit, he took out Superman. We're all fucked. What the fuck are we going to do? Okay. So, Batman is, you know, comes across one of these Martian things. Right? Okay. And he throws everything he's got at it. He throws his smoke pellets, his whatever. Like anything he can throw out of his stupid utility belt. Right? His stupid utility belt. I'm saying everything he can find. You sound like the worst person to make a Justice League pitch, by the way. So, first off... Superman. He throws a marker pellet at it. Nothing happens. By the way, Superman's a dick. Batman throws stupid shit out of his belt. I want to see a Justice League movie. No, just listen up. Okay. So, Batman throws everything he has at this thing. Finally, using every bit, everything he can grab, every bit of training he's got, he finally takes this thing down. And he's like... And then turns around. Yeah, here's five of them. You know? And it's, oh, shit. Oh, shit. And then suddenly, Wonder Woman jumps in. Beats all their asses down. Just chops them to ribbons. And he's like, no, we don't kill. And that's their central conflict, I feel like, is that she... Wonder Woman, I feel, is the most ripe to make just a full-on movie about her. But the problem is, there are always going to be pussies about that. Because Wonder Woman is a soldier. People make fun of her stuff. Nobody ever makes fun of the bracelets. Because, you know... Fucking... Deflect bullets. But people make fun of the invisible plane. Motherfucker, that is a stealth fighter. Yeah. People make fun of the lasso that makes you tell the truth. I don't know about this. She's got a golden lasso that makes you tell the truth. I mean, that's basically... Oh, yeah, I get to skip all of waterboarding. Like, that's my... Yeah. My Guantanamo Bay is, like, kept... Her lasso... Attached to my belt. If it gets on someone, it makes them tell the truth. No, no, I know about... But I've never heard anyone make fun of this stuff. Oh, really? So, what's a common... What's a common... Make fun of Wonder Woman? Well, like, making fun of the invisible... The problem is that people draw the invisible plane where you can still see Wonder Woman just, like, sitting. So, she just looks like she's sitting, flying through the air, and it looks dumb. There's some reincarnations of Wonder Woman where she can fly, though. Right. And she can fly most of the time. And so, it's another thing of, like, why does she have that jet jet? Why would she have a jet? Like, Spider-Man with some repelling gear. Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. Oh, I might not be able to stick to walls today. I might as well rappel down this wall. I'm like a dumbass. Would you really want to fly around all the time, like, in L.A.? Like, without protection? It's smoggy. There's, you know, especially when you go right outside of L.A., there's bugs. Got a good point. You don't want to get in a fucking invisible jet. The bug thing alone. You're flying really fast. You're going to get bugs. You're going to swallow a few bugs. And I want to... I like listening to music in my car. Yeah, maybe she has a good stereo system in her jet. Yeah, she wants to listen to some podcasts while she's cruising to Themyscira. That actually makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah, yeah. I agree. Like, sure, you could run, but yeah, yeah, you'd want the tunes. And then her iPod keeps flying off when she's flying. So I could see that. So basically... Okay, hold on. Go ahead. Well, first off, Eric Barnes says, Grant Morrison, Jelly, Roster, or Get the Fuck Out. Listening to Matt's pitch is like Lars von Trier pitching a movie about the NBA Dream Team. That is the weirdest... Why am I dropping the ball and reading the comments? Where are they? Okay, I'm going to fix this. That's okay. I'm going to carry on. I don't even know what the Lars von Trier thing means. Anyway. Who's Lars von Trier, Eric Barnes? Help us out. Oh, no, he's a director, and he did Antichrist and Melancholia, but I don't... Oh, okay, that's why. I guess... The NBA Dream Team, it'd be pretty hard for him to pick out anything about basketball if he's super arty, is what he's saying. I don't like him. I just want to say that. Eric Barnes? No, Grant Morrison. Lars von Trier. I don't like Grant Morrison or Lars von Trier. So, there you go. Anyway. Oh, take that, Eric. Take that, Eric. Eric Barnes. Okay, so, basically, you know, that's their central conflict, though, is Wonder Woman's like, no, of course we kill. What are you, fucking retarded? Like, we're soldiers. Like, if you're not going to kill, you are going to find yourself in the situation where you're forced to make that choice, where you have to either kill something or somebody's going to die, you know? So, of course, later on in the movie, we have to pay that off, and Batman does get faced into that... He gets put into that situation. But, you know, it's a good thing. You know? So, ultimately, Wonder Woman wins the argument, except it's Batman, and he's like, the fuck I do, and he finds a third option where he's able to avoid it. That's good. So, that's my Batman, and, okay, quintessential Wonder Woman scene, because Wonder Woman is super badass, and you've got to get that across. Yeah. So, quintessential Wonder Woman scene is this. Fighting through a bunch of guys, right? All right, you know, let me rewind. Okay. So, she takes out all these guys, right? So, she and Batman... So, are you describing, like, the opposite of a gangbang? Hold on. I'm taking on a bunch of guys. So, she and Batman are standing over all these dead guys having this argument, and it's like, of course we kill. And then, you know, the guy, like, they all start to get up again, and they're like, oh, shit. And they're like, I mean, get up again, like, picking up their severed limbs and, like, reattaching them. They're just coming again, you know? So, like a gangbang. Yeah. No, the... Awesome. Okay. So, suddenly, they're like, oh, shit, we don't even know how to kill these things. So, they get the fuck out of there. Batman has got, like, his big wall of superheroes where he's like, all right, I need that one, that one, that one, and that one. You know? So, like, you get the idea right away, okay, that it's the roster to fit the situation. Yeah. And by the way, this whole movie does not leave this 24-hour period. This whole movie is this one... This is one thing that they have to deal with. In one day. Yeah. I like that. In, like, less than a day, really. Like, yeah. So, just this one situation. And if you think about it, the Avengers did a good job of that, of keeping it really urgent with, like, I mean, there was not more than three days passed in the whole Avengers movie, too. This is, like, the opposite of Dragon Ball Z. Somebody powers up for one day in Dragon Ball Z. Batman and Joker just stare at each other, and Batman's like, I will throw a batarang, and Joker's like, no, you will not. You do not have the courage. That sounds good. That lasts 20 minutes. Yeah, that's why one movie would be in one battle. Dragon Ball Batman. Okay, so Batman taps, I feel like he taps maybe Hawkgirl, Mr. Terrific, The Atom, and then, of course, Green Lantern, Jon Stewart. Gotta be Jon Stewart. Nobody likes that Green Lantern movie, so you gotta bring in a new blood. And, of course, Jon Stewart's the most badass of all the Green Lanterns. And you gotta bring in the Flash. Okay, first off, oh, you got it? Nope. Nope. Eric Barnes says, I hate Lars von Trier, too, but love Matt Blackwood, for the record. Andrette says, Salazar says, like, go the movie. Mandy D says, you better have Martian Manhunter doing stuff in your imaginary movie. If he's the secretary, I will punch you in the face. Well, that is one thing they do with the Justice League and the comic books. They will always have this dude. They've reported Martian Manhunter being nearly as strong as Superman, have almost every power Superman has, including intangibility and shape-shifting. But they always have him up in the watchtower being the dispatch officer going like, okay, now you do this and you do this. They're using psychic abilities for that. No, check this out. We just saw that Batman against one of these things, there's an army of these things on Earth now. Batman against one of them took everything he had to take it out. Batman is the fucking dispatch officer. Batman is the one that's calling, you do this, you do this. And he should be because he's the smartest. Exactly. He's the perfect person to do that. So while he's doing that, he gets basically Brainiac's ship just fucking lands in Metropolis, right? And he shows everybody, you know, here's dead Superman. You know, fuck you guys. And it's, you know, it's the big, it's the big classic, you know, the Brainiac 13 robot, you know, that gigantic body thing. That's his ship. Yeah. You know, and so you see, you see a lot of these other superheroes that Batman calls in, you know, Green Lantern's fighting him and Flash is fighting him. Flash gets his fucking leg broke. Like they just, they're, they're pretty strong. So they just grab him, break Flash's leg. And he's like, oh shit, gonna die. You know, like, you know, trying to like crawl away as fast as he can. And then suddenly, you know, Green Light comes in and blasts him off. He's like, oh shit, I'm gonna die. And he's like, oh, thank God. He turns and it's not Hal Jordan. It's Jon Stewart. And he's like, oh, I thought you were somebody else. And that's how we pay off the whole, like, you know, the Green Lantern thing, you know, immediately. And, uh, okay. So Jon Stewart's story basically is this. Uh, at some point somebody's like, oh, you know, that guy's got a chip on his shoulder. What's his problem? Oh, it's, uh, somebody's like, oh yeah, he, he fucking let a whole planet die. Like that's, uh, that's why he got moved back to earth. Like he was a Green Lantern of this other sector. Right. So they tell, they very briefly tell the story. Of how he let that planet die. Or maybe does Martian Manhunter tell that story? Maybe that'd be funny. Cause he's in space. He might know about all the space stuff. And Martian Manhunter was there too. Yeah. See, there you go. So yeah, Martian Manhunter can tell that story. So anyway, uh, what? Um, we have a new comment. Yeah. Eric Barnes said, Mr. Terrific. And then Andres Salazar said, Mr. Terrific is the weakest African-American character in DC by far. Put Jon Stewart in that mother. Okay. So we've already got Jon Stewart. But I'll tell you. I'll tell you why Mr. Terrific in a second. Okay. So all these, uh, all these Martians. Mandy has to be on our show sometime. She says hilariously funny shit. Jon Stewart is the dreamiest of the earth Green Lanterns. Yeah. By far. Easily. I mean, Guy Gardner. What's with that hair? Yeah. Guy Gardner has to be some bad. He looks like Eraserhead. Bad decisions. He looks like they gave David Lynch's Eraserhead a Green Lantern ring. Uh. Okay. So why is your. I have a question. Can I interject? Yeah. Uh. Something about the practicality of this movie. Uh. Can we cast the cast of Glee to be all the superheroes? Can we do that? Can I fight you right now? I would like the fat black girl to be Batman. Wheelchair Kid should be Flash, right? Oh yeah. Definitely. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I think, I think Drake from Degrassi should be Flash. I don't even know it. Oh, Drake the rapper. That's right. He was on Degrassi. Yeah. I forgot. Uh. How do you even see that? That's like your Canada fact. I think he should play Barbara Gordon. Somebody out there. I think that giant dude from Transformers that's all ripped, the black dude from Transformers should be John Stewart. That's a robot. I think you're talking about jazz. You're talking about jazz. Yeah. That's. Oh, sorry. I got that confused. That's not, that's not an actor, Ron. That's, that's CG. Play the music. Okay. Okay. So. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. You'd cast him in your indie romance movie if he was just an actor. Okay. So you've got the individual stories, but what's the overall plot arch? Like when we get into the later part of the second act. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's the overall thing. Okay. So basically the reason that, the reason that Batman calls each of these guys in for a specific reason, all these little Martian guys have like, have all this tech on him. And Batman realizes that the way that they're constantly coming back is that they're powered by this tech. They're, they're not even really alive. You know, they're like a bunch of death locks. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, uh, hot girl with her mace, with the nth metal that can actually shut that shit down for good. Uh, Mr. Terrific. Can't be. Can't be seen by them. Nor can he be seen by Brainiac, who is also an android. Cause Mr. Terrific can't be seen by any electronic thing. Yeah. In fact, in, in my movie, he's not even a superhero. He's a dude that has this power that Batman has on file that he knows about, but he, but they're like, okay, so you're going to come in here and do this. And he's like, whoa, whoa, what? Like, yeah, yeah. You're going to go fight against these guys because they can't see you. And that's a really good benefit for us. So he basically makes, uh, he makes this small little team. Okay. To infiltrate Brainiac's ship. Okay. Okay. And here's the quintessential Wonder Woman scene that I wanted to do. Cause it's going to be part of the infiltration. All right. So she's running through fighting all these guys. Eric Barnes says, I want flying Viking war sex with hot girl. I agree. I agree a hundred percent. I want, I want that for him. I want that for all of us. Can we all fuck hot girl? We're a loving podcast. Uh, yeah. If we all get to fuck hot girl. Oh, by the way, uh, I forgot to tell you guys a number. Phone number is 1-800-893-9562. Okay. So here's the Wonder Woman scene. She beats up all these guys. And of course they keep coming back to life. Right? So what does she do? She wraps her lasso around one, yanks him to her. And she's like, how do I get to the control room? Whatever. And he just tells her cause he can't not do it. You know? Uh, and he just immediately speaks, you know, English, whatever. Cause that's how the lasso works. Right? So just immediately tells her. And then she's like, how do I kill? Kill you. And he just describes like, Oh, between the third and fourth rib on this side. Like we have this little power coupling thing, whatever. And she's like, great. And then she just stabs him in it. All right. That's pretty hardcore. That's pretty hardcore. And that, that sounds like Wonder Woman. And then she's like, yeah. So then she just communicates to bat and Batman hears it. So he's like, okay, everybody do this. So then you get shots of all around the world. You get shots of green arrow going, Oh, thank Christ. You know? And then suddenly, you know, star city or whatever. That's him, right? Star city. I'm not. Anyway. So suddenly boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Arrows all in that spot. Now they're actually taking them down. Now the fucking, uh, you know, Gotham cops are actually, you know, doing something, you know? So now, okay. Now I've got, right. Uh, so basically this whole plan, everybody infiltrating in is to get Superman's body. Uh, and Mr. Terrific just has to stand there like, and work on this stuff on like, you know, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, figuring out how to, how to open the thing with Brainiac standing right there. So you got a lot of cool tension scenes of him just standing there, uh, like right in the belly of the beast, but nothing in there can see him. Okay. Uh, which I just thought was really cool. And so basically they are able to get out Superman's body. Uh, green lantern makes like this, uh, like he starts to fly it out there and then he gets injured or something, whatever. The point is you end up with a situation where he basically makes this ramp and the flash is the only one who can do this. And he, the flash pushes Superman's body to this little casket thing, whatever. Yeah. He just runs it, pushes it the whole way into the sun. So sacrificing himself. All right. Oh, sacrifice the flash. Which flash are we doing? Uh, I was thinking Bart Allen or Barry Allen. And finally, of course. Of course. They're like, okay, well, does it work? Whatever. And then Superman just comes flying full fucking power. Just knocks out this gigantic robot. Goes right and punches like right through Brainiac's force field. So yeah, that's the whole thing basically. All right. I like it. And then, and that's the end. And the Superman is just bust, starts breaking shit at that point. And that's it. Yeah. I mean like everybody, everybody does something. Yeah. Oh. And, uh, the thing about the. The Martians is that Martian Manhunter is really pissed about that. Uh, and I, I, I kind of wanted this, this movie to be the thing where you see Martian Manhunter with, uh, that he starts out as like in his Martian form, whatever. And it's like Superman's example that he wants to meet that he starts doing that, uh, that costume. I always loved that aspect of the character, but, uh. Oh yeah. Like he wants to emulate Superman. Right. I mean that, that's the whole reason that he looks like he does. But you know what? Does, you know what? I, this is my. This is my thing, man. This is my thing. Um, Martian Manhunter needs to look like a goddamn Martian. And I think it'd be cool if he looked like a fucked up Martian all the time as almost like a straight anti-assimilation thing. Yeah. I hope, I hope you can understand and appreciate why I would be. Why would you do that? Why I would be anti-assimilation. Ed's black if you guys didn't know. No, cause it just, it just reeks of this whole, this whole like, yo, I saw the white man's example. He doesn't have to change his big ass head. He just needs to start wearing a cape. Well, he needs to put some, some motherfucking shirt on. He's got suspenders and some draws on. We have some new comments. Mandy D says, we need a crossover movie. Green Arrow, Black Canary, Hawkeye slash Mockingbird. Yep. I'd watch the shit out of that. Mary Barnes says, good. Barry, Barry Allen dies. So Wally West is in the sequel to get the real shit done. Okay. First off, I have one, I have one problem. Sellability wise with yours, even though I love it. Cause I actually like it. Are you saying sellability? Sellability. Oh, I never do anything for sale. You need Superman to do shit in the movie. He does at the beginning. That's the whole point. When that first invasion happens, it's like the first 15 minutes. He has to be there for a good 25 to 40 minutes of the movie breaking shit. Well, then this meeting is over. That's what people want to see. I mean. I have a question about the movie. Um, how much glass will be breaking? All of it. All of the glass. Well, in my movie, a lot of it, because I say, uh, I say we do apocalypse. Um, because apocalypse can stand up to Superman at least for a while. You mean doomsday? That's no, not doomsday. I'm not doing dark side. Dark side. Sorry. I'm going Marvel on apocalypse. Dark side. We say, I say we go dark side. Um, and he, uh, and they, and they actually are trying to just recruit Superman. That's, that's the thing I would like to see. He's there trying to make, uh, him actually join forces. I'm going to granny. Goodness is offering him some cookies. Yeah. I'm going to go with magic of some type. I haven't decided. I haven't thought it out perfectly, but I think he's, they're going to try to use magic to make, uh, soup, soups go bad. Um, and of course he resists for most of it and then has to fight. Uh, he goes bad for a little bit. Batman, uh, comes up with a way to fix it. Um, using perhaps somebody that nobody else like, um, my brain stopped working. Who would nobody else like in the DCU? Zatanna. Everybody likes Zatanna. What are you talking about? I love Zatanna. Who doesn't like Zatanna? Zatanna. But yeah, I think she sucks. Fuck that guy. You don't like magic. Yep. But the magic biggest. By the way, Ed, you're magic hating ass. You're Superman hating ass. Mm-hmm. That movie. I mean, no, this is my thing. I, I get what you're saying in regards to you got to take him out and it can make it really interesting. But I think what I would, the only addendum I would make, uh, overall is, um, I would probably have it be that there's something that comes along and corrupts. Superman. I like that angle that Ron was talking about. Something that comes along to corrupt Superman or compromises his abilities to the point where he becomes a threat to earth and all the superheroes must band together to defeat him and they cannot. But that's such a better sequel. That's such a better sequel though. For the first movie, you don't want to do that. But that's a, there's no fucking guarantee that you'll ever be other movies. So what I'm saying is if he, if he gets corrupted and all the superheroes band together to try to fuck his shit up and then the overarching villain who's corrupting Superman is a dinner fight to be the problem. And Batman comes along and solves the problem for all these super dudes or dude with a ring. He can move the world. Dude that can run real fast. All that shit. This dude with no powers comes on and goes, uh, I got this rock. I'm going to put on this suit. I'm going to fuck him up real quick, get him back. And now we're all going to take on this bad guy. I think that would be pretty awesome. Okay. Uh, by the way, Mindy D says, uh, everyone in the world loves a Tana and then, uh, D Naxx is T, which you're supposed to know. I don't know. It was, Ed can suck a dick if you read it backwards. That's hilarious. Mandy the sniper. I don't have a dick, so. Well done. Well done. Thanks for a shitty spell for me. So, uh, also the other idea I had, and it's boring in some ways, but great in others is I think they should just do the cartoon, uh, crisis, uh, on two earths. Uh, they've done that. Haven't they? Yeah. But instead of doing it as a cartoon, I think they should literally just turn that into an actual movie. There have been a bunch of those great, uh, direct to the, to video, uh, animated justice league features. Every one of them has been very solid. Yeah. So, I mean, if they simply just translated one of those to live action, that would be great too. Yeah. In, in the end, I don't think it matters. I think like every fucking kid who watches one of those things, they don't need. They don't need an origin story every time. You'll notice that mine wasn't an origin story. Yeah. No origin story. I don't feel, I don't feel like the, an origin story is needed at all for the justice league. We all know who the justice league is. We all know who fucking Batman and Superman are. We know their origins. We may not know Wonder Woman's origin, but we all know what she looks like, who she is, whatever, because she's part of our pop culture now. Yeah. Okay. But anybody who doesn't know who Hawkgirl is, you see Hawkgirl fly in and hit something with a mace and everybody goes, oh yeah, she's got wings and a mace. Got it. It's not difficult. And if, and if nothing else, you can do a small thing where when Batman is in your specific thing, getting Hawkgirl that it's like, oh, she's got the nth metal. Like it's literally on their weapon. Nth metal does the specific thing that it does. I mean, the one, the one, the, okay. Two great things about Matt's pitch. First, Batman having detailed files on everybody and having all this information is really cool because it's very Batman-y and it's very much his role. Yeah. And the other thing was, um, I do believe the Superman needs to be occupied for a long time, but the thing is, I do believe you'd have a little bit of, it's almost like Hulk, right? When Hulk was not occupied for a bunch of the Avengers movie, there was some sort of reason. The reason was he didn't want to be the Hulk and we're yearning for him to be the Hulk. You know what I mean? So there's got to be something maybe like that where it's like, there's a reason why Superman, Superman might be, uh, caught up in some shit, man. You know? Superman might be thrown into a frigging pocket dimension and we don't know how to get him back. There's so many different things where he can be active while he's out of commission in this story rather being, rather than being a desiccated corpse, which literally every film reviewer watching that movie would go, I could just hear the typewriters clicking, fuck, Superman was a desiccated corpse for 50 minutes of the movie. What? This is bullshit. Not seeing that it was so brilliant that you had to get him out of there to get the team together. You know what I mean? I heard so brilliant and that's going to be the blurb. Well, and, uh, and another thing, well, you know what I, for mine, if we have, uh, literally you could just, this is what it could be. Darkseid, uh, invades. He's, uh, his armies are on earth occupying time while he literally just fights with Superman the entire time. Now that would be badass. Although I think the better villain for that would be Mongol because he's all into battle world. He's all into, I want just to. Just fight and just see who wins and just have it be that, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like if he's just trying to turn earth into battle world. No, no, I'm not about battle world. It's about, he's, uh, he tried the first part of the movie would be trying to recruit Superman. It doesn't work because Batman stops it. For the whole climax, you've got everybody fighting his minions or whatever, but he's just one-on-one with Superman. Yeah. The whole time. And it's like, and, and for like a large part of the movie, while the plot of the movie moves on, like. How they're going to fight the war, who they're going to recruit, Batman planning everything out. And in the meantime, Batman will be coming up with a way to help out Superman with Dark Side. Cause, um, we have to do something because Superman can take on Dark Side one-on-one. I like the idea of him having like a huge chalkboard and like working it out and then like powering up the supercomputers and having like a bunch of people figure everything out. And he's like, okay, we got it. We got it. Superman, kick him in the balls. And he's like, okay, I'm going to try. Try it. Fight, fight dirty Clark. Yeah. I, and the other one that I really like, but again, it's another one that they'll never do is from the cartoon. They have, uh, uh, uh, Batman with the files. I think it's also a run of the comic books as well. Um, Tower of Babel. Yeah, exactly. And he has all the files on how to take down everybody. Um, the one problem is. They called the cartoon Doom. Yeah. And they don't, my problem with that one though is one, I would rather have the Jon Stewart. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. movie. They would see right away that's a dude who has a power ring like that movie, except he's not that guy. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. And I'm sorry to be angry on this Angry Dorks podcast. You're supposed to be. But god damn, do we not see how shitty these characters are? Honestly, do we not see that? I mean, it's like, dude, Green Arrow, go, man, dude, Zatanna on that one. You know what I'm saying? Green Arrow can go us like a dick. I mean, he's got a WB show. That's where he belongs. He needs to fight WB villains. A friend of mine heard my joke about I basically said, voting anywhere other than a swing state is like being Green Arrow when Superman is around. And a friend of mine heard that and she's like, you guys have such a weird problem with Green Arrow because we had an argument about it before. You have such a crazy problem with Green Arrow. And I was like, you say crazy. I say Arrow with a boxing glove on the end of it. Well, I mean, that was the cool thing. No, and you see what's so hard about making Hawkeye cool. The only reason why they put Hawkeye in the Avengers movie was because A, they needed an actual movie star besides Robert Downey Jr. And B, they wanted to have the human characters have something to do. Every one of these super teams needs one super, one lame regular guy to kind of be in the battle so we can see how dangerous it is. Like Jeremy Renner and Scarlett Johansson showed us how dangerous the whole situation was while the supers were doing all their invulnerable super fighting. See, that's why I like the idea of doing shit like breaking the Flash's leg. Where you're like, oh yeah, the Flash is really, really fast but these things are tough. And Flash becomes almost useless with a broken leg. Exactly. He's the fastest limper in the fucking world. Yeah, I don't know. Like I said, I just really think, when you stack up the characters themselves versus the characters in the Avengers, you see the paucity of great characters in DC. You see how cool Batman is and how cool Superman is and the rest of them really are pale imitations of those two. And when you look at Marvel, there isn't a pale imitation of Wolverine except for all the 15 fucking Wolverine clones that they have. But it isn't like a whole genre of characters are Wolverine. A whole genre of characters are Wolverine. All the characters are Spider-Man. Spider-Man is the only spider dude besides the other three or four spider assholes. But all the companies have it where they duplicate the coolness of one character. But DC has it bad in that oh wow, Superman's so cool and Batman's so cool and everybody else seems just offshoots of them. Now let's make Green Arrow who is basically Batman with less skills except for he's really good with a bow and arrow. And that's it. That's literally all he's got going on for him. I feel like Batman at some point was in a room with a lot of different martial arts, a lot of different just weaponry where he was just training and everything, right? And training with masters and this master martial artist is like, and today we train with bow and he's like, eh, I'm never gonna need that. Eric Barnes says, arrow blows. Green Arrow was a great character in that I can't read this stuff very well. That's it, keep going. Pretend you're a six foot five Viking. That's Eric Barnes. You'll get the voice right. You have a great temper, a raging libido and his best stories would be when he'd topple over the villain yet lose everyone around him due to this horrible social behavior, leading his sidekick to drugs and ditching him. Cheating on black, you know, these comments gotta be shorter. Betting black lightning's niece. And indirectly causing her death, etc. You just have to abridge him, I guess. You see how much you have to do to make Green Arrow cool? You gotta have him fuck everybody and get them murdered to make him cool because when he does something as far as an adventure, it's always super lame. The only time he's ever been anywhere near cool was when he took it upon himself to show Green Arrow the world in that classic 60s or rather early 70s, I do believe it is run with Neil Adams drawing it and Denny O'Neill writing it. Green Lantern? Yeah, Green Lantern and Green Arrow had a team book. For like 10 issues or something. Beautifully illustrated, very good stories and it was all about how Green Arrow was always showing Green Lantern like, yo bro, you're always in space doing some shit, let's go to the ghetto, let's talk to some ghetto people. Green Lantern's like, um, excuse me, I don't want to go down there. I don't want my ring to be stolen and pawned at Sanford and Sons drug shop. This isn't white flight, this is green flight. Bye. You know, we could make an argument then that what we really want to see is a Superman Batman movie. I mean, honestly, that would be a better movie than a fucking Justice League movie. Even a Trinity movie. They have a story called Trinity that I've referenced before on this podcast. Which is wonderful and what it is is basically Ra's al Ghul gets together with Bizarro he kidnaps Bizarro and makes Bizarro his like slave so that he can like make Bizarro do all the shit. So he has an evil Superman. I gotta be honest, Bizarro would be the worst slave of all time. I mean, I know he's super strong and pervious and everything, but you're like, go, punch that guy. Okay, me punch him. And he just stands there and you're like, what? Oh, right, fuck. Don't punch that guy. Oh, yes, me not punch him. And then he runs over and punches him. You're like, oh, this is such a nice fucking thing. Why do I gotta talk? It's just like talking to Siri. If only I was Zatanna. Or Yoda. Yeah, Yoda could get Bizarro to do anything. He'd confuse him. Well, all I'm saying is Ra's al Ghul gets basically Bizarro to drop a nuclear bomb on Themyscira or whatever, the place where fucking Wonder Woman lives. So all of a sudden, Ra's al Ghul, the Batman villain, gets a Superman villain to fuck up Wonder Woman. And it draws Wonder Woman into the world and she comes out here just to kind of see what in the hell would drop a bomb on her homeland. And she starts meeting these two dudes, the two dudes. And it's so great. It's so great that those three could have a great movie together. Yeah. I love the... Yeah. I love the idea... Fuck those other losers, man. I love the idea of the switch. I love the idea of the do-si-do. When they're like, uh, you know who would be good against this guy? This other guy. That's why I love the introduction of Calculator as like the anti-Oracle. Let's talk about who we want to play Wonder Woman. I chose, for my casting article that I wrote on this, I chose Aisha Tyler. She's pushing too old. So, like, if they didn't make this movie tomorrow, then that's gonna be rough. But I honestly think they should find... They should find an unknown. Because the type of woman that has to play Wonder Woman, you need to get a big, scary, tough, fucking awesome woman. And they don't give them roles in Hollywood. Like, everybody that they've put up for consideration for Wonder Woman is like fucking 5'2". And you're like, go fuck yourself. Wonder Woman is like 5'10 minimum. Yeah. Like, this has gotta be an imposing figure. You gotta have someone that stands next to Batman and is bigger than him. Right. And Lucy, Lawless is a little bit too old. Yeah. Lucy Lawless would have been great back in the day. But, yeah. Men. No, I think Kevin Sorbo would make a good Wonder Woman. I think Lucy Lawless should play the mother. She'd play the original Wonder Woman. Yes. I think that that would be wonderful. That would be a great role for her. And, yeah, and they're kind of ageless, so we would be playing into the fact that she doesn't look old enough to be this beautiful, big woman. Right. But she's actually, like, you know, 300, or whatever years old. Right. She's actually 300 or something, so she's got two crow's feet. You know what I mean? But, I mean, I think what, and what, we've talked about this. I definitely think unknown, though. It's definitely gotta be unknown or Gina Carano. I don't care if she can act. That bitch is big and she looks like she can fight. Yeah. She's short, though, right? She's a tiny little brick, isn't she? Yeah, but if she's, like, a little brick, though, I would rather them skew towards a short, thick woman. As long as she's fucking tough. Yeah. A short, thick woman would be fine. I don't need her towering over dudes and stuff, because, honestly, What about Michelle Rodriguez? Oh, she's, eh, never mind. Well, yeah, Michelle Rodriguez, see, and that's another thing. They're never, and the rock means never. Ooh, there's a good point. Go ahead. Lucy Lawless is, I can never say this fucking lady's name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Wonder Woman's mom. Yeah, exactly. So, but that's what I'm saying. It's like, they're never gonna cast an ethnic woman as fucking Wonder Woman. They should. It's literally never gonna happen. It'd be okay. She's from the fucking Amazon. For whatever reason, the thing about Themyscira is, it's women of all varieties. Every time they show that, you see black women, blonde women, redhead women, like, it's tan women, light women. And one of them doesn't get to be Wonder Woman. Period. It's just not gonna happen. It's always a white girl. So, they're restricting themselves by white girls, and they're restricting themselves by the fact that, and let's be honest, they're restricting themselves by the fact that Wonder Woman's supposed to be attractive. They could find a giant, ugly bitch tomorrow. Yeah. Tomorrow. You go to a WNBA practice, you got 15 fucking Wonder Womans. Hey, Mrs. Parker's pretty cute. See, she's got that damn negra jean that keeps you from being Wonder Woman. So, rumor is Armie Hammer as Batman. Armie Hammer as Batman. Okay. I want Arlie Ermey. That's a rumor. No. Oh, no. He was the one who was cast in that movie that they're gonna make, like, three or four years. That got greenlit for a little while and then got canned. Well, and this... No, I think Armie Hammer would make a great Superman. Yeah, I think that would actually... If they go for a slightly younger casting because he doesn't look like he's that old, whatever. I think he... But him for Batman, I don't see it. I don't think of Batman as a huge dude. Can you pull up a picture of that dude? I've never seen him before. Armie Hammer? I don't even know what he's doing. The social network? He played the Winklevii, the Winklevoss twins in the social network. Oh. Oh, I think... He has a great chin. He's perfect for Superman. With dark hair, perfect for Superman. I think that guy would make a pretty dark Superman. I'm 6'5", 220 and there's two of me. That's a fucking great line. Yeah, there is. Yeah, there is? What the fuck? Yeah, yeah, there totally is. I can't speak English. You wanna take a minute and do some news? Yeah, I think that's about the time. We're gonna have Becky start her news for Nerd News. And while she's doing that, if you wanna send in a comment about your own idea, for a Justice League movie, or your own casting decision for Wonder Woman, that would be fantastic. Because we're looking for 5'9", 5'10", and above, and somebody... I mean, she can bulk up. Yeah. But it's gotta be somebody that can act, somebody that's big. Um, and so now here's gonna be my introduction. Hey, everybody. Uh, introduction. Yeah. Where's my... I can't find my mistake thing. Oh, here we go. Did that work? I don't even know what happened. I don't know if we heard it or not. It played in here. Alright, that's cool. So coming up next is our Nerd News with Becky Kluger! Alright, so the Wii U... We need to come up with a theme song? Theme song. Dropped yesterday. Um, so the Wii U is basically... It's the new Wii, and it's got like a... Yeah, it's sold out everywhere. And, um, I just found out that it's got graphics that are comparable to an Xbox or a PS3. Nice. So... Except it's still a Wii. Wah, wah, wah. Yeah, it doesn't look too appealing. It's $300 for the basic, or $350 for the one that you should get, because it's way better. Um, if you want, like, actual nerd news, there's a brand new magazine coming out on Wednesday that you can pick up in most comic book stores called Bleeding Cool Magazine. Um, there's like a Bleeding Cool website. Wait, a physical magazine? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a real future in that. Magazine number one is coming out on Wednesday. Now is the perfect time to start a physical magazine, everybody. Damn it, they could be a sponsor for us. Shut the fuck up. Please stop ruining shit for us. The way they sold it at Comic-Con is that it'll be like Wizard, only good. Um... Oh, snap. What... Can we talk about this for one second? What the fuck happened to Wizard? I don't know if it used to be amazing. Wizard was a magazine that talked with intelligence and humor about the shit that we were into, and then it just started to become Nerd GQ. Yeah. And it, like, and then they started, everything became a countdown. They, like, fired everybody that was, like, a mainstay. Like, every, like, the people who answered the letters and the people who did this column and that column, whatever. And suddenly, like, it didn't even closely resemble what it used to be. My bet is that somebody bought it when it started doing well and then ruined it, which happens, you know, frequently. So it got stated. That's what I would bet. A state from MTV got bought by CBS when it was doing really well, and they played one special and then fucking threw it away. Exactly. Show's overrated. Alright, moving on. I agree, Kluger. Also new in the nerd world, I have a new girlfriend who's a super big nerd. And she's a huge fan of the show Fringe, and there are only six episodes left. No spoilers. I haven't seen this season at all. I'm waiting for this season to be done. If you have not seen the show, starting tomorrow, there's going to be a Fringe marathon on the Science Channel all through Thanksgiving. I don't have TV. And if you don't have TV, then you're a peasant. You don't deserve to watch Fringe. I don't know how you're listening to a podcast. I'm just kidding. Don't stop looking at me like that. Listeners, you can't see the evil stare I'm getting. The MMORPG, The Old Republic, went free. Yeah. I just downloaded it. So now there's something else I can't do for free now that I'm in law school, and it takes too much time. I'm really upset about it. Just, if you're listening, don't go to law school. By the way, this is nerd news that I take very personally with a mental illness, Twinge. That was my pitch. No, guys, for serious, we need lawyers so much. There are, like, no lawyers in the world. We need as many as we could possibly get. Please, everybody go to law school. Guys, if you think you want to do something because you think you'll be able to help people, it might just be because you think your dad doesn't love you. I'm trying to make up for that. But keep drawing it. And, like, you just, you really, what you really want to do is play The Old Republic because you loved Knights of the Old Republic and Knights of the Old Republic 2. That's what you really, all right, moving on. You mean you loved Knights of the Old Republic and pretty liked Knights of the Old Republic 2. Yeah. You liked it a lot. You didn't love it, but you liked it a lot. They sold it off to whatever. All right. The dude that plays Lando Calrissian. Billy Dave Williams. Billy Dave Williams. Helping in the writing process for episode 7. What? Yeah. Does he write movies? Billy Dave Williams? Has he written anything else? I'm not, like, an educated news person, but... Ron's got a computer. He wrote those Colt 45 ads. Did he really? I don't know. They're like, look, here's a bottle. Sell this shit. And he's like, you know, Colt 45, this is awfully smooth. When are we filming our commercial? They're like, we're done. Yeah, exactly. Don't let the smooth take over. Please fool ya. And Dagobah or Bespin. Also going on in the nerd world, The Walking Dead has been really good. No spoilers. Haven't seen this. All right. Well, here's the thing. I think that if you haven't been... I'm sorry to be that guy. You should really read it, because here's what I think. If you read the comics, it doesn't ruin the show for you at all. But I think if you watch the show before the comics, it does kind of ruin the comics a little bit. So I just wanted to give some advice out there. And also, I have a really good... Home Entertainment System. I just wanted to brag about that. It is actually super impressive. The difference between The Walking Dead comic and The Walking Dead TV series is kind of like the difference between Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Bastards and actual history. So, like, it's kind of the same characters, but nothing happens the same. Like, you get kind of big things like the prison happens in both. The, you know... So it's a bunch of the characters they have in common, but then there are characters that aren't in one and are in the other. And vice versa. And also, though, I do have to warn people who watch the television show, you think that's violent. You think that's horrific. You're like, oh, wow, this is the most violent thing I've ever seen on regular cable TV. You'd be right about that. It's still got nothing on the fucking comic book. The comic book has some grotesque, upsetting things. So be prepared for that. So it looks like Billy Dee Williams is actually... wants to be included in the comic book. He wants to be included. He's going to be included in the next Star Wars movie. And he is going to be included. It's written by Michael Arndt. Yeah, Michael Arndt from Toy Story 3. And in the present treatment right now, it does have Michael Arndt. And it also is going to have everybody, pretty much Luke, Han, Leia, Billy Dee Williams. Yeah, Carrie Fisher accidentally let it slip. I mean, everybody kind of assumed it anyway, but she was at a book signing, and she let it slip that they were all going to be back. All right. She didn't mention Lando, though. It does look like Lando's going to be in it. Awesome. Also, if you're serious for prepping for zombie apocalypses... Ooh. I'm interested in this. You should really... The last season of Doomsday Preppers was so good. The second season started last week. It is such an amazing show. I think it's really... It's going to be studied years from now as part of our social history. But if you... Like, really... Especially if you're prepping for the zombie apocalypse, you're prepping for, like, the easiest apocalypse probable. So if you learn how to prep from this show for a polar shift, which if you don't know what that is, it's when the South Pole and the North Pole flip, which is geologically impossible, but many people are preparing for it. You need to be more than prepared for zombies. So watch that Tuesdays on National Geographic. And if you don't have TV, again, just... I don't know if... You can download things. Yeah, you... BitTorrent. In this month's Avengers Academy, there was a lesbian kiss. Moving on. The comic book Harbinger. What two characters? I don't remember. Oh, I think it was Lesbo and Lesbiana. You never saw that shit coming. Well, I thought they were both straight. What comic book? Avengers Academy. Yeah. We used to read that for a long time. It was a pretty well-done... Well-done comic. Yeah, read the comic book Harbinger. And here's what's cool about the new Valiant comics. I didn't read them back in the day. This is like their reboot. When you pick up a new issue, there's actually... On the first page, it's like, here's what's happened up to now. So you can jump in now, even though you've missed the last couple months. And that's pretty neat. If you like the game Deus Ex, a movie is going to be happening from the 2011 game, which is cool. And by the way, I just... Directed by Uwe Boll. Is that true? No. Probably. Directed by the dude that did Sinister, which I just saw. And kids are fucking creepy. It's lazy. Rogue kissed Rom. Oh, no, no. That's not lesbian. The Space Knight? Rogue kissed the Space Knight? Yeah. They brought the Space Knight back? I don't know when I missed that. Wait, so does she have Space Knight powers now? Probably. Oh, but Rom lacked superpowers at the time. This is actually a little while. Did it kill her? The kiss? No. Yeah, it should have. I can't find the lesbian kiss that happened. Well, just type in lesbian into the Google search bar. I did. Avengers Academy lesbian kiss. Oh, let's try it this way. Did you put the quotes or whatever around Avengers Academy? You have to put avenging lesbians kiss. Add in leather. It just makes everything more fun. Turn off safe search and put fan art in it. Yeah. Also, new in nerd world, my comic book guy didn't piss me off this Wednesday. This past Wednesday. That's because he wasn't there. Someone was filling in for him. It's pretty specific news, but okay. No, but me and Becky had the same comic book guy. Everybody who is Becky had this experience. No, fuck that. Me and Becky had the same comic book guy. I don't want to talk to somebody about this. Are you guys afraid to say? We can't do that. Well, then what the fuck is this then? Then he'll know that we... By the way, everybody who goes to that shop that we're not saying... I'll give him a positive plug so that we can talk about it. He gives 30% off new comics on Wednesdays. It's DJ's Universal Comics. There you go. So this guy... Wait, wait. The one at Universal Studios? No, it's in Studio City near Universal, I guess. You know what's... No, no, no. There's one that's actually in the Universal thing. No, no, no. But that's the one thing I want to say right off the bat. That's a cool place. I got to say, it's disgusting how good a comic book store that store is instead of Universal. It is. It's insane. It's insane how many copies they have of almost everything and like a phone booth. They have like a phone booth set up with every damn thing in the world. Their place is like the size of this studio, which is tiny if you're actually watching it on the camera. And yeah, they've got a ton of stuff. And they've even got like fucking individual hero clicks. And most places don't even have that. And they got no room at all. Statues, graphic novels. Yeah. Yeah. But DJ... The one thing about the guy at DJ's is just like he'll seize on something about you and like attack it while he's trying to sell you some comics. Like I was in there in business attire looking at some books. I hadn't touched anything ethnic at all. I was just looking at some books. And he literally comes up to me and starts lecturing me about how shitty the black Spider-Man is. Like not Spider-Man in a black suit, but just the new black young guy Spider-Man in the Ultimates universe. He just starts coming up to me and goes, what they got to make everyone black? They make them gay. They make them black. And I'm just like, dude, number one, there's more blacks and gays. And he's like, I don't see none in my store. And I'm just like, dude, you got me and Becky, fuck face. I don't understand. So it's just that dude is really hilarious. And I think he just likes to push buttons. And he does give really great discounts. And I buy a lot of art books over at his store. So rock and roll, DJ. He talks shit about the comics I buy. It's like, I wish I had a comic book. I wish I had a comic book guy that made me feel like me. You know what I mean? I used to. When I worked at a comic book store, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed, I would always ask people what they read and then go based on that of, oh, okay, well, you might also like this thing. I mean, that's the way to sell people. Sell them on stuff that they will like. The worst kind of, I got to say, that's not the worst comic book store employee, though. The worst comic book store employee is when you're like, hey, do you have the new Avengers? I don't know, man. I don't know, man. He's like, well, you know, do you have the new Uncanny X-Men? That's that thing with Wolverine? Yeah, yeah. We didn't lose any audio. I don't know. We never heard. Mandy said we lost audio for a second. No, we didn't. Oh, and it's Julie Power is one of the lesbians who kissed. From the Power Pack? Yeah. Damn. They're like a Power Pack girls, lesbians. Well, I mean, I guess. I don't know. She always was. Here's two of them. I can see. Here's the picture of them kissing. But I don't know the other one. Is that the. Okay, so that's light speed is Julie Power. And I don't know who the other one is. Yeah. I don't recognize any of them. They're both flying, though. And that's hot. Yeah, I like my girls flying. I want to fly and hold hands. She looks like she's flying with rainbows. So she might be from Runaways. She looks like she's the girl from Runaways. Yeah. So I guess she broke up with her skull girl boyfriend. Oh, other news. Windows 8 came out a while ago and four people bought it. My friend Chris told me to say that. By the way, my friend Chris has been exercising. And every time he tells me about it, I feel like what he's saying to me is you're a piece of shit, Becky. But I know that what he's just saying is like. I should just be like, hey, good for you. Good for you. But I can't do it. I just. Does he make you. Go ahead. I was gonna say, does he make you look at his abs? No, no. He's just like, oh, yeah, I went running today. We're talking about our day. Well, I mean, Becky, you and I are very similar. I do also take other people's achievements as a slight against me. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely do that. You know, like, yeah, I definitely do that. So like, I can't congratulate him because I'm too busy being like, what the fuck are you trying to say? Well, I kind of do the opposite where I go around being awesome and it just pisses people off. Yeah, I go around saying I'm consistent. That pisses people off. But you do it all the time. Yeah. You do say that every single day. I am consistently consistent. OK, so we got two minutes or so left. I want to talk about first off, we didn't decide. I think you know what I'm going to say? I think the Justice League movie is a bad idea. I think it's going to go wrong. And the reason I think that is because Green Lantern sucked dick. Batman's were decent movies, but I feel like they weren't even good for the Batman world. We've talked about this. Batman caused all the fucking problems is and we're going to talk more about this in two episodes, by the way, December 3rd, we're going to have a Batman and Superman movie conversation and just talk about how bad and or good and which movies we liked the best out of all of those movies. But I think they shouldn't even make it. They're going to. But I think it's going to be bad. That's what I think's going to happen. OK, so you're not saying. He's going to be gay if Garth Ennis wrote it. Yeah. No. What? I love Garth Ennis. Garth Ennis hates superheroes. Yeah. Yeah. I think that would be the point. I think it could be really good. I think you could do a really awesome thing with it. And they're going to dumb it down. That's what I think. I think that they are not going to let they're not going to just have us wait until next season. That's what I think. That's what I think. have a Justice League movie that's not a fucking origin story. And nobody is interested in seeing another goddamn origin story. Everybody knows where Batman came from. Everybody knows where Superman came from. Eric Barnes had a great point is the movie will go wrong because they'll try to make it like Avengers because Avengers made money and that's exactly what they're going to do. Right. They needed to introduce the Avengers with their own movies and with, okay, here's how they get together, whatever, because people that weren't nerds didn't know that stuff. Well, see, but that's the thing. But they still liked it. But that's the problem and this will remain their problem. They don't have four or five cool-ass characters to be using. They don't. They got two and a bunch of also-ran douches. Wally West, I mean, all of the Flash's origin stories, they spilled chemicals on themselves. That's it. And got shot by lightning at the same time. Are you fucking kidding me? So if you're a klutzy chemist, you have a straight line. There's no interesting thing about their characters as people. All right. We don't have any more time. Plugs. And my second plugs. Edgrid Destroys on Twitter. I never tweet, but hey, follow me and see if I do. I'm Matt Blackwood on Twitter and also listen to my podcast, What Were We Talking About on iTunes. Dorky Swallow on Twitter. Tonight is my show on Toyo Ryo Improv, the 21st. Becky. Becky Kluger on Facebook. Saturday, Flappers. Woo-hoo! Angry Dorks Mondays. We'll see you next time. Bye for now.