Good evening, everybody. Thanks for joining us. This is Sex and Dippity. I'm Dr. Limor Blockman, and I have wonderful guests in the studio with me. Very excited. And both genders this time. Yeah, my name is Dave Corrado. I'm a stand-up comic, and sitting to my right, I have not really had the pleasure of speaking with you, Delia. I'm sorry, talk another word. Please introduce yourself, my darling. Hello, everybody. My name is Delia Broccato. I am the host of Delia's Dark Side on Sundays at 4 p.m. Very happy to be on your show, finally. Thank you, honey. Thank you, honey. It was such a blast to be on your show. Yeah. And we started discussing... Fetishes and a lot of other things that were so intriguing. And I would love to carry on and talk about that. Let's go. So, before I start presenting everything that I brought for today's show, what do you think, David, about fetishism? Well, you know, we all have our quirks. I'm what you might call, I'm kind of vanilla, you know. You said it. I was told I was Disneyland. Is that right? Yeah. I love that. That sounds good. Yeah, Jimmy Cabs told me I was Disneyland. Well, we love Jimmy. I'm trying to get him on the show. I mean, I mean, you know, maybe I'm like kind of orally fixated, I suppose. Yeah. You know. On what? Well, boobs and pussy and stuff. So, you like licking boobs and you like eating pussy? And kissing, too. Oh, kissing. A man after my own heart. So, that's my thing. I mean, that's really all I, you know. It's not. So, you don't have like a hidden secret crush on something like a body part or a trait or something. I don't know. I'm in love with flight attendants. I have a fetish for, you know, like, I don't know, like, for instance. No, I don't. I don't really have it. But like for you. Oh, I don't know. Like, or I don't know. I have a. Or, like, a breast. A meter maid. A meter maid? Do you really? I did not notice that. Yeah. Okay. It's a good thing there's like a computer blocking my views so I can't, I don't get distracted. I don't know what you're talking about. No, but what do you, so, yeah. So, so, David says he's vanilla. Mm-hmm. And Delia is not. No? You're into all kinds of stuff? Yeah. I mean, on my show, you know, I touch a lot on like, you know, necrophilia and just like different, you know, fetishes and stuff. Yeah. Obviously, I have never fucked a dead person but I've, you know, I used to be a phone sex operator and I've talked to. That's fascinating. Yeah. And I've. Tell me a little about that. It was very fun. Actually, I enjoyed doing the 1-800 numbers more than the 900 because the 900, you have to kind of modify words. Like, you can't say pussy. You have to say my. Really? They are restricting? Yeah, like my seething gash or some shit like, you know. Oh, please. You're seething gash. Yeah. You motherfucker. Yeah. But the fetish lines, you know, I really made a lot of money doing that. This is like back in the late 90s when phone sex operating, you know, being a phone sex operator was like really cool and it was like the end thing. Oh, it was. Yeah. It was huge. Yeah. Yeah. So, and, you know, I got a couple calls from guys who, you know, like to fuck dead people. Really? Yeah. What was the most common thing that you came across when you were an operator? The most common thing that I came across was just like, you know, a lot of men like cross dressing. That was very common. Yes. Cross dressing. It's true. And, you know, they just like to talk about it back then, you know. And then when I used to do it like about five years ago, I had to be the cross dresser. Like they had lines now where guys would call and you play the cross dresser. Right. Yeah. So they give you like the script or whatever you have to, you know, you have to read and, you know, you, you know, just talk about like, you know, you're taking these kind of hormones or whatever because some of the guys would be like. Really? So you're very attentive to their interests. Yeah. I actually, we discussed it on one of the shows and we spoke about how very fitting into people's fantasies are these lines because you're actually kind of feeding into whatever they're interested in. I mean, you're going to be whatever they want you to be. Right. And it's kind of in the manual. If I remember correctly, how they kind of certify you to do this, they tell you exactly what words you need to use or what act you should use. Right. I mean, they kind of tell you be this, be that, be the virgin, be the. Right. Yeah. They give you like a thick, almost like a book. Right. It's a manual. Yeah. And they tell you exactly what words and and what are you into tonight, you know, and stuff like that, because they really look at David and it's like, what can I do for you tonight? You know, kind of that. Yeah. And you know a lot about it. And so so you came across a lot of crossdressers and what other fetishes were common for men? Men who wanted to fuck, you know, young girls, you know, underage, barely legal. Yeah. I'm talking about not like nine, nine years old. Yes. Eleven, 13 year old. And we were talking about Lolita. Yeah. That's not because Lolita is not kosher. No. Yeah. And so it's true. It's not kosher. And. Or incest. Or incest. Yeah. Incest is very. I'm telling you, my grandma is like, yeah. She's quelling right now. Quelling. Honestly. But it's really very common. Yeah. And almost, you know, to the extent that and I'm not going to really insist on talking about it because I don't know about how much does the audience want to hear about it. But honestly, and being truthful, a lot of men have this fantasy about having sex with a very young girl. Yeah. Not necessarily most of them will not admit to it. And David is not one of them. No. I tend to go. You prefer the mature woman. I think that like when I, you know, became sexual, I was always attracted to like older women. I mean, like teachers, you know, supervisors. Authorities. Authorities. Yeah. And I still have that. And I'm now I'm a I'm an alter cocker. I'm an old. I'm an old. I'm an old fart. And so now it's like, you know, this half of these MILFs on the porn sites are like could be my daughter. I know. It's like a MILF. She's 30. I know. It's you know. So but but it's still I still have that fantasy in my brain of like, you know, you know, older women like seducing me and, you know. Yeah. And in your fantasy, how does that go? Because I'm dying to hear like one of your let's say. A teacher is taking you to a private room and spanks you. You know, it's so funny when you watch. All right. If you're if you're the kind of person who watches porn on the Internet. Yes. Like it's I'm not saying that's the kind of somebody else somebody else, you know, it's like, you know, you know, you Google busty teacher, you know, and then like something comes up and it's like it's always it's always the same thing. It's like you have not been paying attention. To your your your grades are falling off. Yeah. It's always the same thing. Yeah, because why are you so distracted? And it's like she's got, you know, humongous boobs. Yeah. And obviously, why are you just let's just take care of this right now. So you can concentrate on your grades. Yes. Do your algebra or grammar or whatever it is. Yeah. But yeah, the scripts are very repetitive. And yeah, they're not that original. You know, the guy always comes to fix the pipes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Plumber. Yes. There's always a plumber. And like he doesn't come with tools. I don't know. Just his shirt half unbuttoned with all these muscles and shit. His own tool. Yeah. And he's coming, you know. Yeah. Another one is like the mother comes home and finds the two teens like, you know, screwing. And she's like, now I'm going to show you. How dare you do this in my house. Yeah. Let me show you how to do it right. You're not doing it right yet. I love that. That's that's great. So that's your major fantasy. Like when someone older, more mature experience takes over. That's like the kind of I guess. Yeah, I suppose. Oh, yeah. Because, you know, I'm asking you as the representative of the male society here. And I want to say that I came across a recent study that asked men. First of all, I just want to say that it kind of affirmed the whole idea that men are one track, just one track mind. They can't really focus. I don't know how you guys can focus on two boobs. I mean, it's two. I figured out how to do it. Really? It's like massage the one and suck on the other. But yeah, it's it's but seriously, it's really hard for men to stay focused on two things at the same time. It's really not. It's really not. It's a biological thing. You know, women are more using of their right side of their hemisphere and the right hemisphere and right side of the brain. And and women are more able to multitask. But in general, men were asked, how would look how would their ideal day look like? What will they do on their ideal day in terms of how many hours will you spend having sex? How many hours will you spend eating? How many hours will you spend jerking off? I don't know, playing, talking to your friends, whatever. What do you think, you guys? Let me hear both of you. Well, how many hours will I spend eating? You as a woman? I'm sure it would be different. But what would be both? Remember, we touched on I'm bisexual. Yeah, I don't know if I would eat pussy that long. I don't know. Probably. I don't know. I kind of liked it last time I did it. Yeah. Yeah. You would spend a few. Yeah. Until Yeah, she came. Yeah. No, I don't want her to come because I want to scissor her. Nice. I mean, you know, it all depends on when I'm drunk. I feel like, I don't know, I don't want to do it. I like to I really get into like, you know, giving, you know, second deck. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I haven't really did it while I was sober anymore. Because we mostly when we get into sex, it's like when we're both drunk. Yeah. Speaking about you and your your hubby. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Because it's like, otherwise, you know, he's too stressed out. And sometimes I want to, you know, do it. You know, when we're sober. Right. You know, you are because a lot of times I don't remember. Right. But that's unfortunate because I had sex last night. I'm like, we did. I like to remember these things. Because for me, for instance, and I know that a lot of women that I come across, I come across with either work wise or friends. I think that and I like porn, you know, watching porn is a good thing, I think. But in general, I think that since our minds are so fascinating, a lot of the experiences can be usable as you know, as a masturbatory material. And I find that many times that previous activities or previous encounters can really be usable for that. And you don't really have to go into new porn or other stuff. So to me, but if you're drunk, or you're under some some influence, and you can remember and then it's not usable. Right. I mean, it's like to me to stay, I don't really drink or do any drugs. But in general, and it's for me, it's for me, it's for me, it's funny, because I'm drinking out of I have to tell the viewers, she's drinking. It's water, but we don't have a cup here. So I'm drinking from this little thing. And I'm like, reserving. But it's like, so for me, the experience of having a sober sex is probably the most important factor because I can really reuse it. Right. And when you're doing it, you're doing it under and you don't remember. It's kind of like you're lacking something. Don't you feel? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. How do you feel? Well, you know that men are more visual than women, right? That's the assumption. I kind of find that it doesn't necessarily prove itself. But yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I would like I'm looking at porn. I it's able to when I was younger, and I hornier. I mean, I could like you are plenty horny now. I'm okay. I'm okay for you know, for my age, I guess. But you know, when I was a kid, like 16. Yes. I could just think about some girl that I saw in English class and then go home and masturbate. Yeah, exactly. I can do that. Now. Especially English class. I guess I need more visual stimulation. Right? So a little older. So you need to see the actual act in order to get aroused. Like more preferably. Maybe. Yeah, well, the the act and or or even like just the scenario, you know, like we were talking about before, you know, like, like the woman, the the teacher or the mother or something like that. Yeah. So for Yeah, so the English class needs to be more elaborate now. I said, Yeah, it's like I'm slowing down. I'm heading towards retirement. I got one foot in the grave. Yeah, really? Just like Dave touched on, you know, being you know, 16. I had the same experience. I was talking about with Goth Mark last week, he was on my show. When I was in junior high school. Yes. I you know, had fantasies. I would fantasize about guys all day boys. And I would, like, get wet. Yeah. And stay wet all day. And I didn't know what the hell was going on. Yeah, it's like soggy in my underwear. Like, I need to change my underwear. grades and everything because all we do is sit up there and just think about him kissing me or him finger banging me because I didn't know anything about dick at that time. Yeah. It was early. Yeah. I was like, 1314 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I started having sex early. Really? So yeah, about 14. Really? Yeah. But he was my boyfriend. First thing he never I always laughed that I kind of fucked him up. I think he never got married and he's like, oh, I'm still kind of traveling the world's in search of I don't know why. I just I literally so uh but yeah there'll never be another like you yeah lamar isn't it kind of i mean ideally don't you think it's kind of shocking that like you come from you were raised in israel which is a kind of a conservative culture i was maybe not secular so if you are secular then you don't really know obviously i don't practice anything it's pretty obvious but yeah the country in general you know judaism and everything is is more intense but yeah but if you don't practice it then yeah no no not at all but we were talking about like when i was younger like guys get these things called the nuisance boners like that's a good term i wasn't familiar with that i think i was like taking that a nuisance like in high school well no like just before you have to like the the the bell rings and you have to like walk to the door and you're like you're in an erection hunched over yeah because it pulls you down really yeah i was walking around making you watch walk hunchback and shit i know it's like no but seriously really it's so bothersome well it wasn't well i mean it was just embarrassing you know and i or in swim class yeah well but you know in swim class is shrinkage because cool water yeah if you're looking at girls if you're looking at girls and then you're like your dick is confused it's like you grow you shrink what am i gonna do yeah yeah one time one time i oh god i i i had finished a swim class and there was this girl who really you know i got around for you and i well i had a a big you know i a big i was boner i was pitching a tent i was pitching a tent and some but you know yeah those are my younger days yeah well it's very sweet and natural but i was i was mentioning that because when men were asked what would their uh their ideal day would be it's so funny because men are so trivial you know it's like it's not complex as you said you see a girl in swim class you know you're gonna rouse you get a tent so but in general but men uh were so funny they were they would spend half an hour grooming they weren't big groomers i know some men they're huge groomers but in general men were not so infatuated with the whole idea of taking care of their bodily hair and whatever so they would do half an hour grooming two and a half hours eating and drinking that's all three and a half hours seeing friends and family working and sleeping and four and a half hours having sex so the top priority and the top activity was still having sex how you how do you guys feel about it does that make sense oh god i wish i had four and a half i wish i had like four and a half hours a day i'm minus four and a half hours well you know unless you count masturbation that's like that's the masturbation can be a long you know right activity right it could be long yeah long yeah yeah especially on weekends when yeah i know you have time and it's all there but um but yeah but men were so funny because all these other activities even seeing friends or even eating or drinking or sleeping you know that that was interesting to me because and i and i'm curious about how you feel i mean does that make sense that i'm talking average age between i don't know 30 and 45 that was the average male uh questioned um do you think that it falls into um like for your life for instance would you pick that activity as the most profound intense factor in your life as a daily basis i think um as i'm getting older i i'm i'm more like into getting socializing you know i mean i do stand-up comedy yeah and so in stand-up you really need feedback you need it's right from the audience it's a give and take exactly same with sex and obviously if it's only give get the away i'm done here then you become a necrophiliac yeah it's like i'm doing all the work she's just like yeah so uh yeah no socializing like this weekend i had a well i had a i had a great weekend i did a i did a show friday night i did a show saturday night i saw an old friend who came into town we got together we had a lunch a couple you know we had lunch today and yeah you know just i don't know and and you know and seeing my friends and my parents and stuff like that it's like um i don't know that's like becoming kind of my thing i think so the socializing would be for you more important in a daily routine than sex well well sometimes you know it's like you know i get the urge to you know i see somebody a you know a girl or something and then you know i need to go and then you change your mind and then you're like hmm that sounds interesting to spend four hours doing that but getting to see me getting somebody to laugh is almost like a conquering experience it is very similar to a climax you know they actually say that and that applies to olympic um achievers for instance because dopamine is such an intense um neurotransmitter that if uh it works both ways for instance if you when you climax there's a rush of dopamine released and then when you achieve something like in for instance when you stand in front of an audience or you achieve something really big there's the same rush of endorphins of of of dopamine and it's equivalent and then uh people may say that once they i don't know won a medal or managed to get a good laugh from people they were feeling physically on a verge of a climax which is very interesting yeah i uh well i i did a set last night and uh i i was kind of struggling i thought a little bit but then my closer was like i i killed i mean my clothes are just like yeah and they were like just dumbfounded because what i did just it blew their mind okay and it's like very curious yeah what did you do what did you do uh well i uh that's like oh i gave her oral sex you always fainted what is it what did you do i did a song and dance routine oh you did oh my god yeah and uh you know and it's like i i don't want to brag but i'm like one of the best dancers i can dance i can dance anybody out of the room i am like the best because you got a professional dancer right here and i'm an instructor too you don't want to have a dance off oh my god really so that's what you did you danced and you sang i sang the background vocals to an icely brothers song oh wow so you can do the falsetto just just the background because i premised it by like i did i haven't had time to learn the lead vocal but i also went into like a dance thing in the middle you know during the break when the lead was like ah oh my god and that killed it but i can yeah i can do the splits i can do it can you do bus like eight print splits i can i can do all that oh you gotta you gotta get on the flow tell me about that dancing uh are you on an instructor yeah i'm a dance instructor i teach um dance it out at the canyon country community center in santa clarita okay yeah i've been a professional dancer for over 30 years wow that's really impressive yeah and who do you usually uh train males females um both but it seems like only females you know one are more interested yeah like i'm a dance choreographer a choreographed for the um coc dance company for about 10 years and um yeah i do everything i'm like i love to choreograph like hard music i love to dance like hard music i love to dance like hard music hard rock stuff right and sometimes like it like freaks out the the staff but i'm like you know what whatever you know i like it that's great the thing is i believe that if males uh took more cues from you they would you know because women love men actually the males in the dance company there's males in a dance company but like you know um this my class right now there was only like seven women there but hopefully more guys will come you know yeah but i believe it's like you know learning the secrets of country lingus yeah i'm learning the secrets of country lingus i'm learning the secrets of country lingus like if you're a good dancer yeah you know how to sweep a woman off her feet right yeah so they say yeah if guys were smarter they would take your class because like you'd have like one guy and like like 15 girls i know that's like a golden opportunity i know it sounds like it it's kind of like yeah but if you can dance really well it's like showboating it's kind of like look i can i've got it's like the people you know no but it is it is right it is showing yeah it's very true because it's showing your abilities and women do appreciate it but i think not a lot of men are aware of how influential it could be women love men who know how to dance guys it's very true it's very true i'm a big advocate of it and take a dance class if you're a guy i mean well a lot of the problem is you know a lot of male dancers happen to be homosexuals yeah it's true because you know getting involved in it to begin with is kind of uh not as mainly in most uh guys in a younger at a younger age would prefer i don't know basketball or so that would be even better if like you know more um you know heterosexual men would take it because you would stand out among right right and as david said you know you're going to have 15 women right all over you and they once they know you're heterosexual oh oh my god yeah it's like it's a whole party you're not gonna know you're not gonna know where to put it the variety but i want to uh bring an interesting um condition that is very common again with men mostly with men than with women and it's called sexsomnia does it tell you something uh before i elaborate on it what does it sound like it sounds like it sounds like um like uh what is the omnia is omnia is like you're very you're very right she said sleep sleep yes yeah it's sleep sex um and that's a condition that is a real condition um that mostly men suffer from uh sexsomnia is uh is a parasomnia it's it's a part of the sleep uh disturbing factors like apnea and other sleepwalking and other conditions and during that if someone is suffering from that condition it's really it could be really dangerous and endangering to the person himself and to people around them because that could be from uh in sleep masturbation to initiating sex with your partner into rape even oh wow wait yeah you're talking about like one person having sex with another person who's asleep no no no the person who is asleep is engaging in sexual activity with someone else who could be awake and they're sleeping like sleepwalking right they don't yeah it's called it's a non-ram activity um a controversy to ram activity you know everybody knows rem the eye movement while you're asleep then this this specific condition happens to people as a non-ram activity and what they do is they can get up they can leave the house and attack somebody what as a part of that like sleepwalking yes it's very similar to sleepwalking only it's aggressive really yes but you're sleep you're asleep but you can yeah but your your eyes are open well i don't know exactly i don't know if it's exactly uh what's the condition what the condition allows but uh they claim that the best way to deal with it especially well locking doors is a good you know beginning to really kind of kind of close it in to a specific space and not allow the person to go and fetch you know other people so locking doors is a major thing but also you know being very aware of it and trying to kind of uh avoid any any disturbance or any why are you laughing because you have a scenario no i'm just thinking of a story that that i i slept walked once yeah so it's not you don't suffer from that condition it's just no no no right but i was a kid i was in high school and i guess i was stressed out and i i walked into my parents uh bedroom and uh and my my dad goes what's wrong and i go we have to go make the things for the people talking in your sleep i don't even know if you're really sleepwalking i think you know i was i i don't remember it you know no no yeah like he's like no he's like no just that you don't you're fine just just go back to sleeping you're fine don't worry about it yeah but 11 of men suffer from it it's a lot from that sexomnia that condition four percent of women and uh it's really it's it's a major problem that uh a lot of uh doctors don't even know how to a lot of physicians don't even know how to deal with and there really isn't um a fix for it there isn't any any um medication that can be given um if they found that people it's partially hereditary it has to do with family uh related and also um drugs and and alcohol can contribute to that so just you know the awareness and and everything to to that condition but i find it interesting uh that someone would just go and have you know imposed sex yeah on someone and then not remember it it's an interesting condition yeah yeah but and it is interesting that men suffer from it much more than women i've never heard of it before i mean i never heard of that how do you how do you even become aroused if you're asleep i don't i don't know well yeah you can you can have a new you know you can have a wet dream so it's very similar you know i've never had one in my life you don't know maybe it did maybe it dried out until you i started jerking off at a young age you slept in it yeah you didn't know you know like delia said about her underwear yeah you know it's like she noticed because she was awake but maybe i got snot in my panties when did you finally start having sex i was um 17. okay yeah and your experience was with a man of course yeah okay when i had intercourse yeah yeah and and uh so your experience with women was much later no uh well my first experience before like yeah what i told you earlier yeah yeah oh um the actual you know initiated experience um that was it wasn't much later i would say that was probably like probably around 18. okay yeah how about you david look i i'm a nerdy guy i am socially awkward i don't i don't i i i plead the fifth i was i was in my 20s oh no but honestly i couldn't close the deal most guys are like i was nine years old and i was fucking yeah yes yeah all the like me at nine years old you know what of course i i you know i had zits and braces and glasses and skinny and you know and i dress like a nerd and you know it's like i still you know but honestly it is an interesting thing because um biologically and that's also something that they examined they were asking how uh quick should you have an intercourse with or any you know sexual related encounter with your partner as soon as you start dating them how do you guys feel about it is that something worth waiting is that even in the custom of waiting at this point in our society in our western society no no so people immediately as they meet they jump in bed not as soon as you meet but like a second date i'm not the one to say that i've waited like three months or like two days whatever i don't know like if i'm attracted to you we're gonna fuck probably that night okay so it could be the first day because i think you're just like chemistry you're just kind of like holding it and you're like you're like upsetting yourself like so you think it's a bad idea i think so but it's up to others i think so it's like you're what are you withholding it's like what are you withholding it's like why are you withholding it's like why are you withholding it's like you like this person he likes you otherwise i don't know i kind of think that they feel like you know you're playing with them it's like you get into the act a little bit you're going to kiss them you're going to dick tease them then you're going to send them on their way with the fucking hard ass blue balls and right so so that might but that's very true but that could be maybe the question if there's initiated any uh any activity initiated to begin with like touching kissing i don't know like caressing or whatever laying in bed together then it's maybe problematic to kind of say okay yeah this is it yeah this is what you're getting today i'm going to send you on your merry way and then i'll see you next time yeah yeah the guys like walk into the car okay so that could be a problem yeah but maybe and just a suggestion i don't know uh but maybe if you avoid any uh really intense hectic you know kind of intense heavy uh hot and heavy activity to begin with then maybe it's possible and if it is possible is it worth waiting is it something that is worth postponing if you're really attracted to the guy yeah um i say let your freak flag fly but you know go for it if if yes i think so but don't wait that's your opinion that's my opinion okay dave well i think if you're looking for a long-term relationship i mean there's got to be physical attraction yeah i'm not talking about a one-night stand because that's obvious you go in there for that right it's got to be about the person you know there's got to be there's got to be some chemistry or whatever like it's a like two like a puzzle piece you know but um in terms of sexual attraction i mean sometimes sometimes you uh there's a like a you saw you've heard of the film fatal attraction yes you know sometimes you don't want anybody to cook your bunny exactly exactly exactly and i love my rabbit and i i don't want anybody so cute i don't want bunny soup at all so it's not a delicatessen yeah no not for me okay so you feel like you went on first dates i mean with women i've uh i've been able to uh score on a second date and a first date okay and but did you feel that it was worth waiting that you i'm curious about your um your view of it as a male uh when you are coming across and i'm sure you went on a date with someone who you find attractive yeah i mean if you're really you know horny i mean it's like it's like you think you think it's it's going to be the perfect thing i mean it's like boom i did it but then jumping in bed yeah okay it can come back to haunt you you know it can yeah it can boomerang on you yeah okay so what do you what would you do like you let me give you a scenario you meet a woman that you find highly attractive she she's very attractive she's very attractive she's very attractive she's very attractive she's very attractive she obliges and says you know she obliges and says you know she obliges and says you know i'm like that's all i want to do tonight is go i'm like that's all i want to do tonight is go i'm like that's all i want to do tonight is go on a date and she gives you the opportunity on a date and she gives you the opportunity on a date and she gives you the opportunity to touch her well of course i would you would to touch her well of course i would you would to touch her well of course i would you would yeah you wouldn't because if you think that no yeah you wouldn't because if you think that no yeah you wouldn't because if you think that no because you said i'm not gonna hold back because you said i'm not gonna hold back because you said i'm not gonna hold back you know okay but if it's a long you wanna you know okay but if it's a long you wanna you know okay but if it's a long you wanna something that is long term would you something that is long term would you something that is long term would you consider maybe consider maybe consider maybe maybe we should you know i don't know if maybe we should you know i don't know if maybe we should you know i don't know if she'll approach you and you know offer she'll approach you and you know offer she'll approach you and you know offer herself but she'll you know kind of be herself but she'll you know kind of be herself but she'll you know kind of be well well well the repercussions sometimes outweigh the the repercussions sometimes outweigh the the repercussions sometimes outweigh the uh initial uh gratification right but uh initial uh gratification right but uh initial uh gratification right but this is the point yes this is the point yes this is the point yes you know so what would you you know so what would you you know so what would you you would wait or no i wouldn't you would wait or no i wouldn't you would wait or no i wouldn't i mean you know i've like uh you know i i mean you know i've like uh you know i i mean you know i've like uh you know i still wouldn't i mean you know if like still wouldn't i mean you know if like still wouldn't i mean you know if like if i if i'm with a girl and i'm attracted if i if i'm with a girl and i'm attracted if i if i'm with a girl and i'm attracted to her and she gives me the opportunity to her and she gives me the opportunity to her and she gives me the opportunity yeah shoot you know how about a woman yeah shoot you know how about a woman yeah shoot you know how about a woman that would want you to wait would you that would want you to wait would you that would want you to wait would you wait wait wait if i really liked her and i was how long if i really liked her and i was how long if i really liked her and i was how long um um um how long um how long um how long um two three ten dates two three ten dates two three ten dates i guess i guess i guess i've uh i've heard like which one is it i've uh i've heard like which one is it i've uh i've heard like which one is it how long i i don't know i guess i would how long i i don't know i guess i would how long i i don't know i guess i would wait look i because because i can always wait look i because because i can always wait look i because because i can always go go home and self-gratify go go home and self-gratify go go home and self-gratify right yeah right yeah right yeah the reason i'm asking is because um a the reason i'm asking is because um a the reason i'm asking is because um a number of studies suggested that we are number of studies suggested that we are number of studies suggested that we are biologically hardwired to um biologically hardwired to um biologically hardwired to um to kind of you know good things come to to kind of you know good things come to to kind of you know good things come to those who wait that's like our those who wait that's like our those who wait that's like our biological hard wiring biological hard wiring biological hard wiring and they claim that women that kind of and they claim that women that kind of and they claim that women that kind of uh alluded to the anticipation and uh alluded to the anticipation and uh alluded to the anticipation and having their men waiting having their men waiting having their men waiting and and checked upon it if that man would and and checked upon it if that man would and and checked upon it if that man would wait wait wait kind of scored the right providers or kind of scored the right providers or kind of scored the right providers or the right men for the job for instance the right men for the job for instance the right men for the job for instance to be a good father to be a good father to be a good father to sire you know good sperm to good kids to sire you know good sperm to good kids to sire you know good sperm to good kids uh other factors that they uh other factors that they uh other factors that they that they factored in so the question is ball you. Well, Jessie, she really is interested in you, but she wants to see if you are going to hang in there. She wants to see if you're not going to just, you know, lose interest if she doesn't deliver. And that happens a lot because in this day and age in our society, most people are jumping in bed. I'm not saying yes or no, good or bad. I'm just saying, you know, to the factor of, is it really representative of how good this diet would be? Is this going to work out? And the researchers said that people that did have the tendency to wait and kind of hold and hang in there created the ability to create, like to, to, to found an, you know, a good couple. I, when I, I used to, where I used to work, there was a girl who I was very, she was very nice, nice. And she was a Muslim. And I don't have that many Muslim friends. I have, I guess a couple, but she's, she was a really sweet person. And when I was going through this thing with this one girlfriend, she's like, no, you, you, you did it too quick. It was like, you know, it's like, you can't just jump into it like that. Okay. And, um, and then I said to you that you jumped into it too quick. That's what she said. How quick was it? I was on the second date. Okay. And she said, if you had waited, it would have been better. I don't know. She just seemed to have some kind of wisdom about her, you know, and, um, well, she comes from a society and culture that doesn't, you know, necessarily, uh, really condone that kind of behavior. No, but you understand that the Muslim, you know, if she's a Muslim, honestly, no, but isn't that what you suggested? No. Well, I'm just thinking about this time. She, uh, she was on the phone with somebody and, um, you know, I, I was, I was flirting with her for a long time. And finally she's, she's like, gets off the phone. That was my boyfriend. Okay. And I go, have you done the nasty yet? And she goes, goodbye. She was a guest. She didn't want to talk about it. No. She felt uncomfortable. Yeah. So I, I mean, I said, aren't a lot of them like very like, yeah, I think that it's a cultural thing, but I couldn't, when I first met her, I could not tell that she was a Muslim because she would wear these like low cut, like tops. Really? Because in her country they have to be all covered up. Yeah. Yeah. She wasn't modest. No. Well, maybe she was a secular Muslim. No, she was actually very, uh, involved in the, um, she was religious. Yeah. I mean, but I think it was more for maybe a, you know, just a social gratification and, you know, the being part of, right. Just to take part in society. Like, like, like the, what, what we're doing here, we're talking on the, on the podcast because it's an outlet, right? Creatively. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So this is, she engaged in it as just an outlet. I think so. Okay. Well, we were discussing how early, uh, should one have sex. And I don't know, we, uh, you, you started not as early and David didn't reveal it, but he was in his twenties. I was the worst. I was the, the juvenile delinquent. Well, you had the looks. You two, you two gals had the looks. I, uh, let me just jump and attack you. The poor thing. But seriously, they found that, uh, guys, you know, in, uh, in a society where it was, and I wasn't kidding. You know, uh, juvenile delinquency was, was more, uh, more, uh, fitting into the early age of having sex and males were actually engaging in, in full sexual activity at 12 and a half at 1230. They were very early age, uh, starting to have sex mostly with women. They were older than them, which I find very interesting. And, um, and a lot of, you know, yeah, a lot of these guys, for instance, I think the, the story of Mary Kayla Turner, I don't know if you remember, you guys remember that story. Um, the school teacher with, uh, from Florida, I believe. I think she was Floridian if I remember correctly. Yeah. Is that that pretty blonde teacher? Yeah. She was very good looking. And she was very good looking and, but they had a few kids and they are together now. Are they still, they're still together? Yes. She's with the kid that she molested? She's with, yeah. Oh. She's with that kid and they have three or four kids. Is he 18 now? He is. He matured ever since. Yes. This happened, I believe in the late nineties or something. I thought they, I thought they broke up, but. They, no, they never broke up. They was just, she was, uh, they, she was forced to separate from him, uh, because she, he was 12. But she went to jail too. She went to jail for a long time and she gave birth to their second child in jail. So yeah. And, um. So they gave him conjugal visits then? Yes. Well, they, to begin with, they didn't allow her. Anything because she was supposed to not meet him and due to the fact that they did meet in his car one time, she got pregnant the second time. Yeah. So that is a prime example that the young ones, and he was really from a problematic family and kind of a shady background. And that's what the studies show that these kids are mostly prone to early sexual activity, which I find very interesting. But still the boys were much younger than the girls. So the boys were usually, having sex with older women. Well, there's, there's a double standard. You know, it's like guys like, like myself, which is like, it's like, I wish my, you know, Debbie Latourneau or whatever would have hit on me when I was 13. Mary Kay Latourneau. Or whatever her name is. She was really pretty. Yeah, she was. Uh, but, uh, you know, but if a male teacher. It is, it is a double standard. Yeah. Cause guys just want to score, you know. It's very true. You know, in this story of Mary Kay Latourneau, it's very true. It's very true. It's very true. You know, in this story of for that matter. What do they call her? Torn old? I don't know. You made your own. I made up a new name. You made like a Debbie, Debbie does Dallas kind of, right? That's what you made her into. But the thing is, really, it is a double standard and David is very right. When it comes to that specific story, it was really like, almost like a masturbation thing and everybody was like, oh, I wish my teacher was doing that. I wish I had sex with, yeah. And actually, they did, both of them as a couple, hosted evenings that were named Hot for Teacher. And yeah, when she was released from jail and everything. But the public saw it very badly. Very badly in terms of, of law wise because she, you know, literally raped a child, you know, molested or whatever they want to call it. But, but in terms of the, the view of it, they made movies into, of it. They made, there were books and everything. It was very sexy and, and kind of a fun talk conversations. But when you have a male, older male, hooking up with a younger woman, nobody looks at it in a fun way. Yeah. And I think that even when the, the female is not as young, like, let's, for instance, give the example of Woody Allen and his, and the girl who is not his girl and I don't, you know, it's not my place. His daughter? His biological daughter? She's not his biological daughter. No, I think, I think she's, I still think that's kind of gross. Are you sure? She's, yes, she's Asian. Yeah. She's, yes, and she's, she was not even his, she was Mia Farrow's daughter in general, adopted daughter. But I just, and it's not my place to say if I condone it or I condemn it, but I, I will say this, that everybody was against it and everybody was for, like, supporting Mia Farrow when it happened and I'm giving this example because it's a well-known story. Mm-hmm. And the woman, Sue, I don't remember her exact name, Sue Nee. Sue Nee. Yeah. She was 20, I think. Sue Nee Previn. Yeah, Previn. Yeah, she was from Mia Farrow's marriage to the previous husband. But the thing is, she was 20. She wasn't a child. She wasn't underage. Mm-hmm. And still, he was the, and I'm not, you know, again, I'm not saying, he was still the dirty old man. Nobody was saying, oh, what a great fuck. Right. No, but I'm telling you, I mean, this has been in the news. Yes. His biological daughter named Dylan. Dylan, yeah. She has accused him of molesting her when she was like eight or something. she accused him of being the bad father. I don't know about molesting, but she was, I think it was, the whole idea was that everybody was against that duo, that diet of her, of Woody Allen and that girl. It's so hard for me because this guy, Woody Allen, is like, he's made some of the best comedies I've seen in my life. Yes, yes. You know, and. I think, I think you take a lot from his neurotic tendency. I don't know, maybe. That's a compliment. I love Woody Allen as a comedian. I had a picture of him on my wall and I took it down because I just. You were upset. I was, yeah, I mean, look, it's a kind of a he said, she said kind of a deal. Nobody knows what happened exactly. In terms of Dylan or in terms of. With Dylan. Okay. She said something happened up in the attic and I don't know. I tend. I'm talking about the whole idea. Of hooking up with a younger woman. The man in this equation will always be looked as the dirty old man. But once a teacher and this didn't happen once in the States. I can think of at least five situations where a teacher was having a relationship with a student with a male student, a female teacher with a male student. A few times, all of them gorgeous, beautiful blondes. I always remember they were all like these gorgeous like you know, Kelly, a Christie Brinkley kind of look. The more kind of looking chick. They were really like hot women and everybody was like so excited and making such a porno out of it. You know, and this is really what does it say about us as society? I mean, is this acceptable because the boy is a boy? Just gender wise? Well, I think this supposition is that males like if you're getting laid when you're 13, you should be grateful. You know, just be happy that someone got in your pants. Yeah, it's like so. Yeah, it's like it's like, why would you tell your parents? I mean, you've got a good thing going on, you know, maybe she pissed him off or something. And he's like, all right, well, I know I can fucking get how to get back at you. So he went back and told his parents. No, she got pregnant. Oh, that's why. He's like, oh, Mama, she got pregnant. And that's why. I mean, that was the thing. But the troublesome thing is, that society looks at it one way. And then, you know, law wise, it was completely wrong, but everybody was masturbating about this thing, right? As a as a society, we're like really screwed. Fucked up. Tell me more about your experience, honey. What experiences do you want? Sexual. Sexual. Whatever you want to share. Well, I mean, I have. How did you get to found that beautiful show of yours? That actually came about about eight years ago. I've been doing this for eight years. Actually, it started off as a Halloween show. One Halloween. I decided to get like a bunch of my, you know, friends, radio host friends together, and we did a Halloween show and I called it Dilley's Tales from the Dark Side. Just that one time. Yes. And then it wasn't really about like sex or whatever. We couldn't because for this particular radio station, it was all censored. Right. So you can't say fuck or pussy. No, you can't. None of that. You know, you get fined. On this show, we have to say that, right? We have to. We're first into it. So it started off like more gothic because I was doing tarot cards and, you know, we had a Ouija board, you know, we call up spirits and stuff. I'm into that too. And you actually did that? Yeah. Yeah. It started off like that. And then I decided I was like, hey, you know, I should change my show because I was actually just doing a regular like music show. Yes. At that point. And I was like, you know, this is more of my speed. I was talking with my friends and he was like, yeah, you know, that's more your speed. You know, you more of the gothic. Why don't you just do that? And then my husband and I were talking. He was like, maybe won't you call it Delia's Dark Side? I love that. So, yeah, for that, for that station, it was just, you know, I would talk about like different serial killers, you know, and just like, you know, we would like make it funny, though. Yeah, that's what my show is about. It's about talking about different shit like that and making it fucking funny, you know, making fun of it. It's not about like getting serious about it and like, oh, you know, I did this. Yeah, you know, it's like I like to talk about these fetishes and make make it funny, right? I think like necrophilia is the funniest fucking thing. Look at David. He's like in his places like this. It's just like when my father told me about this, I was like, wow, this is like the funniest shit ever. Yeah. So, yeah. And then once I got to another radio station, it was more like, you know, you can do more. So I was I remember telling the story about like it was actually a fiction story. Yeah. But it was about like this girl, this zombie raping this fucking girl. And he was like talking about the cold, wet dick. And like it was just like weird. And I got a lot of, you know, people to be cold. Yeah, it was cold and like just it's like an ice pick. Yeah, his sloppy, wet tongue and her seething vagina and all this shit. And, you know, people loved it. So I was like, you know, and then I just like started get opening up more. Yeah. Talking about like more sexual things and, you know, necrophilia. I would read like stories and stuff like that. And that's how that and I just fucking think that that's the funniest like that's the worst fetish. That's the funniest fetish in the world to me is necrophilia. Because then people you find what I find interesting and you tell me and I want to hear David's opinion about it. But what I find interesting is that on one hand, it's fascinating and people, a lot of people find it very intriguing and interesting. But on the other hand, it's so taboo. Yeah. That most people will not even admit that they take any interest in it. And that's that's correct. When you come across this talking to people about that. Yeah, that's what I said. I rocked at the taboo on the taboo hotline because it's just I don't know that just kind of it's shakes your world. Yeah, it turned me a certain things turned me on. Like, I'm not going to lie. When I got the calls about the incest of I I did get a little turned on. Not that not that I want to do that, but just like certain stories like, you know, it makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense. And then, you know, I was able to get into the character. More and most of them didn't even want you to do character. They just wanted to talk about it. Yeah. Which was really intriguing for me. Right. So I'm sure you were acing it. Yeah. You're probably. Yeah, I brought home some good checks. What were you going to say? I can tell a quick joke. There was a comic dirty comic named B.S. Pulley, and he had a joke about this guy's taken to court and he's accused of raping a corpse. OK. And and he says, and he goes, let me say first, first of all, it was just not a stranger. It was my wife. And he's got this gravelly voice. He goes, I didn't know the difference. She's anyway laying there. Not moving. I was already dead and cold anyways. I believe she was already dead and cold. I love that. No, but seriously, it is interesting. And I feel that. And this is how I'm going to sum up our show. Before I allow you to please tell our listeners when they can find your show and how to listen to it. But in general, I think that with most fetishes and I kind of mentioned on your show that a fetish is something kind of common and very, very acceptable as long as it doesn't turn into a paraphilia, which is a mental condition. And then you have to be bothersome by it and be maybe treated, you know, with other take into other factors into mind. But the thing is, most people find a lot of things arousing, including what you said about incest or whatever. It is, but they're not going to socially admit it because it's no so unacceptable that they're going to feel even, you know, within themselves subconsciously. They're going to, oh, I can't believe that I'm aroused by this. OK, so that's mainly I believe that's mainly the reason why most people just not admit to their interest in different taboo topics. But please tell our listeners how they can catch your wonderful show. Well, I also have a podcast. It's Delia's Dark Side Radio Show dot com. You can go there and listen to my archive show. I have an archive show with Dead Men's Party, the group that we were talking about with Richard Elfman earlier. Thanks again, Richard, for calling in. That was awesome. And also you can listen to my show here at Skid Row Studios. I'm on Sundays at four to five p.m. right before our show. Yeah, please, everybody tune in. And it was such a pleasure having you. It was a pleasure having you on my show as well. It rocks. Thank you, honey. Thank you. I'll be happy to do it again. And Dave, nice meeting you, Delia. Thank you so much. Thank you. And thank you, everybody, for listening. I'm Dr. Limor Blockman, and I'll see you next time. Peace out.