Sage Stallone tribute and Hollywood stories

His TV reception. I'm trying to do some sort of like Ozzy Osbourne scream. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the call sheet. This is Keith Coogan. We're coming to you live from downtown Los Angeles. This tale's of the bone machine and truly, truly, it's starting to look more and more like a big bone grinder out there. Last week I was being funny and I said, yeah, we'll do the celebrity death of the week. And shit, we've got another one. Oh, yeah. Welcome to the show tonight, people. I'm stunned. I'm pissed. I'm pissed. I'm also very sad. Saddened. We've had two huge losses. Quiet. Silence the music. Must cut now. We've had a couple of deaths this week. And I was joking. I was like, oh, we'll do the celebrity death of the week. And, you know, because it seemed like there had been a bit. Well, real sad news to report. I'm sure. You've heard in the news last day or two. Sage Stallone. Sylvester Stallone's son. Who co-starred in Rocky V with his pops. He's a director, writer, filmmaker. And he has passed. Very, very sad. And, you know, I can't. My total condolences go out to his family and his mom and dad. And that's. He's 36, I think. 36 years old. Too young once again. I, you know, I really don't know what to say. I mean, there's reports on the story that he was. Herman like and it spent the last days. Am I bringing everybody down? Is this. I always start the show with like, hey. It happened. Nobody died. It's something to talk about. Well. It's celebrity news. It's. I feel really bad for Sylvester Stallone. And. It's like Schwarzenegger. He's. Like, oh, you've got an illegitimate child, you know, and I didn't. I couldn't really feel bad. The press was all over Arnie. What? Housekeep. What? Oh, OK, let's get a picture. She's, you know, got to be this like hot housekeeper. What? Arnie. Arnie. Really? Come on. That is. Yeah. There's no denying that that's his son. He's got. He's like, hey, hi. I am the Adam kid. I mean, what do you think? Look just like him. And, you know, Sage Stallone. And, uh, uh, two. I guess that's why he played his son in that Rocky movie. Yeah. Sorry not to be a smart ass, but, uh. And then he didn't do. Was it the Rocky Balboa? He was like, I'm not going to play his son. Or there was another one afterwards where he didn't and somebody else played him. And then, uh, there was. There's so many Rocky movies. The good ones. One, two, three. If you like kind of camp. Four, if you like it, uh, you know, quick. Uh. And very propagandist. And, uh, very cut and dry. Four is, I think four is one of my favorites, actually. But he wouldn't get there if he didn't build on, you know, one through, uh, three. Rocky five, I didn't care for. And paid money to see it in the movie theater. Aw. But still admired, uh, Sebastian Stallone for continuing to make movies. And, you know, the whole, like, he gets in shape and works out. And that's another thing I don't have the discipline to do. Um. But, uh. So his kid, uh, oftentimes. The progeny, the offspring. Uh. Of, uh, people in Hollywood. It's around. They're like, hey, I got these connections. And they do it. They're in the business, too. So, you know, I can't say that, uh. Oh, they don't know, by the way, with, uh, Sage Stallone. They don't know if it was, uh. Uh. Accidental or a suicide. Uh. Through reports of, uh. Uh. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. Drawers. and also that the room was quite a wreck and that he'd been living in filthy conditions like soda cans and beer cans and cigarette butts and food and stuff and it just smelled in there apart from, well, the reason it might smell in there. It was a hotel room, right? Yeah, because I think they said the maid or something knew not to knock or enter or even, you know, don't even fucking think about it. Huh, yeah. I didn't know it. For some reason, I thought it was a roommate thingy or whatever, so I didn't know where he was. Hey, Keith, why don't you... I'm sorry, I was distracted by Octomom and her stripper pics. I don't know, TMZ. I love TMZ. If you noticed, people, basically the show is me regurgitating the shit I see on TMZ and Mickey Fink's deadline and Drudge Report. It's what I read, man. No. No. Don't read the Huffington Post. I'm sorry. Every once in a while, I'll be compelled and I'll go check, but I don't read the Huffington Post. But I try to, you know, spread it around. Drudge Report, not that I'm like a righty or, you know, don't support, you know, Bill Clinton. That's everybody that got on the radar when Matt Drudge said, hey, Bill Clinton had this little intern. Yeah, yeah. Monica Lewinsky. What's she up to now? Is she like making verses or she's got a book? I don't know. Is there something? Monica, what are you up to? Yeah. So here's more of the story. He, okay, so he's found. He'd been living in Howard Hughes-like seclusion. People hadn't seen him. He'd spent the last month or whatever, you know, in his room. And that actually they hadn't, it was several days before they'd found his body. It wasn't just, you know, oh, he died. They found him the next morning. It was like three, four days. Oh, that's a bummer. Three or four days. And that's because, you know, they, he told them, you know, don't fucking come, don't knock, don't whatever. I don't know. You know, that's so sad. And I don't know. There's many reasons it could have nothing to do with. You know, it's usually just a family nugget in there to take a good spin off for, you know, there's something growing up or some circumstance that leads to addiction or abuse or anything like that. Ooh. Oh, we're being. It's a nice breeze in here. We've got some nice, nice air conditioning coming on. Actually, that's rather nice. We've had such a fucking heat wave here in L.A. Oh, it's been ridiculous. It was so hot. So sticky. Am I whining now? Am I sounding like a little minch? It was so hot. It was so sticky. We had humidity. It was like 98% humidity. And you just, your clothes stuck to yourself. And then the, it rained one afternoon. She got so fricking wet in the evening. Yeah. And then the air, it turned into huge drops of rain and then evaporated by the time it hit the sidewalk because it was so damn hot. But it's cooled down a little bit. And how's that air conditioning working? Oh, it's awesome, isn't it? It's okay. I don't think it bothers our listeners. Back to Sage. So they, yeah, law enforcement said that the room was disgusting. And Sage's mother had called the housekeeper and after being on the phone, she said, you know, I'm not sure if it's a good thing. I'm able to reach him. And they checked in on him and discovered the body. They say that it looked like an accidental death. So there you go. And that's probably, you know, I think most people that do like consciously or commit suicide, there's some sort of a call or a note or something. They reach out. So, you know, unless it was like an accidental kind of a suicide, you think so this was just, you know, whatever reasons we don't know if there's under underlying health reasons. Like for instance, when Corey, he was in the hospital, he was in the hospital for a long time. He was in the hospital for a long time. He was in the hospital for a long time. He was in the hospital for a long time. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. And he passed. 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And he passed. there the pills are the most uh destructive and uh insinuating and uh uh lethal uh that's they really do they they killed heath ledger and uh they uh and even opiates in general they are basically most of the pills that uh they got this is dr coogan uh with the medical hour uh a lot of the painkillers are opiates and they're basically heroin or they're synthetic heroin uh and they act the same way they have the same addiction or even worse uh they don't leave the system within 24 hours like uh heroin might um they're in the synthetic ones are uh you know they wind around your spinal column they fuck with you and it takes as long to repair for whatever damage or pain you have as it does to uh repair from the damage that the pills do to your body your liver um so it just not you know and pain management could be uh you know a nice walk or swimming or something there could be something deeper in your life other than it's like it's like oh it's just oh this tight back this old injury I had and well what else is going on oh I'm not sleeping oh really uh yeah I just I don't have time to eat right and I know well that could be a lot to do with how you're feeling and so uh my my I guess my advice for anyone and because I kind of you uh as an actor you you aren't necessarily able to live and be a cop or be a junkie or you know be a jet fighter space cowboy so you pretend and you have to go off of what um is in your life you have to go off of maybe experiences you've had like no I've never been a jet pilot but rode my bike really fast down this hill once and it was you know okay so I got that and I'll times that by like 10 or 100 or whatever but you have a basis something and understanding and it could be some sometimes even just research be like, I have no, I don't know what it's like to be, you know, a whore in San Francisco in turn of the century before the earthquake. I don't know. So you got to look it up. Yeah. What's up with the cannery row? You know, I don't know. So you, you have very, very little go on. You can kind of extrapolate from there. And I would say that, you know, there's two kinds of pain. There's physical pain, there's emotional pain, and you can, you can cover up with pills very, very effectively, very easily. But that's, I would say to anyone who's going through that or going through pain or struggling with addiction, once again, Dr. Coogan, and this is not, I think, harmless advice and don't hold me to it. And if there's some sort of legal way for me to get out of, you know, the sort of repercussions or responsibility for what I'm going to say is reach out, talk to whoever, or the family or, you know, talk to whoever it is. That's the like underlying issue. Because I think that when you lose someone like this, and it's, you know, the sadness of it, it's like, that they're thinking of some family members too, I've lost and some others I'd like to not lose. Dude, the Coogans are messed up, man. I can't even get into that. And I don't know if the, my listening audience is, you know, really interested in that. I don't know if they're interested in that. I don't know if they're interested in the family dynamic of like a multi-generational actor family. But my mom had a saying, you know, the skeletons leap out of our closet. It's, oh, it's bereft with alcoholism and sexual abuse and assault and tragic deaths and other, from lingering to sudden. It's almost like the Addams Family. And we, and perhaps because of my grandfather's work on the Addams Family as Uncle Fester, we took that attitude. That's cool. I didn't know that. Sure. So we're like, oh, you know, gloomy swamp. We're like, yeah, that's right. I don't understand why everybody doesn't like the gloomy swamp. And we laugh at whatever the situation would be. We'd laugh at, you know, the strifes or the funny, the funniness. You know, even losing my, when we did lose my grandfather, I was like 14 years old. So I got to really watch the adults go off the rails and everything, the power of the family and everything kind of switched over to my mom. Everything was on her shoulders and she lost her mind. And it's just, you know, pressure, pressure. And my grandfather had been the, you know, basic rock head of the family. It's as if he said, this is how something would go. We try to tend to kind of, you know, make that happen. I can't believe even, and there are times where my mom and my grandfather did not. And so I am my grandfather's, my mother's is Jackie Coogan's daughter. And then I was born. So I didn't get that name at birth, but that's the relationship through is my mom's father was Jackie. And so there are times where maybe her and he didn't get along, like when she got pregnant and ran away from home and got married at 15. You know, little times like that. Yeah. And after that, you know, I love my mom and I love what she went through to, to raise me. So every family has their own dynamics. I can't imagine what, you know, Sylvester Stallone and like we didn't, our family didn't have money. The point of my grandfather's story was he lost his money when he was, before he was 18, he'd lost whatever he'd made. And so we never had, you know, palatial Beverly Hills homes and oh, look at this view. Yeah. Just modest places in Malibu. No big deal. Um, it was, uh, oh, the people we had to kill to do that. Um, so I can, I can only imagine what it was like. Uh, but I, I also have to freely admit I worked for, uh, Sage Stallone. You worked for him? Yes. In a very odd, uh, strange way. Uh, he directed short film and, uh, at the time, uh, I had done and helped my wife who's an art director as free labor. She's like, what are you, you're not working this week, uh, on anything. Uh, you could come on over to the set and you're going to be the set dresser for nothing. I'm like, yes, honey. So around that time, uh, this job came in through our, um, uh, production, uh, designer. Uh, he goes, Hey, uh, uh, we're striking a set to this hospital set. I was like deep out in the middle of the city. I was in the valley and it's the short, it's a Sage, Sage Stallone short. Sorry. My wife, she calls him stage for whatever reason she heard it wrong or whatever. And like, you know, movie stage, stage Stallone. So I called him stage occasionally. I know. I miss him. Sorry, Sage. Uh, and, um, it was this horrible, like nightmare sequence at the hospital that they were shooting. That was a glory. So he's a little twist, a little mind in there. Sage, a little buck. Uh, go watch, uh, uh, stage Stallone shorts or whatever. If he's got stuff online, you've got to, got to look it up. He's got a interesting, I don't know what, you know, he went through or I don't know if there's any sort of biography of his story. So he tries to tell that his art, well, his art was messy. So our production diners, it goes, uh, Hey, we've got to, you know, here's, you know, the pay for, it should probably be like four hours of work. Like, yeah. And part of art department and set dressing and all that other stuff is you do, um, three jobs. You build or prepare the set before and like pre do the set, you run it while it's filming. So you're moving walls or doing painting where you're like fixing stuff as it's going along for the crew and the cameras are going and keeping continuity for props and all that stuff going. And then there's post after they wrap something, they've got to strike it. So you got to tear the shit down or take it back or return it with a receipt to circuit city. If you're a low budget filmmaker and you really need like equipment, like monitors or anything, like that circuit city used to have a no questions asked 30 days return with receipt. That's smart. You get everything you need, like furniture and you get like, you know, office stuff and you get all this stuff and you shoot your movie and then you go back and you, you, while you're shooting, you're like, dude, no, no, no. That's what, that's what we got to return that. So don't fuck with it. You use it up and then you go back to it. It wasn't. Yeah. We tried to get the cable to where anyway, we got to return it here. They're like, all right, great. Here's a, here's your money back. Maybe if they caught on, people were doing it not only for film, but they were doing it for Superbowls and stuff. They get big screen TVs and stuff. So, um, so strike is part of it. And it's like, oh, tear this shit down. You know, that's fun. You usually have a few beers and it's like no one else is around. There's no film crew around. Art department is working on a movie before, uh, and after. And it's also one of the only unions where you can also be non-union and union on the same movie. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. So if you're like sets, building sets and doing run very, uh, tough, fucking job. I know, I know why they couldn't find anybody to do with that cheap, which was free, honey, I'll get you back for that. Um, and, uh, so we, we go, all right, what's the, he goes, let's just clean up this room from the, you know, they shot that day and clean it up and, and go return everything. And some of this was like weird medical equipment. Uh, it was really expensive. And they're like, you know, we've got to make sure you have this piece and this piece and this catalog it. And we're like, you know, no problem. Fine. We'll go. We we've done this a million for, we're doing it for like two, three sets a day. You're like, just, it's, moving. That's all it is, is like, you know, and you can go to help your friend move and they're like, I'll give you some beer and some pizza. Just help me move, dude. Yeah. You're like, fine. You're a friend. I'll go fucking help you move. I'll take this and oh, stairs. Great. Oh, really? Oh, that's too white. We've got to go out the window. Oh, fuck. Shooting a movie is doing that all day, 12 hours a day for three months. It's, it's ridiculous. It's cool, but you got more, you got 50, you got a hundred people trying to move this shit around. Anyway, we were modest, like three, people trying to build all these sets and move them in and they're like, sure, we'll do this job. We'll go out to the hospital and, um, we go, we're going to go survey the room to see what cleanup he goes. Yeah. They did some gore stuff. So I imagine there's going to be a little blood or whatever. He's like, oh, they have plastic tarps up. So it's cool. You just like collect everything and it was like, all right, fine. We'll go in this abandoned hospital, deep in, uh, uh, the Valley and, uh, like deep Valley West, like, wait, not even, I don't even think you call it the Valley anyway. So we're there and it's been closed up. So it's kind of scary and there's nobody around. And we have like, there's a back door that was just open or it was, it was very spooky. So we go in there and the film crew had just been there the day before or whatever. So there's like garbage here and there. So we're picking that up too. And we're getting closer to where the set is. And we can kind of, we're like, oh, we can already see like plastic on the door and like bits of blood on the side of the door. So turn the corner and look inside. The room it's everywhere. It's every it's in the lighting. It's above it. Think chunks of like meat and chick. They had like chicken livers and stuff. They were doing a scene where they were like cutting into a guy's chest and they had a fake upper body and lower and, you know, or fake lower body and chest and the real upper body. And like all this stuff was supposed to be torn out and flying around. Everything was on. Everything was above, like on the tops of stuff. The blood had gone up and like arced. We must have gallons of it. We're like four hours. This is bullshit. So we're like, well, we don't have any cleaning supplies for this. This is ridiculous. And so we do. We're like, all right, we're going to go make a run to Rite Aid or whatever, you know, like Savon or Rite Aid at the time. So we go there and we're like, all right, we need a bucket. We need a mop. We need bleach. We need, you know, this floor is clean, this cleaner. We need, you know, gloves. We'll get latex gloves. We're like, all right, great. We have blood on us. Fake blood from when we were crawling around just checking out the set to see what the hell we had to do. Oh, yeah. So we're standing in line at Rite Aid with blood on us with a bucket and gloves and bleach and a mop. Nobody batted an eyelid. And we bought the stuff and we went back to this room and Sage, you sick fuck. We spent hours cleaning this place out when we were like, we just give up on the blood. We're like, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're going to go back into the study room. When we go back out to the rest of the hospital and look for plastic cups or cigarette butts or whatever the crew might have left around. Oh, here's some tape on the floor. Let's, let's just take our time and peel this off for a minute. Back into the room. I mean, it did took at least five, six hours. And, you know, finally cleaning that up, cleaning up the equipment, getting it all back into the truck. Um, and just exhausted and covered in even more blood and then drive it. We actually abandoned the truck. He goes, just park it outside because it was so late. And we knew that we weren't going to be able to get out. So we went back out. We to make it to the prop house. He sent us out there. It was already late afternoon when he sent us out there. It was midnight and we're in a parking lot in like Silver Lake where this PM Entertainment place, they had done all these awful B-movie, karate movies, action movie things. He's like, just drop it off in their parking lot. Lock up, lock the keys in it and just like, you know, and walk away filled with everything in it. So we did just that. I felt like I was in Reservoir Dogs. I felt like I was in some movie and we're still covered in this blood and it was like, you have to wash it out of your hair and anyway, that's my story. That's all I got. Wow. Yeah. That's our fun times with Sage. God. I wonder what the name of that was. Let me tilt it up. IMDB. Film nerds. If you, have the IMDB app on your iPhone and you're a film nerd, call in 800-893-9562. Is that the fucking number? 893-9562. Yeah. 1-800-893-9562 to discuss this or Goru movies or working for Sage Stallone. Sage Stallone. Says actor Rocky. They've already got his date of death on, on IMDB. So Sage Stallone, he's got a very sexy picture. Oh, sexy heavy man on IMDB. He's friends with director John Gulliger and cast John's father, Clue Gulliger in his short Vic. I, okay. I found another connection. I did series with Clue Gulliger and his son was like, cast him where I'm seeing a movie at New Beverly and Clue's there trying to remember who I was. But he's like, I love that. He always remembers we worked together. We never, he always remembers which show. So he brings his son up who's not nine anymore, but is an adult feature film director. And he goes, you gotta put Keith in the movie. I promise next time you put Keith in the movie. I love it. Thank you, Clue. So Vic, was it Vic? I wonder if it was Vic. Okay. Actor, oh, Rocky V was his first movie. Evil Inside Me. Daylight. He was in Daylight. I was debating that with a friend. Reflections of Evil. Manson, Family. He did some dark shit. And good old Vic. Yeah, no, I don't think. Oh, is that it? There might even be a picture of the bloody room. Oh, no, that's not it. what was the short? Trying to find it. Oh, I know. Gotta look under director because that's his actor. Director. Ooh, it's not on here. It is unlisted on IMDB. Unless it was Vic and they're just fucking with me. Could have been. Yeah, maybe it was Vic. Well, Stage Stallone. Ooh, it's a nice looking picture too. Ooh, look at all the actors in it. I'm just, ooh, John Lazar was in it. Wow. Wow. Sorry, John Lazar from Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. Ooh, good, good, deep. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, um, character actors. See these, I'm barely, uh, uh, know some of these people and references and I'm 42. So I don't expect, uh, everybody or my audience to, but, but look into it. Um, the, uh, Beyond the Valley of the Dolls is not really legally connected to Valley of the Dolls. It's a total freakout movie. Um, you gotta go see it. All right. So, uh, this is short attention span theater with Keith Coogan. Uh, the reason I call the show, the tales of the bone machine is because of things like this. Um, no, I can't directly attribute it to, um, the entertainment industry. I can't directly attribute it to anything with his father who happens to be an actor, writer, director, producer, Oscar winner. Um, and has some money, uh, money can cause problems. I was reading the other day that to the reason that, uh, rich kids, uh, or, uh, the progeny of rich parents, uh, the, one of the reasons there's such shit, um, is because they, I'm sure there's some kids of rich people that are nice. Haven't met him myself. Uh, is that, uh, they, uh, aren't heard. No. Uh, can I have that? Oh, there's two of them. Oh, I can, a bigger one. Oh, I can, a smaller one. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. But I did live in a fantasy world for many years, living on sets and living, you know, and working, play acting, pretending like you're with all these people you've seen on TV. And it's weird to be a part of it. I don't know how many other actors are also fanboys or how many other people understand how special it is when they're doing it because I had a fucking kick as a kid. But so it is, you know, the real world versus the movie world is a big, big difference. Even to work crew on a movie is nothing like the real world. Is there work involved? Oh, fuck yeah. Do you have to spend quite a bit of time preparing? And, you know, can you go out and party all the time? Fuck no. You got to learn 10 pages of dialogue a night after you've worked all day. You're doing six days a week, by the way. You have to... You know, look good. You have to stay in shape. You can't have bags under your eyes or bloodshot eyes. You can't, you know, put on 10 pounds during the shoot. And it's easy. Oh, donuts and breakfast and oh, what? Egg bacon, egg ham and cheese. Yeah. Oh, can you like put butter all over the bread too? And fry it. And you have to because you're burning 3,900 calories a day. You know, oh, you know the scene where he, you know, runs with the gun up the hill and the beach and in the sand. It's fucking hard to run in sand. Watch anything. Even live. Light action in a movie, on a TV show. So hard to pull off and the bumps and the bruises and the cuts and I'm sore and I can't. And half the time the costumes don't fit. Shoes are too tight. They're too big. Am I making myself clear? Oh, listen to this. This acting kid. This punk. Oh, acting's hard. I feel really sorry for him. Oh, it is. Sometimes it can be. And to be a crew member is really, really hard. You're going past the... You're going past the theater and putting huge lights up and standing under these hot lights in the sun all fucking day. While this actor punk is eating donuts and can't remember his lines. So be prepared, people. That, you know, making a movie is very insular. It's very you. All of a sudden you are working with these people and they're your family for this time. Every waking moment you're all working on something together. So it's hard. Hard, hard work. And they used to have a thing called wrap beer. On the location shooting maybe away from the studio. And hard, long day. And at the end of the day, hey, producer came over, brought us a couple coolers of beer. What? Cool. That's awesome. And say, hey, where are they? They're up on the grip truck. Okay. And boom, grab a beer. Hang around. And they're still wrapping up and putting equipment in the truck and, you know, trading cables and like closing up stuff and locking up. And, uh... Just having a beer. They stopped this because insurance and completion bond and insurance injury lawyers. Like if somebody gets into an accident on the way home and this was on the app thing. So they just don't, don't do it anymore. Kind of sad too. Um, I had a friend who had explained to me what movie immunity is. And, uh, movie immunity is you're working on a movie and, uh, you get caught in real life. And you're like, oh, I'm not doing this. I'm just doing something fucking absurd. Like drinking a beer in a car at four o'clock in the morning. So no, no, no, it's okay, officer. I'm working on the movie. Now this works to varying degrees. If it's in Los Angeles, you go, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. We were shooting up at like Agua Dulce and we had, you know, this totally apologize. I'm just a few minutes away. You know, thanks for looking out. Okay. We'll just be safe. Keep it under 70 and have a good night. It works. Wow. And, uh, cause a lot of the cops want to be, you know, in the middle of the night. And, uh, you know, you're like, oh, I'm not doing this. I'm just a few minutes away. And we had, you know, this totally apologize. I'm just a few minutes away. You know, thanks for looking out. Okay. We'll just be safe. Keep it under 70 and have a good night. It works. Wow. And, uh, cause a lot of the cops want to be when they retire and they want to be on movies as the security with their motorcycle and their outfits. And whenever they're shooting movies and you see them on the streets, uh, out on location, uh, in the city, they're, they'll have a couple of cops and they'll sometimes be holding up traffic or, you know, kind of generally hanging around. Number one, it presents, prevents thievery of running up and stealing all this equipment. Um, sometimes they all got to run away from the truck and it's open and movie immunity. We on a movie, you don't remember the real world's out there. You, you, you like, who are these people walking up? There are people in the world and they, well, they just grabbed something and took off with it. So they have these cops there and they help it with everything. Sometimes you need them mandatory in LA to get the permit to shoot. They're like, oh, oh, you want to film? Look the film permit for a location. They're like, totally. It's $200. Like really? They're like, how, how many days do you need it for? Like all the whole week, although we'll pro Rachel was do $500 for the whole week. Really? Yeah. You're covered. Okay. You have to have a million dollars of insurance. Just a million dollars that only costs like 500 bucks, but you have to have a million dollars worth of insurance, a bond or whatever. And you have to, uh, uh, have a fire permit. A fire permit. That's going to cost you. And you have to have, you have to hire, uh, two officers. What? Yeah. You have to do. And here's what you pay them and blah, blah, blah. And then you pay them their pension or whatever. They're usually retired though. So you, um, there's a, there's a racket. It's totally some little, you know, area and it's a student film and they're like film permits, you know, 20 bucks, whatever. But yeah, you gotta go get a film permit. I don't think that's much of that going around these days. Um, so. Um, it's too expensive, too crazy for like real movies to be shooting here. I don't see them. I don't see as much film production, uh, running around the streets. And um, they fucking scared him away. And uh, Schwarzenegger didn't help him with, uh, uh, you know, uh, tax, um, incentives for shooting in Los Angeles or California. He should have just said, you stay in California, you keep production here in California, in California, California. I can't even do him in California. And if you keep production here, I'll give you 10% off. And you're taxes, you spend $30 million on the movie. That's $3 million you get off on your taxes. That's a pretty good deal. Bruce is like, I now it's only cost me 27 million to make this movie. So he didn't do that. So our film ran up to Canada who says, we'll give you 20%. Fuck it. Um, oh, hire our guys though. You can't take crew from like here. You have to like hire local and all this other stuff, but they're cheaper. They're like, you, you'll work for like 70 cents a month. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. tougher than you think. Even the cushy jobs, even hair and makeup. They're sitting there so funny hair and makeup where usually like they've done their hair and makeup. Hair has got this big hair and makeup's got pretty professional looking but light and somehow they're not sweating in the middle of the desert. But you know, they have to run up to the actor every five minutes with powder and everything and make, because the sweat is ridiculous and they're under lights. So that's not fun and they're on the set and you know, the director will be like, fix the hair. Those flyaways or the director of photography is like, I'm seeing. It feels like backlight. Director of photography are always like German or something. It feels like backlight I am seeing. Oh, maybe Viennese. That's it. Director of photography is always Viennese. I'm seeing the hair. I can see the sunlight through the hair. If you could just take a little and wet that. The hairdresser's like all over the place. Oh, got it. He's like still trying to explain it because the light is good. We got it, Vilmaus. It's good. Every job on a movie set is really, really rough. If you'd like audience, I'll go over every position on a movie, but not tonight. Oh, I do. Script supervisor is rough too. Supposed to sit there and make sure everything's been said. Everything's been shot. If all these angles they plan, they have to make sure that they've covered them. And you got the line wrong. Some directors are like, I don't care. All right, I'll stop telling you when they got the line wrong. They're done. They're like, never said the part about the thieves coming with the thing. Well, you fucking told me not to tell them if the line was wrong. It's continuity is important. They have to know every prop, every piece of board. The tie was off to the left a little bit. The hair was over the ear. Ridiculous shit like that. Oh, they picked up the glass. They took a sip between this line and this line. 120 page script, three months of shooting and they got, they got this huge book. It's ridiculous. Every single job on a set is tough. Except sound. Three girls came out to Hollywood. Redhead. Brunette. Brunette. And the blonde. They're like, yeah, we're going to be in Hollywood. It's going to be great. Like, well, what are we going to do? Well, I heard the fast way in Hollywood is to have sex with somebody that's like in the business. Really? Oh, okay. Wait, wait, who are you going to have sex with? Brunette says, I want to have sex with the director because he's kind of powerful on the set and I have sex with him and he's going to put me, you know, cast me on the parts. Oh, cool. How about us? You, Brittany. The redhead is like, well, I'm going to have sex with the producer because he's the one that hires the director and he can just hire me and like put me in the movie. Oh, okay. That's cool. And what about you? They say to the other girl, she says, I'm going to have sex with the sound guy. What? Yeah, because every time I want to set, I hear them say, fuck sound. Everybody hates them. They're like, they got the shot and oh, an airplane flies somewhere over California, hundreds of miles away and he's like, sorry, we got to go. Sorry, we got to go. We got to cut. The actor is crying and they're like, bad for sound. Go back and redo it. I've noticed they don't give a fuck anymore. And then there's pre-production, post-production, people in accounting. I love you. If you're out there and you're in accounting in the movies, thank you for making sure our checks clear. Very tough. Like when you're in the middle of Whistler, British Columbia and they're still making sure all the checks are coming through from the production company in Los Angeles. Not too easy. There's a job where you fly with film when they're shooting over the seas and it was before digital and all that stuff. They used to have to fly the film back for developing and you know, and then fly the dailies back to the set so that they could watch the dailies at the set. And this is before video monitors and everything. So there was a job sitting with the film in first class. They'd buy two tickets, one for the film, five, six film canisters. And one for the babysitter of the film. You know what? Sometimes I guess a personal assistant on the set might be the easiest job. And all you're there is sitting there catering to the actor's needs. I feel like Burger King now. I got a, can you go to wardrobe and you know, you have somebody come back and you know, fix this thing or whatever. So the assistant is just constantly on the schedule. They know the call sheets, they know the scenes, they run the lines of the actors. But the actors on the set for a good four or five hour chunk. You like shoot in the morning and then you do a lunch and you keep shooting and you have to break your actors like every six hours. And so the actors are busy for a while and don't, you know, the assistant can kind of come and go and you know, all right, you're on set. I'm gonna go run errands and do the laundry and stuff and I'll be back like later. That's maybe one of the cushiest jobs. And there there's, you know, sometimes, sometimes they're an assistant just for the movie and sometimes they're an assistant in their life and then they also come onto the movie and they inherit them and they're like, are you paying them out of your own pocket? And they're like, yeah, fine. But then the assistant thinks they're working on the movie. They're not. They're just assisting this actor. They have no say and they shouldn't tell anybody else what to do or you're not even on the movie. Very weird. But that is a weird, weird, weird position. So yeah, people out there don't think that it's just easy. And then, oh, the coolest jobs I think are like stuntman. Totally. Because I was a kid. All I wanted to be was a stuntman. Half of the reason I got into acting was because of silliness like that. Battlestar Galactica and the fall guy or I was a little later, but I liked movies like The Stuntman or Hooper and would mimic them and play jump off the roof. Oh God. And I don't just mean jump off a roof. Like one story. We're at an apartment at the beach apartment cheap at the time was like four, maybe $700 a month. And so there'd be the apartments that kind of hang out over the beach a little bit and the sands right underneath them. But there's stairs, like 20 stairs to go down. So it's another good story. So this is a two story basically, but it's over sand. Dumbass, me and my friends, we'd jump off the roof of this. So three stories and jump in the sand. Like I'm sure and you get those shin splints and everything. I really wanted to be a stuntman. And I also, I liked special effects and makeup, like special effects, makeup and stuff and blood. Blood, blood, blood. I got busted in second. Yeah, second grade for doing a crayon made a nice cool like cat scratch on my arm and it was all infected and yellow and pussy looking. All the kids are like, cool, I want one too. I'm like, cool, line up. I'm like doing all these cool. I'm like, oh man, here's a scab. And I'm like, I'm like doing all these cool makeup thingies. Like stop drawing on the other children. They're like, probably someone came in another teacher and like, why are they all the children injured in this class? So I was into that kind of stuff. ooh, that made me, Keith Coogan is now going to be a special effects makeup artist. God, I need a reality show for that. Oh, there's, there's a, okay. So since reality is now, I guess, become part of like Hollywood and series, even working on a sitcom is still, you know, a lot of the same things working on a movie, reality TV, not interested, not interested in being on it or doing it or being a part of it. I'll watch it like a car wreck every once in a while. I haven't been watching Jersey Shore or whatever, but that's a kind of easy life. Hey, let's go out and get fucked up and drink, get into fights, get arrested, get no repercussions, make millions of dollars in like special appearances. What, what do you get? Oh, 10 grand a night. What do you get? Oh, 50 grand a night just to go show up at a bar for 20 minutes, drink some vodka. Okay. That's what the fuck? I'm sure years ago when they opened Vegas, they were like, what the fuck? This is a real big what the fuck moment. It's gotten out of optimum hands. Okay. We need to stop the weird react. We need to stop preying on each other. Uh, and wanting to see just the worst of, so I'm totally guilty because of teen mom too, but that's my issues to deal with. Um, you know, I said this last week, don't buy it. Don't, you know, off the supermarket shelves. Don't buy the scandal. Don't buy the rag mags. Turns into car chases. It turns into problems. Justin Bieber, you kept your nose clean for the last week. You get the nose clean award. Although they did release the 911 tape of the officer, uh, uh, uh, councilman, uh, calling in on, uh, Justin Bieber. That was an update from last week to this week. Ooh. Keith Coogan's gonna double check his, uh, webpages again. Okay. And TMD is reporting. Oh, we're on Sage. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to repeat that. Um, so, uh, where was I? Oh, uh, yeah. Working on movies. Uh, pretty tough. The, uh, reality shows. Um, we're, we're not, Okay, strippers. See, this is the Octomom thing. Okay, I want to talk about this for a second. Octomom wanted to look and be like Angelina Jolie. I believe this was years ago. She had like an obsession with her and did her lips and did her hair and all this other stuff. Don't know if she had the kids to be famous, but she certainly didn't fail to take advantage of that crisis. Now look what happened. It's not sustainable. And I know that kids out there have a short attention span and things come and oh, it's the next thing, it's the next thing, it's the next thing. The thing three times ago is in a hotel room right now with a note to the maid that says, please don't knock on my door. So just remember that and that this is kind of disposable stuff. I'd like people to start investing again in good television, good investment in Dexter, invest in Breaking Bad, invest in those things, those products from people that work really fucking hard at it to bring you your entertainment. If reality show, I know, I hope it's a fad. I don't see it as being so because it's the Andy Warhol that everyone will have their 15 minutes of fame. Totally freaking coming true. Don't pander yourself. Don't do something. Let's have some respect. Let's pick it back up again, people. And there can be fine art. Think, you know, like a good cannibal. Think Hannibal. We can listen to music. We can listen to good classical symphonic music. We can be cultured. We not support Octomom. Please, please. Whatever move she does, if you are an adult male in Hallandale, Florida, please don't go to the Playhouse Gentleman's Club and see her strip. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just, please, don't. Oh, it's already happened. Sorry. That is an update. After months of anticipation, she has gotten up on a pole. And this photo shows her in a schoolgirl outfit. Do not go to 30milezone.com, tmz.com, and see these pics. They're dreadful. Update on Lindsay Lohan's crash. She had said at the time that the brakes failed. Portia, and the test of the brakes after the accident, they worked just fine. They still work fine, even after the wreck. So they're saying, you know, didn't, no, it wasn't that. So who knows what happened with that accident? I always try to make my way closer to set if I can, during the day, if I'm about to go to the set that day. Yeah. I would like an hour from after you get set, start driving away up on like, Pacific Coast Highway. I'm pretty sure they were probably shooting right there in Santa Monica, where she was staying when she couldn't be revived. And they call 911 a few days later after the accident. She couldn't be revived and they call 911. They said they were shooting at like near shutters in Santa Monica. This is just south of the Santa Monica Pier, kind of before you hit Venice. That horrible long, hot beach. Ew, awful. Filthy water. Don't, don't go swimming. But, um, we've got, it's gotten out of control from Octomom, Lindsay Lohan, Justin Bieber, losing Sage Stallone and, not, not too happy about it. Keith Coogan does not approve. And Keith Coogan is not happy about it. There was another death. Hold on. Oh yeah. Let's see if I can spell this right. We have another death. This is, um, that's not who it was. Hold on. Now I'm a, Ooh, we can review for famous deaths. Oh, this is a great web page. Oh, the site is closed. Damn. I'm sorry, people. I just got so excited. Cause I thought I found a web page that said famous deaths. We can review. And I got really excited there. I'm sorry. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. made The Sting, which is another one of my favorite movies. You may know him from a movie called Driving Miss Daisy he produced. This guy was class. This guy was Hollywood. Maybe also partied a bit. I don't know because his movies tended to have a pretty real edge to it and hire some pretty fucking authentic people. It's not like you're hiring people from the cast of Wings. The Sting, Jaws, cool. It's just cool shit. He's the only son of Daryl F. Zanuck, who was a famous producer at 20th Century Fox. Richard Zanuck, he came into his own and won Oscars and did it upright. His father had produced Cleopatra. Other films like MASH and Bushcasting, Sonnet's Kid, Sound of Music, Planet of the Apes. Richard, the son, I mean, he'd hired Steven Spielberg to direct his first movie in 1974, The Sugarland Express. If it weren't for this man, Spielberg might not have directed Jaws. And then we wouldn't have had just the coolest movie. Best movie out there. Jaws is still my absolute favorite movie. So Richard D. Zanuck, Hollywood producer, he died at 77. This is not, you know, you expect that. He had teamed up with Zanuck and Brown, that's right. And they had done The Verdict, also Cocoon. Mr. Zanuck, you will be missed. That happens here in Hollywood. People move on. But really, this is old classic Hollywood confession to make. I've been totally obsessed lately with the RKO 40-acre back lot. I don't know if anybody, the place was even torn down in 76. I never even set foot, I think, on this lot. But everybody's seen it. Mission Impossible, the original series. Star Trek, the original series. The Untouchables, the original series. Superman, the original series. These were shot on this lot adjacent to the MGM studios that MGM finally took under their wing. Finally, Desilu Productions bought it. And they did the coolest things. They produced the coolest shows. Mission Impossible, Star Trek being a few of them. They also produced The Addams Family. Did not shoot it that lot though. I'm obsessed with the studio because it's gone. And things come and go in this town. And even the Chinese theater. The Mass. Grom. In Chinese. This is not the real front. This is facade. They moved the booth. They moved that. Oh, we redid. We refreshed this. Nothing really stays. Everything is pretty transient. And comes and goes. I was talking about this earlier. With that next thing. That next thing. Next fado. This is the fado the minute. What about the fado? 7 fado. ago what's it doing tonight um that i want people to try to reward quality i want people to reach out and try to um slow it down a little bit read maybe a little bit more get a book um i'm being totally i sound like a douche and i sound like oh he wasn't he smart uh no i love trashy tv just like everybody else but i feel like it's doing something to us collectively as a society that and i'm just guilty of it because i'm part of the business and i produce i mean absolutely i put work out there that i just for the money and learn you don't do something just for the money um do it for that and the money but you don't do it just for the money um have some have some balls take some risks put the pills down uh take some chances let people see who you are let people see you fail you're never gonna succeed unless you try to fail um stay at it create produce or die uh diet meaning whither get out of town a very tough town i had a gentleman online wants to be an actor and wants to come out here to uh los angeles and uh ask uh you know can you help me get you get an agent and uh no i can't i don't know you i can't you know recommend you to someone i don't you know we're Where's the real? Where's the work? Why are you approaching me? I, you know, I couldn't get an agent if I wanted to. You get very lucky when you get an agent. It's like all good. Unless you're really, really hot. You get sharked by like William Wallace Endeavor. You, you know, it's tough. You got to be union. You got to pay your dues literally and figuratively. You can't just kind of step in. So, you know, I get this asked. I got this asked by Lisa Bonet. I get this asked by David Duchovny. Not necessarily the agent thing, but how do I, with Lisa Bonet it was. Lisa Bonet was like, how do I get an agent? How do I get into the business? This pre-Cosby show. David Duchovny was on the set of Don't Go on the Babysitter's. But he's like, hey, how did you get this deal? Or how did, you know, how did you get the agent you're with? So you never know. It could, and it could be someone who's, you know, done a production of Sweet Charity for their local, you know, college theater group. And they were great. The point is, I absolutely took the time and I fed back the information. If you go to SAG, Screen Actors Guild, if you look up SAG approved agents, and there is a list. And they provide you, if you're West Coast, East Coast, whatever town you're in, you want to look up people approved, agents approved by the union, approved, not approved by the union, affiliated with both unions. They provide it. And it's got contact information. It's got emails. It's got phones. It's got addresses. Do the work. Make the calls. Get packages. It takes hard work. Tough, though. I'll tell you. And I'll warn you. Behind my agent's desk is a three and a half foot stack of manila envelopes that have never been opened. They've never been thrown away. But they just haven't been gotten to yet. So I'm sure, you know, every week picks up a stack of 20, maybe 25. And goes through and the links and watches reels. And that's why keep your reel short. Keep your reel to two, three minutes. They're not going to watch anything longer than that. And everything look as good as it can. Great pictures. Good. Of course, everyone fakes their first resumes. Make them good lies. Make them ask you, did you really do an all black musical production of Oedipus? Yes, I did. I am Keith Coogan. And I have nothing to give you but share my experience. I love, you know, anything I can do to help. I've only had one path through this industry. And it was pretty easy to get into. So I can't always be the best one for the advice. I do know it's very, very, very tough. Be prepared. Be strong. But be vulnerable and open. It's a great town. It's a great business. Sage Stallone, you will be missed. And Richard D. Sanik, thank you for the work. I'm Keith Coogan. Thank you so much for listening, everybody. And have a good night and be good to each other. Rest in peace, Sage. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.