Karen Centerfold on breakup, ticket, and documentary

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Hold on. All right, ready? I didn't break that. Well, good. Who else did? You were the only one fucking screaming on it like an ass. Hey, nobody would be quiet, man. No shit. Nobody wants to hear your crap. All right, Karen. Oh, they do. Oh, yeah. Everybody wants to hear what the fuck Karen's hair folds up to. It's fun when you're not breaking stuff, you know? All you have to do is fucking be quiet. I would have delivered a speech to make this fucking station famous. You didn't do it. Yeah. Well, you broke a mic, and now it's a problem. It's famous now. It's a good radio show. Is it? No. But still, they could get to it. That was an accident, but, you know, I'm sure it's fine. All right. Well, do it live. Okay. Broadcasting from downtown Los Angeles. We'll do it live. Fuck it. It's the More Music Radio Pod. Do it live. I'll write it, and we'll do it live. On skidrow.la. Fucking thing sucks. In five, four, three. It's the more music radio pod on skidrowstudios.com. All right. We are here, or I am here with Karen Centerfold. Dan's not here tonight, Karen. Yeah, I know. Oh, hold on. Wait a second. There you go. All right. Welcome, Karen. Yeah. Dan's not here tonight. No, he's not. You think he's very handsome. I think he's very handsome. Sure. He's married. Yeah, I know. But has that ever stopped you before? Oh, I've been seeing somebody for 12 years, you know? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I broke up with somebody, Robert, you know? Oh, yeah. That's right. You were telling me about that earlier. Yeah. It's a bummer breaking up, right? Who did the breaking? Boyfriend and honestly, sugar daddy. And I knew him for like, I've known him for 12 years, and he keeps calling me back, you know? And apparently, he was born with a very, very small heart. Oh, I thought you were going to say small dick. No, no, no, no. He has a very, very, very small heart, and he called me up trembling, and he said, you know what? I'm going to have this trailer trash girl move in with me. He didn't say trailer trash, but a lady from the South, a brunette. And he doesn't even like brunettes, you know? He told me I was all he wanted, you know? Oh, man. And so, he said, she's approximately 44 years old. And so, he said, and she- I'm not following that. She doesn't make me wear rubbers like you do, you know, like I made him wear rubbers for 12 years. He never put it in my pussy. Why not? Because I told him, if you want to put it in there, you can just marry me or give me marriage money, you know? And he resented that so much 12 years later when he got his pension from working for the Air Force as an electrician that he, you know, he said, well, I'm not going to do that. And I said, fine, then you can just go out and sleep with the, and I used a word I can't use on Skid Row radio. Oh, you could use any word. I know. I know that, but, you know, I don't want to use that word. You know, I just told him, fine, you can just see that trailer trash girl from Mississippi. So, you know, I mean- So, he dumped you for another woman? He is trying to make me take the rubbers off him so he can have sex with me, you know, without keeping his promise. Like, he promised to marry me. He promised to marry me. He promised to marry me. He promised to marry me. He promised to marry me. He promised to marry me. He promised to marry me. He promised to marry me. He promised to marry me. And he was really impressed with me, with everything I do and everything I've done. He was, you totally turned him on, right? Well, yeah, he's- What kind of things did you do for him that he enjoyed? He's a submissive. He likes S&M and I did it both ways. Oh. And would you put things in his butthole? I did that, yeah. What's that? What's that all about? Like, he likes that? He does. Yeah, he's submissive and he's dominant. That reminds me of the show that we have on Skid Row, Love Bite. They do that kind of stuff. Oh, that's a good name for it. That's a good name for it. And maybe if you support me, I might be able to get you a lot of viewers for something like that. Right. So anyway, he'll call me back and he will pester me. He's also trying to move to Las Vegas and I won't really miss him. So I went from doing that to trying to do community service. Instead of wasting $200, a judge today scared me, you know, and I have to write the judge a letter and have a lawyer sign it because the judge was asking me for money and I don't believe that I should have to pay money. I think I should be able to do community service instead of paying money for a jaywalking ticket. And I also fell down last month. Oh, wow. There's a lot of stuff happening with you. And at the end of last month. You've been having a lot of bad luck lately, you've been telling me. No, not bad luck, just situations. And I'm dealing with real, real low class people that are out and about, you know. Just fucking shitheads, huh? Oh, yeah. Well, the thing is, is like I can outdo them. In other words, I stood up for myself when my boyfriend, my ex-boyfriend, Robert, lied to me, you know. And he's introverted. He has all these problems. And he's a woman hater. And I was trying to change that about him and I couldn't. He'll be a woman hater and go and all he does is fight women. And he'll be like that for the rest of his life. His wife divorced him because he's into too much kinkiness and S&M. His children, he did not get to see his children grow up at all. And he said, my wife... Do you think we can call him? Oh, no. No, I don't want to do that. Because then you're saying, that's kind of like saying, hey, Karen will let you lie to her and breach on your promises. And that's the wrong thing to do. Well, I want to get all the details about what's been going on. And you know what? Let's play a couple songs, take another break, get some air. And we'll be right back with Karen Centerfold on the More Music Radio Pod. And Skid Row Radio. All right. All right. We took this offensively. The More Music Radio Pod. Oh! You took all my love from me. Skid Row. L.A. Oh! Oh! When I last, we were free And this town is gonna see Just what it really means to me I can't breathe, I can't breathe I can't lose what is mine How it is, what they've done We've been born, so we fall And our soul is gone I can't take this anymore The time has come and you're no school You're a path and I'm out the door I can't breathe I can't breathe But I last, we were free And this town is gonna see Just what it really means to me I can't breathe, I can't breathe I can't lose what is mine How it is, what they've done We've been born, so we fall And our soul is gone Digging and screaming It's the way I've become Say all of the dead It's the way I should know Leave them with nothing Nothing can show you I don't know what I'm going to do I can't see what I'll see It just ain't no good to know I'm going crazy I'm going crazy I'm going crazy What is dying? How it is, what they've done We've been born, so we fall And our soul is gone Digging and screaming It's the way I've become Say all of the dead It's the way I should know Leave them with nothing Nothing can show you Regaining the balance Regaining the balance guitar solo guitar solo www.skidrow.la Are you FAA or FCC? We're DIY. DIY? What's that mean? Do it yourself. Do it yourself. guitar solo Soon I will be coming home And you won't have to cry no more As soon as I walk through that door I wanna know what it is you miss about me I wanna know I need to realize I hope to recognize your soul Something's telling me that I have to remember a life from a thousand years ago guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo guitar solo The moon is shining on your shore And my mouth is pointed at that light My tongue tastes like salt water Kisses I need you in my sights To make things right I wanna know I need to realize I need to realize I want to recognize your soul Something's telling me that I have to remember a life from a thousand years ago guitar solo guitar solo I need to realize I hope to recognize your soul I need to realize I hope to recognize your soul Three thousand years ago Three thousand years ago Three thousand years ago Hey, my name is Gil Cerezo from the band Kinky and you're listening to the More Music Radio Pod. Kinky and Cerezo Kinky and Cerezo What's bothering you? That leeches, people that are... Can you lower that music, Nick? She's in a bad mood tonight. Could you lower that even more? What's bothering me is that I'm just a totally nice person and there's all these leeches out in this culture and they ask you to trust them and you try and do it and then they... Screw you. They screw you over. And I wasn't prepared for all the problems I've got right now. All I'm asking to have happen is I'm just trying to do some community service and not get ripped off for like $200 in a court. There was a judge, an 80-year-old black man, 80-year-old black judge. So what happened? You were in court today, right? Yeah, this morning and on Hill Street. And I got... I got a jaywalking ticket from this ugly-looking dyke. You know, lesbian. Oh, I was going to tell you if the cop was going to give you a ticket, you should have offered to like suck him off or give him a handy or something. It was a dyke. It was a dyke. A hardcore lesbian, you know. Would you lick a lady? Oh, no, but anyway. Not that... I couldn't... The judge... That's not your thing. The judge was scaring me, you know. And so I couldn't really... I pleaded no contest, but he made me think, like, that the entire fine was like $25. It was that he actually increased it by $24. And I'm just unhappy about that, you know. Oh. And I can... I will get over this small, small-hearted boyfriend of mine who has a very, very, very small heart that hates women. And I got over a head contusion, you know. So you fell down. So, okay. So we already know the boyfriend. Get back to that. That seems very complicated. But how did you fall down and hit your head? I had a guy HIV tested in a clinic. And I obviously... You like to test all your lovers, right? All the guys. Well, I don't have a lot of lovers, you know. I'm real particular. I broke up with my boyfriend, Sugar Daddy Robert, who is 61 years old, something like that. And I had a guy, a rock singer, living with me that all these people at the Five Star met, Alan from Arizona. And he was living out of his car because he was sort of a sleazy street bum, you know. And I said... Where'd you meet him? At the Sancho's Art Gallery during a germ show with Don Bowles. Like, or just Don Bowles. It wasn't a germ show. And, you know, he was pretty nice. And, like... I used all these safety precautions on him. But I said, oh, so you want to stay with me, right? I said, well, I have got to test you for diseases. Is it true that when a woman looks at a guy, she already knows, or he or she already knows that if she's going to sleep with him or not within the first, like, 10 seconds? Um, no. There's different women have different ideas about what they're going to do and what they're not going to do. This guy, did you feel? I thought with him, he would be good intimately. And I used... Super precautions on him. And he was good, but he was a sleazy street bum that was privately taking speed. And, um... He was, uh, pussy, uh, nasty. And, um, he did some favors for me. Like, he bought me a nice outfit that was expensive. So he had a lot of money. No, he didn't, actually. So how did he get the money to buy the expensive outfit? Um, he's got some money, but he's actually limited. And anyway... Anyway... Anyway, I had some plans for him, but he had absolutely no class. So when he called me back, I just said, um... Um, you know, thank you, Alan. You know, and I was nice to you. Um, I gotta go, you know. And he was shocked about that, you know. And anyway, you were asking me how I felt. Yeah. I tested my, um... You took him to get an AIDS test, right? Yeah. Where do you take somebody to get an AIDS test? At a clinic that does it anytime. How long does it take? 20 minutes. Wow, really? Yeah, they do. I thought you had to wait for like a couple weeks. No, no, no, no. They can tell if you have HIV by doing an oral pink stick test around your gums. Does that mean that you have to put a pink penis in your mouth? No, you put... A nurse puts a... I don't think that's a test. I think that might be tricking them. A medical assistant puts a pink HIV stick test in your upper and lower gums. And it can tell... They can tell whether you have... Does it shoot out cream like a medicine or something? Yeah, inside. Inside the mouth. And so I came out clean. What does that taste like? I'm trying to answer your question. Uh-oh. I came out clean. I was looking for Alan. Alan did not come back to the clinic for over an hour. It made me think he might have HIV. And I had just broken up with my boyfriend who was also clean. And I didn't know where he was, so I fell down the stairs. I fell palms first. And my head fell up against a wall. And it hurt. I had a huge, huge swelling, you know, an inch high. And they gave me an ice pack. And it... How many stairs? It came down two stairs. Oh, okay. So it wasn't like a whole huge flight. To make it short, I got over that. And Alan came back. His test was negative. But I kicked him out of my place anyway. Because I offered... Was the wall that you fell on okay? Wait a second. I offered to have him move in for like only $400 to live with me. Yeah. Which he could make money talking about me. Right. He could, yeah. And so I kicked him out because he didn't want to share in the rent. And he was pissed at me. You know, he said, oh, let me sleep in your bed. I said, give me $400. I'll let you move in. He didn't do it. So I kicked him out. And that's life. Did you have sex with him? Yeah. He was really good. But he was a sleazy street bum. And there's not much future for sleazy street bums. What do you mean by really good? Like what is a good lover to Karen Sinterkold? He was good having intercourse. And I can't really explain it because I'm not getting paid to explain it. Well, please. Come on. And there's other topics. Don't be afraid to talk about it. I mean, I hate it when people are afraid and they don't want to talk about stuff. Come on. I'll talk about that if Skid Row Radio ever gets upscale. Well, do you know Skid Row Studios is moving to New York? And in fact, that's where Jeremy's at. Jeremy's here right now. Well, he's not there right now. He's already on the road. He's creating a Skid Row there. Yeah. Skid Row Studios in New York. If the Skid Row's here and it moves up in scale, I might come back, you know? Oh, wow. It's always a night to you. You know, it wasn't too happy that you were going to come back. It was still, remember the whole mic killing? You killed the mic that one time. But I vouched for you. That'll never happen again. Just try your best to have more. You lose your temper. You lose your temper a lot, huh? Let's put it this way. And I'm not out to like insult you, you know? Uh-oh. Let it loose. I have known you for a lot of years. Skid Row Radio isn't really going far. Skid Row Radio could really go far. What are the some tips? We need some tips. Sure. You let somebody important or somebody that has status talk about something important and make a point for at least 10 minutes nonstop. Like Raffi Bingham? Raffi Bingham? Talk about him. Yeah. You were telling me he's a racist. You always say he's a racist and stuff. He's prejudiced. Yeah. I mean, I have anybody. We need like a star to run the thing, right? I don't understand what you're saying. So how do we do it? Let's say you're in charge of Skid Row Studios LA. Let's say everybody elects you to be in control of it. What would be your first step? My first step would be to see if Jeremy could get the grounds to sell products. Get advertisers here to make it money and get serious. I hope he's listening right now. I hope he is too, Jeremy, if you're listening. He was supposed to be here, but he took off earlier. Answering the question. Concentration, Vince. Yeah. Just don't touch that mic. Remember what happens when you touch the mic. Concentration. It means that you let somebody who knows what they're talking about make a seriously important point. Yeah, but I need you to get to the point, Karen. Sometimes you ramble and you ramble and it's like I can't take it. You get to the point. You get to the point. You talk about. Evidence of somebody being prejudiced and you talk about that for 10 minutes straight and you keep viewers tuned in. Right. Viewers that buy products that advertisers advertise on a radio station like this to make it famous. In other words, like K-Rock was always a racist, sexist, prejudice station and it still is. The reason that they're prejudiced against blacks and they don't want their music to come up. Yeah. Because somebody like Rodney being a mimer and all the other people there feel that black people are going to kick their butts and move in there and practice their music and stuff like that. So they don't know how to get along with black people and they have all these other prejudices, you know. And so, but they've been around a long time and they're pretty much passe anyway because today, I mean like there's all these stations that go on computer. Yeah. Like I was on. Yeah. I was on. We're on the computer right now. I was on Magic Monster Radio on Monday. Oh, the other day. On Monday night, yeah. Were you in a better mood over there? Sort of. I talked about the time when I was in the Coast Guard, you know, and I had to wear like an orthopedic bra and I didn't have my. Because your tits were too big or. No, because it's a policy, you know, and in the military and I was a flotilla member. I had to guard the coast. I bet you were a flotilla because you would float, right? Because your big tits. Right. And somebody, Matt, talked about being in the army in Germany and then we talked about prejudiced people like poor man. Rodney. Do you want to call poor man? We got his number. Should we get him on the phone? We can try. Let's see if he'll. You can try. Yeah. You know, maybe after the next break, I think Nick might have the number over there and we might, you know, let's try to make some calls and stuff. Maybe we can call up Don Bowles. I know he said that he wanted to call in. But I don't know. We can't take calls right now, can we? Are you going off through the air? Oh, OK. When you let's talk like because like when when I stop talking, it just goes dead and they can't hear you talking. We want I want everybody to hear Nicholas. All right. Everybody, this is Nick. You're talking, right? Are you on? There you go. All right. I can take calls, but I can't make any calls right now. My screen is acting boring. Buggy right now. OK, but we can take calls at eight hundred eight nine three nine five six two. Right. Yeah. All right. Cool. I don't know. Maybe what I can do is I can maybe use my phone call on three way and do it like that. Maybe we could try that shit when we get. See, we're thinking, man, you and I were a team. We're going to figure out the solid team, man. I mean, I know Dan's not here. I know Jeremy and Sony are not here, but it's you and me. And Karen Centerfold makes three. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That rhymes. Yeah. You know. You know. Yeah. Hey, well, you know what? Let's take another break. We're going to play another couple songs. And when we get back, we'll try to make some phone calls and we'll talk more with Karen Centerfold on the more music radio pod. All right. Here we go. Have you got the bathroom key? The more music radio. Broadcasting Internet. Downtown. On. On. Skin. Radio. Dot. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. Oh, man. We got this shit playing shit again. You know what I mean? It's playing all the same things again. This is a night when things mess up. This is a night. This is a test, Nick. So hold on. Let me try to stop this. I'm going to try to restart the program. And let's talk a little bit. Karen Centerfoot went to go to, I don't know where she's going to go right now. She's going to go to the restroom or something. Talk to me, man. I got to get this shit rebooted. So every once in a while, this program that we use to play the songs and stuff, like it goes wacky and it'll start playing all the stuff all at once. And so what's that? No, no, no. Go on air, man. Yeah, yeah. When we're talking, yeah, let's go on air, man. All right, dude. Yeah, I'm trying to figure it out over here. I'm text messaging with Jeremy to try and get my monitor to display everything that, I guess what you're seeing. I'm on the talk room monitor. I'm supposed to be able to control it all back here, but everything is working right now beyond the screen. So I'm trying to tech it out with him right now. So we'll figure it out. Everything will be all right. We're just, we're still on the, we're still doing the show right now and it's being broadcasted. So everything will be all right, dude. Yeah. Okay. Well, I wonder if Jeremy's listening right now. If Jeremy, if you're listening, please call up, man. Karen Centerfold's in the restaurant right now. Who knows what she's doing? She's probably taking a shit or something. Yeah. Yeah, man. So this is, this is our first test and maybe we should just like not have any guests and it could just be me and you, man. Just BSing on the mics back and forth. Yeah. Just talking. I'm back here. Yeah. Talking too. All right. All right. I still, we should still play music though. Cause I like when we play music, man. It adds more. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get that shit fucking situated right now. Yeah. It's hard, man. Because like when this, when this is actually the, the second time that I've, that I've used this thing. Yeah. And so like, I got to try to, I had everything fucking planned out. It was all good here. And it is now I got to reload this shit, man. So why don't, why don't you take over, man? Why don't you talk to us about working at Skid Row Studios? How did you get here, man? How'd you, how'd this come about? All right. So I was on, I was on, I was actually on Facebook and I was looking at a person who has a show here. Lee from Pina. Not the hour. Right. He has a show and I have him on my friends list and he had a post saying they were looking for some interns. So I got the information from the post and it was Jeremy's email. I emailed him and he told me to come the next day to check it out. And so I did for a little tour and see what they were all about. And ever since then, I've been coming back and working or interning. And now I work here, working here behind the soundboard. And it's been probably nearly a month I've done. You like it here, right? Yeah. I like it here a lot. It's the best media related job. It's, it's like so fun. I want to say it's like, it's too fun to be a job. It's just, it's a really, it's really awesome over here. It's been good working with all the hosts and their guests. It's fun. It's fun to be back here working sound and it's just good times, man. It's a very interesting and nothing but a good time. It's not a, there's never a dull moment or anything. So yeah, I've been here about a month and anytime it gets a little better. Yeah. And yeah, it's been good. Is everything streaming okay? Did Jeremy say that everything was streaming? Yeah. He's hearing it? Yeah. Okay. Well, then maybe he can call 800-893-9562 and call us up. So I think because Patrick was supposed to be coming down. You remember Patrick, right? Yeah, I do. Yeah. So he was supposed to be coming down and he said that he can't really hear the, the, what do you call it? The songs. The signal's not going through? Yeah, that's what he said. But you know. You're not playing any songs right now, right? Cause I have the fader for that turned down. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. So what else is new, man? What do you think Karen Centerville, okay, so Karen's not here right now. Yeah, maybe she. Were you freaked out? Cause you, have you ever met Karen Centerville before? I had only seen her around town once before. I've only been in LA for four months and I remember I was at a show about a month or two ago and I saw her there at the show, but it wasn't until they showed me a picture of her later and I realized I saw her in public before that I put two and two together and she's here with us right now and she doesn't, she doesn't trip me out. So what do you think? Is she fine or what? Would you plug her? I don't, I don't know, dude. She's probably in there. She's probably in there taking a shit. No doubt. Oh, here she comes. Oh yeah. Well, she's great. Yeah. And that's why I always like to have her on the show is she's always awesome. And it's just a really cool man. Yeah. No doubt. Yeah. All right. Let's get back to what we're doing, what we do. Yeah. All right. Well, let me see. I think I got this thing figured out where we're going to be able to play some songs and stuff. Okay. How are you doing? All right. You know, like Karen, I was showing her how, how, you know, we're playing these songs and stuff. And so she can see how complicated it is. Well, what do you think about this? What songs? All these, all this stuff that we're, I was showing you the, the program right now. I'm getting everything ready to, because we're going to go try to try to do this break again. So, all right, Karen, when we get back, we're going to talk to you more about your breakup and more about everything. We can just talk to you about anything. We already talked about that. Yeah. Well, we'll talk about whatever. We're just trying to get back into the groove of things. I think we're ready, man. And we'll be back. All right. Let's try this again. We'll be back on the more music radio pod. All right. Money on your mouth, right? Oh, Jesus. Jesus. Jesus. Oh, Jesus. Oh, Jesus. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, Jesus. Jesus. Oh, Lord. Jesus. Lord. Jesus. Oh, shit. Oh, that was awesome. That was awesome. That was awesome. That was awesome. Oh, no. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, Lord. Jesus. Oh, Jesus. Get the water, nigga. Jesus Christ. Lord have mercy. Get the water, nigga. It's going down. Oh, this motherfucking bootleg fireworks shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Woo. The more music radio pod. Broadcast. The International from downtown Los Angeles. On Skid Row.com. Hell, hell, hell, hell, hell, hell, hell, hell, hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. encourage me to kind of go straight a little bit, right? Not sexually because I'm already there, but I'm saying drug-wise and alcohol-wise, you want me to go straight. I'm telling you to minimize your intake on alcohol and weed because you want to be straight because you know, if you get into serious situations. I might overdose on weed, right? No, no, no. That's not possible. It's just that tomorrow something serious might come up and you've got to be able to deal with whatever it is because you want to take life really seriously and if leeches get a hold of you like real screwed up mean people are trying to take advantage of you and you don't know what to do. If you're straight, you'll really know what to do, but if you're coming down from weed still and a night where you smoked a lot of it, you may not know what you're doing the next day, you know, so that's the importance to say the least of getting clean. Right. Okay. Well, I mean, so do you think I have a problem or something? Oh, no, I don't think you have a problem. I'm just suggesting trying that you try and be straighter than you usually are, you know, and you're not too bad. I know guys that are still doing coke, speed, drinking heavy, and it catches up to you. It catches up to you and it! Keep going. Oh, I'm sorry. It catches up to you. Mm-hmm. I'm trying to actually try to get in on the phone call thing. We can't make phone calls right now, but I tried calling with my cell phone right now, and I think that's where the confusion is. All right. I think that's what all that noise is. Is it? Yeah. All right. Well, I mean, all I really do is I don't drink too much. I mean, sometimes when I'm like kind of stressed out or something, I'll start drinking a lot, and I'll start smoking smoking like weed. And stuff, and like, man, I'm just going down the wrong road, aren't I? No. I mean, like, you know, you really got to see your doctor. You got to test yourself out. Do you smoke weed every day? Uh, well, I've never tried marijuana, but one day, I think one day I'll try it. I don't think I do it right. All right. I think I smoke weed right every day. No, I smoke weed quite often, but practically every day. I don't. Every day, yeah. I don't. Why not? What kind of stuff do you do? You never really talk about... I'm straight most of the time. You smoke weed? I smoke weed every once in a while, right? On occasion. On occasion, yeah. Do you drink? On occasion. But I'm straight most of the time. What were you like when you were in your youth? This is something I've never really talked to you about. Uh, when it came to drugs, I was a cokehead. I, um, and I was a lot thinner and, uh... When did you, at what age did you start doing drugs? Thirteen. Wow. Definitely. What was the first drug at thirteen that you used? Acid. Uh, LSD. That was the first drug that you used at thirteen? Oh, yeah. At thirteen? In San Francisco. You skipped, uh, you skipped alcohol, you skipped cigarettes, you skipped, uh, marijuana, you just went right to acid. Uh, yeah, it was the first thing I offered to me. Besides pot. First it was pot, then it was acid, then it was, um, then it was reds, you know? So what's it like, thirteen years old, the first time that you tried acid? I mean... Uh, with me, with me... Did you freak out? There were black guys that gave me fake IDs. I could pass for twenty-one years old. Um, I dressed like I was older. Thanks to Frederick's and Hollywood. Were you having sex at that age? Oh, yeah. What age did you lose your virginity? Uh, probably fourteen. Oh, okay. So like the year after you did acid. Yeah, in San Francisco. How many times have you dropped acid in your life? I'd say like about seventeen times, something like that. I had mostly all good trips, including an acid trip with Mr. LSD, Timothy Leary, under the Santa Monica Pier, um, one, uh, fateful early afternoon and, um, the acid he turned me on to, Dr. Timothy Leary, was, um, LSD Pure, and today there's like microdot acid and, um, when I did it, I said, hey, you know what? I'm not getting off. And Timothy Leary said, um, the Who, the rock band The Who, they even did a song about him. I mean, no, not The Who. The Moody Blues even did a song about him, you know. Oh, and The Who mentioned him in a song. I told him, hey, I'm not getting off. He said, come under the pier. And he said, uh, you're going to. So... How old was he and how old were you? Oh, he was at least, oh, no. He was a lot older. Oh, hell no. Um... Were you scared being around with an older weirdo acid guy? Oh, no. Or were you just like, cool, you're with it? Oh, no, I knew, I know Venice Beach and Santa Monica. We went under the pier. I got off then. He was right. I got off. And, um, when I got off, he started coming on to me. Oh, yeah. And I pushed him away and the acid was so strong. My trip was so strong that, um, I looked at him, you know, under the pier and he was just like a prune. I said, get away from me like that. And he got mad at me. And I said, I'm sorry. You know, I'm seeing somebody. I mean, I have a boyfriend and, uh... And I said, can I tell some friends about this stuff? And he got mad at me and I said, hey, the least I could do is take you back to Venice Beach, you know. I'm going back that way, you know. So he walked away mad and I started, you know, I walked him back to Venice Beach. He was quiet, you know. He was disappointed. And I said, you shouldn't be. I mean, um, there's other girls, you know. Yeah. So he, so you almost had to, what if he would have forced himself on you? Has anybody ever tried to do that? Um, I'm tall and I would just push him away, you know. You're pretty tall. You have strength. Yeah, I mean, I pushed him away, you know, and he would want to have sex with a girl that was more willing. One of his wives committed suicide probably because she had acid that wasn't, that was too, too heavy, too heavy duty and acid can burn your brain out, screw you up until you go to a mental institution. Isn't it dangerous for a young woman to be in the drug scene with like a lot of weird characters? Like you were never scared about that? Has anything ever happened? I've been raped. I've been raped before at a party. A guy that's in prison right now. Is he in prison for the rape? No, he's in prison for drugging girls and, um, conning people on his, that he bought a house, you know, up on Benedict Canyon. What did he do to you? Um, I was at a party. He drugged my drink. A couple guys raped me and, um, it's a long story and I don't want to get into it because... That's pretty awful. I know. Did you tell anybody about it? Yeah. And you called the police and they went over there to go get him? Um, I don't want to talk about that right now. That's some hard stuff? Yeah. It's not the, and you're not in the best mood to talk about that, right? Um, yeah, it's not, this is not one of my better, funnier nights. Yeah, I know. So what do you, so what do you think? So is everything, is everything going to get better? I mean, you're in, you seem like in a rut. I hope so. You're in a great mood. I hope so. What would make you feel better right now? Um, resolving, resolving, uh, the ticket, you know, where they want money off me and, um, and, um, extending a chin of, uh, Lacoste, this lady that did a documentary on me. She told me to trust her. She said she'd have that film ready in April. She lied. She ripped me off and I'm mad about it. You know? What film? Documentary on me. The Centerfold? Centerfold, yeah. I thought that was going to come out. Yeah, she lied. She said she'd have it ready in April and, um, she... Well, maybe she didn't. She lied. Maybe it's just... She lied. Maybe she didn't have enough time sometimes. It takes a lot to do movies. You're not thinking straight. It's one of your... That's my favorite. That's one of my favorite cat phrases that you say. You're not thinking straight and you're not going far in life. Really? The way you can make it in life is when somebody that is important tells you to, to acknowledge something. Right. And she said she'd have that documentary ready. Last month, um, in April she lied and she ripped me off and so did that faggot Sean Carnage because he has AIDS. What do you think about that word? That's a really, very offensive word. I'm not saying that I don't say it. The word faggot, I don't care if it's an offensive word because if it wasn't for me sticking up for blacks in San Francisco and Oakland where I'm from, they wouldn't even have jobs today and if it wasn't for me changing a law that said that two faggots, two faggots couldn't kiss in public then gay guys would be going to jail all the time. You know, I stuck up for those people. Do you dislike gay people? No. I'm just using a hard word. That's a harsh word. Because I'm a hard person. I gotta go get a beer. Wait a minute. You know when I use that word, I'm usually using it like in anger and I'm not even referring to their sexuality. It's just like, you know, Well, maybe I'm angry. I gotta go to, I gotta go get a beer. Wait a second. You're gonna get a beer? Alright, you know what? Let's play another couple songs and, uh, where's Nick at? Nick, where you at, man? Is Nick around? Alright, well, shit. I'm just here with myself. Oh, there you are, man. I get scared when I don't see you, man. Nick's trying to fix the computer right now. Alright, man. We're gonna play another couple songs, man. You ready to do that? Okay, we'll be back on the More Music Radio Pod. Fuck it. Let's do it. Yo, motherfucker. You are listening to the More Music Radio Pod. Studio in downtown Los Angeles, California at skinlow.la at skinlow.la guitar solo solo solo solo solo solo solo solo Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We're back on the More Music Radio Pod. Yep. You know, I was just talking to Karen right now, and I'm really upset at Karen because she's in a bad mood and she's fucking taking it out on me, and I fucking don't like it. I'm not taking it out on you, Vince. What's happening is that I just, I'm hoping to God that, you know. I want to have you come and talk in a fucking radio show and you're being so goddamn difficult with every goddamn thing. And I want you to talk, and you don't want to talk. I do, I do. All right. I know you're feeling bad and shit like that, you know, but at the same time, it's just like, fuck. I'm trying to fucking be nice to you. I know, you are. You are nice. Okay, I just, I want you to move up in the world, and the way you can move up in the world eventually, I feel you have moved up in the world, excuse me, is I think that you should have me and a political person from the ACLU or like a, like, a left-wing movement that somebody that wants to reelect Obama, if it makes a difference, come on and talk about how bigotry has been conquered and how we can get financing and how... Why do you think people don't take you seriously? Answer that question. Oh, they do take me seriously. What makes you say that? Recently, I would say like in 2007, I scared everybody to death when I said, we are going to have... I was the first person to say that. I was the first person to say, the first lady to go on TV and say on the CBS news... That we will have a black president. Yes. I know, but you said that already like 20 times on this show. I would say also people take me seriously when I tell them, you know, you've got to clean up. You can't be getting stoned all the time. And I talk to people that are here today, dead tomorrow. And a lot of people listen to me because it's not like I hold liquor better. I know I'm taking a chance by drinking a little, smoking pot a little. They take me... They take me seriously in that respect. They take me seriously. Women take me seriously when I admit to some of them, hey, you know what? I didn't know that guy was your husband and he hired me to pose naked. He made money off the photos and I had him. I made it with him, you know. Women take me seriously in that respect. Men take me sometimes very seriously when they're younger, younger, a lot younger than me and they photograph me naked. I make it with them and they sell. So, softcore porn on me, you know, or lingerie porn or just nude stuff. I want to know like the new stuff that you haven't said on this show 20 times already. I'm upset at Xenia Chin because she hasn't released a documentary on me. We're talking about the Centerfold, Centerfold documentary. Yeah, she said she'd have it ready in April. She called me up about it. She didn't do it. I feel she ripped me off and I'd like to have a copy of it. Technically, it's June now, right? It's June 1st. Yes, it is. It's the first tomorrow. In about 20 or 40 minutes, it's going to be the first and it's not ready. So, what happened? So, what was the problem with it? What needs to get done? What happened was she goes to Santa Monica College and she lives with a guy who is her boyfriend. They're serious. She's in college. She worked hard interviewing me and she wanted... I asked her... I asked her if there's something in this that I want edited out. Are you willing to do that? She said yes. And Sean Carnage who put his... What did you want edited out? I wanted edited out a guy, this guy that said I was stalking Sky Saxon of The Seeds, the lead singer of The Seeds, which I was not. I never stalked him. His ex-fat wife, Sky Saxon's ex-fat wife, Maria, didn't want me coming backstage when I stopped going to Seeds shows because Sky, in the end, he died in 2009. He was burnt out on drugs and he lost his real ability he had when he started out to really sing his rock songs good, you know, and his ballads. And I used to sing with him in shows. And so this guy said that you were stalking him and you got banned. That I was stalking him and I wasn't. And also a guy, in the documentary... Well, everybody knows that's not true. Right? That's right. I wouldn't stalk him. No, his wife was jealous of me because I'm on the album Adrenaline and I'm in a documentary with Sky Saxon called Psychedelic Walk, The Last Acid Trip. And it shows Sky Saxon and me walking down the Santa Monica Pier on acid. Couldn't they use that and then like have a clip of you explaining it? Like kind of rebutting it? No. Maybe that's a good idea. No, it's just a short, like a 20 minute, good film story. And so you're mad at Sean Carney and you even called him the F, the F-bomb for gays. You know, I mean, I call gay guys, you know, gay, funny, fags a little bit sometimes if they're cool with that. If they're not, I don't do that, you know? And Sean had this really great experience. He put me in the movie 40 Bands in 80 Minutes and it's a worldwide film that sells around the world. You know, everybody's seen it. And especially in like the rock scene, it's got, like 40 bands in it, you know? And I'm kind of like the narrator in it. He did good then, but he abused me in this documentary called Centerfold, Centerfold because he put these three segments in it. One that he said, I stalked Sky Saxon, which I didn't do, which was embarrassing as hell. The Sky Saxon, what's the other one? A guy said that I didn't have any business doing things, things in clubs when I put bands on and had them play. And a girl said I punched her. Tookie said I punched her. I didn't punch her. I pushed her. I thought Tookie was your friend. She is. But I pushed her off on the side at the mime club because I was filming Don Bulls and Don does poorly since the germs are not really together anymore. And I was trying to help Don and I had to push her out of the way to film Fancy Space People, a new band he's in that I make appearances in that band as their siren that emcees them and throws glitter and tons of it at the audience. I had to push Tookie out of the way because she was so drunk, she wouldn't listen. She wouldn't move out of the way and a guy had this expensive camera that had to film them. And I had to push her out of the way. I had to push her out of the way because she was so drunk, I got the film. I gave it to a girl at the Wiltern and that's how Fancy Space People got on a bill with Smashing Pumpkins. Okay. All right. So those things were said in that documentary and I told Sean, take it off the internet. Okay. And Sean wouldn't do it for 10 months. Then I said, what can I do to get you to take it off? And he did. And then he said, I don't want anything to do with the documentary anymore. I said, I'm sorry about that. And Xenia called me up, Xenia Chin who produced it, called me up and said she'd have it ready in April. She didn't call me back. So I feel she ripped me off. When was the last time you talked to Sean Carnage? Because he produced the film, right? I saw him a couple weeks ago. He thought he could... Are you guys getting along? We see each other, but we're not doing anything professional anymore because he's upset with me because I told him... You're difficult to work with. I'm not difficult to work with. Vince, he just wouldn't take it off the internet. See how you're doing? I'm not difficult to work with. I'm not difficult to work with. I'm not difficult to work with. He wouldn't take it off the internet. He wouldn't take it off the internet. He wouldn't take that documentary where it says these lies about me off the internet. What would you do if somebody did a documentary on you and lied about you? You wouldn't like it. You'd tell them to take it off the internet. He wouldn't do it. He felt he could abuse me. You thought it was kind of demeaning you or something. Yes. Is that what you're saying? It was very demeaning, but there's footage of me defending Latins in MacArthur Park where I'm calling Chief Bratton a Nazi to his face for shooting up the... the Mexicans in 2007 on May 1st. Isn't there other good stuff in this movie, though? Yeah. Did you see it? Yeah. I saw it where I'm driving about... An hour? 14 minutes. It's a 14-minute film and you're complaining? I thought it was like a full-length film. So if you want to cut out those two things, it's going to be like a five-minute film or something. If I wanted to cut that out, it would be like about 13 minutes. Wow. You know, I think you need like a buffer zone. Like, I think you need a... You need a manager to kind of like knock you into shape. Managers are expensive. Yeah, well, maybe somebody who could make money for him or herself as a manager by getting you bookings or something. I can't afford one. Because people... I guess when they deal directly with you, it's like... It's very hard. And I'm talking from experience. Like, sometimes I'll talk to you on the phone and you'll be like very difficult. And when you hang up the phone, you don't say goodbye, which is insulting. So people will get insulted and I don't think... I don't know if it's that you don't care about it. Do you know, Vince, do you know how many times you've called me while I have a guy in my apartment that's photographing me and he has... In the afternoon? And he has his dick in me? Yes. All right. And you pick up the... Have you picked up the phone when I called? Do you understand... And the dick has been in you? Yes. Do you understand, Vince, that you are the coolest guy, but that you have had pretty much a sort of a conservative upbringing? And that's... That's cool. You don't know anything about me, Karen. I do, too. Have you ever been to a carne asada over at my house? All right. Karen, you know, we got a call. All right. Why don't we get back to this? Caller, you're on the air with Karen Centerfold. Hello? Hi. Hi. What's your name? What's your name? Raji. Hi, Raji. Waters. Hi, Raji. Oh, Raji Waters. Like, are you the guy in Pink Floyd? No, just kidding. No, he's my cousin. Where are you calling from? I'm calling from Las Vegas. Oh, very good. How are things in Vegas? It's hot over here. I'll bet it is. I'll bet it is. So what's going on, dude? I'm all sweaty. Yeah. I bet you are. I bet you are. What do you do in Las Vegas? Are you guys sweaty? Yeah. Well, not because we're doing anything. It's because it's hot in here. Do you like it? No, I don't. What do you do in Las Vegas? I... I... I bowl. You bowl. Yeah. Good for you. You make a living at that? Yeah. What a great interview. Yeah. That's great. Is that all you do? Yeah. Very good. Very good. So, uh, what else is going on with you? I like looking at my hands. Your what? I like looking at my hands. Good for you. What do you do? What do you like to do? I like to do... What? Have you ever seen Karen Sanderfold before? No. Is she pretty? Yeah. Very gorgeous. I like pretty girls. She's also in a real bad mood right now. Why? And we were talking about how she's sometimes a little bit difficult to work with. Why is that? I don't know. What do they say about that, Karen? You've heard that before, though, right, Karen? Yeah. Sometimes. Do you like cats? Say that again? Call her. Do you like cats? Uh, no. I like dogs. That's it? You know, you hate cats? They're a chicken shit animal because they... Why? They won't protect you and they want to act spoiled and... They do protect you in the nighttime from trolls that steal your breath. They're a chicken shit animal. Dogs will protect you. No, cats, they'll protect you from... See, there's this little troll that goes around. He's maybe about three inches tall, runs around, and he's like, he steals children's breath in the nighttime. And the cats will come and they'll fight the little troll. What else can we... I heard about that. Hey, call her. Raji or whatever. What else can we do for you? Yeah. I think Karen wants to get rid of you. Can you sing me a song? You don't have any money. So listen, you lowlife poor boy. Why don't you just get lost? Oh. That's nice. That's a good song, huh, caller? Yeah, I like it. I like... I heard about that. You hear that happen to James Woods' kids once? Yeah. The thing that steals the breath? Oh, yeah, yeah. That's why I tried to quit smoking. James Woods tried to quit smoking, right. Yeah. With that movie Cat's Eye, right? Cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, cool. Thank you for calling the radio show caller. You're in Vegas, but do you want to come upstairs or... No, I can't. I can't because I was listening in Vegas and I couldn't hear anything. And I tried calling in earlier and I couldn't go through it, so I drove home to Vegas. Oh, okay, cool. Well, cool. Well, thanks for calling. You know, I don't know. Is there anything that you want to talk to Karen Sunderbult about real quick before we let you go? Because she says you don't have any money. She sang you a song, said you don't have any money, and then she went... That you're out of here. Okay, Karen. I'm going to be totally honest with you. This is Patrick from the Mormons. No kidding. And what today? What did I say to Vince? I know your voice anywhere. Oh, that's nice. I know yours, too. Where are you at, Patrick? Did you want to come up? Are you staying at the Mormons? Patrick, you're at the Mormons. I went home because I couldn't listen to the show. And I tried calling. Maybe you guys are on break or something. So I was like, eh. I don't want to stand outside in downtown. So I figured I'd call. Okay, it's good to hear from you. Talk to you later. Pray. Say a prayer for me because I'm having all kinds of problems. Did you hear that Karen's having all these kinds of problems? She broke up with her man. No. I didn't get to hear any of it. Well, she broke up with her man. Okay, that's like the biggest thing right now, Karen, right? You're bummed out about that, right? In a bad mood. Are you having the monthly visitor? Are you also on the period? No. Is that a? No, she didn't have that? Thank God. I'm trying to get community service so I don't have to pay a $200 fine. Oh, yeah. She went to court and there was a judge that was being racist. He wasn't being racist. He's just trying to rip everybody off. Mm-hmm. Okay. Who is he trying to rip off? People in court. Everybody? Yeah, I had a jaywalking ticket and I'm trying to resolve it. And the judge was scary. You know, he's trying to soak money out of people, you know. How was he soaking money out of people? I never heard that. He's threatening them, you know. Like he's saying, if you want to do community service, I want to see a credit card. And he's asking people to hold up their bank card to scare them, you know. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'll have to talk to a lawyer about that tomorrow. But I'll resolve it. And then you like have the bailiff pull out like a boudoir of yellow jumpsuits or orange jumpsuits to scare everybody. You're going to wear this shit. You don't pay us to do that. Ha, ha, ha. I mean, that's, I don't know. That'd work for me. Mm. That's basically what it is. You pay money and you can go pick up trash off the freeway, right? You know what? She's pretty bummed out, man. She's like sitting here. She's kind of like, you know, I'm not free. Well, you know she's on the radio, right? I want to be entertained. I want to be entertained. Yeah, I know. She's very sad. She's not even looking at me. We were arguing earlier. I heard like two seconds ago. It's all right. It's okay. People sometimes get this way, you know? She's just dying of dumps. I know. I, you know, I'm depressed pretty often too myself. Oh, you shouldn't be. You shouldn't be. I'll try and call you guys up about a music show. You know, music shows are hard to do, but I'm trying my best to get you one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tell us about it. No, but you'll do great. You've done pretty good in your life, you know? Well, we just played at the Silver Lake Jubilee this weekend, and we did the mobile unit on Saturday, and that was the day before that we were supposed to play, and the security guards got mad. Security guards always get mad when we do the mobile unit, and you know, we are getting some music shows. We played that show. We got a show at the Stardust on June 30th. We probably played about a thousand shows since we've been around. Yeah, that's good. There's nothing to sneeze, huh? Yeah. We have a good body of work behind us. Mm-hmm. That's good. So, I don't know. I like it. My cat has fleas, though. I can't. Man, you know, I really wish that you were here, man. It's just us. The show started out kind of like at first the computer wasn't working, and then we got started, and then it still kind of wasn't working, but the show got started, and then my computer where the songs are playing got all fucked up. And, oh, man. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, man. It's just been one of those nights, man. Yeah. I mean, I was going to come in. I was, like, driving. Like, fuck. I was trying to call in, and I was like, it was just... You should have came in anyway. Forever. Just because you didn't hear it on your phone, maybe it means your phone is on the fritz or something. It ain't working. Yeah, I tried. I tried. I called somebody, and it worked, and I was like, oh, wow. Why didn't you call me? I did. I texted it to you, but I don't know. All right. Well, next time you'll come. You'll come in next week, man. Yeah. I'll be coming earlier when my work stinks is different. All right, man. Well, thanks for calling the More Music Radio Pod, man. I'll talk to you later on. We got some stuff coming up for the Mormons, and I'll try to mention that at the end of the show. All right? Okay. I'm still trying to listen. I'll try it on this fucking thing again. It worked for, like, two seconds. Yes. I mean, it's working, right? Yeah. Nick says that it's working, and you want to say hi to Nick? Okay. Hi, Nick. Where is he? Hello, Nick. Hey. What up? I'm right here, man. If you want, call back and say, oh, it's working now. Yeah. I'll try it again. I've been trying to mute it at home. It worked for, like, five seconds. It was like, ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, doing that for a little bit, and I heard, like, you and Karen arguing for, like, a minute, and it shut off again. Yeah. All right, man. Right on. All right, dude. I'll try it again. I'll call back and tell you it's working. All right. Well, I don't know. This isn't exactly the best show that we've done, you know? It's all right. Yeah. You know, it's all right. And see, I have had... I don't know if they would have been able to hear it. I know. Patrick, listen. I have had a few serious moments with Vince, and what I am really trying to do... You're really pissing me off, man. Because... Wait a minute, Patrick. Because my experience is pretty big for doing professional things, and he doesn't totally understand that, and he is beginning to, okay? And it's not easy. That's good. I mean, right, right. It's not easy. It's not easy. It's not easy. So here's what I want to ask you to do, because you guys are in a really worthwhile band. If you weren't in a worthwhile band, I mean, I wouldn't bother with you. When you did my show, I, you know, I put up... Maybe your band isn't good, though. I put up with a lot. What do you think? What I'm trying to say, Patrick, is try to get Vince to take me seriously when I talk about doing certain things a certain way, like the way I was trying to deliver... I think you should make it 20 and Vince does that. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're interrupting the time. No. I just asked... But when 20 minutes is up, you gotta stop. Patrick, listen. See? Even Patrick can't even talk. Without interrupting me, if you do something like that for 10 minutes, and you get people to really listen to it, and you film it, and it's on the computer as well... People will take Skid Row much more seriously, and they will subscribe to it, and you'll be more important. But you don't even have a computer that works. You don't even listen to Skid Row Studios. No, I don't. I don't, because... So how do you know? Things are going great right now. I've listened to it. It depends on what you consider great being, Vince. I've listened to it before, and I've called in, you know, when I've been out doing things. Mm-hmm. Okay? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. tight. You got up tight. You get up tight all the time lately. I didn't hear the big chunk of the show. She was up tight the whole time. And then she was trying to use she was scapegoating, like using me as a scapegoat. How do you mean scapegoat? And she were getting like mad and just because your boyfriend dumped you. I didn't do that. I'll get over that. What do you mean by scapegoat? scapegoat means that when you're having a bad time scapegoat means that when you're having a bad time then you take it out on somebody else. Oh, I wasn't taking it out on you. What's happening is I called you up when you called me up And you don't say sorry. That sucks. When you called me up and you had me come down here I asked you. I said listen, if I can talk about bigotry which is a very deadly, serious topic and it's really good for the radio and I get it out and I do it without interruption for 10 minutes. It will be a big thing. I just think people will tune out if it's just you constantly talking. I want to talk too. It's my fucking show. I know, but you didn't. I want to talk too. Can I talk too, Nick? Is that cool? Patrick, is it cool if I talk too? You didn't let me do it. Karen has a point. I want to give her like 10 minutes. She wants to have a beginning and end of it. Hey, man, I have good radio, but I want to know. I want to do that. I want to do a 10 minute segment without interruption. You've got to edit yourself, though. I want to do a 10 minute segment without interruption if we get a lot of people here again, which I think Vince will. Okay? I think that is a great idea and intellectually it'll be a good thing. I don't know. I think I need to get more drunker. I think your idea... Is there a way you can interview yourself? I mean, like, you know, ask yourself questions, record it, and answer them? No. See, again, you're acting very unprofessional, Patrick. No, I'm saying it as kind of like a segment. I don't know. I don't want to do it that way. I don't want to do it that way. It's not really done that way to where people... I think it'd be interesting. I don't know. To where people will take it seriously? I don't think so. Why don't you you know, try to take it seriously. Try to do more serious things, Patrick. I'll interview you, but write me the questions I ask you, and I will not stray from them. Yeah, but Karen, you just go on and on and, like, people... You gotta frame what you're talking about, too. Okay. Like, people don't have that frame of reference that you have going on in your head and you'll just, like, go on and on and people are like what the fuck is she talking about? You know? Um, no. I was very serious. When you're on, I was very serious about what I was talking about. I knew what I was saying, and I said some things which are true that I can prove. You want to have a monologue, right? You just want to talk by yourself. No, I want to talk, um, with a good crowd here, and I want to be uninterrupted for ten minutes, okay? So that means a monologue. That's what a monologue is. I want to do a monologue for... A ten-minute monologue. A ten-minute monologue? Yes. What if I go and I record you and you do the ten-minute monologue and we play it? It'll stink. It won't be professional. It's supposed to be live, you know? Live? Yes, live. Howard Stern would do it that way. Yeah, but you don't like Howard Stern. You told me you don't like him, so why even say... No, I don't. He put your people down. He called Selena a whore. No, he didn't. I listened to that show. He didn't call her a whore. He called Selena... He called Selena a dead whore. He didn't like the music. That's what he said. That is not what he said. Well, she was definitely dead, but the whore is debatable, you know? He called her a dead whore. Whore. Okay? But she was dead, you know? He didn't say dead whore. You didn't even listen to the show. He called her... I did, too. It happened in 94. He called her a whore. Did you hear? Yes. Yes. Vince doesn't believe me. Vince has a problem. I heard that episode. Vince has a problem taking me seriously. Yeah, well, hey. Am I the only one? Didn't I tell you guys not to go to Texas and you did it anyway and you got arrested? What do you think of that? Yeah, everybody told us that. No, you told us afterwards. That's after we went to Texas. I told you. Then you said you shouldn't have. No, now you're making shit up. No, I'm not. Yeah, you are, Karen. I have told every band not to go to South by Southwest. You know? You did it anyway. What happened? You got busted. Yeah, that's not a big deal. For what? For driving on the wrong side of the street? For weed. Did they? Did you? Yeah. We got arrested for four hours and they were gonna send us to prison for weed. Well, there you go. Weed is so dangerous. You know? So you want to make sure that you stop the people that are musicians and that have weed and threaten to throw them in jail. It's a racket, but we're dopey not knowing going into that. We talked to people before that already had done it too and had the same thing happen to them. It was like, oh, that wouldn't have happened to us. It was oregano. I mean, for me, it was oregano because I like to I like to have menudo and stuff and I'll bring oregano and they just didn't understand that. I think in Texas they do it a different way. So anyway, man, I don't know. I really wish that you were here, but if not, that's cool. We'll have you next week. But we're gonna move on with the show. We're gonna play some more songs and kind of wrap it up, man. At this point, I think I just want to go home. I'm tired. I'm getting negative energy and I'm just like, man, I'm bummed out, man. Look, try your best. I guess you just, you know, let's do it. Don't say anything. Don't say anything for the last, like, just my idea. Just dead air for five minutes and just, like, bow your heads and strike me without talking. The whole point, though, man, is, like, not to have dead air and not to have, like, just, like, rambling, you know. That's what I've learned when I listen to radio shows is, like, I'm not the best, you know. I'm not the best at all, like, by far. Like, I'm just a beginner. But, like, rambling. Vince is a pro. It's just that he needs launching, you know? And the way... This is just something that's never, I don't think it's ever been done on radio as far as I know. Well, you know, it can be done, you know? If Jeremy wants to really launch the show and he gets, um, what? Well, you know, we did have that five minutes of dead air earlier at the beginning of the show, so we already had that. I don't think people were going crazy over that. I don't think people go crazy over dead air because it's... Because it's, like, a visual thing. I don't want to have dead air. Yeah, I know, but I'm saying, I'll do it, too. I'll stay on the line. No, it's all right. Well, we still have to... It is the end of the show, man. I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut you off, but we're going to have to play a couple songs. We're running out of time. Thank you very much. Let's play a couple songs and come right back. Yeah, we'll be back, man. I'll call you in a little while, man. All right, then. We'll be right back on the More Music Radio Pod. All right, exciting. All right. The More Music Radio Pod. Hot Skate Road Drop. You'll hear it. The More Music Radio Pod. Hot Skate Road Drop. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. You'll hear it. we'll try giving him a call is that it ringing right now Nick oh oh okay he took his cell phone off the hook Jeremy took his cell phone off the hook I think so I don't think you can take your cell phone off the hook can you doesn't it just go to voicemail here get rid of that get rid of that thing give him another try man maybe that was just a misdial or something okay yeah we're gonna try to get Jeremy on the phone and I mean I wanted to talk to him because he said he was gonna leave tomorrow I kind of thought he was gonna be here we were gonna celebrate it was gonna be like a happy night but it just turned out the opposite he's not here and it's not a happy night it's not an unhappy night it's just it's just I was bummed out okay and I didn't you know what to let you know what a professional I am I didn't care that I was bummed out I showed up anyway you know mm-hmm yeah and I do appreciate that Karen I know because you were kind of sitting on the fence you're like oh I really don't feel good I kind of don't want to go but I was like shit what am I gonna do just sit there by myself and I do appreciate that you're here you did the right thing I don't appreciate being talked down to how did I talk down to you hold on I wasn't talking down to you I'm too tired to read the transcripts I'm not a court reporter you know I know but how did I talk to you that you felt I was talking down I'd probably be making some money if I was a court reporter tell me how you're you felt I was talking down to you well you say that you got you're not doing it professional enough and stuff and my point is what I'm saying is Skid Row needs what's the countdown at I think we're gonna have to start playing the role oh fuck alright well cool I just said Vince look I just am saying that Skid Row needs heavier topics and a lengthier time for certain celebrities to talk about something heavy so that we can cram publicity down people's minds and make them want to subscribe to it you know and listen in that's what I'm saying yeah well there's the end of the show song let's get the countdown man I didn't start the song this has been a fucked up night I hate tonight oh it has not it has not I showed up you know what it's been so fucked up we had some jokes I'm leaving in four minutes and 51 seconds we had some fun we had some jokes I mean I'm bummed out still but I you know I mean we laughed a little there you go you're laughing right now you know and and I'm dealing with life and it's hard for me and you know in a way I'm glad I showed up everything's alright hey so what happened to Jeremy man is this he disconnected his phone now or what I know every kid every time I call they just as if the phone was off the hooker he just maybe I have no idea how were you how were you communicating and when all this all the problems were happening I'm gonna have to do this shit now text messaging man text message calling me on my phone because I had to fix the computer in the control room and get the screen to work again yeah he said you just all the internet stuff wasn't working but it is now I was able to work through it with him on the phone so I got all that cool as to why couldn't get him on the phone that's weird because like that means that when you get that busy signal like that for cell phones that usually like when you call and someone's not available that'll go to like the voicemail or something yeah that's like a weird like old-fashioned off-the-hook signal I know what I mean yeah remember with the telephones when they're with the curly cords and stuff whatever just you would leave it off the hook you didn't if you didn't want people to call you you would just leave it off the hook and then you get that home I'm on a bender yeah so but anyway Jeremy is actually I think he's in San Francisco right now and he's making his way over to New York City is gonna start skid row studios New York but yeah about that Karen yeah happening maybe he can maybe he can fly us up there round trip or something that's what I'm saying you know I wouldn't mind going to New York and maybe doing a strip show in Times Square you know why I'm there you know you'll show your tits and uh yeah and maybe going on some other David Letterman or something like that you know right um yeah like Greg Gomberg's trying to get me on David Letterman talk about the seeds movie I'm in with Sky Saxon you know oh okay well I was really hoping to uh see the Karen centerfold documentary I don't know if you ever will we have to get Xenia 10 to give me the um a copy of it isn't like Sean Carnage in charge of it or something no he he quit doing it because I forced him to take it off the internet because I I didn't want to put him off with his abuse he loves you though he was telling me when he was on the more music radio positive he did it he did he said that in order to insult me in the documentary and I couldn't take it I told him to take it off the internet you know I told him if you want to insult somebody insult somebody else and I can get a copy of it I think from Xenia chin unless she's ripped me off for it I don't know she said she'd have it ready in April she didn't do it you're very upset about it I want to see that I'm very upset about it email her and tell her I want I want you guys to come to a compromise like why don't you just give them half like okay the world was to end tomorrow and there were only two cell phones and the president were to call Xenia chin she would not pick up her phone really that's right why don't you try like calling from a different number she won't answer it do you know where she lives yes I don't want to go up there you know maybe we should go there we're going to go to a place where we can have a conversation with her if you want to talk to her go to Santa Monica College that's where she's at you know she got takes something some class there well shit are you doing anything we got one minute left in the show anything going on with Karen centerfold you got any shows going on what's good what's up yeah I'm gonna be at the mime club I'm presenting vulture the hiccups a band I'm in but called the hiccups I'm the lead singer what date is that on June 23rd this month Saturday night yeah at the mime club and I were invited I want everybody to check out the Mormons on Saturday June 30th at the Stardust we're playing with panic movement we're playing with a couple other bands really good bands I just don't have it in front of me right now but I do know that we'll be at the Stardust on Saturday June 30th it's gonna be a lot of fun well million kids and then there's another band we check it out over at facebook.com slash the Mormons and we will be back in the next week we'll be back in the next week we'll be back in the next week we'll be back next week we'll be back in the next week we'll be back in the next week we'll check us out there and we'll have all our information there and shit but um I don't know we did our best with tonight's show I mean it could have been worse I want to thank Karen centerfold for coming down tonight I really appreciate you good to take you next week on the more music radio pod good night everybody